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[00:00:01] WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMIC PRACTICE OF PRESIDENT TRUMP'S
[00:00:04] TARIFF POLICIES ON INVESTORS AND
[00:00:09] CONSUMERS WITH POLITICO VICTORIA
[00:00:14] GEENA. AND THE QUINCY INSTITUTE DISCUSSES NOT ONLY IRAN'S
[00:00:17] ABILITY TO HOLD OFF ATTACKS BY THE U.S. BUT ALSO THE OPTIONS
[00:00:21] LEFT FOR THE TRUMP
[00:00:23] ADMINISTRATION TO CANE THE
[00:00:26] COUNTRY AND GAIN THE CONTROL OF
[00:00:29] STRAIGHT OF HORMUZ.
[00:00:35] WASHINGTON JOURNEY STARTS NOW.
[00:00:41] >> THIS IS THE WASHINGTON JOURNAL AUGUST 22.
[00:00:45] WE'LL START WHAT YOU THINK IS TOP NEWS STORY OF THE WEEK, THE
[00:00:47] SUPREME COURT ON FRIDAY ALLOWING
[00:00:49] THE PRESIDENT TO CONTINUE THE
[00:00:52] ABOVE GROUND PORTION CONSTRUCTION OF HIS BALL ROOM
[00:00:56] PROJECT IT WAS ON HOLD BUT THE
[00:00:59] TEMPORARY ORDER BY JEFF JUSTICE JOHN ROBERTS ALLOWS WORK TO
[00:01:01] CONTINUE FOR NOW BUT THE
[00:01:03] JUSTICES ON THE SUPREME COURT REVIEW THE CASE.
[00:01:07] YOU CAN CHOOSE THAT OR ANOTHER OF THE WEEK'S POLITICAL NEWS AS
[00:01:10] YOUR TOP STORY OF THE WEEK. IF YOU WANT TO CALL US AND LET
[00:01:14] US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK THAT IS,
[00:01:20] 202-748-8001 FOR REPUBLICANS,
[00:01:22] 202-748-8000 FOR DEMOCRATS, AND
[00:01:26] INDEPENDENTS, 202-748-8002.
[00:01:28] TEXT US YOUR SUGGESTIONS OR
[00:01:31] CONTRIBUTIONS IT'S 202-748-8003.
[00:01:33] YOU MAY WANT TO POST ON OUR
[00:01:36] SOCIAL MEDIA SITE.
[00:01:38] YOU CAN DO THAT ON FACEBOOK AT
[00:01:43] FACEBOOK.COM/C-SPAN OR X AT C-SPAN.
[00:01:46] WHEN IT COMES TO THE PRESIDENT
[00:01:49] ABOVE GROUND CONSTRUCTION OF THE BALL ROOM THE SUPREME COURT
[00:01:52] WEIGHED IN YESTERDAY ALLOWING IT ON A TEMPORARY BASIS TO GO FORWARD.
[00:01:56] USA PICKED UP THE STORY SAYING IT WAS THE COURT THAT SAYS THE
[00:01:59] PRESIDENT DOESN'T HAVE TO STOP CONSTRUCTION ON HIS $400 MILLION
[00:02:03] WHITE HOUSE BALL ROOM WHILE THE
[00:02:05] JUSTICES DECIDE WHETHER A JUDGE
[00:02:08] WRONGLY PAUSED THE PROJECT. CHIEF JUSTICE JOHN ROBERTS
[00:02:10] PREVENTED THE JUDGE'S ORDER FROM GOING INTO EFFECT SCHEDULED
[00:02:13] AUGUST 21 GIVING THE JUSTICES MORE TIME TO CONSIDER THE
[00:02:17] PRESIDENT'S APPEALING OF THE RULING IN RESPONSE TO A
[00:02:20] CHALLENGE FROM THE NATIONAL TRUST FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
[00:02:24] A FEDERAL DISTRICT JUDGE RULED THIS SPRING THAT ONLY UNDERGROUND WORK ON BOMB
[00:02:27] SHELTERS AND OTHER SECURITY RELATED COMPONENTS COULD MOVE
[00:02:30] FORWARD FOR NOW UNLESS THE PRESIDENT GETS APPROVAL FROM CONGRESS.
[00:02:34] IT WAS THE NATIONAL TRUST FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION THAT TOLD
[00:02:36] THE JUSTICES THE PROJECT WOULD LIKELY BECOME IRREVERSIBLE
[00:02:40] UNLESS IT STOPPED. JUSTICES SAID IN ITS APPEAL THAT THE CONSTRUCTION WHICH INCLUDES
[00:02:45] AN UNDERGROUND SECURITY COMPLEX
[00:02:47] IS 55% COMPLETE. AND IS PASS POINT WHERE MAJOR
[00:02:50] CHANGE TO DESIGN ARE FEASIBLE. TOOK PLACE ON THE SUPREME COURT
[00:02:53] PORTION YESTERDAY.
[00:02:55] IT WAS THE PRESIDENT TRAVELING
[00:02:58] TO SOUTH CAROLINA TO CAMPAIGN BY SENATOR DARLINE GRAHAM AND DURING THE EVENT YOU CAN STILL
[00:03:02] SEE ON C-SPAN HE MENTIONED NOT ONLY THE BALL ROOM PROJECT BUT
[00:03:06] THE SUPREME COURT'S ACTIONS HERE'S THE PRESIDENT FROM YESTERDAY ON THAT.
[00:03:10] TRUMP: WE JUST LEARNED THAT THE
[00:03:14] BIG DECISION OF THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT CAME DOWN
[00:03:17] AND THE MILITARY/BALL ROOM IS
[00:03:24] BEAUTIFUL. MAGNIFICENT COMPLEX. BEING BUILT ON THE HALLOWED
[00:03:28] GROUNDS OF OUR CHERISHED WHITE
[00:03:31] HOUSE, WHICH IS SO VITAL FOR NATIONAL SECURITY WILL BE IT
[00:03:35] WILL BE THE GREATEST OF ITS KIND
[00:03:38] ANYWHERE THAT'S EVER BEEN BUILT AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT
[00:03:40] PRESIDENTS WANTED TO BE BUILT FOR OVER 150 YEARS.
[00:03:43] WE HAVE A TINY ROOM NOW IT'S
[00:03:45] BEEN THAT WAY FOR YEARS.
[00:03:48] IT CALL EAST RECENTLY SEATS 88 PEOPLE.
[00:03:51] AND AS AN EXAMPLE IN TWO WEEKS, PRESIDENT XI OF CHINA IS COMING
[00:03:55] AND I WISH WE HAD A BALL ROOM.
[00:03:57] BUT IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME IN
[00:03:59] A YEAR FROM NOW, YOU'LL HAVE ONE
[00:04:02] OF THE GREATEST ANYWHERE IN THE
[00:04:04] WORLD, AND THE MILITARY IS BEING
[00:04:07] TAKEN CARE OF BECAUSE OF THE MILITARY COMPONENT FOR DRONES
[00:04:11] AND FOR MISSILES AND FOR BULLET-PROOF GLASS AND ALL OF
[00:04:14] THE THINGS YOU'VE NEEDED THE MILITARY WANTED THIS DONE 100
[00:04:17] YEARS AND PRESIDENTS WANTED IT
[00:04:19] DONE FOR 150 YEARS SO I JUST
[00:04:24] WANT TO THANKING THE SUPREME
[00:04:26] COURT AND THE CHIEF JUSTICE AND
[00:04:29] WE HAVE A RULING THAT PROCEED
[00:04:35] WHEN THEY SAY PROCEED I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING.
[00:04:39] NOTHING IS EASY TODAY. AND CONSTRUCTION IS UNDER BUDGET
[00:04:42] AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.
[00:04:44] UNDER BUDGET AND AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.
[00:04:47] AND WE BUILD MORE BEAUTIFUL THAN ANYBODY ELSE >> THAT WAS YESTERDAY YOU CAN
[00:04:51] CHOOSE THAT BALL ROOM PROJECT AS A TOP STORY, YOU CAN CHOOSE
[00:04:53] OTHER STORIES WHEN IT COMES TO
[00:04:55] POLITICS AS YOUR TOP STORY OF THE WEEK.
[00:04:59] CALL US 202-748-8001 FOR
[00:05:02] REPUBLICAN, DEMOCRATS,
[00:05:05] 202-748-8000, INDEPENDENTS, 202-748-8002 FOR HIS PART IT WAS
[00:05:09] A SENATE MINORITY LEADER CHUCK
[00:05:10] SCHUMER ON X POSTING ABOUT THE SUPREME COURT'S DECISION ON THE
[00:05:14] BALL ROOM PROJECT HE SAID THE MAGA SUPREME COURT IS RUB R
[00:05:18] STAMPING TRUMP'S VANITY GIVEN
[00:05:23] CORRUPTION. THE ADMINISTRATION IS WASTING
[00:05:26] MONEY ON ENDLESS AND ILLEGAL WAR
[00:05:29] CORPORATE GIVE AWAYS, DEMOCRATS ARE LASER FOCUSED ON THE ISSUES
[00:05:31] THAT APPEAL TO AMERICANS.
[00:05:37] AND SO THAT'S THE STATEMENT FROM CHUCK SCHUMER.
[00:05:39] UP FOR GRABS WHEN IT COMES TO
[00:05:41] YOUR TOP STORIES ON MISSISSIPPI DEMOCRAT LINE LINDA STARTS US
[00:05:45] OFF THIS MORNING, LINDA WHAT WOULD YOU CONSIDER A TOP STORY.
[00:05:48] GUEST: SO MANY, BUT I'M GOING TO
[00:05:53] BEGIN WITH THE BALL ROOM.
[00:05:55] AND THE ILLEGITIMATE SUPREME COURT.
[00:05:59] THEY USED TO PASS OUT RULINGS BY
[00:06:01] LAW AND BY PRECEDENT.
[00:06:05] BUT WITH THIS PRESIDENT IN
[00:06:10] OFFICE, THE BIG BEAUTIFUL BALL
[00:06:12] ROOM WE ARE IN, HE DO NOT USE
[00:06:16] HIS MONEY FOR ANYTHING BUT
[00:06:19] HIMSELF.
[00:06:21] AND HIS SONS THIS IS THE MOST
[00:06:23] CORRUPT ADMINISTRATION I HAVE EVER SEEN.
[00:06:26] I'M 75 YEARS OLD.
[00:06:29] I'VE ALWAYS SAID THAT THE
[00:06:31] REPUBLICANS WAS A RACIST PARTY
[00:06:33] AND A CROOKED PARTY.
[00:06:37] AND IT ONLY TOOK TRUMP TO PUT US IN OFF THE WHOLE THING.
[00:06:41] HOST: WHAT IS IT ABOUT THE BALL ROOM THAT BOTHERS YOU THE MOST
[00:06:44] >> IT IS TOO BIG, TOO UGLY.
[00:06:48] AND IT COSTS TOO MUCH.
[00:06:51] WE AS AMERICANS CANNOT AFFORD
[00:06:54] GROCERIES, GAS, HEALTH INSURANCE.
[00:06:57] AND HE IS OUT HERE SPENDING OUR
[00:06:59] MONEY JUST LIKE IT'S WATER THROUGH HIS FINGERS.
[00:07:03] THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, HE DID IN
[00:07:07] THE, AND BESIDES, THAT PART OF
[00:07:11] THE WHITE HOUSE WAS HISTORIC. HE HAD NO BUSINESS TEARING IT DOWN, IT'S NOT HIS HOUSE, IT'S
[00:07:15] OUR HOUSE. HOST: LINDA IN MISSISSIPPI.
[00:07:18] WITH THE BALL ROOM IS HER TOP STORY.
[00:07:21] LET'S HEAR FROM PAUL IN FLORIDA. REPUBLICAN LINE AGAIN SAME THING WHEN IT COMES TO POLITICAL NEWS.
[00:07:25] WHAT RISES TO THE TOP FOR YOU, PAUL
[00:07:28] >> WELL, I'M SURPRISED I HAVEN'T
[00:07:32] HEARD ANYTHING ON YOUR NETWORK ABOUT MICHIGAN AND THE SECRETARY
[00:07:35] OF STATE AUTOMATICALLY REGISTERING THESE ILLEGALS INTO
[00:07:39] VOTING THEY CAN MOVE AND GET REGISTERED AGAIN AUTOMATICALLY
[00:07:43] AND A SHERIFF HAD A WHISTLE BLOWER FROM THE MICHIGAN
[00:07:46] SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE THAT REPORTED ALL THIS.
[00:07:49] AND I HEAR NOTHING BUT CRICKETS FROM THE DEMOCRATS ON THIS AND
[00:07:53] I'M SURPRISED. BUT AS FAR AS THE BALL ROOM FROM
[00:07:57] LAST CALLER, I'D ALWAYS LIKE TO SAY THAT'S NOT COSTING THE
[00:08:00] TAXPAYER ONE RED CENT.
[00:08:02] THAT'S ALL DONATIONS AND MONEY
[00:08:06] COMING OUT OF MR. TRUMP POCKET. PRESIDENT TRUMP'S POCKET.
[00:08:10] BEST PRESIDENT WE EVER HAD IN THE HISTORY OF OF THIS COUNTRY.
[00:08:12] THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. HOST: THAT'S PAUL THERE.
[00:08:16] BALL ROOM HIS CHOICE AGAIN, YOU
[00:08:18] CAN TALK ABOUT THE BALL ROOM OR OTHER THINGS WHEN IT COMES TO
[00:08:22] THIS IDEA OF YOUR TOP STORY. WHATEVER IS OF INTEREST TO YOU
[00:08:26] POLITICALLY LET'S TRY
[00:08:28] CONNECTICUT DEMOCRATS LINE AND A HELLO. GUEST: HELLO.
[00:08:33] I WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE ALL OF
[00:08:36] THE BILLING AND COMMOTION GOING ON IN THE BALL ROOM AND THE
[00:08:40] BUILDING UNDER THE BALL ROOM. WHAT BUILDING CODES ARE THEY
[00:08:44] USING TO DO THIS? EVERY WORKER CHOSEN TO WORK I
[00:08:48] THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE A
[00:08:51] BACKGROUND SOME KIND OF SECURITY
[00:08:56] BACKGROUND CHECK. WE KNOW THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS
[00:08:59] AGAINST EVERYBODY IN THE USA,
[00:09:01] AND EVERY DAY DISTRACTIONS HE GIVE US.
[00:09:04] AND I SHOULD BE ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THAT BUILDING.
[00:09:06] WHO KNOWS WHAT HE'S PLANNING FOR
[00:09:10] THE FUTURE WHEN HE LEAVES.
[00:09:12] I MEAN, WHAT REVENGE.
[00:09:17] TO SATISFY PUTIN AND NORTH KOREA. WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THESE WORKERS.
[00:09:21] ARE THEY CITIZENS? IS THERE QUALITY CONTROL BEING DONE ON THE WORK?
[00:09:24] ARE THEY FAITHFUL OR LOYAL TO
[00:09:27] DONALD TRUMP?
[00:09:30] MEANING WHO IS CHECKING TO SEE
[00:09:34] IF SOPHISTICATED BOMBS ARE BEING
[00:09:35] PLANTED UNDER THE BUILDING.
[00:09:41] THAT CAN BE ACTIVATED BY REMOTE
[00:09:44] CONTROL OR A DRONE WAS ALL OF
[00:09:47] THOSE FIBER OPT CABLES, WHEN
[00:09:50] THEY LEAVE THE OFFICE HE WILL
[00:09:54] PARDON HIMSELF SOME PEOPLE ON
[00:09:55] THE SUPREME COURT AND EVERYTHING
[00:09:58] IN THE FUTURE THAT HE DOES. HOST: ANNA IN CONNECTICUT.
[00:10:02] LET'S TRY JAY IN ALABAMA REPUBLICAN LINE.
[00:10:05] TOP STORY OF THE WEEK.
[00:10:08] GUEST: GOOD MORNING.
[00:10:09] TOP STORY OF THE WEEK.
[00:10:13] TAKE THIS CALL FOR THE MONTH MY
[00:10:15] INPUT AS A FORUM AMERICAN
[00:10:18] CITIZEN TO SAY THERE'S TOO MUCH CORRUPTION AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS
[00:10:21] OF OF THIS COUNTRY.
[00:10:22] SPECIFICALLY WITH CORPORATIONS.
[00:10:25] I WANT TO MENTION ONE AND IT'S
[00:10:27] CALL MONIS AN TOE, IT CAME INTO
[00:10:32] ACCOUNT IN ANNISTON ALABAMA AND RUINED IT.
[00:10:34] THERE'S A GREAT VIDEO ON THE
[00:10:36] INTERNET GOING TO THIS AND IT RUINED, DESTROYED IT POISON THE
[00:10:40] RIVER, POND, FISH, KILLED PEOPLE. CAME INTO THE TOWN AND BOUGHT UP
[00:10:43] PEOPLE IN FACTORY IS STILL HERE
[00:10:46] THE PLANT IS STILL HERE.
[00:10:48] AND THEY JUST OPERATE WITH IMMUNITY.
[00:10:52] THEY WERE AT THE WHITE HOUSE NOT TOO LONG AGO WITH TRUMP. THE COMPANY TAKEN OVER
[00:10:55] EVERYTHING TAKEN OVER FARMS,
[00:10:58] PROBABLY PUT MOST FARMS OUT OF BUSINESS WITH THEIR SUICIDE
[00:11:01] SEEDS, YOU KNOW, THEIR ROUND-UP,
[00:11:04] I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT.
[00:11:07] IT'S POINT I WANT TO MAKE IS WHY IN THIS COUNTRY IS IS THIS LOUD?
[00:11:11] THIS HARMED PEOPLE. HURTING PEOPLE.
[00:11:15] IF I AN AMERICAN CITIZEN PUT CHEMICALS IN THE STREAM I'M SURE
[00:11:18] I WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. BUT THESE COMPANIES ARE
[00:11:22] INSULATED BECAUSE I THINK WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS COUNTRY IS THERE'S GROUPS THAT OWN OF THIS COUNTRY.
[00:11:26] I THINK THERE'S DEEPLY IMBEDDED GROUPS.
[00:11:28] I THINK THAT WE GO ALONG WITH THE GAME.
[00:11:31] WE HAVE A GOVERNMENT LIKE A COLONY A SHOW LIKE THIS AND
[00:11:34] VOICE MY OPINION BUT THERE'S REALLY NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.
[00:11:37] I THINK THAT IT'S TOTALLY OUT OF OUR HAND, I THINK WE CAN VOTE
[00:11:41] OUR WAY OUT OF THIS IF MACHINES
[00:11:46] WERE PROPER, BASICALLY READ THAT
[00:11:48] PUT THAT MONSANTO IS A HORRIBLE COMPANY. SHOULDN'T OPERATE.
[00:11:51] HOST: SOME OF YOU CONTRIBUTING BY FACEBOOK THIS MORNING, THIS
[00:11:54] IS STEVE HEAD HENDRICK FROM
[00:11:56] FACEBOOK SAYING DEMOCRATS HAVE
[00:11:59] NO ACTUAL PLAN FOR SOLVING
[00:12:01] ISSUES.
[00:12:03] I'M ASSUMING HE'S SAYS
[00:12:06] DEMOCRATIC SOCIAL OF ITS OF AMERICAN, SOUL CAMPAIGN TRAGEDY
[00:12:10] IS LABEL ANYONE OPPOSING THEM
[00:12:13] EVIL AND WAITING FOR DEMOCRATS
[00:12:15] TO OFFER PLANS OR PROMISE
[00:12:17] ANYTHING THAT CAN ACTUALLY HAPPEN.
[00:12:20] SALLY SCHWARTZ FROM FACEBOOK SAYING THAT SHE IS TIRED OF THE
[00:12:24] PRESIDENT AND TALKING ABOUT HIS PET PROJECTS AND NOT ABOUT
[00:12:28] FIXING THE ECONOMY. HE PUTS ON BLINDERS FROM THE
[00:12:31] START WHY DO AMERICAN CITIZENS PUT UP WITH HIM?
[00:12:34] AGAIN FACEBOOK.
[00:12:36] IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THOSE COMMENTS THERE
[00:12:40] FACEBOOK.COM/C-SPAN HOW YOU DO THAT ON AT C-SPAN WJ IT WAS
[00:12:44] DURING HIS OWN EFFORTS TO WIN REELECTION THAT SENATOR JOHN
[00:12:48] HOSOF A DEMOCRAT FROM GEORGIA BROUGHT UP THE BALL ROOM PROJECT
[00:12:52] ALSO BRINGING UP IN THE SAME SENTENCE COMMENTS ABOUT THE
[00:12:54] PRESIDENT'S AID THAT'S BEEN IN
[00:12:57] THE NEWS NATALIE HARP.
[00:12:59] HERE IS SENATOR AUSOFF.
[00:13:03] >> WHILE THE SAILORS ON THE
[00:13:06] LINCOLN FIGHT HIS WAR, WHILE HE
[00:13:10] FRUITLESSLY DRAINS OUR MUNITIONS
[00:13:13] AND OIL RESERVES, THE PRESIDENT SLEEPS THROUGH HIS MEETINGS.
[00:13:16] HE GOLFS AND TRADES STOCKS.
[00:13:20] HE DOESN'T WANT TO DO THE JOB. HE WANTS TO BUILD HIS BALL ROOM
[00:13:23] AND TRAVELS WITH FDALY ON THEIR
[00:13:29] APPARENTLY DEFENSELESS FLYING PALACE GIFTED BY QATAR.
[00:13:32] HOST: SEE THE EVENT ON OUR C-SPAN WEBSITE IF YOU WANT TO
[00:13:36] SEE THAT. TIMOTHY IN OHIO DEMOCRAT LINE
[00:13:40] TOP NEWS STORY OF THE WEEK.
[00:13:47] GUEST: HELLO. THE COWARDEST OF THE SUPREME COURT AND JOHN POWERS SHOULD BE
[00:13:50] IMPEACHED FOR HIS DECISION. THAT WAS ALL. THANK YOU.
[00:13:53] HOST: WHAT WAS WRONG WITH HIS
[00:13:56] DECISION IN YOUR OPINION. CALLER: WASTING ALL THAT MONEY
[00:14:00] ON A BALL ROOM THAT'S NOT NEEDED.
[00:14:02] IT'S JUST A VANITY PROJECT.
[00:14:12] AND SUPREME COURT NEEDS REFORM
[00:14:17] SOMEHOW. THEY HAVE SICK THAT SHOULDN'T BE THERE.
[00:14:19] HOST: TIMOTHY IN OHIO. LET'S HEAR FROM THOMAS IN
[00:14:23] MINNESOTA INDEPENDENT LINE.
[00:14:26] HELLO, THOMAS.
[00:14:31] CALLER: GOOD MORNING. I BELIEVE TRUMP IS A DISASTER, HE NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN
[00:14:35] ALLOWED TO GET ON THE BALLOT IN THE FIRST PLACE IN COLORADO.
[00:14:38] THE SUPREME COURT TOTALLY DESTROYED OF THIS COUNTRY, MY
[00:14:40] SOLUTION IS YOU HAVE SIX NEW
[00:14:45] JUSTICES, RANDOM OUT OF NINE BECAUSE THEN YOU WON'T
[00:14:48] NECESSARILY GET TO HAVE YOUR
[00:14:49] CASH BUDDY WON'T GET TO VOTE ON
[00:14:53] HIS PROJECT. I CALL HIM INJUSTICE PUBIC HAIR.
[00:14:56] HOST: ASIDE FROM THE LANGUAGE, I WANT TO REITERATE IT'S A
[00:15:00] TEMPORARY HOLD ON THE PROJECT NOT PERMANENT WHILE THE JUSTICES
[00:15:04] DECIDE ON THE FUTURE OF IT AT LEAST THE ABOVE GROUND PORTIONS
[00:15:08] BUT GO AHEAD AND WATCH THE PHONE PLEASE AND LANGUAGE AND USE OF
[00:15:11] WORDS. GO AHEAD. CALLER: CLARENCE THOMAS IS THE
[00:15:14] GREATEST RECIPIENT OF DEA AND HE
[00:15:17] PULLED UP THE LADDER BEHIND HIM.
[00:15:20] THE MAGA CROWD IS THE MOST
[00:15:23] STUPID BRAIN WASHED PEOPLE IT'S
[00:15:27] JUST -- I POSTED THEY NEED DAILY
[00:15:30] REMINDERS TO BREATHE.
[00:15:32] MY HEAD HAS BEEN EXPLODING FOR TWO YEARS WITH THE CRUTCHING OF
[00:15:36] STRUCTURE OF OF THIS COUNTRY. SINCE TRUMP ELECTED HOW MANY
[00:15:39] PEOPLE KILLED, HOW MANY WEAPONS
[00:15:46] EXPLODED AND NOW WE HAVE TO REPLACE.
[00:15:49] IT'S A TOTAL DISASTER.
[00:15:51] AND LATER WE ROLL ON FORGETTING TREASON AND JANUARY 6.
[00:15:55] WE DON'T WE GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING. PUT.
[00:15:59] HOST: JOHN REPUBLICAN LINE IN CALIFORNIA.
[00:16:02] CALLER: GOOD MORNING.
[00:16:05] WHAT A GUY TO FOLLOW. BUT I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE
[00:16:09] BALL ROOM AND REMIND EVERYBODY
[00:16:12] THIS WILL BE STANDING FOR ABOUT
[00:16:21] 100 YEARS.
[00:16:43] THE MONEY IS NOT THAT MUCH FOR
[00:16:45] IT.
[00:16:48] FOR HOW MUCH VETO TRIAL.
[00:16:52] THEY TELL US HOW BAD EVERYTHING IS.
[00:16:55] THEY TELL US HOW WE'RE ALL FAILING AND WE'RE NOT.
[00:16:59] OF THIS COUNTRY AND THIS PERIOD RIGHT NOW IS THE GREATEST TIME
[00:17:02] EVER IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND.
[00:17:05] WE LIVE IN THE GREATEST COUNTRY,
[00:17:07] 100 YEARS AGO, THESE DEMOCRATS WOULD HAVE TO GO OUT AND GO
[00:17:10] SHOOT THEIR OWN DINNER.
[00:17:13] SO WE HAVE ALL THE MORE THAN CONVENIENCES.
[00:17:16] WE HAVE MEDICINE, WE HAVE CARS. WE HAVE AIRPLANES.
[00:17:20] WE HAVE EVERYTHING THAT DIDN'T
[00:17:22] EXIST 100 YEARS AGO AND IF THESE
[00:17:25] PEOPLE CAN'T SEE WHAT -- HOW
[00:17:27] GREAT WE ARE, AND WITH GRATITUDE
[00:17:29] THAT WE HAVE THIS, IT JUST BLOWS
[00:17:33] MY MIND THAT THE DEMOCRATS HATE
[00:17:36] AMERICA SO MUCH THEY SHUT THE GOVERNMENT DOWN TWICE.
[00:17:39] THEY JUST RAIDS -- JUST HAD AU
[00:17:45] STOP ON THERE SAYING HOW BAD EVERYTHING IS WHICH ACTUALLY IT'S REALLY IF.
[00:17:50] YOU DON'T BELIEVE HOW GOOD IT IS. IF YOU WERE LIVING 100 YEARS AGO
[00:17:53] AND TODAY, THERE'S QUITE A
[00:17:56] DIFFERENCE IN YOUR STANDARD OF
[00:18:00] LIVING. HOST: THAT'S JOHN ANOTHER RELATED STORY TO THE BALL ROOM
[00:18:02] PROJECT SOMETHING WE MAY SEE WHEN THE HOUSE AND SENATE COME
[00:18:06] BACK INTO SESSION, MONEY WHEN IT
[00:18:09] COMES TO FEDERAL MONEY FOR THE BALL ROOM PROJECT BUT
[00:18:12] SPECIFICALLY SECURITY RELATED ASPECT.
[00:18:14] THIS IS ABC REPORTING BY STEVEN
[00:18:17] PORT NOID FROM EARLIER THIS YEAR
[00:18:20] BUT ATTEMPTS TO GET MONEY FOR THE SECURITY RELATED PARTS.
[00:18:23] THAT'S WHEN IT COMES TO THE FEDERAL TAXPAYER, THERE'S OTHER
[00:18:26] THINGS TOO, WHICH SOME OF YOU BROUGHT OUT. AGAIN YOU CAN TALK ABOUT ISSUES
[00:18:29] WHEN IT COMES TO THE BALL ROOM
[00:18:32] AND OTHER THINGS TOO.
[00:18:35] AND INDIANA DEMOCRATS LINE.
[00:18:38] NEXT UP THIS IS SHAR LEE HELLO.
[00:18:41] CALLER: THE GUY ON A CALLED A LITTLE BIT AGO AND SAID THE
[00:18:45] TAXPAYER AREN'T PAYING ONE RED CENT AND YOU KNOW THAT'S NOT TRUE.
[00:18:48] AND YOU JUST LET IT SLIDE. PLEASE PULL UP THE AMOUNTS THAT
[00:18:51] THE TAXPAYERS ARE GOING TO BE PAYING FOR THIS, DONALD TRUMP
[00:18:54] EVEN SAID THIS IS MOSTLY COMING OUT OF THE TAXPAYERS.
[00:18:58] JUST REMEMBER, FOLKS, AS EASILY
[00:19:01] AS THAT EAST WING CAME DOWN,
[00:19:04] THIS BALL ROOM CAN COME DOWN.
[00:19:08] HOST: "WASHINGTON POST" FOLLOWING UP ON THE COMMENTS PREVIOUS TO THE COMMENTS IN MAY,
[00:19:12] SAYING PREVIOUSLY REPORTED THE
[00:19:15] PROJECTED COST OF THE EAST
[00:19:16] WITHIN 600 MILLION COME HALF
[00:19:19] COMING FROM TAXPAYERS, THE DOCUMENTS INCLUDE COST OF
[00:19:22] UPGRADES NEARBY BY LAFAYETTE
[00:19:26] SQUARE, HELL PAD VISITING CENTER
[00:19:30] AND OTHER PROSECUTES WOULD DRIVE 927 MILLION, THE WHITE HOUSE DID
[00:19:34] NOT ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SOURCE OF ALL FUNDING FOR THE
[00:19:36] TOTAL COST OF THE PLAN WORK.
[00:19:38] SAID THE MONEY WAS BEE SPENT IN A MANNER CONSISTENT WITH
[00:19:42] CONGRESS'S ORIGINAL INTENT. SAMUEL IS ON OUR INDEPENDENT
[00:19:46] LINE. YOUR TOP NEWS STORY FROM MICHIGAN. GO AHEAD.
[00:19:49] CALLER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. TAKING MY CALL.
[00:19:52] I WANTED TO ECHO WHAT THE LAST
[00:19:54] CALLER SAID IT'S ROUGHLY ABOUT
[00:19:56] $400 MILLION TO THE TAXPAYERS.
[00:19:59] ANYTHING FROM SECRET SERVICE TO
[00:20:01] MILITARY OFFICE, TO ANCILLARY
[00:20:04] COST THE TAXPAYERS WILL HAVE TO
[00:20:06] ABSORBED FOR THIS UNNECESSARY BALL ROOM ONE OF THE UNNECESSARY
[00:20:10] ACTIONS IN OWN COSTING US TO PAY
[00:20:16] HIGHER COSTS TARIFFS, EPSTEIN FILES BUT THE GENTLEMEN SAID IF
[00:20:18] WE GO BY 100 YEARS AGO AS AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN I DEFINITELY DO
[00:20:21] NOT WISH TO GO BACK AND LIVE IN
[00:20:24] THE AMERICA FROM 100 YEARS AGO. WE CANNOT BE DISCONNECTED PEOPLE
[00:20:27] THE PRICE OF THINGS ARE GOING UP.
[00:20:30] THE LIBERTIES ARE BEING STRIPPED
[00:20:32] AWAY AND PLEASE FACT CHECK NOT ALLOWED INDIVIDUALS TO CALL ON
[00:20:36] THESE GRANTS TODAY REQUIRING MEMBERS AND YOU DON'T BOTHER TO
[00:20:39] TRY TO PUT THEM BACK IN THE SQUARE. HOST: I JUST READ TWO STORIES
[00:20:43] RELATED TO THE FIGURES THEMSELVES. THANK YOU FOR THE CALL.
[00:20:46] SAMUEL IN MICHIGAN.
[00:20:49] SO FAR THE PRESIDENT'S FORMER
[00:20:52] ATTORNEY GENERAL AND OPINION
[00:20:56] PIECE IN THE WASHINGTON WALL
[00:20:59] STREET JOURNAL HAS HIS OWN TAKE THE CONSTITUTION LIMITS FEDERAL
[00:21:02] COURTS DECIDING OWN CASES BROUGHT BY PARTIES WITHSTANDING
[00:21:06] THAT IS A CONCRETE TO THEM GIVEN THE MARK THE AT HAND IN THIS
[00:21:10] CASE NATIONAL TRUST A PRIVATE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION PLAINLY
[00:21:13] LACKS THE STANDING MANDATED BY
[00:21:17] THE CONSTITUTION TO HAVE STANDING MUST SHOW IT HAS
[00:21:20] MEMBERS THAT SUFFER A CONCRETE INJURIES TO HAVE STANDING AND
[00:21:22] THAT INTEREST THE MEMBERS VINE INDICATE THE GERMANE TO THE
[00:21:26] ORGANIZATIONS PURPOSE.
[00:21:28] BILL BAR ADDING THAT THE SUBJECTIVE DISPLEASURE ISN'T AN
[00:21:32] INJURY CAN FIRST STANDING UNDER THE CONSTITUTION. YOU MAY WANT TO READ THIS
[00:21:35] THOUGHTS FOR YOURSELF WHEN IT COMES TO THE BALL ROOM PROJECTS
[00:21:39] IN THE LEGAL ISSUES SURROUNDING THAT. THAT'S THE WALL STREET OPINION
[00:21:43] PIECE YOU CAN FIND IN THE PAPERS
[00:21:44] TODAY AND ON LINE THERE.
[00:21:47] LET'S GO TO KATHY IN MICHIGAN DEMOCRATS LINE.
[00:21:50] OLIVIA: GOOD MORNING, PEDRO,
[00:21:53] GOOD MORNING, C-SPAN.
[00:21:57] I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT MY
[00:22:00] SUPPORT FOR ABDUL SAY AD FOR
[00:22:09] REPLACING SENATOR PETERS AND I
[00:22:11] THINK THAT HE WILL MAKE A GREAT
[00:22:14] SENATOR BECAUSE HE SUPPORTS ALL THE PEOPLE.
[00:22:17] HE'S NOT A DISCRIMINATORY PERSON.
[00:22:19] HE'S FOR MEDICARE FOR ALL.
[00:22:25] WHICH I SUPPORT. HAVING WORKED IN MEDICINE CLOSE
[00:22:28] TO 40 YEARS NOW, I KNOW THAT IT
[00:22:36] IS A STRUGGLE FOR PEOPLE TO RECEIVE HEALTHCARE WHO DON'T HAVE INSURANCE.
[00:22:39] AND IT'S TIME FOR A CHANGE.
[00:22:43] IT'S TIME TO STOP THE DISCRIMINATION AGAINST PEOPLE.
[00:22:47] THE GROSS DISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH
[00:22:49] TOWARDS A VERY SMALL PORTION OF
[00:22:53] THE POPULATION IN THIS COUNTRY AND I HOPE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
[00:22:57] IN MICHIGAN GETS BEHIND THIS GENTLEMAN AND SUPPORTS HIM.
[00:23:00] HOST: YOU THINK THAT HE HAS A
[00:23:04] STRONG CHANCE AGAINST MIKE ROGERS. CALLER: YES, I DO.
[00:23:08] I CAN TELL YOU THE COST OF
[00:23:16] HOUSING HERE IN NORTHERN
[00:23:18] MICHIGAN IN PARTICULAR, IS PRO
[00:23:21] HIS BODITIVE FOR MOST YOUNG
[00:23:22] PEOPLE THE AVERAGE COST OF A
[00:23:25] HOUSE WHERE I LIVE IS $441,000.
[00:23:28] THAT'S OUT OF THE REACH FOR PROBABLY 80% OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE
[00:23:32] HERE. AND THAT IS WRONG.
[00:23:34] IT'S NOT HOW I GREW UP IN FLINT
[00:23:40] MICHIGAN. MY PARENT SECOND HOUSE WAS 14,000 DOLLARS.
[00:23:44] I KNOW THAT WAS 1963 BUT NEVERTHELESS, THINGS SKY ROCKETED.
[00:23:47] THE COST OF GAS, THE COST OF
[00:23:56] FOOD, THE COST OF UTILITIES.
[00:23:59] THE IT'S CORPORATE AGREED AND NOT A HEALTHY SOCIAL ENVIRONMENT.
[00:24:02] VAST MAJORITY OF AMERICANS.
[00:24:06] HOST: THERE IN MICHIGAN THE WEBSITE BRIDGE MICHIGAN
[00:24:09] HIGHLIGHTS THE RACE BETWEEN MIKE
[00:24:11] RELIGIONS AND ABDUL SAY AD.
[00:24:15] AND HIGHLIGHTS SOME ISSUES THAT
[00:24:17] ARE TOP WHEN IT COMES TO THE
[00:24:20] MICHIGAN SENATE RACE TO THE CALLER'S POINT, ECONOMY AND
[00:24:24] AFFORDABILITY SAYING THAT ECONOMIC PRESSURES ARE LIKELY TO REMAIN TOP OF VOTERS MIND SAYING
[00:24:27] COST OF LIVING IN MICHIGAN AND
[00:24:31] NATIONALLY SKY ROCKETED DRIVEN BY INFLATION AND ECONOMIC
[00:24:34] VOLATILITY AND THE JOB MARKET IS
[00:24:38] TIGHT ADDING MEASURE'S MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD LAGS.
[00:24:42] HIGHER COSTS OF GROCERIES, RENT CHILD CARE AND MORE.
[00:24:44] AS DAYS GO ON TO NOVEMBER STAY
[00:24:48] CLOSE TO C-SPAN FOR OUR COVERAGE OF EVENTS THAT ARE TAKING NOT
[00:24:51] ONLY THE MICHIGAN SENATE RACE BUT MANY RACES ACROSS THE UNITED
[00:24:55] STATES WHICH WILL EVENTUALLY DETERMINE THE POWERS THAT WILL CONTROL THE HOUSE AND SENATE
[00:24:59] AFTER THE NOVEMBER ELECTION YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THAT ROUNDED UP
[00:25:03] ON OUR WEBSITE AT C-SPAN.ORG. YOU MAY WANT TO TALK ABOUT
[00:25:07] CAMPAIGN 2026 AS PART OF YOUR TOP STORY OF THE WEEK.
[00:25:10] LET'S GO TO JOE JOINING US FROM
[00:25:13] ARLINGTON VIRGINIA INDEPENDENT LINE. CALLER: HOW IS IT GOING?
[00:25:17] THANKS FOR JOINING US FOR HAVING ME TODAY.
[00:25:18] I WANT TO CALL OUT MY TOP STORY
[00:25:24] AS THE DSS STORY LINCOLN STORY
[00:25:27] BILL, LAUNCHED 1998 COST THE
[00:25:30] TAXPAYER 2.2 BILLION. IT'S AN IMPORTANT TOPIC TO STAY
[00:25:34] ON TOP OF AND ANCHORING STORY
[00:25:37] FOR ME. HOST: BESIDES THE HISTORY OF THE LINCOLN ITSELF WHAT IS MOST
[00:25:41] IMPORTANT WHEN IT COMES TO THE STORY.
[00:25:45] CALLER: WELL, STANDING OVER HERE
[00:25:47] IN ARLINGTON, I THOUGHT IT WAS
[00:25:51] GOOD TO SEE A BIPARTISAN RESPONSE, IT'S BEEN DIVISIVE.
[00:25:54] SO IT'S SEPARATED THINGS BUT THE
[00:25:56] FACT BOTH SIDES ARE FOCUSED ON
[00:25:59] ONE KIND OF TECHNICAL FISCAL AND
[00:26:03] HUMAN LEVEL ISSUE ESPECIALLY
[00:26:05] WITH VETERANS ACTIVE DUTY. IT'S JUST GOING TO KEEP US
[00:26:09] CENTERED ON SOMETHING. HOST: A HEADLINE FROM
[00:26:12] YESTERDAY'S NEW YORK TIMES, WHICH MANY HAVE REPORTED ON AS
[00:26:16] FAR AS THE ABRAHAM LINCOLN HEADING BACK FROM BEING DEPLOYED
[00:26:19] THE SUB HEAD, AIRCRAFT CARRIER DEPLOYED NINE MONTHS LARGELY IN
[00:26:22] SUPPORT OF OPERATIONS IN IRAN
[00:26:24] NOW HEADING HOME TO SAN DIEGO.
[00:26:27] ERIN IN VIRGINIA.
[00:26:29] DEMOCRAT'S LINE NEXT UP.
[00:26:33] CALLER: YES.
[00:26:34] MY NAME IS ALAN.
[00:26:41] IF THEY CAN'T SEE THAT THIS WHITE HOUSE BEING BUILT IS A
[00:26:45] FORTRESS TO PROTECT HIMSELF. HOST: WHAT LEADS YOU TO BELIEVE
[00:26:49] THAT? . CALLER: BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING GOING ON.
[00:26:52] THE STRUCTURE, FEELING OF THE
[00:26:55] MANHOLE COVERS DURING THIS
[00:27:00] RACETRACK DEAL, THE SETUP IS BEEN GIVEN COMPLETE PROTECTION.
[00:27:03] NO ONE WILL BE ABLE TO REACH HIM
[00:27:05] AND WHOEVER ELSE WILL BE ALLOWED
[00:27:14] INTO THE WHITE HOUSE IT'S A
[00:27:18] CONTINUATION OF THE INSURRECTION. THE PRESIDENT TOLD US WHAT HE WANTS TO DO.
[00:27:21] GO THERE, BE STRONG, STAND BACK.
[00:27:25] STAY READY. IT'S A COMPLETION OF THE
[00:27:27] INSURRECTION AND IF WE ALLOWED
[00:27:30] THIS TO HAPPEN BEFORE 2026, THERE'S NOTHING WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO WITH THIS PRESIDENT.
[00:27:34] HOST: WHEN IT COMES TO THE
[00:27:37] FREEDOM 250 EVENT YOU'VE BEEN HEAR ABOUT TAKES PLACE THIS
[00:27:40] WEEKEND A LITTLE BIT WHAT TO EXPECT IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE OF DC
[00:27:44] FOLLOW ALONG SOME NECK,S IF YOU
[00:27:48] CHOOSE. DRIVERS WILL FOLLOW AN 1.7 MILE COURSE SEVEN SHARP TURNS AND A
[00:27:52] MAIN STRAIGHTAWAY FRAME AND THE
[00:27:53] DISTANCE BY THE CAPITAL BUILDING AND WASHINGTON MONUMENT, DRIVERS
[00:27:57] WILL TACKLE 147 LAPS FOR A TOTAL
[00:28:00] OF JUST UNDER 250 MILES EACH. COURT GOES DIRECTLY PAST
[00:28:04] LANDMARKS LIKE NATIONAL ARCHIVES
[00:28:06] BUILDING, GALLERY OF ART AND
[00:28:09] SMITH MUSEUM, AMERICAN SPACE, INDIAN AND HISTORY ART HE
[00:28:13] EXPERTS EXPRESSED CONCERNS THAT VIBRATIONS FROM THE CONSTRUCTION
[00:28:16] AND RACE ITSELF COULD DAMAGE THE
[00:28:20] ARTIFACTS INSIDE. THERE REPORTING ABOUT THAT EVENT
[00:28:23] TAKES PLACE HERE IN WASHINGTON, DC OVER THE WEEKEND.
[00:28:26] FROM NEW YORK, THIS IS JIM REPUBLICAN LINE.
[00:28:29] YOUR TOP NEWS STORY. HELLO, JIM.
[00:28:31] CALLER: MY TOP NEWS STORY IS A
[00:28:35] CALL I'M VERY, VERY DISAPPOINTED
[00:28:39] AND CONCERNED ABOUT THE RIDE
[00:28:40] THROUGH THE EL, SAY AD AND ALL
[00:28:44] THE RIDICULOUS STORIES. OF THIS COUNTRY IS GREAT BECAUSE
[00:28:46] PEOPLE GET OUT THERE AND THEY
[00:28:50] WORK. THEY GET WHAT THEY EARN.
[00:28:53] AND OF THIS COUNTRY SHOULD
[00:28:57] NEVER, EVER BE A SOCIALIST COUNTRY.
[00:29:00] IT CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD WHEN I SAW THIS ON TV TODAY.
[00:29:03] SO MANY RIDICULOUS THINGS GOING ON.
[00:29:05] THIS IS AMERICA, AMERICA FIRST.
[00:29:08] NOTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER OR NOT I SUPPORT DONALD TRUMP. I CAN SUPPORT DONALD TRUMP'S
[00:29:11] POLICIES THAT DOESN'T MEAN I GOT TO SUPPORT DONALD TRUMP.
[00:29:15] AND THAT'S THE LESSON THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO LEARN, ANYTHING
[00:29:18] EVER BEEN GIVEN TO ME I HAD TO
[00:29:20] WORK FOR.
[00:29:23] NO ONE GAVE ME ANYTHING.
[00:29:25] LAST CALLER, THE WHITE HOUSE A
[00:29:28] FORTRESS, PEOPLE SWALLOW THINGS
[00:29:30] LIKE THAT?
[00:29:35] JUST A THOUGHT. JUST A THOUGHT. C.
[00:29:39] HOST: HER MAN IN DALLAS TEXAS,
[00:29:43] INDEPENDENT LINE.
[00:29:44] THANKS FOR CALLING.
[00:29:48] . CALLER: MY STORY IS THE BALL ROOM.
[00:29:51] TO ME IT'S A DESECRATION BY A
[00:29:56] PERSON TO WHOM NOTHING IS SACRED.
[00:29:59] IT'S GOT ONE OVER ON US BUT HE
[00:30:00] CAN GET ALL THE MONUMENTS TO
[00:30:05] HIMSELF THAT HE CAN.
[00:30:07] BUT WHEN ASKED IS THE PRESIDENT
[00:30:09] -- IS A DISGRACE, IT WILL ALL HAVE TO COME DOWN.
[00:30:13] THAT'S MY THOUGHT. THANK YOU.
[00:30:16] HOST: HER MAN GIVING US HIS THOUGHTS ON THE BALL ROOM.
[00:30:21] LIKE I SAID YOU CAN CHOOSE WHATEVER IT IS NEWS STORY-WISE
[00:30:24] THAT RISES TO THE TOP FOR YOU.
[00:30:27] WHEN CALLING IN.
[00:30:30] AND YOU CAN CONTINUE TO DO SO
[00:30:32] 202-748-8001 FOR REPUBLICANS,
[00:30:37] 202-748-8000 FOR DEMOCRATS,
[00:30:40] INDEPENDENTS 202-748-8002.
[00:30:42] YOU CAN POST ON A VARIETY OF
[00:30:49] TYPES.
[00:30:50] ILLINOIS IS NEXT, DEMOCRATS
[00:30:54] LINE. CALLER: GOOD MORNING.
[00:30:55] MY ISSUE IS GOING TO BE AN ECHO
[00:30:58] OF WHAT THE PERSON FROM ALABAMA
[00:31:02] TALKED ABOUT WITH MONSANTO.
[00:31:05] I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM HERE IN ILLINOIS I DON'T THINK I DO BUT
[00:31:09] I CAN'T SEE HOW THESE COMPANIES
[00:31:11] CAN GET AWAY WITH CREATING
[00:31:15] PRODUCTS THAT ARE SO HARMFUL TO
[00:31:20] OUR BODIES. THINGS THAT THINK BACK TO THE TOBACCO INDUSTRY AND WHAT THEY
[00:31:23] DID TO MILLIONS OF AMERICANS.
[00:31:26] AND I RECENTLY HAD A DOPPLER ON
[00:31:29] MY ARTERIES.
[00:31:32] I HAVE VERY CLEAN ARTERIES
[00:31:34] BECAUSE I NEVER SMOKED. I FEEL FOR THESE PEOPLE WHO WENT
[00:31:38] THROUGH THE PROBLEMS IN MONSANTO, BUT IT'S NOT JUST
[00:31:42] MONSANTO, IT'S MANY PLACES
[00:31:44] THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY WHERE
[00:31:47] WE'RE ALLOWING CORPORATIONS TO
[00:31:50] GET AWAY WITH CREATING BAD
[00:31:56] WATER, BAD AIR, AND THERE'S NO
[00:32:01] THE ONES WHO WILL SUFFER, NO OTHER PLACES TO GO BUT LIVE IN
[00:32:05] THE CONTAMINATED AREA. I JUST REMEMBER LOVE CANAL, AND
[00:32:08] I JUST -- IT BREAKS MY HEART
[00:32:11] BECAUSE WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL
[00:32:16] COUNTRY BUT IT'S BEING DESTROYED
[00:32:18] BY CORPORATIONS WHO DON'T CARE
[00:32:22] ABOUT THE HEALTH OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
[00:32:26] THANKS. HOST: MICHAEL IN PENNSYLVANIA REPUBLICAN LINE.
[00:32:29] CALLER: THANK YOU, FOR TAKING MY
[00:32:31] CALL AND THANKS FOR C-SPAN.
[00:32:33] IT'S A GREAT ADDITION TO OUR
[00:32:41] DEMOCRACY. I HAVE SOME, I REALLY WANT TO
[00:32:45] ECHO THE SENTIMENTS THE FELLOW
[00:32:48] FROM NEW YORK BASICALLY ABOUT
[00:32:51] THE -- THE GOVERNMENT IS DOING
[00:32:54] WHAT -- TRUMP IS DOING WHAT
[00:32:56] GEORGE WASHINGTON TRIED TO DO.
[00:33:02] I'M READING A BOOK BY JOE ELLIS
[00:33:05] WHO IS IT'S CALLED THE CORE TET
[00:33:11] ABOUT THE FOUNDING OF OUR
[00:33:16] COUNTRY, WASHINGTON, HAMILTON
[00:33:19] JOHN J AND JAMES MADISON CAME
[00:33:21] TOGETHER WHEN NOBODY IN THIS
[00:33:24] COUNTRY COULD AGREE UPON A CONSTITUTION.
[00:33:27] THEY WERE SO FAR APART AND THEY
[00:33:31] INTENDED THE ARTICLES OF
[00:33:35] CONFEDERATATION WERE SO WERE
[00:33:39] WEAK. EVERYBODY WE DIDN'T BACK TO EACH STATE AND WANTED TO RUN THEIR
[00:33:43] OWN COUNTRY. THESE FELLOWS AMONG OTHERS
[00:33:45] REALIZED THAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE
[00:33:48] A COHESIVE COUNTRY, AND IN IT TOGETHER.
[00:33:50] SO THEY -- INSISTED WE NEEDED TO
[00:33:55] HAVE A FRAMEWORK FOR A
[00:33:58] GOVERNMENT THAT WOULD UNITE ALL
[00:34:04] OF THESE STATES, AND TODAY YOU
[00:34:08] CAN SEE HOW ALL THE THESE STATES
[00:34:11] ARE COMPLETELY DIS UNITED FROM HAVING SANCTUARY CITIES, THEY
[00:34:15] WANT TO HAVE THEIR OWN LAWS
[00:34:18] REGARDING THE BORDER, REGARDING
[00:34:22] WARS, REGARDING WHATEVER. REGARDING BALL ROOMS.
[00:34:25] I MEAN THE BALL ROOM IS A --
[00:34:28] IT'S AN EXECUTIVE BRANCH THAT IS
[00:34:33] DOING THINGS TO IMPROVE THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH.
[00:34:36] THEY HAVE THE PRESIDENT HAS AUTHORITY OVER THAT.
[00:34:39] AS THEY DO -- IN EVERY
[00:34:47] ADMINISTRATION, WHERE THE
[00:34:50] PRESIDENT CAN DECIDE WHAT'S NEEDS TO BE DONE TO ENHANCE THE
[00:34:54] FEDERAL BRANCH. IT'S SOMETHING SAID OVER THE GENERATIONS.
[00:34:57] WE NEED A BALL ROOM. PEOPLE CAN MEET.
[00:35:01] PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES CAN
[00:35:04] COME TOGETHER, MEET SAFELY.
[00:35:07] HOST: IN PENNSYLVANIA, LLOYD, ON FACEBOOK SAYING ANOTHER ONE THE
[00:35:11] SUPREME COURT ALLOWING THE PRESIDENT TO CONTINUE
[00:35:15] CONSTRUCTION OF HIS BE CONTROVERSIAL WHITE HOUSE BALL ROOM PROJECT AND FINISHES HIS
[00:35:18] POST WITH THE WORD WINNING. AGAIN, THE BALL ROOM IS UP FOR
[00:35:21] GRABS WHEN IT COMES TO THE TOPIC
[00:35:24] YOU MAY WANT TO ALSO TALK ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT DEBT.
[00:35:28] A NEW FIGURE THIS WEEK, THIS IS
[00:35:31] CNBC SAYING IT ECLIPSED 40 TRILLION.
[00:35:34] ANOTHER STAGGERING BENCHMARK FOR
[00:35:37] RED INK, THE TOTAL IOU HIT 40.5
[00:35:44] TRILLION AFTER TOPPING 30 TRILLION YEARS OF ESCALATING
[00:35:47] BUDGET DEFICITS, PUSHED HIGHER
[00:35:51] BY STIMULUS SPENDING DURING
[00:35:53] COVID PANDEMIC SEEN THE PUBLIC SHARE OF THE DEBT 100% SAYING
[00:35:57] MOST RECENTLY MONTHLY ACCOUNT OF
[00:35:59] U.S. FINANCES TREASURY REPORTED
[00:36:02] A 432.3 BILLION DEFICIT IN JULY
[00:36:06] HIGHEST MONTHLY TOTAL SINCE MARCH OF 2021.
[00:36:08] THE YEAR-TO-DATE SHORTFALL IS NEARLY 1.8 TRILLION HIGHER THAN
[00:36:12] THE SAME PERIOD A YEAR AGO. IT WAS EARLIER THIS WEEK THAT
[00:36:16] THE TREASURY SECRETARY AT THE WHITE HOUSE SCOTT BESSENT MAKING
[00:36:20] COMMENTS AT THE WHITE HOUSE
[00:36:21] ABOUT THIS NEW RECORD WHEN IT COMES TO DEBT.
[00:36:25] CALLER: THE 40 TRILLION IS A BIG NUMBER.
[00:36:28] IT IS SMALLER WHEN WE LOOK AT
[00:36:31] THE PUBLICALLY TRADED AMOUNTS
[00:36:34] BECAUSE OUR SOCIAL SECURITY FUNDS AND OTHER GOVERNMENT ENTITIES HOLD A SUBSTANTIAL
[00:36:38] AMOUNT. AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO HAVE
[00:36:39] TO GROW OUR WAY OUT OF THIS, AND
[00:36:43] AS I TALKED ABOUT AT G20 IN
[00:36:47] ASHEVILLE THE U.S. STRATEGY AND ENCOURAGE THE REST OF THE WORLD
[00:36:50] TO COME ALONG WITH US.
[00:36:52] WE'RE ALSO, I ANNOUNCED THAT
[00:36:55] DIRECTOR OF RUSS VOTE AND I HAVE
[00:36:59] BEEN TAPPED WITH LOOKING AT FISCAL CONSOLIDATION.
[00:37:01] I THINK THE NUMBERS ARE NOT THE ACTUAL NUMBERS NOW.
[00:37:06] IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL TARIFF REFUNDS DUE TO THE COURT'S
[00:37:10] RULING BUT WITH THE SECTION 301
[00:37:12] TARIFFS I'M THAT WE WILL BE BACK
[00:37:16] TO A THE SAME LEVEL IF NOT HIGHER OF TARIFF INCOME FOR LAST
[00:37:19] YEAR, AND THAT IS MOST OF THE INCREASE IN THE DEFICIT AND
[00:37:23] REMEMBER, WE DID NOT GET HERE IN A DAY.
[00:37:26] WE WERE LEFT WITH A MESS.
[00:37:29] THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION HAD THE HIGHEST DEFICIT TO GDT IN
[00:37:32] HISTORY WHEN WE WEREN'T AT WAR
[00:37:34] OR WEREN'T IN A RECESSION FOR
[00:37:38] 2025, WE BROUGHT IT DOWN BY MORE
[00:37:40] THAN A PERCENT. HOST: ACCORDING TO THE HILL IT
[00:37:43] WAS AFTER THAT FIGURE HIT 40 TRILLION THAT LAWMAKERS TOOK TO SOCIAL MEDIA TO ARGUE FOR
[00:37:47] POLICIES THAT WOULD SOOTHE THE DEBT MILESTONE FIGURE COMES
[00:37:50] AFTER THAT YEARS OF FEDERAL
[00:37:53] BORROWING THAT ACCELERATED DURING THE PANDEMIC.
[00:37:57] LARGE SPENDING PACKAGES AND
[00:38:01] POLICIES, SENATOR RICK SCOTT SAYING THIS IS BAD.
[00:38:03] CONGRESS NEEDS TO GET SPENDING UNDER CONTROL AND BALANCE THE
[00:38:06] BUDGET THAT ALL IN CAPS.
[00:38:08] SOME DEMOCRATS RESPONDING TO
[00:38:11] INCLUDING RHODE ISLAND'S IN AN
[00:38:14] INTERVIEW WITH FORBES. TREASURY AT ONE POINT BEFORE YOU
[00:38:18] BECAME A CONGRESSMAN DO YOU AND
[00:38:19] DEMOCRATS AS A WHOLE HAVE A PLAN
[00:38:23] TO DEAL WITH THE EXPLODING DEBT HERE?
[00:38:25] >> WELL IT STARTS BY MAKING THE WEALTHY PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE.
[00:38:29] AGAIN, REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS AND THE DURING PASSED A BILL LAST YEAR THEY CALL IT THE
[00:38:32] BEAUTIFUL BILL.
[00:38:33] WE CALL IT THE UGLY BILL.
[00:38:37] THAT GAVE $4 TRILLION OF TAX
[00:38:39] CUTS TO THE WEALTHY AND BIG
[00:38:42] CORPORATIONS WITH NO PAY FORCE.
[00:38:46] WITH NO PAY FORCE. SO THE FIRST THING WE CAN DO IS REVERSE THOSE CUTS.
[00:38:50] BUT UNDERSTAND THE TWO PARTIES ARE NOT THE SAME HERE.
[00:38:54] WE HAVE NOW A LONGSTANDING PATTERN WHERE UNDER DEMOCRATIC
[00:38:57] PRESIDENTS THE DEFICIT DECREASES
[00:39:00] IT HAPPENED UNDER CLINTON AND
[00:39:02] OBAMA AND UNDER BIDEN. UNDER REPUBLICAN
[00:39:05] ADMINISTRATIONS, THE DEFICIT EXPLODES LARGELY BECAUSE THEY
[00:39:08] KEEP HAVING TAX CUTS FOR THE WEALTHY DONORS AND BIG CORPORATIONS.
[00:39:12] AND SO AGAIN, THERE'S A CLEAR
[00:39:14] PATTERN HERE WHERE YOU KNOW, REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS ON THE
[00:39:17] WHITE HOUSE ACT IN A FISCALLY
[00:39:19] IRRESPONSIBLE WAY LAVISHING TAX
[00:39:22] CUTS ON THE VERY WEALTHY AND
[00:39:24] DEMOCRATS HAVE TO CLEAN UP THE MESS AFTERWARDS.
[00:39:28] >> WE INCLUDED A STORY TAKING A LOOK AT FEDERAL DEBT BY
[00:39:32] PRESIDENTS INCLUDES A BAR GRAPH
[00:39:33] BUT IT SAYS DATA THEY USE SHOW
[00:39:36] THAT THE NATIONAL DEBT GREW BY
[00:39:39] APPROXIMATELY 11.6 TRULY DURING
[00:39:45] PRESIDENT TRUMP'S NEW NONCONSECUTIVE COMBINED ANNE
[00:39:48] INCREASE 7.8 TRILLION AND 3.4
[00:39:51] TRULY SINCE RETURNING TO OFFICE IN 2025.
[00:39:55] IN COMPARISON INCREASED BY 8.4
[00:40:04] TRAFFIC LIGHT DURING BIDEN AND
[00:40:06] GEORGEW BUSH EIGHT-YEAR
[00:40:09] PRESIDENCY, HOWEVER EXPERTS SAY
[00:40:11] IT ONLY WHAT HAPPENED WHILE EACH
[00:40:14] PRESIDENT WAS IN OFFICE AND DO
[00:40:17] NOT INDICATE THEY CAUSED EACH INCREASE.
[00:40:20] EMERGENCY AND INTEREST COSTS CAN SUBSTANTIALLY ALTER FEDERAL BORROWING.
[00:40:23] THERE'S A STORY IN NEWS WEEK IF INTERESTED IN LEARNING SOME
[00:40:26] HISTORY WHEN IT COMES TO DEFICITS AND DEBTS IN THE UNITED STATES.
[00:40:30] YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AS A TO THAT STORY TOO.
[00:40:33] TONY IN FLORIDA, INDEPENDENT LINE.
[00:40:35] CALLER: GOOD MORNING, PEDRO, MY
[00:40:44] TOP STORY THIS WEEK IS STRONG
[00:40:50] THAN THE 121 YEAR HISTORY.
[00:40:58] WE HAVE AN ADMINISTRATION WANT BORDERS TO ELECT A BLACK
[00:41:02] GOVERNOR FOR THE FIRST TIME IN
[00:41:06] HISTORY. THIS IS A STATEMENT WE HAVE 67 COUNTIES.
[00:41:09] ALMOST EVERY ONE HAS A HIGHWAY
[00:41:11] OR ROAD NAMED DIXIE SOMETHING IN
[00:41:13] THE HEART OF DIXIE WE'RE LOOKING
[00:41:17] TO ELECT A BLACK GOVERNOR BYRON DONALDS.
[00:41:20] I DIDN'T VOTE FOR HIM BECAUSE I
[00:41:21] CAN'T VOTE IN THE PRIMARIES BUT
[00:41:24] THE NATIONAL MEDIA HAS BEEN COMPLETELY RADIO SILENT.
[00:41:27] I WANT TO ASK ALL OF YOU IF
[00:41:39] BYRON DONALD A BLACK DEMOCRAT OF
[00:41:42] THIS HISTORIC EVENT PEOPLE WILL BE CRYING EVERY BLACK RACE UP
[00:41:45] THERE CRYING ABOUT HOW WONDERFUL
[00:41:47] THIS IS AND I CALLED THIS
[00:41:49] MORNING TO CALL SHAME ON THE
[00:41:52] MEDIA AND SHAME ON C-SPAN
[00:41:57] BECAUSE THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN A
[00:41:58] WHOLE SEGMENT IF BYRON DONALDS
[00:42:02] HAD BEEN A BLACK DEMOCRAT.
[00:42:05] I CERTAINLY WON'T VOTE FOR HIS OPPONENT BECAUSE DEMOCRATS
[00:42:09] HAVEN'T SHOWED ME ANYTHING I MAY
[00:42:12] SIT THIS ONE OUT AND NOT VOTE THAT.
[00:42:16] HOST: ALEXANDER IN PENNSYLVANIA.
[00:42:18] DEMOCRAT LINE.
[00:42:24] NEXT UP. CALLER:SS.
[00:42:26] CALLER: YES, I WAS JUST CALLING
[00:42:29] TO MAKE A COMPARISON TO ANY
[00:42:32] SMALL CITY VOTING TREASURERS OR
[00:42:35] PEOPLE INTO THEIR OFFICES.
[00:42:38] IF THEY HAD ONE PERCENT OF THE
[00:42:41] CRIMINAL STUFF THAT TRUMP HAS DONE IN HIS LIFETIME, NOBODY
[00:42:45] WOULD EVER BE VOTED IN TO A
[00:42:49] POSITION LIKE THAT. SOMEHOW THE UNITED STATES THE
[00:42:52] PRESIDENCY SEEMS TO BE JUST MUTE
[00:42:55] FOR ANYTHING LIKE THAT AND I
[00:42:56] DON'T GET IT HOW PEOPLE DON'T SEE THAT.
[00:43:00] THANK YOU. HOST: REPUBLICAN LINE NEXT TOP
[00:43:03] STORY, ERIN IS IN IOWA. HELLO. CALLER: HI THERE.
[00:43:07] GREAT HAVING ME ON THANK YOU SO MUCH. I LOVE WHEN YOU HOST.
[00:43:11] I HEARD ONE OF YOUR CALLERS
[00:43:13] EARLIER SAY THAT MANY PEOPLE
[00:43:15] CANNOT AFFORD HEALTHCARE AND SHE SUPPORTS MEDICARE FOR ALL.
[00:43:19] THE REASON SHE WORKED IN HEALTHCARE 40 YEARS.
[00:43:21] I ALSO WORK IN HEALTHCARE. EVERY NIGHT I SEE HOW HEAVILY
[00:43:25] OUR SYSTEM IS STRAINED BY PAID A
[00:43:27] AND UNCOMPENSATED CARE. IT INCLUDES PEOPLE THAT
[00:43:30] PROVIDING CARE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY.
[00:43:34] MEANWHILE, MANY WORKING AMERICANS STRUGGLE TO AFFORD
[00:43:37] PREMIUMS DEDUCTIBLES AND BASIC
[00:43:40] TREATMENTS SO ANY SERIOUS HEALTHCARE DEBATE NEEDS TO
[00:43:44] ADDRESS WHO'S PAYING, WHO
[00:43:47] QUALIFIES IN THE FIRST PLACE FOR
[00:43:49] TAXPAYER FUNDED CARE AND WHY ARE
[00:43:52] PEOPLE INCREASINGLY NOT ABLE TO AFFORD CARE THEMSELVES?
[00:43:56] ASIDE FROM THAT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY DEMOCRATS HATE
[00:43:58] THE IDEA OF MAKING THE WHITE
[00:44:02] HOUSE BEAUTIFUL AGAIN.
[00:44:05] AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY FOR NOW.
[00:44:07] THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
[00:44:10] HOST: IOWA CAME INTO THE NEWS
[00:44:14] THIS WEEKEND AS WELL AS TEXAS
[00:44:17] WITH THEIR RECENTLY ANALYSIS TAKING A LOOK AT, TEXAS BEING
[00:44:21] ONE JESSE TAYLOR ACCORDING TO
[00:44:24] HILL THE SENATE AND GOVERNOR
[00:44:27] EDITOR WROTE POLLING SHOWS TEXAS
[00:44:30] AFTER THAT JAMES TALL RICO STILL
[00:44:34] NET POSITIVE APPROVAL READINGS WHILE KEN PAXTON WITH HIGH
[00:44:38] APPROVAL RATINGS AND EVEN IN A GENERIC REPUBLICAN AND GOP
[00:44:41] POLLING TAKING A LOOK AT IOWA
[00:44:44] SAYING THAT IN IOWA SENATE RACE,
[00:44:48] HE EXPLAINED THE NONPARTISAN WAS
[00:44:51] NOT MOVING AWAY THE RACE FROM
[00:44:54] REPUBLICAN PAUSE OF THE QUALITY
[00:44:55] NOTING THAT SHE NOTED THAT
[00:44:59] SHIFTING POLITICAL WINS ARE OFFERING STATE REPRESENTATIVE
[00:45:01] JOSH TURIC IN A STATE THAT VOTED
[00:45:05] FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP 13 POINTS IN 2024, THAT'S AT THE HILL. IF YOU WANT TO READ MORE ABOUT
[00:45:09] THE LATEST WHEN IT COMES TO THE
[00:45:11] VARIOUS SENATE RACES, MICHELLE
[00:45:13] IN MICHIGAN INDEPENDENT LINE. CALLER: GOOD MORNING.
[00:45:17] I'M CALLING ABOUT RACE BETWEEN
[00:45:21] AL AND MIKE. THE SENATE RACE.
[00:45:25] MIKE IS NOTHING BUT A -- HE WAS
[00:45:31] HERE IN MICHIGAN AS A CONGRESSMAN, WENT TO WASHINGTON
[00:45:35] THEN ENDED UP BECOMING PAID GUY
[00:45:37] FOR INFLUENCE IN WASHINGTON TOOK
[00:45:40] ALL THE BIG BUCKS, WENT TO
[00:45:44] FLORIDA BUILT A MANSION HE'S WORTH BETWEEN 10 AND $15
[00:45:48] MILLION. THE REPUBLICANS AGREEING THAT MICHIGAN HAS A PLAN.
[00:45:51] THAT'S ALL THEY'RE DOING IS A
[00:45:55] PLANT. AND I THINK HE'S A CARPET BAGGER
[00:45:57] WHEN YOU LISTEN TO HIM ON TV
[00:46:06] WHEN HE DID A COUPLE
[00:46:08] CONVERSATIONS ON TV, HE ALWAYS
[00:46:11] TALKS ABOUT THE LOCAL STUFF.
[00:46:14] HE NEVER TALKS ABOUT NATIONAL ISSUES.
[00:46:17] LOCAL STUFF THAT IS CONTROL LID BY THE STATE THAT HE HAS NO
[00:46:20] CONTROL OF. AL IS LOOKING AT ALL OF IT.
[00:46:23] HE ACTS LIKE A COMMON GUY.
[00:46:26] EVEN THOUGH HE'S A VERY WELL EDUCATED MAN.
[00:46:29] AND I LIVE IN CENTRAL MICHIGAN,
[00:46:32] WE'RE NOTHING BUT A REPUBLICAN
[00:46:34] STRONG HOLD.
[00:46:38] IF YOU'RE NOT REPUBLICAN HERE,
[00:46:39] YOU DON'T GET OFF.
[00:46:43] MUL NRA HAS BEEN IN OFFICE DOING
[00:46:47] ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. PEOPLE BEGGED TO HAVE TOWN HALLS, HE WON'T.
[00:46:51] WE DO NOT NEED A NO DO NOTHING
[00:46:54] PERSON IN WASHINGTON WHO ONLY STANDS THERE AND GIVES TRUMP'S
[00:46:57] STAMP OF APPROVAL FOR ANYTHING
[00:47:05] AND EVERYTHING HE WANTS TO DO. TEXAS ON A DEMOCRATS LINE.
[00:47:08] CALLER: I WANT TO GET TO TALK TO
[00:47:11] YOU I SEEN YOU ON TV, AND I JUST
[00:47:15] WANT TO THANK C-SPAN THE UNITED
[00:47:18] STATES IN A CRISIS 40 TRILLION
[00:47:20] IN DEBT DUE TO AN ILLEGAL WAR
[00:47:25] WITH IRAN, AND ILLEGAL TARIFFS, TRUMP HAS ANOTHER BILL HE NEEDS
[00:47:29] TO BE IMPEACHED AND REMOVED FROM OFFICE IMMEDIATELY.
[00:47:32] HAVE A GOOD MORNING. HOST: DAN NEXT IN KENTUCKY
[00:47:36] REPUBLICAN LINE.
[00:47:40] CALLER: THANKS FOR TAKING MY CALL.
[00:47:43] I LOT THERE TO DIGEST.
[00:47:47] YOU KNOW, I WAS WONDERING HOW MANY PEOPLE REALLY FEELING THE
[00:47:50] PINCH ABOUT THE BALL ROOM.
[00:47:55] I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SINCE JOE IS OUT OF OFFICE AND TRUMP IN
[00:47:59] OFFICE. I'VE BEEN DOING BETTER LAST TWO
[00:48:02] YEARS ALL AROUND ON ALL FRONTS FINANCIALLY.
[00:48:06] THAN I DID UNDER JOE.
[00:48:07] HE JUST TOOK, TOOK AND TOOK.
[00:48:10] I JUST WONDER HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE REALLY FEELING THE PINCH
[00:48:14] THAT THE BALLROOM IS HURTING
[00:48:19] THEM. I CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW FEEL LIKE
[00:48:21] IT'S DESTROYING THEM AND HURTING
[00:48:24] THEM FINANCIALLY AND EVERYTHING. THEY DIDN'T DIDN'T SAY NOTHING ABOUT OBAMA WHEN HE HAD A
[00:48:28] BASKETBALL COURT PUT IN OR YOU
[00:48:30] KNOW, I JUST -- I'M JUST
[00:48:33] CONFUSED ABOUT HOW THEY THINK
[00:48:34] AND A LOT OF PEOPLE CALL IN ON
[00:48:38] DEMOCRAT LINE I THINK ARE I MEAN CALLING ON THE REPUBLICAN LINE SAYING THEY'RE REPUBLICANS BUT
[00:48:42] SOUND LIKE DEMOCRATS. I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
[00:48:45] YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE CALLED THEM
[00:48:47] OUT BEFORE BUT I MEAN THEY
[00:48:51] REALLY GOT INCREASING AGAIN, BUT
[00:48:58] I JUST, WELL, OH THANKS DAN THE
[00:49:09] WALL STREET JOURNAL SAID THESE COULD OCCUR IF DEMOCRATS TOOK
[00:49:13] POWER. DEMOCRATS PREPARE TO PROBE PRESIDENT AND HIS ALLIES SAYING
[00:49:16] THE DEMOCRATS ARE READY AND MULTI-FUND INVESTIGATION INTO THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION SHOULD
[00:49:20] THEY WIN THE HOUSE MAJORITY IN
[00:49:21] NOVEMBER AND THE WHITE HOUSE
[00:49:25] GEARING UP FOR AN ONSLAUGHT OF
[00:49:29] SUBPOENAS, IN INTERVIEWS HOUSE
[00:49:31] DEMOCRATS AND TOP AID LAID OUT
[00:49:34] NEARLY A DOZEN EARLY INVESTIGATION TARGETS. INCLUDING IRAN WAR, PRESIDENT
[00:49:38] AND FAMILY BUSINESS DEALINGS,
[00:49:44] HIS EFFORTS TO BUILD A WHITE
[00:49:47] HOUSE BALLROOM, JEFFERY EPSTEIN
[00:49:51] AND IMMIGRATION. THAT THE WALL STREET JOURNAL. ARSON INDEPENDENT LINE.
[00:49:55] CALLER: GOOD MORNING, I LEAN
[00:49:57] MORE TOWARDS REPUBLICAN THE WAY
[00:50:00] I VOTE BUT I'M NOT AFRAID TO VOTE ACROSS PARTY LINES, FIRST
[00:50:03] OF ALL BUT I'LL TELL YOU I THINK
[00:50:06] THE BIGGEST PROBLEM I'M NOT
[00:50:09] SURPRISED WITH THE $40 TRILLION DEBT AT ALL.
[00:50:12] LEGAL DEFINITION OF INSANITY IS
[00:50:14] DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS.
[00:50:18] WE KEEP VOTING IN THE SAME TWO
[00:50:23] PARTIES OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND BUT THEN WHEN YOU GO TO VOTE FOR
[00:50:27] YOUR PRESIDENT OR OTHER FEDERAL POSITIONS, THAT YOU VOTE FOR,
[00:50:31] YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR ALL ABOUT DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS THEN
[00:50:34] YOU GO TO VOTE YOU GOT ALL THESE OTHER PARTIES OUT THERE BUT YOU
[00:50:38] NEVER EVEN HEARD FROM AND I
[00:50:41] THINK IT'S REALLY TIME FOR THE LIBERTYIAN PARTY OR ANOTHER
[00:50:44] PARTY TO START SHOWING NUMBERS
[00:50:47] AND STEPPING UP. LIKE I SAID WE'RE DOING SAME THING AND EXPECTING DIFFERENT
[00:50:51] RESULTS OF THE TWO PARTIES WE HAD IN THERE FOR YEARS.
[00:50:55] HOST: BILL IS AMONG MANY FROM MICHIGAN CALLING IN THIS MORNING
[00:50:58] LINE FOR DEMOCRATS. HI, BILL. CALLER: GOOD MORNING, PEDRO.
[00:51:02] THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL.
[00:51:05] SINCE IT'S BEING FINANCED NOW
[00:51:07] WITH TAXPAYER MONEY I'M TALKING
[00:51:09] ABOUT THE BALLROOM OF COURSE, KNEW WE WEREN'T GOING TO HAVE TO
[00:51:12] PUT MONEY INTO IT, AS WE PEOPLE
[00:51:15] WHO BUILT THE CONSTRUCTION
[00:51:18] WHETHER IT'S THE WASHINGTON MONUMENT, THE WASHINGTON WORLD
[00:51:21] WAR II MUSEUM AND SO ON WE
[00:51:23] SHOULD BUILD LIKE ALL THE THINGS IN DC.
[00:51:27] IT'S SIMPLE TO HELP PAY IT'S THROUGH THE VISITORS HE'S NO
[00:51:31] GREAT DEAL MAKER AND FOR THOSE
[00:51:34] WHO SAY CONGRESS CAN'T DESCRIBE A WOMAN.
[00:51:37] ANYONE -- I CAN'T SAY THE WORD PROPERLY, PARENTS HAVE TO DECIDE
[00:51:41] TO CHANGE TO A BOY OR GIRL OR
[00:51:43] LET THEM LIVE THE WAY THEY ARE IN PEACE. DOESN'T AFFECT YOU.
[00:51:47] HOW COME NO ONE EVER BRINGS UP
[00:51:50] THE PART WHERE BOTH CHILD IS
[00:51:52] BORN WITH BOTH PARTS.
[00:51:54] HOW DO YOU DESCRIBE THAT AND
[00:51:57] IT'S UP TO THE PARENTS TO DECIDE
[00:51:59] TO CALL A FEMALE OR MALE AND IF HE CHOSE WRONG THAT'S WHY WE
[00:52:03] HAVE TRANSGENDERS AND SO FORTH. I KNOW THAT'S CRAZY FOR YOU BUT
[00:52:07] IT'S POSSIBLE. AGAIN, HE'S NOT GREAT DEAL MAKER. THIS IS JUST RIDICULOUS.
[00:52:11] BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOU TAKING
[00:52:12] MY CALL, AND YOU GUYS HAVE A
[00:52:16] GOOD DAY. THANK YOU.
[00:52:20] HOST: REPUBLICAN LINE IN
[00:52:22] ILLINOIS KENT GO AHEAD.
[00:52:24] CALLER: I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT
[00:52:27] THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER THE
[00:52:30] LINCOLN, AND HOW THE PEOPLE HAVE
[00:52:33] BEEN CALLING IN WITH THE STORIES ABOUT ALL THE CARRIERS, THE GUYS
[00:52:37] ARE STARVING AND JUMPING OVER BOARD.
[00:52:40] SO MANY LIE -- THEY STARTED LYING ABOUT THIS PRESIDENT AND
[00:52:43] THEY KEEP COMING UP WITH DIFFERENT THING.
[00:52:45] NOW, THIS IS A GUY THAT TOOK A
[00:52:48] BULLET IN THE HEAD FOR THE
[00:52:51] COUNTRY AND THEY CAN'T SAY
[00:52:53] ANYTHING POSITIVE OF SO THEY LIE
[00:52:56] ABOUT THIS CARRIER THE GUY -- I
[00:53:00] HAD ONE LADY -- WE HAVE NOT
[00:53:03] GETTING CLEAN CLOTHES THEY NEED
[00:53:06] TO GET A PLUMBER.
[00:53:10] THESE AIRCRAFT CARRIERS HAVE
[00:53:14] PLUMBERS ABOARD, ELECTRICIANS,
[00:53:17] MACHINISTS MATES.
[00:53:20] I SPEND FOUR YEARS ON AN
[00:53:22] AIRCRAFT USS ENTERPRISE, THE
[00:53:24] MOST THE LARGEST ME LETHAL WORLD
[00:53:28] SHIP THE WORLD EVER SEEN.
[00:53:31] I RANG MORE SALT WATER YOU OUT
[00:53:33] OF MY SOCKS THAN THESE GUYS SAIL
[00:53:36] ON TODAY. WE DID COMBAT TOURS IN EXCESS
[00:53:40] EVERY YEAR. I DID THREE TOURS LIKE THAT.
[00:53:42] AND NOW THEY'LL SAY THESE GUYS
[00:53:44] ON THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER DON'T
[00:53:46] GET ANY FOOD, THEY'RE -- YOU
[00:53:50] THINK THEY COULDN'T LAND OR GET
[00:53:52] STUFF ON AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER BIG
[00:53:55] ENOUGH TO LAND AN AIRPLANE ON, THAT THEY COULDN'T GET FOOD IF
[00:53:58] THEY NEEDED IT. I'D LIKE THE DEMOCRATS TO COME
[00:54:01] UP WITH DIFFERENT LIES THAT ARE
[00:54:08] PLAUSIBLE. HOST: BROWN ON FACEBOOK SAYING
[00:54:09] COME IT COMES TO THINGS THAT
[00:54:13] RISE TO THE TOP PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE WALL STREET
[00:54:16] ESTABLISHMENT DEMOCRATS LOW
[00:54:18] APPROVAL RATING AND THE
[00:54:22] DEMOCRATIC SOCIAL LYFTS ARE
[00:54:24] AMERICAN ARE WINNING PRIMARIES,
[00:54:26] LET'S GO TO DAVID IN NEW YORK, INDEPENDENT LINE. .
[00:54:30] CALLER: GOOD MORNING, THING
[00:54:33] STRUCK ME THIS WEEK IS THE $40
[00:54:35] TRILLION AND I JUST THOUGHT THAT
[00:54:37] AND FORGIVENESS OF THE PPP LOANS
[00:54:40] AND WHO THE LOANS WENT TO.
[00:54:42] AND WHAT THE PROJECTIONS WERE OF
[00:54:45] HOW MUCH OF THAT ACTUALLY WENT
[00:54:49] TO PAY ROLLS AND HOW MUCH YACHTS AND AIRPLANES. WE HAVE POLICE, PLAIN AND SIMPLE
[00:54:53] USING OUR CREDIT CARD AND JUST
[00:54:58] LIVING IN LUXURY THE ABSOLUTE
[00:55:02] UNNECESSARITY FOR RIPPING DOWN THE EAST WING OF THE WHITE HOUSE
[00:55:05] AND REMEMBER THAT? IT WAS ALL GOING TO BE PAID FOR BY OTHER PEOPLE.
[00:55:08] IT WAS 400 BILLION, NOW IT'S A
[00:55:14] BILLION OR SOMETHING. PATRIOT MISSILES, WE SHOT 1700
[00:55:18] OF THEM IF I READ THAT RIGHT,
[00:55:21] I'M AMAZED.
[00:55:23] 4.5 MILLION BUCK AS PIECE, SO
[00:55:26] WE'RE OUT OF BULLETS.
[00:55:27] SO WE GOT TO REPLACE THOSE.
[00:55:33] ARE WE BETTER OFF TODAY THAN WE WERE? FIVE YEARS AGO?
[00:55:36] I HARDLY THINK SO.
[00:55:37] INFLATION IS RISING.
[00:55:40] YOU CAN'T AFFORD GROCERIES. THE INSURANCE RATES MY HOUSE
[00:55:44] DOUBLED. THE ELECTRICITY DOUBLED. DOING NOTHING ABOUT IT.
[00:55:47] NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT IT. ONLY THING THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT
[00:55:51] IS LIKE TRYING TO PUSH THROUGH THESE DATA CENTERS THAT ARE
[00:55:55] GOING TO INCREASE THE COST OF
[00:55:56] YOUR ELECTRICITY STARTING TO BE
[00:55:59] LIKE A MORTGAGE PAYMENT.
[00:56:01] HOST: DAVID ONE MORE CALL FROM
[00:56:04] LISA IN NORTH CAROLINA DEMOCRATS
[00:56:08] LINE. CALLER: GOOD MORNING, C-SPAN.
[00:56:10] BEFORE I GET TO THAT TOP STORY
[00:56:12] PEOPLE STOP TALKING ABOUT THE BALLROOM, IT'S A DONE DEAL WE'LL
[00:56:15] HAVE TO PAY FOR LIKE ALL THESE
[00:56:17] OTHER PET PROJECTS, SO JUST DEAL
[00:56:20] WITH IT.
[00:56:22] MY TOP STORY IS HE WANTS TO
[00:56:25] STRIP A WAR HERO'S NAME OFF AN
[00:56:28] AIRCRAFT CARRIER.
[00:56:31] THIS MAN SACRIFICED TO SAVE HIS
[00:56:34] FELLOW SAILORS, AND TRUMP WANTS
[00:56:38] TO PUT HIS NAME ON THIS SHIP.
[00:56:41] THAT'S A SLAP IN THE FACE TO DORIS MILLER, HIS NAME SHOULD BE
[00:56:45] ON THE SHIP AND THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT.
[00:56:48] TRUMP WANTS HIS NAME ON EVERYTHING HE TOUCHES.
[00:56:52] IT'S ABSOLUTELY ABSURD.
[00:56:55] SO MY THING TO YOU PEOPLE OUT
[00:56:56] THERE COME NOVEMBER, YOU BETTER VOTE LIKE YOU'VE NEVER VOTED
[00:57:00] BEFORE. TO GET THESE REPUBLICANS OUT OF
[00:57:04] OFFICE. HOST: LISA BEAR FINISHING UP YOUR TOP STORY OF THE WEEK.
[00:57:07] THANKS TO THOSE OF YOU WHO PARTICIPATED.
[00:57:11] IF YOU GO TO OUR FACEBOOK PAGE,
[00:57:12] THIS IS ABOUT CANADA SAYING THE U.S. SAYING THAT THE U.S. ISN'T
[00:57:17] THE SAME ANYMORE BUT ADDS WILL NOT NEGOTIATE TRADE AND TARIFFS
[00:57:21] ANYMORE. THIS IS COMING LATE YESTERDAY WHEN IT COMES TO TARIFFS AND
[00:57:25] LATER ON IN THE PROGRAM, WE'RE
[00:57:27] GOING TO TALK ABOUT EDUCATION IN THE UNITED STATES PARTICULARLY
[00:57:30] THE STATE OF HIGHER EDUCATION
[00:57:34] INSTITUTIONS WITH JOHN MARQUIS.
[00:57:35] WHEN IT COMES TO THE TOPIC OF
[00:57:39] TARIFFS THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF
[00:57:45] PRESIDENT'S TARIFFS POLICY ON
[00:57:50] INVESTORS HOW THEY THINK IS
[00:57:55] GOING ON. WHEN WASHINGTON JOURNAL CONTINUES. ♪. ♪.
[01:00:23] >> IN A DIVIDED MEDIA WORLD, ONE PLACE BRINGS AMERICANS TOGETHER.
[01:00:27] ACCORDING TO A RESEARCH REPORT, NEARLY 90 MILLION AMERICANS TURN
[01:00:30] TO C-SPAN. AND THEY ARE ALMOST PERFECTLY
[01:00:33] BALANCED. 28% CONSERVATIVE 27% LIBERAL AND
[01:00:37] 40 1% MODERATE.
[01:00:41] DEMOCRATS WATCH REPUBLICANS AND
[01:00:45] REPUBLICANS WATCHING DEMOCRATS AND MODERATES WATCHING ALL SIDES.
[01:00:48] STRAIGHT FROM THE SOURCE.
[01:00:49] NO COMMENTARY, NO AGENDA.
[01:00:53] JUST DEMOCRACY UNFILTERED EVERY
[01:00:54] DAY ON THE C-SPAN NETWORKS.
[01:00:58] >> WASHINGTON JOURNAL CONTINUES.
[01:00:59] >> JOINING US NOW, POLITICO.
[01:01:02] THE ECONOMICS CORRESPONDENT HERE
[01:01:05] TO TALK ABOUT THE PRESIDENT'S USE OF TARIFFS IN THE ADMINISTRATION.
[01:01:09] THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AGAIN. >> GOOD MORNING.
[01:01:12] GOOD DAY TO TALK ABOUT IT. >> CANADA.
[01:01:15] LET'S START THERE. TALK ABOUT WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO
[01:01:17] HAPPEN AND WHAT HAPPENED NOW.
[01:01:21] >> THERE WAS ORIGINALLY A THREAT BY PRESIDENT TRUMP TO PUT NEW TARIFFS, 50% TARIFFS ON ABOUT 5%
[01:01:25] OF GOODS FROM CANADA. AND THEY ORIGINALLY WERE GOING
[01:01:29] TO GO INTO EFFECT EARLIER THIS WEEK.
[01:01:31] THERE WAS A PAUSE FOR A FEW DAYS BECAUSE NEGOTIATIONS WERE GOING WELL.
[01:01:35] THE NEGOTIATIONS FELL APART LATE LAST NIGHT. NOW THE TARIFFS HAVE GONE INTO
[01:01:39] EFFECT. >> WHAT IS THE MAIN SOURCE WHEN
[01:01:42] IT COMES TO THE NEGOTIATIONS? >> THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS
[01:01:45] THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT. ON THE U.S. SIDE, THEY WERE
[01:01:49] FRUSTRATED THAT THE CANADIANS
[01:01:53] HAD PUT IN PLACE RESTRICTIONS ON AMERICAN ALCOHOL.
[01:01:55] AND ON THE U.S. SIDE, THEY WERE
[01:01:58] HOPING THAT THEY COULD LOWER
[01:02:00] TARIFFS ON CANADIAN LUMBER AND
[01:02:06] THEORY OR HAVE PUT --
[01:02:11] RESTRICTIONS ON LUMBAR AND DAIRY WHICH HAVE LONG-TERM CONCERNS WITH CANADIANS.
[01:02:15] AND ALSO, FOR THE CANADIANS, IT COULD HAVE MET LOWER TARIFFS ON
[01:02:18] STEEL AND ALUMINUM.
[01:02:21] THE GLOBAL TARIFFS, ABOUT 50% IN
[01:02:24] THE CANADIANS WERE HOPING TO GET A BREAK FROM THAT. BASICALLY, ALL THAT HAS FALLEN
[01:02:28] APART NOW SINCE THE NEGOTIATIONS ARE STOPPED.
[01:02:31] >> IF THEY ARE STOPPED AND WE DECIDE TO IMPOSE MORE TARIFFS,
[01:02:33] WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS FOR CANADA
[01:02:37] AND WHAT IS A RETALIATORY MEASURE? >> PRIME MINISTER MARK CARNEY
[01:02:41] SAID THEY WILL RETALIATE DOLLAR, FOR DOLLAR.
[01:02:45] IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE WILL
[01:02:45] ACTUALLY BE RETALIATION AND THIL
[01:02:50] VERY FRESH. WE WILL SEE HOW QUICKLY THINGS MOVE OVER THE WEEKEND AND INTO
[01:02:53] NEXT WEEK.
[01:03:00] OF GOODS FROM CANADA.
[01:03:01] SO IT IS POSSIBLE THAT MAY BE IT
[01:03:05] WON'T BE AS MUCH URGENCY AS IT
[01:03:07] MIGHT BE IF IT WAS A MORE BROAD TRADE RELATIONSHIP.
[01:03:10] ONE OF THE BIGGER QUESTIONS IS WHAT THIS MEANS FOR NEGOTIATIONS
[01:03:13] ON THE BROADER TRADE DEAL BETWEEN THE U.S. AND CANADA AND MEXICO.
[01:03:17] THE SUCCESSOR USMCA.
[01:03:22] THE CONCERN THERE IS THAT ALSO THIS WILL FEED INTO THOSE
[01:03:26] NEGOTIATIONS AND POTENTIALLY BE TROUBLE FOR THAT.
[01:03:29] >> WE WILL STEP BACK TO THE BIGGER PICTURE. REMIND VIEWERS WHAT THE INTENT
[01:03:34] WAS BY THE ADMINISTRATION FOR TARIFFS WHEN IT COMES TO BROADER
[01:03:36] ECONOMIC POLICY.
[01:03:41] >> BASICALLY, THE ADMINISTRATION'S GOAL IS TO
[01:03:44] TRY -- YOU KNOW, PRESIDENT TRUMP TALKS ALL THE TIME ABOUT HOW
[01:03:46] THIS IS UNFAIR.
[01:03:49] WE ARE BEING TREATED UNFAIRLY BY THE WORLD BASICALLY BECAUSE WE
[01:03:52] BUY THEIR GOODS AND WE HAVE LOW TARIFFS.
[01:03:54] NOW BASICALLY PUT IN PLACE
[01:03:58] GLOBAL TARIFFS OF BASELINE 10% ON MOST TRADE.
[01:04:02] .CANADA IS INTERESTING BECAUSE CANADA AND MEXICO HAVE BEEN SORT
[01:04:05] OF THE EXCEPTIONS FOR THAT. WE DO HAVE THE FREE TRADE DEAL WITH THEM.
[01:04:08] WE HAVE FREE TRADE DEALS WITH OTHER COUNTRIES AS WELL.
[01:04:12] THAT WAS THE ONE THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP NEGOTIATED HIS FIRST TERM.
[01:04:15] HE IS HONORING IT A BIT MORE THAN SOME OF THE TRADE DEALS
[01:04:18] NEGOTIATED UNDER HIS PREDECESSORS.
[01:04:21] NOW HE SAYS THAT, IT HAS MADE
[01:04:23] THINGS MORE FAIR. >> AND SO, BECAUSE OF THAT
[01:04:26] EFFORT, WE ALSO HAVE THE SUPREME
[01:04:30] COURT INTERACTING AS WELL. TALK ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE GAINED
[01:04:33] SO FAR FROM TARIFF POLICIES.
[01:04:38] >> SO THE SUPREME COURT RULING WAS BASICALLY THAT THE
[01:04:39] AUTHORITIES USED TO PUT IN PLACD
[01:04:46] NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO. AND THAT IS ALGORITHM THEY WERE
[01:04:50] USING TO REALLY KIND OF SAY, BRAZIL, I DON'T LIKE THE
[01:04:54] POLITICAL DECISION YOU MADE. COLOMBIA, TURNAROUND THE
[01:04:57] MILITARY PLANE THAT IS SENDING
[01:05:01] IMMIGRANTS BACK INTO THE U.S.
[01:05:04] SO USING IT FOR ALL SORTS OF THINGS.
[01:05:07] WHEN THAT AUTHORITY WENT AWAY,
[01:05:09] IT BASICALLY MEANT THAT IT HAS
[01:05:14] TO GO THROUGH MORE OF A PROCESS FOR THE TARIFFS.
[01:05:18] IT WILL BE GAINED, I THINK WITH
[01:05:19] THE SHORT-TERM WE HAVE GAINED IS
[01:05:23] HIGHER PRICES. IT IS UNCLEAR IF THIS OVER THE LONG-TERM WILL LEAD TO HIGHER
[01:05:27] MANUFACTURING IN THE U.S. WHICH IS A GOAL OF THE ADMINISTRATION.
[01:05:30] WE HAVE THE MANUFACTURING JOBS
[01:05:35] PICKED UP. AND AT THAT IS IRONICALLY
[01:05:37] BECAUSE OF THE WAR IN IRAN WHICH IS BASICALLY LEADING A BUNCH OF
[01:05:40] COUNTRIES TO PULL FORWARD
[01:05:43] WANTING TO MANUFACTURE THINGS HERE BECAUSE OF GEOPOLITICAL
[01:05:47] INSTABILITY AND ORDERS HAVE
[01:05:50] RAMPED UP BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT TO
[01:05:53] BUY THINGS BEFORE THEY FALL APART POTENTIALLY IN TERMS OF DEMAND.
[01:05:57] SO THERE IS A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY
[01:05:58] RIGHT NOW MAKING THE DATA REALLY NOISY AND IT MAKES IT HARD TO
[01:06:02] SAY WHAT TARIFFS ARE OR ARE NOT
[01:06:04] DOING RIGHT NOW. >> ALL THAT BEING A SET UP FOR
[01:06:08] WHAT YOU SAID RECENTLY WHEN IT COMES TO TARIFFS, I WANT TO SHOW
[01:06:11] YOU THE HEADLINE.
[01:06:15] HOW TRUMP WON ON TARIFFS. LET'S START WITH THIS ACRONYM.
[01:06:18] >> THERE IS AN ACRONYM COINED BY THE FINANCIAL TIMES.
[01:06:22] IT WAS BASED ON THIS ATTITUDE ON WALL STREET. IT STANDS FOR TRUMP ALWAYS
[01:06:26] CHICKENS OUT. BASICALLY IT IS AN INVESTMENT
[01:06:28] STRATEGY.
[01:06:30] IT SOUNDS LIKE AN INSULT TO TRUMP AND TRUMP SORT OF HATES THE ACRONYM.
[01:06:34] THE IDEA IS, HE THREATENS
[01:06:37] TARIFFS AND THE MARKETS FREAK
[01:06:40] OUT BECAUSE THEY THINK THAT WILL DOWN TO CORPORATE PROFIT.
[01:06:44] THEY THINK THAT WILL BE BAD FOR GROWTH.
[01:06:45] AND IN REACTION TO THOSE -- IN
[01:06:51] REACTION TO THE MARKET REACTION, PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL PULL OUT, RIGHT.
[01:06:55] YOU WILL REVERSE WHAT HE IS DOING. THE POINT I'M MAKING THAT PIECE
[01:06:58] IS, IT DEFINITELY HAS ITS LIMITS
[01:07:03] IN EXPLAINING WHAT HAPPENED. EVEN THOUGH YOU MAY HAVE
[01:07:07] REMEMBERED LAST APRIL, THERE WERE VERY HIGH TARIFFS THAT THE
[01:07:10] PRESIDENT SUGGESTED. AND ACTUALLY, THERE WAS TURMOIL
[01:07:14] IN THE BOND MARKETS AND THAT IS SOMETHING YOU DON'T REALLY WANT TO MESS AROUND WITH.
[01:07:17] THAT IS WHERE THE U.S. FINANCES DEBT SO YOU HAVE TO BE REALLY
[01:07:21] CAREFUL WITH THAT. AND THEN, THAT LED THE PRESIDENT
[01:07:24] TO PULL BACK SOMEWHAT ON TARIFF RATES. SO TARIFFS TODAY ARE LOWER THAN THEY WERE THEN.
[01:07:28] BUT, 10% BASELINE TARIFF IS
[01:07:31] STILL WAY HIGHER THAN ONE WOULD
[01:07:36] HAVE EXPECTED THE ECONOMY TO BE ABLE TO STAND UP AS WELL TO.
[01:07:39] I THINK THE GROWTH HAS BEEN
[01:07:40] RESILIENT AND UNEMPLOYMENT.
[01:07:45] SO FROM AN INVESTOR PERSPECTIVE,
[01:07:47] WE CAN GET TO THE INFLATION PIECE AND A BIT. IN A BIT.
[01:07:50] FROM AN INVESTOR PERSPECTIVE,
[01:07:54] THEY KIND OF UNDERSTAND AND THEY
[01:07:56] SAY, WE CAN DO WITH THIS.
[01:08:01] >> IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE
[01:08:01] GUESTS, 202-748-8001 FOR
[01:08:06] REPUBLICANS. 202-748-8000 FOR DEMOCRATS. AND 202-748-8002, FOR
[01:08:09] INDEPENDENCE.
[01:08:12] IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR
[01:08:13] COMMENTS, YOU CAN DO THAT ON
[01:08:17] 202-748-8003. TELL ME MORE ON THE INVESTOR FRONT. HOW THEY LOOK AT WHAT THEY HAVE
[01:08:20] SEEN AND WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE
[01:08:23] WHEN IT COMES TO TARIFF POLICY. >> FROM AN INVESTOR PERSPECTIVE, I THINK THE BIG THING IS THE
[01:08:28] U.S. AND CHINA, THEY ARE NO
[01:08:34] LONGER IN A TRADE WAR. THERE WAS A POINT LAST YEAR WHEN
[01:08:38] THEY WERE BOTH RAMPING UP TARIFFS ON EACH OTHER AND HAD
[01:08:41] GOTTEN INTO THE TRIPLE DIGITS.
[01:08:45] DOING 100% TARIFFS ON CHINESE GOODS. THE TWO LARGEST ECONOMIES IN THE WORLD.
[01:08:49] CHINA, MS OF EXPORTER.
[01:08:55] BASICALLY THE POTENTIAL TO BE AN ECONOMIC DIVORCE BETWEEN THE TWO
[01:08:58] COUNTRIES WHICH WOULD HAVE HAD A TON OF COLLATERAL DAMAGE NOT
[01:09:00] JUST FOR THEM BUT THE WORLD. THE FACT THAT BOTH OF THEM
[01:09:03] PULLED BACK FROM THAT, WE STILL
[01:09:08] HAVE PRETTY HIGH TARIFFS ON CHINA.
[01:09:10] BUT COMPARED TO OTHER COUNTRIES. BUT MUCH LOWER THAN THE TRIPLE
[01:09:13] DIGIT RATES. I THINK THAT HAS BEEN SOMETHING
[01:09:16] INVESTORS HAVE BEEN FINE WITH. GROWTH HAS HELD UP.
[01:09:20] AND EARNINGS HAVE HAD --
[01:09:25] CONTINUED TO GO UP. BECAUSE THE STOCK MARKET IS SO
[01:09:28] DRIVEN BY THE BUILDOUT OF INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.
[01:09:32] SO MUCH OF THE COMPANIES DRIVING THAT ARE THESE BIG TECH STOCKS.
[01:09:36] AND SO WHILE THAT IS HAPPENING,
[01:09:39] IT'S SORT OF MASKS AND MAKES
[01:09:42] LESS IMPORTANT, THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE THESE WEAKNESSES IN RETAIL.
[01:09:46] ALSO, A BUNCH OF THE COUNTRIES
[01:09:52] HARDEST HIT ARE SMALL TO MEDIUM-SIZE BUSINESSES NOT IN
[01:09:54] THE STOCK MARKET.
[01:09:56] >> TALK ABOUT THE SMALLER BUSINESSES. WHAT IS THE DISPARITY THERE AS
[01:09:59] FAR AS THE IMPACT. >> THEY HAVE LESS ROOM TO
[01:10:03] ABSORB. THEY ARE LESS DIVERSIFIED WITH WHAT THEY ARE DOING. AND SO IF YOU ARE A SMALL
[01:10:07] IMPORTER, TARIFFS WILL HIT YOU HARDER THAN IF YOU ARE A LARGE
[01:10:11] IMPORTER. >> WHEN IT COMES TO LARGER
[01:10:13] BUSINESSES, WE SAW A NEWS
[01:10:17] REPORTING THAT THOSE WHO SUBMITTED TO THE TARIFFS, LIKE WALMART AND OTHERS, THEY ARE
[01:10:20] STARTING TO GET REFUNDS. TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS THAT
[01:10:23] PLAYED OUT THERE.
[01:10:28] >> YES. WE MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THE SUPREME COURT SAID THE EARLIER
[01:10:30] TARIFFS WERE [ INDISCERNIBLE ]
[01:10:34] AUTHORITIES THE PRESIDENT WAS ABLE TO USE FOR TARIFFS.
[01:10:37] HE HAS DIFFERENT AUTHORITIES HE IS USING. FOR THOSE TARIFFS, THERE ARE
[01:10:41] REFUNDS. SOMEWHERE NORTH OF 100 BILLION. I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT
[01:10:43] NUMBER OFF OF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
[01:10:46] BUT NORTH OF $100 BILLION BASICALLY OWED BACK. A LOT OF COMPANIES HAVE BEEN
[01:10:49] APPLYING FOR THOSE. IT SOUNDS LIKE THE
[01:10:53] ADMINISTRATION IS SORT OF STARTING TO FIGHT SOME OF THOSE REFUNDS.
[01:10:55] BUT IN GENERAL, IT IS REFUNDING
[01:10:59] COMPANIES THAT APPLY. YOU HAVE TO APPLY. YOU CAN'T JUST GET A CHECK WHEN
[01:11:02] YOU ASK FOR.
[01:11:06] >> YOU TALKED ABOUT, WHEN IT COMES TO THE LEGAL BASIS AT THE IT MINISTRATION USES TO IMPOSE
[01:11:09] TARIFFS, WE SAW THOSE -- THAT
[01:11:15] SUFFERED A LEGAL CHALLENGE.
[01:11:15] WHAT IS THE STRATEGY NOW WITH
[01:11:20] MAINTAINING LEGAL ABILITY TO DO SO BY THE ADMINISTRATION? >> WE HAVE BEEN TO MULTIPLE PHASES.
[01:11:24] YOU MENTIONED THE INTERNATIONAL
[01:11:28] EMERGENCY ECONOMIC POWERS ACT
[01:11:30] BASICALLY WHAT IT SAYS IS, IN
[01:11:34] ECONOMIC EMERGENCIES, THE PRESIDENT SHOULD HAVE THE
[01:11:35] AUTHORITY TO DO EMERGENCY THINGS.
[01:11:38] AND ONE OF THE THINGS -- THE
[01:11:47] WORD TARIFF IS NO ARE IN THE LAW. BASICALLY, WHAT THE SUPREME
[01:11:51] COURT SAID IS, THE LAW DOES NOT COVER THAT.
[01:11:54] THIS IS IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE CONGRESS
[01:11:57] CONSTITUTIONALLY IS WHO IS IN CHARGE OF TARIFFS.
[01:12:01] THEY HAVE AUTHORITY OVER TARIFFS. AND IN ORDER FOR THE PRESIDENT
[01:12:05] TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, HE HAS TO BE DELEGATED BY CONGRESS.
[01:12:08] THERE ARE OTHER TARIFF AUTHORITIES HE CAN USE AND HAS
[01:12:12] USED. THERE WAS A TEMPORARY AUTHORITY THAT HE WAS USING.
[01:12:15] IT COULD ONLY BE USED FOR 120
[01:12:19] DAYS. AND SO HE USED THAT AS SORT OF A
[01:12:22] BAND-AID WHILE THEY FIGURED OUT THE NEXT STRATEGY.
[01:12:26] AND NOW WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IS,
[01:12:28] OR A BUNCH OF COUNTRIES, ROUGHLY
[01:12:34] 60 -- DEPENDING A FEW HOW THE EUROPEAN UNION, THAT BASICALLY
[01:12:36] COVERS MOST OF U.S. TRADE AND
[01:12:41] THE TARIFFS APPLY TO COUNTRIES
[01:12:44] DEPENDING ON THEIR FORCED LABOR PRACTICES AND IN THEIR SUPPLY CHAINS AND HOW GOOD THEY ARE AT
[01:12:47] MOVING OUT FORCED [
[01:12:52] INDISCERNIBLE ]. SOME COUNTRY SPACE 10% TARIFFS
[01:12:54] AND SOME FACE 15%.
[01:12:58] >> VICTORIA GUIDA IS WITH US. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON THE
[01:13:01] TARIFFS, 202-748-8001.
[01:13:06] DEMOCRATS, 202-748-8000. INDEPENDENCE, 202-748-8002.
[01:13:10] LET'S HEAR FROM DARYL FROM MYRTLE BEACH, SOUTH CAROLINA. GO AHEAD.
[01:13:14] YOU ARE ON WITH OUR GUEST. >> YES. I WANT TO KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO
[01:13:18] ABOUT THESE TARIFFS? AND THEY SHOULD NOT BE CALLED
[01:13:22] TARIFFS. THEY SHOULD BE CALLED TRUMP'S TAXES ON THE PEOPLE.
[01:13:26] AND IF CANADA IS GOING TO PUT DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR, WHY DON'T THEY JUST HOLD BACK THE
[01:13:30] MATERIALS AND STUFF AND LIQUOR
[01:13:34] THAT COMES OUT OF CANADA. THAT WILL REALLY PUT TRUMP AT
[01:13:38] ATTENTION. THANK YOU. I WILL WAIT FOR MY ANSWER.
[01:13:42] >> THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT ROUTES CANADA COULD TAKE IN
[01:13:44] RESPONSE TO THIS.
[01:13:47] IT IS NOTABLE THAT THEY DID SEEM TO BE MAKING PROGRESS TOWARD A
[01:13:49] DEAL AND IT SOUNDS LIKE PRIME
[01:13:52] MINISTER MARK CARNEY HAS SAID,
[01:13:55] THE CANDIDATE -- THE CANADIAN PRIME MINISTER, HAS SAID THAT
[01:13:58] THEY ARE TRYING TO INSERT THINGS AT THE LAST MINUTE. AND THAT CANADA WAS DEMANDING
[01:14:02] THINGS THAT WERE UNACCEPTABLE. THIS ALL HAPPENED LATE LAST NIGHT.
[01:14:06] SO A LOT OF THE DETAILS ARE NOT TOTALLY AVAILABLE YET.
[01:14:09] THE U.S. AND CANADA, THE
[01:14:13] ECONOMIC RELATIONSHIP, IT IS IMPORTANT TO BOTH COUNTRIES. IS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT TO
[01:14:16] CANADA GIVEN HOW INTERTWINED TO
[01:14:19] THE TWO ECONOMIES HAVE BECOME TO BE OVER THE YEARS.
[01:14:23] AND SO, MARK CARNEY IS SORT OF TRYING TO STRIKE THIS DELICATE
[01:14:26] BALANCE BETWEEN, YOU KNOW,
[01:14:31] ACTUALLY GETTING A GOOD DEAL FOR HIS COUNTRY, WITHOUT NECESSARILY WRECKING THE LONG-TERM
[01:14:35] RELATIONSHIP. AND SO I THINK THAT BOTH SIDES
[01:14:38] WILL BE MOTIVATED TO COME TO THE TABLE. IT DOES SEEM LIKE MARK CARNEY IS WILLING TO PLAY A LITTLE
[01:14:42] HARDBALL. >> IN KENTUCKY, THIS IS CARLTON
[01:14:46] FROM THE DEMOCRAT LINE.
[01:14:49] >> YES SIR. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, DID THE AMERICAN PEOPLE KNOW WE ARE
[01:14:54] PAYING THE TARIFFS BECAUSE THE COMPANIES ARE PASSING THE COST
[01:14:57] ON TO US? >> YES.
[01:15:00] SO THIS HAS BEEN, I THINK
[01:15:03] SOMETHING MORE PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE WAY TARIFFS WORK.
[01:15:05] THEY ARE A TAX ON THE IMPORTER.
[01:15:10] IF YOU ARE DIRECTLY IMPORTING IT YOURSELF, YOU MAY PAY A TAX.
[01:15:13] ESPECIALLY NOW THAT THEY HAVE ACTUALLY GOTTEN RID OF SOME OF
[01:15:15] THE DISPLAYS TO BE A THRESHOLD UNDER WHAT YOU DID NOT HAVE TO PAY TARIFFS.
[01:15:18] BUT THEY HAVE GOTTEN RID OF
[01:15:19] THOSE.
[01:15:24] THE EXTENT TO WHICH THE COST IS
[01:15:24] SHARED BY, YOU KNOW, THE -- THE
[01:15:30] COMPANY IT IS BEING BOUGHT FROM
[01:15:31] AND THE CUSTOMER, IT DIFFERS
[01:15:35] DEPENDING ON THE SECTOR AND THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT
[01:15:39] PLAYERS. IN GENERAL, YES. RESEARCH HAS SHOWN THAT ULTIMATELY THE COST GET PAST
[01:15:43] ALONG. AND I THINK THERE HAVE BEEN A
[01:15:46] LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ON THAT FRONT SO PEOPLE ARE MORE AWARE OF HOW TARIFFS WORK.
[01:15:50] >> THIS IS A VIEWER THAT ASKS IF THE U.S. SEEKS RECIPROCAL
[01:15:54] TARIFFS AGAINST OTHER COUNTRIES. AND IF IT IS FAIR TO THE U.S.
[01:15:57] TAXPAYER. AND WITH THE ADMINISTRATION THINKS ABOUT HOW ULTIMATELY
[01:16:01] IMPACTS THE TAXPAYER.
[01:16:04] >> IT IS A CONCEPT OF A RECIPROCAL TARIFFS.
[01:16:06] IT IS KIND OF COMPLICATED. BECAUSE THE WORD RECIPROCAL
[01:16:09] IMPLIES THAT WE ARE GIVING THE
[01:16:13] SAME TARIFF TREATMENT TO OTHER COUNTRIES BUT THAT IS NOT ACTUALLY HOW THESE TARIFFS WORK
[01:16:17] IN PRACTICE. WHAT ARE THE ADMINISTRATION WAS SAY IS, WE ARE FACTORING IN A
[01:16:21] BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS LIKE NONTARIFF BARRIERS.
[01:16:24] AND BASICALLY THE TARIFF THAT WE
[01:16:28] FEEL THESE COUNTRIES DESERVE.
[01:16:29] NOTABLY, AND THIS GOES BACK TO Y
[01:16:33] TARIFFS HAVE NOT BEEN AS DAMAGING AS ONE MIGHT HAVE
[01:16:35] EXPECTED MORE INVESTORS MIGHT
[01:16:37] HAVE FEARED.
[01:16:41] BY AND LARGE, COUNTRIES HAVEN'T RETALIATED. PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE
[01:16:44] PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS THREATENED TO DO EVEN MORE TARIFFS IF
[01:16:47] COUNTRIES DO RETALIATE. IT IS INTERESTING BECAUSE IT
[01:16:50] DOES ALSO POINT TO CORNERS OF
[01:16:52] THE WORLD WHERE PEOPLE THINK HAVING THEIR OWN TARIFFS IS NOT WORTH IT.
[01:16:56] AND SO, IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON
[01:17:00] WHAT YOU MEAN BY, IS IT FAIR TO
[01:17:02] THE U.S.?
[01:17:08] THERE ARE SO MANY PHILOSOPHICAL POINTS ABOUT DONNA DOES IT
[01:17:10] MATTER THAT THE U.S. HAS A TRADE
[01:17:14] DEFICIT? A LOT OF ECONOMISTS WOULD SAY THAT IT DOESN'T.
[01:17:16] HOWEVER, IT IS ALSO A REASONABLE
[01:17:22] POLICY GOAL TO WANT TO BUILD THINGS HERE AND TO EMPLOY
[01:17:25] PEOPLE, TO MAKE CERTAIN THINGS
[01:17:28] THAT MAKE SENSE TO MAKE HERE.
[01:17:30] AND ALSO FOR NATIONAL SECURITY
[01:17:34] REASONS, IT MAKES SENSE TO WANT TO MAKE THINGS HERE. VERY COMPLICATED QUESTION.
[01:17:36] >> DAN IN WESTBROOK, MAINE,
[01:17:43] INDEPENDENT LINE. YOU ARE ON WITH VICTORIA GUIDA.
[01:17:44] GO AHEAD.
[01:17:48] >> THE CONSTITUTION SAYS THAT CONGRESS IS RESPONSIBLE FOR RAISING TAXES.
[01:17:52] A TARIFF IS A TAX. IT IS CONGRESS' RESPONSIBILITY
[01:17:55] TO ISSUE TARIFFS AND NOT THE
[01:17:57] PRESIDENT. ANY LOOPHOLES IN THE LAW, THE
[01:18:01] CONSTITUTION, THAT ALLOW THE
[01:18:03] PRESIDENT TO DO THAT, IS
[01:18:07] CERTAINLY NOT CONSTITUTIONAL.
[01:18:08] WE WENT TO -- WE REVOLTED
[01:18:12] AGAINST GREAT BRITAIN UNDER THE BANNER TAXATION WITHOUT
[01:18:16] REPRESENTATION.
[01:18:17] THAT MEANT CONGRESS AS THE
[01:18:21] PEOPLE AND THE PEOPLE ARE
[01:18:22] RESPONSIBLE FOR TAXES.
[01:18:28] [ INDISCERNIBLE ] IT IS A STORE,
[01:18:31] THEY WILL PASS THAT COST ON TO
[01:18:33] THE CUSTOMER. IF YOU THINK THAT'S NOT TRUE,
[01:18:37] YOU DON'T KNOW MATHEMATICS. IT JUST AMAZES ME THAT THERE IS
[01:18:41] ANY RATIONALE WHATSOEVER OUT
[01:18:41] THERE THAT IS NOT SCREAMING ON
[01:18:46] THE TOP OF THEIR LUNGS THAT THIS IS TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION.
[01:18:49] AND IT IS NOT THE PRESIDENT'S
[01:18:57] RESPONSE TO THROW THEM AROUND
[01:18:57] LIKE BULLETS TO COWER THE REST
[01:19:01] OF THE WORLD. HAVE A NICE DAY. >> YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THAT
[01:19:04] THIS IS PRETTY UNUSUAL IN PAST
[01:19:07] AREAS OF TRADE OR CONGRESS WAS
[01:19:13] DEEPLY INVOLVED. THE REPUBLICAN-CONTROLLED CONGRESS IS PRETTY MUCH ALLOWED PRESIDENT TRUMP TO DO WHAT HE
[01:19:17] WANTS TO DO ON TARIFFS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN A BIG TALKING POINT IN THE MIDTERMS.
[01:19:20] DEMOCRATS WHO HISTORICALLY HAVE
[01:19:23] BEEN A PARTY THAT HAVE BEEN A
[01:19:27] LITTLE MORE INCLINED TO WANT TARIFFS IN CERTAIN SECTORS THAN
[01:19:31] THE TRADITIONAL FREE-MARKET
[01:19:32] REPUBLICANS, DEMOCRATS HAVE
[01:19:36] POINTED OUT THAT THESE HIGH BROAD ACROSS THE BOARD TARIFFS ARE JUST AND AFFORDABILITY
[01:19:40] CONCERN AND THEY ARE RUNNING ON
[01:19:43] WANTING TO ROLL THEM BACK. AND SO, THIS IS SOMETHING
[01:19:47] CONGRESS COULD DO, BUT THEY
[01:19:51] WOULD NEED TO HAVE THE NUMBERS TO OVERRIDE THE VETO WHICH WOULD
[01:19:53] BE TWO THIRDS IN THE HOUSE AND
[01:19:56] 60 VOTES IN THE SENATE WHICH IS A PRETTY HIGH BAR. EVEN IF DEMOCRATS WERE TO TAKE
[01:20:00] CONGRESS, THERE WOULD BE SOME
[01:20:04] REPUBLICANS TO GO ALONG WITH THEM. YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
[01:20:08] IT IS CONGRESS' ABILITY TO SAY, MR. PRESIDENT, YOU DON'T
[01:20:11] ACTUALLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THOSE TARIFFS. AND YOU DON'T SEE MUCH APPETITE
[01:20:14] FROM REPUBLICANS THAT WANT TO PUSH BACK THAT WAY.
[01:20:18] >> LET'S HEAR FROM J IN BOSTON.
[01:20:22] DEMOCRAT LINE. GO AHEAD. >> THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL.
[01:20:26] HERE IS THE STORY.
[01:20:33] [ INDISCERNIBLE ] THE IMPORT TAXES, THE COMPANY CHARGES FOR
[01:20:36] THE CONSUMER.
[01:20:38] IF YOU LOOK AT THE RECORD, THE
[01:20:42] 38 COMPANIES THAT SUITED THE
[01:20:46] TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, TRUMP ON
[01:20:49] THE CAMPAIGN SPEECH, HE TALKED
[01:20:50] ABOUT, I MADE $70 BILLION ON THE
[01:20:54] TARIFFS. HE DID BUT THE COMPANY PAID FOR
[01:20:56] IT AND THE COMPANY SUED HIM AND
[01:20:58] THE GOVERNMENT PAID HIM BACK.
[01:21:02] WHO PAID FOR THAT MONEY?
[01:21:04] THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
[01:21:06] THAT IS WHY IT IS SO HIGH BASED ON THE STUPID TARIFFS. IT DOESN'T WORK.
[01:21:09] ESPECIALLY ON A FRIENDLY COUNTRY LIKE CANADA WHERE WE HAVE
[01:21:13] $900 BILLION EVERY YEAR.
[01:21:17] I DON'T KNOW WHY PEOPLE DON'T
[01:21:21] FOLLOW THE NEWS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THAT IS J IN BOSTON.
[01:21:24] AND ONE OF THE COMPANIES GIVING
[01:21:30] TARIFFS, WALMART, ANNOUNCED THEY WILL USE PART OF THE LOWER
[01:21:32] PRICES -- TALK ABOUT THE REFUNDS
[01:21:37] AND HOW COMPANIES PLAN TO USE THEM. >> THIS IS THE CRUX OF THE
[01:21:40] DEBATE ON TARIFFS.
[01:21:42] THE REASON WHY THE U.S. IS
[01:21:46] HISTORICALLY -- OR IN THE AREA
[01:21:47] OF FREE TRADE, HAS VERY LOW
[01:21:51] TARIFFS IS BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THE TRADE-OFF WAS WORTH IT.
[01:21:53] BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE CHEAPER THINGS FOR PEOPLE.
[01:21:57] TO BUY. AND MAKE THINGS MORE AFFORDABLE FOR PEOPLE.
[01:22:01] IT NOT -- IT WAS ACTUALLY A VERY
[01:22:07] COMPLICATED SYSTEM OF TARIFFS IN PLACE.
[01:22:09] THERE ARE SOME INDUSTRIES WE TRY TO PROTECT MORE THAN OTHERS.
[01:22:13] IN GENERAL, WE MADE THE DECISION THAT IT WAS GOOD FOR THE GLOBAL
[01:22:16] ECONOMY AND GOOD FOR AMERICAN CONSUMERS TO HAVE THE TRADE AND
[01:22:20] IT HELD THE PRICES OF GOODS DOWN.
[01:22:22] AND THEN WE HAD THE ADVENT OF THE INTERNET WHICH ALSO MADE
[01:22:25] GOODS CHEAPER.
[01:22:27] AND SO TARIFFS ARE TRICKY THING
[01:22:31] BECAUSE YOU'RE BASICALLY TRYING
[01:22:35] TO ENCOURAGE JOBS IN SPECIFIC SECTORS POTENTIALLY AT THE
[01:22:39] EXPENSE OF EVERYONE ELSE.
[01:22:45] AND THE OTHER THING REALLY NOTABLE ABOUT THESE ACROSS THE
[01:22:46] BOARD TARIFFS IS THAT, ONE OF
[01:22:50] THE ARGUMENTS FOR TARIFFS COULD BE -- I WAS MENTIONING EARLIER
[01:22:51] THAT YOU WANT [ INDISCERNIBLE ]
[01:22:55] AND A NATIONAL SECURITY SENSE OR
[01:22:56] THEIR ARE CERTAIN TECHNOLOGIES
[01:23:00] WHERE IT MAKES SENSE TO WANT THE
[01:23:02] U.S. TO HAVE A BIT OF AN EDGE. SO SOME PEOPLE MAKE THE ARGUMENT
[01:23:06] THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE TARIFFS IN THOSE SECTORS. THE ADMINISTRATION HAS PUT
[01:23:09] TARIFFS ACROSS THE BOARD ON
[01:23:11] GOODS ON THINGS LIKE SHOES THAT
[01:23:14] WE DON'T REALLY MAKE HERE AND I'M NOT SURE THERE IS MUCH APPETITE AMONG AMERICANS TO DO
[01:23:18] THAT.
[01:23:21] ALSO, A LOT OF MANUFACTURING IS DONE BY AUTOMATION ANYWAY.
[01:23:24] EVEN IF YOU INCREASE THE MANUFACTURING, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY GUARANTEE YOU WILL GET MORE JOBS.
[01:23:28] SO IT IS A VERY STICKY THING.
[01:23:36] >> NORTH CAROLINA REPUBLICAN LINE. DONALD. HELLO.
[01:23:38] >> GOOD MORNING.
[01:23:44] I WAS CALLING ABOUT THE TRADE. WITH THE TARIFFS ON ALL THAT, I
[01:23:48] BELIEVE THAT IF THE DEMOCRAT
[01:23:51] PARTY GETS HOLD OF IT, WE ARE GOING TO GO DOWNHILL LIKE A
[01:23:54] SNOWBALL. I MEAN, I'M TELLING YOU, IT IS
[01:23:57] GOING TO BE BAD.
[01:24:02] WE WILL BE SINKING. THANK YOU.
[01:24:05] >> IT WILL BE VERY INTERESTING TO SEE HOW DEMOCRATS DECIDE TO
[01:24:08] HANDLE THE TARIFF ISSUE. I THINK THE EXPECTATION IS THAT
[01:24:11] THE DEMOCRATS ARE TRENDING IN
[01:24:15] THE POLLS TO LOOKING LIKE THEY WILL WIN THE HOUSE. THE SENATE WOULD BE A LOT MORE
[01:24:18] TRICKY WHICH WOULD REQUIRE A
[01:24:21] PRETTY BIG WAVE.
[01:24:22] TO BE EXPECTED TO GET TO BOTH
[01:24:25] CHAMBERS OF CONGRESS, I WAS MENTIONING EARLIER, THEY WON'T ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO OVERTURN THE
[01:24:29] TARIFFS BUT THEY COULD PUT A LOT
[01:24:32] MORE PRESSURE ON THE
[01:24:33] ADMINISTRATION.
[01:24:37] THEY HAVE A LOT MORE OVERSIGHT ABILITY. THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO SUBPOENA MEMBERS OF THE ADMINISTRATION
[01:24:41] AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THAT COULD MAKE THIS A MORE
[01:24:44] INTERESTING DEBATE.
[01:24:46] AND IT WILL BE INTERESTING IF A
[01:24:51] DEMOCRAT BECOMES PRESIDENT.
[01:24:52] DO THEY KEEP THE TARIFFS?
[01:24:56] WHAT TARIFFS DO THEY KEEP AND WHAT ARE THE POLITICS AROUND
[01:24:58] ROLLING THEM BACK? ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT IT IS
[01:25:02] REVENUE. AND THAT IS THE THING THAT IS REALLY COMPLICATED RIGHT NOW.
[01:25:06] WHERE EVERYTHING IN CONGRESS IS
[01:25:08] SPEND MORE AND TAX LESS WHICH IS
[01:25:13] MAKING THE DEBT BIGGER AND BIGGER. SO TAXES ARE THE ONE LITTLE
[01:25:16] THING HELPING TO FILL THE WRITE.
[01:25:19] >> FOR THE FIRST TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, THEY IMPOSED TARIFFS. TO THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION
[01:25:22] CARRIED IS OVER? >> THAT IS RIGHT. THERE WERE PRETTY HIGH TARIFFS
[01:25:26] ON CHINA. THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION NOT
[01:25:30] ONLY CAPTIVE BUT ALSO ADDED TO IT. FOR CHINESE ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
[01:25:34] THEY ADDED TARIFFS.
[01:25:37] AND SO IT DOES SPEAK TO, WHEN
[01:25:40] PEOPLE GET USED TO THINGS.
[01:25:42] ALSO, I THINK THAT, OBVIOUSLY,
[01:25:46] YOU CAN TELL FROM TALKING TO ANYBODY REALLY THAT PEOPLE ARE
[01:25:49] REALLY UPSET ABOUT HIGH PRICES
[01:25:51] AND THE COST OF LIVING. AND THE TARIFFS ARE JUST ONE OF THE MOST STRAIGHTFORWARD THINGS YOU CAN DO.
[01:25:55] MAKING LIFE LESS EXPENSIVE IS
[01:25:58] HARD AND TARIFFS ARE SORT OF AN
[01:26:01] EASY TALKING POINTS AND LEVER
[01:26:06] THAT MIGHT MAKE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE ATTRACTIVE.
[01:26:10] >> JC IS IN BROOKLYN, NEW YORK. YOU ARE ON WITH THE GUESTS, ON
[01:26:13] THE INDEPENDENT LINE.
[01:26:17] >> I UNDERSTAND THE TARIFFS THING HERE.
[01:26:19] HERE WE ARE.
[01:26:22] 40 BILLION OR WHATEVER IN DEBT.
[01:26:25] AND HE IS RAISING TARIFFS TO GET
[01:26:30] THE GOODS HERE.
[01:26:31] PEOPLE ARE PAYING MORE FOR
[01:26:37] WHATEVER THEY BRING HERE. AND THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT.
[01:26:39] ESPECIALLY THE WAY THE ECONOMY
[01:26:44] IS NOW.
[01:26:47] WHOEVER VOTED FOR THIS PRESIDENT
[01:26:50] MUST HAVE A VERY LOW IQ.
[01:26:52] I UNDERSTAND THE ELECTORATE IS
[01:26:56] VERY EDUCATED AND THEY VOTE FOR TRUMP.
[01:26:58] YOU SHOULD HAVE ALL OF THEM [
[01:27:07] INDISCERNIBLE ] THAT VOTED FOR TRUMP.
[01:27:10] >> WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE REFUNDS. WE TALKED ABOUT THE LARGE COMPANIES.
[01:27:13] VERY STRONG WORDS ABOUT THOSE REFUNDS AND PUTTING THOSE INTO
[01:27:17] PERSPECTIVE. I WANT TO PLAY A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT HE HAD TO SAY AND GET YOUR
[01:27:19] TAKE ON IT.
[01:27:25] >> THE 1 BILLION-DOLLAR REFUND FOR TARIFFS, WHAT DOES THAT SAY
[01:27:29] ABOUT THE FACT THAT IT WAS DONE SO QUICKLY AND EFFICIENTLY? WHAT DOES IT SAY ABOUT THE
[01:27:33] AMOUNT OF FOREIGN-MADE GOODS
[01:27:35] THAT RETAILERS ARE STILL
[01:27:41] SELLING? >> WHAT IT IS SAYING IS THAT THE DEMOCRATIC ATTORNEY GENERAL THAT
[01:27:44] FILED THE A RIDICULOUS LAWSUIT
[01:27:49] AGAINST THE ADMINISTRATION ONE F THE MONEY TO GO BACK TO THE
[01:27:53] RECORDS. THAT IS CORPORATE WELFARE. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE THAT MONEY.
[01:27:57] AND IF I HEAR ANOTHER DEMOCRATIC
[01:27:58] LEGISLATOR MAKE THAT REMARK, THE
[01:28:01] AMERICAN PEOPLE SHOULD GET THE MONEY, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAD
[01:28:03] THE MONEY IN THE U.S. TREASURY
[01:28:06] U.S. TREASURYAND WE WERE FORCEDT BACK.
[01:28:09] BUT THEY ARE USING THE 301, WHICH SURVIVED MORE THAN 5000
[01:28:12] STUDENTS, THAT WE WILL GET THE TARIFF AND COME BACK.
[01:28:16] WHAT YOU ARE SEEING IS WE DON'T
[01:28:18] KNOW THE DISCOUNT THAT WAS DONE
[01:28:25] FROM THE CHINESE SUPPLIER. THIS IS A CORPORATE BONANZA, WHICH I SAID IT WOULD BE AT THE
[01:28:29] TIME.
[01:28:31] >> PUT THAT INTO CONTEXT FOR US.
[01:28:36] >> IT IS STRIKING BECAUSE HE IS
[01:28:40] SUGGESTING THAT TARIFFS AND THE U.S. TREASURY BELONG TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
[01:28:43] THAT IS NOT HOW THEY TALK ABOUT
[01:28:48] TAXES GENERALLY. TAX CUTS ARE SORT OF THE
[01:28:49] CRITICAL -- HAD BEEN A CRITICAL
[01:28:55] POLICY OF THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE PARTY TO RETURN MONEY TO THE
[01:28:59] AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT HAD BEEN IN THE U.S. TREASURY. I DON'T KNOW WHICH ARGUMENT IS
[01:29:02] RIGHT.
[01:29:06] BUT THAT WAS ONE OF MY FIRST REACTIONS TO THAT.
[01:29:10] IN TERMS OF THE WHOLE TARGET --
[01:29:14] IT IS TRUE THAT, WHEN IT COMES
[01:29:15] TO NEGOTIATING WITH IMPORTERS,
[01:29:19] IN SOME CASES, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE TARGET CONTRACT LOOKS
[01:29:23] LIKE. WHEN THEY NEGOTIATE WITH THESE
[01:29:26] PEOPLE THEY ARE BUYING FROM, IT IS POSSIBLE THEY NEGOTIATE SOMETHING ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE
[01:29:30] VOLUME OF STUFF THEY ARE BRINGING IN AND MAYBE THEY THEY ARE SOME OF THE COST OR SHARE
[01:29:34] SOME OF THE COST.
[01:29:36] IT DOES, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE RESEARCH DOES BEAR OUT THAT MOST OF THE COST DOES GET PASSED
[01:29:40] ALONG TO THE ULTIMATE BUYER.
[01:29:45] >> WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT IN THE NEAR FUTURE WHEN IT COMES TO TARIFF POLICY BY THIS
[01:29:49] ADMINISTRATION? WHAT IS IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO KEEP AN EYE ON?
[01:29:53] >> THE CANADIAN NEGOTIATIONS ARE
[01:29:54] A BIG ONE IN YEAR ONE. BECAUSE I SAID ABOUT THE
[01:29:58] IMPORTANCE OF THE RELATIONSHIP.
[01:29:59] I THINK MORE BROADLY, THERE ARE
[01:30:03] OTHER SECTORS WHERE THEY CAN
[01:30:05] STILL PUT MORE TARIFFS -- THERE
[01:30:09] ARE OTHER COUNTRIES. THEY ARE DOING THESE SECTION 301 INVESTIGATIONS WHICH IS A LEGAL
[01:30:13] AUTHORITY THEY DEFINITELY HAVE
[01:30:16] TO JUST LOOK INTO UNFAIR TRADE PRACTICES GENERALLY. AND SO WE COULD SEE SLIGHTLY
[01:30:19] MORE TARIFFS.
[01:30:22] AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, YOU
[01:30:25] KNOW, WALL STREET BASICALLY AT THIS POINT IS EXPECTING TARIFFS TO ROUGHLY STAY AROUND WHERE
[01:30:28] THEY ARE. AND KIND OF SHIFTING A LITTLE BIT HERE AND THERE.
[01:30:32] WHAT EXACTLY THAT LOOKS LIKE
[01:30:39] THIS BUT I THINK THE CANADA AND MEXICO NEGOTIATIONS ARE THE BIGGEST ONE.
[01:30:43] >> THIS CAN BE FOUND ON POLITICO
[01:30:44] WHAT.
[01:30:48] VICTORIA GUIDO.
[01:30:52] THANK YOU. >> LATER WE WILL HEAR FROM THE
[01:30:53] QUINCY INSTITUTE ON IRAN AND HOW
[01:30:59] THE EXTENDED WAR IN IRAN IS
[01:30:59] AFFECTING THOSE ECONOMICALLY AND
[01:31:04] OTHERWISE. FIRST WE WILL BE JOINED BY JOHN MARCUS WILL TALK ABOUT THE
[01:31:07] QUALITY OF HIGHER EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS IN THE UNITED STATES.
[01:31:10] WE WILL PICK UP THAT DISCUSSION
[01:31:13] WHEN WASHINGTON JOURNAL RETURNS.
[01:31:21] >> ALL NEXT WEEK, JOINT C-SPAN2
[01:31:23] AT 6:00 P.M. EASTERN FOR MARATHON PROGRAMMING HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE MOST
[01:31:27] CONSEQUENTIAL, COMPELLING AND MEMORABLE MOMENTS COVERED BY
[01:31:30] C-SPAN IN 2026.
[01:31:32] MONDAY, A SPECIAL LINEUP OF OUR ORIGINAL WEEKLY SERIES, AMERICAN
[01:31:36] BOOK CLUB. FEATURING ENGAGING CONVERSATION WITH LEADING AUTHORS ABOUT THEIR
[01:31:38] WORK, IDEAS AND ISSUES SHAPING AMERICA.
[01:31:42] TUESDAY, A COLLECTION OF CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS THAT
[01:31:46] SHAPE POLICY, SCRUTINIZE IMPORTANT ISSUES AND CAPTURE THE ATTENTION OF THE COUNTRY.
[01:31:50] WEDNESDAY, A LOOK AT THE EXPIRATION, INNOVATION AND ACHIEVEMENTS THAT HAVE PUSHED
[01:31:54] THE BOUNDARIES OF WHAT IS POSSIBLE FROM THE HISTORY OF THE
[01:31:56] AMERICAN SPACE PROGRAM TO ARTEMIS TWO.
[01:31:59] THURSDAY, WE WILL HAVE SOME OF THIS YEAR'S MOST-WATCHED, MOST
[01:32:02] TALKED ABOUT AND MOST MEMORABLE
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[01:32:08] PUBLIC ATTENTION. ON FRIDAY, THE SUPREME COURT
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[01:32:16] WATCH A MARATHON OF COMPELLING
[01:32:19] PROGRAMMING ALL NEXT WEEK ON
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[01:32:28] >> NEXT WEEK ON C-SPAN2, WE ARE BRINGING YOU LIVE TALK RADIO IT
[01:32:32] SIMULCASTS FEATURING VOICES FROM ACROSS AMERICAN POLITICS.
[01:32:34] AT 9:00 A.M. EASTERN,
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[01:32:40] AT NOON, THOM HARTMANN HOSTS THE
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[01:32:46] POLITICAL STORY AND THEN
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[01:33:07] >> WASHINGTON JOURNAL CONTINUES. >> WE WILL LEARN ABOUT THE
[01:33:11] QUALITY OF HIGHER EDUCATION IN THE UNITED STATES WHEN IT COMES TO THE INSTITUTIONS THEMSELVES
[01:33:15] WITH JOHN MARCUS. HE IS WITH THE HIKE IN YOUR
[01:33:19] REPORT. THE SENIOR HIGHER EDUCATION REPORTER.
[01:33:21] MR. MARCUS, THANK YOU FOR COMING BY.
[01:33:24] >> RAY TO BE WITH YOU. >> THIS STORY HAS THIS HEADLINE.
[01:33:28] U.S. UNIVERSITIES ARE SLIDING INTO DECLINE AFTER GLOBALLY
[01:33:31] PREEMINENT.
[01:33:33] WHAT PROMPTED YOU TO WRITE THIS?
[01:33:37] >> WE TEND AS AMERICANS TO FOCUS
[01:33:37] ON THE DAY TO DAY FIREHOSE OF
[01:33:42] NEWS AND A LOT OF IT HAS BEEN ABOUT UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGES IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF.
[01:33:45] IF YOU STEP BACK FROM THE TREES
[01:33:48] AND LOOK AT THE FOREST, WE WERE CURIOUS ABOUT THE MORE BROAD
[01:33:51] IMPLICATIONS OF THOSE CHALLENGES.
[01:33:55] AND THE ONES THAT HAD COME EVEN BEFORE THE CURRENT PRESIDENTIAL ADMINISTRATION.
[01:33:58] AND WHAT WE FOUND WAS THAT BY
[01:34:01] MANY MEASURES, THAT ARE AT THIS
[01:34:07] POINT, KIND OF INDISPUTABLE, THE
[01:34:09] UNIVERSITY OF THE UNITED STATES
[01:34:13] WAS SO PREEMINENT. HIGHER EDUCATION INDUSTRY IS ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL
[01:34:17] INDUSTRIES IN THE UNITED STATES BUT IT IS SLIPPING. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK
[01:34:20] IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE AWARE OF. >> YOU DREW THE DISTINCTION
[01:34:22] EARLY ON ABOUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH UNIVERSITIES AT THE END OF WORLD WAR II AND HOW
[01:34:26] THE GOVERNMENT RESPONDED. TALK ABOUT THAT.
[01:34:29] THE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE.
[01:34:36] >> UNIVERSITIES DURING WORLD WAR
[01:34:36] II WERE IMPORTANT FOR THE
[01:34:40] INNOVATIONS THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THE AMERICAN VICTORY AT THE END
[01:34:44] OF THE SECOND WORLD WAR. AT THAT TIME, AS THE WAR ENDED,
[01:34:48] THERE WAS CONCERN THAT THE
[01:34:49] GOVERNMENT AND PRIVATE FINANCIAL
[01:34:55] CONTRIBUTIONS TO HIGHER EDUCATION FOR RESEARCH WOULD DECLINE.
[01:34:57] AND THE RESPONSE TO THAT WAS
[01:35:00] THAT THE GOVERNMENT DID CONTINUE
[01:35:03] A TRADITION OF SUPPORTING ACADEMIC RESEARCH.
[01:35:05] AND THAT WAS DOUBLED UP AFTER
[01:35:10] SPUTNIK. WE HAD A TRADITION OF THE UNITED STATES OF KIND OF A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN UNIVERSITIES AND
[01:35:14] COLLEGES AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
[01:35:15] AND AS THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT
[01:35:19] UNDER AT RISK, IS EQUALLY AS
[01:35:24] IMPORTANT AS OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE STARTED TO POUR RESOURCES INTO THE UNIVERSITIES, WE HAVE
[01:35:28] START TO SLIP A LITTLE BIT. AND THE PREEMINENCE OF THIS
[01:35:30] SECTOR.
[01:35:33] >> WHAT METRICS DO YOU USE TO KIND OF GAUGE THAT SLIDE?
[01:35:36] >> SO YOU CAN SEE VERY SPECIFIC
[01:35:41] DATA RELATIVE TO PEOPLE COMING
[01:35:44] TO THE UNITED STATES TO STUDY.
[01:35:48] INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS. THE NUMBERS ARE SURPRISINGLY DOWN CONSIDERABLY UNDER THIS
[01:35:51] PRESIDENTIAL ADMINISTRATION AS THERE HAVE BEEN DETENTIONS AND
[01:35:53] DEPORTATIONS AND SIGNIFICANT
[01:35:55] DELAYS IN AWARDING [
[01:36:00] INDISCERNIBLE ] AND COUNTRIES WHERE STUDENTS ARE NO LONGER
[01:36:01] ALLOWED TO COME.
[01:36:05] THERE ARE ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT SCHOLARS LEAVING UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGES.
[01:36:08] THE CNN STORY REPORTED THAT 80
[01:36:11] 5% OF TOP SCHOLARS HAVE LEFT. MANY OF THEM FOR CHINA.
[01:36:15] NOBEL PRIZE WINNERS AND RECENTLY
[01:36:17] A CHEMIST FROM BERKELEY LEFT FOR
[01:36:21] A UNIVERSITY IN CHINA. ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS TO
[01:36:25] KEEP IN MIND HERE'S THE HIGHER
[01:36:26] EDUCATION IS THE SIXTH BIGGEST
[01:36:30] SERVICE EXPORT. IT IS YOU ARE DISCUSSING WITH
[01:36:33] THEIR PREVIOUS GUEST, WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE BALANCE
[01:36:35] OF TRADE AND WE ACTUALLY HAD A
[01:36:39] REALLY POSITIVE BALANCE OF TRADE THANKS TO U.S. UNIVERSITIES AND
[01:36:43] COLLEGES WHICH BROUGHT IN ABOUT $40 BILLION JUST FROM THE
[01:36:46] SPENDING OF THE INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS THEY ATTRACTED.
[01:36:50] SO AS INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS
[01:36:51] HAVE GONE AWAY, SCHOLARS ARE
[01:36:56] LEAVING. THAT IS AN IMPORTANT DATA POINT. ANOTHER -- ANOTHER IMPORTANT
[01:36:58] AREA TO KEEP AN EYE ON ARE THE
[01:37:01] INTERNATIONAL RANKINGS. I THINK A LOT OF YOUR LISTENERS
[01:37:04] WILL BE FAMILIAR WITH THE U.S.
[01:37:07] NEWS RANKINGS THAT FAMILIES OFTEN USED TO DECIDE WHETHER
[01:37:11] KIDS WILL GO TO COLLEGE.
[01:37:14] THERE ARE INTERNATIONAL RANKINGS.
[01:37:15] AND THE UNIVERSITIES ARE -- ARE
[01:37:20] VERY HIGHLY RANKED.
[01:37:21] SEVEN ARE THE TOP 10 IN THE UK
[01:37:28] RANKING THAT IS PRESTIGIOUS AND LIKELY WATCH TRICK SEVEN OUT OF
[01:37:31] 10 ARE AMERICAN UNIVERSITIES. THE NUMBER IN THE TOP 500 IS THE SMALLEST EVER.
[01:37:35] AND ASIAN UNIVERSITIES ARE
[01:37:38] RISING UP. THE SECOND LARGE INTERNATIONAL
[01:37:41] RANKING IS CALLED THE QS RANKING.
[01:37:45] THERE WERE TWO IN THE TOP 100
[01:37:48] AND THE U.S. UNIVERSITIES HAS BEGUN TO FALL.
[01:37:51] >> OUR GUEST IS WITH US AND CAN TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS ON HIS REPORTING.
[01:37:54] IF YOU WANT TO CALL, WE DECIDED
[01:37:58] TO DIVIDE THE LINES DIFFERENTLY INTO TIME ZONES.
[01:38:00] IT IS 202-748-8000.
[01:38:04] 202-748-8001 FROM MOUNTAIN AND PACIFIC TIME ZONE.
[01:38:06] AND 202-748-8002 IF YOU ARE A COLLEGE EDUCATOR OR COLLEGE
[01:38:09] STUDENT AND YOU WANT TO GIVE
[01:38:12] IMPACT INFORMATION AS FAR AS THE
[01:38:14] PREEMINENCE OF HIGHER EDUCATION
[01:38:18] INSTITUTIONS.
[01:38:22] >> THIS REPORT IS A NONPROFIT
[01:38:24] REPORTED THROUGH JOURNALISM AND
[01:38:28] HIGHER EDUCATION AND PARTNERSHIP WITH NATIONAL MEDIA INCLUDING
[01:38:30] NPR, THE WASHINGTON POST, THE
[01:38:32] NEW YORK TIMES AND OTHERS.
[01:38:36] >> YOU TALK ABOUT CHINA QUITE A BIT. AND PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES
[01:38:39] TO THE RATE OF POSTDOCTORAL AND
[01:38:44] HIGHER DEGREES BEING PRODUCED OUT OF THE COUNTRY. WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT A FACTOR
[01:38:47] IN? >> THESE NUMBERS ARE EXTRAORDINARY.
[01:38:50] THE CHINESE UNIVERSITIES ALREADY
[01:38:54] SIGNIFICANTLY OUTPACE U.S. UNIVERSITIES IN THE PRODUCTION
[01:38:56] OF DOCTORAL DEGREES IN THE
[01:38:59] REALLY IMPORTANT FIELDS OF SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY, ENGINEERING AND MATH. OF COURSE POPULATION IS MUCH
[01:39:03] BIGGER. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PACE OF
[01:39:07] INCREASE, THE PACE AT WHICH THE UNIVERSITIES IN CHINA HAVE BEEN TURNING OUT EXPERTS IN THESE
[01:39:10] FIELDS THAT ARE SO IMPORTANT AND
[01:39:14] GLOBALLY COMPETITIVE, THEY ARE TURNING OUT THESE DOCTORAL
[01:39:18] DEGREES IN S.T.E.M. AT A RATE
[01:39:23] FIVE TIMES FASTER THAN UNIVERSITIES IN THE U.S. BECAUSE
[01:39:27] OF FUNDING CUTS, UNIVERSITIES IN THE U.S. ARE ALSO NOT JUST NOT
[01:39:31] KEEPING PACE BUT COMING BACK ONN THE NUMBER OF DOCTORAL CANDIDATES THEY ARE TAKING.
[01:39:34] SO THIS IS AN AREA OF CONCERN.
[01:39:39] I THINK A LOT OF YOUR VIEWERS,
[01:39:43] IF WE HEAR FROM THEM, THEY HAVE
[01:39:44] VERY AMBIVALENT FEELINGS ABOUT
[01:39:47] U.S. UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGES. THEY ARE NOT VERY POPULAR RIGHT NOW.
[01:39:51] THAT IS ANOTHER DATA POINT. IF YOU LOOK AT SURVEY DATA,
[01:39:54] PEOPLE THINK THAT THEY ARE VERY
[01:39:55] EXPENSIVE AND THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT IS VERY POOR.
[01:39:59] THEY ARE NOT WRONG.
[01:40:00] BUT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE
[01:40:06] UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGES CONTINUE TO DO THE RESEARCH THAT
[01:40:08] HAS HISTORICALLY LED TO ADVANCES THAT ESSENTIALLY HAVE FUELED OUR
[01:40:12] KNOWLEDGE ECONOMY.
[01:40:15] WHATEVER YOU THINK OF UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGES, WE
[01:40:17] NEED TO FIX THIS. OTHERWISE, WE ARE AT A GLOBAL DISADVANTAGE.
[01:40:21] >> LET'S HEAR FROM A COLLEGE
[01:40:25] EDUCATOR. THIS IS A ROBIN FROM COLUMBUS, OHIO.
[01:40:28] YOU ARE ON WITH JOHN MARCUS. GO AHEAD. >> THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL.
[01:40:32] I'M CALLING FOR TWO REASONS. ONE, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR
[01:40:35] THOUGHTS ON HOW AI IS INFLUENCING MUCH OF WHAT YOU SEE
[01:40:39] AND HOW YOUR EDUCATION TRENDS.
[01:40:43] AND TWO, HAVE YOU LOOKED AT HOW
[01:40:48] NATIONALLY DUAL ENROLLMENT IS INCREASING ACCESS, FREE COLLEGE
[01:40:51] ACCESS FOR STUDENTS WHO ARE MORE
[01:40:56] AFFLUENT, OR SAY MORE HIGHLY
[01:41:01] RESOURCED SCHOOL DISTRICTS, THEN STUDENTS WHO ARE NOT BENEFITING
[01:41:04] FROM THOSE RESOURCES?
[01:41:08] AND ARE NOT, DO NOT HAVE THE
[01:41:14] SAME LEVEL OF ACCESS TO DUAL ENROLLMENT WHICH IS BASICALLY
[01:41:17] FREE COLLEGE FOR STUDENTS BEFORE
[01:41:18] THEY EVEN LEAVE HIGH SCHOOL.
[01:41:23] I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT.
[01:41:24] >> ROBIN, THANK YOU.
[01:41:28] >> LET ME TAKE THE SECOND QUESTION FIRST. DUAL ENROLLMENT PROVIDES CREDIT
[01:41:30] BEARING COLLEGE COURSES FOR STUDENTS STILL IN HIGH SCHOOL.
[01:41:34] IT IS THE FASTEST GROWING AREA
[01:41:35] IN HIGHER EDUCATION.
[01:41:39] WHEN YOU SEE, AS UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGES LIKE TO PUT OUT,
[01:41:42] ENROLLMENT INCREASING AT ALL, IT IS LARGELY BECAUSE OF HIGH SCHOOL KIDS THAT ARE TAKING
[01:41:46] COLLEGE COURSES IN HIGH SCHOOL. IS THE CALLER CORRECTLY POINTS
[01:41:49] OUT, THIS TENDS TO BENEFIT
[01:41:52] WEALTHIER, AS OPPOSED TO LOWER INCOME STUDENTS BECAUSE THERE'S
[01:41:54] SO THE HIGH SCHOOLS HOSTING THESE COLLEGE COURSES FOR THE STUDENTS.
[01:41:58] NOT ENTIRELY.
[01:41:59] THERE IS A LOT OF WORK BEING
[01:42:02] DONE TO MAKE SURE DUAL ENROLLMENT COURSES ARE MADE
[01:42:04] AVAILABLE TO LOWER INCOME STUDENTS.
[01:42:07] BUT RESEARCH HAS SHOWN THAT THIS
[01:42:11] DOES TEND TO BENEFIT STUDENTS THAT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE GONE TO COLLEGE ANYWAY.
[01:42:14] NONETHELESS, THE EFFECT IT HAS, THAT THE STUDENTS CAN ACCUMULATE
[01:42:17] SOME CREDIT, THEY ARE A LITTLE
[01:42:20] BIT AHEAD BY THE TIME THEY GET
[01:42:22] TO COLLEGE.
[01:42:26] ONE OF THE REASONS AMERICANS ARE DISILLUSIONED WITH COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES IS BECAUSE THEY
[01:42:30] HAVE EXPERIENCED THE REALITY THAT FEWER THAN 50% OF THE STUDENTS THAT GO TO FOUR YOUR
[01:42:34] PROGRAMS ACTUALLY GRADUATE IN FOUR YEARS.
[01:42:38] AND STUDENTS ARE RUNNING WITH
[01:42:41] THEIR FEET. WITH DUAL ENROLLMENT AND ADVANCED PLACEMENT AND
[01:42:44] BACCALAUREATE PROGRAMS.
[01:42:46] THEN WHEN THEY GET TO COLLEGE,
[01:42:49] THEY CAN GET IT DONE FASTER.
[01:42:50] THERE'S A LOT OF ANXIETY ABOUT
[01:42:53] HOW LONG COLLEGE TAKES WHICH OF COURSE INCREASES THE COST.
[01:42:57] THE FIRST QUESTION ABOUT AI, I WANT TO LOOK AT IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
[01:43:01] YES, AI HAS AN ENORMOUS IMPACT ON HOW COLLEGES TEACH WHAT THEY
[01:43:05] TEACH AND HOW STUDENTS -- FOR
[01:43:09] STUDENTS AND WHAT THEY NEED TO KNOW. I ENCOURAGE MY STUDENTS TO USE
[01:43:11] AI FOR RESEARCH AT LEAST AS A
[01:43:14] FIRST STEP AND THEN DOUBLE CHECK.
[01:43:16] AS A JOURNALIST, I KNOW AI OFTEN
[01:43:19] SPITS BACK ANSWERS THAT ARE NOT TRUE. FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF WHAT
[01:43:22] WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, YOU IS
[01:43:25] EDUCATION DOMINANCE, WE HAVE IN
[01:43:30] THE UNITED STATES, DEPENDED ON AI INDUSTRIES LARGELY ON INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS THAT HAVE
[01:43:33] COME HERE, ESPECIALLY AT THE
[01:43:34] GRADUATE LEVEL, IN FIELDS AND
[01:43:39] DISCIPLINES THAT SERVE THE AI INDUSTRY.
[01:43:42] AND THEY ARE COMING UP MUCH LOWER NUMBERS. WE DON'T PRODUCE ENOUGH DOMESTIC
[01:43:45] STUDENTS THAT ARE GOOD AT MATH
[01:43:48] TO GET INTO THOSE FIELDS.
[01:43:53] SO HOW PEOPLE USE AI AND COLLEGES IS A WHOLE OTHER GIANT CAN OF WORMS.
[01:43:56] BUT WE ARE AT A DISADVANTAGE IN
[01:44:01] THE SENSE OF NOT TRACKING AS TRS
[01:44:06] MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE TRAINING IN THOSE FIELDS.
[01:44:08] >> LET'S HEAR FROM A COLLEGE STUDENT IN ARIZONA. DOG. HELLO.
[01:44:11] >> HELLO. >> YOU ARE ON.
[01:44:15] GO AHEAD. >> I HAD A QUESTION. IS IT REALLY NECESSARY FOR
[01:44:19] COLLEGE STUDENTS TO WANT TO FINISH COLLEGE SINCE AI IS
[01:44:22] GENERATING ALL THESE ANSWERS AND
[01:44:25] YOUTUBE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
[01:44:29] AND THEY CAN'T REALLY AFFORD TO GO TO A SCHOOL THAT IS OVERCHARGING WILL THEY WILL BE
[01:44:33] SITTING THERE FOR FOUR YEARS TRYING TO GET, LIKE YOU SAID
[01:44:36] EARLIER, EXTRA CREDIT OR DUAL CREDIT. IF AI IS GENERATING ALL THE ANSWERS, ARE THEY REALLY
[01:44:40] LEARNING ANYTHING?
[01:44:43] AND TWO, WHY WOULD A STUDENT, SAY FROM A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY,
[01:44:47] WANT TO COME TO THIS COUNTRY WHEN ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS GET
[01:44:49] ON THE INTERNET?
[01:44:52] AND THREE, WHAT IS THE DOWNFALL
[01:44:56] AMERICANS TAKE IF WE DO MAKE EDUCATION FREE TO ALL STUDENTS IN AMERICA OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL?
[01:44:59] THANK YOU.
[01:45:01] >> THOSE ARE BIG QUESTIONS. ON THE ISSUE OF WHY
[01:45:04] INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS -- OF
[01:45:08] WHYTHEY WOULD COME HERE, IS NOT JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN TAKE WAS
[01:45:12] ON THE INTERNET, AND MANY USE --
[01:45:13] U.S. UNIVERSITIES ARE MAKING
[01:45:17] AVAILABLE ONLINE HIGHER EDUCATION. AS A WAY TO NOT JUST PROVIDE HIGHER EDUCATION TO STUDENTS NOT JUST IN THE THIRD WORLD BUT ANY
[01:45:21] COUNTRY AROUND THE WORLD, AND REALIZED SOME REVENUE AT A TIME
[01:45:23] WHEN -- [ INDISCERNIBLE ] REALLY
[01:45:29] IT IS FOR THE UNIVERSITY'S BOTTOM LINE.
[01:45:32] WE HAVE SEEN A NUMBER OF UNIVERSITIES.
[01:45:35] MORE THAN 300 SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THIS PRESIDENTIAL ADMINISTRATION, ANNOUNCED BUDGET
[01:45:39] CUTS AND LAYOFFS. THEY ARE BLAMING THE DECLINE OF
[01:45:42] INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS. THEY MAKE THEMSELVES VULNERABLE
[01:45:45] TO THAT THEMSELVES IN 2010 WITH
[01:45:49] A NUMBER OF DOMESTIC STUDENTS STARTED TO DECLINE.
[01:45:50] WE SAW A SIGNIFICANT DECLINE IN
[01:45:53] ENROLLMENT ALREADY SINCE 2011. SO THEY BEGAN TO RECRUIT INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS.
[01:45:56] THAT MADE THEM VERY VULNERABLE TO THE DECLINE WE ARE SEEING
[01:46:00] NOW. BUT, FOR DOMESTIC STUDENTS, IT
[01:46:03] MEANS HIGHER PRICES AND FEWER PROGRAMS.
[01:46:07] ALREADY, MANY UNIVERSITIES HAVE CUT PROGRAMS AND ADVISORS FOR DOMESTIC STUDENTS BECAUSE OF THE
[01:46:10] LOSS OF INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS.
[01:46:13] ON THE ISSUE OF WHETHER OR
[01:46:15] NOT -- GOING TO COLLEGE.
[01:46:19] NOT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO GO TO COLLEGE. THERE ARE TERRIFIC OPPORTUNITIES
[01:46:22] THAT PAY REALLY WELL IN FIELDS
[01:46:25] LIKE THE TRADES WHERE YOU HAVE A HUGE NUMBER OF BABY BOOMERS RETIRING.
[01:46:29] IN GENERAL, BABY BOOMERS ARE RETIRING AND THOSE OF THE INTERCEPTING DEMOGRAPHICS
[01:46:33] HAPPENING NOW. 18 MILLION BABY BOOMERS ARE RETIRING AND 14 MILLION PEOPLE
[01:46:36] ARE COMING UP BEHIND THEM. THAT LEAVES A GIANT GAP IN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE EQUIPPED TO DO
[01:46:40] JOBS THAT AI CAN'T DO.
[01:46:43] AI CAN'T DO EVERYTHING.
[01:46:46] AND IT IS FASCINATING TO WATCH
[01:46:49] THE SPRING AS UNIVERSITY AND COLLEGE GRADUATES BOOED SPEAKERS
[01:46:52] TALKING ABOUT AI.
[01:46:54] IN FACT, THEY ARE RIGHT.
[01:46:57] AND MANY ENTRY-LEVEL FIELDS, AI IS TAKING THOSE JOBS.
[01:46:59] WE ARE AT THE BEGINNING OF WHAT ECONOMISTS PREDICT WILL BE THE
[01:47:03] LARGEST LABOR SHORTAGE IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES.
[01:47:05] AND THAT IS IN AREAS THAT AI CAN'T DO LIKE THE TRADES.
[01:47:09] BUT ALSO HEALTHCARE AND SEMI
[01:47:13] SEMICONDUCTOR PRODUCTION AND AREAS LIKE THAT. SO THERE ARE STILL A LOT OF JOBS
[01:47:16] THAT REQUIRE A BACHELORS DEGREE. >> CHRIS IN HUNTSVILLE, ALABAMA.
[01:47:20] GO AHEAD.
[01:47:22] >> GOOD MORNING.
[01:47:26] OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS,
[01:47:26] THE LACFUP PARTY HAS BEEN
[01:47:33] ADVOCATING FOR THE DEFUNDING OF UNITED STATES UNIVERSITIES. I'M WONDERING IF YOU HAVE ANY
[01:47:37] IDEA HOW EFFECTIVE THIS IS.
[01:47:45] >> LET'S THINK DOMESTICALLY AS FAR AS THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AND THE EFFORT THEY ARE MAKING
[01:47:49] WHEN IT COMES TO DEFUNDING. >> THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAS
[01:47:53] CUT FEDERAL RESEARCH FUNDING. MUCH OF THE FUNDING WAS RESTORED BY COURTS.
[01:47:57] IT IS STILL BEING BUILT UP VERY
[01:47:59] VERY SLOWLY BY THE AGENCIES THAT
[01:48:01] CONTROL IT AND THAT, AS A
[01:48:05] RESULT, AS ALL OF US HAVE READ, FOR CURTAILING OR TERMINATING
[01:48:09] IMPORTANT RESEARCH AND FOR
[01:48:13] THINGS LIKE MEDICAL CURES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION NOW HAS
[01:48:16] A PLAN THAT WOULD SHIFT MUCH OF
[01:48:20] THE GOVERNMENT FEDERAL RESEARCH FUNDING AWAY FROM UNIVERSITIES.
[01:48:23] ALL OF THAT IS BAD NEWS FOR COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES.
[01:48:27] THEY ARE NOT ENTIRELY BLAMELESS.
[01:48:28] BOTH PARTIES HAVE TRIED TO CUT
[01:48:32] BACK ON THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES GET FOR OVERHEAD.
[01:48:35] THIS IS KNOWN EUPHEMISTICALLY AS
[01:48:41] INDIRECT COST. THE PROPORTION OF FEDERAL RESEARCH FUNDING THAT GOES TO
[01:48:44] EQUIPPING THE THE LAB AND PAYING FOR THE AIR CONDITIONING IN THE
[01:48:48] HEAT AND WORKERS.
[01:48:49] AND THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
[01:48:52] PUSHED BACK ON THE.
[01:48:54] SO FAR, UNSUCCESSFULLY. WE DO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON
[01:48:58] ACADEMIC RESEARCH THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY TRANSFORM INTO
[01:49:01] INNOVATION AND NEW TECHNOLOGY.
[01:49:05] IT IS NOT ENTIRELY WHAT ACADEMIC RESEARCH IS FOR.
[01:49:09] BUT I THINK MAYBE THIS WAS A WAKE-UP CALL TO THE UNIVERSITIES
[01:49:11] THAT MAY BE IT SHOULD DO THAT MORE EFFECTIVELY.
[01:49:15] AND SO RESEARCH FUNDING IS ONE AREA.
[01:49:17] AND ALSO CUTTING INTO UNIVERSITY
[01:49:21] FUNDING. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE POLITICAL
[01:49:22] REPERCUSSIONS ON THE
[01:49:27] FINANCIAL -- OR THE FINANCIAL REPERCUSSIONS ON UNIVERSITIES.
[01:49:28] NO MATTER WHAT UNIVERSITY OR
[01:49:31] COLLEGES TEND TO COMPLAIN,
[01:49:35] STATES HAVE BEEN PRETTY GOOD AT CONTINUING FUNDING FOR
[01:49:37] UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGES OVER
[01:49:40] THE 2010'S WITH A FEW PEAKS AND
[01:49:42] VALLEYS.
[01:49:46] UNIVERSITIES CONTINUING TO INCREASE PRICES ON FAMILIES IS
[01:49:49] AGAIN, ANOTHER AREA OF COVERAGE.
[01:49:52] WHERE THEY ARE REALLY LOSING MONEY NOW IS ON THE DECLINING
[01:49:54] ENROLLMENT AND THE PROPORTION OF
[01:49:58] THE REVENUE THAT HAS TO BE SPENT ON DISCOUNTS ON FINANCIAL AID TO ATTRACT A SMALLER MARKET, TO
[01:50:02] ACTUALLY ENROLL. THOSE ARE ALL TAKING BIG
[01:50:06] FINANCIAL IMPACTS ON
[01:50:07] UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGES.
[01:50:12] >> MR. MARCUS, IT WAS EARLIER THIS MONTH AT THE EDUCATION
[01:50:15] SECRETARY, LINDA MCMAHON, SENDS A LETTER, A CALL TO ACTION.
[01:50:19] COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES THAT HAVE TAKEN MONEY. IN RETURN FOR THAT, THEY WANT TO
[01:50:22] SEE SOMETHING COMING OUT OF IT. PART OF THE LETTER READS, HOW
[01:50:25] WILL YOUR INSTITUTIONS ENCOURAGE
[01:50:29] INTELLECTUAL PLURALISM AND ITS ACADEMIC UNITS?
[01:50:30] HOW WILL YOUR FACILITY SUPPORT
[01:50:34] ACADEMIC VITALITY AND ENSURE THAT ALL PERSPECTIVES ARE TAKEN SERIOUSLY AND HOW WILL YOUR
[01:50:36] SCHOOL AND ENSURE THAT RESEARCH
[01:50:40] ENTERPRISE IS DEDICATED TO ADVANCING KNOWLEDGE, A DEEPENING
[01:50:44] UNDERSTANDING AND SERVING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT FUND IT? THERE OTHER ASPECTS OF THIS LETTER.
[01:50:48] BUT TO GET A LETTER FROM THE EDUCATION DEPARTMENT, WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR THE INSTITUTIONS IN
[01:50:51] THE UNITED STATES FOR THE
[01:50:55] PHENOMENON YOU ARE SEEING WHEN IT COMES TO THE PREEMINENCE THERE? >> I THINK THAT IS A LOT OF THE GOAL.
[01:50:59] AND I THINK SOMETHING INTERESTING IS HAPPENING. YOU ARE SEEING A LOT OF
[01:51:02] SELF-EXAMINATION AT UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGES. THERE ARE CLEARLY IDEOLOGICAL
[01:51:06] UNDERPINNINGS TO THE LETTER INTO
[01:51:08] THE DEMAND.
[01:51:11] INITIALLY, THERE WAS THE FAMOUS
[01:51:17] CONTRACT THAT TRUMP WANTED UNIVERSITIES TO SIGN AND MOST OF THEM DID NOT. NOW IT IS A LESS EXTREME
[01:51:21] VERSION. BUT IT IS TRUE THAT UNIVERSITIES
[01:51:24] AND COLLEGES ARE REASSESSING THE
[01:51:26] DEGREE TO WHICH THEY ARE MAKING CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE AMERICAN
[01:51:30] ECONOMY AND AMERICAN SOCIETY. SOME OF THAT HAS BEEN MADE
[01:51:33] HARDER FOR THEM AND NOT EASIER,
[01:51:35] BY THE ADMINISTRATION.
[01:51:38] AND SO I THINK MOST OF THE JUST
[01:51:40] OF THAT LETTER, IF YOU READ BETWEEN THE LINES, HAS TO DO
[01:51:43] WITH IDEOLOGICAL ISSUES LIKE
[01:51:48] DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION WHICH HAVE ALREADY BEEN CUT BACK
[01:51:50] MASSIVELY. ESPECIALLY BY PUBLIC
[01:51:54] UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGES AND ESPECIALLY IN SOME STATES THAT
[01:51:55] HAVE PRESCRIBED WHAT FACULTY CAN
[01:51:58] TEACH AT PUBLIC UNIVERSITIES AND
[01:52:01] COLLEGES. IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT THAT THIS
[01:52:05] IS ANOTHER MEASURE OF U.S.
[01:52:09] PREEMINENCE INTERNATIONAL. THERE IS YET ANOTHER RANKING BY
[01:52:13] THE UNIVERSITY IN GERMANY ABOUT AUTONOMY. THAT IS THE FREEDOM AND INDEPENDENCE WITH WHICH FACULTY
[01:52:17] AT UNIVERSITIES CAN DO THEIR JOBS.
[01:52:20] IN THAT RESPECT, THOUGH SURPRISINGLY, THE UNITED STATES
[01:52:23] HAS ALSO FALLEN.
[01:52:26] THAT DISCOURAGES FACULTY FROM OTHER SCHOLARS AND OTHER PARTS
[01:52:28] OF THE WORLD FROM COMING HERE.
[01:52:30] IN THE MEANTIME, YOU AND CHINA
[01:52:34] HAVE BEEN THROWING MONEY AT THEM TO GET THEM TO COME THERE. SO ALL OF THESE THINGS SORT OF
[01:52:38] ARE HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME.
[01:52:41] >> THIS IS JOHN MARCUS JOINING US. LET'S HEAR FROM DENISE IN
[01:52:45] ILLINOIS. COLLEGE-EDUCATED.
[01:52:47] HELLO.
[01:52:52] >> GOOD MORNING. I WAS CALLING BASED ON THE DUAL ENROLLMENT.
[01:52:55] THERE WAS A CALLER A FEW CALLS
[01:52:58] BACK TALKING ABOUT THAT.
[01:53:00] I TAUGHT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
[01:53:04] I FOUND THAT INTERESTING BECAUSE
[01:53:07] STUDENTS WOULD BE CREAM OF THE CROP AND YET THOSE THAT WERE
[01:53:09] ALLOWED TO HAVE A DUAL
[01:53:12] ENROLLMENT COURSE, WERE NOT.
[01:53:15] AND IT WAS DIFFICULT ON ADJUNCT
[01:53:17] COLLEGE FACULTY, THE HIGH SCHOOL
[01:53:21] SOMETIMES DID NOT WANT THE
[01:53:22] EDUCATOR THERE AT THE COLLEGE.
[01:53:26] AND WERE NOT PREPARED FOR IT.
[01:53:28] AND SO THERE WERE SO MANY OTHER SITUATIONS THAT HAPPENED WITH
[01:53:32] DUAL ENROLLMENT. THAT IS MORE OF A COMMENTS.
[01:53:35] AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THE
[01:53:38] PRESENTER HAS ANYTHING TO SAY ON THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[01:53:40] >> MR. MARCUS.
[01:53:45] >> IT IS DIFFERENT IN DIFFERENT STATES IN DIFFERENT DISTRICTS.
[01:53:49] SOMETIMES, IT IS TAUGHT BY UNIVERSITY FACULTY AND SOMETIMES IT IS TAUGHT BY HIGH SCHOOL
[01:53:52] TEACHERS.
[01:53:57] OFTEN, THE COURSES MADE AVAILABLE TO STUDENTS ARE NOT COURSES THAT WOULD NECESSARILY
[01:54:00] TRANSFER THERE.
[01:54:02] THEY ARE ON THE EASIER SIDE. THERE ARE GREAT BENEFITS TO
[01:54:06] THAT. BY EXPOSING YOUNG PEOPLE IN HIGH
[01:54:08] SCHOOL TO WHAT IT COLLEGE
[01:54:12] COURSES LIKE, EVEN IF IT IS -- I'M NOT GOING TO SAY BASKET WEAVING BUT SOMETHING THAT MIGHT
[01:54:15] NOT TRANSFER PARTICULARLY INTO A
[01:54:18] MAJOR. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF DOWNSIDES TO IT.
[01:54:21] AND THE GROWTH HAS BEEN
[01:54:25] MEDIOCRE, LARGELY BECAUSE AMERICANS SEE THIS AS A WAY OF
[01:54:27] SAVING MONEY ON COLLEGE WHICH
[01:54:31] THEY REALLY WANT TO DO. THERE IS A LOT OF WORK GOING ON
[01:54:33] TO CREATE A NATIONAL STANDARD
[01:54:38] ACCREDITATION AND WAYS TO KIND
[01:54:38] OF MAKE DUAL ENROLLMENT MORE
[01:54:42] UNIFORM AND EFFECTIVE.
[01:54:46] >> ALLEN, SOUTH CAROLINA. GO AHEAD.
[01:54:50] >> MY QUESTION IS ABOUT COST. 1988, I GRADUATED FROM
[01:54:54] APPALACHIAN STATE UNIVERSITY.
[01:54:57] MY STUDENT LOAN TOO -- WAS
[01:55:10] $20,000.
[01:55:15] NOW, IT IS $200,000.
[01:55:16] WHY DO THEY HAVE THESE FOR
[01:55:21] 200,000 AND STILL GET LOANS WHEN
[01:55:23] I GET OUT OF COLLEGE?
[01:55:27] >> THE SIX-FIGURE IS USUALLY
[01:55:31] GRADUATED PROFESSIONAL STUDENTS. ONE THING I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT BECAUSE WE TALKED
[01:55:35] ABOUT THE STEPS UNDER THIS PRESIDENTIAL ADMINISTRATION. THERE HAVE BEEN INTERESTING
[01:55:37] REPORTS THAT BOTH PARTIES HAVE
[01:55:40] BEEN PUSHING FOR FULL ON TIME.
[01:55:43] ONE IS TO LIMIT GRADUATE STUDENT
[01:55:44] LOAN TOO -- STUDENT LOAN
[01:55:48] BORROWING.
[01:55:51] GRADUATE STUDENTS COULD BORROW
[01:55:53] AS MUCH AS THEY WANTED IN 2006 AND THAT FUELED A HUGE INCREASE
[01:55:57] IN THE PRICE OF GRADUATE SCHOOL. THERE HAS BEEN A CAP.
[01:56:01] AND ARE DOWNSIDES IS FOR THAT. SOME STUDENTS NEED TO BORROW TO GO TO COLLEGE AND PROFESSIONAL
[01:56:05] SCHOOL, THAT IS PROFESSIONAL
[01:56:10] WITH DENTAL OR MEDICAL OR LAW SCHOOL. THE CONCERNS ARE TOO EARLY TO KNOW. THERE ARE CONCERNS THE NUMBERS
[01:56:14] WOULD FALL OFF.
[01:56:15] THE SHORT-TERM IMPACT HAS BEGUN
[01:56:18] TO BE THAT COLLEGES ARE LOWERING
[01:56:21] TUITION FOR GRADUATE PROGRAMS OR PROVIDING SCHOLARSHIPS TO MAKE
[01:56:23] UP THE DIFFERENCE.
[01:56:27] THE TYPICAL GRADUATE OWES
[01:56:31] $20,000. $20,000. THAT IS COMPOUNDED OVER TIME BY INTEREST. THE MORE CONCERNING PART OF THAT
[01:56:35] IS THE NUMBER OF THEM WHO NEVER
[01:56:39] GRADUATE OR GET A CREDENTIAL. THAT DOESN'T MAKE YOUR LOAN GO AWAY.
[01:56:43] WE HAVE 43 MILLION AMERICANS WHO
[01:56:45] STARTED COLLEGE AND NEVER FINISHED.
[01:56:49] THAT IS EQUAL TO THE POPULATION OF CANADA. MANY OF THOSE STILL HAVE LONG LN
[01:56:53] DEBT BUT NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT. AND THEY ARE VERY ANGRY AND
[01:56:56] UNHAPPY PEOPLE.
[01:56:58] IN MANY CASES, PARENTS OF THEM
[01:57:04] AS WELL. AND SOME DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO GO TO COLLEGE AT ALL.
[01:57:07] THIS IS A SPIRAL THAT IS REALLY DAMAGING OVER TIME.
[01:57:11] >> MR. MARCUS, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WRITE ABOUT IS THE AMOUNT OF
[01:57:12] STUDENT VISAS BEING ISSUED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
[01:57:15] HOW DOES THAT FACTOR INTO YOUR REPORTING?
[01:57:20] >> STUDENT VISAS HAVE BEEN SLOWED DOWN. IT HAS BEEN HARDER FOR
[01:57:22] INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS TO GET.
[01:57:29] AT THE CONSULATES OR EMBASSIES. THERE IS A NEW ESTIMATE AS OF LAST WEEK THAT THERE WILL BE
[01:57:31] 111,000 FEWER INTERNATIONAL
[01:57:34] STUDENTS THIS FALL. THERE WAS ALREADY A HUGE DECLINE
[01:57:38] LAST YEAR. THIS DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU ARE.
[01:57:41] SOME PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, I
[01:57:44] THINK YOU CAN GENERALIZE AND SAY THAT THEY ARE CONSIDERED MORE
[01:57:47] PROGRESSIVE AND THEY CONTINUE TO ATTRACT INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS.
[01:57:51] BUT OVERALL, CLEARLY, MANY OF
[01:57:53] THEM HAVE STOPPED COMING AND
[01:57:55] THAT IS A BIG PROBLEM.
[01:57:58] >> OUR GUEST REPORTS FOR THE HECHINGER REPORT.
[01:58:01] WORKING PEOPLE FIND YOUR WORK?
[01:58:07] >> HECHINGERREPORT.ORG AND IN ALL OF OUR PUBLICATIONS TO
[01:58:09] PUBLISH WHAT WE WRITE.
[01:58:13] >> HOW DO YOU PLAN TO FOLLOW-UP THE STORY? IS THERE SOMETHING YOU WILL
[01:58:17] FOLLOW UP OR KEEP TRACK OF AS FAR AS TRENDS ARE CONCERNED?
[01:58:19] >> SOME OF THE INTERNATIONAL RANKINGS ARE REISSUED ANNUALLY.
[01:58:23] ONE VERY IMPORTANT ONE COMES OUT AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER FOR THE HIGHER EDUCATION RANKING.
[01:58:27] I SPOKE WITH THE DIRECTOR OF IT
[01:58:30] WHO SAID THEY ARE GOING TO SEE MORE DECLINE AMONG AMERICAN
[01:58:32] INSTITUTIONS. HOW WE REVERSE THIS IS A REALLY
[01:58:36] COMPLICATED QUESTION. WHEN PEOPLE STOP COMING, IT IS
[01:58:39] HARD TO GET THEM TO COME BACK.
[01:58:42] AND SO, YES. THERE'S A LOT OF COMPLEXITY HERE. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE
[01:58:46] KNOW THE DAMAGE HAPPENING ON
[01:58:49] BOTH SIDES THROUGH THE
[01:58:52] UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGES.
[01:58:54] I THINK THEY ARE AWARE OF IT AND
[01:58:57] THERE IS A LOT OF WORK JUST GETTING UNDERWAY NOW TO KIND OF TURN THAT AROUND.
[01:59:01] >> JOHN MARCUS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
[01:59:04] >> THE LAST GUEST IS THE QUINCY INSTITUTE PROCESSING IRAN'S
[01:59:08] ABILITY TO HOLD OFF ATTACKS BY
[01:59:11] THE U.S. SO FAR AND THE OPTIONS LEFT FOR THE TRUMP
[01:59:14] ADMINISTRATION TO GAIN THE
[01:59:18] STRAIGHT OF HORMUZ. THAT CONVERSATION COMING UP. THAT IS WHEN WASHINGTON JOURNAL
[01:59:22] CONTINUES.
[01:59:27] >> SUNDAY ON C-SPAN'S Q&A, THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED
[01:59:29] STATES JUSTICE NEIL GORE SUCH
[01:59:32] WILL DISCUSS HIS CHILDREN'S BOOK, HEROES OF 1776 WHICH
[01:59:34] HIGHLIGHTS THE SIGNERS OF THE
[01:59:38] DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE AND OTHER LESSER-KNOWN REVOLUTIONARIES WHO RISK THEIR
[01:59:41] LIVES, LIBERTY AND PROPERTY IN THE FIGHT FOR INDEPENDENCE FROM
[01:59:43] THE BRITISH.
[01:59:47] >> THE BIRDS WERE COMING IN ON PHILADELPHIA.
[01:59:51] CONGRESS NEEDED TO GET OUT THE WORD DESPERATELY THAT THE
[01:59:55] DECLARATION HAD BEEN MADE. >> IT WAS A RALLY CRY FOR
[01:59:57] INDEPENDENCE.
[02:00:00] >> AND THINGS WERE DICEY THEM. ONLY 40% WOULD IDENTIFY
[02:00:03] THEMSELVES AS PATRIOTS. THEY WERE LOYALISTS.
[02:00:06] PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO GET THE
[02:00:09] NEWS OUT.
[02:00:11] SO THEY WENT TO A LOCAL PRINTER
[02:00:15] WHO ALWAYS PUBLISHED.
[02:00:20] AND FOR OBVIOUS REASONS, PROBABLY DID NOT WANT TO DISCLOSE THAT IT WAS A WOMAN.
[02:00:22] WHEN IT CAME TO THE DECLARATION.
[02:00:31] >> SUPREME COURT JUSTICE SUNDAY NIGHT AT 8:00 EASTERN ON THE C-SPAN Q&A.
[02:00:34] YOU CAN SEND TO Q&A AND ALL
[02:00:35] PODCASTS ON THE FREE C-SPAN NOW
[02:00:38] APP OR WHEREVER YOU GET YOUR
[02:00:39] PODCASTS.
[02:00:45] >> THE ROAD TO THE CAPITAL RUNS THROUGH AMERICA'S BATTLEGROUND
[02:00:48] STATES AND C-SPAN IS THERE. OUR CAMERAS ARE ON THE GROUND
[02:00:50] FOLLOWING THE CAMPAIGN FOR THE TOUGHEST RACES TO DECIDE THE
[02:00:54] BALANCE OF POWER IN CONGRESS. WE ARE THE ONLY NATIONAL
[02:00:58] TELEVISION NETWORK PROVIDING THIS LEVEL OF UNFILTERED ACCESS TO THE CANDIDATES, THE VOTERS IN
[02:01:02] THE ISSUES SHAPING CAMPAIGN
[02:01:04] 2026. NO COMMENTATORS TELLING YOU WHAT
[02:01:07] TO THINK.
[02:01:09] THE ROAD TO THE CAPITAL ONLY ON
[02:01:11] C-SPAN.
[02:01:16] >> WASHINGTON JOURNAL CONTINUES. >> OUR LAST GUEST OF THE MORNING
[02:01:19] IS WITH THE QUINCY INSTITUTE FOR
[02:01:20] RESPONSIBLE STATE AND RESEARCH
[02:01:24] AT THE UNIVERSITY TO TALK ABOUT
[02:01:28] IRAN. THANK YOU FOR GIVING US YOUR TIME.
[02:01:32] >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. >> FOR THOSE THAT MAY NOT KNOW,
[02:01:35] THE QUINCY INSTITUTE, HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE IT PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO CONFLICT LIKE
[02:01:38] WE ARE SEEING IN IRAN?
[02:01:44] >> I BELIEVE THERE IS A BALANCED APPROACH ADVOCATING FOR PEACE
[02:01:48] AND ALSO RESEARCH ADVOCATING FOR
[02:01:56] PEACE AND DIPLOMACY.
[02:02:00] >> BEFORE WE GO INTO DETAIL WHEN IT COMES TO IRAN, WE HAVE BEEN
[02:02:04] AT THIS FOR SIX MONTHS NOW FOR US. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE
[02:02:07] ASSESSMENT OF WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS BETWEEN
[02:02:10] THE INTERESTS OF THE U.S. WITH WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IN IRAN AND
[02:02:13] WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY SEEING?
[02:02:15] >> I SHOULD SAY I'M NOT [
[02:02:18] INDISCERNIBLE ].
[02:02:24] BUT THE PERSON THAT FOLLOWS THE POLITICAL BACKGROUND AND RELATIONSHIP WITH THE U.S. FOR
[02:02:27] THE LAST 20 YEARS IN THE WORLD
[02:02:30] SANCTIONS [ INDISCERNIBLE ] IN
[02:02:39] THE ECONOMY, OVER THE LAST SIX
[02:02:42] MONTHS WAS A DISASTER FOR [
[02:02:47] INDISCERNIBLE ].
[02:02:50] TO ACTUALLY EVALUATE THE WAR OR
[02:02:54] THE RESPONSE WOULD NEED TO KNOW
[02:02:58] THAT IT IS VERY DIFFICULT
[02:02:59] ACTUALLY TO ESTIMATE OR
[02:03:03] PRESIDENT TRUMP MAY GO. WE HEAR DIFFERENT THINGS FROM
[02:03:06] WASHINGTON.
[02:03:09] AND LIMITING YOU ON THE
[02:03:16] INFLUENCE OF THE REGION OR DESTROYING MILITARY CAPABILITIES.
[02:03:18] WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY.
[02:03:22] WITH THE EXCEPTION IS WHAT WAS
[02:03:28] TRENDING [ INDISCERNIBLE ] SO IT
[02:03:31] IS DIFFICULT TO SAY.
[02:03:35] IT IS COMPLICATED FOR THE IRANIAN PEOPLE AND MANY PEOPLE
[02:03:37] IN THE REGION.
[02:03:41] AND OF COURSE, WE SHOW THE COST
[02:03:46] OF WAR.
[02:03:52] IT SEEMED IT WAS A CONSTANT
[02:03:53] OPERATION.
[02:03:59] AND WE CAN MEASURE BUT WE DON'T
[02:04:05] KNOW YET. >> ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WROTE E EARLIER THIS MONTH IS ABOUT THIS
[02:04:08] IDEA OF IRAN DIGGING AND WHEN IT COMES TO THIS CONFLICT.
[02:04:12] AND YOU WRITE THAT AS LONG AS
[02:04:15] WASHINGTON CONTROLLED THE TEMPO OF THE WAR, THERE WILL BE A LACK
[02:04:17] OF AGENCY IN TEHRAN.
[02:04:21] SO THE EFFORT TO PUSH BACK IS MANAGED CONFRONTATION ON HOW YOU DESCRIBE THAT.
[02:04:25] CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT?
[02:04:30] >> TURNCOAT I DECIDED ON THE
[02:04:35] NARRATIVE WITH THE WAR [
[02:04:41] INDISCERNIBLE ] THE LARGER
[02:04:44] OUTCOME DECISION-MAKING AND ADDED A NEW SHADOW
[02:04:48] DECISION-MAKING. WE CAN TALK LATER ABOUT THAT.
[02:04:51] >> RIGHT NOW, WE WILL SEE THE
[02:04:57] NEW DECISION-MAKERS THAT ARE MORE CONFIDENT AND LESS
[02:05:00] PREDICTABLE AND WAS PATIENT
[02:05:03] COMPARED WITH THE PAST.
[02:05:06] AND SO IT IS THE PERCEPTION OF A
[02:05:10] THREAT AND THE LEVEL OF
[02:05:15] CONFIDENCE THEY HAVE THAT THIS
[02:05:17] WORLD WILL CONTINUE WITH
[02:05:20] PRESIDENT TRUMP PRESIDENT TRUMP
[02:05:22] IS NOT PREDICTABLE AND AT THE SAME TIME NOT RELIABLE AND THERE
[02:05:26] WAS NO DEAL.
[02:05:28] NO SANCTION RELIEF WITH ANY
[02:05:31] DURABLE PEACE.
[02:05:34] SO NEGOTIATIONS AND SANCTIONS
[02:05:40] ALL OR PART OF THE SAME PACKAGE.
[02:05:48] SO WE HAVE TO SURVIVE. WE HAVE TO MANAGE THIS.
[02:05:50] AND WE HAVE TO [ INDISCERNIBLE
[02:06:00] ].
[02:06:03] SO THE WAR CONTINUING WITH THE
[02:06:05] END OF PRESIDENT TRUMP.
[02:06:09] AND SO [ INDISCERNIBLE ] IS NOT
[02:06:15] WILLING TO PAY THE PRICE OR
[02:06:15] CANNOT AFFORD IT.
[02:06:21] [ INDISCERNIBLE ] THIS
[02:06:23] PERCEPTION OF THREAT THAT THEY
[02:06:29] HAVE COME A CHANGE TO THE LOGIC OF DECISION-MAKING AND PUSHING
[02:06:32] THEM TO -- PUSHING THE
[02:06:43] CONFRONTATION.
[02:06:50] AT THE SAME TIME, NOT LOSING THE
[02:06:54] AGENCY AND WAITING TO SEE WHAT
[02:06:56] IS NEXT AND WHEN THE U.S. WILL
[02:07:01] TRY TO MANAGE ANOTHER ROUND OF
[02:07:03] THE WAR.
[02:07:06] SO MANAGING SOME SORT OF
[02:07:08] CONFLICT, TO PUSH THE COST-THE
[02:07:12] UNITED STATES.
[02:07:15] I DON'T BELIEVE IRAN LOST
[02:07:18] CONTROL OF THE STRAIGHT OF
[02:07:21] HORMUZ.
[02:07:25] I BELIEVE THEY TRIED TO PASS [
[02:07:29] INDISCERNIBLE ] OF OIL PER DAY.
[02:07:33] THE SAME TIME, [ INDISCERNIBLE ]
[02:07:42] 80-$90, SO WITH THE PRICE OF
[02:07:47] FUEL AND GASOLINE.
[02:07:55] SO IF CRUDE OIL IS $80 FOR $120,
[02:08:05] FOR EXAMPLE, IF CRUDE OIL IS 80,
[02:08:13] MAKING THE REFINERY MARGINS HI,
[02:08:14] IRAN CAN KEEP THE PRESSURE ON
[02:08:20] THE U.S. ECONOMY AND MANAGE THE
[02:08:25] CONFLICT.
[02:08:25] THIS IS HOW IRANIANS THINK AND
[02:08:30] HOW THEY DESIGN THE BAR [
[02:08:39] INDISCERNIBLE ]. >> IF YOU WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS
[02:08:42] ABOUT IRAN AND PARTICULARLY WHAT IS HAPPENING WITHIN THE COUNTRY
[02:08:46] AND TALK TO HIM ABOUT THAT,
[02:08:49] 202-748-8001 FOR REPUBLICANS.
[02:08:53] 202-748-8000 FOR DEMOCRATS.
[02:08:53] INDEPENDENCE, 202-748-8002.
[02:08:58] TEXTURE QUESTIONS ON 202-748-8003.
[02:09:01] WE WILL HEAR FROM TONY AND PENNSYLVANIA. INDEPENDENT LINE.
[02:09:05] YOU ARE ON WITH OUR GUEST. GO AHEAD. >> YES.
[02:09:06] GOOD MORNING.
[02:09:10] SO RARELY DO WE GET TO HEAR THE TRUTH WHEN IT COMES TO WAR AND
[02:09:13] DAMAGES AND LOSSES.
[02:09:15] THE U.S. HAS BEEN PUMMELED.
[02:09:21] OUR BASES AND ASSETS, IN TERMS OF CONTROL OF THE AIRSPACE.
[02:09:25] WE CAN'T GET NEAR IRAN.
[02:09:30] PRIOR TO THE WAR, I CALLED IN
[02:09:34] AND SAID THEY WERE THINK TANKS PROMOTING THE WAR.
[02:09:37] THERE IS A RAPID PROMOTION OR A LUKEWARM PROMOTION BUT ALWAYS A
[02:09:40] PROMOTION OF WAR. I POINTED OUT THE PENTAGON
[02:09:43] LOOKED AT IRAN AND HAVE
[02:09:47] CONCLUDED THAT THERE IS NO MILITARY SOLUTION.
[02:09:49] YOU CAN GO INTO IRAN BUT YOU ARE
[02:09:52] GOING TO FAIL.
[02:09:54] AND THAT IS WHERE WE ARE AT. THERE IS NOT AN ECONOMIC SANCTION.
[02:09:59] WE HAVE TRIED THAT FOR 40 YEARS.
[02:10:01] TIME IS ON IRAN'S SIDE.
[02:10:05] THE GLOBAL ECONOMY CANNOT SUSTAIN THIS. TRUMP KNOWS THAT AND IRAN KNOWS THAT.
[02:10:09] PART OF THE PROBLEM IN THIS IS
[02:10:12] THAT ISRAEL WANTS THE WAR AND IT
[02:10:17] SEEMS ISRAEL DRIVES THE FOREIGN POLICY IN THE UNITED STATES AND CERTAINLY NOT THE PEOPLE OF THE
[02:10:21] UNITED STATES.
[02:10:23] AMERICANS NEED TO GRAB HOLD OF
[02:10:28] THE GOVERNMENT AND KICK OUT ALL THE POLITICIANS ACCEPTING MONEY
[02:10:31] FROM APAC OR DEFENDING OUR KIDS
[02:10:36] OVERSEAS TO DIE FOR WORDS THAT DON'T BENEFIT US IN THAT WILL
[02:10:38] CONTINUE TO HAPPEN LIKE IT HAS.
[02:10:42] >> OKAY, TONY FROM PENNSYLVANIA. THANKS.
[02:10:44] >> ANY RESPONSE?
[02:10:51] >> THE CHALLENGE IS -- THE U.S.
[02:10:59] HAS NO SOLUTION. THE PROBLEM HERE IS [
[02:11:03] INDISCERNIBLE ] AND THIS
[02:11:03] ADMINISTRATION [ INDISCERNIBLE ]
[02:11:14] AND IT IS VERY COSTLY TO PRESENT
[02:11:16] A NARRATIVE.
[02:11:19] BECAUSE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT
[02:11:23] IRAN, [ INDISCERNIBLE ].
[02:11:26] AT THE SAME TIME, THERE IS SUCH
[02:11:28] A GAP IN EVIDENCE AND GAP IN
[02:11:33] UNDERSTANDING.
[02:11:36] AND CREATING THE MISCALCULATION.
[02:11:39] AND I BELIEVE PRESIDENT TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, REGARDLESS OF
[02:11:42] THE PLAN.
[02:11:50] THE POLITICAL PRESSURE AND
[02:11:51] ECONOMIC PRESSURE ARE NOT THE
[02:11:56] SAME.
[02:11:57] AND [ INDISCERNIBLE ] AND THEIR
[02:12:11] WILLING TO ACCEPT THE DEAL.
[02:12:12] BUT, WE KNOW THE PRESSURE WILL
[02:12:20] NOT WORK.
[02:12:23] IF YOU WANT TO OVER THE PRESSURE, YOU HAVE TO ADD SOME
[02:12:25] INCENTIVES WITH THAT PRESSURE
[02:12:27] LIKE THE EXPERIENCE WE HAVE HAD.
[02:12:31] AND ADDING INCENTIVES WITH THE
[02:12:33] SANCTIONS.
[02:12:37] AND CREATING SOME CONFLICT.
[02:12:41] AND MAKING IT COSTLY FOR IRAN.
[02:12:45] SO THEY PREFER TO COMPROMISE.
[02:12:46] SO RIGHT NOW, THERE IS NO SUCH
[02:12:50] INCENTIVE.
[02:12:51] AND THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN PROVIDE
[02:12:57] THIS IS TO BE MORE ACCEPTED.
[02:13:03] [ INDISCERNIBLE ] THAT IS A PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE IN THIS
[02:13:07] SITUATION.
[02:13:09] IT IS VERY COSTLY FOR THE REGION
[02:13:12] AND THE FULL ESCALATION THAT HAS BEEN A DISASTER FOR EVERYONE.
[02:13:16] >> FROM TED IN MASSACHUSETTS.
[02:13:19] GO AHEAD ON THE DEMOCRAT LINE.
[02:13:24] >> I WAS WONDERING IF YOU CAN TELL ME WHY THE IRANIAN PEOPLE
[02:13:28] ARE FIGHTING A WAR OVER
[02:13:32] RELIGION.
[02:13:36] >> CAN YOU ELABORATE MORE? >> ELABORATE MORE PLEASE, CALL HER.
[02:13:39] >> I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY THE
[02:13:40] IRANIAN PEOPLE ARE FIGHTING A
[02:13:45] WAR OVER RELIGION. >> WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?
[02:13:49] >> ONE RELIGION SHOULDN'T BE FIGHTING ANOTHER RELIGION. THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET ALONG.
[02:13:53] THAT IS THE HOPE PURPOSE OF RELIGION.
[02:13:56] TO BE PEACEFUL.
[02:13:59] >> OKAY. LET ME TAKE THE QUESTION AND ASK
[02:14:03] YOU ANOTHER ONE. THE PEOPLE OF IRAN, GENERALLY,
[02:14:06] HOW ARE THEY ACTING TO DECISIONS
[02:14:10] MADE BY LEADERSHIP WHEN IT COMES
[02:14:11] TO MILITARY CONFRONTATION?
[02:14:15] >> WE DON'T HAVE RELIABLE SURVEYS. HERE, WE HAVE SURVEYS WE CAN
[02:14:19] LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE AND ANY
[02:14:23] 10 PEOPLE CAN TALK ABOUT
[02:14:26] POLITICS IN THE U.S. OR FOREIGN POLICY.
[02:14:28] RECENTLY, THERE WAS A SURVEY
[02:14:33] CONDUCTED BY [ INDISCERNIBLE
[02:14:40] ] -- AND 50 5% WILL SATISFY THE
[02:14:44] SITUATION.
[02:14:44] WE SUPPORT FOR OR CHANGE -- AND
[02:14:55] [ INDISCERNIBLE ] AND AT THE SAME TIME, THEY ARE NOT HAPPY
[02:14:57] WITH THE STATUS QUO.
[02:15:03] [ INDISCERNIBLE ].
[02:15:05] AT THE SAME TIME, MAYBE IT IS [
[02:15:17] INDISCERNIBLE ] AND BEING SUPPRESSED.
[02:15:18] AND [ INDISCERNIBLE ] AND THEN
[02:15:28] THAT WOULD [ INDISCERNIBLE ]
[02:15:41] NOW, AND SO ALSO WE DON'T KNOW
[02:15:57] THE COST.
[02:16:00] THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT AFTER
[02:16:03] THE COLLAPSE, THAT WE WILL HAVE
[02:16:10] THE RESULT.
[02:16:12] SO LOOKING AT SYRIA AND LIBYA [
[02:16:19] INDISCERNIBLE ] THAT IS WHY I
[02:16:20] BELIEVE -- AT THE SAME TIME, WE
[02:16:26] ARE NOT SUPPORTING LIKE THE WAR
[02:16:33] OR COLLAPSE. THAT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO SEE.
[02:16:37] THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE WAR OR SUPPORT WAR.
[02:16:41] AND I DON'T BELIEVE THE SYSTEM [
[02:16:47] INDISCERNIBLE ] RIGHT NOW.
[02:16:52] AND SO THERE CAUGHT AND SOME LIMBO.
[02:16:55] AND CHANGING THE LEADERSHIP, [
[02:17:04] INDISCERNIBLE ] OR ANY POSITIVE CHANGE IN THE FUTURE.
[02:17:06] AND SO DOESN'T HAVE ANY FUTURE.
[02:17:12] AND SOME LIMBO.
[02:17:17] >> FOR OUR GUEST, THIS IS SARAH IN MARYLAND ON THE DEMOCRAT
[02:17:20] LINE. >> I FIRST WANT TO GIVE A HIGH
[02:17:23] FIVE TO TONY.
[02:17:28] ON SPOT. THIS IS A RICH MAN'S --
[02:17:32] >> YOU ARE BREAKING UP.
[02:17:33] ARE YOU THERE?
[02:17:39] >> MAKE SUPER FANCY WEAPONS. THEY MAKE SUPER FANCY WEAPONS THAT RIGHT NOW ARE BEING TAKEN
[02:17:42] OUT BY LAWNMOWERS ESSENTIALLY
[02:17:46] DRONES, THROWN AT THEM. AND WE ARE ON OUR BACK HEELS.
[02:17:50] THAT IS NOT GOOD FOR AMERICA. THAT IS NOT GOOD FOR OUR PEOPLE
[02:17:53] OR OUR COUNTRY. >> OKAY, SARAH.
[02:17:57] WE WILL TAKE THAT. YOU ARE BREAKING IN AND OUT.
[02:18:00] THANK YOU FOR THE CALL. YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS.
[02:18:03] THERE IS A VIEWER THAT ASKED YOU
[02:18:05] ABOUT THE POWER OF THE IRGC AND
[02:18:10] HOW MUCH THIS HAS AND HOW IT COMPLICATES ANY NEGOTIATIONS GOING FORWARD.
[02:18:13] HE ALSO SAID EARLIER THAT NOT ONLY DOES IT CHANGE THE
[02:18:17] DECISION-MAKING PROCESS IN IRAN
[02:18:19] BECAUSE OF THE WAR BUT ALSO WHO IS MAKING THOSE DECISIONS.
[02:18:22] CAN YOU TIE ALL THOSE THINGS
[02:18:23] TOGETHER.
[02:18:28] >> [ INDISCERNIBLE ] OVER THE
[02:18:31] DECISION-MAKING.
[02:18:35] MANY IRANIAN POLITICIANS AND
[02:18:36] LEADERS HAVE SOME AFFILIATION
[02:18:40] WITH THE IRGC.
[02:18:43] IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR [
[02:18:46] INDISCERNIBLE ]. LIKE THE PRIME MINISTER WAS PART
[02:18:50] OF THE IRGC.
[02:18:50] AND ANY PARTICIPATED IN THE WAR.
[02:18:59] VERY DIFFICULT TO SAY IT IS THE IRGC.
[02:19:02] THE POINT IS THAT -- THEY HAVE
[02:19:07] FUNCTIONS. SOME PRAGMATIC AND SOME
[02:19:11] IDEOLOGICAL.
[02:19:12] IN SOME -- IRGC.
[02:19:27] AND THE NATIONAL SECURITY NATIOY COUNCIL SUPPORTED THE MOU AND
[02:19:30] WANTS TO SIGN A DEAL.
[02:19:32] AND SO WE DON'T KNOW.
[02:19:37] WHICH PART OF THE [ INDISCERNIBLE ].
[02:19:41] THE ENTITY, PART OF THE GROUP.
[02:19:49] PART OF THAT IS THEY ARE PRAGMATIC. AND VERY DIFFICULT TO SAY THAT.
[02:19:53] AND THE NEW SYSTEM -- THE
[02:19:56] SANCTIONS.
[02:20:00] THEY CREATE SOME SORT OF SHADOW
[02:20:01] BANKING TRADE.
[02:20:05] WORKING WITH THE FORMAL TRADE.
[02:20:14] WE HAVE THE FORMAL ECONOMY SYSTEM AND THE DECISION-MAKING.
[02:20:16] WE DON'T KNOW THE SHADOW
[02:20:19] DECISION TO SHADOW TRADE.
[02:20:22] THIS IS A WAY THEY MANAGE THE
[02:20:26] SANCTIONS. AFTER THE WAR, WE HAVE THE SHADOW DECISION-MAKING PARTLY
[02:20:29] BECAUSE, WE CAN KNOW WHERE IT
[02:20:35] IS.
[02:20:40] AND A FEW LETTERS -- LEADERS
[02:20:44] COULD [ INDISCERNIBLE ].
[02:20:49] WE CHANGE THE ARRANGEMENT.
[02:20:53] AND THE SHADOW DECISION-MAKING,
[02:20:54] PARTLY WITH IRGC AND ALSO,
[02:21:04] BESIDES THE OTHER FORMAL
[02:21:05] INSTITUTIONS, I ENCOURAGE THEM [
[02:21:11] INDISCERNIBLE ] AND THE NATIONAL
[02:21:15] COUNCIL TO CREATE SOME SORT OF
[02:21:23] COORDINATION SOME TIME.
[02:21:26] AT THE SAME TIME, WE WITNESS THE
[02:21:32] CONFIDENCE THEY HAVE AND
[02:21:38] ACTUALLY LESS PREDICTABLE.
[02:21:43] AND BECAUSE OF THAT, WE HAVE THE
[02:21:48] MEETING BETWEEN THEM.
[02:21:50] WITH JD VANCE AND [
[02:22:00] INDISCERNIBLE ], 40, 45 YEARS
[02:22:03] OLD.
[02:22:05] SO IT IS NOT THE IRGC
[02:22:11] CONTROLLING EVERYTHING IT SAID
[02:22:13] THE COUNTRY.
[02:22:17] AND UNDERSTANDING WHO THE IRGC
[02:22:18] IS.
[02:22:22] >> FROM CARLOS IN NEW YORK, INDEPENDENT LINE. HELLO.
[02:22:25] >> CAN YOU HEAR ME ALL RIGHT?
[02:22:30] >> YES. ABOUT IRAN, IF YOU DON'T TAKE --
[02:22:33] TO GET BACK TO WHAT WE DID THE
[02:22:34] ORIGINAL ATTACK THERE -- YOU ARE
[02:22:38] IGNORING REALITY. THE FACT IS THAT THEY STATED THEY HAVE ENOUGH ENRICHED
[02:22:42] URANIUM WITH 60%, TO 85, 90, FOR
[02:22:48] IT TO BE USEFUL IN PALMS.
[02:22:53] BUT GETTING THE EQUIPMENT TO DO THAT. THEY WOULD HAVE HAD IT WITHIN A COUPLE OF YEARS.
[02:22:57] AT WHICH POINT, YOU CAN COUNT ON ISRAEL BEING DESTROYED AND POSSIBLY NUCLEAR ATTACKS ON
[02:23:01] EUROPE AS WELL, BEING A VERY
[02:23:05] HIGH PROBABILITY.
[02:23:08] THAT IS WHY WE WENT IN THERE. THEY WERE DEVELOPING BALLISTIC
[02:23:11] MISSILES WHICH WOULD HAVE MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO DO SO
[02:23:15] SUCCESSFULLY. IT WAS PROBABLY SEVERAL YEARS OUT.
[02:23:18] BUT THEY WERE AT VERY CRITICAL
[02:23:23] STAGES OF GETTING THE INFRASTRUCTURE. THE EQUIPMENT BUILT AND
[02:23:27] NECESSARY TO DEVELOP THE EQUIPMENT TO LEAD TO THE MUSCLES.
[02:23:30] >> WE WENT IN WHEN WE COULD DO
[02:23:33] SO AND WE SET THE WAY
[02:23:40] GEOPOLITICALLY AND TACTICALLY. IT IS ONE OF THE BEST MILITARY
[02:23:41] MOVES A LEADER OF THE UNITED STATES HAS CALLED FOR PROBABLY
[02:23:45] SENSE MID WORLD WAR II.
[02:23:52] >> OKAY. THAT WAS CARLOS IN NEW YORK.
[02:23:56] HOW DO YOU SWEAR WHAT HE SAID AS FAR AS THE ADMINISTRATION'S
[02:23:58] INITIAL REASONS FOR GOING INTO
[02:24:00] IRAN?
[02:24:02] WHICH WHAT WE ARE SEEING NOW IS
[02:24:05] THE STRAIGHT OF HORMUZ.
[02:24:11] >> THEY HAVE A VERY STRONG,
[02:24:12] MUTED POWER.
[02:24:16] [ INDISCERNIBLE ] AND SHOWING
[02:24:17] THE CAPABILITY.
[02:24:21] IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST 10
[02:24:23] YEARS, LOOKING AT 2018, [
[02:24:30] INDISCERNIBLE ] IN THE WAR.
[02:24:37] AND SO ENRICHMENT WAS AT
[02:24:45] THREE-POINT 5%. AFTER PRESIDENT TRUMP, AFTER ONE
[02:24:48] AND A HALF YEARS, STARTING [
[02:24:52] INDISCERNIBLE ] AND IRANIAN
[02:24:57] SCIENTISTS, IRANIANS TRIED TO CREATE SOME PRESSURE OR LEVERAGE
[02:25:00] TO INCREASE ACCESS TO THE
[02:25:03] INFORMATION.
[02:25:07] BY INCREASING THE LEVEL OF
[02:25:08] ENRICHMENT SO WE CAN REACH FROM
[02:25:13] 3%, TO 20% AND THEN 60% AND THEN
[02:25:18] THE [ INDISCERNIBLE ] TONE UNDER
[02:25:22] 200 WITH THE JCPOA, AND SO, 30
[02:25:33] TIMES MORE.
[02:25:34] AND [ INDISCERNIBLE ] FROM [
[02:25:44] INDISCERNIBLE ] -- [
[02:25:52] INDISCERNIBLE ] I BELIEVE IT
[02:25:58] COULD BE MANAGED THROUGH
[02:25:59] NEGOTIATION AND THROUGH THE
[02:26:03] REGIONAL -- TALKS WITH THE
[02:26:06] REGIONAL NATION AND STATES.
[02:26:10] NOW THE PROBLEM IS NOT -- THE
[02:26:14] PROBLEM BENEATH ALL OF THIS.
[02:26:18] WE DON'T KNOW TOMORROW.
[02:26:21] THE NEXT PROBLEM OR THE ISSUE
[02:26:24] WOULD BE WITH IRAN HAVING A
[02:26:29] NUCLEAR WEAPON AND WE DON'T
[02:26:37] KNOW.
[02:26:46] [ INDISCERNIBLE ] WHAT THEY HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO DO IT. SO I'M TALKING ABOUT WHEN YOU
[02:26:49] JUST RELY ON [ INDISCERNIBLE ],
[02:26:55] WHEN WE TRY TO USE IT, WITH
[02:27:00] SANCTIONS -- SO WE CREATE A NEW
[02:27:03] PROBLEM IN THE COST -- WE ARE
[02:27:07] LOOKING AT THE CONFIDENCE AFTER
[02:27:16] THE WAR. THE U.S. KILLED THE [
[02:27:17] INDISCERNIBLE ] LEADER.
[02:27:26] 327 -- SANCTIONS.
[02:27:30] AND DIPLOMACY CAN HELP TO MANAGE
[02:27:40] AND SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
[02:27:42] YOU HAVE TO USE WITH INCENTIVES.
[02:27:54] [ INDISCERNIBLE ]. >> THERE IS A STORY STEMMING FROM THIS WEEK SAYING WE WOULD
[02:27:58] BE NEXT WEEK ON MONDAY WHERE THE TREASURY SECRETARY SCOTT BESSENT
[02:28:02] SAID THEY WILL INTRODUCE MORE ECONOMIC MEASURES THAT THEY
[02:28:03] CLAIM WILL SQUASH THE ECONOMY IN
[02:28:06] IRAN AND COLLAPSE THE REGIME. WHAT HAVE THEY SAID ABOUT THE
[02:28:09] APPROACH PREVIOUSLY AND CAN YOU
[02:28:11] MEASURE THE CHANGE?
[02:28:16] >> SO THE NOMINAL [
[02:28:18] INDISCERNIBLE ] ON IRAN INVOLVES
[02:28:21] 3700 CASES.
[02:28:25] EVERYTHING IS UNDER SANCTION.
[02:28:28] AND ALSO MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE
[02:28:31] BLOCKADE, CLOSING ACCESS [
[02:28:34] INDISCERNIBLE ] AND NO ACCESS TO
[02:28:38] IMPORTS.
[02:28:47] >> ANYMORE SANCTIONS OR ANYMORE
[02:28:49] BLOCKADES [ INDISCERNIBLE ] BUT
[02:28:56] UNDER HEAVY PRESSURE.
[02:29:00] SO THE SANCTIONS USUALLY TAKE
[02:29:04] ONE YEAR, SIX MONTHS, TWO YEARS
[02:29:05] AND THE ECONOMY LEARNS HOW TO
[02:29:08] MANAGE AND CONDUCT ITSELF AND
[02:29:13] HELP MANAGE IT.
[02:29:18] I DON'T BELIEVE THE SANCTIONS
[02:29:20] WOULD PUT MORE FORCE ON IT. CHINA WOULD BE HELPFUL TO MAKE
[02:29:23] THINGS [ INDISCERNIBLE ] MORE WU
[02:29:30] KILL NECESSARILY THE LEADER OF THE COUNTRY. YOU KILL ALL THE COMMANDERS.
[02:29:35] THERE IS ONLY COST OF ALL THAT
[02:29:37] YOU CAN PUSH TO HAVE MILITARY RESOLVE.
[02:29:40] I DON'T BELIEVE NEW SANCTION WOULD BE VERY PAINFUL FOR IRAN'S ECONOMY.
[02:29:44] OF COURSE FOR IRANIAN PEOPLE THE COST OF SANCTION IS MORE
[02:29:49] INFLATION, MORE AUTHORITY, YOU
[02:29:52] KNOW, ACCESS TO THEIR EDUCATION,
[02:29:56] HEALTH, AND EVERYTHING, BUT IT
[02:29:57] DOESN'T MEAN THIS IN FURTHER
[02:30:01] ECONOMY PRESSURE WOULD LEAD TO
[02:30:06] EFFECTIVE DOMESTIC PRESSURE ON SIDE OF IRAN AND LEAD TO DESIRED
[02:30:10] OUTCOME WASHINGTON WANTS.
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[02:31:44] >> CAMPAIGN 20 IS UNDERWAY AND
[02:31:49] THE STAKES COULDN'T BE HIGHER. EVERY SEAT IN THE UNITED STATES
[02:31:53] HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES IS UP
[02:31:53] FOR GRABS ALONG WITH 33 U.S.
[02:31:58] SENATE RACES AND THE OUTCOME OF BOTH COULD RESHAPE THE BALANCE OF POWER IN WASHINGTON.
[02:32:02] VOTERS WILL DECIDE 36 GUBERNATORIAL CONTESTS.
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[02:32:36] ANTHONY, BRONX, NEW YORK.
[02:32:38] YOU'RE ON, GO AHEAD. CALLER: MY QUESTION IS, WHY
[02:32:42] SHOULD TRUMP -- WHY SHOULD TRUMP
[02:32:46] GET THE SHIP NAMED AFTER HIM
[02:32:48] WHEN HE HASN'T -- HE DIDN'T SIGN UP FOR THE MILITARY?
[02:32:52] AND MILLER HAS HARBOR IN THE
[02:33:01] NAVY SHIPS THAT AWARDED A MEDAL.
[02:33:06] WHY SHOULD THAT BE NAMED AFTER HIM, MILLER?
[02:33:09] HOST: JAN, FLORIDA, INDEPENDENT LINE.
[02:33:13] HI. CALLER: I'M INTERESTED IN
[02:33:17] CALLING ABOUT THE PREVIOUS
[02:33:20] SPEAKER REGARDING THE WAR IN I RAN.
[02:33:22] I WAS BORN AT THE END OF WORLD WAR II.
[02:33:29] MY MOTHER WAS ONE OF THE ROSY RIVETERS.
[02:33:33] WE HAVE GONE THROUGH A TREMENDOUS OF PEOPLE IN OUR ENVIRONMENT THROUGHOUT MY LIFETIME.
[02:33:42] I'VE SEEN THE DESTRUCTION OF PROBABLY HALF OF OUR ENVIRONMENT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
[02:33:47] AND BECAUSE OF WARS, BECAUSE OF
[02:33:52] PEOPLE THAT CONTINUE TO WANT TO PUT MONEY INTO BUILDING MORE
[02:33:55] WEAPONS, WE'RE NOT FINDING
[02:34:00] SOLUTIONS TO OUR PROBLEMS THE WAY WE SHOULD.
[02:34:02] I BELIEVE MORE WOMEN'S VOICES
[02:34:05] SHOULD BE HEARD IN SETTLING OUR ARGUMENTS WITH OTHER NATIONS.
[02:34:09] AND I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE DONE
[02:34:11] THROUGH NEGOTIATION, NOT BOMBING OTHER COUNTRIES.
[02:34:18] WE ARE BEING PREEMPTIVE. I THINK THAT'S WRONG.
[02:34:21] I THINK THE PEOPLE OF IRAN ARE GOING TO BE VERY DISSATISFIED WITH US.
[02:34:27] WE HAD WONDERFUL
[02:34:32] NEGOTIATORS FROM JOHN KERRY WHO HAD BEEN IN VIETNAM AS AN
[02:34:34] OFFICER AND HE HELPED TO END THAT WAR WHEN HE CAME BACK WITH OTHER OFFICERS.
[02:34:38] HE WAS INVOLVED IN THE NEGOTIATION WITH IRAN.
[02:34:44] I BELIEVE IT WAS A GOOD -- A GOOD AGREEMENT AND IT SHOULD HAVE HELD.
[02:34:49] AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN CHARGE NOW, I'M SAD TO SAY,
[02:34:53] DON'T KNOW THE -- EXCUSE ME -- THE FIRST THING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
[02:34:58] I'M SORRY, I'VE HAD A STROKE SO MAYBE MY SPEECHES IN AS GOOD AS IT SHOULD BE.
[02:35:02] HOST: YOU GOT YOUR POINT ACROSS.
[02:35:06] THANKS FOR CALLING IN. SHARON IN OREGON ON THE DEMOCRATS LINE.
[02:35:10] YOU ARE NEXT ON OPEN FORUM. CALLER: I WAS GOING TO TALK
[02:35:15] ABOUT THE ECONOMY. I HOPE TO GET IN WITH THE SPEAKER, BUT HE DIDN'T.
[02:35:18] I WILL MAKE IT QUICK. THEY KNEW THE BIG, BEAUTIFUL
[02:35:23] BILL -- BECAUSE THE SHORT TIME
[02:35:26] AROUND -- THE FIRST ON
[02:35:29] AROUND IT AT A $2 TRILLION TO THE DEBT.
[02:35:31] THE CURRENT ONE WILL ADD OVER $7 TRILLION.
[02:35:35] THEY ALSO -- BUT THEY DECIDED
[02:35:41] WAS THEY WERE GOING TO BALANCE
[02:35:43] IT BY PUTTING IN THE TARIFFS.
[02:35:46] SO THEY GIVE TAX CUTS WHICH LOWERED THE REVENUE FOR THE
[02:35:49] GOVERNMENT, WHICH PAYS FOR THE
[02:35:51] BILLS FOR THE RICH, AND IN TURN
[02:35:55] THE TARIFFS, WHICH MAINLY AFFECTED THE MIDDLE-CLASS AND
[02:35:58] THE POOR, WOULD TAKE UP FOR
[02:36:03] THOSE CUTS. THE TROUBLE WAS THE TARIFFS ONLY
[02:36:06] BROUGHT IN 215 BILLION DOLLARS.
[02:36:09] AND THAT GOT CUT DOWN TO $100
[02:36:11] BILLION BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THEY WERE ILLEGAL.
[02:36:15] NOW WE ARE WAY IN THE WHOLE. -- IN THE HOLE.
[02:36:20] ON TOP OF THIS 46% -- EXCUSE ME
[02:36:24] -- I'M SORRY, I'M SO NERVOUS, I'M SORRY.
[02:36:27] HOST: YOU'RE FINE. GO AHEAD.
[02:36:31] CALLER: I'M SO NERVOUS.
[02:36:34] WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IN TERMS
[02:36:36] OF THE WONDERFUL DOGE THEY
[02:36:40] CLAIMED THEY CUT 215 TRILLION WHICH IS NOTHING OF WHAT WE OWE,
[02:36:43] BUT IT WAS UPDATED AND THE GAO
[02:36:46] SAID IT WAS ONLY ONE HUNDRED 10 END OF THE 2500 CONTRACTS THEY
[02:36:50] SAID THEY CANCELED 96% OF THEM DIDN'T HAPPEN. IT WAS A LIE.
[02:36:53] HOST: SHARON IN OREGON, THANK
[02:36:57] YOU FOR CALLING IN.
[02:36:58] WE NOW KNOW LITTLE ABOUT THE
[02:37:01] FUTURE OF WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY KAROLINE LEAVITT. IT'S REPORTED THAT THE HILL AND
[02:37:04] OTHER PLACES SHE IS LEAVING THE
[02:37:07] TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, WHICH WAS ANNOUNCED PREVIOUS, SHE SET TO
[02:37:11] WORK AT THE MAGA PRESIDENT'S
[02:37:12] MAGA INC. SUPER PAC THAT SHE
[02:37:16] CONFIRMED ON FRIDAY. SHE SHARED HER NEXT CAREER MOVE WITH REPORTERS OUTSIDE OF YOUR
[02:37:20] FIRST ONE ON FRIDAY ONE WEEK AFTER SHE ANNOUNCED SHE WOULD STEP DOWN AT THE END OF AUGUST
[02:37:23] TO SPEND MORE TIME WITH HER FAMILY. SHE DID NOT ELABORATE ON WHAT
[02:37:27] HER TITLE WOULD BE AT MAGA INC,
[02:37:32] SITTING AT OVER 350 MILLION DOLLARS OF CAMPAIGN FUNDS AHEAD
[02:37:35] OF THE NOVEMBER MIDTERMS. SHE MADE THIS ANNOUNCEMENT AS
[02:37:38] THE PRESIDENT WAS TRAVELING TO
[02:37:40] SOUTH CAROLINA TO HELP SUPPORT SENATOR DARLINE GRAHAM IN HER
[02:37:43] EFFORT TO WIN. IT WAS DURING THE TIME OF THE
[02:37:47] PRESIDENT MADE THESE COMMENTS ABOUT DARLINE GRAHAM. [VIDEO CLIP]
[02:37:49] >> YOU HAVE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
[02:37:53] STANDING OUTSIDE, CAN'T GET IN. THEY ARE STANDING OUTSIDE AND WE
[02:37:56] ARE NOT EVEN REALLY RUNNING, BUT WE ARE RUNNING, BECAUSE WE HAVE
[02:37:59] TO GET DARLINE AND OTHER PEOPLE
[02:38:04] ELECTED. SO WE ARE RUNNING.
[02:38:05] AND OF THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE
[02:38:09] IS IF THEY SAY THAT TRUMP DOES GREAT WHEN HE'S ON THE BALLOT,
[02:38:13] BUT WHEN HE'S NOT ON THE BALLOT
[02:38:15] HIS PEOPLE DON'T COME AND THEY DON'T VOTE FOR SENATORS,
[02:38:19] CONGRESSMEN, AND OTHER REPUBLICANS, AND THAT THESE
[02:38:23] PEOPLE, THEY ARE RUNNING, THEY ARE GREAT, BUT IF TRUMP ISN'T
[02:38:27] ACTUALLY ON THE BALLOT -- SO,
[02:38:28] WHAT I REALLY WANT YOU TO DO IS
[02:38:32] PRETEND, PLEASE, THAT I'M ON THE BALLOT. JUST COME AND VOTE. IT'S SO IMPORTANT.
[02:38:38] SO JUST SAY THAT I'M ON THE
[02:38:43] BALLOT ONE MORE TIME. YOU'VE GOT TO SAY IT.
[02:38:45] AND YOU'VE GOT TO COME OUT. AND VOTE.
[02:38:48] HOST: IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE.
[02:38:52] SPEECH BY THE PRESIDENT YOU CAN GO TO OUR WEBSITE AND APP TO SEE MORE.
[02:38:58] (202) 748-8001 FOR REPUBLICANS. (202) 748-8000 FOR DEMOCRATS.
[02:39:01] INDEPENDENTS, (202) 748-8002. ANY IN FLORIDA, INDEPENDENT LINE.
[02:39:05] CALLER: HI.
[02:39:10] YEAH, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THE BIG DEAL ABOUT THIS NATALIE
[02:39:13] HEART -- I THINK IS HER NAME.
[02:39:19] IF HE HAS AN ASSISTANT AND EVERY
[02:39:20] ONCE IN A WHILE HE NEEDS TO GRAB
[02:39:26] HER TO GET SOME ASSISTANCE, I DON'T THINK THERE SHOULD BE
[02:39:30] ANYTHING NEW AND WRONG WITH THAT .
[02:39:33] IT WAS OK WHEN HE SAID HE WOULD
[02:39:39] PUT A TICK TACK IN HIS MOUTH AND
[02:39:43] KISSED GIRLS AND GRAB THEM BY SOMEPLACE LOWER THAN THEIR
[02:39:46] WAISTBAND AND GO INTO E. JEAN
[02:39:50] CARROLL'S DRESSING ROOM AND
[02:39:52] MOLEST HER --
[02:39:55] HOST: WE GOT IT.
[02:39:59] CALLER: THE POINT I WOULD LIKE
[02:40:04] TO MAKE IS THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ IS SUPPOSED TO BE INTERNATIONAL WATER.
[02:40:10] NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO CLOSE THAT DOWN. SO COUNTRIES LIKE BRITAIN AND
[02:40:15] FRANCE, WHO HAVE LOTS OF
[02:40:18] MINESWEEPERS, WHY AREN'T THEY GETTING THE MINDS OUT OF THE WAY SO THAT THE INTERNATIONAL
[02:40:22] WATERWAY -- MINES OUT OF THE WAY
[02:40:27] SO THE INTERNATIONAL WATERWAY CAN BE OPENED? I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE
[02:40:31] SHOULD INSIST THAT THEY DO. THANK YOU FOR C-SPAN.
[02:40:35] HOST: JERRY IN MICHIGAN, DEMOCRATS LINE.
[02:40:38] CALLER: THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT HOW
[02:40:42] MUCH MONEY THE REPUBLICANS ARE SPENDING TO GET ELECTED AND EVERYTHING.
[02:40:49] I THINK IT'S REALLY HURTING
[02:40:51] THEM, BECAUSE WE ARE AVERAGE
[02:40:53] EVERYDAY PEOPLE TRYING TO MAKE A
[02:40:58] LIVING AND THEY ARE SPENDING ALL THIS MONEY.
[02:41:05] AND I JUST CAN'T SEE -- I'M GLAD
[02:41:08] THEY ARE BRINGING ALL THIS MONEY
[02:41:09] IN, BUT YOU CAN'T BUY THE AVERAGE AMERICAN.
[02:41:15] THEY ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR WHO THEY WANT TO.
[02:41:17] YOU CAN'T SPEND ALL THAT MONEY, BUT WE APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING
[02:41:21] MORE MONEY TO MICHIGAN AND
[02:41:23] SPENDING IT, BECAUSE IT HELPS OUR ECONOMY.
[02:41:28] AND I'M JUST GLAD THAT THE
[02:41:31] PEOPLE CAN'T BE BOUGHT, THAT
[02:41:35] AREN'T SPENDING THAT MUCH MONEY AND STILL WINNING.
[02:41:37] HOST: MELISSA JOINS US FROM NEW
[02:41:41] YORK. INDEPENDENT LINE. CALLER: THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING.
[02:41:47] I COULDN'T GET THROUGH WITH
[02:41:50] HIGHER EDUCATION IN OUR COUNTRY. I'M GETTING READY TO RETIRE.
[02:41:54] I'VE BEEN A COUNTY PROFESSOR IN THE SECOND LARGEST PUBLIC UNIVERSITY SYSTEM IN THE COUNTRY
[02:41:58] FOR THE LAST 40 THREE YEARS.
[02:42:00] WHAT I'VE SEEN PERSONALLY,
[02:42:04] EXPERIENCED, IS DISHEARTENING AND ATROCIOUS.
[02:42:07] WHEN I STARTED 43 YEARS AGO I
[02:42:09] WAS ABLE TO TEACH JUST AS THE
[02:42:11] COMMUNITY COLLEGE I WAS AT LIKE
[02:42:15] ANY OTHER UNIVERSITY. I EXPECTED A LOT.
[02:42:18] I WAS DEMANDING. THE STUDENTS WERE THERE, WILLING, ABLE, AND WANTING TO
[02:42:22] ACHIEVE.
[02:42:24] ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO, MANY OF MY
[02:42:28] COLLEAGUES CAME UP WITH A TERM CALLED ACADEMIC MALPRACTICE.
[02:42:31] AS WE HAD TO LOWER, AND LOWER,
[02:42:35] AND LOWER OUR STANDARDS OVER THE YEARS WE WERE NO LONGER TEACHING ON A COLLEGE LEVEL.
[02:42:38] I CAN TELL YOU, IT IS A VERY SERIOUS CIRCUMSTANCE.
[02:42:44] COMMITTEE, MANY FULL-TIME FACULTY HAVE BEEN RETIRING AND
[02:42:47] BEING REPLACED BY ADJUNCTS. NOTHING AGAINST ADJUNCTS, BUT
[02:42:50] THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS CHANGING.
[02:42:54] MY GREATEST FEAR FOR THE FUTURE IS, WE DIDN'T HAVE SHORTCUTS
[02:42:58] GOING BACK 40, 50, SALON YEARS
[02:43:00] AGO, BUT THERE ARE SO MANY SHORTCUTS NOW.
[02:43:03] I WONDER IN TERMS OF THE FUTURE HOW IMPORTANT CRITICAL THINKING
[02:43:06] WILL BE WHEN SO MUCH OF THE
[02:43:09] THINKING THAT WILL HAPPEN WILL BE DONE FOR US.
[02:43:11] HOST: ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE
[02:43:15] USE OF AI TECHNOLOGY AND THE LIKE?
[02:43:19] CALLER: ABSOLUTELY. EIGHT.
[02:43:20] WHEN I WAS A STUDENT WE DIDN'T
[02:43:23] HAVE HANDHELD CALCULATORS, GRAPHING CALCULATORS.
[02:43:26] YOU HAD TO BUILD CRITICAL THINKING. STUDYING.
[02:43:30] EFFORT. NOW THEY SAY, MY GOODNESS, DON'T
[02:43:34] GIVE HOMEWORK TO PUBLIC SCHOOL STUDENTS. YOU KNOW.
[02:43:37] THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT.
[02:43:38] IN THE NEWS THIS WEEK, THE LAST
[02:43:41] THING I WILL SAY, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW MAJOR
[02:43:44] UNIVERSITY SYSTEMS ARE NO LONGER GOING TO REQUIRE FORMAL GRADING
[02:43:47] FOR AT LEAST THE FIRST SEMESTER FRESHMAN, IF NOT FIRST AND SECOND SEMESTER.
[02:43:53] I DON'T WANT TO DISCOURAGE STUDENTS FROM GETTING -- YOU
[02:43:57] KNOW, IF THEY GET POOR GRADES,
[02:43:57] TO DROP OUT.
[02:44:03] ONE OF THE GREATEST RISKS THAT
[02:44:05] -- AT THE HIGHER EDUCATION
[02:44:09] IN THIS COUNTRY IS NOT HAVE INCOMING STUDENTS AND HAVE THEM GO THE FOUR YEARS.
[02:44:14] HOST: JOHN JOINING US FROM TEXAS.
[02:44:17] CALLER: I AGREE WITH THE EDUCATION SYSTEM AND THE QUALITY.
[02:44:21] I HAVE TWO GIRLS IN COLLEGE. WHEN YOU GET SIX CHANCES TO GET
[02:44:25] THE ANSWER RIGHT IT'S INSANE. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS PUSH
[02:44:29] BY THE SOCIALISTS FOR FREE MEDICARE. THEY DON'T REALIZE THAT NOTHING IS FREE.
[02:44:33] RIGHT NOW, IF YOU POSITION
[02:44:37] BASICALLY THE PRIVATE INSURANCE THAT PAYS $1.43 FOR EVERY ONE
[02:44:42] DOLLAR MEDICARE PAYS. IF YOU GO ON MEDICARE THEY HAVE
[02:44:45] YOUR DOCTOR WILL GET A 30% CUT IN PAY. HOW MANY WILL DO THAT?
[02:44:49] IT'S WORSE IN THE HOSPITALS. PRIVATE INSURANCE, THEY HAVE TO
[02:44:53] SUBSIDIZE THE OTHER PEOPLE GETTING FREE SERVICE, MEDICAID,
[02:44:57] PAYING OVER 200% WHAT MEDICARE PAYS.
[02:44:59] IF WE GO INTO MEDICARE FOR ALL, YOU WILL LOSE YOUR DOCTOR.
[02:45:03] THE LINES WILL BE LONG.
[02:45:05] THERE WILL BE NO HOSPITALS. MOSTLY DOCTORS WILL RETIRE.
[02:45:09] THERE IS NOTHING FOR FREE.
[02:45:11] PEOPLE HAVE TO REALIZE THIS IS A GAME.
[02:45:14] THEY ARE DUMBING DOWN EDUCATION. IT IS PART OF A LONG PLAN.
[02:45:17] WE DEPEND ON THE GOVERNMENT FOR EVERYTHING.
[02:45:20] IF WE GO TO MEDICARE FOR ALL WE ARE DONE. YOU WILL WAIT IN LINE.
[02:45:24] YOUR FAMILY WILL DIE. YOU WILL WAIT, PLUS ALL OF THE
[02:45:29] ILLEGALS COME IN.
[02:45:32] IT IS A TERRIBLE OPTION.
[02:45:35] THEY NEED TO LEARN NOTHING IS FREE. WOULD YOU WORK, WOULD YOU TAKE A
[02:45:39] 50% CUT AND KEEP WORKING TO DO TWICE THE WORK TO SURVIVE? NO.
[02:45:46] REALLY APPRECIATE IT. HOST: JOHN IN TEXAS.
[02:45:49] PERHAPS WERE ONE OF MANY WHO WATCHED OUR PROGRAM ON C-SPAN AS
[02:45:53] WE SIMULCAST TWO RADIO TALK SHOW HOSTS.
[02:45:55] STEPHANIE MILLER AND HUGH HEWITT DURING THE WEEK.
[02:45:59] WE WILL CONTINUE THAT TREND NEXT WEEK ON OUR NETWORKS ON C-SPAN 2.
[02:46:04] WE WILL CONTINUE TO BRING YOU THE LIVE TALK RADIO SIMULCAST.
[02:46:08] MONDAY AT 9:00 A.M. EASTERN THE FORMER REPUBLICAN TURNED
[02:46:11] INDEPENDENT MICHAEL SMERCONISH,
[02:46:16] CHALLENGING BOTH SIDES OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM.
[02:46:18] AT NOON PROGRESSIVE,
[02:46:22] COMMENTATOR THOM HARTMANN.
[02:46:26] AT 3:00 WE WILL TALK TO
[02:46:30] CONSERVATIVE RADIO TALKSHOW HOST HOWIE CARR.
[02:46:33] HE WILL FOCUS ON POLITICS IN THE NOVEMBER ELECTION.
[02:46:37] YOU CAN SEE THAT ON C-SPAN 2,
[02:46:40] OUR APP C-SPAN NOW, AND KISSED SIMULCASTS ON OUR WEBSITE,
[02:46:44] C-SPAN.ORG -- AND CATCH SIMULCASTS ON OUR WEBSITE, C-SPAN.ORG.
[02:46:49] CALLER: I WANT TO SAY PRESIDENT
[02:46:53] TRUMP SHOULD HAVE NEVER STIRRED UP THAT HORNETS NEST IN IRAN.
[02:46:57] HE SHOULD'VE LEFT THEM ALONE.
[02:47:01] THEY WEREN'T BOTHERING ANYBODY. THAT WAS FOR ISRAEL TO BOTHER
[02:47:04] THEM IF THEY WANTED TO. THAT'S TERRIBLE THAT WE GOT
[02:47:08] INVOLVED WITH THAT. JUST LIKE LEON PANETTA AND THOSE
[02:47:12] GENERALS STATED, WE SHOULD HAVE
[02:47:14] NEVER ASSASSINATED THOSE LEADERS OVER THERE.
[02:47:17] WE DON'T DO THAT SORT OF THING.
[02:47:19] WE SHOULDN'T BE DOING IT.
[02:47:22] ASSASSINATING OTHER COUNTRY'S LEADERS. THINK ABOUT IT.
[02:47:24] THAT MAN THAT'S IN CHARGE NOW, THAT WAS HIS FATHER.
[02:47:29] HE'S ALL STIRRED UP NOW AND HE WANTS REVENGE.
[02:47:31] THINK ABOUT THE DEAL THAT OBAMA HAD.
[02:47:34] THEY WILL NEVER GET BACK. BECAUSE NOW THEY ARE GOING TO
[02:47:37] USE THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ AS COLLATERAL. THEY ARE GOING TO USE THAT, AND
[02:47:41] THEY NEVER USED IT BEFORE WITH OBAMA'S DEAL.
[02:47:44] SEE, IT'S MAKING IT VERY WORSE FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP.
[02:47:47] HE'S NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO END THIS WAR BECAUSE THEY HAVE LEVERAGE NOW.
[02:47:52] THINK ABOUT IT. OBAMA HAD A GREAT DEAL AND
[02:47:55] PRESIDENT TRUMP WOULD BE OH SO LUCKY TO GET THAT DEAL BACK.
[02:47:57] HE IS GOING TO HAVE TO GET A LOT MORE.
[02:48:00] I'M TALKING ABOUT, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO REBUILD ALL THE
[02:48:03] DAMAGE WE DID TO THAT COUNTRY, BECAUSE THAT'S USUALLY WHAT WE
[02:48:07] DO, DON'T WE? WE HAVE TO REBUILD THOSE COUNTRIES WHEN WE DAMAGE IN THEM
[02:48:11] AND WE GET INVOLVED WITH THINGS WE SHOULD NOT GET INVOLVED IN.
[02:48:14] HE STARTED THIS WAR AND HE WILL PAY THE PRICE.
[02:48:17] AS A MATTER OF FACT, I DON'T WANT THEM TO EVER HAVE A NUCLEAR
[02:48:21] WEAPON -- DON'T GET ME WRONG. I'M KIND OF GLAD THEY ARE GIVING
[02:48:24] TRUMP A RUN FOR HIS MONEY.
[02:48:27] HOST: JONATHAN IN DALLAS, TEXAS. INDEPENDENT LINE.
[02:48:31] CALLER: HELLO.
[02:48:35] HOST: YOU ARE ON.
[02:48:37] CALLER: I THINK AMERICUS IS WE
[02:48:40] BELIEVE IN GOD AND INTEGRITY AND
[02:48:44] BEING UPRIGHT AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
[02:48:48] NO ONE IS SPEAKING ABOUT THE
[02:48:50] MILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
[02:48:53] THAT THE GOVERNMENT AND EVEN OUR LEADERS -- SENATORS AND HOUSE OF
[02:48:57] REPRESENTATIVES AND WHAT HAVE YOU -- HOW THEY ARE JUST DOING
[02:49:01] THINGS THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE
[02:49:06] OUR CHILDREN OUR GRANDCHILDREN TO DO. THEY ARE NOT VETTED.
[02:49:11] THEY ARE NOT -- I WOULD NOT
[02:49:16] POINT TO A LEADER IN THIS
[02:49:16] COUNTRY AND SAY, YOUNG MAN,
[02:49:21] YOUNG LADY, FOLLOW THIS PERSON.
[02:49:25] BECAUSE THEY ARE SO CORRUPT IN
[02:49:27] THEIR PERSONAL LIVES.
[02:49:31] OUR PRESIDENT -- HIM AND HIS
[02:49:33] FAMILY -- DOING SO MUCH
[02:49:36] CORRUPTION AND GETTING AWAY WITH IT.
[02:49:39] AND THEN THE POWERS TO BE ARE
[02:49:41] NOT SAYING ANYTHING.
[02:49:46] NO NOTHING.
[02:49:50] IT'S JUST WRONG. WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE A COUNTRY
[02:49:54] OF GOD AND CHRISTIANITY AND
[02:49:59] JESUS.
[02:50:02] I THINK NOT.
[02:50:05] HOST: JONATHAN IN DALLAS, TEXAS. SPEAKING ABOUT EFFORTS BY DONALD
[02:50:09] TRUMP AND THE TEXAS SENATE RACE SAYING THAT HIS SUPER PAC
[02:50:13] CONTINUED TO SIT ON ITS $400
[02:50:15] MILLION WARCHEST IN JULY, ACCORDING TO NEW SPENDING
[02:50:19] FIGURES, REFUSING TO OPEN
[02:50:20] COFFERS TO BOOST REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES.
[02:50:24] KEN PAXTON IS ESSENTIALLY IN A DEAD HEAT WITH THE DEMOCRAT
[02:50:27] JAMES TALARICO. REPUBLICAN DONORS SAY MR. TRUMP BEARS RESPONSIBILITY TO FINANCE
[02:50:31] THE CAMPAIGN NEEDED TO KEEP THE STATE FROM FLIPPING.
[02:50:34] MAGA INC IS NOT DIRECTLY
[02:50:39] CONTROLLED BY THE PRESIDENT AND IS SUPPOSED TO OPERATE
[02:50:43] INDEPENDENTLY. THE PRESIDENT HAS OFTEN HAD
[02:50:46] SIGNIFICANT SWAY OVER THE ORGANIZATION.
[02:50:48] THEY HAD 3 MILLION IN
[02:50:55] CASH ON HAND.
[02:50:56] THE PAC THEN IT SPENT ON BEHALF
[02:50:59] OF ANY CANDIDATES LAST MONTH.
[02:51:02] LET'S HEAR FROM FLORIDA, DEMOCRATS LINE.
[02:51:06] CALLER: HELLO. THANKS FOR C-SPAN.
[02:51:12] I WOULD LIKE TO STATE WE SHOULD
[02:51:17] NEVER HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN
[02:51:20] ATTACKING IRAN WITH ISRAEL ALONE
[02:51:24] .
[02:51:24] WE DIDN'T INVOLVE OUR ALLIES WHO
[02:51:29] , IF THEY ARE STILL OUR ALLIES,
[02:51:32] REALIZE THE FAILURE OF THE LEADERSHIP WE HAVE IN OUR COUNTRY.
[02:51:36] I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT POTUS
[02:51:42] SHOULD HAVE HIS NAME ON OUR
[02:51:44] COINAGE, OUR DOLLARS.
[02:51:48] I DON'T BELIEVE HE SHOULD BE
[02:51:49] REWARDED WITH A BALLROOM OR
[02:51:54] ARCH.
[02:51:56] WE HAVE A $40 TRILLION DEBT.
[02:52:01] WE DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THE
[02:52:02] DEFICIT AT THIS POINT.
[02:52:06] NO, WE SHOULD NOT BE GIVING THIS
[02:52:09] POTUS ANY NOTICE OR REWARD FOR
[02:52:15] HIS ACTIONS AS HIS LEADERSHIP
[02:52:20] HAS LED US.
[02:52:22] HOST: MONTANA, INDEPENDENT LINE.
[02:52:27] CALLER: THANKS. THIS IS JUST AN IDEA.
[02:52:31] 78,000 WHEN -- WINDMILLS
[02:52:36] IN AMERICA RIGHT NOW.
[02:52:38] ELECTRICITY FROM THAT IS AROUND 600% MORE THAN THE TYPICAL
[02:52:41] ELECTRICITY MADE THROUGH NATURAL
[02:52:45] GAS.
[02:52:48] WHAT I WAS SAYING IS, IN EUROPE
[02:52:51] THEY HAVE SO MANY WINDMILLS THEY ARE FIGHTING OVER THE WIND.
[02:52:55] THEY ARE SAYING SOME WINDMILLS
[02:52:58] ARE IN THE WAY.
[02:52:59] IF YOU PUT THESE WINDMILLS UP
[02:53:03] YOU NEED WIND TO COOL THE EARTH. NOW YOU'RE PUTTING ALL THESE
[02:53:06] WINDMILLS UP AND THAT WILL SLOW
[02:53:09] THE COOLING OF THE EARTH.
[02:53:11] WHETHER I AM RIGHT OR WRONG, IT
[02:53:13] IS JUST AN IDEA I THOUGHT.
[02:53:16] THERE ARE 78 THOUSAND WINDMILLS.
[02:53:19] THE TRUCKS HAVE TO VISIT EACH ONE AND GO UP AND GREASE THEM.
[02:53:24] IT SEEMS IT COULD BE NOT THE THING TO DO WITH THE WINDMILLS.
[02:53:27] HOST: THAT IS DANIEL IN MONTANA.
[02:53:32] THE WASHINGTON POST REPORTING THE FIRST DEPORTATION FLIGHT TO
[02:53:35] HAITI SINCE THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION ENDED HUMANITARIAN PROTECTIONS FOR
[02:53:38] 350,000 PEOPLE LIVING IN THE U.S. LANDED THURSDAY IN THE
[02:53:42] CARIBBEAN NATION. ACTIVISTS SAY IMMIGRATION
[02:53:45] ARRESTS ARE BEGINNING TO RAMP UP. THE FLIGHT CARRYING 100 70
[02:53:49] PEOPLE RANGING IN AGE FROM 19 TO 71 LANDED IN K PATIENT ON THE
[02:53:53] NORTHERN COAST OF HAITI. COMMERCIAL FLIGHTS HAVE BLOCKED LANDING IN THE CARIBBEAN
[02:53:57] NATION'S PRIMARY AIRPORT IN THE CAPITAL PORT-AU-PRINCE DUE TO
[02:54:01] GANG ACTIVITY AND REPORTS OF AIRCRAFT BEING STRUCK BY GUNFIRE.
[02:54:04] THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN SENDING DEPORTEES BACK TO HAITI
[02:54:08] ON MONTHLY FLIGHTS BUT THERE'S THESE REMOVAL WAS AMONG THE LARGEST COMMUNITY LEADER SAY
[02:54:11] THEY'VE SEEN DURING THE SECOND TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.
[02:54:15] LET'S GO TO PATTY ON THE DEMOCRATS LINE IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
[02:54:22] PATTY IN SOUTH CAROLINA?
[02:54:26] ONE MORE TIME FOR PATTY.
[02:54:31] LET'S TRY ROGER. ROGER IN CAPE MAY, NEW JERSEY.
[02:54:36] CALLER: HELLO?
[02:54:38] HOST: IS THIS PATTY OR ROGER?
[02:54:42] CALLER: PATTY.
[02:54:45] I JUST WANTED TO MAKE AN
[02:54:47] OPINION, ASK ABOUT SOMETHING. EARLIER ON PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS
[02:54:51] TALKING ABOUT ADDING TARIFFS -- RAISING THE TARIFFS TO CANADA
[02:54:54] BECAUSE OF THE FIRES UP THERE, BECAUSE OF THE AIR QUALITY.
[02:54:58] AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW
[02:55:01] WHEN ALL THIS CAME UP ABOUT THAT, I THOUGHT, HOW ARE YOU
[02:55:05] GOING TO DO TARIFFS BECAUSE OF THE FIRES?
[02:55:07] THEY CAN'T HELP ABOUT THE FIRES. ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW THEY TALK
[02:55:10] ABOUT MAKING A DEAL WITH CANADA, WHICH I READ THIS MORNING DID
[02:55:13] NOT GO THROUGH IN TARIFFS ARE GOING UP.
[02:55:17] I SAID, HOW CAN YOU MAKE A DEAL ABOUT WILDFIRES?
[02:55:21] THAT JUST DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. TO ME I THINK IS TRYING TO OPEN
[02:55:24] THAT LINE BACK UP AND EVERYTHING.
[02:55:27] TO ME, THAT IS TOTALLY NOT TRUTHFUL. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING ABOUT IT
[02:55:31] BECAUSE IT WAS ALL ABOUT THE FIRES OUT THERE AND TARIFFS AND
[02:55:34] NOW IT IS MAKING A DEAL. YOU JUST CAN'T MAKE A DEAL ABOUT
[02:55:38] FIRES. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS. HOST: PATTY IN SOUTH CAROLINA ON
[02:55:42] THE DEMOCRATS LINE. THIS IS OPEN FORUM. YOU HAVE A FEW MINUTES.
[02:55:47] IF YOU WANT TO.
[02:55:48] (202) 748-8001 FOR REPUBLICANS. (202) 748-8000 FOR DEMOCRATS.
[02:55:53] INDEPENDENTS (202) 748-8002. MASSACHUSETTS ON THE LINE FOR
[02:55:57] INDEPENDENTS WE WILL HEAR FROM FRANK. CALLER: HOW DO YOU DO?
[02:56:01] THERE WERE SOME IN THIS BOOK THE CITY IRAN IS NOT DOING ANYTHING. IT'S NOT DOING NOTHING.
[02:56:05] THEY JUST KILLED EIGHT SAILORS ON THE SHIP IN THE RED SEA.
[02:56:09] THERE IS SUPPLYING HAMAS AND HEZBOLLAH. THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR GAZA.
[02:56:13] THEY GAVE THEM ALL OF THE MONEY FOR THE TUNNELS AND ALL OF THOSE ARMS.
[02:56:17] THEY ARE ATTACKING SHIPS IN THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ.
[02:56:21] THEY ARE A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION. THEY ARE USING HALF OF THE
[02:56:25] CAPITAL THAT WE GAVE THEM TO ATTACK ALL OF THE SHIPS.
[02:56:29] THEY ARE TRYING TO CONTROL --
[02:56:30] THEY ALREADY CONTROL PARTS OF
[02:56:33] EUROPE AND THE U.N. BECAUSE THEY PUT ALL OF THEIR MONEY AND ALL
[02:56:36] OF THE ARAB MONEY IN THOSE EUROPEAN COUNTRIES, AND THEY GET
[02:56:40] RECOGNIZED BY THE U.N. OR THE EUROPEANS. THEY ARE PAYING THEM OFF.
[02:56:45] THAT'S PART OF THAT THAT I DON'T LIKE ABOUT.
[02:56:48] IRAN IS THE LARGEST SUPPLIER OF TERRORISM AND THE WHOLE MIDDLE EAST.
[02:56:52] AND AROUND THE WORLD, PRACTICALLY.
[02:56:58] ALL OF THESE DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS THAT ARE COMING IN
[02:57:00] FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, THE
[02:57:04] REPUBLICANS HAVE IT TO BLAME, ALL OF THE MILLIONAIRES AND
[02:57:08] BILLIONAIRES MADE ALL THEIR FORTUNES. YOU THINK THAT TRICKLE DOWN TO
[02:57:11] THE PEOPLE IN THE COMPANIES? HAVE THEY GIVEN THEM FREE HEALTH
[02:57:15] INSURANCE?
[02:57:19] MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES, DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN.
[02:57:22] HAVE THE PEOPLE WORKING FOR THEM RECEIVED ANY OF THAT MONEY?
[02:57:26] YOU CAN'T AFFORD A HOUSE, A CAR, COLLEGE.
[02:57:30] THEY TOOK THE MONEY AND ARE REINVESTING IT, BUT THEY AREN'T GETTING ANY BACK TO THE PEOPLE
[02:57:34] THAT ARE WORKING FOR THEM.
[02:57:37] HOST: ALEX IN NEW JERSEY, DEMOCRATS LINE.
[02:57:41] CALLER: ALL RIGHT. HOST: YOU'RE ON, GO AHEAD.
[02:57:45] CALLER: HOW ARE YOU DOING? HOW ARE YOU DOING?
[02:57:49] I HAVE ONE THING.
[02:57:50] YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T HEAR ANYONE
[02:57:53] ON THE PANEL ASKED.
[02:57:55] WHERE IS MITCH MCCONNELL?
[02:57:58] I KNOW HAD IT BEEN A DEMOCRAT
[02:58:01] PASSING ALL THIS TIME THE REPUBLICANS WOULD HAVE BEEN
[02:58:06] RAISING THE ROOF. I MEAN, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A
[02:58:08] FIRE ALARM FIGHT -- 10 ALARM FIRE.
[02:58:14] HOW DEMOCRATS PULLED WHAT MITCH MCCONNELL IS PULLING.
[02:58:17] IF HE IS ALIVE, SHOW PROOF OF LIFE.
[02:58:20] IF NOT -- I MEAN, LET US KNOW.
[02:58:24] LET THE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON WITH MITCH MCCONNELL.
[02:58:28] BECAUSE I CAN PROMISE YOU IF IT
[02:58:31] HAD BEEN A DEMOCRAT WE WOULD
[02:58:32] HAVE BEEN FINISHED.
[02:58:35] HOST: THIS IS FROM WLKY IN
[02:58:39] KENTUCKY SAYING A NEW MITCH MCCONNELL STATEMENT DROPPED,
[02:58:42] NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS HEALTH. GET THE SENATOR HAS BEEN MIA
[02:58:45] SINCE HIS HOSPITALIZATION IN JUNE. HE HAS PROVIDED FEW STATEMENTS
[02:58:49] ABOUT HIS HEALTH, A COUPLE OF PHOTOS.
[02:58:52] ON WEDNESDAY VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA MIDSTATE CELEBRATED THE
[02:58:55] OPENING OF AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING
[02:58:57] COMMUNITY IN MONARCH STATION IN LOUISVILLE.
[02:58:59] AS A SUPPORTER IT WOULD HAVE
[02:59:04] BEEN NORMAL FOR HIM TO ATTEND BUT THERE WAS A STATEMENT SENT
[02:59:08] ON HIS BEHALF. THAT IS THE EXTENT WHEN IT COMES
[02:59:11] TO NEWS OUT OF KENTUCKY AND NEWS ON MITCH MCCONNELL.
[02:59:15] LIKE IN CALIFORNIA ONLINE FOR INDEPENDENTS.
[02:59:18] WE HAVE A MINUTE OR SO LEFT. TO GO AHEAD. CALLER: I JUST WANTED TO
[02:59:21] PEOPLE'S ATTENTION THE TRUMP
[02:59:25] FAMILY TRYING TO TURN WORLD
[02:59:30] FINANCIAL INTO A BANK. THE WORLD LIBERTY FINANCIAL COIN
[02:59:33] IS WORTH LESS THAN SEVEN CENTS.
[02:59:38] ALSO, THE TRUMP PEOPLE THINK
[02:59:43] TRUMP IS OUT TO HELP KIDS AND STUFF, BUT HIS ADMINISTRATION
[02:59:46] JUST APPROVED THE USE OF
[02:59:49] FLAVORED VAPES AGAIN.
[02:59:52] THAT IS DIRECTLY AFFECTING KIDS.
[02:59:55] I THINK PRESIDENT TRUMP IS GETTING KICKBACKS ON ALL THESE VANITY PROJECTS.
[03:00:02] THAT'S WHY THE CONTRACTOR THAT
[03:00:03] PUT IN THE REFLECTING POOL IS
[03:00:06] NOT BEING SUED RIGHT NOW AND
[03:00:12] BEING FORCED TO REPAIR THAT. ALSO --
[03:00:15] HOST: APOLOGIZE, MIKE.
[03:00:19] WE HAVE TO LEAVE IT THERE BECAUSE THAT IS IT FOR OUR PROGRAM TODAY.
[03:00:23] NEW EDITION OF "WASHINGTON JOURNAL" COMES YOUR WAY AT 7:00
[03:00:27] A.M. TOMORROW MORNING. WE WILL SEE YOU THERE. ♪
[03:00:33] --
[03:00:39] ♪
[03:00:41] HOST: WELCOME TO CEASEFIRE,
[03:00:45] WHERE WE LOOK TO BRIDGE THE DIVIDE IN AMERICAN POLITICS.
[03:00:48] I AM DASHA BURNS AND JOINING ME
[03:00:51] FROM EITHER SIDE OF THE AISLE ARE TWO GUESTS WHO HAVE AGREED
[03:00:55] TO KEEP THE CONVERSATION CIVIL, EVEN WHEN THEY DISAGREE. JAMIE