CSPAN — LIVE Washington Journal 20260812 110000 UTC 3062 transcript segments Original Broadcaster Captioning Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:42] HOST: TODAY IS WEDNESDAY, AUGUST [00:00:46] 12. THE SHOCKING WIN IN THE WISCONSIN DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY [00:00:50] RACE FOR GOVERNOR. [00:00:55] A 14 TERM INCUMBENT OUSTED FOR A YOUNGER CANDIDATE IN CONNECTICUT [00:00:59] AND A MIXED RESULT FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP'S ENDORSEMENTS. [00:01:02] THESE ARE THE RESULTS OF ANOTHER [00:01:05] MAJOR PRIMARY NIGHT IN AMERICA AFTER A HALF DOZEN STATES POLLS [00:01:09] CLOSED LAST NIGHT. FROM NOW WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU. [00:01:13] WHAT ARE YOUR MAIN MOTIVATORS WHEN IT COMES TO VOTING IN THE [00:01:17] MIDTERM ELECTIONS THIS NOVEMBER. HERE IS HOW YOU JOIN THE CONVERSATION. [00:01:21] REPUBLICANS, YOUR LINE, [00:01:22] 202-748-8001. [00:01:26] DEMOCRATS, YOUR LINE, 202-748-8000. [00:01:30] INDEPENDENTS, YOUR LINE, 202-748-8002. YOU CAN REACH US BY TEXT AT [00:01:34] 202-748-8003. [00:01:39] INCLUDE YOUR FIRST NAME, CITY AND STATE AND YOU CAN FIND US ON [00:01:43] SOCIAL MEDIA. [00:01:45] OUR FACEBOOK IS FACEBOOK GOT -- [00:01:48] FACEBOOK.COM/C-SPAN. [00:01:52] IT'S THE MORNING AFTER ANOTHER INTERESTING PRIMARY NIGHT IN [00:01:56] AMERICA WERE DEMOCRATS FACED [00:01:59] QUESTIONS ON AGE, ESTABLISHMENT VERSUS PROGRESSIVE, IMMIGRATION, [00:02:02] AND DONALD TRUMP'S ENDORSEMENT [00:02:05] FOUND PERHAPS ITS LIMITS. HERE TO BREAK EVERYTHING DOWN [00:02:08] FOR US IS KIRK BETO, AUTHOR OF [00:02:13] NEWSLETTER HOTLINE. THANKS FOR BEING WITH US THIS MORNING. [00:02:15] GUEST: HAPPY TO BE HERE, WHAT A BUFFET OF OPTIONS TO TALK ABOUT [00:02:19] TODAY. HOST: I COULD HAVE YOU ON HERE [00:02:23] FOR SIX HOURS TO BREAK DOWN THE RESULTS. LET'S START WITH WISCONSIN, ONE [00:02:27] OF THE SIX STATES THAT HELD THEIR PRIMARY ELECTION LAST [00:02:30] NIGHT. [00:02:33] WISCONSIN LEFTIST CANDIDATES [00:02:36] WERE LOOKING FOR A BIG WIN AND IN WISCONSIN THOUGH THAT DID NOT [00:02:40] QUITE HAPPEN. BREAK IT DOWN FOR US. [00:02:41] GUEST: THIS RACE WITH TONY [00:02:48] DEVERS WHO DECIDE NOT TO SEEK A NEXT TERM WAS AN ABSOLUTE MESS [00:02:52] ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE. YOU WOULD CANDIDATES DROPPING OUT AND COMING BACK IN, A [00:02:56] CANDIDATE WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE FRONT RUNNER ENDED UP [00:03:00] DROPPING OUT BECAUSE HER FINANCES WEREN'T IN ORDER. THIS WAS A REAL MESS ESPECIALLY [00:03:04] ON THE MODERATE SIDE. FRANCESCA HOME WHO A VERY [00:03:08] PROGRESSIVE LAWMAKER SHE WAS THE FAVORITE GOING IN. [00:03:12] ALMOST EVERY SINGLE PUBLIC POLL [00:03:14] HAD LEADING BY AT LEAST FIVE [00:03:17] POINTS. SOME AS MANY AS DOUBLE DIGITS WHICH SENT OFF MODERATES [00:03:20] SCRAMBLING TO TRY AND COALESCE [00:03:22] AROUND AN ALTERNATIVE. [00:03:26] FRANCESCA HUNG UP THE NOMINATION -- THERE WAS A LOT OF WORRIES ABOUT DEMOCRATS THAT SHE WOULD [00:03:30] PUT THE SEAT AND PLAY IN NOVEMBER TO REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT [00:03:34] REPUBLICAN REPRESENTATIVE TOM TIFFANY. [00:03:38] EVERY PUBLIC POLLING SAID GOING INTO LAST NIGHT HAD FRENCH IS [00:03:42] GONE WINNING PRETTY COMFORTABLY EVEN AS NATIONAL PROGRESSIVES [00:03:46] LIKE AOC, BERNIE SANDERS KEPT HER AT A DISTANCE BECAUSE IT [00:03:50] DIDN'T SEEM SHE WAS QUITE READY FOR PRIME TIME. [00:03:52] WHEN POLLS CLOSED WE SOUGHT MUCH [00:03:56] CLOSER THAN EXPECTED RACE WITH [00:03:57] MODERATE DAVID CROWLEY, HE GOT [00:04:02] TONY DEVERS ENDORSE. DOING REALLY WELL EARLY THIS [00:04:05] MORNING THE AP CALLED THE RACE [00:04:07] FOR HIM. IT IS STILL WITHIN LESS THAN A [00:04:10] POINT. I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF FRANCESCA HUNG DOESN'T SUGGEST [00:04:14] AFTER A RECOUNT. THIS IS A HUGE LOSS FOR THE PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT AND A HUGE [00:04:18] WIN FOR THE MORE ESTABLISHMENT MODERATE WING OF THE PARTY WHICH [00:04:22] IS BEEN BEAT UP SO MUCH IN RECENT PRIMARIES. HOST: A CONVERSATION THAT WAS [00:04:26] HAPPENING WHETHER OR NOT THE ESTABLISHMENT COULD STILL WIN. [00:04:28] HERE THEY WILL USE THIS AS A [00:04:31] DATA POINT SAYING THAT THEY CAN. YOU MENTIONED IT BRIEFLY BUT I [00:04:35] WANT TO ASK WHAT HAPPENED ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE? GUEST: THE REPUBLICAN SIDE WAS [00:04:39] TOM TIFFANY FROM BUZZER TO BUZZER HERE. [00:04:43] HE DIDN'T FACE ANY REAL COMPETITION. HE JUMPED IN EARLY ON. [00:04:47] AND HAS BEEN BASICALLY RUNNING A GENERAL ELECTION FROM THE JUMP. [00:04:51] HE'S BEEN DOING ADS ABOUT HOW HE [00:04:54] IS THE MORE CENTRIST CANDIDATE. THAT HE'S THE ONE WHO'S TALKING [00:04:58] ABOUT AFFORDABILITY. DAVE CRAWLEY IS A MUCH BETTER [00:05:02] GENERAL ELECTION CANDIDATE THAN FRANCESCA HONG BUT THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE A CAKEWALK FOR [00:05:06] DEMOCRATS IN WISCONSIN. [00:05:08] IT'S A SWING STATE IT WENT [00:05:11] TOWARD PRESIDENT TRUMP AFTER BIDEN CARRIED IT IN 2020. [00:05:14] THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A [00:05:16] SLAMDUNK JUST BECAUSE OF [00:05:19] AGGRESSIVE DIDN'T WIN. THIS WILL BE A DRAGGING OUT RACE [00:05:22] IN NOVEMBER. >> I WANT TO COME BACK TO THIS [00:05:25] QUESTION OF POLLS BUT LET'S MOVE OVER TO MINNESOTA. [00:05:29] GUEST: IT'S ALL BIG TENT COUNTRIES. [00:05:33] HOST: I'M FROM THE MIDWEST. [00:05:37] THIS AGAIN WE SAW A PROGRESSIVE CANDIDATE FACING OFF AGAINST A [00:05:41] MORE ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATE AND HEAR THE ISSUE WAS ON [00:05:45] IMMIGRATION. BREAK DOWN SPECIFICALLY WHAT HAPPENED? [00:05:47] HOST: IN THE DEMOCRAT -- GUEST: [00:05:51] IN THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY THAT [00:05:52] WAS AGAINST PENNY FLANAGAN AND [00:05:57] REPRESENTATIVE ANGIE WHO WAS REPRESENTING A SWING DISTRICT IN THE MINNEAPOLIS AREA. [00:06:01] SHE WAS A MORE MODERATE LANE. NOW WHOEVER COMES OUT OF THIS [00:06:05] PRIMARY GOING INTO THIS IS GOING TO BE THE FAVORITE ON THE [00:06:09] DEMOCRATIC SIDE REPUBLICANS NOMINATED A FORMER SPORTS [00:06:13] BROADCASTER. [00:06:15] PEGGY FLANAGAN FEEDS ON VOTERS [00:06:21] ANGER IN MINNESOTA OVER OPERATION METRO SURGE. YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER EARLIER [00:06:25] THIS YEAR THIS WAS GROUND ZERO [00:06:28] FOR TRUMP'S ENHANCED DEPORTATION MANDATE. [00:06:31] IT REALLY FIRED UP VOTERS. YOU AFTER MEMBER THOSE IMAGES OF [00:06:35] FEDERAL ICE AGENTS, PASSION -- [00:06:39] CLASHING WITH PROTESTERS IN THE STREET. WE SAW ACTIVISTS DIE AT THE [00:06:43] HANDS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT THERE. [00:06:48] THOSE DEEP SCARS THAT ARE STILL [00:06:51] FRESH FOR VOTERS WHO DO SODA. IT WAS THE BIG DIVIDING LINE. [00:06:55] PEGGY FLANAGAN RAN AS THE [00:06:58] ENFORCER AGAINST THE TRUMP [00:07:00] ADMINISTRATION WANTING TO END [00:07:03] SUPPORT FOR THE LAKEN RILEY ACT, [00:07:05] RESOLUTIONS AND LEGISLATION. [00:07:09] I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF WE [00:07:13] TALK AGAIN IN FEBRUARY THAT ITS [00:07:16] ANGIE CRAIG AND PEGGY FLANAGAN. [00:07:19] YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER AMY [00:07:21] KLOBUCHAR WALTZED INTO THE [00:07:24] DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION TO REPLACE TIM WALZ FOR GOVERNOR AND SHE'S [00:07:27] GOING TO BE ABLE TO PICK HER REPLACEMENT IN JANUARY. [00:07:30] I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF THE TOP CANDIDATE TO FILL THAT SPOT [00:07:33] WAS ANGIE CRAIG. [00:07:35] HOST: ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE, [00:07:39] DONALD TRUMP FACED SOMEWHAT OF A [00:07:41] LOSS IN THE MINNESOTA GOVERNOR'S [00:07:45] PRIMARY FOR REPUBLICANS. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT FOR A [00:07:49] SECOND? GUEST: REPUBLICANS WANTED TO [00:07:52] HAVE A PILLOW FIGHT IN THE GOVERNOR'S RACE AFTER [00:07:56] TRUMP-ENDORSED MIKE LINDELL THE FORMER CEO OF MYPILLOW IN ONE OF [00:08:00] THE LEAD ELECTION CONSPIRACY THEORISTS IN THE COUNTRY. [00:08:03] BUT HE CAME UP WAY SHORT HERE. [00:08:05] INSTEAD IT'S THE STATE HOUSE SPEAKER WHO DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THE [00:08:09] ENDORSEMENT OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IN MINNESOTA. [00:08:13] CAME OUT ON TOP. [00:08:17] THEY WILL HAVE A VERY DIFFICULT TIME IN MINNESOTA. [00:08:20] THIS IS A RACE WHERE TIM WALZ [00:08:23] DROPPED HIS REELECTION BID AFTER [00:08:26] -- THERE WAS A SCANDAL INVOLVING [00:08:29] MISAPPROPRIATION OF STATE FUNDS [00:08:31] AND FRAUD ALLEGATIONS TO THESE [00:08:34] CHARITY ORGANIZATIONS THAT WARRANT PROVIDING THE SERVICES [00:08:37] THEY WERE PROMISED. [00:08:39] THAT OPENED UP A LANE FOR REPUBLICANS. TIM WALZ WALKED AWAY AND AMY [00:08:43] KLOBUCHAR WALKED RIGHT IN TO THE NOMINATION. . [00:08:47] GUEST: HOST: ANOTHER RACE IN [00:08:52] WHICH DONALD TRUMP PLAYED HEAVILY WAS THE SENATE GOP RACE [00:08:54] IN SOUTH CAROLINA. [00:08:57] WE KNOW THAT IS HEADED TO A RUNOFF. I WONDER WHAT YOU MADE OF THAT [00:09:01] RACE AND DARLINE GRAHAM WHO TOOK [00:09:03] THE ROLE OF A CANDIDATE AFTER [00:09:06] HER BROTHER, THE LATE SENATOR [00:09:10] LINDSEY GRAHAM, PASSED AWAY EARLIER THIS SUMMER. [00:09:12] GUEST: I THINK WHAT WE ARE [00:09:15] SEEING HERE IS WE HAVE TWO WEEKS [00:09:18] SO THE RUNOFF IS GOING TO BE A REAL TEST FOR DARLENE. [00:09:22] SHE IS SOMEONE WHO IS NEVER RUN FOR OFFICE BEFORE. [00:09:25] HAS BEEN IN THE BACKGROUND SUPPORTING HER BROTHER. [00:09:29] AROUND HIM BUT NEVER REALLY IN THE SPOTLIGHT. [00:09:32] NOW THAT GLARE IS RIGHT ON HER. I THOUGHT WAS INTRUDING LAST [00:09:36] NIGHT WE KNEW WE WERE GOING TO PLAY FOR A RUNOFF HERE THE FIELD [00:09:39] WOULD BE LARGE. [00:09:43] NO ONE WAS GOING TO GET 50% PLUS ONE TO AVOID THAT. [00:09:46] RALPH NORMAN, WHO IS THE [00:09:51] LONGTIME REPRESENTATIVE FROM SOUTH CAROLINA CAME IN A CLOSE [00:09:55] SECOND. I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF WE ARE IN A SIMILAR SITUATION THAT [00:09:58] WE WERE EARLIER THE NORMALLY SCHEDULED SOUTH CAROLINA PRIMARY [00:10:02] WERE TRUMP-ENDORSED ONE [00:10:04] CANDIDATE IN THE GOVERNOR'S RACE . FINISHED FIRST IN THE REGULAR [00:10:08] PRIMARY BUT NOT ENOUGH TO AVOID A RUNOFF AND THEN WHEN THE [00:10:10] MOMENTUM SHIFTED, TRUMP DECIDED [00:10:13] TO SPLIT HIS ENDORSEMENT. [00:10:20] I SEE A SCENARIO HERE WHERE IF DARLINE GRAHAM DOESN'T START [00:10:23] PULLING AHEAD A LITTLE BIT MORE [00:10:25] IN THE POLLS SHE STRUGGLES TO [00:10:29] CAPITALIZE ON THIS THE TRUMP MIGHT CONSIDER ENDORSING RALPH [00:10:32] NORMAN WHICH WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTING BECAUSE RALPH NORMAN [00:10:35] WAS ONE OF THE FIRST REPUBLICANS [00:10:37] TO ENDORSE NIKKI HALEY'S [00:10:41] PRESIDENTIAL BID IN 2024. SO IT WILL TAKE A LOT FOR RALPH [00:10:45] NORMAN TO GET THAT TRUMP BUMP. [00:10:47] BUT I THINK IT MIGHT BE ON THE TABLE AFTER A [00:10:51] STRONGER-THAN-EXPECTED SHOWING [00:10:52] LAST NIGHT. HOST: I AM A REAL PURVEYOR OF [00:10:57] YOUR NEWSLETTER WHERE YOU TALK ABOUT POLLS. [00:11:00] TALK TO US ABOUT THE STATE OF POLLING RIGHT NOW, MINNESOTA THE [00:11:04] POLLS HAD FRANCESCA HONG WAY AHEAD OF DAVID CROWLEY. [00:11:07] IN MICHIGAN LAST WEEK INTERNAL [00:11:09] POLLS HAD ABDUL EL-SAYED WAY [00:11:14] AHEAD OF HALEY STEVENS AND HE EKED OUT A SMALL WIN. WHAT SHOULD AMERICANS THINK [00:11:18] ABOUT THE STATE OF POLLING WHEN IT COMES TO THESE RACES ACROSS [00:11:22] THE COUNTRY? GUEST: I DON'T WANT TO THROW THE [00:11:26] BABY OUT WITH THE BATHWATER HERE AND SAY ALL POLLING IS BAD. [00:11:29] I WILL SAY THIS SPECIFIC POLLING [00:11:31] IN DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES HAS BEEN REALLY TOUGH THIS CYCLE. [00:11:35] THAT'S BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN A [00:11:38] SURGE OF ENTHUSIASM FROM THE DEMOCRATIC BASE PULSE OR SMART [00:11:42] ACCOUNTING FOR. FRANCESCA HONG LAST NIGHT GOT [00:11:47] ABOUT 300,000 VOTES OR SO AND ALMOST EVERY OTHER DEMOCRATIC [00:11:51] GUBERNATORIAL PRIMARY IN RECENT HISTORY THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH FOR [00:11:53] HER TO WIN. SHE WILL PROBABLY COME IN A [00:11:57] CLOSE SECOND YEAR. THIS IS A SURGE OF ENTHUSIASM IN [00:12:00] THE DEMOCRATIC RACES THAT POLLSTERS ARE NOT ACCOUNTING [00:12:03] FOR. SO LOOKING AHEAD TO SOME OF [00:12:06] THESE BIG PRIMARIES WE HAVE COMING UP LIKE IN FLORIDA FOR [00:12:09] EXAMPLE, I WILL BE TRYING TO PAY [00:12:11] ATTENTION TO SEE HOW AFTER THE [00:12:15] DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY POLLING IS AND AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE GENERAL ELECTION THAT'S A BIT [00:12:18] MORE KNOWN. [00:12:22] SO I WILL PUT MORE EGGS IN THE BASKET FOR GENERAL ELECTION [00:12:26] POLLING. BUT YOU ARE RIGHT THAT THE STATE [00:12:30] OF DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY POLLING RIGHT NOW IS A MESS. [00:12:33] HOST: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR [00:12:37] BEING WITH US THIS MORNING. GUEST: THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. [00:12:41] HOST: LET'S TURN TO SOME PHONE CALLS. [00:12:45] WHAT IS MOTIVATING YOUR 2026 [00:12:48] MIDTERM ELECTION VOTE. LESTER FROM ALABAMA, DEMOCRAT. [00:12:52] CALLER: GOOD MORNING, HOW ARE YOU. [00:12:55] HOST: I'M DOING WELL, HOW ARE YOU. [00:12:58] CALLER: THIS THING THAT'S BEEN [00:13:01] GOING ON IN THIS COUNTRY SINCE [00:13:03] TRUMP CAME IN OFFICE, IT'S TIME [00:13:09] TO SEND THESE REPUBLICANS HOME AND LET THEM LEARN HOW TO RUN [00:13:13] THE UNITED STATES. [00:13:17] WE HAVE EVERYTHING THIS COUNTRY [00:13:19] SINCE 1946. [00:13:23] IT IS UNACCEPTABLE FOR REPUBLICANS TO SIT IN CONGRESS [00:13:27] WHO DON'T DO ANYTHING. [00:13:29] LET TRUMP SIGN EXECUTIVE ORDERS. [00:13:33] ALL DAY LONG. THAT IS NOT HOW YOU RUN THE [00:13:37] SENATE AND THE CONGRESS IS [00:13:40] SUPPOSED TO SIGN THOSE BILLS PAID TRUMP SHOULD NOT BE ABLE OR [00:13:44] ALLOWED TO DO THINGS HIS WAY. [00:13:47] JUST VOTE BLEW ACROSS THE [00:13:50] COUNTRY AND WE WILL HAVE A BETTER AMERICA TOMORROW. [00:13:53] HAVE A GREAT DAY. HOST: DAN FROM NEW YORK, A [00:13:57] REPUBLICAN. GOOD MORNING. CALLER: GOOD MORNING, HOW ARE [00:14:01] YOU. [00:14:05] I JUST WANT TO MAKE AN [00:14:07] OBSERVATION. I'M A CHRISTIAN MAN I AM A [00:14:10] REPUBLICAN. BUT DO YOU REALIZE SOMETHING DOES ANYBODY REALIZE SOMETHING [00:14:13] THAT ALL THE CRAZY WACKY IDEAS [00:14:16] COME FROM THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. AND NOT TO GIVE -- NOT THE [00:14:20] REPUBLICAN'S ARE PERFECT, BUT [00:14:23] THEY THEY HAVE -- THEY HAVE A [00:14:25] TENDENCY TO WANT TO SAY YOU KNOW [00:14:29] FAMILY, GOD, COUNTRY AND THE DEMOCRATS THE TRANSGENDER ALL [00:14:32] THE OTHER STUFF THIS IS COMING [00:14:36] -- IN MY OPINION IT'S COMING FROM THE DEVIL I WILL TELL YOU [00:14:38] THE TRUTH. HOST: LET ME REDIRECT YOU TO THE QUESTION WHICH IS WHAT WILL BE [00:14:42] MOTIVATING YOUR VOTE THIS MIDTERM ELECTION. CALLER: THESE VERY THINGS I'M [00:14:46] SPEAKING ABOUT. [00:14:49] I MEAN THAT -- FIRST TO LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. LET ME NOT ASK YOU A QUESTION. [00:14:53] BUT THE PUBLIC. YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT CAME OK [00:14:57] LIKE LET'S SAY IN MINNESOTA THEY [00:15:00] COME FROM SOMALIA EVERYTHING AND NOTHING GETS DONE AS FAR AS [00:15:04] GETTING THESE PEOPLE OUT SO WE CAN HAVE AN ELECTION THAT YOU [00:15:07] KNOW FREE AND WHATNOT AND IT [00:15:10] SEEMS CRAZY. [00:15:12] AND AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE DON'T SIT DOWN WITH [00:15:16] THEMSELVES AND THINK ABOUT -- THEY DON'T HAVE TO VOTE [00:15:20] REPUBLICAN THEY CAN VOTE INDEPENDENT. BUT I'M SAYING YOU LOOK AT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS GONE WAY TO [00:15:24] THE LEFT. [00:15:28] THEY WOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF DECENCY TO SAY THEY ARE RUINING [00:15:32] OUR COUNTRY AND YET WHAT -- [00:15:36] THESE PEOPLE THINK THIS WAY, WHAT WE DO. [00:15:40] YOU KNOW I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT ON THAT. [00:15:42] AND I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT C-SPAN. [00:15:45] SOMETIMES I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE PRESSED FOR TIME BUT SOMETIMES A [00:15:49] PERSON IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE QUESTION AND ONE OF THE [00:15:52] MODERATORS WILL SAY OK, I GET [00:15:57] YOUR POINT AND I'VE GOT AGO. DOESN'T THAT DISCOURAGE THEM [00:16:01] FROM CALLING C-SPAN? THAT'S JUST MY QUESTION. HOST: DAN FROM NEW YORK A [00:16:05] REPUBLICAN. FROM OHIO, A DEMOCRAT GOOD [00:16:09] MORNING TOM. [00:16:10] CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [00:16:15] I AM ALMOST 91 YEARS OLD. [00:16:18] I DON'T THINK THERE WILL BE ANY [00:16:21] ELECTIONS IN 2028. BECAUSE THE IDIOT IN WASHINGTON [00:16:25] IS GOING TO SEE TO IT THAT THERE IS NO ELECTIONS. [00:16:29] IT'S JUST A SHAME. THAT WE LET OUR COUNTRY GET TO [00:16:33] WHERE IT IS WITH THAT BIMBO IN [00:16:37] WASHINGTON AND HIS WARS ARE. [00:16:40] IT'S GOING TO BREAK. HOST: I'M TO DO THE SAME FOR YOU [00:16:44] AS I DID FOR DAN BEFORE YOU WHICH IS REDIRECTED TO THE QUESTION THIS MORNING. [00:16:48] LAY OUT WHAT THE MOTIVATING YOUR VOTE IS A 91-YEAR-OLD IN THIS [00:16:52] COUNTRY IN THIS MIDTERM [00:16:53] ELECTION. CALLER: I WON'T BE VOTING. [00:16:58] HOST: YOU WON'T BE VOTING IN THE [00:17:01] CALLER: MIDTERMS. I WON'T BE VOTING IN ANY. [00:17:04] HOST: WHY IS THAT? [00:17:06] >> IT SEEMS LIKE ALL WE GET IS [00:17:11] CROAKS, POLITICIANS, CROOKS AND [00:17:14] LOBBYISTS WHO -- WHO LINE [00:17:16] POLITICIANS POCKETS. THAT CREATES AS I SAY I'M JUST [00:17:21] AN OLD DUMB 91-YEAR-OLD HILLBILLY. THANK YOU JASMINE. [00:17:25] HOST: HAMILTON FROM [00:17:30] PENNSYLVANIA, AND INDEPENDENT. [00:17:31] CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [00:17:38] LISTEN, IT IS ALL ABOUT THE WAR [00:17:41] AND THE ECONOMY FOR ME RIGHT NOW [00:17:44] BECAUSE YOU THINK ABOUT HOW [00:17:47] WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT SO MUCH OF OUR [00:17:51] ECONOMIC POWER TO THIS WAR THAT [00:17:55] A LOT OF US DIDN'T EVEN WANT IN THE FIRST PLACE. [00:17:58] AND NOW WE ARE STUCK AND WE ARE [00:18:01] STUCK WITH HIGH GAS PRICES. WE ARE STUCK WITH HIGH FOOD [00:18:04] PRICES AND FOR ME, THIS ECONOMY [00:18:08] IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE BUT IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. [00:18:11] AND WE HAVE TO MAKE THEM DIRECTION -- A DIRECTION TO GO [00:18:15] FORWARD. [00:18:18] BUT WE'VE GOT TO GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION OF WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT [00:18:22] NOW. THAT'S MY COMMENT. [00:18:23] >> AMBLED IN FROM PENNSYLVANIA. [00:18:27] AND INDEPENDENT. DON FROM CONNECTICUT A REPUBLICAN. [00:18:31] JOHN, YOUR STATE VOTED LAST NIGHT. [00:18:35] I WONDER IF YOU VOTED AND IF YOU [00:18:36] DID WHAT IS MOTIVATING >> >> [00:18:42] YOUR VOTE. I DID NOT VOTE, I'M A REPUBLICAN. HOST: WAS JUST THE DEMOCRATIC VOTING LAST NIGHT? [00:18:46] CALLER: JUST THE DEMOCRATS IN [00:18:50] OUR PART OF CONNECTICUT WAS HOLDING PRIMARIES FOR THAT AREA. [00:18:54] SO NO I'M NOT VOTING FOR IT AND IT WOULDN'T VOTE FOR LAMONT [00:18:57] AGAIN. HE NEEDS TO GO. [00:19:00] TOO MANY YEARS OF HIS CORRUPTION [00:19:02] AND OUR STATE IS THE HIGHEST [00:19:07] TAXED EVERYTHING ELSE IN THIS COUNTRY. ONE THING I WANT TO GET BACK TO [00:19:11] BEFORE YOU HANG UP ON ME, ON A [00:19:16] SUNDAY WHEN KIMBERLY WAS [00:19:18] TALKING, SOMEONE WAS SUPPOSEDLY DENIGRATING A GENERAL AND EVERY [00:19:22] DAY ON YOUR SHOW FOR THREE [00:19:25] HOURS, I HEAR MORE DENIGRATION OF DONALD J. TRUMP THAN ANYONE. [00:19:28] AGAIN A GENTLEMAN, PROBABLY A [00:19:33] NICE ELDERLY GENTLEMAN JUST CALLED OUR PRESIDENT AN IDIOT AND YOU SAY NOTHING. [00:19:36] YOU SAY NOTHING ALL THE TIME. AND IT'S GETTING TO THE POINT [00:19:40] WHERE IT'S -- YOU GUYS ARE OUT [00:19:43] OF HAND AND SOMEONE MADE A [00:19:45] COMMENT LAST WEEK ABOUT YOUR [00:19:48] C-SPAN IS GETTING LIKE CNN, MS NOW AND THE VIEW. [00:19:52] BECAUSE ALL YOU PEOPLE DO IS INSULT OUR PRESIDENT. [00:19:55] HOST: CAN YOU DO ME A FAVOR AND MEET YOUR TV BEHIND YOU. [00:19:59] CALLER: I -- WHEN PRESIDENT [00:20:04] TRUMP AND PRESIDENT OBAMA WERE IN OFFICE I NEVER DID THAT ON [00:20:08] AIR TO ANY PRESIDENT. I WOULD NEVER DO THAT TO ANY [00:20:11] PRESIDENT KEEP IT TO YOURSELF. [00:20:13] BUT YOU PEOPLE EVERY DAY TO [00:20:16] ERROR THAT IN THE WAY YOUR CALLERS INSULT OUR PRESIDENT HE [00:20:20] IS DOING THE BEST HE CAN WITH WHAT HE HAS AND WHAT HE WAS [00:20:24] ELECTED. SO ALL I SAY IS I'M VOTING FOR [00:20:28] REPUBLICANS UNTIL THE DAY I DIE. [00:20:30] I WAS A DEMOCRAT I VOTED DEMOCRAT UP UNTIL HILLARY CLINTON RAN FOR PRESIDENT. [00:20:34] HOST: THAT'S 2016. [00:20:36] CALLER: CORRECT AND I DIDN'T [00:20:40] THINK SHE HAD THE THE CHUTZPAH TO DO, TO BE PRESIDENT AND [00:20:44] THAT'S IT. BUT FOR YOUR CALLERS TO EVERY [00:20:48] DAY THREE HOURS OF INSULTING OUR PRESIDENT AND HIS WHOLE CABINET [00:20:52] AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS TOTALLY DISGUSTING. TOTALLY DISGUSTING. [00:20:56] I MEAN I KNOW SOME DAY THERE WILL BE A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT [00:20:59] IN THERE AND GOD FOR BID WHAT HAPPENS BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT [00:21:03] GOES AROUND COMES AROUND AS THEY [00:21:04] SAY. HOST: I WOULD JUST SAY THAT BOTH [00:21:10] REPUBLICANS, INDEPENDENTS AND DEMOCRATS ON THE SHOW. [00:21:13] THE BEST PART OF THE SHOW IS WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY YOUR [00:21:17] THOUGHTS IN A RESPECTFUL MANNER. AT TIMES ONE SIDE MAY INSULT THE [00:21:21] OTHER AND AT TIMES ONE SIDE MAY INSULT THE OTHER SIDE. [00:21:25] BUT THE POINT IS THAT YOU GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AS [00:21:28] LONG AS IT IS WITHIN RESPECTFUL BOUNDS AND I WOULD SAY ACROSS [00:21:31] THE BOARD THOSE WHO CALL INTO [00:21:33] THE SHOW ARE MOSTLY RESPECTFUL [00:21:36] AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. MICHAEL, INDEPENDENT. [00:21:40] CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [00:21:47] WE HAVE A GOVERNOR WHO KEPT THE [00:21:50] STATE, YES THINGS ARE HIGH. [00:21:54] BUT BEFORE HE CAME TO THE [00:21:57] GOVERNOR WE WERE IN THE RED. [00:22:02] NOW, IF YOU LOOK WE HAVE A [00:22:04] PRESIDENT, WHO TRIED TO [00:22:09] OVERTHROW AN ELECTION, A [00:22:15] GOVERNMENT 2020. IT IS TIME FOR CHANGE. [00:22:18] >> LET ME ASK YOU BECAUSE YOU [00:22:23] CAN ASK YOU HOW YOU VOTED LAST NIGHT IF YOU VOTED IN THE PRIMARY. [00:22:27] >> I'M AN INDEPENDENT. [00:22:31] I DID NOT VOTE IN THE PRIMARY. THAT'S WHY I LIKE TO SEE [00:22:35] POLITICAL REFORM. [00:22:40] WE NEED MORE THAN ONE PARTY. [00:22:42] WE HAVE THE DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC. SOMETIMES YOU MIGHT NEED A THIRD [00:22:46] PARTY OR SOMEBODY, SOMETIMES YOU [00:22:51] DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. SOMETIMES THEY -- [00:22:53] HOST: WHO DO YOU PLAN TO SUPPORT [00:22:57] IN NOVEMBER IF I CAN ASK? CALLER: I'M DEFINITELY GOING TO [00:23:01] VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRATS BECAUSE [00:23:02] LIKE I SAID WE HAVE A GUY, [00:23:06] INFLATION IS TOO HIGH. WE ARE IN A WAR WE SHOULD NEVER [00:23:10] STARTED. [00:23:12] WE HAVE A COUNTRY THAT INTERFERE [00:23:15] IN OUR ELECTIONS ISRAEL AND HE'S [00:23:18] TALKING ABOUT CHINA. [00:23:21] LOOK AT THE MONEY WE SPENT ON THE CAMPAIGNS, IT'S OUTRAGEOUS. [00:23:25] HOST: WERE YOU SURPRISED THAT [00:23:29] REPRESENTATIVE LARSEN WAS OUSTED LAST NIGHT. [00:23:31] THE 78-YEAR-OLD INCUMBENT WAS [00:23:35] BEAT BY A 47 YEAR OLD HARTFORD MAYOR. [00:23:37] CALLER: LOSS 74. [00:23:43] YES IT'S A LOT OF MONEY BEHIND THAT. [00:23:45] WE SOMETIMES WONDER WHO IS [00:23:49] SPENDING ALL THIS MONEY. [00:23:51] WHEN SOMEBODY GIVES YOU MONEY, [00:23:56] IT'S LIKE MODERN SLAVERY. [00:23:59] YOU ARE NOT ABOVE A PERSON. [00:24:02] THEY OWN YOU. [00:24:05] THAT'S WHY I'D LIKE TO SEE [00:24:07] POLITICAL REFORM, LIMITING BIG [00:24:11] CORPORATE PACK MONEY, CORPORATIONS THAT THE SUPREME [00:24:13] COURT LET ATTEBERRY YOU NEED TO [00:24:18] DASHING THE CANDIDATE WHO CAN SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS. [00:24:22] HOST: FROM HARTFORD CONNECTICUT [00:24:27] WERE A BIG ELECTION HAPPENED LAST NIGHT. JOE FROM MICHIGAN, DEMOCRAT GOOD [00:24:31] MORNING. YOU HAD A BIG ELECTION LAST WEEK. I WONDER WHAT'S MOTIVATING YOUR [00:24:35] 2026 VOTE. CALLER: AFTER SEEING THE ECONOMY [00:24:37] LIKE IT IS, AMERICANS REALLY [00:24:41] KNOW WHAT'S GOING DOWN. [00:24:43] THEY REALIZE GAS PRICES ARE [00:24:46] GOING SKY HIGH. OIL IS GOING UP, GAS IS GOING [00:24:50] UP. HOST: GO AHEAD. [00:24:54] CALLER: AMERICANS HAVE ENOUGH [00:24:59] SENSE TO KNOW IT PEOPLE ARE [00:25:03] CALLING THE PRESIDENT NAMES. [00:25:05] THE PRESIDENT STARTED THIS MESS. [00:25:09] WHAT PRESIDENT AND THE RIGHT [00:25:12] MIND GOES ON TV AND CUSSES FOLKS OUT AND CALLS THEM NAMES, [00:25:16] ESPECIALLY WOMEN. [00:25:21] 47 YEARS AGO, DUTCH [00:25:24] HOST: MASK HOW YOU VOTED LAST WEEK. [00:25:28] CALLER: I WAS LIKE I NEVER VOTED [00:25:38] FOR THIS GUY BUT I LISTENED TO HIM AND HE SOUNDS BETTER. [00:25:42] HE HAS MORE AMERICAN VALUES. [00:25:43] HOST: ABDUL EL-SAYED. [00:25:47] CALLER: PEOPLE PAY ATTENTION, [00:25:51] LIKE THIS MAN IS MORE AMERICAN OF THE PRESIDENT. [00:25:55] KNEES AND TAKE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WITH THEM. AND IF YOU DON'T HE'S GOING TO [00:25:59] TAKE OVER. THIS BOY IS ALREADY TALKING [00:26:03] ABOUT RUNNING THE COUNTRY. [00:26:08] HE'S DONE NOTHING ILLEGAL STUFF [00:26:10] HE IS 30 SOMETHING BILLION. THE RIGHT PEOPLE UNITED STATES [00:26:14] OF AMERICA KNOW THIS MAN IS A CONVICTED FELON AND DON'T NEED HIM IN THE COUNTRY EITHER. [00:26:17] HOST: CARL FROM GEORGIA, [00:26:20] REPUBLICAN. GOOD MORNING. [00:26:22] CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [00:26:30] THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. [00:26:32] WHAT'S MOTIVATING MY VOTE IS JUST TRYING TO BRING SOME DEGREE [00:26:36] OF NORMALCY BACK TO OUR COUNTRY [00:26:42] BECAUSE IT IS JUST UNFORTUNATE THAT REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS [00:26:46] ARE FIGHTING AGAINST EACH OTHER AND THE CITIZENS OF THIS GREAT [00:26:50] COUNTRY ARE CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE [00:26:53] AND WITH A MORAL DECLINE AND DECAY OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF [00:26:57] WHICH I USED TO BE A PART OF I HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE BUT TO [00:27:00] SWITCH AND TRY TO PRAY FOR ALL [00:27:02] OF THEM. [00:27:05] HOST: GEORGIA HAS SOME BIG [00:27:09] ELECTIONS COMING UP IN NOVEMBER. [00:27:12] ALSO A BIG GOVERNOR'S RACE HAPPENING. I WONDER DO YOU KNOW HOW TO PLAN [00:27:16] TO VOTE IN NOVEMBER. [00:27:19] HOST: I AM STILL UNDECIDED AT [00:27:23] THIS POINT. I REALLY WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT [00:27:26] THE TRUE ISSUES OF THE CANDIDATES ARE. [00:27:30] I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ALL [00:27:32] VOTERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DO [00:27:35] THEIR RESEARCH AND NOT JUST VOTE BY PARTY. [00:27:39] I VOTE MAINLY REPUBLICAN NOW [00:27:42] BECAUSE I WAS I BEFORE STATE OF THE MORAL DECAY OF THE [00:27:45] DEMOCRATIC PARTY BUT AT THE SAME [00:27:48] TIME I'M ALWAYS OPEN TO LISTENING AND LEARNING ABOUT THE [00:27:53] CANDIDATES THEMSELVES AND IF THAT CANDIDATE BELIEVES IN A CERTAIN THING THAT WHEN MY [00:27:57] BELIEF IS AS A VOTER THEN I JUST CAN'T SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE THAT [00:28:01] LET'S ME KNOW ONCE THEY GET AN OFFICE THEY ARE GOING TO SUPPORT [00:28:05] WHATEVER IT IS THEIR PARTY SUPPORTS. [00:28:08] WHAT I BELIEVE IN REGARDLESS OF WHAT FAMILY SAYS OR FRIENDS SAY [00:28:12] OR WHOEVER, I WANT TO VOTE MY [00:28:15] CONVICTIONS AND WHAT I BELIEVE IS RIGHT FOR OUR STATE AND OUR COUNTRY. [00:28:19] HOST: MIKE FROM CALIFORNIA, [00:28:24] INDEPENDENT. GOOD MORNING. [00:28:27] CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [00:28:35] TO THAT GENTLEMAN WHO CALLED IN TO COMPLAIN ABOUT PEOPLE TALKING [00:28:38] ABOUT DONALD TRUMP AND NOT [00:28:40] CALLING IN THE PRESIDENT, THE [00:28:45] REPUBLICANS TREATED THE DEMOCRATS WHEN BARACK OBAMA WAS [00:28:48] PRESIDENT AND MITCH MCCONNELL [00:28:50] SAID HE CALLED IN THE GRIM [00:28:53] REAPER AND WAS GOING TO MAKE IN [00:28:55] A ONE TERM PRESIDENT AND ALL THE [00:28:58] EVERYTHING BARACK OBAMA DID. [00:29:00] DONALD TRUMP INC. IT'S THE [00:29:04] OPPOSITE. ANYTHING HE WANTS. [00:29:07] TALKED ABOUT HANDICAPPED PEOPLE. [00:29:10] CALLS EVERYBODY A NAME. THE REPUBLICANS HAVE A LOT OF [00:29:14] NERVE TO EVEN GET ON THEIR TALKING LIKE THAT. [00:29:18] I MEAN IT IS INCREDIBLE. [00:29:21] WHAT MOTIVATES ME TO VOTE. I CALLED IN C-SPAN A COUPLE [00:29:24] MINUTES AGO AND YOU HAD A [00:29:26] CONGRESSMAN THERE AND I SAID [00:29:29] WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL ABOUT D.E.I. [00:29:31] AND HE SAID LITERALLY THE UNITED [00:29:35] STATES CONGRESSMAN SAID WHAT [00:29:37] D.E.I. DOES IT ELEVATE -- [00:29:45] MEDIOCRE WHITE PEOPLE. AND I'M GOING I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO RESPOND. [00:29:49] HE SAID IT MAKES THEM FEEL MARGINALIZED. WHERE THEY HAVE TO GIVE [00:29:53] SOMETHING UP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. [00:29:55] AND THE POINT IS EVER SINCE THE [00:29:58] STOCK MARKET CRASH OF 1929, [00:30:00] BLACK PEOPLE HAD TO SUFFER. [00:30:05] THEY CHERRY PICK EVERY JOB THERE IS. [00:30:09] AND THAT'S WHY THE BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT IS SO HIGH ALL THE TIME. [00:30:13] WHERE THE FIRST TO GET FIRED IN THE LAST TO GET HIRED. [00:30:17] IT IS INCREDIBLE. ANYWAY, THANK YOU. [00:30:21] >> AND FROM BRONX, NEW YORK, A [00:30:28] DEMOCRAT. GOOD MORNING. WHAT'S MOTIVATING YOUR 20.6 VOTE. [00:30:30] >> THE ECONOMY, THE WAR, I DON'T [00:30:36] LIKE THAT THERE PICKING UP [00:30:38] PEOPLE, IMMIGRANTS THAT ARE NOT [00:30:43] PEOPLE THAT HAVE DONE ANYTHING [00:30:46] WRONG, INNOCENT PEOPLE. [00:30:48] MORE INNOCENT PEOPLE ARE BEING PICKED UP THEN PEOPLE THEY SAY THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO GO AFTER. [00:30:52] THEY ARE NOT GOING AFTER THOSE [00:30:56] PEOPLE, THEY ARE GOING AFTER INNOCENT PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T DONE [00:31:00] ANYTHING. SO I AM ALSO SPEAKING ON THE [00:31:03] REPUBLICAN WHO TALKED EARLIER ABOUT HOW PEOPLE ARE GETTING ON [00:31:07] TRUMP AND TALKING ABOUT TRUMP. [00:31:10] I AGREE WITH THE GENTLEMAN THEY [00:31:12] DID THE SAME THING TO OBAMA. [00:31:15] THEY HAD THE TEA PARTY. AND THEY DID THE SAME THING TO [00:31:18] BIDEN. WHOSE SLEEPING NOW THE PRESIDENT [00:31:22] IS SLEEPING ALL THE TIME. NOBODY IS MAKING A BIG DEAL OVER [00:31:26] THAT. AND THE OTHER THING IS HOW DARE [00:31:30] THEY TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN THE PRESIDENT IS TALKING NEGATIVE ABOUT PEOPLE CALLING THEM OUT OF [00:31:34] THEIR NAMES. [00:31:37] HE IS SAYING MORE THINGS THAN ANYBODY THAT'S NEGATIVE. [00:31:41] SO HE IS SETTING A TERRIBLE EXAMPLE FOR THAT. I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW THAT [00:31:45] REPUBLICAN GUY SAID WHAT HE SAID. I AGREE WHEN THEY SAID THE [00:31:49] REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE DEMOCRATS AND [00:31:52] DEGRADING THEM. ALL THE TIME. [00:31:55] HOST: MARK FROM FLORIDA, [00:32:01] REPUBLICAN. GOOD MORNING, WHAT'S MOTIVATING [00:32:03] YOUR 2026 VOTE. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [00:32:08] I'VE BEEN VOTING FOR 40 PLUS YEARS. I'VE NEVER VOTED FOR A DEMOCRAT [00:32:11] AND I NEVER WILL. A LOT OF REASONS. [00:32:15] THEY HAVE A TERRIBLE HORRIBLE HISTORY GOING BACK 200 YEARS. [00:32:19] SO I'LL BE VOTING REPUBLICAN LIKE I ALWAYS DO. [00:32:22] EVEN THOUGH I GET ANGRY AT REPUBLICANS A LOT THEY'RE FAR [00:32:26] FROM PERFECT, THEY ARE BETTER THAN THE DEMOCRATS. I WANT TO BRING SOMETHING UP. [00:32:30] I KEEP HEARING THE DEMOCRATS [00:32:31] CALLING UP ABOUT INFLATION. [00:32:35] INFLATION REALLY STINKS, I NEVER REALLY THOUGHT TRUMP WAS GOING [00:32:38] TO BE ABLE TO GET INFLATION DOWN [00:32:40] AS LONG AS WE HAVE A MASSIVE NATIONAL DEBT SPINNING OUT OF [00:32:44] CONTROL I THINK LAST YEAR'S BUDGET DEFICIT WAS 1.7 TRILLION [00:32:48] DOLLARS. AS LONG AS THE PRESIDENT WHETHER [00:32:51] IT BE REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT AND CONGRESS CONTINUES TO ENGAGE IN [00:32:55] DEFICIT SPENDING HOW DO WE EXPECT TO GET INFLATION DOWN? I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REMIND [00:32:59] EVERYBODY THAT THIS INFLATION [00:33:04] CATASTROPHE AFFORDABILITY CRISIS [00:33:06] STARTED LITERALLY WITHIN 24 [00:33:10] HOURS OF JOE BIDEN TAKING OFFICE. THE DEMOCRATS RAN THE HOUSE AND SENATE DURING BIDEN'S FIRST [00:33:14] YEARS AND INFLATION EXPLODED. [00:33:17] INTEREST RATES EXPLODED. ALL OF THIS OCCURRED WHEN BIDEN [00:33:21] WAS THE PRESIDENT AND THE DEMOCRATS WERE IN CONTROL OF BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS. [00:33:25] SO THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THE [00:33:27] DEMOCRATS HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TO DO WITH GETTING INFLATION DOWN. [00:33:33] BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS THIS YEAR THEY ARE KNOCKING TO DO [00:33:36] ANYTHING. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING BECAUSE WE AS A COUNTRY [00:33:40] CANNOT GET SPENDING UNDER CONTROL. THE DEMOCRATS WANT TO KEEP [00:33:43] SPENDING MONEY ON WELFARE PROGRAMS AND ENTITLEMENT [00:33:47] PROGRAMS, GROWING THE SIZE OF GOVERNMENT AND IT'S JUST A BIG [00:33:51] MESS SO REGARDLESS OF WHO WINS THIS NOVEMBER, WE ARE NOT GOING [00:33:55] TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS INFLATION CRISIS BECAUSE NOBODY CAN STOP THE SPENDING. [00:33:59] HOST: MARK FROM FLORIDA, A [00:34:03] REPUBLICAN. KEY WEST, FLORIDA A DEMOCRAT. [00:34:05] GOOD MORNING DIANE. CALLER: GOOD MORNING, I AM VERY [00:34:10] PASSIONATE ABOUT THE ELECTION. I WANT TO SHARE SOMETHING THAT [00:34:14] HAPPENED JUST LAST WEEK. I BRING MY CAR INTO A GEO TO [00:34:18] CHECK OUT WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE CLUTCH. [00:34:22] THE GUY TELLS ME IT'S $239. [00:34:26] THEN HE STARTS MY CAR AND IT [00:34:29] MAKES A LOT OF NOISE AND HE SAYS IT IS SOMETHING BESIDE THE [00:34:33] TRANSMISSION, IS IT SOMETHING WITH THE ENGINE. [00:34:37] WE WILL CHARGE YOU ANOTHER 239. AND I SAID WAIT A SECOND YOU CAN [00:34:41] TELL ME EVERYTHING THAT'S WRONG AND HE SAYS NO. [00:34:44] HE SAYS YOU DO HAVE SOMETHING [00:34:46] WRONG IN FOUR DIFFERENT AREAS [00:34:49] AND WILL HAVE TO PAY $239 FOR [00:34:52] EACH ONE. [00:34:55] I SAID WAIT A SECOND THAT'S NOT [00:34:59] ETHICAL AND HE STARTS TELLING ME IF I WENT TO A DOCTOR THAT I [00:35:03] WOULD PAY FOR EACH AILMENT AND I REMINDED THE GUY YOU ARE NOT A [00:35:06] DOCTOR. SO THEN I SAID YOU CAN FIX MY CAR. [00:35:09] HOST: I'M GOING TO REROUTE YOU BACK TO THE QUESTION OF THE [00:35:12] MORNING. I SEE THIS STORY IS CONNECTED [00:35:15] BUT I WANT YOU TO JUMP TO THE MAIN THING. [00:35:19] WHAT IS AFFECTING YOUR 2026 [00:35:21] VOTE. >> ONE GUY HAS SERVICED ALL [00:35:29] STATIONS. IT'S A MONOPOLY. AND THAT'S MY POINT. [00:35:32] I'M SORRY IT TOOK SO LONG. THE RICH ARE GETTING SO RICH [00:35:36] THEY ARE BUYING UP AND IT'S A MONOPOLY IN THE MEDIA DOES SUCH [00:35:39] A GOOD JOB PITTING REPUBLICANS AGAINST DEMOCRATS. [00:35:42] THE REAL PROBLEM IS THE RICH [00:35:46] PEOPLE AGAINST THE POOR PEOPLE AND THERE IS NO MIDDLE CLASS. A MAJORITY OF US WE ARE THE POOR [00:35:50] PEOPLE. I'M VERY PASSIONATE. [00:35:54] I'M NOT IN A VOTE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO MAKE CHANGE THAT [00:35:58] WOULD BE THE SOCIAL DAMS OR ANY DEMOCRAT BECAUSE THE CONGRESS [00:36:02] HAS BEEN COMPLICIT IN GIVING THE PRESIDENT ALL OF HIS POWER. [00:36:05] I AM HOLDING SIGNS, I'M TALKING [00:36:08] TO PEOPLE AND CANVASSING. I AM ANGRY AT WHAT'S GOING ON [00:36:12] AND I FEEL SORRY FOR THE MAGA [00:36:16] PEOPLE THAT THEY CAN OPEN THEIR EYES AND SEE WHAT TRUMP IS DONE. [00:36:19] YOU OF THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESS AND SENATE, THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT. [00:36:23] HOW CAN YOU LET ANY OF THIS -- BLAME ANY OF THIS ON THE DEMOCRATS. [00:36:27] HOST: ED FROM COLUMBIA STATION, [00:36:32] OHIO, A REPUBLICAN. [00:36:33] CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [00:36:40] I PAY ATTENTION I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I WAS SAYING IT RIGHT. [00:36:43] YOU ARE DOING A VERY GOOD JOB. [00:36:51] OUR ECONOMY. I'M A CONSERVATIVE. [00:36:54] I VOTE DEMOCRAT IF THERE WAS [00:36:59] PEOPLE BETTER. THERE'S JUST NOT. OUR ECONOMY. [00:37:03] HERE A PEOPLE BLAME INFLATION. WITH THE NUMBER ONE ECONOMY IN [00:37:07] THE WORLD TODAY. [00:37:13] OUR INFLATION IS AT ABOUT THREE AND A HALF PERCENT GIVE OR TAKE. [00:37:15] IT WAS 22% OVER THE LAST FOUR [00:37:20] YEARS. [00:37:21] YOU HEAR THE MAYOR OF NEW YORK, [00:37:27] YOU HEAR ALL OF THIS TAX THE RICH PLANS AND ALL THESE FOLKS [00:37:30] ON THE LEFT. [00:37:36] THEY ALL TALK ABOUT THE FAILURES [00:37:40] FROM WHAT'S HIS NAME BERNIE [00:37:42] SANDERS AND THEY'RE ALL -- HERE'S THE FACT, ALREADY LIKE [00:37:47] ALL THE PEOPLE IN SEVERAL HOMES. [00:37:51] THOUSANDS A LIST OF THEM. [00:37:58] YOU TAX THE RICH. THAT'S ALL THEY SAY. NO ONE EVER HOLDS THEM HOW ARE [00:38:02] YOU PAY FOR ANY THE PROGRAMS. [00:38:06] ALREADY IT'S A FACT. THEY WILL LOSE BILLIONS AND BILLIONS MORE. [00:38:10] THEY ALL -- [00:38:12] HOST: ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE [00:38:16] NEW YORK TAX? CALLER: THEY CAN TEXEL THE RICH [00:38:20] THEY WANT AND GET IT. LOSING BILLIONS AND BILLIONS [00:38:24] MORE THAN THEY'LL EVER TAKE IN. [00:38:25] CALLER: I WONDER -- HOST: I [00:38:30] WONDER FOR OHIO SINCE THAT'S WHERE YOU LIVE WHAT WOULD BE [00:38:32] YOUR MOTIVATION THERE. CALLER: THE WHOLE COUNTRY NOT [00:38:35] JUST MY STATE. [00:38:38] WHAT'S GOOD FOR WHEN I'M DEAD WHEN THE COUNTRY SECURE. [00:38:41] I HAVE -- [00:38:47] I WAS OUT FULL-TIME OR I [00:38:49] WOULD'VE BEEN. [00:38:53] AND THEY ALL MAKE 100 GRAND OR [00:38:55] MORE A PIECE FOR TWO MONTHS OFF. [00:39:00] NOW, IT WILL BE OVER WITH. [00:39:02] FIRST TIME IN MY LIFETIME WE [00:39:05] WILL HAVE -- [00:39:12] JOE'S COMING IN ON THE NAVY OPS TEAM. I KNOW THE MIDEAST. [00:39:16] THEY BELIEVE -- IN COUNTRIES [00:39:21] THAT MOVED IN. THEY MEAN IT. [00:39:24] WE WILL GET THIS OIL THING STRAIGHTENED OUT. [00:39:28] LOOKING AT A BOMB OR YOU NAME IT. [00:39:31] IT ABOUT LEVEL THEM. [00:39:33] IF THEY DON'T COME TO THE TABLE. [00:39:37] WHAT I'M GETTING ABOUT WHAT'S [00:39:40] GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY, OUR ECONOMY IS DOING GREAT AND THE [00:39:44] OTHER THING WHO DO PEOPLE THINK [00:39:49] THEY WORK FOR, I HIGHER 17 MEN AT A COST A LOT OF MONEY AND [00:39:52] THEY GET TAXED AND THEN THEY SPEND THEIR MONEY BACK IN THE ECONOMY AND I'M JUST A PEANUT. [00:39:56] HOST: I THINK WE TAKE YOUR POINT [00:39:59] THERE. THAT WAS ED IN OHIO, A [00:40:02] REPUBLICAN. WASHINGTON, D.C., AN INDEPENDENT. [00:40:06] WHAT'S MOTIVATING YOUR 2026 VOTE. [00:40:10] CALLER: WHAT'S MOTIVATING MY [00:40:12] VOTE THIS YEAR IS THE FACT THAT [00:40:16] THE REPUBLICANS IN THE WHITE [00:40:21] HOUSE, CONGRESS, SENATE ALL OF [00:40:23] THEM ARE INCOMPETENT. [00:40:27] STEALING TAXPAYERS MONEY. SAYING THING HE WON'T SAY. [00:40:31] AND THE CALLER WHO SAID WE [00:40:34] SHOULDN'T SAY A THING ABOUT [00:40:36] TRUMP, TRUMP IS THE WORST HUMAN [00:40:39] BEING TO EVER BE ON THE EARTH AND HE'S RUNNING THE COUNTRY [00:40:42] INTO THE GROUND. [00:40:46] THE POLITICS, THE RELIGION IS [00:40:49] ALL MONEY BASED. IT'S THE RICH AGAINST THE POOR [00:40:53] ON THE ECONOMIC SIDE. SPIRITUALLY TO THE GOOD AGAINST [00:40:57] THE BAD. AND ON THE SAME PATH AS SODOM [00:41:01] AND GOMORRAH ON THE SAME PATH [00:41:03] THAT WAS ANNIHILATED BECAUSE OF [00:41:06] THEIR CORRUPTION. [00:41:08] THEIR GREED, THEIR CHILD [00:41:14] KILLERS. THEY'RE THE WORST HUMAN BEINGS ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. [00:41:16] HOST: KATHLEEN FROM SATELLITE [00:41:21] BEACH, FLORIDA. DEMOCRAT, GOOD MORNING. [00:41:24] >> GOOD MORNING. [00:41:28] I WANTED TO CALL ABOUT THE DSA. [00:41:31] I ALWAYS HEAR ABOUT ALL THE [00:41:34] CANDIDATES THAT ARE DSA, WHICH [00:41:36] THEY AREN'T BY THE WAY. [00:41:39] I WANTED TO MENTION THAT THERE [00:41:41] ARE 500 MILLION DEMOCRATS REGISTERED IN THE UNITED STATES [00:41:45] AND ONLY ABOUT 120,000 DSA. [00:41:50] SO IF A CANDIDATE SAYS THEY ARE [00:41:53] NOT DSA, THEY ARE NOT DSA. [00:41:56] THE CANDIDATES THAT ARE WINNING [00:41:58] SO OFTEN IN THIS PRIMARY AND [00:42:01] PROBABLY IN NOVEMBER ARE PEOPLE [00:42:04] THAT ARE TALKING ABOUT HELPING [00:42:07] THE POOR. [00:42:10] AND GIVING THAT BENEFIT TO [00:42:12] CHILDREN THAT ARE GOING HUNGRY. AND I DON'T MEAN HUNGRY HUNGRY [00:42:16] BUT TALKING ABOUT KIDS THAT WERE [00:42:19] GETTING ONE MEAL A DAY AT SCHOOL [00:42:22] THAT WAS HALFWAY DECENT. [00:42:24] AND AS FAR AS THE DEFICIT GOES. [00:42:27] HOST: LET ME REDIRECT YOU. [00:42:32] CAN YOU BE SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT IS MOTIVATING YOUR 2026 VOTE? [00:42:36] CALLER: FIRST OF ALL I HAVE [00:42:41] ALWAYS BEEN A DEMOCRAT AND I'M [00:42:44] LIKE ALL THE OTHER CALLERS [00:42:46] BEFORE ME AM TIRED OF THE [00:42:49] CORPORATIONS RUNNING THE COUNTRY . [00:42:53] THE LATEST SCAM THAT TRUMP IF A [00:42:56] CORPORATION WANTS A REGULATION [00:42:58] REMOVED OR EASED UP, HE ASKS FOR [00:43:02] A DONATION TO ONE OF HIS [00:43:04] PROJECTS AND IT'S DOCUMENTED NOW AND EVEN IF YOU ARE A [00:43:08] CORPORATION IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO DONATE TO TRUMP [00:43:12] AND BUILD THAT PORTFOLIO, THEN [00:43:16] HE JUST IGNORES YOU. [00:43:18] SO BASICALLY IT IS CORPORATIONS [00:43:22] VERSUS AVERAGE PEOPLE. HOST: KATHLEEN FROM FLORIDA, [00:43:26] DEMOCRAT. [00:43:30] RUSH, INDEPENDENT. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [00:43:34] I ALWAYS GET MIMI AND I ALWAYS START OUT WITH I'VE GOT YOU [00:43:38] AGAIN. [00:43:41] BUT HERE EIGHT MILES OUT OF PITTSBURGH, A BIG STEELERS FAN [00:43:44] THEY ARE GOING TO GO BIG THIS [00:43:47] YEAR. AT ANY RATE, I'M 74, RETIRED [00:43:51] U.S. STEEL. THE GENTLEMAN WHO CALLED A [00:43:55] COUPLE CALLS AGO I'M A NAVY [00:43:57] VETERAN ONLY FOUR YEARS. WE HAVE GUYS ON THE ABRAHAM [00:44:01] LINCOLN THAT CAN GET FOOD. SIX OF THEM TRIED TO COMMIT [00:44:04] SUICIDE. [00:44:08] 286 DAYS. USUALLY THE AVERAGE IS LIKE [00:44:11] THREE TO FIVE MONTHS GETTING TO [00:44:15] PORT. SO WERE NOT EVEN TAKING CARE OF [00:44:18] OUR OWN SERVICEMEN. WE ARE TRYING TO STRAIGHTEN OUT PERSIA, IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR [00:44:22] 5000 YEARS. I THINK WE'D BETTER GET OUT OF [00:44:25] THERE AND LET THOSE PEOPLE [00:44:27] ALONE. ON MY VOTE IT'S GOING TO BE AND [00:44:30] I VOTED FOR THIS GUY I'M NOT [00:44:34] GOING TO TALK BAD ABOUT THEM. HE MIGHT GET UPSET IF SOMEBODY [00:44:38] GETS MAD AT THEM. [00:44:41] AND I'M EXTREMELY UPSET WITH [00:44:45] THIS MAN. HE'S TURNED OUR COUNTRY, I DON'T [00:44:48] THINK WE ARE A DEMOCRACY. [00:44:55] WE WERE SUPPOSEDLY A REPUBLIC. [00:44:57] WE ARE TURNING INTO AN EMPIRE. [00:45:01] PEOPLE BETTER REALIZE WE ARE NOT THE BIGGEST BADDEST DUDES ON THE [00:45:04] BLOCK ANYMORE. WE HAVE A WHOLE OTHER BIG WORLD [00:45:07] OUT THERE. AND IT WOULD BE BEST IF WE TRIED [00:45:11] TO GET ALONG, DO SOME DIPLOMACY [00:45:15] INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT BUILDING MORE BOMBS. [00:45:18] I REMEMBER WE USED TO SEND CARE [00:45:20] PACKAGES FOR THE WORLD HEALTH [00:45:23] AND THINGS LIKE THAT. HOST: I ASSUME YOU WERE SAYING [00:45:27] YOU VOTED FOR THE PRESIDENT [00:45:30] THREE TIMES. NOW YOU ARE UNHAPPY. DO YOU PLAN TO SUPPORT [00:45:34] REPUBLICANS IN NOVEMBER? CALLER: NO. [00:45:37] I FIND MYSELF LEANING -- HERE'S [00:45:41] THE THING I WOULD BE A DEMOCRAT, [00:45:46] BUT I'M EXTREMELY PRO-LIFE. WHEN I SAY EXTREMELY I MEAN [00:45:49] THAT'S BIG FOR ME. [00:45:53] SO -- IT'S GOING TO BE, I FIND [00:45:56] MYSELF THAT ABDUL EL-SAYED, I [00:46:00] FOLLOWED HIS CAMPAIGN UP HERE IN [00:46:02] MICHIGAN. I FIND MYSELF CLOSER TO BEING A [00:46:05] DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST AND THROWING ALL THESE WORDS AROUND [00:46:09] OH HE'S A SOCIALIST. [00:46:12] TRUMP CALLED HIM A COMMUNIST. CALLING A SOCIALIST. [00:46:16] I WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR A [00:46:19] REPUBLICAN AGAIN AND I'M PROBABLY CAN HAVE A HARD TIME [00:46:23] WITH SOME DEMOCRATS, BUT [00:46:27] PERSONALLY I THINK IN PENNSYLVANIA. [00:46:30] YOU KNOW THE MIDTERMS IS IT'S [00:46:35] GOING TO BE THE PRESIDENTIAL. [00:46:37] I THINK KELLY FROM ARIZONA IS [00:46:40] GOING TO BE THE NOMINEE FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENCY. [00:46:44] BUT I WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR ANOTHER REPUBLICAN. [00:46:47] THEY JUST, THEY ARE IN THEIR. [00:46:51] HOST: WE ARE COMING CLOSE TO [00:46:55] TIME. LATER IN THE PROGRAM, MARK [00:46:59] WALLACE, CEO OF THE ORGANIZATION UNITED AGAINST A NUCLEAR IRAN [00:47:02] DISCUSSES THE LATEST IN THE WAR [00:47:04] WITH IRAN. FIRST, A FORMER SENIOR HEALTH [00:47:08] CARE ADVISOR FOR THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION SENIOR POLICY [00:47:12] ADVISOR DISCUSSING THE HEALTH CARE ISSUES AT THE FOREFRONT OF THE CAMPAIGN. [00:47:16] STAY WITH US. [00:47:25] >> YOU LOOK BACK ON WHAT YOU'VE [00:47:29] ACHIEVED IN YOUR LIFE. WHAT MAKES YOU THE HAPPIEST OF [00:47:32] WHAT YOU'VE ACHIEVED SO FAR. >> LEADERS SEEM TO LIKE TO WEAR [00:47:36] WIGS. HOW COME HE DIDN'T HAVE A WIG? [00:47:39] PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID I MADE THE MISTAKE THE FIRST TIME. I SHOULD'VE GIVEN TO THE FIRST [00:47:43] TIME. >> YOUR FIRST BOOK WAS CALLED A [00:47:47] TIME TO KILL. HOW MANY >> PUBLISHERS TURNED THAT DOWN. ALL OF THEM. [00:47:51] >> HE DOESN'T LIKE TO SMILE. HE HAS WITH THE CALL THE STAIR. [00:47:55] >> YOU GO TO THE OSCARS DID EVERYBODY THAT'S THE AUTHOR. [00:47:59] >> THE BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE GO THIS [00:48:02] WAY AND THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER [00:48:04] PATH WHERE PEOPLE LIKE I GO. >> I INTERVIEWED A GUY WHO LIVED [00:48:08] WITH WOLVES. >> IS THAT SAFE TO DO THAT? >> ABSOLUTELY NOT. [00:48:12] >> YOU ARE OPINIONATED ABOUT THE [00:48:16] SITUATION WHICH IS WHY WE LOVE [00:48:17] YOU DAVID. [00:48:24] >> GET C-SPAN WHEREVER YOU ARE [00:48:29] WITH C-SPAN NOW, OUR FREE MOBILE VIDEO APP THAT PUTS YOU AT THE [00:48:33] CENTER OF DEMOCRACY LIVE AND ON DEMAND. KEEP UP WITH THE DAY'S BIGGEST [00:48:37] EVENTS WITH LIVE STREAMS OF FLOOR PROCEEDINGS AND HEARINGS [00:48:41] FROM THE U.S. CONGRESS. WHITE HOUSE EVENTS, THE COURT, [00:48:44] CAMPAIGNS AND MORE. [00:48:46] ALL AT YOUR FINGERTIPS. CATCH THE LATEST EPISODES OF [00:48:50] WASHINGTON JOURNAL FIND [00:48:53] SCHEDULING INFORMATION FOR C-SPAN'S TV AND RADIO NETWORKS. [00:48:55] FIND A VARIETY OF COMPELLING [00:48:58] PODCASTS. 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[00:50:15] EASTERN PARADE ON C-SPAN'S Q AND A. YOU CAN LISTEN TO ALL OF OUR [00:50:19] PODCASTS ON OUR FREE C-SPAN NOW APP. OR WHEREVER YOU GET YOUR PODCASTS. [00:50:22] >> WASHINGTON JOURNAL CONTINUES. [00:50:25] >> JOINING US NOW TO DISCUSS [00:50:33] CAMPAIGN 2026 IS YVETTE FONTENOT. SENIOR POLICY ADVISOR AND A FORMER SENIOR OBAMA [00:50:37] ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ON HEALTH CARE. THANKS FOR BEING WITH >> US THIS [00:50:41] MORNING. >>THANKS FOR HAVING ME. [00:50:42] >> TELL US ABOUT PROTECT OUR [00:50:46] CARE, YOUR MISSION. [00:50:47] >> PROTECT OUR CARE IS A SOCIAL [00:50:53] WELFARE NONPROFIT THAT'S DEDICATED TO MAKING HIGH-QUALITY [00:50:56] AFFORDABLE AND EQUITABLE HEALTH CARE A RIGHT AND NOT A PRIVILEGE [00:51:00] FOR EVERYONE IN AMERICA. [00:51:03] PROTECT OUR CARE EDUCATES THE PUBLIC ON POLICY OR HEALTH CARE [00:51:07] CHAMPIONS. [00:51:09] AND TO POLITICIANS ACCOUNTABLE. [00:51:12] WE FIGHT TO EXPAND ACCESS FOR AFFORDABLE HEALTH INSURANCE. [00:51:15] THE LOWER THE COST FOR INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES AND [00:51:19] REDUCE AN EQUITY'S IN ON GENDER [00:51:23] INCOME, RACE, ETHNICITY OR [00:51:26] SEXUAL PREFERENCE. WE TAKE FUNDING FROM A MIXTURE OF PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS AND [00:51:30] INDIVIDUAL DONORS. >> I WANT TO ASK ABOUT YOUR SUPPORT. [00:51:34] IN A PREVENTING ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE. A LOT OF THINGS ARE IN [00:51:38] CONVERSATION WHEN COMES TO THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS LIKE [00:51:42] SINGLE-PAYER OR MEDICARE FOR ALL. [00:51:46] WHICH ONE OF THOSE DO YOU SUPPORT PRODUCE SUPPORT MARKETPLACE HEALTH CARE, WHERE [00:51:50] DOES -- WHERE THEY LAND ON THE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING [00:51:54] PARTICULARLY IN THE DEMOCRATIC [00:51:55] PARTY TODAY. >> JUST TO BACK UP WE THINK FOR [00:51:59] THE MIDTERMS HEALTH CARE COST HAVE OVERTAKEN THE TOP FINANCIAL [00:52:03] CONCERNS FOR AMERICANS AHEAD OF FOOD, HOUSING AND GAS PRICES [00:52:07] WHICH ARE ALL AFFORDABILITY CONCERNS. [00:52:10] ACCORDING TO PLACES LIKE KFS, [00:52:13] 54% OF AMERICANS ARE WORRIED ABOUT PAYING FOR HEALTH CARE. [00:52:17] TOPPING THE LIST OF THE AFFORDABILITY CONCERNS ACCORDING TO GALLUP, ONE THIRD OF [00:52:21] AMERICANS REPORTING CUTTING BACK [00:52:24] ON DAILY EXPENSES SUCH AS SKIPPING MEALS AND PRODUCING [00:52:27] UTILITY USE TO HEALTH CARE. AND ACCORDING TO AXIOS A [00:52:31] MAJORITY OF AMERICANS SAY THEY ARE MORE LIKELY TO VOTE FOR CANDIDATES THAT SUPPORT LOWERING [00:52:35] HEALTH CARE COSTS. [00:52:37] WE KNOW THAT DEMOCRATS HOLD A 21 [00:52:41] POINT ADVANTAGE OVER REPUBLICANS ON HEALTH CARE BECAUSE WE'VE [00:52:43] DELIVERED ON LOWER PREMIUMS [00:52:46] EXPANDING COVERAGE AND LOWERING DRUG COSTS WHICH RANK AMONGST [00:52:49] THE TOP FOR PEOPLE. AND IN CONTRAST WE KNOW THE [00:52:53] TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S HANDLING OF HEALTH CARE LAND THEM 36 [00:52:57] POINTS UNDERWATER. [00:52:58] I THINK IN TERMS OF WHAT PEOPLE [00:53:02] WANT, WHAT THE VOTERS WANT AND WHAT THEY CARE ABOUT IS THAT [00:53:05] THEY CAN GET THE SAME QUALITY OF [00:53:07] CARE REGARDLESS OF THEIR INCOME [00:53:10] THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY GET THE MEDICATIONS THEY NEED AND BE ABLE TO AFFORD THEM. [00:53:14] THAT THEY CAN GET THE CARE THEIR DOCTOR RECOMMENDS AND THEY ARE [00:53:17] ABLE TO AFFORD INSURANCE WITHOUT HAVING TO MAKE CUTS IN THE REST [00:53:20] OF THEIR FAMILY BUDGET AND THE CARE THEY NEED. [00:53:23] SO TO DO THAT, DEMOCRATIC [00:53:27] MEMBERS OF THE RELEVANT COMMITTEES ARE PROPOSED [00:53:30] EXPANDING THE MEDICARE NEGOTIATED PRICES TO ALL CONSUMERS REGARDLESS OF WHERE [00:53:34] THEY GET THEIR HEALTH CARE. LIMITING PEOPLE'S OUT-OF-POCKET [00:53:38] COSTS. NEED TO RESTORE THE TRILLION DO IN MEDICAID CUTS THAT [00:53:41] WERE MADE IN THE BIG BEAUTIFUL [00:53:46] BILL. WE NEED TO PROVIDE AMERICANS [00:53:50] WITH UNBIASED INFORMATION ABOUT ENROLLMENT AND RESTORE THE TAX [00:53:53] CREDIT THE LOWERED HEALTH [00:53:55] INSURANCE PREMIUMS FOR PEOPLE WHO BUY COVERAGE ON THEIR OWN. [00:53:59] WHERE AMERICAN VOTERS, OUT ON THE LARGER POLICY QUESTIONS WITH SINGLE-PAYER AND MEDICARE FOR [00:54:03] ALL WE WILL GET TO ALL OF THAT. THAT WOULD BE A BALLOT BOX [00:54:07] ISSUE. WE NEED TO TAKE FUNDAMENTAL STEPS TO ENSURE AMERICANS HAVE [00:54:11] ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE [00:54:12] AGAIN. HOST: I WANT TO DRILL DOWN ON [00:54:17] THE PRESIDENT AND WHAT HE'S DONE WITH HEALTH CARE. [00:54:19] YOU STARTED SAYING HE WILL ASK CONGRESS TO PASS HIS GREAT [00:54:23] HEALTH CARE, BUT I WONDER WHAT [00:54:27] IMPACT DOES THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION ALREADY HAD ON [00:54:31] HEALTH CARE. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT WHEN IT [00:54:34] COMES TO THE ONE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL. [00:54:36] I WONDER WRIT LARGE WHAT IMPACT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS HAD ON [00:54:40] HEALTH CARE. [00:54:42] GUEST: IN THE ONE BIG BEAUTIFUL [00:54:46] BILL, THE CUT $1 TRILLION IN THE MEDICAID PROGRAM. [00:54:50] IT'S THE LARGEST HEALTH CARE CUT WE'VE SEEN IN HISTORY. [00:54:53] AND THE PURPOSE OF IT WAS TO GIVE TAX CUTS TO BILLIONAIRES [00:54:57] AND CORPORATIONS. [00:54:59] AND JUST TO REMIND THE VIEWER. [00:55:02] THE MEDICAID PROGRAM PAYS FOR SIX IN 10 SENIORS IN NURSING [00:55:06] HOMES. IT COVERS FOUR IN 10 MOMS GIVING [00:55:08] BIRTH. IT COVERS NEARLY HALF OF THE [00:55:12] CHILDREN IN AMERICA AND A QUARTER OF RURAL AMERICA. SO THIS IS A CRITICAL HEALTH [00:55:16] CARE PROGRAM. [00:55:18] THEY TOOK $1 TRILLION OUT OF THE [00:55:21] PROGRAM AND THEY DOUBLED AND TRIPLED THE PREMIUMS FOR OVER 20 [00:55:24] MILLION PEOPLE WHO BUY COVERAGE [00:55:27] ON THEIR OWN. IN THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT [00:55:31] MARKETPLACES. SO SO FAR OVER 8 MILLION PEOPLE [00:55:35] AND COUNTING HAVE LOST HEALTH [00:55:37] COVERAGE THAT THEY COUNT ON. [00:55:41] IN THE EXPECTATION IS WE WILL BE [00:55:43] WELL UNDER 15 MILLION NEWLY [00:55:46] UNINSURED PEOPLE WITHIN THE 10 YEAR FRAME. [00:55:50] OVER 1000 HOSPITALS, CLINICS, NURSING HOMES ARE FACING CUTS OR [00:55:53] CLOSURE AND THAT'S SINCE THE BEGINNING AND THE DEEPER CUTS [00:55:56] GOING INTO EFFECT NEXT YEAR. WE ARE SEEING CHAOS IN THE [00:56:00] HEALTH CARE SYSTEM AS A RESULT OF THE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL AND [00:56:02] THE WAY THEY HAVE BEGUN [00:56:06] IMPLEMENTING THROUGH REGULATIONS [00:56:08] HAS MADE THAT EVEN WORSE IN TERMS OF THE REGULATIONS HAVE [00:56:11] BEEN AND HAVE GONE WAY BEYOND [00:56:13] WHAT WAS AUTHORIZED. [00:56:16] HOST: ACCORDING TO THE PETERSON [00:56:18] INSTITUTE THE MAJORITY OF THE [00:56:22] SAVINGS, 800 $19 MILLION COMES FROM NET DECREASES AND SPENDING [00:56:26] PROVISIONS LIKE MEDICAID. THERE'S ALSO A REDUCTION IN THE [00:56:29] TAX PREMIUM CREDITS FOR THE [00:56:31] AFFORDABLE CARE ACT AND EXCHANGE [00:56:34] ABOUT $200 BILLION. I WONDER IF WE COULD FOCUS A [00:56:37] LITTLE BIT ON MEDICAID RIGHT NOW. [00:56:40] THE WAY IN WHICH IT'S BEEN IMPACTED SPECIFICALLY WORK [00:56:44] REQUIREMENTS. HOW DO YOU SEE THAT AFFECTING [00:56:48] THE FLOW OF PEOPLE GET THESE BENEFITS. [00:56:50] >> IS GOING TO SIGNIFICANT [00:56:54] SHRINK THE POOL OF PEOPLE WHO GET BENEFITS THROUGH MEDICAID. [00:56:57] WE ALREADY SEEN THAT HAPPENING. [00:57:00] THE POINT HERE IS THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO GET MEDICAID [00:57:04] ALREADY WORKED. THE VAST MAJORITY ALREADY WORK [00:57:08] AND HAVE JOBS. [00:57:10] OR ARE IN SCHOOL AND MEET THESE [00:57:13] REQUIREMENTS FOR VOLUNTEERING. THE ISSUE IS THE WORK REQUIREMENT IS REALLY THAT IT [00:57:17] CREATES -- THAT IT REQUIRES [00:57:21] SIGNIFICANT SUBMISSION OF ENROLLMENT FORMS AND IT REQUIRES [00:57:25] THAT THE STATE BE ABLE TO FIND [00:57:28] AND CONTACT THESE PEOPLE THROUGH MECHANISMS THAT THEY MAY OR MAY [00:57:31] NOT HAVE. [00:57:34] THEY ARE FLUCTUATE. [00:57:37] THEY HAVE MULTIPLE JOBS IN ORDER TO FEED THEIR FAMILIES. [00:57:41] SO IT IS REALLY MORE OF A REDTAPE REQUIREMENT THAN IT IS A [00:57:45] WORK REQUIREMENT BECAUSE THEY WERE ALREADY WORKING. SO THE IMPACT WILL BE [00:57:49] SUBSTANTIAL IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE LOSING THEIR [00:57:53] COVERAGE THROUGH MEDICAID BECAUSE OF THIS NEW REQUIREMENT [00:57:56] IN PLACE. HOST: I WANT TO INVITE OUR [00:58:00] VIEWERS TO JOIN IN. WE HAVE EITHER THAT, A FORMER TAP THE DIRECTOR IN THE OBAMA [00:58:04] HHS OFFICE. HELP FOR ANSWERING YOUR [00:58:08] QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CURRENT STATUS OF HEALTH CARE AND WHAT [00:58:10] THAT MEANS IN THE CAMPAIGN. [00:58:13] REPUBLICANS ARE LYING, 202-748-8001 -- REPUBLICANS, [00:58:16] YOUR LINE IS 202-748-8001. [00:58:22] DEMOCRATS, 202-748-8000. [00:58:25] INDEPENDENTS 202-748-8002. [00:58:29] I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE ACA. [00:58:32] OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED DURING THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION AND HAS STAYED [00:58:36] SINCE THEN BUT HAS FACED [00:58:39] DIFFICULTIES GOING FORWARD. [00:58:43] THE CONGRESS ALLOWS PREMIUM [00:58:47] SUBSIDIES TO EXPIRE AT THE END OF LAST YEAR. [00:58:51] WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE STATUS OF THE ACA WITH THAT PROVISION [00:58:55] NOW EXPIRED. [00:58:57] HOST: TO REMIND THE VIEWERS, THE [00:59:03] FOLKS WHO BUY COVERAGE FOR THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT ON THE [00:59:07] MARKETPLACES ARE PEOPLE WHO BUY COVERAGE ON THEIR OWN. THEY DO NOT GET COVERAGE THROUGH [00:59:11] THEIR EMPLOYER. SO THESE ARE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS. [00:59:15] THESE ARE FARMERS, CAREGIVERS. [00:59:20] EARLY RETIREES. THESE ARE FOLKS WHO HAVE NO OTHER PLACE TO GO TO PURCHASE [00:59:24] THEIR COVERAGE. THE ENHANCED TAX CREDITS YOU [00:59:27] JUST REFERENCED THAT WERE AVAILABLE THROUGH THE OBAMA AND [00:59:30] BIDEN ERA, THROUGH THE MARKETPLACES. [00:59:34] THEY RESULTED IN THE LOWEST RATE OF UNINSURED IN -- THAT THIS [00:59:38] COUNTRY HAS EVER SEEN. [00:59:40] WE WERE AT NEAR FULL COVERAGE IN [00:59:45] THIS COUNTRY AND THEN WHEN REPUBLICANS CUT THOSE TAX CREDITS WE HAD SIGNIFICANT [00:59:49] LOSSES IN THE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO PURCHASE THAT [00:59:53] COVERAGE BECAUSE THEY LOST THAT [00:59:54] ASSISTANCE. SO WE ARE REALLY LOOKING AT [00:59:58] ABOUT CLOSE TO 4 MILLION PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALREADY SEEN THAT [01:00:02] COVERAGE. THEY ARE NOW UNABLE TO AFFORD [01:00:06] THAT COVERAGE. THE HEADLINES ARE PILING UP FROM [01:00:09] CALIFORNIA TO VIRGINIA. TO NO LONGER AFFORD THE COVERAGE [01:00:13] WHENCE THOSE TAX CREDITS WERE [01:00:15] TAKEN AWAY. THE HOSPITALS ARE REPORTING A [01:00:18] NUMBER OF UNINSURED PATIENTS AND [01:00:21] ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PROTECTOR [01:00:23] CARE DOES IS COLLECT THESE KINDS [01:00:26] OF STORIES FROM THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS THESE FARMERS AND CAREGIVERS. [01:00:30] CAREGIVERS BUT HAD THEIR HEALTH [01:00:33] CARE COVERAGE JEOPARDIZED BY THOSE CUTS. [01:00:36] WE HAVE SEEN A TWO TIME CANCER [01:00:39] SURVIVOR IN GRAND RAPIDS, MICHIGAN GOING UNINSURED AND [01:00:42] WAITING TO AGENT TO MEDICARE AFTER HER PREMIUMS SKYROCKETED A [01:00:45] THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH. A GRANDMOTHER IN GEORGIA WHO [01:00:49] LOOKS AFTER HER GRANDSON WITH AUTISM WHO IS NOW UNINSURED WITH [01:00:52] HER PREMIUM HAVING QUADRUPLED. [01:00:55] THESE ARE SIGNIFICANT CUTS TO THE TAX CREDITS PEOPLE WERE [01:00:58] GETTING WHO ARE NOW UNABLE TO [01:01:03] AFFORD THE COVERAGE ON THE MARKETPLACE AND ARE GOING [01:01:04] UNINSURED. LET'S GO TO -- HOST: LET'S GO TO [01:01:09] PHONE CALLS. VIRGINIA FROM ARIZONA, A DEMOCRAT. [01:01:13] CALLER: THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. [01:01:16] I HAVE A QUESTION -- FIRST OF [01:01:19] ALL I WANT TO SAY THIS. [01:01:21] THIS IS ONE BIG REASON I AM [01:01:25] VOTING FOR DEMOCRATS IN THE FALL AND I'M HOPING THE AMERICAN [01:01:28] PUBLIC SEES IT IN THEIR BEST INTEREST TO VOTE FOR A PARTY [01:01:32] THAT WILL ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING [01:01:35] AS FAR AS RESTORING THE BENEFITS [01:01:39] FOR THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. [01:01:41] AS FAR AS PUSHING THE IDEA OF [01:01:45] HEALTH CARE FOR EVERY SINGLE [01:01:48] PERSON IN THIS COUNTRY. IF YOU DO NOT VOTE DEMOCRAT YOU [01:01:52] HAVE NO CHANCE WHATSOEVER OF [01:01:53] MAKING SURE PEOPLE DO NOT GET [01:01:57] BANKRUPT WHEN THEY RUN INTO A MEDICAL CRISIS. [01:02:01] THE QUESTION I HAVE TO ASK FOR [01:02:04] YVETTE HAS TO DO WITH EFFORTS -- [01:02:07] WHAT CAN WE DO TO ENCOURAGE MORE [01:02:12] DOCTORS TO TAKE ON THE PATIENT'S [01:02:16] WHO HAVE OBAMA CARE AND MEDICARE [01:02:19] AND MEDICAID PATIENTS SO THAT [01:02:25] THERE ARE SUFFICIENT DOCTORS OUT THERE? [01:02:28] WHAT CAN WE DO IN THAT REGARD? [01:02:32] GUEST: THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. [01:02:36] I THINK WE CAN START BY NOT [01:02:40] TAKING $1 TRILLION OUT OF THE MEDICAID PROGRAM AS THEY DID IN [01:02:43] THE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL. THAT REALLY RESTRICTS THE [01:02:46] STATE'S ABILITIES TO REIMBURSE PHYSICIANS AND OTHER PROVIDERS [01:02:49] AT A LEVEL THAT MAKES IT LIVABLE FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY SEE THESE [01:02:53] PATIENTS. WE HAVE TO START BY RESTORING [01:02:56] THAT TRILLION DOLLAR CUT AND IN [01:02:59] ORDER TO DO THAT WE HAVE TO GET DEMOCRATS INTO OFFICE. [01:03:03] I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT TRAINING [01:03:06] DOCTORS AND THE WORKFORCE, THE [01:03:08] NUMBER OF PEOPLE GOING INTO [01:03:15] OTHER PROVIDERS SO WE HAVE A SUFFICIENT LEVEL OF ACCESS. [01:03:18] WE HAVE TO START BY MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE FUNDING IN THESE [01:03:22] PROGRAMS THAT IS ESSENTIAL TO REIMBURSEMENT RATES TO MAKE SURE [01:03:25] PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS. [01:03:27] HOST: DJ FROM TEXAS. [01:03:30] A REPUBLICAN. [01:03:32] CALLER: THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. [01:03:36] I ORIGINALLY CALLED FOR THE CAMPAIGN AND THAT I SAW HEALTH [01:03:40] CARE AND I HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT [01:03:41] THAT. AS FAR AS CAMPAIGNING, WHAT [01:03:45] PUSHES MY VOTE, A LOT OF PEOPLE [01:03:48] IGNORE OR DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE TERM FISCAL IMPACT MEANS. [01:03:53] THEY DO NOT LOOK AT THE BILL OR LOOK AT ANYTHING. [01:03:56] THEY VOTE ON THEIR EMOTIONS. FISCAL IMPACT IS THE REASON WE [01:04:00] ARE IN THE POSITION WE ARE IN WITH OUR DEBT. [01:04:03] THE REASON WHY THE DEMOCRATIC [01:04:05] PARTY IN MANY STATES. [01:04:08] I WOULD LOVE TO SEE C-SPAN PUT UP A GRAPH. [01:04:12] LET'S GO CITY BY CITY. [01:04:16] HOST: I WILL JUMP IN AND ASK YOU [01:04:20] TO SAY OR COMMENT ON HEALTH CARE. CALLER: KEEP IN MIND WHEN YOU [01:04:24] ARE VOTING ON THE FISCAL IMPACT. THAT IS WHERE YOUR VOTE NEEDS TO [01:04:28] BE. [01:04:29] AS FAR AS HEALTH CARE GOES, I AM [01:04:34] ALL FOR HAVING INSURANCE. [01:04:37] I HAVE INSURANCE FOR MY CAR. I HAVE A DRIVERS LICENSE. [01:04:41] THAT IS A PRIVILEGE. IT IS A PRIVILEGE TO DRIVE. [01:04:45] IT IS A PRIVILEGED OWN A CAR. YOU HAVE TO HAVE INSURANCE. [01:04:48] I HAVE A HOME. YOU BETTER ENSURE YOUR HOME. [01:04:52] IT IS A PRIVILEGE TO HAVE A HOME. IT IS A PRIVILEGE. [01:04:56] YOU NEED TO ENSURE THAT PRIVILEGE. [01:05:00] TWO AND A HALF DECADES AGO WE [01:05:03] ARE BEING FORCED INTO HEALTH CARE. [01:05:05] I GUESS LIVING IS A PRIVILEGE. [01:05:08] IT IS A PRIVILEGE TO BE A HUMAN BEING AND BE ALIVE AND WE ARE [01:05:12] FORCED TO BUY THIS PRODUCT TO [01:05:14] COVER OUR HEALTH CARE. I HAVE HAD HEALTH CARE THROUGH [01:05:18] THE TEAMSTERS UNTIL THREE YEARS AGO. [01:05:21] I WAS A TEAMSTER FOR THE FILM [01:05:23] AND TELEVISION INDUSTRY. [01:05:26] I AM STILL A MEMBER OF THE SCREEN ACTORS GUILD. IT IS ALL BASED ON YOUR INCOME, [01:05:30] WHETHER YOU QUALIFY FOR YOUR HEALTH INSURANCE OR NOT. IF YOU DO NOT QUALIFY THEY CAN [01:05:34] OFFER YOU THE COBRA. [01:05:36] IT IS QUITE EXPENSIVE. HEALTH CARE AS A WHOLE IS QUITE [01:05:40] EXPENSIVE. FOR THE LAST THREE AND A HALF [01:05:44] YEARS I'VE BEEN PAYING FOR MY HEALTH CARE CASH OUT OF POCKET [01:05:48] AND I HAVE SAVED MYSELF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. [01:05:52] I HAVE HEALTH CONDITIONS, I HAVE HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE, IF YOU [01:05:56] GOING TO SEE THE DOCTOR ALL OF THE TIME FOR RENEWALS OF MY [01:05:59] BLOOD PRESSURE MEDICINE, MY HIGH [01:06:02] CHOLESTEROL MEDICINE. I ALSO HAVE SKIN CANCER. [01:06:05] I HAVE HAD SEVERAL DEFORMING [01:06:12] SURGERIES TO REMOVE SKIN CANCER FROM MY FACE AND ARMS AND ALL [01:06:15] OVER. [01:06:18] I HAVE HAD TWO PROCEDURES. HOST: LET ME PUSH YOU A LITTLE BIT. [01:06:22] IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR A SPECIFIC COMMENT FOR YVETTE TO ANSWER? [01:06:26] CALLER: PAYING CASH AND NOT [01:06:29] BEING FORCED TO BUY A PRODUCT. [01:06:33] HEALTH CARE IS NOT WHAT IT IS ALL CRACKED UP TO BE. MY MOTHER -- [01:06:37] HOST: LET'S LET YVETTE GET IN [01:06:42] AND ANSWER THIS. GUEST: I AM SORRY YOU ARE [01:06:46] DEALING WITH SKIN CANCER AND OTHER ILLNESSES. [01:06:50] THAT IS A HORRIBLE SITUATION. [01:06:57] THAT IS THE KIND OF THING YOU NEED HEALTH INSURANCE TO PROTECT YOU AGAINST CATASTROPHIC COSTS [01:07:01] THAT COME UP FOR EVERYBODY. [01:07:05] AS A REMINDER FOR THE VIEWERS, BEFORE THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT [01:07:08] WAS PASSED, IF YOU HAD SKIN CANCER OR YOU HAD HIGH BLOOD [01:07:12] PRESSURE OR ANY OF THOSE INDICATIONS YOU JUST MENTIONED, [01:07:15] YOU WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN OFFERED [01:07:18] -- THOSE ARE PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS AND YOU'VE BEEN [01:07:22] DECLINED EVEN THE OFFER OF HEALTH INSURANCE, LET ALONE AFFORDABLE HEALTH INSURANCE. [01:07:26] I THINK IT IS GREAT YOU CAN [01:07:29] ACCESS HEALTH INSURANCE AND YOU ARE CORRECT, YOU ARE PAYING TOO [01:07:33] MUCH FOR IT. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS MAKE [01:07:37] HEALTH CARE MORE AFFORDABLE FOR EVERYONE IN THIS COUNTRY BY [01:07:41] LOWERING THE COST OF HEALTH CARE [01:07:44] AND YOU CANNOT DO THAT BY CUTTING THE HEALTH COVERAGE [01:07:48] PROGRAMS BY $1 TRILLION. WE HAVE TO RESTORE THAT FUNDING [01:07:52] AND ACTUALLY MAKE HEALTH CARE [01:07:54] AND HEALTH CARE AFFORDABILITY A [01:07:57] FOCUS OF THE ELECTION AND WHO YOU ARE ELECTING. [01:08:01] I THINK FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE THE DEMOCRATS ARE FOCUSED ON THE [01:08:05] ISSUE OF AFFORDABILITY. YOUR ECONOMIC CIRCUMSTANCE AND [01:08:09] HOW WE MAKE THAT ECONOMIC CIRCUMSTANCE BETTER, NOT OTHER [01:08:13] THINGS, WARS OF CHOICE AND [01:08:16] BALLROOMS. WE ARE FOCUSED ON DELIVERING FOR [01:08:20] YOU AND AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE PRODUCT THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE [01:08:24] YOU TO MAKE THOSE CHOICES BETWEEN YOUR HOME INSURANCE IN [01:08:28] YOUR CAR INSURANCE AND YOUR HEALTH INSURANCE. [01:08:31] YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO AFFORD ALL OF THOSE THINGS FOR THE REASON YOU JUST STATED, WHICH IS THAT [01:08:35] YOU GET SICK YOU NEED THAT PIECE [01:08:38] OF MIND TO MAKE SURE YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GET THE CARE YOU NEED. [01:08:41] HOST: SPEAKING OF DEMOCRATS, AND [01:08:46] AXIOS POLL FROM JUNE SHOWED THAT [01:08:48] 45% OF THOSE RESPONDENTS SAID [01:08:53] THEY WERE MORE LIKELY WHEN ASKED ABOUT THE LIKELIHOOD OF VOTING [01:08:56] FOR A CANDIDATE THAT SUPPORTS [01:08:58] REINSTATING ENHANCED ACA [01:09:03] SUBSIDIES, 16% SAID LESS LIKELY, [01:09:07] 22% SAID NO DIFFERENCE. [01:09:10] OUR DEMOCRATS CAMPAIGNING ON RESTORING THESE SUBSIDIES AND IF SO WHAT IS THE CHANCE THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS? [01:09:14] GUEST: DEMOCRATS ARE TALKING [01:09:18] ABOUT RESTORING THOSE SUBSIDIES. [01:09:21] JUST BEFORE BEFORE THE AUGUST [01:09:25] BREAK THE HOUSE BROUGHT UP A [01:09:28] PETITION TO EXTEND THOSE TAX [01:09:32] CREDITS FOR THREE YEARS. [01:09:37] THAT HAD THE MAJORITY SUPPORT IN [01:09:39] THE HOUSE BUT WAS NEVER TAKEN UP BY THE SPEAKER. [01:09:43] THE DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP IN THE HOUSE IN THE SENATE HAVE TRIED TO FORCE BOATS TO RESTORE THOSE [01:09:46] TAX CREDITS AND CANDIDATES ON [01:09:50] THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW TO RESTORE THOSE TAX [01:09:53] CREDITS AND GET THAT DONE. [01:09:58] THE FOLKS WHO BY THAT COVERAGE AND RELIED ON THOSE TAX CREDITS, [01:10:02] THAT IS THERE A SINGLE WAY TO GET COVERAGE. THEY ARE FOLKS WHO BY COVERAGE [01:10:06] ON THEIR OWN. [01:10:09] THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, EARLY RETIREES, THE CAREGIVERS, THE [01:10:12] FARMERS. [01:10:16] THEY ARE CONSEQUENTIAL VOTING BLOCS FOR THESE MEMBERS AND IMPORTANT CONSTITUENTS. [01:10:20] THEY ARE RUNNING ON THAT. IN TERMS OF THE CHANCES OF THAT [01:10:24] HAPPENING THAT DEPENDS ON THE [01:10:25] ELECTION OUTCOME. [01:10:29] IF DEMOCRATS WERE TO TAKE THE MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE [01:10:33] THEY WILL FOCUS ON RESTORING THOSE TAX CREDITS AND IT WILL REALLY BE UP TO WHERE THE [01:10:37] PRESIDENT IS. DOES HE WANT TO HELP THESE [01:10:40] PEOPLE GET THAT COVERAGE BACK OR NOT? THAT IS WHY THE ELECTION OUTCOME [01:10:44] IS SO IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF WHAT THE RESULTS ARE FROM A HEALTH [01:10:48] CARE AFFORDABILITY PERSPECTIVE. [01:10:49] HOST: PATRICK FROM FLORIDA. [01:10:53] INDEPENDENT. GOOD MORNING. [01:10:55] CALLER: THANKS FOR TAKING MY CALL. [01:10:59] ONE THING YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IS [01:11:03] HEALTH CARE SYSTEM FOR PROFIT. I DON'T MIND PEOPLE MAKING A [01:11:07] PROFIT BUT YOU LOOK AT ALL THESE [01:11:12] MULTIMILLION DOLLAR SALARIES. [01:11:14] STOCK BONUSES AND ALL THE REST. [01:11:17] I THINK YOU SHOULD CONCENTRATE [01:11:19] ON LIFESTYLE REFORM. I READ AN ARTICLE IN THE WALL [01:11:23] STREET JOURNAL THAT SAID NO MATTER WHAT THE SOCIOECONOMIC [01:11:26] LEVEL OF HISPANICS ARE, THEY HAVE VERY LOW HEALTH CARE COSTS [01:11:30] BECAUSE THEY DO NOT SMOKE. [01:11:32] I READ THAT ARTICLE AND I THINK [01:11:35] I CANNOT REMEMBER THE LAST TIME I HAVE SEEN A HISPANIC PERSON SMOKING. [01:11:39] JAPAN HAS 20% OF PROSTATE CANCER [01:11:44] RATES BECAUSE THEIR PRIMARY MEAT [01:11:47] PROTEIN IS FISH AND CHICKEN, NOT RED MEAT. [01:11:51] I WAS STATIONED IN GERMANY, YOU [01:11:54] GO INTO A STORE, YOU CANNOT FIND [01:11:57] CAP'N CRUNCH, THEY WOULD NOT LET [01:12:01] THEM BE SOLD. [01:12:03] WHAT IS THE OBESITY RATES -- [01:12:08] WHAT IS IT CALLED WHEN YOU HAVE TOO MUCH SUGAR IN YOUR SYSTEM? [01:12:12] DIABETES. COMPARE THOSE RATES IN THE 30'S [01:12:16] AND 40'S AND 50'S AND GET TO IT [01:12:17] NOW. ONE LAST THING, I HEAR ALL OF [01:12:21] THESE PEOPLE CALLING INTO C-SPAN AND SAYING YOU ARE MEAN TO DONALD TRUMP. [01:12:24] YOU ARE CALLING IN A PROGRAM THAT SPENT EIGHT YEARS ON [01:12:27] WHITEWATER, WHITEWATER, AND [01:12:31] THREE YEARS ON BENGHAZI, BENGHAZI. [01:12:35] THAT IS MY TWO CENTS. THANK YOU. [01:12:37] HOST: I WONDER AT THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT? [01:12:41] CALLER: I DO NOT -- GUEST: I DO [01:12:46] NOT DISAGREE THAT LIFESTYLE IS IMPORTANT. [01:12:49] TO THAT POINT, I THINK HAVING [01:12:52] HEALTH INSURANCE COVERAGE IS CRITICAL TO TRYING TO MAINTAIN [01:12:56] THOSE LIFESTYLE POINTS. [01:12:57] AS AN EXAMPLE, DURING -- WHEN [01:13:02] MEDICAID WAS EXPANDED UNDER THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT THE STATES THAT ACTUALLY TOOK UP THAT [01:13:06] EXPANSION HAD RESULTS LIKE [01:13:09] INCREASED ACCESS TO PRIMARY AND PREVENTIVE CARE SO HAVING A [01:13:12] PERSONAL DOCTOR, GETTING [01:13:15] CHECKUPS IN THE PAST YEAR FOR ADULTS WITH LOW INCOME, THEY [01:13:19] WERE 7% MORE LIKELY THAN THE NON-EXPANSION STATES TO HAVE [01:13:23] MAMMOGRAMS AND 5% MORE LIKELY TO BE TESTED FOR CHOLESTEROL, HIGH [01:13:27] BLOOD SUGAR, OR DIABETES. [01:13:30] THE ABILITY TO ACCESS THOSE KINDS OF PREVENTATIVE SERVICES [01:13:34] AND DIAGNOSTIC SERVICES TO KEEP [01:13:36] YOURSELF HEALTHY AND TO KNOW YOU [01:13:39] ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK IN ORDER [01:13:43] TO MAINTAIN THAT LIFESTYLE AND STAY FOCUSED ON IT, HEALTH [01:13:47] INSURANCE COVERAGE IS CRITICAL TO THAT. [01:13:49] CUTTING COVERAGE FOR PEOPLE AND INCREASING THE NUMBER OF [01:13:53] UNINSURED AND DRIVING UP THE COSTS OF HEALTH CARE AS OPPOSED [01:13:57] TO TRYING TO MAKE IT MORE AFFORDABLE REALLY UNDERMINES THE [01:14:01] BOWL THAT PATRICK IS TALKING ABOUT. HOST: SOMETHING THE TRUMP [01:14:05] ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN FOCUSED ON THE LAST FEW MONTHS IS THE [01:14:07] ISSUE OF FRAUD. [01:14:10] THEY ANNOUNCED A MAJOR CAMPAIGN AGAINST WHAT THEY ALLEGE TO BE A [01:14:13] MASSIVE FRAUD, ESPECIALLY INSIDE [01:14:17] THE MEDICAID PROGRAM. [01:14:19] THEY ESTIMATE ABOUT $230 BILLION [01:14:23] IS SUSPECTED IN HEALTH CARE FRAUD IDENTIFIED BY THE FEDERAL [01:14:25] TASK FORCE LED BY JD VANCE. [01:14:29] IS IT YOUR VIEW THAT HEALTH CARE [01:14:32] OVERSIGHT AND THIS IDEA THERE [01:14:35] COULD BE FRAUD EVERYWHERE, IS [01:14:40] OVERSIGHT OVER HEALTH CARE FRAUD AND MEDICAID FRAUD ADEQUATE? [01:14:43] GUEST: TO BE CLEAR, NO ONE IS IN [01:14:48] FAVOR OF FRAUD. WE DO NOT WANT TO SEE FRAUD IN [01:14:52] OUR PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS OR PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS OR THE WHITE HOUSE. [01:14:56] EVERYONE WANTS TO ENSURE PROGRAM INTEGRITY AND PROTECT TAXPAYER DOLLARS. [01:15:00] THAT IS WHY DEMOCRATS HAVE INTRODUCED LEGISLATION TO [01:15:03] ADDRESS THE REAL DRIVERS OF FRAUD, CROOKED BROKERS AND [01:15:07] AGENTS, CRIMINAL PROVIDERS, UNSCRUPULOUS HEALTH PLANS, AND [01:15:10] TO INCREASE THE FUNDING TO THE PROGRAMS THAT WERE JOINTLY [01:15:14] OPERATED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES AS [01:15:17] WELL AS THE FBI TO IDENTIFY AND [01:15:21] PROSECUTE HEALTH CARE FRAUD. THESE ARE THE KINDS OF PROGRAMS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. [01:15:25] THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THOSE ARE FULLY FUNDED AND THEY HAVE THE [01:15:28] TOOLS THEY NEED. WHAT REPUBLICANS ARE DOING IS [01:15:32] USING THE PRETEXT OF FRAUD TO REDUCE BENEFITS AND CUT [01:15:36] ENROLLMENT FOR THOSE WHO NEED HEALTH CARE COVERAGE. [01:15:40] THAT IS WHAT WE CANNOT ALLOW. [01:15:43] AS AN EXAMPLE, CMS, THE AGENCY [01:15:47] THAT RUNS MEDICARE AND MEDICAID IN THE MARKETPLACE CONTINUES TO [01:15:50] HIGHLIGHT FRAUD BY BROKERS. [01:15:54] TO ADVANCED POLICY SOLUTIONS THAT PUNISH CONSUMERS FOR THE VICTIMS OF FRAUD IT IS CLEAR [01:15:58] THEY ARE NOT TAKING ACTION [01:16:01] AGAINST THE BAD ACTORS BUT THEY [01:16:05] HAVE ACTUALLY REINSTATED EVERY BROKER SUSPENDED BY THE BIDEN [01:16:09] ADMINISTRATION AND THEY HAVE NOT REPORTED TAKING ANY ENFORCEMENT [01:16:12] ACTION AGAINST BROKERS. [01:16:15] THIS IS BEING USED AS A SMOKESCREEN TO CUT BENEFITS AND [01:16:19] ENROLLMENTS FOR BENEFICIARIES. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS FOCUS ON [01:16:23] THE PROGRAMS YOU ARE MENTIONING, WHICH IS TO GIVE THE CORRECT [01:16:27] AUTHORITIES THE RIGHT OVERSIGHT AND FUNDING IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THE REAL FRAUD THAT IS [01:16:31] UNDERLYING THE PROGRAMS. [01:16:32] HOST: JIM FROM SHERMAN, TEXAS. [01:16:38] A REPUBLICAN. GOOD MORNING. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [01:16:42] OFTEN TIMES WE MISS THE BIG [01:16:46] QUESTION AND THAT IS HOW DO WE REDUCE THE COST OF DELIVERING [01:16:50] MEDICINE? [01:16:51] I WOULD SAY I AM NOT AN EXPERT [01:16:57] MECHANIC BUT I AM GLAD I CAN GO TO AN AUTO PARTS STORE AND BUY [01:17:01] SOME PARTS AND PUT THEM ON MY [01:17:05] VEHICLE FOR REPAIRS THAT I CAN HANDLE. [01:17:07] OUR GOVERNMENT, STARTING WITH [01:17:12] GOOD INTENTIONS TO PROTECT US [01:17:13] FROM SNAKE OIL SALESMAN. [01:17:19] INCREMENTALLY INCREASE [01:17:20] REQUIREMENTS FOR DRUGS. [01:17:24] IT SHOULD HAVE STAYED WHERE IT STARTED AND THAT WAS WHATEVER IS [01:17:28] IN THERE HAS TO BE LABEL IT IS IN THERE. [01:17:31] IF IT IS POISONOUS THEN A NOTICE [01:17:36] WOULD SAY IT IS POISONOUS. [01:17:41] IT DOES NOT PROHIBIT PEOPLE [01:17:42] TAKING SUBSTANCES THAT MIGHT BE [01:17:48] POISONOUS IF YOU INCLUDE ALCOHOL [01:17:53] . [01:17:54] THE POINT IS WE ARE REGULATED TO [01:17:59] THE POINT -- FOR COST OF HEALTH CARE LET'S DO IT ONE STEP AT A [01:18:03] TIME. [01:18:04] OUR DRUGS -- WHETHER [01:18:09] OVER-THE-COUNTER OR REQUIRING A PRESCRIPTION -- IT IS INSULTING [01:18:13] THE GOVERNMENT CANNOT TRUST [01:18:14] AMERICANS TO DECIDE THIS IS THE [01:18:18] HEALTH CHOICE I WANT TO MAKE. [01:18:20] WE NEED A PERMISSION SLIP. I DON'T THINK THAT IS RIGHT. [01:18:24] HOST: LET'S LET YVETTE GET INTO [01:18:29] THIS SINCE YOU ARE PART OF THE HEALTH REFORM OFFICE AT HHS. [01:18:33] GUEST: JIM IS RIGHT THAT HEALTH [01:18:37] CARE IS TOO EXPENSIVE. ALL OF THE COMMENTS ARE ALL [01:18:41] COMING FROM THE SAME BASIC PREMISE WHICH IS THAT HEALTH CARE NEEDS TO BE MORE AFFORDABLE [01:18:45] IN THIS COUNTRY. YOU ARE REFERENCING A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF REGULATION THAT NEEDS [01:18:49] TO OCCUR. WE ARE CLEARLY SEEING THAT RIGHT [01:18:52] NOW WHERE IT WOULD BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO EAT A SALAD AND NOT HAVE [01:18:56] TO WORRY ABOUT THAT ORATORY [01:19:00] ABOUT THE MEASLES RATE GOING UP AFTER DECADES OF KIDS BEING PROTECTED. [01:19:03] THERE NEEDS TO BE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF REGULATION AND [01:19:07] SCIENTIFIC EXPERTISE THAT INFORMS THAT REGULATION. [01:19:11] YOU ARE RIGHT THAT IT SHOULD NOT, THE COST OF AFFORDABILITY [01:19:13] OF HEALTH CARE AND THE ITEMS AND [01:19:17] SERVICES PEOPLE NEED TO STAY HEALTHY. [01:19:21] THAT IS WHAT THE DEMOCRATIC [01:19:23] FOCUS HAS BEEN ON IMPROVING [01:19:26] HEALTH CARE AFFORDABILITY AND [01:19:28] DRIVING THOSE COSTS DOWN SO THAT [01:19:31] EVEN WITH THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF REGULATION THAT SERVES TO [01:19:34] PROTECT YOU AND THE REST OF THE [01:19:37] PUBLIC FROM VARIOUS ILLNESSES [01:19:41] AND DISEASES WE ALL NEED TO PUT PROTECTED FROM ON AN ONGOING [01:19:45] BASIS, EVEN WITH THAT REGULATION [01:19:49] HEALTH CARE REMAINS AFFORDABLE AND ACCESSIBLE FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED IT. [01:19:52] THERE IS NO REASON THAT IN THIS [01:19:56] COUNTRY EVERYONE SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GET THE ACCESS TO THE [01:19:58] CARE THEY NEED AND BE ABLE TO [01:20:01] AFFORD BOTH TO DO THAT AND FEED [01:20:03] AND CLOTHE THEIR CHILDREN. [01:20:06] HOST: I WONDER WHAT YOU MAKE OF [01:20:09] TRUMP RX, THE PRESIDENT SITE [01:20:12] WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO AND LOOK AT [01:20:15] PRICING FOR PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. [01:20:18] THEY MADE DEALS WITH ABOUT 70 DIFFERENT COMPANIES TO TRY TO LOWER THE PRICES OF SOME [01:20:22] PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. THE PRESIDENT SAID HE WILL DO [01:20:26] GENERIC DRUGS NEXT. WHAT YOU MAKE OF THIS PROGRAM [01:20:30] THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE TARGETED TOWARDS THE AFFORDABILITY OF [01:20:33] PRESCRIPTION DRUG PRICES, SOMETHING THE LAST CALLER WAS TALKING ABOUT? [01:20:37] CALLER: I THINK THERE HAS BEEN [01:20:40] -- GUEST: I THINK THERE IS BEEN A LOT OF RHETORIC FROM THE WHITE [01:20:44] HOUSE ABOUT LOWERING PRESCRIPTION DRUG COSTS. I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE [01:20:48] DELIVERED ON ANY LOWERING OF DRUG COSTS. TRUMP RX IS A PORTAL PEOPLE CAN [01:20:52] GO TO TO ACCESS DISCOUNTS [01:20:54] ALREADY AVAILABLE OUT THERE. [01:20:57] AND THAT WAY MAYBE IT ORGANIZES SOME OF THE DISCOUNTS AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE. [01:21:01] WE JUST ALL REPORTING FROM GOOD [01:21:04] RX THE OTHER DAY THAT IT HAS NOT [01:21:07] IMPACTED OR BROUGHT DOWN PRICES [01:21:10] FOR PEOPLE USING IT OTHER THAN [01:21:13] WHAT ALREADY EXISTS OUT THERE. I THINK WE HAVE SEEN A LOT OF [01:21:17] RHETORIC AND A LOT OF BACKROOM DEALS WITH PHARMACEUTICAL MANUFACTURERS. [01:21:21] I AM NOT SURE THEY HAVE DELIVERED LOWER COSTS ON DRUGS [01:21:25] FOR ANY PARTICULAR SEGMENT OF PEOPLE. HOST: RONALD FROM NORTH [01:21:29] CAROLINA. [01:21:30] REPUBLICAN. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [01:21:35] MY COMMENT IS WE HAVE A LOT OF DOCTORS GOING IN -- [01:21:37] HOST: COULD I HAVE YOU MEET YOUR [01:21:41] TV FOR ME REAL QUICK? [01:21:42] CALLER: YES. [01:21:46] HOW IS THAT? HOST: PERFECT. [01:21:50] CALLER: MY COMMENT IS A LOT OF [01:21:54] DOCTORS GO TO SCHOOL TOGETHER AND WHEN THEY GET IN BUSINESS [01:21:57] THEY WORK WITH ONE ANOTHER AND THEY TELL ONE ANOTHER I HAVE A [01:22:01] MAN THAT NEEDS THIS DONE TO HIM AND YOU CAN MAKE MONEY DOING [01:22:03] THIS. [01:22:06] THEN THE DOCTORS GET TOGETHER AND IT IS FRAUD. [01:22:09] THEY DO A TEST ON SOMEBODY AND [01:22:11] IT IS 100,000 OR SOMETHING LIKE [01:22:14] THAT, THIS TEST OR THAT TEST, [01:22:17] $250,000, THAT IS FRAUD. [01:22:19] HOST: I WONDER IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR YVETTE WHEN IT [01:22:23] COMES TO FRAUD? CALLER: THEY NEED TO DO [01:22:27] SOMETHING ABOUT IT. [01:22:28] MY EDUCATION, THE NEED TO GET [01:22:33] DOWN ON THEIR KNEES AND GET GOD [01:22:35] IN THEIR LIVES AND BE SAVED. HOST: I WONDER IF YOU HAVE A [01:22:39] RESPONSE. GUEST: WE ARE TALKING ABOUT [01:22:42] FRAUD A LITTLE EARLIER. I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A SENSE [01:22:46] THAT THERE IS FRAUD THAT NEEDS [01:22:48] TO BE ADDRESSED IN THIS SYSTEM. [01:22:51] NOBODY SUPPORTS FRAUD. EVERYBODY WANTS TO SEE FRAUD [01:22:55] ROOTED OUT. WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE ACTUAL [01:22:58] FRAUDULENT ACTORS AND NOT USE [01:23:01] FRAUD AS AN EXCUSE TO CUT BENEFITS AND COVERAGE TO PEOPLE. [01:23:05] I TOTALLY AGREE WITH RONALD. [01:23:07] IF THERE IS FRAUD IN THE SYSTEM [01:23:10] AND THEIR PARTICULAR UNSCRUPULOUS PROVIDERS THAT ARE [01:23:12] PERPETRATING FRAUD WE HAVE TO [01:23:15] ROUTE THAT OUT AND IDENTIFY IT. [01:23:19] WE ARE NOW USING THE ADMINISTRATION IS USING FRAUD AS [01:23:22] A PRETEXT FOR CUTTING PEOPLE OFF [01:23:26] INSURANCE, CUTTING BENEFITS TO PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY HOMECARE, [01:23:30] THINGS LIKE CAREGIVERS, PEOPLE WHO WANT TO STAY AT HOME FOR [01:23:34] THEIR LONG-TERM CARE ARE BEING SIGNIFICANTLY AFFECTED BY THIS. [01:23:37] THAT IS SOMETHING WE CANNOT ALLOW. [01:23:40] WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE FOCUSED ON THE RIGHT PERPETRATORS. [01:23:44] HOST: CJ FROM NEW YORK, A [01:23:48] DEMOCRAT. THE MORNING. [01:23:49] CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [01:23:59] MY EMPHASIS ON THIS TOPIC IS THE [01:24:04] MESSAGING -- I AM A HUGE [01:24:10] BELIEVER IN UNIVERSAL HEALTH [01:24:12] CARE. [01:24:16] IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A SOCIETY THAT CARES ABOUT THAT YOU ARE [01:24:20] PRETTY MUCH LOST. [01:24:22] THE MAIN THING IS WHY SHOULD WE [01:24:31] IN A CAPITALIST SYSTEM WANT TO [01:24:36] GIVE AWAY HEALTH CARE TO ALL OF [01:24:41] THESE LAZY PEOPLE WHO DO NOT EAT RIGHT OR DO NOT PROBABLY HAVE A [01:24:45] JOB, WHATEVER. [01:24:49] THE REASON IS BECAUSE SO MANY [01:24:53] AMERICANS ARE IN DEAD-END JOBS [01:24:59] IN THE GOVERNMENT OR BIG [01:25:01] CORPORATIONS OR A SMALL COMPANY. [01:25:04] IF THEY KNEW THEY COULD FINALLY [01:25:07] GET RID OF THOSE SO-CALLED [01:25:10] GOLDEN HANDCUFFS AND GO OFF AND [01:25:13] DO SOMETHING ON THEIR OWN, USE [01:25:17] THE DONALD TRUMP ARGUMENT [01:25:19] AGAINST HIM. [01:25:23] IF YOU ARE A DOGE BELIEVER, I AM [01:25:27] DOWN WITH THAT. AS LONG AS I HAVE HEALTH CARE, [01:25:31] LET ME GO AND TRY TO START MY [01:25:37] OWN ROCKET COMPANY. [01:25:39] HOST: LET'S LET YVETTE RESPOND [01:25:43] TO THAT. GUEST: IS A GREAT POINT. [01:25:48] PART OF THE REASON THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT WAS PASSED WAS TO ADDRESS WHAT THE CALLER [01:25:51] IS TALKING ABOUT WHICH IS JOB [01:25:53] LOCK, THE IDEA THAT PEOPLE FEEL LOCKED INTO THEIR CURRENT JOBS [01:25:57] IF THEY ARE GETTING HEALTH INSURANCE COVERAGE AND THERE WAS NOWHERE TO GO PRIOR TO THE [01:26:01] PASSAGE OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. [01:26:04] IF YOU DO NOT GET COVERAGE FROM [01:26:06] YOUR EMPLOYER OR WERE ON [01:26:09] MEDICARE. [01:26:11] IT ENABLED FOLKS TO WALK AWAY FROM THAT JOB, NO THEY COULD GET [01:26:14] COVERAGE THROUGH A MARKETPLACE AND START THEIR OWN BUSINESS. [01:26:18] SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS ARE THE DRIVER OF THE ECONOMY. [01:26:20] I AGREE WITH THAT. THIS IS WHERE SMALL BUSINESS [01:26:24] OWNERS GET THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE. THEY GET IT THROUGH THE [01:26:28] MARKETPLACE, THE FARMERS AND EARLY RETIREES, THEY GET IT [01:26:32] THROUGH THE MARKETPLACE AND THEY RELY ON THESE TAX CREDITS TO MAKE THAT COVERAGE AFFORDABLE SO [01:26:36] THEY CAN PAY THEIR PREMIUMS AND ACCESS THEIR DOCTORS AND THE [01:26:40] OTHER CARE THEY NEED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. [01:26:43] THAT IS WHY REINSTATING THE TAX [01:26:47] CREDITS THAT REPUBLICANS CUT IN THE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL IS SO [01:26:50] IMPORTANT TO ENSURING THAT THOSE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS CAN [01:26:54] CONTINUE TO AFFORD THE CARE THEY NEED TO KEEP THAT BUSINESS RUNNING. [01:26:58] OTHERWISE THERE IS NO WAY TO [01:27:02] HAVE THE FREEDOM TO START YOUR OWN BUSINESS AND BE PART OF THAT ECONOMIC DRIVER. [01:27:06] HOST: JOHN FROM PRINCETON, NEW [01:27:11] JERSEY. INDEPENDENT. [01:27:12] CALLER: IS A GREAT SUBJECT. [01:27:16] I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, FROM YOUR [01:27:19] POINT OF VIEW, WHAT COUNTRY IN [01:27:21] THE WHOLE WORLD HAVE BETTER [01:27:25] HEALTH CARE THAN THE U.S.? [01:27:29] THE U.S. IS PRETTY FAR DOWN THE LIST. [01:27:33] EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTRY BELIEVES WE ARE THE BEST COUNTRY [01:27:36] IN THE WORLD. WHY DON'T WE HAVE THE BEST [01:27:39] HEALTH CARE? [01:27:44] WHERE IS THE U.S. COMPARED TO [01:27:45] OTHER COUNTRIES. GUEST: IS A GREAT QUESTION. [01:27:49] THERE IS NO DOUBT THE U.S. DOES NOT GET THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT [01:27:53] WE SHOULD BE GETTING FOR HEALTH CARE DOLLARS. WE SPEND A LOT ON HEALTH CARE [01:27:57] AND WE DO NOT HAVE THE QUALITY OUTCOMES THAT SOME OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE. [01:28:01] WE DO NOT HAVE THE LEVELS OF [01:28:03] COVERAGE OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE. [01:28:08] WE DRIVE TECHNOLOGY INNOVATION. [01:28:11] WE ARE CUTTING EDGE IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT OF DEVICES AND [01:28:15] DRUGS. WE DO SUBSIDIZE THE REST OF THE [01:28:18] WORLD IN THAT REGARD. THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF [01:28:22] CONVERSATIONS AROUND THAT. WE CERTAINLY NEED TO IMPROVE THE [01:28:26] RETURN ON INVESTMENT WE ARE GETTING FOR OUR DOLLARS IN THIS COUNTRY. [01:28:30] YOU HAVE TO START THAT BY [01:28:32] IMPROVING AFFORDABILITY FOR [01:28:35] PEOPLE BUYING HEALTH CARE AND [01:28:40] EXPANDING COVERAGE IN THIS COUNTRY SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN [01:28:43] ACCESS THE SYSTEM AND STAY [01:28:47] HEALTHY AND START THEIR SMALL BUSINESS AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT COME WITH THE SECURITY OF [01:28:50] HEALTH COVERAGE. [01:28:52] YOU DID NOT DO THAT BY CUTTING $1 TRILLION OUT OF THE HEALTH [01:28:56] CARE SYSTEM IN ORDER TO GIVE TAX CUTS TO CORPORATIONS AND BILLIONAIRES. [01:29:00] HOST: YVETTE FONTENOT, SENIOR [01:29:05] POLICY PROVIDES OR PROTECT OUR CARE AND FORMER SENIOR OBAMA ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ON [01:29:09] HEALTH CARE. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS MORNING. GUEST: THANKS FOR HAVING ME. [01:29:13] HOST: LATER IN THE PROGRAM [01:29:16] MANHATTAN INSTITUTE FELLOW [01:29:18] RAFAEL MANGUAL DISCUSSES [01:29:23] PRESIDENT TRUMP'S CRACKDOWN ON [01:29:24] VIOLENT CRIME. BUT FORCED MARK WALLACE, CEO OF [01:29:28] THE ORGANIZATION UNITED AGAINST NUCLEAR IRAN DISCUSSES THE [01:29:31] FUTURE OF IRAN'S NUCLEAR PROGRAM AS THE U.S. WAR WITH IRAN [01:29:35] CONTINUES. STAY WITH US. [01:29:40] >> YOU ARE WATCHING C-SPAN. [01:29:45] DEMOCRACY UNFILTERED. [01:29:48] >> C-SPAN BRINGS YOU DEMOCRACY [01:29:52] UNFILTERED IN REAL TIME. DEMOCRACY DOES NOT TAKE SIDES. [01:29:56] NEITHER DOES C-SPAN. [01:29:58] IN A WORLD FULL OF OPINIONS, [01:30:02] C-SPAN GIVES YOU DIRECT ACCESS TO THE PEOPLE AND INSTITUTIONS [01:30:04] THAT SHAPE OUR NATION. UNFILTERED COVERAGE OF CONGRESS [01:30:08] AS LAWS ARE DEBATED AND DECIDED. LIVE PROCEEDINGS FROM THE SUPREME COURT. [01:30:12] PRESIDENTIAL SPEECHES. BRIEFINGS AND HISTORIC MOMENTS [01:30:16] AS THEY HAPPEN. NO COMMENTARY, NO SPIN, NO [01:30:20] AGENDA. JUST THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS [01:30:24] PRESENTED IN FULL WITHOUT INTERRUPTION SO YOU CAN WATCH THE DEBATES AND HEAR EVERY WORD AND MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND. 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HOST: JOINING US TO DISCUSS THE [01:31:28] LATEST WITH IRAN IS MARK WALLACE , CEO OF UNITED AGAINST NUCLEAR [01:31:32] IRAN. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. [01:31:35] I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO TELL US [01:31:37] ABOUT YOUR ORGANIZATION, UNITED AGAINST A NUCLEAR IRAN WHAT THE [01:31:41] MISSION IS. [01:31:46] GUEST: WE WERE FOUNDED ABOUT 20 [01:31:50] YEARS AGO WITH SOME COLLEAGUES AND A VARIETY OF BIPARTISAN [01:31:54] EXPERTS AND THE THEORY WAS COULD WE USE ECONOMIC PRESSURE AND INFORMATIONAL PRESSURE TO CHANGE [01:31:58] THE WAY IRAN BEHAVES IN THE [01:32:01] REGION. THERE WAS NO SUCH THING AS [01:32:04] MAXIMUM PRESSURE BACK THEN, [01:32:06] THERE WAS NO SUCH THING AS A [01:32:09] EUPHEMISM. ECONOMIC WAR BACK THEN. [01:32:12] UNITED AGAINST NUCLEAR IRAN HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 20 YEARS OR SO [01:32:16] AND WE HAVE BEEN THE LEADERS WORKING WITH OUR GOVERNMENT AND [01:32:19] GOVERNMENTS AROUND THE WORLD AND COLLEAGUES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES AND EUROPE IN THE MIDDLE [01:32:23] EAST TO PUT MAXIMUM PRESSURE ON IRAN AND TO BE AUTHORITATIVE [01:32:27] POLICY PEOPLE ON IRAN. WE HAVE A WONDERFUL LIST OF [01:32:31] ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS AND INCREDIBLY DISTINGUISHED [01:32:35] COLLEAGUES. WE THINK WE ARE SOME OF THE BEST [01:32:39] IN THE BUSINESS. THERE ARE SOME GREAT PEOPLE IN THIS FIELD. [01:32:43] HOST: YOU ARE A FORMER [01:32:48] AMBASSADOR FOR YOU AND MANAGEMENT REFORM IN THE GEORGE W. BUSH ADMINISTRATION. [01:32:52] SINCE UNITED AGAINST NUCLEAR IRAN HAS BEEN AROUND YOU HAVE [01:32:56] SEEN TWO DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATIONS, THE OBAMA [01:33:00] ADMINISTRATION AND THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TRY TO TACKLE THE ISSUE OF IRAN, FIRST WITH [01:33:03] PRESIDENT TRUMP. DO YOU SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT'S [01:33:07] DECISION TO LAUNCH A MILITARY OPERATION IN IRAN IN ORDER TO [01:33:10] STOP THEM FROM HAVING A NUCLEAR [01:33:14] WEAPON, WHAT HE NOW SAYS IS THE [01:33:17] STATED GOAL OF THE WAR? GUEST: WE HAVE HAD THE PRIVILEGE [01:33:21] OF WORKING WITH EACH PRESIDENT SINCE OUR FOUNDING. I WORKED FOR PRESIDENT BUSH. [01:33:25] WE HAVE WORKED WITH EVERY SUCCESSIVE ADMINISTRATION FROM [01:33:29] PRESIDENT OBAMA, PRESIDENT [01:33:31] TRUMP, PRESIDENT BIDEN, NOW PRESIDENT AGAIN AS THE EXPERTS [01:33:35] ON BUILDING THE POLICIES OF MAXIMUM PRESSURE WHICH HAS BEEN [01:33:38] AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT IN THE IRAN [01:33:40] FILE. IN TERMS OF PRESIDENT TRUMP'S [01:33:44] DECISION TO STRIKE IRAN, WE DID [01:33:46] SUPPORT THIS. [01:33:49] THERE WAS A CRITICAL MOMENT WHERE ULTIMATELY WE WERE ALWAYS [01:33:52] THE ECONOMIC PRESSURE PEOPLE. [01:33:55] IT BECAME CRITICAL BETWEEN IRAN'S INCREDIBLE BUILDING OF A [01:33:58] BALLISTIC MISSILE PROGRAM, ITS AMOUNT OF HIGHLY ENRICHED [01:34:02] FISSILE MATERIAL IT HAD COME ITS [01:34:05] DESTABILIZING PROXIES, AND A POTENTIAL CHANGE IN THE [01:34:09] AYATOLLAH THAT IT WAS A VERY VOLATILE MOMENT. [01:34:12] AT SOME POINT THE COST OF STRIKING WOULD HAVE BEEN TOO [01:34:16] HIGH AND IRAN WAS NEVER MEANINGFULLY AND NEVER HAD [01:34:20] MEANINGFULLY -- IN MY OPINION -- COME TO THE TABLE TO TRY TO [01:34:23] RENOUNCE ITS NUCLEAR PROGRAM. ALTHOUGH WE WERE THE ECONOMIC [01:34:27] PRESSURE PEOPLE WE SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT'S EFFORTS IN STRIKING [01:34:30] IRAN INTEGRATING ITS NUCLEAR PROGRAM, BALLISTIC MISSILE [01:34:34] PROGRAM, AND THEIR PROXIES ACROSS THE REGION. HOST: YOU SAID THERE WAS A [01:34:38] PIVOTAL MOMENT FOR THIS ADMINISTRATION BUT CRITICS SAY THIS THEY WERE CHOICE. [01:34:42] DO YOU AGREE? GUEST: I DON'T THINK IT IS A WAR [01:34:46] OF CHOICE. [01:34:48] WE PERHAPS TOO IDEALISTICALLY [01:34:51] MEAN WE COULD USE TO PEN AND INK PRESSURE CAMPAIGNS LIKE ECONOMIC [01:34:55] PRESSURE CAMPAIGNS TO CHANGE THE BEHAVIOR OF IRAN. THE NATURE OF WARFARE IN THE [01:34:59] MODERN ERA HAS CHANGED. [01:35:00] IT IS NO LONGER SEA, AIR, AND [01:35:06] LAND. YOU HAVE ECONOMIC, YOU HAVE [01:35:10] CYBER. WE HAVE OUR NICHE. [01:35:14] WE THOUGHT WE COULD DO IT ON OUR OWN. I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO IT ON OUR OWN BUT ECONOMIC PRESSURE [01:35:18] WAS A KEY ELEMENT. [01:35:20] THERE BECAME A CRITICAL MOMENT WHEN IRAN'S STOCKPILES OF NEARLY [01:35:24] 1000 POUNDS OF HIGHLY ENRICHED [01:35:28] URANIUM, GROWING BALLISTIC MISSILE PROGRAM MADE IT INCREASINGLY UNTENABLE TO TAKE [01:35:31] OUT THAT PROGRAM UNLESS ONE [01:35:34] ACTED QUICKLY. [01:35:36] I THINK THE INTEL SUPPORTED THAT IN PRESIDENT TRUMP'S DECISION TO [01:35:40] ACT WAS CORRECT AND DECISIVE. THAT IS COMING FROM SOMEONE THAT [01:35:44] HAS WORKED IN A BIPARTISAN MANNER WITH EACH OF THE [01:35:48] PRESIDENTS FROM PRESIDENT BUSH FORWARD. [01:35:50] HOST: NOW WE ARE SIX MONTHS INTO THE WAR THAT STARTED AT THE END [01:35:54] OF FEBRUARY. THE ADMINISTRATION HAS SAID THEY [01:35:58] HAVE DEGRADED THEIR ABILITY TO [01:36:00] LAUNCH MISSILES, THERE NAVY. [01:36:05] WHAT FROM YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS HAPPENING ON THE GROUND, [01:36:07] WHAT HAS HAPPENED. [01:36:11] WORTHY STRIKES THE ADMINISTRATION HAS LAUNCHED -- [01:36:14] AND CONTENT -- WERE THESE [01:36:17] STRIKES THE ADMINISTRATION HAS LAUNCHED AND CONTINUES TO DO SO [01:36:21] -- WHERE THE STRIKES EFFECTIVE? [01:36:22] GUEST: I CERTAINLY THINK WE [01:36:26] SHOULD BE CELEBRATING OUR [01:36:27] MILITARY AND ITS PROWESS AND [01:36:31] ASSOCIATED FORCES AND INTEL COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY HAVE DONE AN EXTRAORDINARY JOB [01:36:35] DRAMATICALLY DEGRADING IRAN'S NUCLEAR PROGRAM, DRAMATICALLY [01:36:38] DEGRADING ITS MISSILE PROGRAM, DEGRADING ITS AIR AND MILITARY [01:36:42] APPARATUS, ITS LEADERSHIP, AND [01:36:45] CONTRIBUTING TO THE DEGRADING OF [01:36:47] ITS PROXIES ALONG WITH ISRAEL. THE UNITED STATES HAS BEEN QUITE [01:36:51] SUCCESSFUL IN THIS. [01:36:53] I RAN HAS USED LEVERAGE POINTS. [01:36:57] THE BIG ONE WAS THE PURSUIT OF A [01:37:00] NUCLEAR WEAPON AND GETTING CLOSER AND CLOSER TO ESTABLISH [01:37:02] REGIONAL HEGEMONY TO ALLOW IT TO [01:37:05] ENGAGE IN SUPPORT OF TERROR PROXIES ENGAGING IN TERROR ACTIVITIES AROUND THE WORLD, [01:37:09] EVEN ON U.S. SOIL. [01:37:12] DESTABILIZING THE REASON. [01:37:15] IT USES LEVERAGE OF PROXIES, USES LEVERAGE OF BALLISTIC MISSILES. [01:37:19] YOU SEE ALL OF THOSE POINTS OF LEVERAGE DEGRADED. [01:37:23] NOW IT IS SEEKING TO USE THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ AS IT'S PERHAPS [01:37:26] LAST LEVERAGE POINT. YOU'RE SAYING WITH EVERY PASSING [01:37:30] DAY IS ECONOMIC PRESSURE MOUNTS ON THE REGIME AND OUR ALLIES [01:37:34] THROUGHOUT THE REGION SUCCESSFULLY DIVERTING HYDROCARBONS AWAY FROM THAT [01:37:38] STRAIT AND THE SEEPAGE OF OIL [01:37:41] THROUGH THE STRAIT THAT IRAN IS [01:37:45] LOSING SLOWLY BUT SURELY THE LEVERAGE OF THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ [01:37:49] IN MY OPINION. HOST: WHAT MORE DO YOU BELIEVE [01:37:52] IS NEEDED SIX MONTHS IN? [01:37:54] DO YOU WANT TO SEE MORE STRIKES? BOOTS ON THE GROUND? [01:37:58] WHAT IS NEEDED TO BRING THIS WAR TO A CLOSE, REMEMBERING THAT THE [01:38:02] PRESIDENT SAID THIS WOULD ONLY LAST FOUR TO SIX WEEKS INITIALLY? [01:38:06] GUEST: I THINK WE HAVE TO BE A [01:38:09] LITTLE BIT CAREFUL ABOUT OUR [01:38:11] LANGUAGE ABOUT THIS. [01:38:14] NOBODY LIKES CONFLICT OR WAR. [01:38:16] WE WERE FOUNDED ON THE PREMISE [01:38:19] OF USING ECONOMIC PRESSURE TO AVOID WARS. [01:38:22] WE HAVE NEVER SUPPORTED STRIKES ON IRAN UNTIL MORE RECENTLY WHEN [01:38:26] THEY CROSSED THE RUBICON OF A POINT OF NO RETURN. [01:38:29] I DON'T THINK WE ARE IN A [01:38:32] TYPICAL ACTIVE ENGAGEMENT OF A [01:38:35] GROUND TROOP OR IN ANY RESPECT. WE HAVE A MILITARY PRESENCE IN [01:38:39] THE REGION THAT IS GREATER BUT NOT THAT SIGNIFICANTLY GREATER [01:38:43] THEN WE HAD WHEN THERE WAS A CONFLICT WITH IRAN. [01:38:47] IRAN IS SIGNIFICANTLY DEGRADED. THEY DO NOT HAVE THE CAPABILITY [01:38:51] OF HARMING US THAT GREATLY. [01:38:52] I EMPATHIZE WITH OUR ALLIES LIKE [01:38:56] BAHRAIN AND THE UAE AND SAUDI ARABIA AND JORDAN. [01:38:59] THE THREATS TO THOSE COUNTRIES WERE OMNIPRESENT AND THAT IS ONE [01:39:02] OF THE REASON WE SEE ALL OF [01:39:04] THOSE ALLIES WERE QUITE ROBUST IN THEIR SUPPORT OF TAKING [01:39:08] ACTION AGAINST IRAN. [01:39:09] HOST: ARE YOU CONCERNED THE [01:39:13] ADMINISTRATION, DO TO ECONOMIC AND POLITICAL PRESSURE AT HOME, [01:39:17] WOULD SEEK TO END THE WAR WITHOUT SECURING A DEAL ON [01:39:20] IRAN'S NUCLEAR PROGRAM? [01:39:23] OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER THEY [01:39:26] CAN STRIKE PICKAX MATCH AND, WHETHER THE NUCLEAR MATERIAL [01:39:30] WOULD BE HANDED OVER, WHETHER IT IS TOO FAR BURIED FOR IRAN TO ACCESS IT. [01:39:34] I WONDER IN TERMS OF ENDING THE WAR ARE YOU CONCERNED IT COULD END WITH NO DEAL? [01:39:38] GUEST: THERE WAS AN EXPRESSION [01:39:41] WE USED DURING THE TIME OF THE JOINT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF [01:39:45] ACTION WHICH WAS THE OBAMA ERA NUCLEAR DEAL THAT WE BELIEVE NO [01:39:49] DEAL WAS BETTER THAN A BAD DEAL. [01:39:50] I THINK I RAN HAS NEVER BEEN [01:39:55] WILLING TO ENTER INTO A DEAL [01:40:00] THAT IS ALIGNED WITH PEACE AND THE STATUS QUO WITH UNITED [01:40:04] STATES AND ISRAEL. THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN HOSTILE. [01:40:08] THEY ARE LIKE A MAFIA LIKE THUGO [01:40:12] CRACY. [01:40:15] THE IRGC WHICH CONTROLS THE COUNTRY IS A MAFIA LIKE [01:40:18] ORGANIZATION. THE MOMENT THEY TRULY STRIKE A [01:40:22] DEAL WITH UNITED STATES AND TRY TO REJOIN THE COMMUNITY OF [01:40:25] NATIONS, THE MAFIA INFRASTRUCTURE IS LESS RELEVANT [01:40:28] AND CAN BECOME WEAKENED. [01:40:30] I DO NOT THINK IT WILL BE EASY IF AT ALL POSSIBLE TO STRIKE A [01:40:34] DEAL WITH THE LEADERS OF THAT [01:40:36] COUNTRY, THAT OLIGARCHY, THAT MAFIA BECAUSE I DO NOT THINK [01:40:40] THEY ARE CAPABLE OF DOING IT BECAUSE IT CONFLICTS WITH THEIR [01:40:44] ECONOMIC AND THEIR REGIONAL HEGEMONIC INTERESTS. [01:40:48] I THINK A BAD DEAL, WHICH WAS PERHAPS THE ONLY DEAL WE COULD [01:40:52] GET FROM THEM, IS MUCH WORSE THAN NO DEAL AT ALL. [01:40:55] THE STATUS QUO IS BETTER. [01:40:58] WITH EVERY PASSING DAY THE [01:41:00] STRAIT BECOMES LESS RELEVANT. [01:41:04] ECONOMIC PRESSURE ON THE REGIME AND THAT MAFIA IN IRAN INCREASES [01:41:08] DRAMATICALLY. THE BRAVE IRANIAN PEOPLE ARE [01:41:12] GROWING MORE AND MORE TIRED OF THIS REGIME. [01:41:14] HOST: DAVID FROM SACRAMENTO, [01:41:18] CALIFORNIA. A REPUBLICAN. YOU ARE ON THE LINE. [01:41:20] CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [01:41:23] MY QUESTION IS HOW COME WE ARE STILL PLAYING PATTYCAKE WITH [01:41:27] THEM? GUEST: I THINK WHAT YOU HAVE [01:41:31] SEEN -- IT IS AN INTERESTING TIME. [01:41:35] YOU SOUND LIKE YOU ARE OF THE AGE I AM REMEMBER SOME OF OUR OTHER CONFLICTS IN THE PAST [01:41:39] WHERE WE HAD VERY GOOD ANALYSIS [01:41:43] OF THE INCREDIBLE STRIKES OF OUR U.S. MILITARY. WHAT IS INTERESTING IS THERE HAS [01:41:47] NOT BEEN AS MUCH CLEAR INFORMATION COMING OUT ON THE [01:41:51] EFFECTIVENESS AND THE SCOPE AND EXTENT AND EFFECTIVENESS OF OUR STRIKES. [01:41:55] A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH TECHNOLOGY TODAY, SOCIAL MEDIA, [01:41:59] EVEN GOOGLE EARTH. KEEPING THAT INFORMATION CLOSE [01:42:03] AT HAND IS MORE PRUDENT IN THIS [01:42:06] INTEL SENSITIVE WORLD. [01:42:09] HAVING TALKED TO OUR INTEL COMMUNITY AND INTEL COMMUNITY OF [01:42:12] OTHER COUNTRIES, OUR MILITARY [01:42:15] AND THOSE IN THE KNOW, I AM VERY CONFIDENT THAT WE HAVE DONE MUCH [01:42:19] MORE THAN PATTYCAKE WITH THEM. WE HAVE HIT THEM QUITE HARD AS [01:42:23] PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS ALLUDED AND [01:42:26] DEGRADED THEIR CAPABILITIES ACROSS THEIR LEADERSHIP, CROSS [01:42:29] THEIR MISSILE CAPABILITIES, CROSS THEIR TERM CAPABILITIES. [01:42:33] EVEN THEIR PARAMILITARY ESTABLISHMENT WHICH IT HAS USED [01:42:37] TO SUPPRESS ITS PEOPLE, IT HAS BEEN DEGRADED. [01:42:41] FRANKLY, THE NUCLEAR PROGRAM RIGHT NOW IS BURIED UNDER TONS OF SAND. [01:42:45] THE ONLY WAY TO DEAL WITH HIGHLY [01:42:47] ENRICHED URANIUM IS TO REPROCESS [01:42:50] IT AND DILUTED OR FRANKLY BURY [01:42:52] IT IN THE GROUND. [01:42:55] RIGHT NOW IRAN'S NUCLEAR PROGRAM [01:42:57] IS SET BACK DRAMATICALLY AND [01:43:00] THERE IS NO WAY THEY CAN RECONSTITUTE IT WITHOUT US [01:43:03] KNOWING IT. [01:43:05] THIS IS THE FIRST TIME SINCE THE [01:43:08] EARLY 1980'S THAT IRAN IS NOT [01:43:10] ENRICHING URANIUM. EVERY PRESIDENT HAS BEEN [01:43:14] CONFRONTED WITH THIS ISSUE. [01:43:16] THIS PRESIDENT DESERVES CREDIT FOR ASSURING THAT IRAN IS NOT [01:43:20] CURRENTLY ENRICHING URANIUM. [01:43:21] HOST: HOMER FROM FLORENCE, [01:43:25] MASSACHUSETTS. [01:43:27] INDEPENDENT. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [01:43:30] I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT MAKES THIS A FOREVER WAR WHEN OBAMA [01:43:34] BOMBED LIBYA FOR SEVEN MONTHS IN 2011 AND THEN UNTIL THE END OF [01:43:38] HIS PRESIDENCY INTERMEDIATELY DID THAT DESTABILIZE THE REGION [01:43:42] #WHEN BIDEN CAME IN IT MUST NOT HAVE WORKED BECAUSE HE BOMBED [01:43:46] SYRIA AND LEBANON. OR OUR PATRIOT MISSILES DEPLETED [01:43:50] FOR THE THREE YEARS BIDEN WAS DOING THE UKRAINE THING? [01:43:54] DID WE MAKE THEM FASTER? [01:43:57] I'M WONDERING WHY THE DEMOCRATS ARE WILLING TO GIVE THE IRANIANS [01:44:00] 24 DAYS THEY WERE DELAYING INSPECTIONS OR NOT ALLOWING [01:44:03] THEM. THAT IS PLENTY OF TIME BUT THEY [01:44:06] WOULD NOT GIVE THE REPUBLICANS 24 HOURS TO MAKE SURE THE ICE [01:44:09] FACILITY WAS SAFE. [01:44:12] IT IS PRETTY FUNNY THEY TRUSTED TERRORISTS MORE THAN THEY TRUST THE REPUBLICANS. [01:44:16] THEY GIVE THEM 24 DAYS. [01:44:20] HOST: HOMER, THAT IS A LOT FOR [01:44:24] MARK TO RESPOND TO. [01:44:25] GUEST: THE BIG ASPECT TO THAT [01:44:29] QUESTION IS THIS NOTION OF FOREVER WAR. I AM IN THE BUSINESS OF THE [01:44:33] POLICY OF BEING AN EXPERT ON THIS BUT MAKING IT INTELLECTUALLY ACCESSIBLE TO [01:44:37] PEOPLE WHY IT IS NECESSARY TO HAVE THE POLICIES WE DO. [01:44:41] WE ARE ADVOCATING FOR POLICIES WE SHOULD HAVE. THE FOREVER WAR THAT HAS BEEN [01:44:45] CONDUCTED ACROSS THE REGION FOR [01:44:47] THE LAST NEARLY 40 YEARS HAS [01:44:50] BEEN IRAN WITH ITS SUPPORT OF PROXIES, IT'S DESTABILIZING OF [01:44:53] THE REGION, IT'S RIDICULOUS AND [01:44:57] INAPPROPRIATE AND OBVIOUSLY MILITARY BASED PURSUIT OF A NUCLEAR WEAPON. [01:45:01] IRAN HAS BEEN IN A FOREVER WAR WITH UNITED STATES. [01:45:04] WE HAVE TRIED TO USE ALL THE [01:45:06] TOOLS IN THE TOOL SHED TO END [01:45:12] THAT WAR FROM DIPLOMACY TO ECONOMIC PRESSURE TO CYBER [01:45:15] OPERATIONS IN THIS PRESIDENT FINALLY SAID WE WILL USE MILITARY STRIKES TO DEGRADE [01:45:19] IRAN'S CAPABILITY BEFORE IT GETS [01:45:21] TOO GREAT AT THIS PRESIDENT HAS [01:45:24] SUCCESSFULLY DONE THAT. I DO NOT THINK THIS IS A FOREVER [01:45:28] WAR THAT SOMEHOW WE STARTED. I THINK THIS IS AN EFFORT TO END [01:45:32] THE FOREVER WAR THAT IS IRAN AND TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NO LONGER -- [01:45:36] WE WILL NOT BE FIGHTING IRAN TOMORROW WITH A NUCLEAR WEAPON [01:45:40] AND BALLISTIC MISSILES CAPABLE OF CARRYING THOSE NUCLEAR WEAPONS AND STRIKING AMERICA OR [01:45:44] AMERICAN INTERESTS OR OUR [01:45:47] EUROPEAN OR MIDDLE EAST ALLIES. HOST: MARTHA FROM INDIANA, [01:45:52] PENNSYLVANIA. A DEMOCRAT. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [01:45:56] I HAVE THREE QUESTIONS. QUESTION ONE, THIS DEATH TO [01:46:00] AMERICA CHANCE GOING ON FOR 40 [01:46:02] SOME YEARS, IF THIS DEATH TO [01:46:07] AMERICA SO SERIOUS, WHY WASN'T [01:46:11] ANYBODY IN THE REAGAN ADMINISTRATION TRIED FOR TREASON [01:46:14] OVER THE IRAN-CONTRA AFFAIR? QUESTION TWO. [01:46:18] WE HAVE A $1 TRILLION DEFENSE BUDGET. [01:46:22] THE GREATEST MILITARY THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN. [01:46:24] YET SOMEHOW A NUCLEAR IRAN WOULD [01:46:28] BE FISH IN A BARREL? [01:46:31] WOULD BE LIKE A THIRD WORLD ISLAND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE OCEAN? [01:46:35] HOW IS IT THAT WE HAVE THE GREATEST MILITARY BUT SOMEHOW IT [01:46:38] WOULD BE FISH IN A BARREL? [01:46:41] QUESTION NUMBER THREE. WHEN ARE WE GOING TO LEARN THAT [01:46:45] BOMBING, KILLING, DESTROYING, [01:46:49] TRYING TO CHANGE A COUNTRY'S IDEOLOGY BY FORCE IS NOT GOING [01:46:53] TO WORK? [01:46:57] WHEN YOU TRY TO CHANGE IN IDEOLOGY BY PHYSICAL FORCE, [01:47:00] BOMBING AND KILLING, I BELIEVE [01:47:03] YOU ENTRENCH THEIR BELIEFS. [01:47:07] A PERFECT EXAMPLE IS OUR OWN [01:47:10] CIVIL WAR. HOST: THAT IS A LOT OF [01:47:13] QUESTIONS. LET'S LET MARK GIVE HIS ANSWERS. [01:47:17] GUEST: YOU RAISE THE REAGAN [01:47:21] ADMINISTRATION AND YOU ARE RIGHT. THE IRANIAN THREAT GOES BACK TO [01:47:25] THE TIME OF CARTER AND REAGAN. [01:47:29] THE IRANIANS HAVE BEEN KILLING AMERICANS AND OUR ALLIES SINCE THAT TIME. [01:47:32] I GO BACK TO 1983, THE MARINE [01:47:36] BARRACKS BOMBING IN LEBANON DURING THE REAGAN ADMINISTRATION. [01:47:39] THE USS COLE. EVEN AS RECENTLY OVER THE LAST [01:47:43] COUPLE YEARS, IRAN HAS BEEN [01:47:45] RUNNING ASSASSINATION, KIDNAP, AND TORTURE ATTEMPTS ON U.S. [01:47:49] SOIL AGAINST AMERICANS. [01:47:52] IRAN HAS BEEN ENGAGING IN THIS INCREDIBLY MALIGNED TERRORISTIC [01:47:56] BEHAVIOR THAT HAS BEEN SERIOUSLY DEGRADED SINCE THAT TIME. [01:47:59] OUR MILITARY HAS DONE INCREDIBLE [01:48:03] WORK. [01:48:06] I KNOW WE LIVE IN A HIGHLY CHARGED POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT. [01:48:11] MY FRIEND DAVID AXELROD SAID EVERY PRESIDENT IS REACTION TO [01:48:14] THE LAST. THE PARTY NOT IN POWER HAS A [01:48:18] HARD TIME ACCEPTING ANYTHING GOOD ON THE OCCUPANT OF THE WHITE HOUSE. [01:48:22] I WILL NOT GET INTO ALL OF THE POLITICAL DEBATES OF TODAY BUT I [01:48:26] WILL TELL YOU THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP AND HIS TEAM AND MOST [01:48:29] IMPORTANTLY OUR MILITARY HAVE PERFORMED IN AN INCREDIBLY [01:48:33] SUCCESSFUL MANNER INTEGRATING [01:48:36] IRAN'S CAPABILITIES ACROSS THE BOARD. I CANNOT REMEMBER WHAT THE THIRD [01:48:40] ONE WAS. [01:48:44] HOST: THE THIRD WAS WHEN ARE WE [01:48:47] GOING TO LEARN THAT CHANGING A COUNTRY BY FORCE HARDENS THEIR [01:48:50] IDEOLOGY? GUEST: EVERY PRESIDENT IN MY [01:48:53] LIFETIME HAS OF THE POLICY OF REGIME CHANGE AGAINST IRAN [01:48:56] BECAUSE THEY HAVE MEANT DEATH TO AMERICA AND DEATH TO ISRAEL. [01:49:00] THEY ARE NOT KIDDING. I DON'T THINK THIS ACTION IS AN [01:49:04] ATTEMPT TO CHANGE IDEOLOGY. THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OF A [01:49:08] TALKING POINT THAT MARTHA IS [01:49:11] HEARING IN SOME QUARTERS OF THE PRESS. WHAT THE PRESIDENT AND OUR [01:49:15] MILITARY ARE DOING IS DEGRADING [01:49:17] REAL THREATS THAT THE REGIME HAS [01:49:21] USED AS LEVERAGE POINTS TO THREATEN THE UNITED STATES, OUR [01:49:25] ALLIES COME INTO ESTABLISH REGIONAL HEGEMONY AND PREVENT A [01:49:28] MUCH MORE TO REMOTE -- AND [01:49:32] PREVENT A MUCH MORE TERRIBLE WAR IF IRAN GOT A NUCLEAR WEAPON. [01:49:36] I DO NOT BELIEVE WE ARE TRYING TO CHANGE THE IDEOLOGY. [01:49:40] WHAT I BE HAPPY OF THE REGIME FELL? ABSOLUTELY. [01:49:44] THE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN OF IRAN [01:49:47] WHO ARE WHOLLY OPPOSED TO THIS REGIME AND HAVE SACRIFICED [01:49:51] 40,000 OF THEIR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN THIS YEAR ALONE TO [01:49:54] FIGHT THIS REGIME WILL BE THE [01:49:57] ONES ULTIMATELY, PROBABLY AT [01:49:59] GREAT COST OF LIFE, ULTIMATELY REMOVING THIS REGIME. [01:50:03] THIS REGIME WILL FALL SOMEDAY. [01:50:05] HOST: SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED [01:50:08] RECENTLY IS IRAN, IN THE MIDST OF NEGOTIATION OVER WHETHER THEY [01:50:11] WOULD OBTAIN A BIT MORE CONTROL IN THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ, SHARING [01:50:15] IT WITH OMAN, DECIDED TO MAKE A [01:50:18] NEW ROUND OF OF DEMANDS WHEN IT [01:50:22] COMES TO THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ. [01:50:25] I AM LOOKING IN A POLITICAL ARTICLE, "IRAN MAKES DRAMATIC [01:50:29] NEW DEMANDS AROUND STRAIT OF HORMUZ." PART OF THE DEMAND ACCORDING TO [01:50:33] THE STATE PRESS IN IRAN SAYS THE UNITED STATES MUST NEVER [01:50:37] THREATEN IRAN AGAIN AND MUST PERMANENTLY END THE WAR WITH [01:50:41] IRAN AND ITS ARMED ALLIES IN THE REGION. [01:50:43] THE U.S. MUST LIVE THE NAVAL BLOCKADE OF IRANIAN POINTS AND [01:50:47] WITHDRAWS MILITARY FROM THE AREA [01:50:50] AND MUST COMPLETELY COMPENSATE IRAN FOR WAR DAMAGE, LIFT [01:50:54] SANCTIONS, AND UNCONDITIONALLY RELEASE FROZEN ASSETS. PRESIDENT TRUMP RESPONDED TO [01:50:58] THIS NEW LIST OF DEMANDS RECENTLY. I WANT TO TAKE A LISTEN TO WHAT HE HAD TO SAY. [01:51:02] [VIDEO CLIP] [01:51:03] >> YOU SAID THIS LAST ROUND OF [01:51:07] TALKS WAS IRAN'S LAST CHANCE BEFORE DECAPITATION. [01:51:10] WHAT NOW? >> YOU WILL FIND OUT. [01:51:12] >> A MASSIVE ESCALATION IS STILL [01:51:16] ON THE TABLE? >> WE CERTAINLY HAVE THE ABILITY [01:51:19] TO DO THAT. >> YOU SAID YOU ARE LOW KEYING [01:51:23] IT WITH THEM. [01:51:27] WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? [01:51:28] >> THEY ASKED FOR REPARATIONS [01:51:32] AND MONEY FOR THE DAMAGE WE HAVE DONE, I THOUGHT THAT IS A GOOD [01:51:34] IDEA, WE WILL ASK FOR MONEY FOR [01:51:38] THE DAMAGE THEY HAVE DONE OVER A 50 YEAR PERIOD, WHETHER YOU GO [01:51:40] USS COLE ARE ALL OF THE PEOPLE [01:51:43] THAT WERE BADLY WOUNDED AND KILLED, MANY THOUSANDS OF [01:51:46] PEOPLE, AND MAY BE DAMAGES FOR [01:51:48] THE 52,000 PROTESTERS WHO WERE KILLED IN IRAN. [01:51:52] WE THINK THERE FAMILY SHOULD GET DAMAGES FOR KILLING THEIR PERSON [01:51:56] OR THEIR CHILD OR MOTHER OR FATHER. THEY WERE PROTESTING. [01:52:00] IT WAS 52,000 A MONTH AND A HALF [01:52:03] AGO SO NOW WHAT IS IT? [01:52:05] IF THERE IS DAMAGES TO BE PAID I THINK IRAN SHOULD PAY THOSE DAMAGES. [01:52:09] HOST: A BIG TIT FOR TAT FROM THE [01:52:13] PRESIDENT. WHAT YOU MAKE OF THIS? [01:52:16] GUEST: WE ARE SITTING ON THE [01:52:18] EDGE OF OUR SEAT AT THESE [01:52:22] NEGOTIATIONS AS THERE IS A DEAL [01:52:24] IMMINENT, SOMETHING ABOUT TO HAPPEN. IRAN HAS ENGAGED IN THE SAME [01:52:28] TACTICS FOR YEARS, DECADES WHEN [01:52:30] IT COMES TO NEGOTIATIONS. [01:52:33] THEY OP YOU SKATE, THEY CONFUSE, [01:52:35] THEY ARE BUREAUCRATIC, THEY SAY IT IS UNCLEAR WHO THE [01:52:39] DECISION-MAKERS ARE. THEY COME BACK AND THERE IS [01:52:43] CONFUSION AND THEY MAKE MORE DEMANDS THEY LIE IS PART OF THEIR STRATEGY. [01:52:46] THERE IS NO DEAL THAT THE IRGC [01:52:51] COULD ACCEPT THAT ACCEPTS [01:52:53] AMERICAN AS SOME SORT OF [01:52:58] ACCEPTABLE COUNTERPARTY IN THE WORLD. I THOUGHT THE PRESIDENT'S [01:53:01] COMMENTS WERE SOME OF HIS BEST. [01:53:04] HE CLEARLY IS AWARE OF THE LONG [01:53:07] HISTORY OF IRAN ENGAGING IN [01:53:10] TERROR, VIOLENCE, THE KILLING OF [01:53:13] MORE AMERICANS THAN ALMOST [01:53:15] ANYBODY ELSE THIS CENTURY. [01:53:20] OUR ALLIES, CYBER ATTACKS. [01:53:24] I THINK HE IS QUITE AWARE AND HE DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF [01:53:28] ARTICULATING WHY IRAN'S MISCHIEF [01:53:31] AND MALIGN ACTIVITIES IS RIDICULOUS THEY ARE ASKING US [01:53:34] FOR REPARATIONS WHEN THEY HAVE [01:53:37] BEEN ENGAGING IN HOSTILE BEHAVIOR, BRUTAL BEHAVIOR, [01:53:41] SUPPORT OF TERROR AND THE LIGHT FOR OVER 47 YEARS. [01:53:44] HOST: STEPHEN FROM LEXINGTON. [01:53:49] AN INDEPENDENT. [01:53:50] CALLER: THANK YOU, JASMINE. [01:53:54] YOU'RE DOING GREAT AS A MODERATOR AND THANK YOU TO C-SPAN FOR ALL OF YOUR TIME AND EFFORT. [01:53:58] I THINK YOU ARE BEING DISINGENUOUS BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE A NARRATIVE. [01:54:02] YOU'VE NOT BROUGHT UP ONCE THE [01:54:06] MILITARY INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE DIED IN THESE OPERATIONS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. [01:54:10] YOU'VE NOT MENTIONED THAT ONCE. [01:54:14] I BELIEVE THESE NEGOTIATIONS ARE NOT ONGOING, THEY ARE JUST A TACTIC TO MANIPULATE OIL PRICES [01:54:17] UP AND DOWN. [01:54:20] THERE ARE NO NEGOTIATIONS. TO CHANT DEATH TO AMERICA, THEY [01:54:24] DON'T CARE ABOUT ME, THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU. [01:54:28] THEY CARE ABOUT THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT AND THE PEOPLE RUNNING THE GOVERNMENT. [01:54:32] THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT JOE SCHMOE. [01:54:35] IT IS NOT ABOUT US. [01:54:37] THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE THAT KILLED HUNDREDS OF SCHOOLGIRLS IN A [01:54:41] BUILDING, HUNDREDS OF CHILDREN. I THINK YOU HAVE A NARRATIVE AND [01:54:45] YOU ARE FOLLOWING SOME SORT OF [01:54:47] SCRIPT THAT KEEPS COMING ALONG WITH DIFFERENT CONSERVATIVE [01:54:51] MEDIA. I THINK YOU ARE BEING VERY DISINGENUOUS. [01:54:54] YOU CAN ADD ANY COMMENT. [01:54:56] HOST: -- GUEST: I CERTAINLY [01:55:01] AGREE WITH YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT JASMINE DOING A GREAT JOB MODERATING. [01:55:05] USUALLY IN THESE INTERVIEWS -- [01:55:08] I'VE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, WE HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE [01:55:12] SACRIFICE OF OUR BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE MADE THE ULTIMATE [01:55:16] SACRIFICE FOR OUR COUNTRIES. WE AT UNITED AGAINST NUCLEAR [01:55:19] IRAN HAVE BEEN VERY QUICK TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT SACRIFICE. [01:55:23] HAVING TALKED TO MANY OF OUR MILITARY LEADERS, THEY KNOW AND [01:55:27] THEY HAVE SEEN THE INCREDIBLE [01:55:29] CARNAGE IRAN HAS CAUSED TO THE UNITED STATES AND OUR ALLIES IN [01:55:33] THE REGION, INCLUDING DURING IRAQ AND OTHERWISE. [01:55:36] WITH RESPECT I THINK YOUR [01:55:40] ASSUMPTIONS ARE GILDED BY THE [01:55:43] POLITICS OF THE DAY. [01:55:46] SOMETIMES IT IS EASIER TO BLAME THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA [01:55:50] WHEN IN IRAN YOU ARE KILLED IF [01:55:54] YOU SHOW STRANDS OF HAIR, THEY [01:55:57] ARE BENT UPON DESTROYING ISRAEL, THEY ARE BENT UPON DEATH TO AMERICA. [01:56:01] IT IS NOT JUST OUR LEADERSHIP. [01:56:03] THEY TAKE HOSTAGES. [01:56:08] ORDINARY AMERICANS THAT TRAVEL, THEY KIDNAP THEM AT ANY TURN. [01:56:12] THEY RUN TERROR OPERATIONS TO KIDNAP AND KILL AMERICANS. THEY HAVE KILLED MORE AMERICANS [01:56:16] AND OUR ALLIES THAN ANYONE ELSE IN A CENTURY. [01:56:20] I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT YOUR CHARACTERIZATION IS ACCURATE. I THINK IT IS CAUGHT UP IN THE [01:56:24] POLITICAL NARRATIVE OF THAT. [01:56:28] TO BE CLEAR, I AM NOT IN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, I WAS NOT [01:56:32] IN THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. WE HAVE WORKED WITH EVERY [01:56:36] PRESIDENT CLOSELY INCLUDING PRESIDENT BIDEN, PRESIDENT OBAMA [01:56:40] , PRESIDENT TRUMP, AND OBVIOUSLY PRESIDENT BUSH BEFORE HIM. [01:56:44] SOMETIMES IF YOU WORK WITH EVERYONE I CANNOT PLEASE EVERYONE. [01:56:47] I UNDERSTAND FROM A POLITICAL BIAS THAT FEWER IS DISSATISFIED [01:56:51] BECAUSE OF PRESIDENT TRUMP'S POLITICS. [01:56:53] HOST: WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF [01:56:56] TIME. I WISH I COULD ASK YOU A MILLION [01:56:59] MORE QUESTIONS BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS MORNING. [01:57:02] MARK WALLACE, FORMER BUSH U.S. [01:57:06] AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED NATIONS AND CURRENTLY CEO OF UNITED AGAINST NUCLEAR IRAN. [01:57:10] THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING. GUEST: THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. [01:57:14] HOST: UP NEXT WE DIVE INTO THE [01:57:18] LATEST DATA ON VIOLENT CRIME ACROSS THE U.S. AND THE IMPACT [01:57:22] OF PRESIDENT TRUMP'S NATIONAL GUARD DEPLOYMENTS. [01:57:25] RAFAEL MANGUAL OF THE MANHATTAN [01:57:30] INSTITUTE JOINS US NEXT FOR THAT [01:57:31] DISCUSSION. ♪ [01:57:41] >> SUNDAY ON C-SPAN'S Q&A, TOUR [01:57:47] THE NEW YORK CITY OFFICE AND HOME LIBRARY OF PULITZER [01:57:51] PRIZE-WINNING BEST-SELLING BIOGRAPHER ROBERT CARO, WHO IS [01:57:54] CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE FINAL VOLUME OF HIS FIVE VOLUME [01:57:57] BIOGRAPHY OF LYNDON JOHNSON. HE TALKS ABOUT HIS RESEARCH AND [01:58:01] WRITING PROCESS ON THE LBJ SERIES. [01:58:03] >> THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT, THE [01:58:07] CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF IMMIGRATION [01:58:10] REFORM, HE DID IT ALL, AND THEN [01:58:13] HE DID VIETNAM, WHICH WAS JUST HORRIBLE. [01:58:17] >> IS VIETNAM THE HARDEST PART TO WRITE? [01:58:21] >> GOOD QUESTION. [01:58:26] YES. [01:58:30] I AM WRITING IT NOW. [01:58:39] IT IS REALLY DEPRESSING. >> BEST-SELLING BIOGRAPHER [01:58:43] ROBERT CARO SUNDAY NIGHT AT 8:00 [01:58:47] EASTERN ON C-SPAN'S Q&A. 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FIRST, REMIND OUR AUDIENCE WITH [02:00:10] THE MANHATTAN INSTITUTE IS, YOUR MISSION, AND WHO DOES IT WORK [02:00:14] WITH AND HOW IS IT FUNDED? [02:00:15] GUEST: THE MANHATTAN INSTITUTE [02:00:20] IS A 5013 C PUBLIC POLICY THINK TANK. [02:00:24] WE HAVE A FOCUS ON NEW YORK. I COVERED POLICING AND PUBLIC [02:00:28] SAFETY. AND THE INSTITUTE IS [02:00:32] PRIVATELY FUNDED. [02:00:33] HOST: YOU ARE ALSO A MEMBER OF [02:00:37] THE COUNCIL REPORT ON MIDYEAR [02:00:43] STATISTICS. PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS TOUTED HIS CRACKDOWN ON CRIME AS A REASON [02:00:46] FOR THE DROP IN CRIME ACROSS THE COUNTRY. I WONDER, WHAT DO YOU ALL MAKE [02:00:50] OF THAT REPORT? [02:00:51] GUEST: I THINK IT IS EXPECTED [02:00:55] THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS ALWAYS GOING TO TRY TO TAKE [02:00:58] CREDIT FOR THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN UNDER ITS WATCH. AND THERE ARE SOME GOOD THINGS [02:01:01] THEY HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO, [02:01:06] PARTICULARLY IN WASHINGTON, D.C. BUT I THINK ANYONE WHO LOOKS FOR [02:01:08] A SINGULAR REASON TO EXPLAIN A [02:01:12] BROAD NATIONAL TREND LIKE THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO COME UP [02:01:16] EMPTY. THESE ARE MULTIFACTORIAL PROBLEMS WITH LOTS OF DIFFERENT [02:01:19] FACTORS AND DIFFERENT POWERS. I THINK IT IS LARGELY A [02:01:23] COMBINATION OF A BUNCH OF THINGS, POLICY AND NOT POLICY [02:01:25] RELATED. HOST: TALK ABOUT THE REPORT. [02:01:30] WHICH CRIMES DID WE INCREASE, AND OVERALL HOW DOES IT COMPARE [02:01:34] TO THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF 2025? [02:01:36] GUEST: A SIGNIFICANT DECLINE. [02:01:41] HOMICIDE DROPS ARE MOST IMPRESSIVE. WE ARE ON TRACK TO SET A NEW RECORD IN THIS COUNTRY, WHICH IS [02:01:45] FANTASTIC. [02:01:48] NINE OF THE 13 CATEGORIES THEY TRACK OUR MOVING DOWNWARD. [02:01:52] WE DID SEE A BIG INCREASE IN [02:01:54] DRUG OFFENSES, WHICH IS CONCERNING. [02:01:57] BUT IT IS A REALLY POSITIVE TREND. [02:02:00] YOU ARE LOOKING AT CRIMES LIKE [02:02:03] ROBBERY, GONNA SOLD MOVING DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY. [02:02:07] ROBBERY ALSO, YOU DON'T SEE FELONY ASSAULT IN GENERAL MOVED [02:02:10] DOWN AS MUCH, WHICH IS CONCERNING, GIVEN THE BROADER [02:02:14] TRENDS POST-PANDEMIC OF HOW WE ARE NATIONALLY, SO PEOPLE ARE [02:02:18] SPENDING MORE TIME AT HOME ABOUT ONE HOUR AND 45 MINUTES A DAY [02:02:22] COMPARED TO PRE-PANDEMIC. PEOPLE ARE DRINKING LESS, [02:02:26] WORKING FROM HOME, REDUCING VICTIMIZATION, YET, WE STILL ARE [02:02:30] NOT YET SEEN A MASSIVE DECLINE IN FELONY ASSAULTS WHICH IS [02:02:34] CONCERNING BECAUSE IF YOU ADJUST FOR THE TIME WE ACTUALLY SPEND, [02:02:37] OR WE MIGHT BE VICTIMIZED, IT IS [02:02:41] HIGHER THAN BROAD NUMBERS WOULD SUGGEST. IT IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE CELEBRATED. [02:02:45] SOME OF THESE OTHER CATEGORY DECLINES WERE LESS SURPRISING [02:02:49] LIKE RESIDENTIAL BURGLARY DECLINES. HOMES ARE OCCUPIED AND THAT [02:02:53] RAISES THE CONCEPT -- THE TRANSACTION COST TO COMMITTING [02:02:56] THAT CRIME. HOST: YOU SAID THERE WASN'T A SINGULAR REASON FOR THE DROP IN [02:03:00] CRIME BUT WHAT ARE THE FACTORS? [02:03:03] WHAT ARE THE FACTORS LEADING TO [02:03:07] THIS DROP? GUEST: A BUNCH OF THINGS. [02:03:11] BEEN ON POLICY BUCKET, IT IS WHAT CRIMINOLOGISTS CALLED [02:03:15] ROUTINE ACTIVITIES. THE TIME YOU SPEND AT HOME, LESS [02:03:18] TIME YOU SPEND ON PUBLIC TRANSIT, RIDERSHIP LEVELS HAVE [02:03:22] NOT RECOVERED TO PRE-PANDEMIC. AMERICANS ARE CONSUMING ALCOHOL [02:03:26] LESS. WE ARE APPROACHING A NEW RECORD [02:03:30] IN TERMS OF ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION. [02:03:31] HOST: THEY SAY GEN Z DOESN'T [02:03:35] DRINK ALCOHOL. GUEST: THEY ARE NOT ATTENDING [02:03:38] NIGHT CLUBS. BAR ATTENDANCE IS DOWN. [02:03:40] THIS IS WHERE VIOLENT CRIME CATEGORIES TEND TO BE FOCUSED. [02:03:44] ON THE POLICY FRONT, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF MOVEMENT TO THE [02:03:48] RIGHT IN THIS COUNTRY, STATES LIKE TENNESSEE, LOUISIANA, [02:03:52] ROLLING BACK CRIMINAL JUSTICE [02:03:54] REFORMS, FLORIDA, TEXAS, AND [02:03:57] EVEN NEW YORK. YOU HAVE HAD A MASSIVE CHANGE [02:04:01] FROM 2014 THROUGH 2021, LOTS OF [02:04:04] REALLY SORT OF RADICAL [02:04:07] PROGRESSIVE PROSECUTORS TAKING WINS IN BIG CITIES. [02:04:11] AT ONE POINT IN THE COUNTRY, YOU [02:04:13] HAD ALMOST 70 MILLION AMERICANS [02:04:17] BECOME PUBLIC PROSECUTORS. [02:04:19] THAT NUMBER HAS GONE DOWN. LOS ANGELES, YOU HAD GEORGE GUS [02:04:23] COHEN. YOU HAD PAMELA PRICE RECALLED IN [02:04:26] OAKLAND. [02:04:31] MOST BE BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, MAKING A MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE [02:04:35] APPROACH. [02:04:41] SO YOU HAVE THAT, LIKE ATHENS, [02:04:45] GEORGIA, ANOTHER JURISDICTION. [02:04:50] THEY ARE ROLLING BACK TO ME REFORMS. [02:04:53] THEY ARE PUSHING THROUGH [02:04:56] STRIKES, MAKING IT EASIER TO JAIL PEOPLE PRETRIAL. [02:05:00] THE PRISON POPULATION HAS GONE [02:05:01] UP THE LAST YEARS. [02:05:05] POLICE DEPARTMENTS AROUND THE COUNTRY ARE REASSERTING [02:05:08] THEMSELVES. WE HAVE SEEN THE ARREST NUMBERS [02:05:12] GO BACK UP. NEW YORK CITY IS A GREAT EXAMPLE [02:05:15] OF THAT. WHEN THAT HAPPENS, CRIME STARTS TO COME DOWN. [02:05:19] THERE WERE A LOT OF BALLOT ISSUES IN THE 2024 CYCLE. [02:05:23] I THINK IT MIGHT BE PLAYING A ROLE HERE. [02:05:27] CALIFORNIA WITH PROPOSITION 46, RECRIMINALIZE A SUM OF THE DRUG [02:05:31] OFFENSES. OREGON, WHICH I'D RECRIMINALIZE [02:05:34] DRUG OFFENSES AND RECRIMINALIZE [02:05:37] THEM A COUPLE YEARS LATER IN 2024, AS WELL. [02:05:41] YOU HAD COLORADO SEEK THAT [02:05:44] BALLOT INITIATIVE. ARIZONA, FOR EXAMPLE, PEOPLE [02:05:48] ELIGIBLE FOR A TAX REBATE WHEN [02:05:51] THE POLICE FAILED TO CLEAR A HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT. [02:05:53] YOU HAD OTHER STATES BALLOT [02:05:57] INITIATIVES WITH NEW FUNDING FOR THE HIRING OF ADDITIONAL POLICE [02:06:01] OFFICERS, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE [02:06:02] JOINT TAX FORCES, THE NATIONAL [02:06:06] GUARD DEPLOYMENT, AND [02:06:07] IMMIGRATION DEPLOYMENT. HOST: I WANT TO INVITE OUR [02:06:12] VIEWERS TO JOIN IN ON THE [02:06:14] CONVERSATION. WE HAVE RAFAEL MANGUAL HERE, [02:06:17] MANHATTAN INSTITUTE, A NEW [02:06:23] COUNCIL ON CRIMINAL JUSTICE [02:06:25] REPORT FOR MIDYEAR CRIME TRENDS IN THE U.S. CITY AND ALSO TO [02:06:29] DISCUSS THE ADMINISTRATION EFFORTS TO BRING DOWN VIOLENT CRIME. I WILL REPEAT YOUR LINES. [02:06:33] REPUBLICANS, (202)-748-8001. [02:06:36] DEMOCRATS, (202)-748-8000. [02:06:40] INDEPENDENTS, (202)-748-8002. [02:06:44] YOU CAN ALSO REACH US BY TEXT [02:06:47] MESSAGE. THAT LINE IS (202)-748-8003. [02:06:50] OF COURSE, WE ARE ON SOCIALS [02:06:53] LIKE FACEBOOK AND C-SPAN. START CALLING IN NOW TO ASK [02:06:56] RAFAEL MANGUAL YOUR QUESTIONS [02:07:00] AND COMMENTS ON VIOLENT CRIME THAT YOU GUYS HAVE SHARED WITH [02:07:03] US BEFOREHAND. I WANT TO ASK, IN THIS TIME IN [02:07:08] WHICH PEOPLE HAVE DOUBTS ABOUT [02:07:10] DATA, ABOUT SURVEYS, ABOUT INFORMATION THEY ARE RECEIVING, [02:07:14] HOW CHALLENGING IS THE POINT ON [02:07:20] WHITE CRIME HAS INCREASED OR [02:07:23] DECREASED, AND THEN THE ACTUAL STATISTICS, HOW DO THEY ACTUALLY [02:07:27] GATHER THE DATA? GUEST: THE NATIONAL GOVERNMENT [02:07:31] SHIFTED AND HOW IT COLLECTED [02:07:33] DATA ON CRIME CATEGORIES BACK IN [02:07:36] 2019 WHEN THEY ADOPTED THE NATIONAL REPORTING SYSTEM. [02:07:40] THAT WAS A CHALLENGE IN PART BECAUSE OF THE TRANSACTION COST [02:07:44] THAT HAS DECLINED, ESPECIALLY FOR SMALLER DEPARTMENTS. [02:07:47] IN AMERICA, WE ARE DOWN [02:07:53] SIGNIFICANTLY. YOU HAD A LOT OF POLICE DEPARTMENTS SCALING TO REPORT [02:07:56] FULLY, AND THAT MADE IT DIFFICULT TO REALLY PUT A FINGER ON EXACTLY WITH WHAT THE [02:08:00] NATIONAL CRIME TRENDS LOOK LIKE. IN CERTAIN CRIME CATEGORIES LIKE [02:08:04] HOMICIDE IN PARTICULAR, IT IS [02:08:07] HARDER TO GET THOSE NUMBERS AND THEY ARE MUCH MORE RELIABLE. [02:08:11] AND USUALLY, IF YOU CAR GETS [02:08:15] STOLEN, YOU HAVE TO MAKE A POLICE REPORT TO COLLECT ON [02:08:19] INSURANCE MONEY. SO THAT IS FOR THE BROADER CRIME [02:08:23] TREND. BOTH MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, WHICH TELLS US THAT [02:08:27] AT THE VERY LEAST, THE DIRECTION OF THE TREND IS PROBABLY [02:08:31] CORRECT. AND YOU HAVE SOME JURISDICTIONS [02:08:34] LIKE WASHINGTON, D.C., WHO HAVE BEEN EMBROILED IN CONTROVERSIES, [02:08:38] PARTICULARLY FOR CRIMES LIKE [02:08:39] ROBBERY AND AGGRAVATED ASSAULT. HOST: THE ADMINISTRATION HAS [02:08:43] BEEN CHANGING THEIR CRIME STATISTICS ON THE WAY THE REPORT [02:08:46] THIS. FROM ILLINOIS, INDEPENDENT, GOOD MORNING, RICH. [02:08:50] CALLER: THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. [02:08:54] I WAS LISTENING TO THE LAST GUEST YOU HAD ON, TALKING ABOUT [02:08:58] THE WAR IN IRAN. SOME OF THE POINTS YOU BROUGHT [02:09:01] UP, PART OF MY ISSUE WITH HIS [02:09:07] SPIEL WAS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO AVOIDED SERVING [02:09:11] HIS COUNTRY IN THE MILITARY. YET, HE IS ALL GUNG HO -- [02:09:15] HOST: I'M GOING TO JUMP IN [02:09:19] BECAUSE WE CURRENTLY HAVE RAFAEL MANGUAL HERE TO TALK ABOUT [02:09:22] VIOLENT CRIME IN THE U.S. [02:09:24] I KNOW YOU'RE INTERESTED IN PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS BUT DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ABOUT THIS ONE [02:09:28] ON VIOLENT CRIME? CALLER: I DO, AND THIS IS THE TIE-IN. [02:09:32] ONE OF THE ISSUES ABOUT THIS [02:09:36] IRAN SITUATION, YOU KNOW, AND THEY ARE DEALING WITH THEIR [02:09:40] ISSUES, AND WE ARE GOING TO GO IN THERE AND TRY TO TELL THEM [02:09:43] ABOUT THEIR ISSUES, AND WE HAVE [02:09:45] THE SAME KIND OF ISSUES. [02:09:50] WE ARE ARRESTING PEOPLE -- ARE YOU THERE? HOST: GO AHEAD. [02:09:54] CALLER: WE ARE ARRESTING THESE [02:10:00] IN SEARCH OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, [02:10:01] WE ARE ARRESTING AMERICAN [02:10:05] CITIZENS, WE ARE DOING THE SAME KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE ARE [02:10:08] CRITICIZING OTHER NATIONS FOR. [02:10:11] YET, WE ARE DOING THEM. WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS [02:10:15] RELATIONSHIP TO WHY VIOLENT [02:10:18] CRIMES, WHY THERE ISN'T A SIGNIFICANT DROP, WELL, WE HAVE [02:10:21] THIS RHETORIC SAYING, YOU KNOW, [02:10:28] THIS RHETORIC OUT OF OUR WHITE HOUSE, YET, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE [02:10:32] ARE SAYING, WE DO ALL OF THIS STUFF AND NOW YOU ARE TRYING TO [02:10:35] REGULATE ME? [02:10:38] WHY WOULD YOU EXPECT THESE [02:10:40] VIOLENT CRIMES TO GO DOWN IF [02:10:44] THAT IS A WRITER IF YOU ARE SPEWING? [02:10:48] HOST: LET'S LET RAFAEL GET IN [02:10:49] THIS. GUEST: VIOLENT CRIMES DEFINITELY [02:10:53] -- ABSOLUTELY GOING DOWN, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. [02:10:57] IS THERE A QUESTION ABOUT DIFFERENT CRIME CATEGORIES? [02:11:01] I WOULD ALSO SAY THERE IS A CRITICAL ROLE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN [02:11:05] WHAT IS HAPPENING ON U.S. SOIL [02:11:09] AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN IRAN. [02:11:10] HOST: ROBERTA, CALIFORNIA, [02:11:16] DEMOCRAT. GOOD MORNING. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [02:11:18] I'VE TRAVELED IN D.C. A GREAT [02:11:23] DEAL THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, [02:11:24] AND I NEVER EVER FELT ANY FEAR. [02:11:31] THEY WERE EXPERIENCING A REDUCTION IN CRIME, AND I THINK THAT TREND IS CONTINUING. [02:11:35] ALSO, I WANT TO GIVE CREDIT TO [02:11:39] JANINE PASHA PYRO. [02:11:41] SHE WAS ABLE TO SAY TO TRUMP [02:11:50] THAT THE KING WEARS NO CLOTHES. [02:11:51] GUEST: I CERTAINLY THINK [02:11:56] WASHINGTON, D.C., IS ONE OF THE SUCCESS STORIES NATIONALLY ON THE CRIME FRONT. [02:11:59] THAT IS ONE OF THE AREAS WHERE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN TAKE [02:12:03] THE MOST CREDIT. OF COURSE, THE TERRITORY OF THE [02:12:08] FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS MORE OF A RELATIONSHIP IMPACT ON THE [02:12:12] STREETS OF D.C. HOST: ON THAT POINT, WE HAVE [02:12:14] SOMEONE COME WITH AMERICAN [02:12:19] PROGRESS ON WASHINGTON JOURNAL AND THEY DISCUSSED IN THE REPORT [02:12:22] , THE HEADLINE, THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATIONS 1.7 BILLION [02:12:26] DOLLAR NATIONAL GUARD DEPLOYMENT FAILED TO REDUCE URBAN CRIME. [02:12:29] IF PEOPLE WANT TO READ IT, THAT [02:12:32] IS AMERICAN PROGRESS, AND THEY [02:12:34] MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT DESPITE [02:12:37] THE NATIONAL GUARD PRESENCE IN D.C. AND OTHER STATES, THAT IT [02:12:40] HAS FAILED TO ACTUALLY REDUCE CRIME. I WONDER WHAT YOU MAKE OF THAT. [02:12:44] GUEST: CRIME NUMBERS TELL [02:12:48] THEMSELVES -- TELL A DIFFERENT [02:12:50] STORY IN PLACES LIKE D.C. AND [02:12:53] MEMPHIS. THE FRAMING OF IT AS THE NATIONAL GUARD DEPLOYMENT IS WRONG. [02:12:57] IT IS ONE PART OF A BROADER EFFORT THAT INVOLVES FEDERAL [02:13:00] EFFORT AND MEMPHIS AND [02:13:05] WASHINGTON, D.C., TASK FORCES ARE LED BY THE MARSHALS. [02:13:09] YOU HAVE HSI, ICE, ALL ON THE [02:13:12] GROUND DOING HIGH-LEVEL OPERATIONS. [02:13:16] THEY ACTUALLY WOOD ALONG WITH SOME OF THE TASK FORCE DOWN IN [02:13:20] MEMPHIS THIS YEAR AND IN THAT [02:13:26] PIECE, YOU KNOW, I READ THROUGH [02:13:28] A REALLY RADICAL DECLINE IN CRIME AND HAS STATISTICALLY BEEN [02:13:32] ONE OF AMERICA'S MOST DANGEROUS [02:13:33] CITIES FOR MORE THAN A DECADE. [02:13:39] ROBBERIES, ACTIVATED ASSAULTS, SHOOTINGS, AND OFFICERS, ALONG [02:13:43] WITH LOCAL POLICE AND HIGHWAY [02:13:48] PATROL, AND MAKING IT IN A REALLY GOOD ARREST. [02:13:52] USUALLY, PEOPLE WHO HAVE OPEN WARRANTS, WHEN THEY DO THAT OVER [02:13:56] A LONG TIME, I THINK THAT WE SEE [02:13:59] WE ENJOYED THE INCAPACITATION [02:14:01] EFFECT. HOST: INDEPENDENT, NORTH [02:14:06] CAROLINA, GOOD MORNING, PATRICK. [02:14:07] CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [02:14:13] I'M ABSOLUTELY UNAFFILIATED AND CALLING ON THE INDEPENDENT LINE. [02:14:16] IN ANY CASE, I WANTED TO POINT [02:14:22] OUT SOMETHING. TO OUR HOST. ABOUT GUN VIOLENCE. [02:14:26] THEN CRIME. OK. HOST: GO AHEAD. [02:14:29] CALLER: THERE IS SOMETHING [02:14:33] CALLED RISK-REWARD. EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT IT IS. [02:14:37] IT IS -- IF THE RISK OUTWEIGHS [02:14:41] THE REWARD, YOU DON'T DO IT. [02:14:45] WHAT I PROPOSE IS TO GET RID OF [02:14:49] GUN VIOLENCE CRIME. [02:14:54] YOU GET CAUGHT UP WITH AN UNREGISTERED GUN ON THE STREETS, IT IS 10 YEARS AUTOMATIC. [02:14:58] 10 YEARS. [02:15:00] IF YOU GO IN TO A BODEGA OR A [02:15:04] BANK WITH A GUN, AND YOU SHOW [02:15:05] THE GUN, EVEN IF YOU DON'T [02:15:10] SHOOT, 20 YEARS, NO PAROLE. [02:15:13] AND IF YOU SHOOT SOMEONE, [02:15:17] WHETHER YOU WOUND THEM OR WHATEVER, COMMITTING A CRIME, IT [02:15:21] IS 30 YEARS, NO PAROLE. [02:15:24] BUT PEOPLE THAT COMMIT A CRIME [02:15:26] WITH A GUN, SHOOT SOMEBODY, THEY GET 10 YEARS MAYBE. [02:15:30] THEY ARE OUT IN FIVE. THEY CAN DO THAT STANDING ON [02:15:34] THEIR HEAD. OK. HOST: LET'S LET RAFAEL GET INTO THIS. [02:15:38] GUEST: I APPRECIATE YOUR CALL. I THINK YOU ARE GETTING AT [02:15:41] SOMETHING VERY REAL. [02:15:43] ONE OF THE BIGGEST DRIVERS IN [02:15:48] THE UNITED STATES HAS BEEN A REPEAT OFFENDER PROBLEM. [02:15:51] WE CONSISTENTLY SEE PEOPLE WITH [02:15:56] 15, 20, PRIOR ARRESTS, MULTIPLE [02:16:00] PRISONS STAYS IN THEIR CRIMINAL HISTORIES. THAT TELLS YOU THE POLICE ARE [02:16:04] DOING A RELATIVELY GOOD JOB BUT [02:16:06] THE BROADER SYSTEM HAS FAILED TO [02:16:12] HAVE PEOPLE BEHIND BARS LONG [02:16:16] ENOUGH TO SHIELD SOCIETY FROM THE CRIMES THEY WILL COMMIT. [02:16:20] IT IS NOT NECESSARILY THOSE [02:16:21] NUMBERS, BUT HAVING MINIMUM [02:16:27] SENTENCES THAT ARE SIGNIFICANT, THAT THERE IS NO GETTING OUT OF, [02:16:31] THAT PROSECUTORS CANNOT NEGOTIATE THEIR WAY OUT OF. [02:16:34] IN THE AGGREGATE, THAT WILL REDUCE CRIME. [02:16:37] WE'VE SEEN THAT OVER THE HISTORY. AND A LOT OF STATES HAVE MOVED IN THAT DIRECTION. [02:16:41] TENNESSEE IS A GREAT EXAMPLE [02:16:42] THAT ADOPTED THAT BACK IN 2023. [02:16:48] AND THAT INCREASED THE AMOUNT OF [02:16:51] TIME PEOPLE SPEND BEHIND BARS, [02:16:55] AND OTHERS ARE CONSIDERING THE [02:16:59] MODIFIED THREE STRIKES PROPOSALS, WHICH I THINK IS ANOTHER IMPORTANT LEVER TO CONSIDER PULLING BUT I THINK WE [02:17:03] ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT [02:17:04] DIRECTION. HOST: TENNESSEE, INDEPENDENT, WE [02:17:10] WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT MEMPHIS, SO JOHN, GO AHEAD WITH YOUR [02:17:13] COMMENT. WE MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR [02:17:17] YOU ON THE BACKEND. [02:17:18] CALLER: I LIVED IN MEMPHIS FOR A [02:17:22] NUMBER OF YEARS, CHATTANOOGA. I SPENT SOME TIME IN WASHINGTON, [02:17:26] D.C. ALL THREE OF THE LOCALITIES ARE LOCATED ON STATE LINES. [02:17:30] THAT'S ALWAYS A PROBLEM FOR LAW [02:17:35] ENFORCEMENT DUE TO THE FACT THAT PEOPLE WOULD COME ACROSS THE [02:17:37] STATE BOUNDARIES AND COMMIT [02:17:40] THEIR CRIMES AND THEN SCOOT BACK ACROSS INTO ANOTHER [02:17:43] JURISDICTION. THIS IS ALWAYS A MAJOR CHALLENGE [02:17:47] FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT, LOCAL LAW [02:17:50] ENFORCEMENT, TO PURSUE THEIR [02:17:56] PARTICULAR CRIMINALS, INCLUDING INVESTIGATIONS, ESPECIALLY IN MEMPHIS. [02:18:00] GUEST: YEAH, MEMPHIS BEING SO [02:18:04] CLOSE TO ARKANSAS, IT IS A CHALLENGE FOR INDIVIDUALS ACROSS [02:18:08] STATE LINES TO GO BACK TO A DIFFERENT JURISDICTION. [02:18:12] I DO THINK LAW ENFORCEMENT HAVE [02:18:15] HONED THEIR SKILLS AND COOPERATE [02:18:21] IN TERMS OF INTERAGENCY COOPERATION. WORKING WITH OTHER STATES TO [02:18:24] MAKE SURE CRIME IS NOT BEING DISPLACED BY CERTAIN OPERATIONS [02:18:27] BUT ALSO SHARING AND GETTING HELP EXTRADITING OFFENDERS AND [02:18:31] THE OTHER JURISDICTION. [02:18:32] HOST: HAVE YOU RECENTLY BEEN TO [02:18:37] MEMPHIS AND HAVE YOU SEEN A DIFFERENCE IN WHAT IT FEELS LIKE [02:18:39] TO BE THERE WHEN THEY EXPERIENCE [02:18:43] THIS DROP IN CRIME? CALLER: NOT LATELY, BUT WHEN I [02:18:47] WAS DOWN THERE OVER THE YEARS, [02:18:49] MISSISSIPPI HAS BEEN A LONG TIME [02:18:52] SOURCE OF EASILY OBTAINED FIREARMS. [02:18:55] AND THAT IS WHAT ESSENTIALLY [02:18:58] FLOODED MEMPHIS, AND UP THE [02:19:02] EASTERN SIDE ALL THE WAY UP TO [02:19:04] CHICAGO, IT IS ONE OF THE MAJOR PROBLEMS. [02:19:08] IT IS EASILY SOURCING FIREARMS ALL THE WAY UP AND DOWN THERE. [02:19:12] HOST: THAT WAS JOHN FROM [02:19:16] MEMPHIS. MIKE, NORTH CAROLINA, [02:19:19] REPUBLICAN. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [02:19:22] FIRST OF ALL, AT LAST YEAR'S [02:19:28] BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, THE FBI STATISTICS AT THE TOP 10, 9 OF [02:19:31] THE TOP 10 VIOLENT CITIES IN THE [02:19:34] COUNTRY ARE ALL RUN BY DEMOCRATS [02:19:36] . A LOT OF THEM ARE IN RED STATES, [02:19:39] BUT YOU'VE GOT BLUE MAYORS AND BLUE CITY COUNCIL AND ALL THAT STUFF. [02:19:43] MY MAIN THING IS THAT THE YOUTH [02:19:46] VIOLENT CRIME, THESE YOUTH NO [02:19:51] THAT IF THEY ARE UNDER 18, THEY ARE GOING TO GET A PAT ON THE WRIST AND THEY ARE GOING TO GET [02:19:55] OUT AND RE-EVENT. [02:19:59] AND THE CRIME AGE OF THESE PEOPLE ARE GETTING YOUNGER AND [02:20:01] YOUNGER. THEY NEED TO BE TRIED AS AN [02:20:05] ADULT, ATTRIBUTED TO THE CRIME [02:20:09] THEY'RE DOING, LIKE CARJACKINGS, [02:20:13] ARMED ROBBERIES. [02:20:14] IN MY OPINION, THE DEATH PENALTY [02:20:18] SHOULD BE FULLY ENFORCED. [02:20:22] RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE CLEANING OUT [02:20:25] DEATH ROW. THESE PEOPLE ON DEATH ROW FOR [02:20:29] 20, 30 YEARS, WHERE IS THE JUSTICE FOR THE VICTIMS IN THIS CRIME? [02:20:33] BUT THE MAIN THING, TOO, ALSO, [02:20:36] YOU'VE GOT THESE DA'S, [02:20:41] MAGISTRATES, LOCAL JUDGES -- I [02:20:43] LIVE 20 MILES FROM CHARLOTTE. [02:20:46] LATELY, THEY ARE RELEASING [02:20:50] CRIMINALS JUST LIKE THE GUY WHO [02:20:55] STABBED THE GIRL ON THE RED LINE, THE TRAIN LINE, THEY ARE BEING RELEASED. [02:20:59] AND COOPER IS ONE OF THE ONES [02:21:03] THAT RELEASED, AND HE'S RUNNING FOR SENATE. HOPEFULLY HE DON'T GET IT. [02:21:07] BUT HE RELEASED ALL OF THESE [02:21:09] INMATES DURING THE "CHINA VIRUS" [02:21:12] COVID DATING. [02:21:14] OVER HALF HAD RE-OFFENDED FROM [02:21:18] THE ONES HE HAD RELEASED. HOST: LET'S LET RAFAEL GET IN HERE. YOU'VE GIVEN HIM A LOT TO [02:21:22] PONDER. GUEST: THERE'S A LOT THERE. [02:21:24] I JOIN YOU IN YOUR CRITIQUE OF [02:21:30] INCARCERATION EFFORTS IN STATES LIKE NORTH CAROLINA AND CITIES [02:21:33] LIKE CHARLOTTE. I DO THINK THOSE ARE PROBLEMATIC . [02:21:36] THERE IS A LONG HISTORY OF THAT. WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE [02:21:39] SORT OF PERSON WHO ENDS UP IN THE U.S. PRISON, A TYPICAL STATE [02:21:43] PRISON IN THE U.S. IS SOMEONE BETWEEN 10 AND TOLD PRIOR [02:21:47] ARRESTS AND CONVICTIONS. -- 10 AND 12 PRIOR ARRESTS AND [02:21:51] CONVICTIONS. THESE ARE NOT LOWER-LEVEL RISK [02:21:55] INDIVIDUALS. [02:21:57] OR LETTING PEOPLE AVOID PRISON, TOGETHER, THAT IS GOING TO HAVE [02:22:01] AN IMPACT. [02:22:05] AS ANOTHER YOUTH VIOLENCE FRONT, [02:22:07] JUVENILES, THAT IS AN IMPORTANT [02:22:10] FACTOR IN AMERICA BECAUSE ONE OF THE CRIMES IN A CITY LIKE NEW [02:22:13] YORK, FOR EXAMPLE, WHICH HAS [02:22:17] SEEN SO MANY CRIMES AND SO MANY CATEGORIES, IT IS BUCKING THE TREND. [02:22:21] ONE OF THE REASONS IS A LOT OF [02:22:24] PLACES THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA HAVE ADOPTED [02:22:28] THESE WHERE THEY HAVE LOWER THE [02:22:32] AGE OR RACE AGE TO 18 OR 21. [02:22:34] WITH THAT HAS DONE IS WHERE YOU [02:22:39] HAVE THESE GANG MEMBERS WHO ARE NOW PASSING ON A LOT MORE OF THE [02:22:43] RESPONSIBILITY TO YOUNGER MEMBERS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THOSE YOUNGER MEMBERS ARE NOT [02:22:47] GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO ANY KIND [02:22:48] OF PENALTY. [02:22:53] AND I YOUNG 13-YEAR-OLD BOY IN [02:22:57] CHICAGO, KILLED BY A CHICAGO POLICE OFFICER, WHO RESPONDED TO [02:23:00] A SHOT FIRED ALERT, AND FOUND [02:23:02] HIM IN THE ALLEY WITH A GUN. [02:23:05] AND HE WAS WITH I THINK A 25-YEAR-OLD LATIN KING GANG [02:23:09] MEMBER. YOU HAD THAT OLDER GANG MEMBER [02:23:13] ENCOURAGING THE YOUNGER ONE TO [02:23:17] HOLD FIRE, ULTIMATELY PUTTING HIS LIFE IN A POSITION TO TAKE [02:23:21] -- BE TAKEN IN SELF-DEFENSE. I THINK A LOT MORE STATES AND CITIES ARE LOOKING TO DEAL WITH [02:23:25] THIS PROBLEM. [02:23:27] ONE OF THE WAYS THEY CAN DO THAT IS THROUGH A JUVENILE DEFENDING, [02:23:31] WHICH IS SOMETHING ELSE THEY'VE DONE. IF SOMEONE DOES GET PROSECUTED [02:23:35] AS A JUVENILE, THEY CAN BE TRANSFERRED TO THE LEGAL SYSTEM [02:23:38] AFTER THEY REACH THE AGE OF MAJORITY. [02:23:42] YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT THAT APPLIES BOTH TO ADULTS AND JUVENILES, UNDERSTAND [02:23:45] THE ARGUMENT, WHICH IS THAT THEY [02:23:49] DON'T HAVE THE SAME LEVEL OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE CRIMES THEY COMMIT, BUT I WOULD ALSO [02:23:52] SAY THAT LACK OF RELEVANT ALSO [02:23:54] MAKE SOME HIGHER RISK AND WHEN [02:23:57] YOU CONSIDER WHO IS GOING TO BEAR THE BRUNT OF THE DOWNSIDE [02:24:00] RISK THERE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT [02:24:03] THE VERY SAME SUBPOPULATIONS. [02:24:08] AND IN THE WAKE OF [02:24:10] IMPLEMENTATION, WE SAW SHOOTING [02:24:13] INVOLVEMENT FOR BENEFICIARIES WHO WERE SUBSEQUENTLY RELEASED [02:24:17] AS A RESULT. HOST: FROM ILLINOIS, [02:24:23] INDEPENDENT, GOOD MORNING. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [02:24:26] I WAS 23 YEARS LAW ENFORCEMENT IN CALIFORNIA. I'M SORRY TO SAY I WAS PART OF [02:24:30] THE SYSTEM WHERE WE WERE [02:24:33] WAREHOUSING PEOPLE, AND THE FACT [02:24:36] OF THE MATTER IS YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM [02:24:40] BECAUSE ALL YOU'RE GOING TO DO IS TRY TO PUT THE HAMMER DOWN AND THEY WILL BE AN ENDLESS [02:24:43] SUPPLY OF PEOPLE FOLLOWING BECAUSE WERE NOT WANTING TO TALK ABOUT WHY THEY COMMIT CRIME IN [02:24:47] THE FIRST PLACE. VIOLENT CRIME AND OTHER [02:24:51] ASSOCIATED ROBBERIES, THINGS LIKE THAT. [02:24:53] SO THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, WE [02:24:56] HAVE PEOPLE WHO DON'T FEEL ANY [02:24:58] KIND OF REASON TO BE GOOD [02:25:02] CITIZENS. I'M GOING TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE NEVER GOING TO SOLVE IT [02:25:05] UNTIL YOU START FIGURING OUT WHY PEOPLE ARE COMMITTING CRIMES AND [02:25:09] COINCIDENTLY HAVE -- HAPPEN TO [02:25:12] BE USING POOR PEOPLE, POOR WHITES, MINORITY PEOPLE, SO WE [02:25:16] ARE QUICK TO JUDGE THEM. WE SEE PEOPLE AT THE HIGHEST [02:25:18] LEVEL COMMITTING CRIMES, AND [02:25:23] I'VE HAD A LOT OF EXPERIENCE TALKING TO CONVICTS, THEY KNOW [02:25:26] WHAT THEY'VE DONE AND THEY JUST DON'T CARE. SO IF YOU THINK YOU ARE GOING TO [02:25:30] TRY TO GO TO TENNESSEE OR WHATEVER YOU THINK, ONCE YOU GO INTO EASTERN KENTUCKY AND WEST [02:25:34] VIRGINIA AND GRAB SOME OF THOSE [02:25:35] WERE RULED -- RURAL GUNMEN -- [02:25:40] GANG MEMBERS AND GO DOWN AT THEM, THE KIND OF THING ABOUT [02:25:44] MINORITY PEOPLE ARE INHERENTLY [02:25:48] TERRIBLE, AND BEING MEXICAN MYSELF, I SEE THE DIFFERENCE. DO SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE [02:25:52] CONSTRUCTIVE BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET THE SAME PROBLEM. I GUARANTEE IT. [02:25:56] GOOD LUCK ON THAT. GUEST: I JOIN YOU IN THE [02:26:01] ARGUMENT THAT WE ARE NEVER GOING [02:26:02] TO GET RID OF CRIME IN THIS [02:26:06] HIERARCHY. THIS IS KIND OF A FALSE PLACE. [02:26:09] I DON'T THINK ANYONE SUGGESTS WE WILL SOLVE THE CRIME PROBLEM [02:26:13] ENTIRELY, BUT WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY DONE AS A COUNTRY'S [02:26:17] IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY IN [02:26:18] AMERICA. BETWEEN 1990 AND 2014, HOMICIDE [02:26:22] RATES DECLINED BY 50%. [02:26:24] WE DO NOT SOLVE POVERTY, ECONOMIC EQUALITY OR [02:26:28] JOBLESSNESS. DURING THE GREAT RECESSION, THE [02:26:32] UNEMPLOYMENT RATE DOUBLED IN THE HOMICIDE RATE DECLINED 50%. [02:26:36] I THINK WHAT THIS CALLER IS GETTING THAT CAT IN ORDER TO [02:26:39] SOLVE CRIME, YOU HAVE TO SOLVE THE ROOT PROCESS. [02:26:43] ONE, I DON'T THINK WE DO. HISTORY HAS SHOWN US WE DON'T [02:26:47] HAVE TO SOLVE THEM TO GET CRIME UNDER CONTROL. [02:26:50] NEW YORK CITY WENT TO LESS THAN [02:26:52] 300 MURDERS AND WE PROBABLY WILL [02:26:55] HIT A SIMILAR NUMBER THIS YEAR. [02:26:58] IT DID NOT SALT AND EQUALITY OR ANY OF THE ECONOMIC ISSUES THAT [02:27:01] ARE OFTEN BLAMED FOR DRIVING [02:27:03] CRIME. [02:27:06] BUT WE DID WAS WE PROSECUTED AND INCARCERATED OUR WAY OUT OF THAT [02:27:10] AND THAT SHOULD BE ON THE TABLE FOR EVERYBODY. [02:27:13] I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD SUGGEST THE MINORITY COMMUNITY ARE INHERENTLY CRIMINAL, AND I [02:27:17] WOULD SAY THAT ROBUST LAW [02:27:20] ENFORCEMENT APPROACHES BENEFIT [02:27:25] AND YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE HOMICIDE DECLINE BETWEEN 2008 [02:27:29] AND 2014. YOU CAN SEE THE EFFECT IT HAD ON [02:27:32] LIFE EXPECTANCY. [02:27:34] IT ADDED 0.1 FOUR YEARS FOR THE [02:27:37] AVERAGE WHITE MALE IN AMERICA, WHICH IS NOT SIGNIFICANT. [02:27:41] IT WAS A FULL YEAR FOR THE AVERAGE BLACKMAIL, WHICH IS A [02:27:45] MASSIVE DISPARITY. I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS LOST. [02:27:49] WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE UNEVEN [02:27:52] DISTRIBUTION IN THE U.S., WHICH IS A REAL THING. [02:27:56] BLACK MEN ARE FIVE TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BE INCARCERATED THAN THEIR WHITE COUNTERPARTS AND [02:28:00] MORE LIKELY TO BE ARRESTED AND SUBJECT TO THE POLICE USES OF FORCE, BUT THEY ARE ALSO MORE [02:28:04] LIKELY TO BE THE VICTIMS OF CRIMES AND VIOLENT CRIMES IN [02:28:08] PARTICULAR AND SERIOUS HOMICIDE. IT IS ALMOST A 10 X DIFFERENCE [02:28:11] IN TERMS OF THE DISPARITY. WHAT THAT MEANS IS WHEN YOU DO [02:28:15] ENFORCEMENT AND THAT RESULTS IN CRIME DECLINE, THOSE BENEFITS [02:28:19] ARE NOT EVENLY DISTRIBUTED. [02:28:21] IT IS NOT SOMETHING I THINK WE HAVE TO TO KEEP IN MIND. [02:28:25] WHY ON EARTH WITH THE SYSTEM THAT WE ARE TOLD IS ALLEGEDLY [02:28:29] DESIGNED AND OPERATED FOR SPECIFIC OR CERTAIN MEMBER OF [02:28:33] THE COMMUNITY'S SO SIGNIFICANTLY [02:28:38] -- IF YOU ASK ANY POLICE CHIEF IN AMERICA WHAT THEY ARE TRYING [02:28:42] TO DO, THEY WANT TO CONTROL CRIME. [02:28:46] GIVEN HOW CONCENTRATED THE DEMOGRAPHIC DECLINE IS, WE KNOW WHO IS GOING TO BENEFIT FROM [02:28:50] THAT CONTROLLED, IT IS NOT GOING TO BE WHITE AMERICANS, IT IS [02:28:53] MOSTLY LOW INCOME MINORITY [02:28:56] COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE DESPERATE FOR CHANGE. [02:28:59] AND IN MEMPHIS, WHICH ARE MAJORITY BLACK, THEY ARE REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT ON THE GROUND. [02:29:03] HOST: A HEADLINE FROM THE NEW [02:29:06] YORK POST, MAJOR CALIFORNIA [02:29:10] CITIES HE STAGGERING SPIKE IN MURDERS AND NATIONAL HOMICIDE [02:29:13] RATES HITS 125 YEAR LOW. [02:29:15] BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT RECENT SEE [02:29:22] CJ REPORT, IT IS DOWN TO 55%. BY THE NUMBERS, IT IS 12 [02:29:26] HOMICIDES IN 2025, 16 THE FIRST [02:29:29] SIX MONTHS OF THE YEAR. [02:29:32] SIMILARLY, A LOOK AT NEBRASKA, [02:29:35] 100 PERCENT DROP IN HOMICIDES DURING THE TWO-YEAR TIMEFRAME, [02:29:39] THE CITY HAD SIX HOMICIDES AND [02:29:45] WHICH PEOPLE -- WHAT SHOULD PEOPLE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION [02:29:49] WHEN THEY HEAR STORIES THAT ARE [02:29:50] USING THIS TYPE OF DATA? GUEST: I THINK IT IS PROBABLY [02:29:54] NOT SOMETHING WE SHOULD RELY ON HEAVILY. WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT LOW [02:29:58] BASIS, YOU ARE LIKELY TO HAVE LARGE PERCENTAGE INCREASES. [02:30:02] IF YOU ARE TALKING SINGLE DIGIT NUMBERS. AS A MATTER OF PERCENTAGE, THAT [02:30:06] IS GOING TO LOOK DIFFERENT. [02:30:10] ZOOMING OUT AND LOOKING AT A BROADER TREND OVER A LONGER [02:30:12] TIME, LOOKING WILL TELL YOU [02:30:16] ABOUT WHAT WORKS. [02:30:19] SOMETIMES YOU CAN HAVE A BIG INCREASE IN SPITE OF A FEW [02:30:23] INSTANCES EXTRA. [02:30:26] WHICH CAN EASILY BE THE [02:30:29] BYPRODUCT SO THE IDEA THAT THAT [02:30:33] IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE CONTRIBUTED TO POLICY DIRECTION. [02:30:36] HOST: BRAUN, FLORIDA, [02:30:40] INDEPENDENT. YOU WILL BE OUR LAST CALL. MAKE IT QUICK FOR ME. [02:30:42] CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [02:30:46] I'M WATCHING YOUR SHOW ON CRIME TODAY. [02:30:48] I WANTED TO BRING UP THAT NO ONE IS SAFE ON THE ROADS ANYMORE DUE [02:30:54] TO DISTRACTED DRIVING. [02:30:56] IN 1998, THE GOVERNMENT BANNED [02:31:00] LAWN DARTS BECAUSE THEY WERE AN UNSAFE PRODUCT. [02:31:03] NOW LOTS OF LEGISLATION IS SAYING YOU CANNOT TEXT AND [02:31:07] DRIVE. IT HASN'T WORKED. YOU ARE GOING AFTER LOW-LYING [02:31:11] CRIME, AND A MACHINE THAT ALLOWS [02:31:18] PEOPLE TO BREAK THE LAW, HOW COME THEY HAVE NOT SAID THIS [02:31:22] MACHINE THAT ALLOWS YOU TO TEXT DOES NOT WORK WHEN YOU DRIVE. [02:31:26] GUEST: IF YOU ARE CONNECTED TO [02:31:29] SOME OF THE HANDS-FREE FEATURES, [02:31:32] IT DOES STOP YOU FROM TEXTING WHILE DRIVING. YOU HAVE TO USE VOICE CONTROL. [02:31:36] I'VE BEEN FRUSTRATED BY THIS FEATURE SOMETIMES WHEN I BREAK [02:31:40] THAT RULE AND I TRY NOT TO DO IT AND I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD TURN OUT TO DO IT. [02:31:44] YEAH, I CERTAINLY THINK AN [02:31:46] INCREASE IN DISTRACTED DRIVING, [02:31:50] THE PERSON WHO IS IN FRONT OF THE LINE IS LOOKING AT THEIR [02:31:52] PHONE. I SHARE IN YOUR FRUSTRATION. HOST: I LOOK AT STATISTICS ON [02:31:56] THAT, RAFAEL MANGUAL, FELLOW AT [02:32:00] THE MANHATTAN INSTITUTE, THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. [02:32:04] NEXT, IT IS OPEN FORUM. YOUR CHANCE TO WEIGH IN ON ANY [02:32:08] POLITICAL OR PUBLIC POLICY ISSUE ON YOUR MINDS THIS MORNING. [02:32:12] STAR CALLING IN. REPUBLICANS, (202)-748-8001. [02:32:18] DEMOCRATS, (202)-748-8000. [02:32:22] INDEPENDENTS, (202)-748-8002. START CALLING IN NOW BEFORE WE [02:32:26] CLOSE OUT THE SHOW. [02:32:38] >> IN A DIVIDED MEDIA WORLD, ONE PLACE BRINGS AMERICANS TOGETHER. ACCORDING TO A NEW RESEARCH REPORT, NEARLY 90 MILLION AMERICANS TURNED TO C-SPAN. 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PRICES ROSE IN JULY FROM EARLIER [02:34:56] IN 3.4% FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR ON AN EQUALLY ADJUSTED BASIS AS [02:35:00] THE WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST KEEPS [02:35:02] PUSHING PRICES. [02:35:06] THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX ROSE 2.5% OF THE YEAR AND THE LABOR [02:35:09] DEPARTMENT REPORTED WEDNESDAY [02:35:13] RIGHT AND COST OF HOME OWNERSHIP HAVE GRADUALLY BEEN CALLING AFTER THE PANDEMIC AND RESEARCH. [02:35:17] THE PAST TWO MONTHS, IT HAS BEEN [02:35:19] DRAGGED ON BY HOTELS 3.2%. [02:35:26] THAT FOLLOWS A DROP. THAT IS THE LATEST ON INFLATION. [02:35:28] LET'S TURN TO YOUR PHONE CALLS. [02:35:31] FROM FLORIDA, DEMOCRAT, TELL ME [02:35:35] IF I PRONOUNCE YOUR FIRST NAME INCORRECTLY. [02:35:38] GOOD MORNING. CALLER: MY NAME IS IRA. [02:35:41] I WANT TO SPEAK ON WHAT IS GOING [02:35:44] ON IN THE MIDDLE EAST. [02:35:49] 1948, AND WE START THERE. [02:35:52] THEY SET IT UP WRONG BECAUSE [02:35:56] THEY WOULD BLOW IRAN INTO OBLIVION. [02:35:59] IT HAS TO BE OUTSIDE. [02:36:03] THE STATE OF ISRAEL AND ISRAELIS [02:36:09] WANT TO TAKE OVER OTHER PEOPLE. [02:36:13] THEY ARE PRESSING THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE. [02:36:17] UNWISE LEADERSHIP IN BOTH COUNTRIES, ISRAEL AND THE U.S. [02:36:21] IF THEY DON'T SEE THIS, THEY WILL NEVER BE PEACE THERE UNTIL [02:36:24] THERE IS PALESTINE. [02:36:28] KEEP THEM SEPARATED. EVERYBODY IN THE MIDDLE EAST IS [02:36:31] EXHAUSTED. [02:36:39] THE UNITED STATES SHOULD LOOK AT [02:36:44] THEIR SITUATION. THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO LIVE UNDER OPPRESSION. [02:36:48] THAT IS ALL THERE IS TO IT. [02:36:49] HOST: THAT IS IRA FROM FLORIDA. [02:36:56] JAMES, WASHINGTON, REPUBLICAN. GOOD MORNING. [02:36:58] CALLER: I WOULD LIKE TO TALK [02:37:02] ABOUT INFLATION REGARDING HOUSING. I WAS LOOKING UP INFORMATION ON [02:37:06] RENT PRICES AND HOW THEY GOT UP. [02:37:10] FROM WHAT I'VE READ, IT IS PARTIALLY CAUSED BY THE LACK OF [02:37:14] HOUSING WHICH OCCURRED AFTER THE 2008 HOUSING CRASH. [02:37:18] ALSO BECAUSE THE INCREASE IN [02:37:21] UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS HAS TAXED [02:37:24] THE DEMAND AND INCREASED STRESS, [02:37:27] SO BOTH FACTORS HAVE BEEN [02:37:33] INCREASING RENTAL COSTS. [02:37:34] HOST: THAT IS JAMIE FROM [02:37:38] WASHINGTON, REPUBLICAN. A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE INFLATION GOING BACK TO THE NEW [02:37:41] YORK TIMES ARTICLE. THEY HAVE A CHART HERE, A [02:37:45] GRAPHIC, WHICH SHOWS THE ANNUAL [02:37:49] CHANGES IN SELECT CATEGORIES, [02:37:52] FROM JULY 2025 AND THE CONSUMER [02:37:55] PRICE INDEX, AND THEY LIST IT BY [02:37:58] CATEGORY. [02:38:00] 3.4%, EXCLUDING FOOD AND ENERGY, [02:38:03] 2.5%. [02:38:05] PLUS 39.9% FOR ENERGY. [02:38:12] AND WE MENTION HOUSING, IT IS RENT A PRIMARY RESIDENCE, THAT [02:38:16] IS .29%, INCREASES JULY 2025. [02:38:20] HERE IS THE TIMES ARTICLE WHERE [02:38:23] YOU CAN SEE THE INCREASE IN SOME OF THESE CATEGORIES THAT ARE [02:38:27] SEPARATED FROM THE OVERALL 3.4% [02:38:30] INCREASE. [02:38:35] ROBERT FROM ALABAMA, DEMOCRAT. GOOD MORNING. OPEN FORUM. YOU CAN TALK ABOUT ANYTHING [02:38:39] YOU'D LIKE. CALLER: THANK YOU. [02:38:43] GOOD MORNING TO YOU. THE GENTLEMAN WHO CALLED IN FIRST, HE HAD A LOT TO SAY. [02:38:47] I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN [02:38:49] OBSERVATION ON TO CRIMES. [02:38:52] I'VE BEEN CALLING SINCE BRIAN LAMB FIRST CAME ON. [02:38:55] THE CRIMES IN THIS COUNTRY, THIS [02:38:58] COUNTRY WAS BASED ON CRIME, BUT [02:39:01] IF YOU GO TO THE [02:39:03] AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY, A LOT OF CRIME IN OUR COMMUNITY IS [02:39:09] BASED ON DRUGS. EVERY ILLEGAL DRUG THAT COMES TO THEIR COUNTRY COMES THROUGH THE [02:39:12] HANDS OF WHITE PEOPLE AND THEY PUT THEM IN OUR COMMUNITY. [02:39:16] AND THAT IS A CRIME. BUT CHECK THEM OUT. [02:39:19] I GUARANTEE YOU, EACH HAS SOME [02:39:23] KIND OF ILLEGAL DRUGS. [02:39:29] AS I SAID BEFORE, DRUGS IN THIS [02:39:32] COUNTRY, AFRICAN-AMERICANS HAVE [02:39:35] NO BOOKS WILL GET DRUGS. [02:39:37] IF THEY DID, THEY WOULD BOMB [02:39:40] THEM. I KNOW NOT ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE [02:39:43] BAD, I KNOW THAT, BUT THESE [02:39:47] ILLEGAL AND LEGAL DRUGS IN THIS COUNTRY COME TO THE HANDS OF [02:39:49] WHITE PEOPLE. [02:40:00] HOST: THAT WAS ROBERT FROM ALABAMA. HE SAID SOME THINGS ABOUT THE WAY DRUGS ENTERED THE COUNTRY WHICH I DON'T THINK ARE [02:40:03] TECHNICALLY BASED IN FACT. JAMES, GEORGIA, INDEPENDENT. [02:40:06] GOOD MORNING. [02:40:08] CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [02:40:11] BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THIS, [02:40:13] IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT IS GOING ON [02:40:16] IN THE DEMOCRAT PARTY, IT IS [02:40:19] PRETTY SPECIFIC. [02:40:21] ISRAEL IS AN ISSUE WHICH THE DEMOCRAT PARTY DOES NOT WANT TO [02:40:25] FACE. [02:40:27] SUPPORTS ARE GOING TO BE SPLIT [02:40:33] WIN BECAUSE BLACK PEOPLE, WE ARE MAD BECAUSE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY [02:40:37] WANT PUSHBACK. [02:40:40] THIS WHITE PRIVILEGE PRESIDENT, [02:40:44] SECRETARY OF DEFENSE, ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE UNQUALIFIED FOR THESE [02:40:47] JOBS. [02:40:50] IT IS LIKE WE ARE GOING BACK [02:40:53] BEFORE IMMIGRATION. THE MILITARY HAS NOT BEEN [02:40:57] INTEGRATED THAT LONG. AND HOW BLACK PEOPLE WERE TREATED IN THE MILITARY WHEN [02:41:00] THEY CAME HOME FROM THOSE WARS, IT IS BAD NOW AND THEY ARE IN [02:41:04] THE MILITARY. AND HOW ABOUT THE BLACK WOMEN [02:41:07] WHO HAVE LOST THEIR JOBS, 300 [02:41:11] 50,000? BUT WE HEAR NOTHING ABOUT THIS. [02:41:15] A LOT OF US ARE REALIZING THIS. [02:41:19] THERE IS NO NEED TO VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING FOR A [02:41:23] SPECIFIC. [02:41:25] TRUMP IS DOING SOMETHING [02:41:28] SPECIFIC FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL. [02:41:36] THEY ARE A NAZI PARTY, BUT WHAT [02:41:39] TRUMP FIRST SAID, [02:41:42] [INDISCERNIBLE] [02:41:46] PEOPLE ARE DEPLORABLE. HOST: JEFF, NORTH CAROLINA, [02:41:49] REPUBLICAN. GOOD MORNING. [02:41:52] CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [02:41:55] I TELL YOU WHAT, THESE CALLERS [02:42:04] WANT AMERICA TO BELIEVE, GET RID OF ALL THE WHITE PEOPLE. THEY ARE ALL RACES. GET RID OF ALL THE REPUBLICANS. [02:42:08] THEY ARE ALL RACIST. I GET SO SICK OF HEARING THIS [02:42:11] CRAP. [02:42:17] I WILL TELL YOU SOMETHING ABOUT C-SPAN. I USED TO THINK MORE OF IT THAN [02:42:20] I DO THESE DAYS. MAINSTREAM MEDIA DOES NOT COVER [02:42:23] THE NEWS. [02:42:26] I MEAN, IT JUST BLOWS MY MIND. HOST: WHAT ARE WE NOT COVERING? [02:42:29] CALLER: I TELL YOU WHAT COME UP [02:42:33] GETS ME, NIEMI IS THE WORST. THEY WILL CUT YOU OFF. [02:42:37] THEY'RE WAY IS ALWAYS RIGHT. THEY WILL TRY TO DICTATE TO YOU, [02:42:41] THEY WILL SHOW YOU A LIBERAL POLL THAT TELLS YOU THEIR WAY IS RIGHT. WHEN YOU TRY TO EXPLAIN, THEY [02:42:45] CUT YOU OFF. I CAN SHOW YOU CLIP AFTER CLIP [02:42:49] AFTER CLIP OF IT. [02:42:54] IT IS THIS EVENING AFTER A [02:42:55] WHILE. HOST: BONNIE, NORTH CAROLINA, [02:43:00] DEMOCRAT. [02:43:02] GOOD MORNING. CALLER: TOP OF THE MORNING TO [02:43:05] YOU. NORTH CAROLINA IN THE HOUSE. [02:43:08] HOST: A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE BEEN IN NORTH CAROLINA THIS MORNING. [02:43:11] CALLER: YEAH, I'M GLAD. [02:43:15] I HEARD TWO NORTH CAROLINIANS MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT ROY [02:43:19] COOPER AND THAT HE WAS THE BOOGIE MAN. ROY COOPER IS ABOUT ONE OF THE [02:43:23] BEST WHITE GUYS I'VE KNOWN IN NORTH CAROLINA WHO WILL FIGHT [02:43:27] FOR NORTH CAROLINA BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M CALLING ABOUT. I TRIED TO TALK TO THAT [02:43:31] GENTLEMAN TALKING ABOUT THE LAW. [02:43:32] IT SEEMED TO ME, ACTUALLY HE WAS [02:43:40] POINTING OUT BLACK PEOPLE AND PEOPLE OF COLOR. [02:43:44] THE POLICE OFFICER POINTED IT OUT DIRECTLY. [02:43:47] WHY DO PEOPLE NOT TALK ABOUT [02:43:50] THESE HANGINGS IN MISSISSIPPI. [02:43:54] SO FAR, THERE HAVE BEEN FIVE PEOPLE HUNG JUST THIS YEAR. [02:44:00] AND THE LAST PERSON WHO WAS [02:44:01] HUNG, HE WAS IN THE TREE UNTIL [02:44:07] THEY TOOK A LADDER TO GET HER DOWN. [02:44:10] SHE WAS 29 YEARS OLD. I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY WANT TO [02:44:14] ACT LIKE WE ARE THE ONE IN THE PROBLEM AND NO ONE CAN SEE THAT [02:44:18] BECAUSE IT IS A BLACK PERSON, BUT THEY DON'T THINK WE ARE SUPPOSED TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT [02:44:22] IT. THE LAST GUY WHO JUST TALKED, HE [02:44:26] SAID HE'S MAD AT YOU WELL BECAUSE YOU LET PEOPLE TALK. [02:44:30] BUT MAINLY CUTS PEOPLE OFF. THAT'S A LIE. EVERYBODY GETS CUT OFF. [02:44:34] AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER WHEN THEY START BEING REDUNDANT. [02:44:37] I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THESE [02:44:41] KILLINGS IN MISSISSIPPI. HOST: LET ME ACTUALLY CUT YOU [02:44:45] OFF -- JUST KIDDING. [02:44:48] LET ME TURN AND READ THIS ARTICLE ON WHAT YOU JUST TALKED [02:44:52] ABOUT FROM CNN. AN ASSOCIATED PRESS ARTICLE, A [02:44:56] BLACK WOMAN WAS FOUND HANGING FROM A TREE IN MISSISSIPPI. HE IS WHAT WE KNOW. [02:45:00] BEAR WITH ME AS WE SCROLL DOWN. [02:45:03] THE HANGING DEATH OF THE WOMAN [02:45:06] WHOSE BODY WAS FOUND OUTSIDE AN ABANDONED HOUSE, HAS SHAKEN HER [02:45:10] FAMILY AND COMMUNITY IN MISSISSIPPI WERE TWO OTHERS HAVE BEEN FOUND DEAD HANGING FROM [02:45:13] TREES IN LESS THAN A YEAR. [02:45:15] POLICE HAVE NOT INDICATED [02:45:20] WHETHER THE DEATH OF SUSPICIOUS ONLY THAT THEY ARE ACTIVELY [02:45:24] WORKING TO DETERMINE THE CIRCUMSTANCES SURROUNDING THE DEATH. [02:45:27] ONE WEEK AFTER HER BODY WAS FOUND, A MEMORIAL HONORING HER [02:45:31] LIFE WAS A BRIGHT SPOT MONDAY AT [02:45:37] THE ABANDONED HOUSE IN JACKSON. WHITE FLOWERS AND A TEDDY BEAR [02:45:41] SURROUNDED THE PHOTO. [02:45:45] BOTTLES LITTERED THE GROUND NEARBY. [02:45:50] A TARP, PHONE PAD AND OTHER DEBRIS WAS SCATTERED OUTSIDE. THAT IS JUST THE BEGINNING OF [02:45:54] THE STORY ABOUT THE BLACK WOMAN [02:45:59] WHO WAS FOUND HANGING FROM A [02:46:00] TREE MISSISSIPPI THAT THE CALLER [02:46:05] MENTIONED. MISERY, INDEPENDENT. GOOD MORNING, ISAIAH. [02:46:08] OPEN FORUM. CALLER: GOOD. [02:46:10] WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ABOUT [02:46:14] OUR CRIME IS THAT WHEN YOU GOT [02:46:21] THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I MEAN THINK ABOUT THIS. [02:46:24] THIS MAN GOT 34: EIGHT ACCOUNTS [02:46:28] ON HIM RIGHT NOW -- 34 FELONY [02:46:31] ACCOUNTS ON HIM RIGHT NOW. [02:46:35] AND THEN A WHITE LADY SUED HIM FOR SEXUAL ABUSE, AND SHE EVEN [02:46:39] GOT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FROM HIM. [02:46:42] HOST: I THINK THAT FIGURE WAS 5 MILLION. [02:46:46] CALLER: AND BEING THE PRESIDENT? [02:46:52] WHEN THEY VOTED FOR HIM, THEY [02:46:54] KNEW HE HAD THOSE 34 COUNTS OF [02:46:57] FELONY ALREADY. IT JUST BOGGLES MY MIND THAT [02:47:00] TYPE OF COUNTRY THAT WE LIVE IN [02:47:02] FOR PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR SOMEONE [02:47:07] THAT IS A FELON. AND THEN THEY WONDER WHY THE [02:47:11] STUFF THAT GOES ON IN THIS COUNTRY. I'M OUT. [02:47:14] HOST: THAT IS ISAIAH FOR [02:47:19] MISSOURI. GARY, MICHIGAN, INDEPENDENT. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [02:47:23] HOST: GARY, CAN I HAVE YOU MUTE [02:47:27] YOUR TV? [02:47:32] CALLER: OK. [02:47:34] YEAH. [02:47:40] VERY INTERESTING OPEN FORUM THIS MORNING. [02:47:43] I DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO LOOK [02:47:45] INTO THE PROGRAM, BUT THE POINTS [02:47:49] PEOPLE WERE BRINGING UP ON OPEN FORUM ARE HIGHLY RELEVANT TO [02:47:53] WHAT IS GOING ON. WE TALKED ABOUT INFLATION AND [02:47:57] CRIME. [02:48:00] I SEEK INFLATION AND CRIME AS [02:48:06] IS, THE ELECTIONS GOING ON AND [02:48:11] THE PEOPLE WE HAVE IN THE [02:48:13] ELECTIONS, I HAVE SOME HOPE AND [02:48:17] FAITH ESTIMATE THE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE DOING, REPUBLICAN AND [02:48:22] DEMOCRATIC PARTY, TURNING AWAY [02:48:29] FROM THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY [02:48:37] BECAUSE I SEE TOWARD THE BLACK [02:48:39] FOLKS DURING THE CAMPAIGN FOR [02:48:42] PRESIDENCY, BUT WE NEED TO WAKE [02:48:45] UP. [02:48:48] WE HAVE REPUBLICAN PARTY THAT IS [02:48:55] COMMUNIST. [02:49:00] WE ARE TALKING TO PEOPLE WHO ARE [02:49:03] WHITE SUPREMACIST AND FASCIST. [02:49:10] AND HOW THAT ALL TIES IN WITH [02:49:12] THE RACISM, THE IMMIGRATION [02:49:16] ISSUES, THE ECONOMIC ISSUES. [02:49:17] HOST: MARILYN, NEBRASKA, [02:49:23] DEMOCRAT. GOOD MORNING. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [02:49:27] I WANT TO SAY THAT AS LONG AS WE [02:49:29] HAVE A PRESIDENT THAT CAN GET [02:49:33] AWAY WITH COMMITTING CRIMES, NOT [02:49:36] GOING BY THE CONSTITUTION, NOT [02:49:39] GOING BY DUE PROCESS, CRIME IN [02:49:44] THIS COUNTRY WILL CONTINUE TO RISE. THE PRESIDENT IS SUPPOSED TO BE [02:49:47] A ROLE MODEL, AND HE IS [02:49:51] DEFINITELY THE WRONG TYPE OF ROLE MODEL. [02:49:55] HE HAS GOT AWAY WITH BREAKING [02:49:56] THE LAW, BREAKING THE [02:50:00] CONSTITUTION. BREAKING DUE PROCESS, AND THAT [02:50:05] GIVES CRIMINALS THE RIGHT TO [02:50:06] KEEP DOING WHAT THEY ARE DOING. HOST: MARIO, NEW YORK, [02:50:10] INDEPENDENT. GOOD MORNING. [02:50:13] IT IS OPEN FORUM WHERE YOU CAN TALK ABOUT ANY PUBLIC POLICY ISSUE OR POLITICAL ISSUE ON YOUR [02:50:17] MIND. CALLER: THANK YOU, JASMINE. [02:50:21] IT IS SUCH AN HONOR TO BE HERE ON C-SPAN. [02:50:24] WE LOVE C-SPAN, ESPECIALLY IN NEW YORK. I JUST WANTED TO SAY WE CANNOT [02:50:28] LOSE HOPE. WE'VE GOT TO KEEP HOPE. [02:50:32] WE HAVE GOT TO KEEP OUR VIGILANCE. [02:50:34] WE CANNOT ROLL BACK AND GO BACK [02:50:38] IN TIME AND UNDO ALL THE WORK OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS AND ALL THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE, ALL THE [02:50:42] PROGRESS WE HAVE MADE, SO WE [02:50:45] HAVE GOT TO KEEP RESILIENCY, WE [02:50:48] HAVE GOT TO BE INDEPENDENT. [02:50:50] I THINK INDEPENDENT IS THE MOST [02:50:54] IMPORTANT PLACE FOR BLACK AND INDIGENOUS PEOPLE TO BE AT THIS [02:50:58] TIME IN THE ELECTION MOVING FORWARD. [02:51:00] I ALSO WANT TO WISH HAPPY SWEET [02:51:06] 16. HOST: HAPPY SWEET 16. [02:51:13] ALFRED, NORTH CAROLINA, INDEPENDENT. THE MORNING. IT IS OPEN FORUM. [02:51:16] CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [02:51:18] HOW YOU DOING? [02:51:21] SPEAKING ABOUT IRAN, ONE THING [02:51:24] WE NEED TO DO IN IRAN, WE REALLY [02:51:27] NEED TO GO BACK AND TEACH THE [02:51:32] AMERICAN CITIZEN ABOUT THE HISTORY OF IRAN. WHILE WE ARE IN THIS SITUATION [02:51:36] WITH IRAN. [02:51:40] WITH IRAN SENDING DEATH TO AMERICA, THIS STARTED WITH THE [02:51:44] OVERTHROWING OF THE DEMOCRAT ELECTED GOVERNMENT OF IRAQ. [02:51:48] OUR CRIME WOULD HAVE ON YOUR GOVERNMENT, GAS OR SOME ART HAVE [02:51:52] OVER THERE IN YOUR GOVERNMENT, [02:51:55] -- IF SOMEONE JUST HAD [02:52:05] APOLOGIZED TO IRAN, SAID WE WERE [02:52:06] WRONG, WE MADE A MISTAKE, THEY [02:52:10] COULD DO THAT. YOU ARE. HOST: THIS IS AN OPEN FORUM, [02:52:14] WHERE YOU CAN TALK ABOUT ANY PUBLIC POLICY ISSUE OR POLITICAL [02:52:16] ISSUE ON YOUR MIND. [02:52:21] REPUBLICANS, (202)-748-8001. [02:52:24] DEMOCRATS, (202)-748-8000. [02:52:30] INDEPENDENT,S (202)-748-8002. GET YOUR COMMENTS AND BEFORE THE [02:52:34] END OF THE SHOW. CAROLYN, OHIO, DEMOCRAT. [02:52:37] GOOD MORNING. [02:52:45] CALLER: GOOD MORNING. I DID TUNE IN LATE, BUT I HEARD INFLATION MENTIONED. [02:52:47] IT IS OBVIOUS WITH THE TARIFFS, [02:52:53] WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP STARTED OUT [02:52:56] WITH HUGE TARIFFS, SOME OF THEM [02:53:03] ILLEGAL BY THE SUPREME COURT, OF COURSE, BUT HE HAS PUT 10% [02:53:07] TARIFFS ON. [02:53:09] IT IS A WONDER THAT INFLATION IS [02:53:12] NOT 10%. WE GET SO MANY IMPORTED GOODS. [02:53:15] SOME THINGS ARE MANUFACTURED HERE, PUT TOGETHER FROM PARTS [02:53:19] OVERSEAS. [02:53:20] I MEAN, THERE IS A WHOLE LINE OF IMPORTED GOODS, INCLUDING FOOD. [02:53:25] SO, YEAH. IF WE KEEP THOSE TARIFFS, YOU [02:53:29] BETTER EXPECT INFLATION. THAT IS PRETTY MUCH IT FOR NOW. [02:53:33] THANK YOU. HOST: THAT WAS CAROLYN FROM [02:53:40] OHIO. TRAVIS, COLORADO, INDEPENDENT. [02:53:43] GOOD MORNING, TRAVIS. CALLER: HELLO, YES MA'AM. [02:53:46] YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT [02:53:50] MESSAGING. WE HAVE A SITUATION NOW WHERE [02:53:53] PEOPLE WANT TO CONFUSE SOCIAL [02:53:56] SYSTEM WITH COMMUNISM. [02:54:01] ESSENTIALLY SAYING IT IS NOT THE AMERICAN WAY. [02:54:04] I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, ALONG [02:54:07] WITH THE GENERAL WELFARE CLAUSE IN THE CONSTITUTION, IF YOU [02:54:10] REVIEW ARTICLE SIX, IT CLEARLY POINTS OUT THE ARTICLES OF [02:54:14] CONFEDERACY, WHERE WE HAVE THINGS LIKE THE LAND ACT WHERE [02:54:17] IT SAYS THAT 640 ACRES FOR EVERY [02:54:20] 36 SQUARE MILES IS ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO BE DEDICATED TO [02:54:24] GENERATE MONEY FOR EDUCATION, SO [02:54:28] WHILE PEOPLE SAY, IT IS NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO PAY FOR OTHER [02:54:32] CHILDREN'S EDUCATION, THE REALITY IS, IT IS NOT ACTUALLY THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE [02:54:36] FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO GENERATE [02:54:37] TAX, BUT LANDED EVERY TOWNSHIP [02:54:43] IN AMERICA IS SPECIFICALLY TO PAY FOR THIS PURPOSE. [02:54:46] WHEN WE SAY WE WOULD RATHER [02:54:48] PRIVATIZE HEALTH CARE, EDUCATION [02:54:51] AND PASS OFF ALL GOVERNMENT RESPONSIBILITY TO THE [02:54:55] CORPORATIONS AND PRIVATE INDUSTRY TO PROFIT RATHER THAN [02:54:58] THE PEOPLE BENEFITING FROM IT, I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT [02:55:02] IS CONSIDERED COMMUNISM WHEN IT [02:55:03] IS ACTUALLY THE IDEAL, THE [02:55:07] THINGS OUR FOUNDING FATHERS AND THE CONSTITUTION ACTUALLY [02:55:11] WANTED. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU TAKING MY CALL. THANK YOU. I HOPE YOU HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY. [02:55:15] HOST: THAT IS TRAVIS FROM [02:55:19] COLORADO. AN INDEPENDENT. ANOTHER STORY WE ARE TRACKING [02:55:23] CAME YESTERDAY. THE HEADLINE FROM USA TODAY, [02:55:26] TRUMP SET TO DISMISS, DECLARE A [02:55:28] NATIONAL EMERGENCY TO RESTRICT VOTING. [02:55:32] IT SAYS THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP AND [02:55:35] SENATOR'S PAST SAVE AMERICA ACT, LEGISLATION THAT WOULD REQUIRE [02:55:39] PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP TO REGISTER [02:55:41] TO VOTE AND PHOTO ID WHEN CASTING ABOUT IT HAS STRUGGLED [02:55:47] ATTRACT ENOUGH SUPPORT IN THE [02:55:49] SENATE LAWMAKERS LEFT FOR THEIR AUGUST RECESS WITHOUT PASSING [02:55:53] THAT. IN AN INTERVIEW, THE PRESIDENT SAID STRANGER THINGS HAVE [02:55:57] HAPPENED WHEN ASKED IF HE WOULD ESTABLISH AN EMERGENCY, A [02:56:01] NATIONAL SECURITY EMERGENCY TO [02:56:04] PUT A NEW VOTING RESTRICTIONS. [02:56:06] [VIDEO CLIP] [02:56:09] >> LET ME PUT AN IDEA IN YOUR HEAD. BECAUSE IT IS SO HARD TO GET THE SENATE TO DO ANYTHING NOW THAT [02:56:13] THEY ARE IN RECESS, THEY DON'T [02:56:15] GET ANYTHING DONE. IF THEY NEVER GET THE SAVE [02:56:19] AMERICA ACT DONE, YOU HAVE THE [02:56:21] RIGHT TO DECLARE A NATIONAL SECURITY EMERGENCY FOR ELECTIONS, AND THE SUPREME COURT [02:56:25] RULE OF 1983 UNDER REAGAN. INS [02:56:30] VERSUS CHANA, THAT IF YOU DECLARE A NATIONAL SECURITY EMERGENCY AS PRESIDENT OF THE [02:56:34] UNITED STATES, THEY CANNOT [02:56:37] CHALLENGE IT. IT CAN ONLY BE OVERTURNED BY A TWO THIRDS VOTE OF BOTH HOUSES [02:56:41] OF CONGRESS. SO IF YOU DO THIS IN THE NEXT [02:56:43] MONTH, WE WILL GET PHOTO ID, [02:56:47] PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP, AND A [02:56:49] LIMIT TO MAIL-IN BALLOTS. PRES. TRUMP: LET ME JUST SAY [02:56:53] THIS IF THIS HAPPENS. [02:56:57] [END VIDEO CLIP] [02:57:08] HOST: DOES PRESIDENT TRUMP RESPONDING, SUGGESTING HE COULD PUT IN A NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY TO ENACT VOTING RESTRICTIONS THAT THE PRESIDENT IS PUSHING FOR, WHICH THE SENATE [02:57:12] HAS NOT ADOPTED AND THEY LEFT FOR RECESS. DAN, ARIZONA, REPUBLICAN. [02:57:16] I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO BE QUICK. WE ARE COMING UP ON TIME HERE MY FRIEND. [02:57:18] CALLER: TWO QUESTIONS. [02:57:22] ONE, 20 FEDERAL AUDITORS TRUMP [02:57:25] SENT INTO THE MILITARY -- MINNESOTA PRIMARY, NOT SURE WHAT [02:57:29] THEY DO. I WOULD LOVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY DO. WHAT DID THEY DO? [02:57:33] THE OTHER THING IS, TRUMP, IF HE [02:57:37] DOES FOR US TO SAVE AMERICA ACT [02:57:39] IN THE MANNER THAT THE LAST [02:57:43] CALLER SAID, THAN I BELIEVE THIS IS A NONPARTISAN ISSUE. [02:57:45] THE UNITED STATES SHOULD GO ON GENERAL STRIKE. [02:57:49] THAT IS IT. THANK YOU. [02:57:53] HOST: THAT IS DAN FROM ARIZONA. [02:57:56] RICHARD, DEMOCRAT, MISSOURI. GOOD MORNING. [02:57:59] YOU ARE AN OPEN FORUM. CALLER: I GUESS I'M ONE OF THEM [02:58:06] SOCIALIST DEMOCRATS. [02:58:16] BUT [INDISCERNIBLE] [02:58:22] AND PEOPLE THINK THAT IS WHERE [02:58:23] THERE IS TO BELIEVE. [02:58:30] WE WANTED A BUSINESS MAN FOR PRESIDENT. WELL, WE GOT ONE. [02:58:33] HE'S MAKING MORE MONEY THAN HE THOUGHT HE EVER COULD. [02:58:37] THIS TRILLION DOLLARS OF DEBT WE [02:58:39] GOT, HE'S A BUSINESSMAN. [02:58:44] THE COUNTRY CAN GO BANKRUPT AND [02:58:48] WENT BANKRUPT BEFORE. [02:58:49] ANYHOW, THAT IS FINE. [02:58:54] OUR SOCIAL SECURITY AND EVERYTHING ELSE WILL GO DOWN THE [02:58:56] TUBE WITH THAT. [02:59:00] I WILL GET OFF. [02:59:01] THANK YOU. HOST: STUDY, TAXES, INDEPENDENT. [02:59:06] -- BETTY, TEXAS, INDEPENDENT. [02:59:11] CALLER: HELLO. [02:59:14] YES, I'M VERY CONCERNED. HOST: CAN I HAVE YOU MUTE YOUR TV? [02:59:17] CALLER: OK. [02:59:21] YES. [02:59:24] I'M CALLING, I'M VERY, VERY [02:59:26] CONCERNED. [02:59:29] ANYONE THAT DOES NOT APPROVE THE [02:59:31] SAVE AMERICA ACT TO SECURE [02:59:36] ELECTIONS, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE [02:59:40] HAVE CITIZENS, LEGAL CITIZENS [02:59:42] VOTING IN OUR ELECTION, DO NOT [02:59:47] UNDERSTAND WHY ANYONE IS AGAINST [02:59:50] HAVING SECURED ELECTIONS. [02:59:55] HOST: THAT IS ALL THE TIME WE [02:59:59] HAVE FOR THIS EDITION OF WASHINGTON JOURNAL. [03:00:02] ANOTHER SHOW WILL BE COMING YOUR [03:00:04] WAY TOMORROW MORNING AT 7:00 A.M. EASTERN. 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[03:01:38] >> FRIDAY ON C-SPAN'S [03:01:44] CEASE-FIRE, BIPARTISAN DISCUSSION ON ELECTIONS FEATURING FORMER COLORADO [03:01:48] DEMOCRATIC SENATOR AND FORMER [03:01:52] CONNECTICUT CONGRESSMAN JOINED BY THE POLITICO PLAYBOOK [03:01:55] CO-AUTHOR AND CEASE-FIRE HOST DASHA BURNS, DISCUSSING THE CURRENT STATE OF CONGRESS AND [03:01:59] IMPACT OF