CSPAN — Washington Journal 08292026 20260829 110000 UTC 2934 transcript segments Original Broadcaster Captioning (Enhanced) Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:01] WITH CARLO DAVID, DIRECTOR OF INTERNATIONAL POLICY AT THE [00:00:04] UNIVERSITY OF. CALGARY THEN REPRESENTED. [00:00:08] JOYCE BEATTY, A MEMBER OF THE KENNEDY BOARD OF TRUSTEES, [00:00:12] DISCUSSES EFFORTS TO ADD PRESIDENT TRUMP'S NAME TO THE [00:00:14] KENNEDY IN WASHINGTON, D.C. AND [00:00:16] LATER AGRICOLES CONGRESSIONAL [00:00:19] AND TRADE EDITOR OLIVIA BRIDGES ON THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. [00:00:23] TEMPORARY ELIE LIFTING BEEF TARIFFS IN AN EFFORT TO LOWER [00:08:13] A BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN [00:08:16] REPUBLICAN STRATEGISTS OVER WHETHER OR NOT THE TRADE WAR [00:08:19] MAKES SENSE FOR THE PRESIDENT AND HIS POLITICAL TEAM, [00:08:22] ESPECIALLY WITH HIS MIDTERM ELECTIONS PICKING UP. [00:08:26] WE HAVE REPUBLICAN STRATEGISTS [00:08:29] HERE ON CEASE-FIRE DEBATING IT. [00:08:31] HERE'S WHAT THEY HAD TO SAY. [00:08:37] >> POLITICO POINTS OUT THAT [00:08:54] SHOWS CANADIANS ACROSS THE [00:08:56] SPECTRUM ARE WILLING TO STAND UP TO THE U.S. GOVERNMENT, THE [00:09:00] OPPOSITE ISN'T TRUE IN THE UNITED STATES WHERE EVEN MANY IN [00:09:04] THE PRESIDENT'S OWN PARTY OPPOSE TRUMP'S TRADE AGENDA, [00:09:08] PARTICULARLY HIS TARIFFS ON CANADA. [00:09:09] >> I WILL SAY THIS, GOOD FOR THE [00:09:13] CANADIAN PEOPLE YOU DECIDED TO STAND UP AND DO SOMETHING BIG. [00:09:16] GREAT FOR YOU. I WILL ALSO SAY IT'S EASY TO SAY [00:09:19] THAT, UNTIL YOU'RE LIVING THE REPERCUSSIONS AND THE GOVERNMENT [00:09:23] IS SAYING THEY CANNOT SUSTAIN [00:09:26] LONG-TERM SMALLER AND MEDIUM SIZE BUSINESSES SO IT SOUNDS [00:09:29] GOOD ON THE FRONT END BUT THE REALITY IS, THEY WOULD BE [00:09:32] DECIMATED IN THIS FIGHT. IN THIS UNITED STATES WE'VE BEEN [00:09:35] LIVING THROUGH THIS FOR A WHILE. SOME REPUBLICANS DO STRONGLY [00:09:39] DISAGREE WITH THE PRESIDENT ON TARIFFS. BUT DONALD TRUMP IS TRIED AND [00:09:43] TRUE, THE MAN HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT TARIFFS AS A MEANS FOR [00:09:47] NEGOTIATIONS AND TRADE SINCE THE 1980S. THIS IS NOT A SURPRISE FOR [00:09:51] ANYBODY. I KNOW REPUBLICANS HAVE DISAGREEMENTS WITH IT BUT THE [00:09:55] CANADIANS CAN SOUND BLUSTERY. [00:09:57] THEY DO NOT HAVE THE ECONOMIC, [00:10:00] GEOPOLITICAL POWER OR THE STRENGTH AND WILL THEMSELVES TO [00:10:03] SEE THIS OUT FOR LONGER. I DON'T SEE THAT. >> THIS IS GOING TO BACKFIRE ON THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. [00:10:07] THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO CAME TO OFFICE PROMISING AN ECONOMIC [00:10:11] ROBUST PERIOD OF PROSPERITY WE [00:10:13] HAVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE. [00:10:16] PROMISED TO BRING DOWN PRICES, GET A GRIP ON INFLATION AND [00:10:20] WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY OF THOSE THINGS. [00:10:23] THINGS HAVEN'T GOTTEN BETTER FOR MOST AMERICANS SO HE CAN SAY [00:10:26] WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THINGS [00:10:28] GREAT, DO THIS, MAKE THINGS [00:10:31] BETTER BUT NOBODY HAS SEEN THE PROGRESS IN THEIR POCKETBOOK SO [00:10:34] HE HAS NO CREDIBILITY AT HOME. [00:10:36] THE THING THAT HURTS REPUBLICAN [00:10:39] CHANCES IS THE LONG-TERM ABILITY FOR THE PRESIDENT TO BE IMPACTFUL. [00:10:43] IF HE LOSES CONGRESS HE'S WEAKER, LIKE HOW DOES THAT PLAY [00:10:46] OUT. HOST: THAT WAS PART OF THE [00:10:49] DEBATE PLAYING OUT ON CEASE-FIRE [00:10:52] WHICH AFTER TODAY'S SHOW YOU'LL [00:10:54] WATCH HERE ON CSPAN, THAT WAS [00:10:56] AARON MAGUIRE AND KURT BARDELLA [00:11:01] OBVIOUSLY DISAGREEING ON THE TRADE WAR WITH THE U.S. AND [00:11:05] CANADA. LET'S GO TO YOU. [00:11:08] WE'LL START WITH WILLIAM IN OHIO ON THE INDEPENDENT LINE. [00:11:11] GOOD MORNING, WILLIAM, YOU'RE ON WITH US. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [00:11:14] I HAVE A FEW THINGS TO SAY. THE TRADE WARS ARE CRAZY. [00:11:18] THE WAR IN IRAN IS NUTS. [00:11:22] TRUMP IS JUST AN IDIOT, HE DON'T [00:11:24] KNOW WHAT HE'S DOING. [00:11:27] I THINK HE'S CAUSING CHAOS IN THE AMERICAN -- IN THE AMERICAN [00:11:30] PSYCHE RIGHT NOW. HE'S DESTROYING MY BEAUTIFUL [00:11:34] COUNTRY AND I DON'T LIKE A NEWCOMER LIKE HIM DOING THAT. [00:11:38] MY FAMILY HAS BEEN HERE FOR EIGHT GENERATIONS NOW. [00:11:42] I THINK HIS BEST BET IS GO TO [00:11:45] THE PUMPKIN PATCH AND WAIT ON [00:11:49] LINUS. ANYBODY THAT BELIEVES IN THE [00:11:53] STUFF HE BELIEVES IN IS WHACKY. [00:11:56] THE ELECTION WAS A FAIR ELECTION [00:11:59] AND JEFFREY EPSTEIN IS HIS DOWNFALL AND PEOPLE BETTER TALK [00:12:03] ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT IN THIS WORLD. [00:12:06] AND MOSTLY DOING THIS -- HE'S A [00:12:17] DIRTY OLD MAN TIME TO GET HIM OUT. [00:12:19] HOST: LET'S GO TO JOHN CALLING [00:12:24] IN. WHAT'S YOUR TOP STORY? CALLER: THE TARIFF PROBLEM -- [00:12:27] LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU SOMETHING IN THE PAST REPUBLICANS [00:12:31] ALWAYS -- PRESIDENTS ALWAYS SOLD OUT AMERICAN. [00:12:34] NIXON SOLD US TO THE CHINESE, [00:12:37] REAGAN CAME ALONG, KILLED THE [00:12:41] UNIONS, OKAY. AND EVERY TIME A REPUBLICAN GETS [00:12:43] IN THE OFFICE, INFLATION GOES UP. [00:12:46] WHEN TRUMP WAS ELECTED THE [00:12:50] SECOND TIME, PRICE OF GAS IN MY [00:12:53] AREA WENT UP 80 CENTS A GALLON AND IT'S STILL GOING UP. [00:12:56] AND THE WORST PART IS THAT I WAS GOING TO GO TO CANADA FISHING. [00:13:00] I ALWAYS DO. AND NOW I'M AFRAID TO GO THERE [00:13:04] BECAUSE I'M AFRAID THEY MIGHT [00:13:06] CLOSE THE BORDER. [00:13:09] IS THAT STUPID OR WHAT? THEY'RE THE ONLY PARTNER WE HAVE [00:13:13] IN THE WORLD THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY RELY ON. [00:13:17] OKAY. AND THE -- AND THE OTHER SUBJECT [00:13:21] WAS WHEN THEY -- WHEN WE DO [00:13:24] SOMETHING TO ANOTHER COUNTRY, [00:13:26] OKAY, IT SEEMS LIKE WE DON'T GET [00:13:30] AN ADVANTAGE. WE LOSE. [00:13:33] AND WE'RE GOING TO LOSE WITH [00:13:36] THIS DEAL HE'S PULLING WITH CANADA. [00:13:38] AND IF HE WANTS HIS NAME ON A [00:13:40] MONUMENT, HE BETTER LOOK AT HISTORY. [00:13:43] KENNEDY DID NOT PUT HIS NAME ON THAT MONUMENT. [00:13:46] LINCOLN WAS DEAD -- THEY WERE [00:13:49] ALL DEAD BEFORE THEIR NAMES WENT [00:13:50] UP ON THE MONUMENTS. [00:13:53] LINCOLN, WASHINGTON, KENNEDY AND [00:13:55] EVERYBODY ELSE WITH THEIR NAME [00:13:58] ON SOMETHING WAS DEAD WHEN IT WAS PUT THERE. [00:14:02] IF HE WANTS HIS NAME ON SOMETHING HE SHOULD DIE, GIVE US [00:14:04] A BREAK AND THEN WE'LL PUT HIS [00:14:08] NAME ON SOMETHING. HOST: JOHN, THANK YOU FOR CALLING IN. [00:14:11] LET'S GO TO NAPELES, FLORIDA. [00:14:18] GOOD MORNING, LIZ WHAT'S YOUR TOP STORY OF THE WEEK. [00:14:21] CALLER: SERIOUS DISAGREE WITH [00:14:24] WHAT MR. CARNY HAS SAID WITH [00:14:27] REGARDS TO THE TRADE RELATIONS [00:14:30] OF THE UNITED STATES. I JUST WISH WE HAD A CLIP OF ONE [00:14:33] OF THOSE BECAUSE I HEARD ONE [00:14:36] TALK ABOUT IT AND IT WAS SO REASONABLE WHAT SHE WAS SAYING [00:14:39] IN TERMS OF HOW IT WAS AFFECTING HER PROVINCE. [00:14:41] THERE WERE TWO PROVINCES, I [00:14:46] DON'T REMEMBER WHICH PROVINCE SHE WAS REPRESENTING, BUT I JUST [00:14:50] THOUGHT IT WAS A HELPFUL PRESENTATION IN TERMS OF HOW [00:14:53] OTHER PEOPLE IN CANADA FEEL [00:14:56] ABOUT THIS TRADE ISSUE. [00:14:58] THE OTHER ISSUE THAT -- I [00:15:06] UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE PULLING [00:15:07] OUT THEIR LINCOLN MANUFACTURING [00:15:11] AND BRINGING IT BACK TO THE UNITED STATES. FIRST I THOUGHT IT WAS ALL OF [00:15:15] IT. THEN I SAW SOME REFERENCE TO THE FACT IT WAS ONLY PART OF IT. [00:15:19] AND I WAS WONDERING IF CSPAN [00:15:23] COULD GIVE A LITTLE MORE DETAIL [00:15:26] IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT PARTICULAR COMPANY IS DOING RELATIVE TO [00:15:30] PRODUCTION. HOST: GOT IT. ALL RIGHT, LIZ. I WAS HAVING A LITTLE TROUBLE [00:15:34] HEARING YOU BUT I WILL LOOK UP [00:15:36] THE CHINA ASPECT THROUGHOUT THE [00:15:40] PROGRAM. YOU BROUGHT UP WHAT CANADIAN [00:15:42] LEADERS ARE BRINGING UP. [00:15:44] I JUST PULLED UP THIS PIECE FROM [00:15:48] "THE NEW YORK TIMES", THEY WERE PARTNERING WITH THEIR CANADIAN [00:15:51] COLLEAGUES REPORTING OUT THIS TRADE WAR AND WHAT THE PERSPECTIVE IS FROM CANADA. [00:15:55] I THINK THERE'S SOME INTERESTING BULLET POINTS TO GO THROUGH. [00:15:59] SAYING OUR KEY FINDINGS CORROBORATED BY OFFICIALS ON [00:16:03] BOTH SIDES OF TRADING TABLE, [00:16:05] TRADE TALKS WERE POSITIVE TILL [00:16:09] TUESDAY NIGHT, MR. CARNEY AGREED [00:16:14] TO COLLABORATE ON THE KEYSTONE [00:16:20] PIPELINE,. [00:16:21] THIS IS LAST WEEK, PUSHING FOR [00:16:24] TARIFFS ON STEEL, AUTOS, AND [00:16:27] AUTO PARTS. [00:16:29] THE U.S. INSISTED ON THE FREEDOM TO CHANGE THE TARIFF POLICY [00:16:33] WITHOUT A DISPUTE RESOLUTION MECHANISM OR WARNING. [00:16:36] IT ALSO ASKED FOR CANADA TO [00:16:39] COORDINATE WITH THE U.S. ON STEEL TARIFFS THAT CANADA [00:16:42] ENFORCES ON OTHER TRADING PARTNERS. [00:16:46] THEY ALSO WRITE THAT MUCH HAS BEEN MADE OF THE FRENCH LANGUAGE [00:16:50] ISSUE AS A DIVIDING LINE IN THE TALKS. OUR REPORTING SHOWS THAT THE [00:16:54] U.S. SIDE DID ADVANCE A PLAN FOR [00:16:58] CANADA TO AMEND OR APPEAL LAWS [00:17:01] ASKING STREAMING PLATFORMS TO [00:17:05] SURFACE IT MORE PROMINENTLY. [00:17:08] THAT'S REPORTING FROM "THE NEW [00:17:11] YORK TIMES", U.S. REPORTERS HERE AND TEAMS IN CANADA. [00:17:15] LET'S CONTINUE TAKING CALLS. YOU CAN GO BEYOND THIS TOPIC IF [00:17:19] YOU WANTED OR IF THIS MATTERS MOST GIVE US YOUR THOUGHTS. [00:17:22] LET'S GO TO MASSACHUSETTS, JOE IS ON THE DEMOCRATIC LINE. [00:17:26] WHAT'S YOUR TOP STORY? [00:17:28] CALLER: I LIKE TO WORK ON MY SIDE. [00:17:30] AND KURT BARDELLA IS NOT A [00:17:33] REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST. HE'S A DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST. [00:17:37] MY SECOND THING IS LINDSEY [00:17:41] CLANCY SAID A MALE VOICE TOLD HER TO KILL HER CHILD. [00:17:44] SUSAN COLLINS NEVER MISSED A [00:17:48] VOTE IN MAINE AND AS A DEMOCRAT [00:17:50] HOW CAN WE PROMOTE FIRST GRAHAM [00:17:53] PLATNER AND NOW A CANDIDATE WHO [00:17:58] HAS TWO KIDS WITH THEIR COUSINS, THAT'S SICK WHO DOES THAT. [00:18:02] WE HEAR ABOUT ALL THESE SOURCES [00:18:04] THAT WANT TO TELL US -- YOU [00:18:07] KNOW, WHISTLE BLOWERS WE DIDN'T [00:18:09] WANT TO LISTEN ABOUT BIDEN AND [00:18:14] YOU USE THE NAME ANONYMOUS. DO WE HAVE ANY ACTUAL PEOPLE. [00:18:18] BECAUSE WE HAD ACTUAL WHISTLE [00:18:21] BLOWERS ON THE BIDE ENFAMILY AND [00:18:23] DEMOCRATS AND WE WOULD IGNORE THEM. [00:18:27] HOW MANY TIMES CAN THEY SAY THE BORDER CAN'T BE CLOSED WE NEED [00:18:30] TO DO SOMETHING AND WATCH THEM CLOSE IT. FOR FOUR YEARS THEY LIED TO US [00:18:34] AND LET MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL [00:18:37] ALIENS NOW OUR STATE IS WILLING TO LET ABORTION GO TO NINE [00:18:41] MONTHS ALL THE WAY TILL LABOR STARTS. [00:18:45] THEY JUST SIGNED A BILL AND WANT [00:18:47] TO TALK ABOUT PROTECTING KIDS. [00:18:49] THEY NEED TO GET THE LINDSEY [00:18:51] CLANCY AND PUT HER AWAY UNLESS WE'RE EXTENDING ABORTION TO [00:18:55] EIGHT YEARS, FIVE YEARS, FOR HER KIDS. [00:18:58] A MALE VOICE TOLD HER, HOW DID SHE KNOW IT WAS A MALE VOICE. [00:19:02] IT'S A BIG LIE. HOST: YOU TOUCHED ON A LOT [00:19:05] THERE, ONE THING A QUICK FACT [00:19:09] CHECK. [00:19:09] YOU TALKED ABOUT CURT BARDELLA, [00:19:14] HE WAS KILLED AS A REPUBLICAN [00:19:17] STRATEGIST, BECAUSE HE IS, BUT HE'S BEEN AGAINST TRUMP. [00:19:21] HE SERVED AS A GOP CONGRESSIONAL [00:19:23] STAFFER AND A SPOKESMAN FOR [00:19:27] "BREITBART" NEWS, SO I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. THAT'S WHY THERE WERE TWO [00:19:31] REPUBLICAN STRATEGISTS BUT ON OPPOSING SIDES FOR THE PROGRAM. [00:19:34] WE'LL PLAY THAT FULL EPISODE OF [00:19:38] CEASE-FIRE AT 10:00. [00:19:40] THAT LINDSEY CLANCY TRIAL [00:19:43] GETTING A LOT OF ATTENTION, ESPECIALLY UP IN MANY MASSACHUSETTS. [00:19:46] LET'S GO TO THOMAS IN DAYTONA [00:19:50] BEACH, FLORIDA. [00:19:51] WHAT'S YOUR TOP STORY? [00:19:55] ARE YOU ON WITH US, THOMAS? [00:19:58] ALL RIGHT. LET'S TRY ANOTHER FLORIDA CALLER. [00:20:02] PAUL IS CALLING IN MANY FROM [00:20:05] WINTER GARDEN, FLORIDA ON THE REPUBLICAN LINE. [00:20:07] GOOD MORNING YOU'RE ON WITH US. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [00:20:10] THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT INFLATION [00:20:13] BECAUSE YOU HAD A CALLER SAY [00:20:17] INFLATION GOES WAY UP EVERY TIME WE HAVE A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT. [00:20:20] I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE'S GETTING [00:20:21] HIS FACTS BUT I GOT MY LARGEST [00:20:25] INCREASE IN MY SOCIAL SECURITY, [00:20:28] 8% INCREASE BECAUSE OF JOE BIDEN. ISN'T HE A DEMOCRAT. [00:20:31] LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED TO INFLATION. ALL THESE AMERICANS THAT ARE [00:20:35] COMPLAINING ABOUT CANADA, WHAT WE'RE DOING TO CANADA, POOR [00:20:39] CANADA, PACK YOUR BAGS AND MOVE TO CANADA IF THAT'S HOW YOU FEEL. [00:20:43] YOU KNOW WHAT, THEY'VE GOT FREE INSURANCE. [00:20:46] YEAH, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO WAIT A [00:20:48] YEAR AND A HALF TO GET A HEART [00:20:52] SURGERY. SO YOU KNOW WHAT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THESE TARIFFS [00:20:56] WORK. IT'S HORRIBLE FOR AMERICA TO PUT [00:20:58] TARIFFS ON OTHER COUNTRIES' GOODS COMING IN BUT OTHER [00:21:02] COUNTRIES DO IT TO US AND THAT'S JUST FINE. [00:21:05] IT SHOULDN'T WORK THAT WAY. [00:21:07] IF YOU WANT FREE TRADE, THEN [00:21:10] TAKE OFF ALL TARIFFS. BUT OTHERWISE IF OTHER COUNTRIES [00:21:12] ARE GOING TO PUT TARIFFS ON OUR [00:21:15] GOODS OR THEIR GOODS, OUR GOODS [00:21:17] GOING INTO THEIR COUNTRY, THEN [00:21:20] VICE VERSA WE SHOULD BE TARIFFING THEIR GOODS. [00:21:23] THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. HOST: ON THE TOPIC OF INFLATION, A LOT OF HEADLINES [00:21:27] SURFACED YESTERDAY BECAUSE THE NEW CHAIRMAN OF THE FEDERAL [00:21:31] RESERVE KEVIN WARSH GAVE HIS [00:21:36] FIRST BIG SPEECH SINCE TAKING [00:21:39] THE CHAIR. [00:21:41] WARSH SAYS THE FED MAY NOT BE [00:21:43] DONE FIGHTING INFLATION WITH THE SUBHEADLINE WE MUST BE CONFIDENT [00:21:47] THAT UNDERLYING INFLATION IS MOVING TO OUR OBJECTIVE THE FED [00:21:50] CHAIR SAID FRIDAY IN A HEAVILY ANTICIPATED DEBUT SPEECH. [00:21:54] WE'LL PLAY A CLIP OF THAT SPEECH. [00:21:58] PREVIOUS FED CHAIRS HAVE USED THIS EVENT IN JACKSON HOLE TO [00:22:01] INDICATE WHETHER OR NOT THE FEDERAL RESERVE WOULD RAISE [00:22:04] INTEREST RATES IN THE COMING MONTHS. [00:22:07] WARSH DID NOT DO THAT BUT LEFT [00:22:09] THE DOOR OPEN WHILE COMPLIMENTING THE STRENGTH OF THE ECONOMY. [00:22:13] >> THE RECENT RISE IN OVERALL COMMODITY PRICES ALSO BEARS [00:22:17] WATCHING. WHAT WHAT WE NEED TO JUDGE IS [00:22:20] WHETHER THE TRENDS WE SEE [00:22:23] INDICATE UPSIDE INFLATION RISKS. [00:22:25] NOW IT MATTERS TOO WHETHER THE [00:22:27] INFLATION READINGS OF THE PAST [00:22:30] FIVE YEARS HAVE SEEPED INTO EXPECTATIONS. [00:22:32] THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT MEASURES [00:22:35] OF INFLATION EXPECTATIONS IN THE [00:22:37] MEDIUM TERM BY AND LARGE LOOK [00:22:41] STABLE. AND INFLATION COMPENSATION [00:22:43] MEASURES FROM THE SWAPS MARKET [00:22:45] SEND A STRONG AND SIMILAR MESSAGE. [00:22:49] ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF RECENT DEVELOPMENTS. [00:22:52] IT'S A CREDIT TO THE FED AS AN [00:22:56] INSTITUTION, CONSISTENT WITH THE [00:22:57] BEST OF THE FED'S TRADITIONS [00:23:00] THAT MARKET PRICES SHOW CONFIDENCE THAT WE WILL DELIVER [00:23:04] PRICE STABILITY. AND I CAN ASSURE YOU, THEY'RE [00:23:07] RIGHT. THE THING ABOUT MARKET MEASURES [00:23:10] OF INFLATION EXPECTATIONS IN [00:23:13] ECONOMIC HISTORY, EVEN THOUGH [00:23:15] SOME ECONOMIC HISTORIANS IN THE [00:23:17] AUDIENCE, THEY ALL TEND TO LOOK [00:23:20] STRONG AND DURABLE UNTIL THEY DON'T. THESE EXPECTATIONS ARE NOT [00:23:24] PUSHED AROUND EASILY AND RIGHT [00:23:26] NOW THEY ARE VERY WELL ANCHORED. BUT THEY MUST BE CLOSELY MINDED [00:23:30] AND IT'S THE FED'S JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INFLATION [00:23:34] EXPECTATIONS DO NOT GET UNANCHORED. [00:23:37] NOW, THERE IS ONE SIGNAL NOBODY CAN MISS. [00:23:41] RESPONSIBILITY FOR 65 MONTHS OF [00:23:44] SUSTAINED ELEVATED INFLATION [00:23:46] SITS SQUARELY WITH THE CENTRAL BANK AND THAT'S WHERE IT [00:23:50] BELONGS. SO HERE IS MY STANDARD. [00:23:53] WE MUST BE CONFIDENT THAT [00:23:55] UNDERLYING INFLATION IS MOVING TO OUR OBJECTIVE. [00:23:59] CLEARLY AND AT SUFFICIENT SPEED. [00:24:02] OTHERWISE, WE HAVE WORK TO DO. THAT'S OUR JOB. [00:24:06] THAT'S OUR MANDATE AND THAT'S OUR CHARGE TO KEEP. [00:24:10] HOST: THAT WAS THE NEW FEDERAL [00:24:12] RESERVE CHAIR, KEVIN WARSH SPEAKING AT THE KANSAS CITY [00:24:16] FEDERAL RESERVE'S EVENT IN [00:24:19] JACKSON, WYOMING WHERE TOP ECONOMISTS WERE GATHERING TO [00:24:23] TALK ABOUT THE STATE OF THE COMMITTEE. "THE WASHINGTON JOURNAL" GOES ON [00:24:26] TO SAY TRADERS RAISED THE RATE [00:24:31] INCREASE TO 35% ON THURSDAY. IN HIS SPEECH WARSH STOPPED [00:24:34] SHORT OF THAT OFFERING NO HINT OF THE FED'S NEXT MOVE IN [00:24:38] KEEPING WITH THE APPROACH HOW THE CENTRAL BANK SHOULD [00:24:41] COMMUNICATE LESS SAYING I STAND HERE TODAY COMMITTED TO A [00:24:45] DISCIPLINE NOT A DECISION. SO THAT'S ANOTHER BIG STORY. [00:24:49] SEVERAL FOLKS WRITING IN WITH [00:24:50] THEIR TOP STORIES OF THE WEEK. [00:24:53] KEVIN SAYS MY TOP STORY IS THE [00:24:55] KENNEDY CENTER MEMORIAL. [00:24:58] I HOPE AMERICA DOESN'T LET TRUMP DESTROY THE KENNEDY CENTER [00:25:02] MEMORIAL. [00:25:05] PRESIDENT KENNEDY FOUGHT IN THE WAR AND SAVED AMERICA. [00:25:09] THE KENNEDY FAMILY SHOWS THE [00:25:11] BEST OF WHAT AMERICA IS MADE OF. [00:25:14] I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE KENNEDY FAMILY FOR THE THE CAMELOT YEARS. [00:25:18] IN THE NEXT HOUR OR HOUR AND A [00:25:19] HALF WE'LL TALK TO JOYCE BEATTY, [00:25:23] THE OHIO DEMOCRAT LEADING THE [00:25:26] LEGAL CHALLENGES AGAINST THE [00:25:29] CHANGES TO THE KENNEDY CENTER PRESIDENT TRUMP IS TRYING TO MAKE. [00:25:33] THERE WAS A HEARING ABOUT THAT ON THURSDAY. [00:25:36] WE'LL SPEAK WITH JOYCE BAITTY. [00:25:41] ALLEN SAYS HIS TOP STORY IS THE [00:25:44] DEBT REACHING 40 MILLION DOLLAR. [00:25:49] SIMPLE MATH SHOWS IT WILL TAKE BOTH SPENDING CUTS AND INCREASED [00:25:52] TAXES TO GET IT UNDER CONTROL. [00:25:56] SUE FROM NEW JERSEY SAYS HER TOP STORIES ARE TRADE WARS AND TRADE AGREEMENTS. [00:26:00] WE MAKE THESE TRADE AGREEMENTS [00:26:01] DON'T WE WE'RE THERE AT THE BARGAINING TABLE. [00:26:05] WHY ARE WE NOT HAPPY WITH THE END RESULT? I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THE [00:26:09] NEED FOR HIGH TARIFFS. WHY DON'T WE MAKE BETTER DEALS [00:26:12] IN THE FIRST PLACE. [00:26:14] YOU CAN WEIGH IN ON FACEBOOK OR [00:26:19] TEXT. THERE HAVE BEEN CALLERS ON THE LINE, LET'S GET TO THEM. [00:26:22] TIM ON THE DEMOCRATIC LINE FROM [00:26:27] ALABAMA. HAPPY START TO COLLEGE FOOTBALL [00:26:29] SEASON WHAT'S YOUR TOP STORY? [00:26:32] CALLER: THERE'S TWO, ONE I LIKE [00:26:34] TO TALK ABOUT THE KENNEDY CENTER. [00:26:36] JOHN F. KENNEDY WAS A WAR HERO. [00:26:41] IF THEY GO BACK AND LOOK AT [00:26:43] HISTORY, YOU SEE PT 109. [00:26:45] HE WAS A WAR HERO IN WORLD WAR II. [00:26:49] PLUS HIS FATHER JOSEPH F. [00:26:52] KENNEDY, HE SERVED IN -- HE WAS A WAR HERO TOO. [00:26:56] HE SERVED ON A TOP SECRET [00:26:58] MISSION BACK IN 1943. [00:27:01] SO THE FAMILY HAS A HISTORY OF [00:27:04] SERVING THIS COUNTRY. [00:27:06] UNLIKE DONALD F. TRUMP WHO SEEK [00:27:12] TO EVADE VIETNAM BY SOME FALSE [00:27:17] CLAIMS OF A HEEL SPUR THAT NEVER HAPPENED. [00:27:19] HE CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH FOOT IT WAS ON, BY THE WAY. [00:27:23] THE OTHER THING I LIKE TO TALK [00:27:24] ABOUT IS THE REPUBLICANS TALKING [00:27:27] ABOUT SOCIALISM AND USING THE [00:27:30] WORD COMMUNISM. [00:27:34] WELL, WHAT WOULD THE PEOPLE OF [00:27:38] THIS COUNTRY PREFER. [00:27:39] MASKED MEN GOING AROUND [00:27:43] TERRORIZING, LOCKING UP AND [00:27:44] SHOOTING AND ARRESTING AMERICAN [00:27:48] CITIZENS? THAT'S NOT SOCIALISM. THAT'S COMMUNISM AND THAT COMES [00:27:52] FROM THE DAYS OF HITLER AND ALSO [00:27:57] BUILDING THESE DETENTION CENTERS [00:27:59] WHICH ARE ANALOGOUS TO CONCENTRATION CAMPS. [00:28:03] SO IF THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT COMMUNIST OR SOCIALISM. [00:28:07] LOOK AT WHAT THE REPUBLICANS ARE [00:28:09] SUPPORTING AND TAKING AWAY THE [00:28:11] VOTING RIGHTS OF THESE -- OF OUR [00:28:15] CITIZENS. AND I THINK THE DEMOCRATS SHOULD [00:28:17] POINT THOSE THINGS OUT. [00:28:21] THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HOST: THANK YOU, TIM. APPRECIATE YOU CALLING IN. [00:28:23] I PULLED UP, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE KENNEDY CENTER WE'LL TALK [00:28:27] ABOUT IT LATER WHEN WE INTERVIEW [00:28:31] CONGRESSWOMAN BEATTY, THE DOJ [00:28:33] SAYS NO ACTION TO AD TRUMP'S [00:28:37] NAME TO THE KENNEDY CENTER BEFORE OCTOBER. WRITING THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT [00:28:40] NOTIFIED A JUDGE THURSDAY THAT THE KENNEDY CENTER WILL DELAY [00:28:43] IMPLEMENTATION OF THE BOARD'S RESOLUTION HONORING PRESIDENT [00:28:46] TRUMP FOR MORE THAN A MONTH. IN A FILING THE DOJ SAID THE [00:28:49] EFFORT TO ADD TRUMP'S NAME TO [00:28:51] THE FACADE AND PLAZA WILL NOT BE [00:28:56] EFFECTUATED BEFORE OCTOBER 8TH. THE FILING CAME BEFORE A [00:28:58] TWO-HOUR HEARING ON THURSDAY, [00:29:05] DURING WHICH THE CENTER URGED [00:29:06] HIM TO DELAY HIS PLANS. [00:29:10] THAT STORY GETTING A LOT OF ATTENTION HERE IN D.C.. [00:29:12] I SPENT TIME ON THURSDAY COVERING THINGS AS THAT COURT [00:29:16] HEARING PLAYED OUT. MET A WOMAN PROTESTING, SHE [00:29:20] SHOWED UP EVERY DAY SINCE APRIL BECAUSE SHE WORKED AT THE [00:29:22] KENNEDY CENTER DECADES AGO AND FELT VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THIS [00:29:26] KAUS. IT'S SOMETHING PEOPLE HERE LOCALLY ARE TALKING ABOUT. [00:29:29] LET'S GO OUT TO DICKINSON, NORTH [00:29:33] DAKOTA JOHN IS CALLING IN FROM THE INDEPENDENT LINE. [00:29:36] GOOD MORNING, WHAT'S YOUR TOP STORY? [00:29:39] CALLER: GOOD MORNING, SIR. [00:29:42] I WAS TURNING ON MY -- I THINK [00:29:48] MY TOP NEWS STORY IS THE TRADE WAR BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA. [00:29:52] SEE, WE'RE A BORDER STATE OUT HERE. [00:29:56] WE GET -- USED TO GET TONS OF [00:29:57] PEOPLE IN HERE FROM CANADA TO [00:30:02] BUY OUR PRODUCTS. [00:30:04] THEY'RE NOT COMING DOWN HERE ANYMORE. [00:30:08] THEY SPEND THEIR MONEY UP THERE. [00:30:12] AND AS A RESULT, I THINK WE [00:30:16] MIGHT BE LOSING HUNDREDS OF [00:30:18] THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS A YEAR ON THIS DEAL. [00:30:21] I MYSELF USED TO GO UP TO [00:30:29] CANADA, LAKE LOUISE AREA, THE [00:30:32] NATIONAL PARK, AND VACATION. [00:30:35] AND LIKE THE PREVIOUS CALLER [00:30:40] SAID, I'M SCARED TO GO UP THERE ANYMORE, OR CROSS THE BORDER [00:30:43] BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, THEY DO NOT LIKE US. [00:30:46] THEY DON'T WANT US UP THERE [00:30:49] RIGHT NOW APPARENTLY. [00:30:53] THEY'RE NOT COMING DOWN HERE, SO IT'S A BAD DEAL. [00:30:56] A REALLY BAD DEAL, IF YOU ASK [00:30:59] ME. [00:31:01] I'VE FOLLOWED THIS TRUMP GUY [00:31:04] SINCE SOME OF THESE -- USED TO [00:31:08] LIVE IN MANHATTAN. [00:31:10] AND PEOPLE HANG OUT AROUND [00:31:13] HIM -- SEEMS TO ME LIKE THEY END [00:31:19] UP BROKE, IN PRISON OR DEAD. [00:31:25] TAKE THAT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. [00:31:27] THANKS FOR LISTENING TO ME. GOOD MORNING. HOST: THANK YOU, JOHN. [00:31:30] INTERESTING PERSPECTIVE FROM A BORDER STATE AS THE TRADE WAR PLAYS OUT. [00:31:34] LET'S GO OVER TO ILLINOIS, SCOTT [00:31:37] IS CALLING IN ON THE REPUBLICAN LINE. [00:31:40] GOOD MORNING, SCOTT WHAT'S YOUR TOP STORY OF THE WEEK? [00:31:44] CALLER: GOOD MORNING AMERICA AND FELLOW PATRIOTS. [00:31:48] I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOCIAL SECURITY A LITTLE BIT. I THINK I GOT A LITTLE FIX HERE. [00:31:51] I WISH ALL RECIPIENTS OF SOCIAL [00:31:54] SECURITY WOULD CONTACT THEIR CONGRESSMAN OR WHOEVER AND TALK [00:31:57] TO THEM ABOUT MY THEORY. [00:32:00] WHEN WE PAID SOCIAL SECURITY WE [00:32:02] WORKED OUR WHOLE LIFE I'M AN OLD VIETNAM VETERAN. [00:32:05] WE MADE 4, 5, 7 BUCKS AN HOUR [00:32:09] AND PAID $2,025 A -- 20 OR 25 [00:32:18] BUCKS IN SOCIAL SECURITY. THE KIDS TODAY MAKE MORE AND PAY [00:32:21] MORE, THAT'S FINE. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE [00:32:24] ELDERLY PEOPLE, I TALK TO A LOT [00:32:26] OF ELDERLY PEOPLE IN MY AGE, [00:32:29] GETTING 750 OR 900 A MONTH. [00:32:31] I DID NOT SIT AT A DESK FOR 40 [00:32:33] YEARS AND GET 300 POUNDS, MAKE [00:32:38] 38,400 A MONTH. I WANT TO SAY, IT'S SIMPLE MATH. [00:32:41] WHEN THEY FIGURE OUT THE RECIPIENTS OF SOCIAL SECURITY AND IF THEY'RE GOING TO RAISE [00:32:45] THE COST OF LIVING INCREASE SAY 2.5%, LIKE LAST YEAR. [00:32:49] THE GUY AT 3,800 DOESN'T NEED [00:32:54] 2.5%. IT'S THE LOWER INDIVIDUALS. [00:32:58] IF THEY DO SIMPLE MATH AND FIGURE OUT THE GROSS AND HAVE A [00:33:02] CUTOFF POINT AT 25 OR 2,700 SURE [00:33:06] IT SEEMS I'M NOT GETTING A RAISE BUT IF YOU HELP THE ELDERLY [00:33:10] PEOPLE, MOSTLY WOMEN BECAUSE THE HUSBANDS ARE DEAD. TALK TO THEM IN THE MARKET, [00:33:13] THEY'RE MAKING 700, 800 AND IT'S HARD FOR US. [00:33:16] IF THEY GIVE US -- SAY IT GOES UP TO 3%. [00:33:20] IF THEY GIVE US 6%, AND THEN [00:33:23] GIVE THE CUTOFF AT 2500, 1% [00:33:27] THEY'RE STILL GETTING SOMETHING [00:33:28] BUT THEY HELP OUT THE YOUNGER ELDERLY. [00:33:32] IF THERE'S EXTRA THEY CAN PUT IT INTO THE ACCOUNT FOR FUTURE [00:33:36] SOCIAL SECURITY PAYMENTS. IT'S SIMPLE MATH. [00:33:39] PLEASE AMERICA TALK TO YOUR CONGRESSMAN AND SEE IF YOU CAN [00:33:43] GET IT ON THE DOCKET. IT'S SIMPLE MATH. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR. [00:33:47] HOST: STAY ON THE LINE FOR A SECOND. I WANT TO ASK YOU A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION. [00:33:51] BECAUSE NPR HAS THIS STORY OUT [00:33:55] JUST YESTERDAY, THE SOCIAL SECURITY TRUST FUND IS RUNNING [00:33:57] OUT YET IT'S NOT A TOP CAMPAIGN ISSUE. THEY WRITE CONGRESS HAS SIX [00:34:01] YEARS TO SHORE UP THE SOCIAL SECURITY TRUST FUND EXPECTED TO [00:34:04] RUN OUT OF RESERVES BY THE END [00:34:06] OF 2032 AND ACTING SOLUTION IS [00:34:08] LIABLE TO BE A POLITICAL BATTLE [00:34:10] INVOLVING CUTTING BENEFITS FOR [00:34:12] SOME AMERICANS OR RAISING TAXES [00:34:15] ON HIGHER EARNERS OR BOTH. [00:34:20] WRITING ELIZABETH WARREN AND [00:34:25] BERNIE MARINO PROPOSED RAISING [00:34:27] THE PAYROLL TAX FOR SOME AMERICANS. [00:34:31] BUT THAT WAS BANNED BY CONSERVATIVE GROUPS. [00:34:34] I'M CURIOUS IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR [00:34:36] WITH THAT PROPOSAL AND WHAT YOU [00:34:39] THINK ABOUT IT, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT WAS BIPARTISAN? [00:34:42] CALLER: IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THEY JUST WANT TO TAX MORE AND [00:34:46] TAKE MORE OUT OF THE WORKING CLASS RIGHT NOW. [00:34:48] NOW, WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE SOLVENT. [00:34:52] I TALK TO 25-YEAR-OLD KIDS ARE THEY SOLVENT AT 65? [00:34:55] I THINK THEY'LL RAISE IT TO 70 [00:34:58] BECAUSE WE ARE LIVING LONGER, [00:35:01] EVEN THOUGH I GOT MEDICAL [00:35:03] PROBLEMS, THE OLD VIETNAM CRAP IS GETTING ME. [00:35:06] THERE'S GOING TO BE FIXES BUT GOING BACK TO WHAT I SAID. [00:35:09] MAYBE A PERSON AT 3800 -- I [00:35:13] DON'T KNOW THE MAXIMUM, MAYBE IT'S 4,000. I DON'T KNOW. BUT THEY DON'T NEED THAT. [00:35:17] IF THEY HAD SAVED LIKE WE WERE TAUGHT TO SAVE AS YOUNG CHILDREN. [00:35:20] WE HAD SAVINGS ACCOUNTS IN [00:35:24] ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. THE TEACHER WOULD CHECK YOUR [00:35:26] BOOK, A QUARTER AHEAD, YOU GOT A [00:35:29] GOLD STAR, IT FELT GOOD. [00:35:32] IF YOU SPENT MONEY YOU DIDN'T GET A GOLD STAR, I BETTER SAVE MONEY. [00:35:36] THAT'S HOW WE WERE TAUGHT. [00:35:38] I WAS FIVE GREAT GRANDCHILDREN [00:35:45] AND I DON'T HEAR THEIR MOTHER TALKING TO SAVE. [00:35:48] WE HAD ONE COME AND WE GAVE HIM [00:35:51] $500 FOR HIS COLLEGE. THAT'S GOOD WE DON'T MIND [00:35:55] HELPING PEOPLE OUT. IT COMES DOWN TO THE MATH. [00:35:58] I SAID THIS MAYBE FOUR YEARS AGO AND NEVER HEARD ANYTHING SINCE. [00:36:02] MAYBE WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TALKING WITH THEIR SIGNATURES. [00:36:04] YOU CAN CALL THEM ON THE PHONE, GO VISIT THEM. [00:36:07] AND JUST TALK TO THEM, SAY LISTEN. THIS IS SIMPLE MATH. [00:36:11] MAYBE THIS GUY HAS GOT AN IDEA. [00:36:14] IT'S -- MAYBE IT'S MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, THAT'S FINE. [00:36:17] MAYBE IT'S 1,000, I DON'T CARE. [00:36:20] JUST PUT A POSITIVE INTO THE TRUST FUND FOR THE FUTURE OF AMERICA. [00:36:24] OKAY. HOST: ALL RIGHT, SCOTT. THANKS FOR THE DIALOGUE. [00:36:27] THAT TICKER IS TICKING FOR SOCIAL SECURITY. [00:36:31] THE TRUST FUND SET TO RUN OUT OF [00:36:33] RESERVES BY THE END OF 2032. INTERESTING YOU BRING THAT UP [00:36:37] AND IT'S NOT TALKED ABOUT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL. [00:36:40] TALKING ABOUT TOP STORIES OF THE [00:36:44] WEEK, ANOTHER IS THE ANNOUNCEMENT BETWEEN PRESIDENT [00:36:48] TRUMP ABOUT A DEAL WITH THE U.S. AND VENEZUELA HAVING TO DO WITH [00:36:52] OIL RESERVES. WE'LL PUT UP THIS POST. [00:36:55] HE SAID BREAKING NEWS, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA HAS ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH [00:36:59] THE COUNTRY OF VENEZUELA. THE BIGGEST OIL DEAL IN WORLD [00:37:03] HISTORY. [00:37:04] AT MY DIRECTION, MARCO RUBIO AND [00:37:08] PETE HEGSETH WORKING WITH THE INTERIM PRESIDENT OF VENEZUELA [00:37:11] AND THROUGH A PARTNERSHIP WITH PRIVATE BUSINESS HAVE SECURED [00:37:14] MAJORITY U.S. CONTROL OF MORE [00:37:16] THAN 65 BILLION BARRELS OF [00:37:19] PROVEN OIL RESERVES IN VENEZUELA [00:37:21] AT NO COST TO THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER. [00:37:25] THE PRESIDENT WRITES THIS [00:37:27] DOUBLES AMERICAN RESERVES, AND [00:37:30] WILL LOWER GAS PRICES FOR ALL [00:37:33] AMERICANS LONG INTO THE FUTURE WHILE SETTING VENEZUELA ON A [00:37:37] COURSE TOWARD GREAT SUCCESS AND PROSPERITY. [00:37:40] SAYING IT'LL STRENGTHEN THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN VENEZUELA AND THE U.S.. [00:37:43] THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS GROUND BREAKING MATTER. [00:37:47] THAT NEWS COMING OUT LAST NIGHT. A LOT OF QUESTIONS SWIRLING [00:37:50] ABOUT THE TIMETABLE FOR THIS POTENTIAL AGREEMENT. [00:37:53] VENEZUELA'S INTERIM PRESIDENT DID RELEASE A STATEMENT [00:37:56] PROMOTING IT AND CHEERING IT ON, SAYING IT WAS SOMETHING GOOD. [00:37:59] SHE'S BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION [00:38:02] SINCE HER FORMER BOSS, NICHOLAS [00:38:06] MADURO WAS CAPTURED AND PUT INTO PRISON BY THE UNITED STATES [00:38:10] EARLIER THIS YEAR. BUT THERE ARE QUESTIONS OVER THE TIMETABLE BECAUSE THIS COULD [00:38:14] TAKE YEARS TO GET INTO PLACE, MAY NOT TRIGGER IMMEDIATE GAS [00:38:17] PRICE RELIEF AND WE'RE HITTING [00:38:20] THE SIX MONTH MARK OF THE [00:38:23] U.S./IRAN WAR, GAS PRICES ARE A DOLLAR HIGHER THAN THEY WERE IN [00:38:26] FEBRUARY WHEN THE CONFLICT STARTED. IF YOU HAVE THOUGHTS ON THAT, [00:38:30] WE'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU. LET'S CONTINUE TAKING CALLS. [00:38:33] WE'LL GO TO DELAWARE NOW, CHRIS IS CALLING IN ON THE DEMOCRATIC LINE. [00:38:37] CHRIS, WHAT'S YOUR TOP STORY? [00:38:40] CALLER: TALKING ABOUT THE [00:38:43] KENNEDY CENTER AND VOTING. [00:38:46] HOST: GO FOR IT. GIVE US YOUR THOUGHTS. [00:38:50] CALLER: I FEEL LIKE KENNEDY WAS [00:38:53] A WAR HERO. [00:38:57] ALL PRESIDENT GOT NAMES ON [00:38:59] PLACES, THEY ALL DID -- I DON'T [00:39:02] UNDERSTAND THIS MAN. [00:39:04] I THINK HIS DEMENTIA IS KICKING [00:39:07] IN P WORSE FOR NOW BECAUSE HIS [00:39:09] NIECE, MARY TRUMP, SAID THAT HIS [00:39:12] FATHER HAD DEMENTIA BAD AND SAY [00:39:16] HE WAS GETTING IT TOO NOW. [00:39:18] YOU CAN TELL HE'S GETTING SOMETHING. I NEVER SEEN A PRESIDENT THAT [00:39:22] WANT TO PUT HIS NAME ON EVERYTHING. AND HE'S THE WORST PRESIDENT [00:39:25] THAT I EVER SEEN. [00:39:27] AND ALL LIKE 2024 WHEN HE WON [00:39:32] THE ELECTION, EVERYTHING WAS ALL RIGHT. [00:39:36] BUT NOW HE'S IN THE HOLE NOW AND [00:39:38] NOBODY AIN'T GONNA VOTE FOR HIM. [00:39:41] WE GOT TROUBLE WITH THE VOTE AND STUFF LIKE THAT NOW HE WANT TO [00:39:45] PRETEND. WHEN HE'S WINNING IT'S GOOD BUT [00:39:48] WHEN HE'S LOSING EVERYTHING IS WRONG. [00:39:51] HE'S THE ONLY PRESIDENT THAT [00:39:53] BEEN IN THERE THAT ALWAYS COME [00:39:55] UP WITH A VOTE AND THERE'S [00:39:57] SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE VOTING. [00:40:01] AND GOVERNOR CHRISTIE -- CHRIS [00:40:04] CHRISTIE FROM JERSEY SAID HE [00:40:07] KNOW HE LOST THE ELECTION WITH [00:40:10] BIDEN IN 2020, BECAUSE HE SAID IT. [00:40:14] TOLD HIM WHEN HE WAS IN OFFICE WITH HIM. [00:40:17] HE SAID, WHAT'S HE GOING TO DO? [00:40:23] GOT TO TELL HIM HE LOST. HE SAID SINCE HE TOLD HIM THAT, [00:40:27] TRUMP NEVER SPOKE TO HIM AGAIN. HE JUST KEPT SAYING HE LOST, [00:40:31] THAT THEY WON, AND HE KNOW HE AIN'T NEVER WON. [00:40:35] HE LOST. THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY. THAT MAN, THEY NEED TO GET HIM [00:40:38] OUT OF THERE, DO SOMETHING WITH [00:40:40] HIM, PUT HIM IN A PLACE HE CAN [00:40:44] GET DEMENTIA MEDICINE AND STUFF. HOST: CHRIS, THANKS FOR CALLING [00:40:48] IN. MORE FOLKS WRITING IN WITH THEIR [00:40:51] TOP STORIES, A GUY IN OKLAHOMA [00:40:55] SAYING CANADA MAKES 60 BILLION DOLLAR OFF THE UNITED STATES [00:40:58] EVERY YEAR IN IMPOSED TARIFFS AND DEMOCRATS ARE MAD THAT TRUMP [00:41:02] WANTS FAIR TRADE. WOW. THERE'S A SUPPORTER OF THE TRADE [00:41:05] WAR. LET'S GO TO NEW YORK, ROBERT IS [00:41:09] ON THE PHONE FROM THE INDEPENDENT LINE. ROBERT YOU'RE ON WOULD YOU SAY. [00:41:13] CALLER: SO NICE TO TALK TO YOU THIS MORNING. THE LAST GUY THAT WAS JUST [00:41:16] CALLING IN, FIRST OF ALL HAS NO CLUE WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. [00:41:19] YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT HE WAS SAYING, MADE NO SENSE AT ALL, [00:41:23] SAYING THE MOST RIDICULOUS THINGS EVER. TRUMP IS ONE OF THE BEST [00:41:27] PRESIDENTS WE'VE HAD IN UNITED STATES HISTORY. [00:41:31] DONALD J. TRUMP STRUCK A DEAL WITH VENEZUELA, THAT'S UNPRECEDENTED WE'RE GOING TO [00:41:35] BENEFIT BILLIONS BARRELS OF CRUDE OIL. [00:41:39] DONALD J. TRUMP IS THE BEST PRESIDENT WE HAVE EVER HAD IN [00:41:43] THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES. HE'S A BETTER PRESIDENT -- I'VE [00:41:46] BEEN SAYING THIS, HE'S A BETTER [00:41:49] PRESIDENT THAN RONALD REAGAN. WHAT HE HAS DONE TO AMERICA. [00:41:52] DID YOU SEE HIM HANDING OUT THE [00:41:54] MEDAL OF HONOR TO THE SPACE [00:41:57] TRAVELERS, AND HE DOESN'T STOP. HE'S FIGHTING FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. [00:42:01] A MAN WORTH BILLIONS OF DOLLARS [00:42:02] DOES NOT HAVE TO DO THIS. [00:42:05] HE COULD BE ON THE GOLF COURSE ALL DAY. [00:42:08] THIS GUY IS THE BEST PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND ABOUT [00:42:12] 16, 17 YEARS AGO I MET HIM IN HIS OFFICE IN NEW YORK CITY [00:42:16] THROUGH A FRIEND ON A SPECIAL [00:42:17] DEAL WE WERE DOING WHEN "THE APPRENTICE" WAS NUMBER ONE. [00:42:21] HE WAS ALL BUSINESS. HE'S A BUSINESSMAN. THAT'S WHAT THE UNITED STATES [00:42:25] NEEDS IS A BUSINESSMAN. DONALD J. TRUMP. [00:42:27] THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THE [00:42:30] SOCIAL SECURITY SITUATION. [00:42:32] THE MOST TO DO WITH THAT IS WE SHOULD TURN AROUND LET THAT [00:42:37] MONEY PUT IN THE STOCK MARKET, [00:42:39] THE S&P 500 WHICH THE STOCK [00:42:43] MARKET HAS HAD A RECORD HISTORY, A RECORD HISTORY, EVERY DAY IT'S [00:42:46] MAKING A NEW HIGH. WHAT DOES THAT DO, EVERYBODY [00:42:49] SAYS WHAT DOES THAT DO. MOST PEOPLE HAVE A 401(k) AND [00:42:53] RETIREMENT PLAN IN THEIR BUSINESSES THEY WORK AT OR COMPANY THEY WORK AT. [00:42:56] SO THE AMOUNT OF RETURN IS [00:42:59] JUSTIN CREDIBLE. BUT DONALD J. TRUMP WILL GO DOWN [00:43:02] ONE DAY, THE LIBERALS HATE HIM, [00:43:06] LOVE DOLLY PARTON BECAUSE SHE [00:43:07] WAS PRO-GENDER AND ALL THIS [00:43:11] NONSENSE. [00:43:14] DONALD J. TRUMP WILL BE THE NUMBER ONE PRESIDENT IN HISTORY. [00:43:17] WE LOVE YOU. HOST: CAN I ASK YOU A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION? [00:43:21] MAYBE NOT, HE CLICKED OFF. FOR MORE DETAILS ABOUT THE [00:43:24] VENEZUELA DEAL I PULLED UP THIS ASSOCIATED PRESS ARTICLE TO GO THROUGH THAT. [00:43:28] THE DETAILS ARE EARLY ON. [00:43:30] BUT DELL SEE RODRIGUEZ HER [00:43:34] GOVERNMENT SAID, IT INVOLVES THE [00:43:37] DEVELOPMENT OF 17 FIELDS. IT SAID THE AGREEMENT COULD DRAW [00:43:41] 100 BILLION DOLLAR OF INVESTMENT INTO VENEZUELA'S OIL INDUSTRY [00:43:44] AND YIELD OVER 209 BILLION [00:43:45] DOLLAR IN TAXES FOR CARACAS. [00:43:49] RODRIGUEZ PREDICTED THE DEAL [00:43:53] WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE NATION'S REVIE SAL. IT ALLOWS THE U.S. TO PARTNER [00:43:57] WITH AN UNNAMED PRIVATE OPERATOR IN VENEZUELA TO CREATE A NEW [00:44:01] PRIVATE COMPANY TO TAKE HOLD OF THE RESERVES ACCORDING TO AN [00:44:05] OFFICIAL FAMILIAR WITH THE DEAL. THE OFFICIAL ADDED THAT [00:44:09] RODRIGUEZ GRANTED THE COMPANY [00:44:11] 100 YEAR RIGHTS TO DEVELOP THE OIL FIELD. [00:44:14] WE KNOW FOR MARCO RUBIO, HE'S BEEN CLOSELY INVOLVED IN ALL [00:44:18] THESE TALKS WITH VENEZUELA, WITH [00:44:21] RODRIGUEZ AS SHE'S BEEN TRYING TO PROVE HERSELF SINCE HER [00:44:24] FORMER BOSS, NICHOLAS MADURO, [00:44:27] WAS TAKEN INTO CUSTODY. INTERESTING STORY WE'LL LEARN MORE ABOUT. [00:44:31] LET'S GO TO TAMPA, FLORIDA. MIKE ON THE REPUBLICAN LINE. [00:44:34] WHAT'S YOUR TOP STORY, MIKE? [00:44:38] CALLER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HAVE A FEW THINGS I WANT TO [00:44:41] WEIGH IN ON. FIRST OF ALL, THE DEMOCRAT CALLER THAT WAS TALKING ABOUT [00:44:45] WAR HEROES AND HOW TRUMP NEVER [00:44:50] SERVED, I DON'T RECALL BIDEN EVER SERVING. [00:44:52] I THINK HE DEFERRED SIX TIMES. [00:44:55] OBAMA NEVER SERVED HE WAS GETTING HIGH AT 16 IN HIGH SCHOOL. [00:44:59] AND CLINTON NEVER SERVED EITHER. [00:45:00] SO IF WE'RE GOING TO COMPARE [00:45:03] APPLES TO ORANGES, THERE YOU GO. [00:45:06] AND AS FAR AS VENEZUELA, THAT 65 [00:45:12] BARRELS -- OR 65 BILLION BARRELS [00:45:14] OF OIL IS GOING TO CRUSH CANADA, [00:45:19] BECAUSE THAT'S THE SAME TYPE OF [00:45:21] OIL THAT OUR REFINERIES USE. AND ALSO CANADA THINKS THAT [00:45:25] THEY'RE GOING TO CRUSH US ECONOMICALLY. [00:45:29] THEIR PIPELINES GO INTO AMERICA AND THEN BACK UP INTO THEIR COUNTRY. [00:45:33] THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A PIPELINE [00:45:35] THAT GOES EAST TO WEST ACROSS THEIR COUNTRY. [00:45:39] SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE ALWAYS GET THE CANADIAN [00:45:43] NEWS WHEN -- I MEAN, I KNOW WHY, [00:45:47] BECAUSE IT'S TRYING TO SMEAR [00:45:49] TRUMP, THE REPUBLICANS, THIS IS [00:45:52] ALL SORT OF PUSHED THE MIDTERMS. [00:45:54] AND IF YOU LOOK AT MARK CARNEY'S [00:45:59] CABINET, THERE'S A DEMOCRAT IN [00:46:00] THERE WHO WAS IN WITH THE HILLARY CLINTON CAMPAIGN. [00:46:04] NOW, WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, RENAMING LAKES AND THINGS LIKE [00:46:08] THAT, I'M OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER [00:46:11] THAT DEMOCRATS RENAMED [00:46:14] MONUMENTS, TORE DOWN STATUES AND [00:46:18] OBAMA RENAMED MOUNT McKINLEY, [00:46:21] DIDN'T HE? [00:46:23] TO DENALI BUT NOBODY PULLED [00:46:28] THEIR HAIR OUT AND WENT CRAZY FOR THAT. [00:46:30] BUT I'M REALLY CALLING ABOUT THE [00:46:34] BRAND NEW DREDGE OR DREDGE [00:46:37] STRAIT THAT WAS CREATED ON THE COAST BY THE UNITED STATES MILITARY. [00:46:41] YOU KNOW, THE ONE THAT EVERYBODY [00:46:43] THINKS THAT THERE'S NO FOOD OR [00:46:46] TAMPONS ON THE BOAT. [00:46:48] WELL, WE JUST DREDGED AN ENTIRE [00:46:51] SHIPPING LANE ALONG THE OMMANI [00:46:55] COAST THAT IRANIANS CAN'T EVEN [00:46:57] SEE BECAUSE IT'S OVER THE HORIZON. [00:47:00] SO THE DOOM OF EVERYTHING, [00:47:03] IT'S -- IT'S -- IF YOU'RE -- IF [00:47:06] YOU LISTEN TO CNN, AND [00:47:09] APPARENTLY C-SPAN, YOU'RE GOING [00:47:11] TO GET THE DEMOCRAT AGENDA, [00:47:14] ANTI-TRUMP, PRETTY MUCH [00:47:17] ANTI-AMERICA -- HOST: MIKE, COULD I POLITELY INTERJECT. [00:47:21] WE PLAYED PETER NAVARRO, THE [00:47:23] PRESIDENT'S TRADE ADVISER WAS ON THE PROGRAM ON WEDNESDAY DEFENDING AND TALKING ABOUT THE [00:47:27] U.S.'S APPROACH WITH THIS WHEN IT COMES TO TRADE TALKS. I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY [00:47:31] ON C-SPAN WE'RE NOT AIRING BOTH [00:47:33] SIDES WHEN IT COMES TO THE TRADE WAR. CALLER: OKAY. [00:47:37] WELL, THEN -- OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH. [00:47:39] BUT THAT WAS ALSO -- HE WAS ALSO [00:47:42] GRILLED INCESSANTLY ON THAT. [00:47:46] BUT AND -- WELL, YOU BROUGHT UP THE FRENCH LANGUAGE. [00:47:49] THAT WAS ALL BROUGHT UP BY THEM. BECAUSE WE WANTED A DEAL, TRUMP [00:47:52] WAS GOING TO SIGN A DEAL BUT [00:47:56] MARK CARNEY WANTED THIS FOR [00:48:00] ELECTION PURPOSES. I FOLLOW CANADIAN POLITICS AS [00:48:04] WELL. DURING THE TRUCKER CONVOY THEY [00:48:08] BASICALLY FROZE PEOPLE'S [00:48:12] ACCOUNTS. BUT I HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT BEFORE I GET CUT OFF. [00:48:15] I WANT TO KNOW WHY YOU DIDN'T [00:48:17] BRING UP THE KABUL 13, THE 13 [00:48:23] KILLED IN THE AFGHAN'S SURRENDER. [00:48:27] >> THERE'S A BIG ANNIVERSARY THAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WAS MARKING. [00:48:29] I HAVEN'T WATCHED EVERY HOUR OF OUR PROGRAM THROUGHOUT THE WEEK [00:48:32] SO I CAN'T SAY IF IT WAS BROUGHT [00:48:35] UP BEFORE OR AFTER THEN. I SAW THE DEFENSE DEPARTMENT, [00:48:39] THEY GO BY THE DEPARTMENT OF WAR, THEY RELEASED A BUNCH OF [00:48:42] VIDEOS MARKING THE ANNIVERSARY, [00:48:49] THEY TALKED ABOUT THE EXPERIENCES GOING THROUGH IT AND REACTING TO IT. [00:48:53] SO THAT IS A BIG STORY AND THE PRESIDENT POSTED AN IMAGE FROM [00:48:56] THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL WHEN HE MET WITH THOSE FAMILIES IN THE [00:48:59] SUMMER OF 2024. [00:49:01] WITH THE IRAN IN IRAN GOING ON, [00:49:04] 18 U.S. SERVICE MEMBERS KILLED [00:49:07] IN THAT SO FAR. WE JUST HIT THE SIX MONTHS OF [00:49:11] THE IRAN WAR, SEVERAL YEARS LATER AFTER THE AFGHAN [00:49:15] WITHDRAWAL. TO ADD YOUR COMMENTS I DID DO A [00:49:18] BIT OF FACT CHECKING. YOU ARE CORRECT THAT PRESIDENT [00:49:22] OBAMA CHANGED THE NAME FROM [00:49:25] MOUNT McKINLEY TO DENNALI. [00:49:29] AND PRESIDENT BIDEN RECEIVED [00:49:33] FIVE STUDENT DRAFT DEFERMENTS THAT KEPT HIM OUT OF THE [00:49:37] MILITARY IN THE VIETNAM WAR AND THE TOPIC OF GAS PRICES WHETHER [00:49:41] OR NOT THE DEAL IS GOING TO IMPACT THINGS IN THE IMMEDIATE [00:49:44] TERM THAT REMAINS TO BE SEEN BECAUSE WE JUST LEARNED ABOUT THE DEAL. [00:49:47] BUT TRIPLE A HAS THE NATIONAL [00:49:51] AVERAGE AT $4.08 A GALLON AND A [00:49:55] YEAR AGO IT WAS $3.20, GAS IS [00:49:58] ABOUT $1 MORE EXPENSIVE NOW THAN [00:50:01] IT WAS WHEN THE WAR AGAINST IRAN STARTED ON FEBRUARY 28TH. [00:50:04] LET'S FIT IN A COUPLE OF MORE [00:50:07] CALLERS BEFORE TAKING A BREAK. LORETTA IS CALLING IN FROM [00:50:11] FLORIDA ON THE DEMOCRATIC LINE. GOOD MORNING YOU'RE ON. [00:50:15] CALLER: GOOD MORNING. HOST: WHAT'S YOUR TOP STORY. CALLER: HELLO? [00:50:19] YES. [00:50:20] MY CONCERN IS ABOUT DONALD [00:50:23] TRUMP'S EFFORTS TO INTERFERE [00:50:26] WITH PEOPLE RIGHT TO VOTE AND [00:50:30] HE'S -- HE'S -- HE SENDS IN A [00:50:35] MAIL-IN BALLOT. IN ADDITION TO THAT, HE SHOULD [00:50:37] NOT EVEN BE INVOLVED WITH THE [00:50:40] STATE'S RIGHTS OF VOTING. [00:50:42] AND AS A PERSON WHO HAS [00:50:46] COMMITTED CRIMES HIMSELF, WE ALL [00:50:50] KNOW THAT HE CONTACTED GEORGIA [00:50:54] ASKING, ALL I NEED, ALL I NEED, [00:51:01] 11,800 VOTES AND WHO KNOW HOW [00:51:05] MANY OTHER SECRETARIES HE CONTACTED REGARDING THEM GIVING [00:51:09] HIM EXTRA VOTES IN ORDER TO WIN. [00:51:12] AND HE NEEDS TO STOP THAT. [00:51:14] ALSO, IN ADDITION TO THAT, OUR [00:51:18] REPUBLICAN PARTY IN CONGRESS AND [00:51:20] THE SENATE AS WELL AS THE [00:51:23] SUPREME COURT NEED TO DO THEIR [00:51:25] JOB AND STOP ENDORSING THINGS [00:51:28] THAT THEY KNOW THAT THE CONTRARY TO WHAT IS RIGHT. [00:51:32] AND I THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. THANK YOU. [00:51:36] HOST: THANK YOU, LORETTA. YOU BRING UP THE MAIL-IN VOTING [00:51:39] CASE AND STORY LINE PLAYING OUT. [00:51:42] HERE'S AN ARTICLE FROM CBS NEWS. [00:51:45] A FEDERAL JUDGE ON THURSDAY BLOCKED THE POSTAL SERVICE FROM [00:51:49] ENFORCING THE NEW REQUIREMENTS FOR MAIL VOTING FOR THE NOVEMBER MIDTERM ELECTIONS. [00:51:53] THE ORDER IS THE LATEST DEVELOPMENT IN THE LEGAL BATTLE [00:51:56] OVER EFFORTS TO TIGHTEN MAIL VOTING AHEAD OF NOVEMBER [00:52:00] ELECTIONS. THAT FIGHT ESCALATED AFTER THE [00:52:02] SUPREME COURT HALTED A DECISION [00:52:04] IN A DIFFERENT CASE BLOCKING THE [00:52:07] TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IN AN [00:52:10] EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT AIMS TO [00:52:14] RESTRICT MAIL VOTING. [00:52:16] SO THEY WANT TO MAKE CHANGES HOW THE BALLOTS ARE PROCESSED. [00:52:20] THE PRESIDENT VOTES BY MAIL HIMSELF HE HAS MULTIPLE TIMES [00:52:23] THE LAST FEW YEARS BUT INSISTS THERE SHOULD BE LESS OPPORTUNITY FOR IT. [00:52:27] HE CONTINUES TO PUSH ALLEGATIONS THAT AREN'T THERE ABOUT VOTER [00:52:30] FRAUD RELATED TO MAIL-IN BALLOTS [00:52:34] BUT THIS CONTINUES TO PLAY OUT IN THE COURT SO IT'S A BIG STORY. [00:52:37] THANKS FOR RAISING IT. [00:52:38] LET'S GO OUT TO MINNESOTA, [00:52:42] VULKER IS ON THE INDEPENDENT LINE. GOOD MORNING. [00:52:45] YOU'RE ON WITH US. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. THIS MORNING I SAW ON THE NEWS [00:52:50] THERE WAS -- I THINK IT WAS [00:52:53] PROFESSOR FROM HONG KONG AND HE [00:52:57] TALKED ABOUT THE DISASTER IN [00:53:02] NEPAL. [00:53:04] AND CONNECTED IT WITH OUR CARBON [00:53:09] DIOXIDE PRODUCTION. [00:53:11] AND HE POINTED OUT IN THAT [00:53:14] CONNECTION THE GREAT DEAL WITH [00:53:21] VENEZUELA, CHEAP OIL, AND QUICK MONEY. [00:53:24] AND SO, THAT IS CONCERNING [00:53:30] THAT -- THE THOUGHT THAT WE HAVE [00:53:32] AN IMPACT ON OUR ENVIRONMENT AND [00:53:35] LIFE OF OTHERS. [00:53:36] IT'S NOT A PART OF OUR POLITICS. [00:53:40] I MEAN, TALKING ABOUT OUR KIDS [00:53:43] AND WHATEVER, THAT JUST STRUCK ME THIS MORNING. [00:53:46] AND YEAH, I HAD TO GET THAT OUT [00:53:50] IN THE AIR. HOST: THANKS FOR RAISING THAT. [00:53:54] THAT HORRIBLE DISASTER IN NEPAL [00:53:57] HAS BEEN DREADFUL. THE DEATH TOLL CONTINUES TO RISE [00:54:01] AND THERE'S TALK ABOUT WHAT [00:54:03] CAUSED THAT DISASTER. "THE NEW YORK TIMES" SAY EXPERTS [00:54:07] SAY THE COLLAPSE WAS DIFFICULT [00:54:09] TO PREDICT GIVEN THE CHALLENGES IN FORECASTING AND DETECTING [00:54:13] SUCH CALAMITIES, RESEARCHERS [00:54:16] ADVISE BANNING CONSTRUCTION ON FLOOD PLAINS AND MARKING OUT [00:54:20] CLEAR EVACUATION ROUTES BUT IT [00:54:23] APPEARED THAT WAS CAUSED BY A [00:54:26] PIECE OF GLACIER COLLAPSING. [00:54:33] THANKS FOR THAT. [00:54:35] HOST: LET'S GO BACK TO THE [00:54:39] BUCKEYE STATE, RICH IS CALLING IN. [00:54:42] WHAT'S YOUR TOP STORY. [00:54:44] CALLER: THE DEFICIT, IT SEEMS [00:54:47] LIKE IF PEOPLE COULD PUT MONEY -- PARTICULARLY RICH [00:54:51] PEOPLE, THE MONEY WOULD GO TO PAY OFF THE DEBT, NOTHING ELSE, [00:54:54] IT GETS FROZEN AND STRAIGHT INTO THE DEBT. [00:54:57] BY DOING THAT WE COULD HAVE OTHER PEOPLE WHO COULD PUT MONEY [00:55:00] IN TO PAY OFF THE DEBT. THE OTHER WAYS THEY COULD PUT [00:55:04] MONEY TO MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE BECAUSE HEALTH CARE IS SUCH A [00:55:07] BIG PROBLEM, IF THEY COULD PUT IT INTO A DISEASE, YOU IT TAKES [00:55:11] MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, JUST LIKE [00:55:14] IN THE BEGINNING WHEN WE SOLVED POLIO IT TOOK MILLIONS OF [00:55:18] DOLLARS FOR THE FIRST SHOTS OF POLIO AND LATER ON IT WAS [00:55:22] NOTHING FOR THE PRIZE WISE AND [00:55:24] LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE IT MADE [00:55:27] FOR OUR GOVERNMENT. IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT CURED. [00:55:30] THE PAIN EVERYONE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH. BECAUSE WE'RE LIABLE FOR ALL [00:55:34] THIS HEALTH CARE, THE GOVERNMENT IS, IF WE CAN TAKE THE TOP 20 [00:55:39] DISEASES AND CUT THROUGH THEM AND NOT WASTE IT ON SOME OTHER [00:55:42] GOOFY THINGS WHEN WE WIN ON THESE DISEASES. [00:55:46] THE OTHER IS THERE'S GOOD AND BAD SPENDING, AS WE KNOW ABOUT [00:55:49] THE GOLDEN GOOSE, GOT TO FEED [00:55:52] THE GOLDEN GOOSE IF YOU WANT TO GET GOLDEN EGGS. [00:55:55] IT'S THE SAME IN OUR ECONOMY. IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A GOOD [00:55:58] DINNER, A NICE DINNER WITH THE GOLDEN GOOSE, GOOD LUCK. [00:56:02] BUT DON'T COMPLAIN WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THE EGGS. [00:56:04] THE OTHER ONE IS, IT'S REALLY [00:56:07] IMPORTANT FOR US TO PULL [00:56:10] TOGETHER AND SMALL AMOUNTS OF MONEY WOULD BE PUT INTO THIS [00:56:13] FUND THAT WOULDN'T GET WASTED. THE OTHER THING I THINK WE'RE [00:56:16] GIVING UP, NOT PAYING ATTENTION [00:56:19] TO THE SMART PEOPLE WHAT THEY DO NOT WANT TO -- THEY WANT TO [00:56:23] AVOID TAXES WHY? BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING [00:56:25] TO WASTE IT AND WE DON'T WANT TO [00:56:28] PAY TAXES WHEN THE GOVERNMENT WASTES IT. [00:56:30] IF YOU HAD THE FUNDS THAT THEY [00:56:34] WOULD NOT WASTE THE MONEY AND IT'S GOING STRAIGHT TO THE DEBT [00:56:37] YOU MAY HAVE IDEAS COMING FROM THOSE PEOPLE WHEN THEY GET THEIR [00:56:41] POWER, PLUS THE INDIVIDUAL [00:56:42] PEOPLE PUT $1,000 TO TAKE DOWN [00:56:46] THE DEBT OVER A COUPLE OF YEARS [00:56:48] TO MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. [00:56:51] WE'RE SPENDING -- HAVE 5 [00:56:54] TRILLION COMING IN WE CAN DO [00:56:57] GOOD THINGS WITH IT OR WASTE IT. THANKS. [00:57:00] HOST: THE HEADLINE IS THE NATIONAL DEBT HIT 40 TRILLION [00:57:04] DOLLAR, AND BOTH PARTIES POINT IT OUT BUT NOT MUCH IS BEING [00:57:07] DONE TO FIX IT OR TRY TO LOWER IT. [00:57:10] IT'S AN EYE POPPING NUMBER, 40 TRILLION. [00:57:14] TO SOUTH CAROLINA, LEE IS CALLING IN ON THE DEMOCRATIC LINE. [00:57:17] WHAT'S YOUR TOP STORY, LEE? [00:57:19] CALLER: I'M TALKING ABOUT THE AIR FORCE OFFICER BEING COURT [00:57:23] MARSHALLED FOR SPEAKING OUT AGAINST TRUMP. [00:57:25] AND I WOULD RELATE THAT TO THE [00:57:29] AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT ASK WHAT IS THE STATE OF THE UNION AS IT [00:57:32] WOULD RELATE TO THE MILITARY. [00:57:36] YOU GOT OTHER STORIES ABOUT [00:57:42] THE UNITED STATES OR THE ARMY, [00:57:45] EXCUSE ME, NOT SUPPORTING SOUTH [00:57:51] KOREA AND KEEPING THE DMZ STRONG. [00:57:54] YOU HAVE THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ, [00:57:56] YOU HAVE TALK ABOUT TRYING TO [00:57:59] WIN THE WAR IN IRAN. AND I DON'T THINK THOSE THINGS [00:58:03] ARE POSSIBLE IF THE MORAL IN THE [00:58:07] MILITARY IS SO POOR AS IT IS RIGHT NOW. [00:58:11] THERE'S A TREMENDOUS UPTICK IN [00:58:13] THE NUMBER OF OBJECTORS WHICH IS [00:58:19] A DIFFICULT STATUS TO ATTAIN TO GET OUT. [00:58:22] SUPPOSEDLY IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IT'S GONE UP TREMENDOUSLY [00:58:26] OVER THE LAST, I WANT TO SAY, 100 YEARS. [00:58:29] AND SO, WHEN YOU LOOK AT AMERICA [00:58:35] NOT WINNING THE FIRST DAY YOU COULD HAVE ENDED THE WAR IN [00:58:39] UKRAINE, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN A TREMENDOUS BOOST WHICH OVERLAPS [00:58:43] TO THE ALLIES AND THE ALLIES [00:58:48] ISSUE IS A HUGE ISSUE. [00:58:50] IT ALL GOES TO SUPPORTING [00:58:54] AMERICA OR THE NAVY. YOU CAN'T OPERATE WORLDWIDE [00:58:57] UNLESS YOU HAVE THESE PLACES THAT CAN SUPPORT YOUR SUPPLY CHAIN. [00:59:01] AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE LINCOLN [00:59:04] AND PROBABLY AN ENTIRE SHIP OF [00:59:05] PEOPLE WITH PTSD THAT WE HAVE TO [00:59:09] DEAL WITH NOW. [00:59:10] YOU LOOK AT A PRESIDENT THAT [00:59:13] DECIDED TO HAVE A PHOTO OP IN [00:59:17] ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETERY, THE PLACE WHERE PRESIDENT KENNEDY IS [00:59:21] LAID TO REST. A PHOTO OP FOR WHICH HE HAD TO [00:59:25] CAUSE A DISTURBANCE BECAUSE THE RULES SAID HE SHOULDN'T DO THAT [00:59:29] AND HE'S CAUSING THIS [00:59:31] DISTURBANCE IN THAT PLACE OF REST. [00:59:34] HE HAS TROOPS, SOLDIERS, [00:59:38] FLYOVERS AND THESE THINGS TO [00:59:41] CELEBRATE HIM IN THE SAME [00:59:44] PRESIDENT THAT WE SHOULD BE [00:59:46] CELEBRATING AMERICA'S BIRTHDAY. [00:59:49] SO HE DOES NOT COMMAND A RESPECT. [00:59:52] HE GETS A HEGSETH THAT COMES IN, [00:59:56] WHO COMES UP WITH THIS DEI [01:00:00] POLICY, WHICH IS VERY UNMOTIVATING BECAUSE IF YOU [01:00:03] DON'T PROMOTE AND -- IT CREATES [01:00:07] SUCH A HIGH DEGREE OF DISRESPECT [01:00:10] IN THE RANKS THAT WHEN YOU CAN'T [01:00:13] HOLD PEOPLE TOGETHER THEY WILL [01:00:16] JUMP-- [01:00:22] YOU WILL SEE THE ARMY NOT FUNCTION. [01:00:25] WE WILL GO BACK AGAIN TO THE [01:00:30] LEADER OF CHINA. HE SAID HIS GOAL WAS TO MAKE [01:00:33] CHINA A WORLD EMPIRE. [01:00:38] AND SO, IF YOU DON'T HOLD [01:00:39] AMERICA UP, YOU ALLOW RUSSIA TO [01:00:45] BE UNDER SIEGE FROM ITS OWN [01:00:48] DOING, GOING INTO UKRAINE. [01:00:53] WHEN CHINA DECIDES TO MOVE, IT CAN MOVE BIG. [01:00:56] IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIME AND [01:00:57] YOU DON'T HAVE THE ALLIES TOGETHER. [01:01:01] HOST: I'M GOING TO POLITELY [01:01:04] INTERRUPT BECAUSE HE TOUCHED ON A FEW TOPICS WORTH RAISING. [01:01:08] YOU TALK ABOUT THE CONDITIONS OF THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER THAT HAS [01:01:11] BEEN DEPLOYED IN IRAN FOR MONTHS. SOME OF THEM ARE NOW BEING [01:01:15] SWAPPED OUT. YOU BROUGHT UP THE STORY, I PULLED UP A MILITARY TIMES ARTICLE. [01:01:20] AIR FORCE MAJOR WHO KEEPS CALLING FOR TRUMP'S IMPEACHMENT [01:01:24] CHARGED WITH 10 COUNTS UNDER MILITARY LAW. THEY WRITE LEGAL ACTION UNDER [01:01:27] MILITARY LAW IS BEING TAKEN [01:01:30] AGAINST JASON WATSON, KNOWN FOR [01:01:33] HIS REPEATED PUBLIC CALLS FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP'S IMPEACHMENT. [01:01:36] HE WAS CHARGED WITH 10 COUNTS UNDER THE UNIFORM CODE OF [01:01:40] MILITARY JUSTICE. CHARGES INCLUDE THREE RARE COUNTS OF SHOWING CONTEMPT [01:01:44] TOWARD GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS. HE FACES CHARGES UNDER ARTICLE [01:01:47] 88 FOR CONTEMPT TOWARD OFFICIALS, ARTICLE 92 FOR [01:01:51] DERELICTION OF DUTY AND ARTICLE 133 FOR CONDUCT UNBECOMING OF AN [01:01:55] OFFICER. A CHARGING DOCUMENT WATSON'S [01:01:58] ATTORNEY SHARED WITH CNN LISTS THREE SPECIFICATIONS UNDER [01:02:02] ARTICLE 88, 5 UNDER -- [01:02:07] IT'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF [01:02:11] SECRETARY HEGSETH SEEING A CRACKDOWN AGAINST OFFICERS. [01:02:14] WE HAD THIS, EMILY FROM ALBANY, [01:02:17] OREGON WROTE IN AN IT WAS SORT OF RELATED. HER BIGGEST NEWS STORY OF THE [01:02:21] WEEK IS THE SIX-MONTH ANNIVERSARY OF THE START OF THE IRAN WAR. [01:02:24] TRUMP PROMISED HE WOULD NOT GET [01:02:27] US INVOLVED IN ANY MORE POINTLESS WARS YET HERE WE NOW ARE. [01:02:31] THE SIX-MONTH ANNIVERSARY WAS YESTERDAY. [01:02:33] THERE IS NO LINE INSIGHT FOR THE WAR ENDING. [01:02:37] 18 SERVICE MEMBERS HAVE BEEN KILLED, 750 HAVE BEEN INJURED. [01:02:40] THE LATEST PRICE TAG WAS $37.5 [01:02:45] BILLION AND THAT IS EXPECTED TO RISE. WE WILL CONTINUE TAKING SOME CALLS. [01:02:49] THANKS TO EVERYONE PATIENTLY WAITING ON THE LINE PRINT LET'S [01:02:52] GO TO TO LEAVE IN LAUREL -- TAL [01:02:58] IB IN LAUREL, MARYLAND. [01:02:59] CALLER: I'M 81 YEARS OLD. [01:03:03] MY FAMILY HAS BEEN IN THIS COUNTRY, MY AFRICAN-AMERICAN [01:03:08] FAMILY HAS BEEN IN THIS COUNTRY SINCE THE 16 90'S. [01:03:12] AS A LITTLE BOY GROWING UP IN PHILLY, MY PARENTS AND [01:03:16] GRANDPARENTS TAUGHT ME THE TRUE HISTORY OF AMERICA. [01:03:18] WE WERE WORKING CLASS. MY FATHER NEVER WENT PAST THE SEVENTH GRADE. [01:03:24] ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS [01:03:26] TAUGHT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU [01:03:30] KNOW THE TRUE HISTORY OF THIS [01:03:32] COUNTRY AND YOU DEVELOP CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS, IT CAN GO A LONG WAY. [01:03:36] MY PARENTS TAUGHT ME YOU HAD TO [01:03:39] DO TWO TO THREE TIMES BETTER THAN THE WHITE MAN JUST TO SURVIVE HERE. [01:03:43] NOW, YOU LOOK AT DEI, WHITE [01:03:49] MALES HAVE HAD AFFIRMATIVE ACTION FOR 407 YEARS. [01:03:53] YOU HAD LEGACY ADMISSIONS FOR [01:03:58] WHITE PEOPLE IN ALL THESE UNIVERSITIES. [01:04:01] THROUGH COLLEGE AND GRADUATE SCHOOL EMPLOYMENT, I HAVE LIVED [01:04:04] ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. [01:04:08] MY PARENTS WERE POINTING THIS OUT TO ME IN 1954 AND 1955, WHICH STARTED THIS. [01:04:16] NOW, THIS IS LIKE THE TWILIGHT ZONE. EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP, IT'S [01:04:20] LIKE ANOTHER EPISODE OF THE TWILIGHT ZONE. IT'S 1959. WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE? [01:04:25] TRUMP IS A NINE-YEAR-OLD [01:04:28] MENTALLY DERANGED WHITE [01:04:32] SUPREMACIST DUMMY. HE'S A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR. [01:04:35] HE'S AN INSURRECTIONIST. [01:04:37] HE IS A SERIAL SEX ABUSER AND SERIAL RAPIST. [01:04:41] HE SAID THAT HIMSELF WHEN HE SAID I GRABBED WOMEN BY THE P. [01:04:44] HOST: I WILL SAY HE WAS FOUND [01:04:49] LIABLE FOR SEXUAL ABUSE, TECHNICALLY NOT FOR RAPE AND [01:04:52] THAT IS SOMETHING THE PRESIDENT HAS SOUGHT TO CLARIFY IT REPEATEDLY. [01:04:56] OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE VERY CRITICAL OF THE PRESIDENT. IS THERE A POLICY DISPUTE YOU HAVE? [01:05:00] YOU'VE MADE CLEAR IF YOU DON'T FEEL HE'S FIT FOR OFFICE. [01:05:02] IS THERE AN ISSUE THAT YOU THINK IS YOUR TOP POLICY ISSUE RIGHT NOW? [01:05:09] MAYBE WE LOST HIM. THANK YOU FOR CALLING IN. [01:05:14] LET'S GO TO MASSACHUSETTS. ANTHONY IS ON THE LINE, THE REPUBLICAN LINE. [01:05:17] THANKS FOR CALLING IN. WHAT'S YOUR TOP STORY? [01:05:19] CALLER: I WANT TO STRESS THE [01:05:23] IMPORTANCE OF KEEPING THE [01:05:26] PRESSURE ON IRAN. [01:05:28] I KNOW SOME PEOPLE THINK IT'S A [01:05:36] POINTLESS WAR. I DON'T THINK IT IS. I THINK IT IS THE FURTHEST THING FROM THAT. [01:05:40] THERE IS A QUOTE FROM SOMEBODY [01:05:46] ABOUT ONE DEATH BEING A TRAGEDY [01:05:49] AND A MILLION DEATHS BEING A STATISTIC. [01:05:54] AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH PEOPLE [01:05:57] NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THE [01:06:00] PROPORTIONS OF TRAGEDIES. [01:06:04] AND SO WE LOST ABOUT OVER 3000 [01:06:12] PEOPLE ON 9/11. [01:06:13] AND MAYBE 7000, COUNTING THE [01:06:17] PEOPLE WHO DIED LATER. [01:06:20] BUT, IF WE HAD A NUCLEAR ATTACK [01:06:23] ON OUR COUNTRY, THAT WOULD BE [01:06:27] MAYBE NOT MILLIONS OF TIMES BIGGER BUT 1000 TIMES WORSE. [01:06:34] IF A MAJOR CITY JUST DISAPPEARS. [01:06:38] THE IRANIANS ARE NOT EVEN THE [01:06:44] NORTH KOREANS, WHICH ARE [01:06:48] RESTRAINED SOMEWHAT BY CHINA. [01:06:51] THEY ARE FANATICAL, RELIGIOUS NUTS. [01:06:56] IF ANY COUNTRY WAS GOING TO [01:06:59] ATTACK US WITH NUKES, I THINK IT WOULD BE THEM. [01:07:04] WE HAVE TO, IF WE WANT A SUCCESSFUL COUNTRY AND WE WANT [01:07:08] TO AVOID TERRIBLE CIRCUMSTANCES, [01:07:10] WE HAVE TO BE RATIONAL ABOUT THE [01:07:14] PROPORTION OF DAMAGE THAT WE CAN [01:07:19] SUSTAIN FROM AN ATTACK. WE WENT TO WAR WITH TWO [01:07:23] COUNTRIES, IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN DURING 9/11. [01:07:30] TWO BUILDINGS GOT KNOCKED DOWN. [01:07:31] IF WE GET NUKED, THAT WILL MAKE [01:07:35] US FORGET ALL ABOUT 9/11. HOST: I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP [01:07:40] THE IRAN WAR. WE'VE HAD SOME SOUND ON DECK FROM THE PRESIDENT. [01:07:43] HE PROVIDED AN UPDATE ON THURSDAY ABOUT WHERE THINGS [01:07:46] STAND, ESPECIALLY WITH PEACE TALKS HAVING STALLED. WE WILL PLAY THAT AND THEN WE [01:07:50] HAVE A STATEMENT FROM THE TOP SENATE DEMOCRAT, CHUCK SCHUMER. [01:07:54] HERE'S WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID ON THURSDAY. [01:07:58] PRES. TRUMP: IRAN RIGHT NOW ARE [01:08:02] NOT PAYING THEIR TROOPS. THEY ARE IN DEEP TROUBLE. THEY HAVE VERY LITTLE CAPACITY. [01:08:08] WE ARE TAKING THEM THROUGH ALL THE TIME. [01:08:12] IT DOES NOT MEAN WE ARE FINISHED [01:08:13] WITH THE MILITARY BUT THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ IS OPEN. [01:08:19] WE HAVE CONTROL. WE HAVE THE BLOCKADE. [01:08:22] IRAN IS NOT GETTING ANYTHING, NOTHING IS GOING THROUGH. NOT ONE SHIP. [01:08:29] IT DEPENDS. SO FAR, I THINK RUSSIA HAS [01:08:32] BEHAVED QUITE WELL, HAVING TO DO WITH THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ. [01:08:36] FOR EVERYTHING WE DO -- EVERYTHING THEY DO, WE DO ALSO. [01:08:43] WE SPY ON THEM TOO. [01:08:44] >> WHY NOT SANCTION CHINESE BANKS? [01:08:50] PRES. TRUMP: WHO SAID I'M NOT? YOU SAID WHY NOT, WHO SAID I'M [01:08:54] NOT? I DON'T HAVE TO ANNOUNCE EVERYTHING, DO I? [01:08:59] HOST: PRESIDENT TRUMP ON [01:09:03] THURSDAY DISCUSSING THE LATEST IRAN WAR NEWS. [01:09:05] HE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IT ON [01:09:08] FRIDAY WHICH WAS TECHNICALLY THE SIX MONTHS ANNIVERSARY OF THE WAR STARTING. [01:09:13] IT STARTED ON FEBRUARY 28, [01:09:18] YESTERDAY WAS AUGUST 20. -- ROAD DONALD TRUMP TOOK [01:09:21] AMERICA TO WAR WITH NO PLAN TO [01:09:22] WIN IT AND NO PLAN TO END IT. [01:09:28] SIX MONTHS LATER, AMERICANS ARE PAYING FOR BOTH. [01:09:30] 18 SERVICE MEMBER'S ARE DEAD, [01:09:32] GAS PRICES HAVE SURGED, IRAN IS [01:09:36] HOLDING THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ HOSTAGE, AMERICA IS LESS SECURE [01:09:40] AND THE PRESIDENT SO CAN'T EVEN EXPLAIN WHAT VICTORY IT LOOKS [01:09:43] LIKE OR HOW THE WAR ENDS. SENATE REPUBLICANS KNOW THE COSTS AND THE MASS RISKS AND [01:09:47] STILL, WHEN GIVEN THE CHANCE TO ACT, THEY COWER BEFORE DONALD [01:09:51] TRUMP. MANY SENATORS RELEASED STATEMENTS COMMENTING ON THE [01:09:54] SIX-MONTH MARK OF THIS WAR. WE WILL CONTINUE TO TAKE CALLS [01:09:57] AS WE DISCUSS YOUR TOP NEWS STORY OF THE WEEK. [01:09:59] SO MANY DIFFERENT STORIES SWIRLING AROUND OVER THE LAST SEVEN DAYS. [01:10:03] LET'S GO TO VIRGINIA. TROY IS CALLING IN FROM [01:10:06] CLARKSVILLE ON THE INDEPENDENT LINE. HEY, TROY. YOU ARE ON WITH US. [01:10:13] CALLER: GOOD MORNING AND THANK [01:10:17] YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. MY TOP STORY WAS OR IS CONCERNED [01:10:20] THE OIL DEAL THAT WAS ANNOUNCED BY TRUMP. [01:10:23] EVEN THOUGH, EVEN IF WE DON'T [01:10:31] SEE RESULTS TOMORROW OR THE NEXT DAY, SO WHAT? [01:10:34] YOU DON'T BUILD A HOUSE ON MONDAY AND MOVE IN ON TUESDAY. IT TAKES A WILD. [01:10:39] THE ANNOUNCEMENT ITSELF WAS GREAT. THE INFORMATION WAS GREAT. THE COUNTRY WILL BENEFIT GREATLY. [01:10:48] AND THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO [01:10:49] BRING UP WAS CONCERNING THIS [01:10:55] COUNTRY'S LACK OF WILLING TO SACRIFICE ANYTHING FOR ANYTHING. [01:10:59] NO ONE WANTS TO GO TO WAR. WAR IS THE WORST THING IN THE WORLD. [01:11:03] IT'S THE WORST. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE TO GO, YOU HAVE TO GO DELIBERATELY. [01:11:07] YOU HAVE TO GO WITH INTENT. [01:11:11] YOU HAVE TO ACCOMPLISH YOUR MISSION. YOU CAN'T GO IN TO BE TOWING. WAR IS TERRIBLE. [01:11:16] AND FOR EVERYONE WHO LOOKS AT [01:11:19] THE SITUATION AND, WITH A [01:11:22] NEGATIVE VIEW, OF COURSE. [01:11:25] NO ONE WANTS IT. [01:11:28] BUT FOR IRAN, THE LEADING SPONSOR OF TERROR FOR THE LAST [01:11:31] 47 YEARS, ESPECIALLY AGAINST US, [01:11:36] IRAN HAD TO BE DEALT WITH. EITHER NOW OR IN THE FUTURE. [01:11:41] I SAY DEAL WITH IRAN NOW. [01:11:43] THE ONLY PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THE [01:11:45] EXECUTION OF THIS WAR IS WE WERE, IN MY OPINION, A LITTLE [01:11:50] BIT RECKLESS. [01:11:54] VIETNAM LASTED MANY YEARS, OVER 58,000 SOLDIERS WERE KILLED IN [01:11:58] VIETNAM. VIETNAM WAS NOTHING ANYONE AGREED WITH. [01:12:05] AND IN MY OPINION, IRAN IS MUCH [01:12:06] MORE DIRE THAN VIETNAM EVER WAS, [01:12:10] AS FAR AS VESSELS AND OUR WELL-BEING IN THE WORLD. [01:12:16] IRAN WANTS TO DESTROY THIS COUNTRY. [01:12:17] HOST: TROY, WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF [01:12:21] THE PRESIDENT, HE THROUGHOUT THE [01:12:24] LAST SIX MONTHS HAS OFFERED MANY [01:12:27] DIFFERENT PUBLIC PREDICTIONS OF TIMELINES. HE SAID THIS WOULD BE OVER IN A [01:12:30] COUPLE OF WEEKS. IN MARCH, HE SAID THE WAR HAD [01:12:33] BEEN WON. [01:12:36] HE HAS EXTENDED THAT OVER AND OVER AGAIN. YOU TALKED ABOUT IT BEING [01:12:39] FECKLESS IN YOUR VIEW EVEN THOUGH YOU SUPPORTED THE OVERALL MISSION. [01:12:45] DO YOU THINK THE PRESIDENT [01:12:46] TRIPPED HIMSELF UP BY ANNOUNCING [01:12:51] THOSE TIMELINES? >> PROBABLY SO A LITTLE BIT. [01:12:54] BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, [01:13:00] TRUMP IS SURROUNDED BY ALL OF THESE ADVISORS. [01:13:04] YOU HAVE THESE EXPERT ADVISORS TRYING TO TELL HIM THIS. [01:13:07] HE NEEDS TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHATEVER. [01:13:11] HE HAS TO RELY ON THESE EXPERT ADVISORS THAT ARE AROUND HIM ALL THE TIME. [01:13:16] NOT THE TV PUNDITS. [01:13:18] NOT THE ANCHORS THAT, TO ME, EVEN THOUGH LESS. [01:13:26] AS TO WHAT SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT [01:13:26] BE DONE, AS OPPOSED TO REPORTING [01:13:30] THE NEWS AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, INSTEAD OF [01:13:36] INTERJECTING SOME OPINIONS WHICH [01:13:37] I THINK ARE LESS WORTHY THAN -- [01:13:41] I THINK HE'S GOTTEN HIMSELF IN A [01:13:45] TRICK BAG BY COMING OUT AND [01:13:50] SAYING DIFFERENT THINGS. I THINK HE SHOULD HAVE JUST TOLD THE PEOPLE THE TRUTH. [01:13:53] TOLD US WHAT WAS GOING ON, DID IT AND GOT IT OVER WITH. AND GET BACK. [01:14:00] BECAUSE PROBLEMS HAVE TO BE DEALT WITH. [01:14:02] YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY KIND OF SMALL [01:14:05] PROBLEM BECAUSE IT WILL BECOME A BIGGER PROBLEM IF IT IS NOT DEALT WITH. [01:14:08] HOST: THANKS FOR THE DIALOGUE. APPRECIATE IT. [01:14:12] LET'S GO TO A NEIGHBOR OF YOURS JUST NORTH, EDWARD IS CALLING IN [01:14:15] FROM MARYLAND ON THE DEMOCRATIC LINE. WHAT'S YOUR TOP STORY? [01:14:18] CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [01:14:21] FIRST OF ALL, IRAN WAS NOT AN [01:14:25] IMMINENT THREAT TO US. OK, LET'S GET THAT CLEAR. [01:14:38] WHAT DID THE SUPREME COURT SAY? I THOUGHT THE SUPREME COURT TOLD [01:14:42] HIM HE DIDN'T HAVE THE POWER TO [01:14:47] DO THIS. [01:14:49] BRING SOMEBODY ON THE SHOW AND [01:14:54] YOU CAN LAY OUT THE DETAILS OF THAT RULING. [01:14:59] THE BIGGEST THING ABOUT THESE [01:15:01] TARIFFS, THE COUNTRY, THE UNITED [01:15:04] STATES IS NOT BEHIND TRUMP ON [01:15:07] THIS. THE MAN IS AT 33%. [01:15:12] THE COUNTRY IS BEHIND CARNEY. [01:15:15] I THINK HE HAS THE BIGGEST HAND. [01:15:21] ANOTHER THING, IT WAS AN A [01:15:25] LITTLE -- IT WAS A LITTLE ELECTION CALLED THE PENNSYLVANIA [01:15:28] 12 DISTRICT. THIS WAS A SPECIAL ELECTION AND IT HAPPENED TWO WEEKS AGO. [01:15:32] A DEMOCRAT AGAINST A REPUBLICAN. [01:15:40] THIS WAS A DEEP RED DISTRICT. [01:15:42] THE DEMOCRAT, TRUMP WON THE [01:15:50] DISTRICT BY 18.5 POINTS. THEY FLIPPED IT. THEY FLIP THAT DISTRICT. [01:15:59] AND THEN ALSO, ACROSS THE [01:16:01] COUNTRY, I'M TALKING ABOUT [01:16:05] STATEHOUSES, THERE HAS BEEN 25 [01:16:11] STATEHOUSES OR STATE SENATE [01:16:15] SEATS THAT HAVE BEEN FLIPPED FROM REPUBLICAN TO DEMOCRAT. [01:16:23] AND REPUBLICANS HAVE FLIPPED ZERO. [01:16:32] HE'S BACK IN COURT AGAIN, SPENDING TAXPAYERS MONEY. [01:16:36] THIS WAS NAMED AFTER KENNEDY [01:16:41] BECAUSE HE WAS ASSASSINATED. [01:16:45] AND THAT WAS AN HONOR THAT WE [01:16:49] GAVE TO HIM. YOU THINK TRUMP CARES ABOUT THAT? [01:16:58] NOT AT ALL BECAUSE HE'S A NARCISSIST. [01:17:00] HOST: THIS IS AN ARTICLE FROM THE HILL. [01:17:04] DEMOCRATS FLIPPED PENNSYLVANIA STATE HOUSE SEAT. [01:17:07] THIS WAS EARLIER THIS MONTH. BRANDON DUKES DEFEATED [01:17:11] REPUBLICAN SCOTT TIMKO WITH A LEAD JUST SHY OF 100 VOTES IN [01:17:15] THE RACE TO REPRESENT PENNSYLVANIA'S 12 DISTRICT. YOU ARE CORRECT. [01:17:19] THE DISTRICT INCLUDES SOME OF PITTSBURGH AND HAS NOT ELECTED A [01:17:23] DEMOCRAT TO THE STATEHOUSE IN MORE THAN 20 YEARS. [01:17:24] PRESIDENT TRUMP WON THE DISTRICT [01:17:28] BY 18 POINTS IN 2024 SO THAT IS A NOTABLE WIN FOR DEMOCRATS. [01:17:31] THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO HAS BEEN CALLING IN. WE'VE TOUCHED ON SOME HE TOPICS [01:17:35] AND WILL CONTINUE TO. WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A BRIEF BREAK. [01:17:38] A LITTLE LATER, WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER TRADE CONVERSATION [01:17:42] RELATING TO AN INTERESTING TOPIC , HAVING TO DO WITH PRESIDENT [01:17:46] TRUMP WANTING TO IMPORT DISCOUNTED BEEF TO LOWER THE [01:17:50] PRICE FOR GROUND BEEF. HE'S PUTTING ASIDE TARIFFS ON [01:17:53] THOSE IMPORTS AND IT'S LED TO A LOT OF PUSHBACK FROM [01:17:57] REPUBLICANS, AGRICULTURE GROUPS. WE WILL HAVE OLIVIA BRIDGES, THE [01:18:01] CONGRESSIONAL AND TRADE EDITOR [01:18:01] FOR AGRO PULSE -- AGRI-PULSE. [01:18:13] LOTS OF HEADLINES IN THE AGRICULTURAL WORLD. 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EASTERN, AS PART OF OUR IN PURSUIT SERIES ON [01:19:00] PRESIDENTIAL LEADERSHIP, JOURNALISTS AND HISTORIANS [01:19:03] REFLECT ON THE LEGACIES OF PRESIDENT WARREN HARDING, FIRST [01:19:07] LADY FLORENCE HARDING, PRESIDENT WOODROW WILSON AND FIRST LADY EDITH WILSON. [01:19:11] WATCH AMERICAN HISTORY TV, SATURDAYS ON C-SPAN2 AND FIND A [01:19:15] FULL SCHEDULE ON YOUR PROGRAM GUIDE OR WATCH ONLINE ANY TIME AT C-SPAN.ORG/HISTORY. [01:19:22] >> BOOK TV, EVERY SUNDAY ON [01:19:29] C-SPAN2, FEATURES LEADING AUTHORS DISCUSSING THEIR LATEST NONFICTION BOOKS. [01:19:32] HERE'S A LOOK AT WHAT'S COMING UP THIS WEEKEND. [01:19:35] AT 1:45 P.M. EASTERN, JOANNA [01:19:38] STERN, WITH HER BOOK "I AM NOT A ROW," DISCUSSES THE YEAR SHE [01:19:43] USED AI AND ROBOTS IN ALL ASPECTS OF HER LIFE. [01:19:47] AND CORY DOCTOROW. [01:19:50] HE OFFERS GUIDANCE ON HANDLING THE INTRODUCTION OF AI INTO OUR [01:19:54] LIVES AND WORK. AT 5:45 P.M. EASTERN. [01:19:57] ALSO AT 10:30 P.M. EASTERN, [01:19:59] ANNIE JACOBSON, AUTHOR OF THE [01:20:02] BEST-SELLING BOOK "BIOLOGIC [01:20:05] WAR," EXPLORES THE RELEASE OF HOW A BIOLOGICAL WEAPON COULD [01:20:08] PLAY OUT ON A GLOBAL SCALE. [01:20:11] INSIGHTFUL STORIES, WATCH EVERY [01:20:16] DAY ON C-SPAN2. [01:20:19] OR WATCH ONLINE ANYTIME AT BOOK TV.ORG. [01:20:31] >> SUNDAY ON C-SPAN'S QUEUE AND DAY, THREE PULITZER PRIZE-WINNING NEW YORK TIMES PHOTOGRAPHER DOUG MILLS REFLECTS [01:20:34] ON DECADES COVERING AMERICAN POLITICS. [01:20:36] HE TALKS ABOUT PHOTOGRAPHING MULTIPLE PRESIDENTS, INCLUDING [01:20:40] THE 1990 TWO CLINTON-GORE CAMPAIGN. [01:20:44] PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH ON NINE AND CAPTURING THE ATTEMPTED [01:20:47] ASSASSINATION OF -- 911 AND [01:20:51] CAPTURING THE ATTEMPTED ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT TRUMP. [01:20:53] >> I'VE LISTENED TO HIS SPEECH [01:20:57] ON THE CAMPAIGN HUNDREDS OF TIMES. AND I KNEW WHEN HE SAID [01:21:01] SOMETHING ABOUT A CHART, I THOUGHT WOW, THE CHART IS TYPICALLY THE END OF THE SPEECH. [01:21:04] THAT REGISTERED RIGHT AWAY WITH ME. SO THEN WHEN HE GESTURED OVER [01:21:08] TOWARD THE CHART, THAT'S WHEN [01:21:09] THE SHOTS RANG OUT. [01:21:12] WHEN HE WAS GESTURING, I WAS NOT [01:21:15] AS CLOSE AS WE ARE BUT MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE FEET BACK. [01:21:18] I HAD MY LENS ON HIM, I WAS TRYING TO GET SOMETHING OF HE [01:21:21] AND THE FLAG, WHEN HE GESTURED TO THE RIGHT AND THE SHOTS RANG [01:21:26] OUT, I WAS TAKING THE PICTURE [01:21:28] AND I KEPT MY FINGER ON THE [01:21:31] BUTTON AS SOON AS I HEARD THE BULLETS RING OUT. [01:21:33] >> YOU CAN LISTEN TO Q AND A AND [01:21:38] ALL OF OUR PODCASTS ON OUR FREE C-SPAN NOW APP OR WHEREVER YOU [01:21:41] GET YOUR PODCASTS. >> WASHINGTON JOURNAL CONTINUES. [01:21:45] HOST: WELCOME BACK ON THIS BUSY [01:21:49] SATURDAY MORNING. WE ARE GOING TO DIVE A BIT FURTHER INTO THE U.S. AND [01:21:53] CANADA'S TRADE WAR. WE ARE JOINED BY OUR FIRST GUEST OF THE DAY. [01:21:57] CARLO DADE. HE'S THE DIRECTOR OF [01:21:59] INTERNATIONAL POLICY FOR THE NEW [01:22:02] NORTH AMERICA INITIATIVE. HE'S JOINING US FROM CALGARY. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. [01:22:06] GUEST: GOOD MORNING. MY PLEASURE. [01:22:09] HOST: FOR FOLKS UNFAMILIAR WITH [01:22:12] YOUR INSTITUTION, TALK ABOUT THE NEW NORTH AMERICA INITIATIVE AND [01:22:16] THE WORK THAT YOU FOCUS ON. [01:22:17] GUEST: THE NEW NORTH AMERICA INITIATIVE IS IN THE NAME. [01:22:21] A NEW INITIATIVE FOR A NEW, [01:22:25] FORWARD-LOOKING VISION OF HOW WE SHARE THE CONTINENT. IT'S BASED IN THE PHYSICAL REALITY THAT WE ARE HERE [01:22:30] TOGETHER. FOR BETTER OR WORSE, WE ARE [01:22:34] GOING TO HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO [01:22:36] WORK TOGETHER, LIVE TOGETHER, BUILDING ON THE PRESENT REALITIES. [01:22:41] OBVIOUSLY, WHAT WORKED IN THE [01:22:42] PAST IN TERMS OF GUIDING THE [01:22:45] EXPERIENCE BETWEEN US OF COEXISTENCE HAS CHANGED DRASTICALLY. [01:22:49] NOT JUST ON THE RIGHT OF THE U.S., BUT POTENTIALLY ALSO ON [01:22:53] THE LEFT WITH THE PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT. [01:22:56] SO, WE ARE STEPPING BACK, LOOKING BEYOND THE TRADE [01:22:59] RELATIONSHIP AT THOSE THINGS [01:23:02] THAT ALLOW US TO PROSPER TOGETHER ON THE NORTH AMERICAN CONTINENT. [01:23:06] HOST: WE HAVE HAD A GOOD AMOUNT [01:23:10] OF CALLERS OFFERING THEIR TAKES ON WHETHER THIS TRADE DISPUTE [01:23:13] MAKES SENSE FROM THE AMERICAN PERSPECTIVE. FROM THE CANADIAN SIDE OF [01:23:16] THINGS, ARE YOU SURPRISED IT'S GOTTEN TO THIS POINT? [01:23:20] GUEST: FROM THE CANADIAN PERSPECTIVE, YES. [01:23:24] BUT STEPPING BACK AND LOOKING AT THE GLOBAL PERSPECTIVE, WHICH IS [01:23:26] WHAT WE HAVE DONE HERE AT THE INITIATIVE, NOT AT ALL. [01:23:29] THE U.S. HAS DONE THIS WITH 21, [01:23:33] 20 TWO OTHER COUNTRIES BEFORE US, RANGING FROM ARGENTINA ALL [01:23:37] THE WAY DOWN TO THE U.K., JAPAN, [01:23:40] KOREA, WHICH HAD A FREE-TRADE AGREEMENT LIKE CANADA, HAS GONE [01:23:44] THROUGH A SIMILAR PROCESS AS THE U.S. REWRITES GLOBAL TRADE [01:23:48] RULES. IN ONE SENSE, LOOKING AT THE [01:23:50] EVIDENCE, WE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SURPRISED. [01:23:53] BUT GIVEN THE HISTORY OF THE RELATIONSHIP, THE CLOSENESS, HOW [01:23:56] DEEPLY INTERTWINED WE ARE, THERE [01:23:59] IS SOME SURPRISE THAT THIS WOULD HAPPEN TO A COUNTRY SO CLOSE TO [01:24:02] THE U.S. AND SUCH AN IMPORTANT TRADE PARTNER FOR SO MANY STATES. [01:24:06] HOST: YOU ARE A PIECE IN THE [01:24:10] WALRUS THAT SAYS WHY AMERICANS [01:24:10] -- WHILE AMERICANS MAY NEVER [01:24:14] FEEL THE TRADE WAR, OTTAWA IS [01:24:17] BETTING THE TARIFFS WILL ANGER TRADE CONSUMERS. [01:24:20] CAN YOU EXPAND UPON THAT AND WHAT YOU ROW IN THE PC? [01:24:22] GUEST: SURE, THAT APPLIES SPECIFICALLY TO CANADIAN [01:24:26] TARIFFS. [01:24:29] THE TARIFFS ON CHINA DO HIT CONSUMERS. [01:24:33] THE COSTS, ELEVATED COSTS OF [01:24:35] THOSE GOODS MORE QUICKLY AND MORE HEAVILY SHOWS UP FOR [01:24:39] CONSUMERS. [01:24:40] IF YOU ARE BUYING A RATE DEAL [01:24:44] FROM CHINA, IT'S A FINISHED PRODUCT AND THE PRICE GETS PASSED ON. [01:24:49] WITH CANADA, IT IS WHEAT AND OIL. [01:24:51] IT REDUCES CROPS. [01:24:54] YOU DON'T SEE THE COST THAT IS [01:24:57] HEAVILY FROM CANADA. [01:24:59] OUR FOCUS HAS BEEN LOOKING AT [01:25:02] THIS FROM THE GRASSROOTS. WE HAVE DONE A DEEP, DEEP DIVE, [01:25:06] STARTING IN COLORADO WITH IDEATION WORK. [01:25:11] AND WE WERE JUST IN DENVER TWO [01:25:13] WEEKS AGO, INTERVIEWING COMMUNITY ACTIVISTS, BUSINESS [01:25:17] LEADERS. THIS IS NOT THE TYPICAL WAY THE [01:25:19] WORK IS DONE FROM THE ELITE OR TOP-DOWN. [01:25:22] WE ARE STARTING FROM THE BOTTOM IN THE U.S.. [01:25:24] AND LOOKING FOR IMPACTS. [01:25:29] OUR TAKE AND WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU [01:25:31] NORMALLY HEAR INSIDE THE POLICY [01:25:36] GENERATION CIRCLES, INSIDE WASHINGTON, D.C. [01:25:38] HOST: THAT'S AN INTERESTING PERSPECTIVE. [01:25:41] WE ARE SPEAKING WITH CARLO DADE, THE DIRECTOR OF INTERNATIONAL [01:25:44] POLICY FOR THE NEW NORTH AMERICA INITIATIVE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CALGARY. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE IMPACTS [01:25:49] OF THIS NEW TRADE WAR BETWEEN THE U.S. AND CANADA. IF YOU WANT TO CALL IN AND ASK [01:25:53] HIM A QUESTION OR SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS, WE WELCOME THAT. WE WILL PUT THE PHONE LINES UP [01:25:57] ON SCREEN. WE'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT THIS THIS MORNING. [01:26:01] I NOTICED THIS STORY FROM A LOCAL PAPER IN MAINE, ONE OF THE BORDER STATES WITH CANADA. [01:26:05] THE OUTGOING DEMOCRATIC [01:26:09] CONGRESSMAN, JARED GOLDEN, ARGUABLY ONE OF THE MOST CONSERVATIVE DEMOCRATS IN [01:26:13] CONGRESS SPOKE TO HIS LOCAL PAPER AND SAID IT WON'T GO WELL [01:26:15] FOR THEM, THE HEADLINE IS JARED [01:26:17] GOLDEN STICKS WITH TRUMP IN CANADA TERROR FIGHT. [01:26:22] HE'S NOT SEEKING REELECTION AND [01:26:23] HAS BACK TRUMPS AGGRESSIVE [01:26:29] TARIFF ACTIONS. HE ESSENTIALLY SAID, SPEAKING TO HIS CANADIAN NEIGHBORS, THIS WON'T GO WELL FOR YOU BECAUSE [01:26:33] YOU RELY ON US MORE THAN WE RELY ON YOU. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? [01:26:38] GUEST: IN THE MOST PLAIN AND [01:26:42] OBVIOUS SENSE, NOT PICKING ANY [01:26:45] NUANCE OR DEPTH TO IT, OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN THE SIZE OF THE ECONOMIES. [01:26:50] EVERYONE CAN SEE THAT. [01:26:52] POPULATION, MILITARY POWER, ETC., ETC.. [01:26:54] BUT I THINK IN TERMS OF THE DEEPER INTEGRATION, IT'S NOT JUST TRADE. [01:27:03] WE RELY ON HELP FROM CANADA. [01:27:06] I KNOW THAT -- [01:27:10] OUT WEST, WE FIGHT FIRES TOGETHER. [01:27:13] WE JUST LOST A CANADIAN. A CANADIAN GAVE HIS LIFE [01:27:17] FIGHTING THE FIRES IN COLORADO. [01:27:19] SO, ON THE ISSUES THAT MATTER [01:27:22] MOST DIRECTLY TO PEOPLE THAT IMPACT THEIR LIVES, THERE ARE [01:27:26] IMPACTS FROM CANADA. WE ARE THE ONLY ONE THAT'S GOING [01:27:29] TO HELP YOU WITH SOME OF THE ISSUES. [01:27:33] THE LONG-TERM DROUGHT, DEALING [01:27:33] WITH MANAGEMENT OF THE [01:27:37] ENVIRONMENT IN THE WEST. AGRICULTURAL TRADE, PROTECTING [01:27:40] THE AGRICULTURAL INTEGRITY OF BEEF, LIVESTOCK IN NORTH AMERICA. [01:27:44] WE ARE A CRITICAL PARTNER. [01:27:48] YOU CAN'T GROW CROPS IN THE U.S. [01:27:52] WITHOUT IT. WE IMPORT 80 SOMETHING PERCENT OF IT. [01:27:55] ANOTHER 80% OF THAT COMES FROM [01:27:59] CANADA. THERE ARE WAYS THAT ARE MORE [01:28:02] SUBTLE THAN THE CONGRESSMAN'S [01:28:09] STATEMENT. IN THE END, NO ONE WINS FROM THIS, NO ONE BENEFITS. [01:28:12] THE LONGER TERM DAY IN AND DAY [01:28:17] OUT REALITY, I THINK AMERICANS KNOW THIS, THE DAY IN AND DAY [01:28:19] OUT REALITY IS YOU NEED A FRIEND [01:28:24] ON YOUR NORTHERN BORDER, NOT AN ADVERSARY. [01:28:26] WE HAVE BENEFITED FROM A [01:28:29] RELATIONSHIP AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE ARE THROWING THAT AWAY. [01:28:31] HOST: WE HAVE A CALLER FROM [01:28:35] VANCOUVER, CANADA CALLING IN. RODRICK. WE WILL SEE WHAT HE HAS TO SAY. [01:28:38] YOU'RE ON WITH OUR GUEST. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? [01:28:40] CALLER: GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. [01:28:46] THIS IS DIRECTED TO YOUR GUEST. [01:28:48] YOUR WORK RELATING TO TRADE [01:28:53] BETWEEN CANADA AND THE UNITED [01:28:53] STATES, I'M SURE YOU ARE AWARE, [01:28:58] IS DIRECTLY CONNECTED TO THE GLOBAL ENVIRONMENT. [01:29:01] AND I'M WONDERING WHETHER YOU [01:29:03] WOULD AGREE THAT CANADA HAS A [01:29:08] ROLE TO PLAY IN PUSHING BACK [01:29:14] AGAINST ROGUE MISCONDUCT BY THE UNITED STATES. [01:29:17] FOR EXAMPLE, THE BLOCKADING OF OIL GOING INTO CUBA. [01:29:20] THE KIDNAPPING OF MADURO FROM [01:29:23] VENEZUELA, KILLING 200 PEOPLE AT THAT TIME IN THE OPERATION. [01:29:29] THE MURDERING OF PEOPLE IN THE [01:29:33] BOATS IN THE CARIBBEAN. THE INSTIGATING OF THE WAR IN UKRAINE. [01:29:37] THERE ARE TOO A TO NAME. [01:29:39] AND ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT [01:29:42] ONES, VERY RECENTLY, IS THE UNITED STATES'S ANNOUNCEMENT OF A WAR AGAINST THE INTERNATIONAL [01:29:46] CRIMINAL COURT, AND THE ESTABLISHMENT OF SANCTIONS [01:29:50] AGAINST ITS CHIEF JUDGE. [01:29:53] A CANADIAN JUDGE, KIMBERLY, A [01:29:59] JUDGE IN THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT WAS SANCTIONED BY [01:30:02] THE UNITED STATES ONE YEAR AGO. CANADA REMAINED SILENT. HAS NOT PUSHED BACK ONE BIT. [01:30:06] NOT A SINGLE WORD ABOUT THE [01:30:08] SANCTIONS AGAINST KIMBERLY FOST [01:30:11] OR THE CHIEF JUDGE OF THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT. [01:30:15] YET, AT THE SAME TIME, WE ARE [01:30:17] ASKING THE UNITED STATES TO BE A WITNESS. [01:30:21] WOULD YOU AGREE THAT THE UNITED STATES'S LEADERSHIP INVOLVING [01:30:25] TRADE NEGOTIATIONS VIEW US AS A DOORMAT? [01:30:29] OUR LEADERS ARE TOO GUTLESS TOOD [01:30:34] TO PUSH BACK PUBLICLY AGAINST THE UNITED STATES' MISCONDUCT ON [01:30:38] THE WORLD STAGE, SO THEY KNOW -- AMERICAN NEGOTIATORS -- THEY ARE [01:30:41] DEALING WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE NO BACKBONE, NO PRINCIPLES, SO WE [01:30:45] CAN WALK ALL OVER CANADA IN TRADE ISSUES AND NOT WORRY ABOUT [01:30:49] IT. DO YOU AGREE? [01:30:52] GUEST: SO, LET'S LOOK AT THE [01:30:56] PREMISE OF THE QUESTION. THE START WAS, CANADA'S ROLE [01:31:00] GLOBALLY IN THIS GLOBAL PHENOMENON. [01:31:03] YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT IN THE ANALYSIS OF THIS BEING A GLOBAL PHENOMENON. [01:31:07] I MENTIONED 22 COUNTRIES HAVE [01:31:10] HAD TRADE AGREEMENTS OVERWRITTEN [01:31:14] OR NEW AGREEMENTS ESSENTIALLY [01:31:16] IMPOSED IN NEGOTIATIONS BY THE AMERICANS. THIS IS A GLOBAL ISSUE BEYOND [01:31:20] JUST CANADA, AND HOW WE REACT AS [01:31:23] PART OF A GLOBAL RESPONSE. [01:31:29] IN CANADA WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE WHERE WE SPEND SCARCE FOREIGN RESOURCES. [01:31:34] WE'VE HAD MASSIVE BUDGET CUTS, AS HAVE MOST OTHER COUNTRIES, AT [01:31:38] THE FOREIGN MINISTRY. [01:31:38] THAT WEAKENS OUR CAPACITY. [01:31:44] WE ALSO HAVE TO FOCUS ON THOSE THINGS MOST IMPORTANT DAY IN AND [01:31:48] DAY OUT TO CANADIANS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. WHAT IMPACTS PEOPLE? [01:31:53] HOUSEHOLD BUDGETS. WHAT IMPACTS PEOPLE IN THEIR [01:32:11] COMMUNITIES. THAT PRIORITY IN CANADA NOW IS DEALING WITH THE UNITED STATES. WE ARE ALSO ENGAGING MASSIVELY IN EXPANDING OUR PRESENCE IN THE INDO PACIFIC. [01:32:15] WE MADE A GENERATIONAL COMMITMENT TO GROWING OUR RELATIONS, NOT JUST TRADE, BUT RELATIONS AND INDO PACIFIC. THOSE TAKE MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF RESOURCES. [01:32:18] YOU CAN'T BE EVERYPLACE AT ONCE DOING EVERYTHING. WE HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN THE HUMAN [01:32:22] RIGHTS AND OTHER ELEMENTS THAT ARE TRADITIONAL ELEMENTS OF [01:32:25] CANADIAN POLICY, BUT IN THE CURRENT MOMENT, CURRENT PRICES, [01:32:29] WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON WHAT IS MOST [01:32:31] IMPORTANT FOR CANADIANS, THE [01:32:35] MARITIMES THROUGH THE PRAIRIES, AND THAT IS DEALING WITH THE UNITED STATES. [01:32:38] HOST: RODERICK, THANK YOU FOR [01:32:42] CALLING IN. JOHN FROM FRANKLIN CAP NORTH CAROLINA ON THE DEMOCRATIC LINE. [01:32:48] JOHN, YOU'RE ON WITH OUR GUEST. [01:32:49] CALLER: I WAS JUST THINKING, WHY [01:32:52] WOULD CANADA WANT TO DEAL WITH A [01:32:55] CORRUPT GOVERNMENT TO TRADE WITH ANYWAY? [01:32:58] WHY WOULD ANYBODY WANT TO? [01:33:02] I HOPE THEY STICK TO THEIR GUNS [01:33:03] AND DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO SHOW [01:33:07] TRUMP AND HIS GOVERNMENT, HIS [01:33:12] CORRUPT GOVERNMENT, THAT THEY AREN'T GOING TO TAKE WHAT HE'S DISHING OUT. THAT'S ABOUT ALL. [01:33:16] HOST: CARLO, LET'S EXPAND ON [01:33:20] THAT. YOU HAD AN INTERESTING PIECE PUBLISHED LAST MONTH BEFORE THE [01:33:24] TRADE WERE EXPANDED IN THIS WAY [01:33:25] WITH THE HEADLINE, "TRUMP'S NEW [01:33:29] TARIFFS ARE DESIGNED TO TEAR [01:33:31] CANADA APART: WASHINGTON CAN NOW REWARD SOME PROVINCES AND PUNISH OTHERS. [01:33:36] THE POLITICAL DANGER MAY BE CONSIDERABLE." SINCE LATE JULY [01:33:39] DO YOU FEEL THERE HAS BEEN A UNITING FACTION ACROSS CANADA [01:33:43] CAP OR IS THIS PROVINCE BY [01:33:46] PROVINCE DEBATE PLAYING UP TO THAT COLORS POINT TO FIGURE OUT [01:33:48] HOW MUCH TO DABBLE WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP? [01:33:52] GUEST: THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION [01:33:56] THAT HIGHLIGHTS THE UNIQUE NATION OF CANADA'S CHALLENGE WITH THE U.S.. [01:33:59] I MENTIONED TO 22 OTHER COUNTRIES THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS. [01:34:03] IN THE CANADIAN CASE THE [01:34:05] AMERICANS UNIQUELY DECIDED TO [01:34:07] USE SECTION 338 TARIFFS THE [01:34:11] 1930'S PROVISION. [01:34:15] WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT THIS [01:34:17] PROVISION AS OPPOSED TO IEEPA [01:34:21] WHICH THE SUPREME COURT STRUCK [01:34:24] DOWN AND NATIONAL SECURITY TARIFFS, WHAT IS DIFFERENT ABOUT [01:34:28] 338 IS THERE IS EXPLICIT [01:34:30] LANGUAGE ALLOWING A PRESIDENT TO [01:34:34] TARGET SOME NATURAL JURISDICTIONS IN THE AMERICAN [01:34:37] CASE THAT WOULD BE STATES AND THE CANADIAN CASE PROVINCES. [01:34:45] MOST OF YOUR LISTENERS KNOW THERE HAS BEEN A SEPARATISM IN QUEBEC. [01:34:49] WE HAVE SEPARATIST TENDENCIES IN [01:34:52] WESTERN CANADA AS WELL. [01:34:56] WE ARE FRAUGHT AS A NATION IN [01:35:01] TERMS OF REGIONAL TENSIONS. IF THE PRESIDENT HAS THE ABILITY [01:35:04] TO REWARD ONE PROVINCE AND [01:35:06] PUNISH ANOTHER THE INHERENT [01:35:09] TENSION WITHIN CANADA CAN BE [01:35:14] WORSENED BY A PRESIDENT SEEKING [01:35:14] TO PLAY ONE PROVINCE AGAINST THE OTHER. [01:35:18] NOVA SCOTIA, IF YOU PUT CANADIAN [01:35:21] LIQUOR BACK ON THE SHELVES, WILL [01:35:27] ALLOWED NOVA SCOTIA 1 -- YES, WE PRODUCE WINE IN NOVA [01:35:31] SCOTIA -- WILL ALLOW YOUR WINE [01:35:34] TO COME IN. BRITISH COLUMBIA, YOU ARE NOT [01:35:37] BEHAVING, LIQUOR OFF THE SHELVES, WE WILL TEAR A FEW 50%, [01:35:41] I THINK YOUR LISTENERS CAN IMAGINE HOW THAT COULD PLAY ONE [01:35:44] STATE AGAINST THE OTHER. [01:35:47] IN THE U.S., CALIFORNIA VERSUS TEXAS. [01:35:52] NORTH CAROLINA VERSUS NEW YORK. THIS IS A UNIQUE CHALLENGE ONLY [01:35:56] CANADA FACES FROM THE U.S.. WE ARE DEEPLY DEEPLY WORRIED ABOUT THIS. [01:36:02] WE CONDUCTED WORKING CANADA [01:36:05] TESTING RESPONSES TO THIS, WHAT WE SHOULD DO IN RESPONSE. [01:36:07] THE THREAT FROM THE U.S. IS [01:36:11] NUANCED AND DEEP. HOST: THAT'S A HELPFUL BREAKDOWN. [01:36:15] WE HAD A CALL CALLER BEFORE YOU ARE ON ASK HOW PRESIDENT TRUMP [01:36:19] IS ABLE TO ISSUE THESE TARIFFS BECAUSE THEY BROUGHT UP THE [01:36:23] SUPREME COURT CASE. [01:36:30] THE SUPREME COURT TALKING ABOUT THE IE FOR TARIFFS, SECOND EMERGENCY ACT, MULTIPLE TARIFF [01:36:32] TOOLS THE U.S. PRESIDENT CAN USE [01:36:34] AND HENCE DEPLOYING THEM AGAINST CANADA SEPARATE FROM WHAT THE [01:36:37] SUPREME COURT STRUCK DOWN. WE HAVE A FEW MORE WHO WANT TO [01:36:41] PICK YOUR BRAIN. STEPHEN FREDERICKSBURG ON THE INDEPENDENT LINE. [01:36:45] YOU'RE ON WITH OUR GUEST, CARLO. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [01:36:48] I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH THIS [01:36:52] CONVERSATION AND I AM JOINING A BIT LATE. [01:36:55] I JUST SPENT THE WEEK IN ONTARIO [01:37:00] THROUGH PART OF THE PROVINCE AND [01:37:00] I WAS STRUCK -- I WAS STRUCK BY [01:37:05] THE FRIENDLINESS AND THE [01:37:07] CLOSENESS AND IT TOLD ME HOW [01:37:11] STRONGLY OUR RELATIONSHIPS HAVE BEEN OVER THE DECADES. I WILL BE HONEST. [01:37:15] I FEEL BAD ABOUT HOW WE HAVE BEEN TREATING CANADA, THE LACK [01:37:18] OF RESPECT WE SHOWN. [01:37:22] I DID ALSO CAPTURE WHAT YOU WERE JUST PICKING UP. [01:37:24] YOU WERE JUST PICKING UP, SIR, [01:37:27] ABOUT THE ROLE OF THE DIFFERENT [01:37:31] PROVINCES AND HOW, YOU KNOW, THE [01:37:35] ATTEMPT TO PLAY OFF ONE TO THE OTHER -- I WAS STRUCK BY THE [01:37:38] TEAM CANADA MANTRA IT WAS [01:37:44] PUSHING. I WAS LISTENING TO THE PREMIER [01:37:45] FROM MANITOBA REGARDING ALCOHOL. [01:37:49] HIS COMMENT, LET THE DUST GROW [01:37:55] ON THE SHELVES OF AMERICAN ALCOHOL, IF IT WERE TO COME BACK [01:37:58] ON BEFORE THIS LATEST BREAKDOWN. [01:38:03] SHOULD YOU SEE THAT KIND OF TEAM [01:38:07] CANADA CONTINUOUS THE U.S. DOES TRY TO APPROACH THIS STRATEGY, [01:38:10] AS YOU'VE MENTIONED, OF TRYING [01:38:13] TO, KIND OF, TEAR CANADA APART, PITTING ONE AGAINST THE OTHER. [01:38:17] DO YOU NOW SEE CANADA REALLY [01:38:19] THINKING MORE STRATEGICALLY AS [01:38:23] TO THE U.S. POLITICAL SITUATION IN WHICH CERTAIN STATES ARE [01:38:26] VULNERABLE WITH HIGHER PRICES, [01:38:29] ETC., WITH OUR MIDTERMS COMING UP? THANK YOU. [01:38:31] GUEST: RIGHT. [01:38:35] IN TERMS OF TARIFF POLICY, I THINK EVERY COUNTRY IS DOING [01:38:38] WHAT CANADA IS DOING. IT'S THE STANDARD PLAYBOOK WHEN [01:38:41] DEALING WITH THE U.S. ON ECONOMIC ISSUES WHEN THE U.S. [01:38:45] HAS IMPOSED TARIFFS OR CHARGES. YOU TARGET HARLEY-DAVIDSON'S, [01:38:48] YOU TARGET SOMETHING DIFFICULT [01:38:53] FOR US TO DO IN ALBERTA -- YOU TARGET PRODUCTS WITH CERTAIN [01:38:58] STATES, CERTAIN CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS. [01:39:02] THAT WILL CONTINUE. IT HAS BEEN STANDARD. I WILL NOT CANADA IS THE ONLY [01:39:05] COUNTRY -- WELL, ONE OF TWO [01:39:09] COUNTRIES ABLE TO RETALIATE AGAINST THE U.S.. THE OTHER BEING CHINA. [01:39:14] WE'VE TAKEN AN EXTRA SPECIAL HIT FROM THE U.S. BECAUSE WE HAVE [01:39:21] RETALIATED. THE LAST TIME I WAS AT USTR IN WASHINGTON THE FIRST THING THEY SAID TO ME AFTER GOOD MORNING [01:39:25] WAS, YOU DO KNOW THAT ONLY TWO COUNTRIES HAVE DARED TO [01:39:29] RETALIATE AND BOTH BEGIN WITH A C. [01:39:32] THE IMPLICATION IS THEY CAN'T DO MUCH ABOUT CHINA, BUT A SMALLER [01:39:35] ECONOMY LIKE CANADA THEY CAN. WE ARE GEARING UP. [01:39:40] THIS IS PARTIALLY WHY YOU ARE SEEING THE HARSHER TREATMENT FOR CANADA. [01:39:46] SOFTWARE JAPAN, ARGENTINA, KOREA, THE U.K., BECAUSE EXPAND, [01:39:50] THE OTHER COUNTRIES THAT THE U.S. FORCED TO SIGN AGREEMENTS. [01:39:54] ON THE PROVINCES I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR AMERICAN AUDIENCES [01:39:56] TO UNDERSTAND THAT CANADIAN [01:40:01] PROVINCES AREN'T U.S. STATES. IN MANY WAYS CANADA IS MORE THE [01:40:05] UNITED EMIRATES OF CANADA THEN [01:40:11] IT IS THE FEDERATION. PROVINCES HAVE EXTRAORDINARY [01:40:14] POWERS OVER THINGS THAT IMPACT TRADE. [01:40:18] WORK TOOLS, GOVERNMENT [01:40:19] PROCUREMENT, LIQUOR ON SHELVES. [01:40:23] THERE ARE WAYS THE PROVINCES PLAY A ROLE THAT IS VERY, VERY [01:40:27] DIFFERENT THAN U.S. STATES. [01:40:30] ON ONE HAND IT ALLOWS MORE LOCAL CONTROL. [01:40:32] ON THE OTHER HAND, WELL, IT [01:40:35] ALLOWS PROVINCES TO GO ROGUE. WE ARE ALWAYS TRYING TO MANAGE [01:40:39] THAT TENSION. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE ARE GOING TO [01:40:42] DEAL WITH THIS. CURRENTLY, TARIFFS FROM THE [01:40:46] U.S., SECTION 232 TARIFFS, [01:40:49] STEEL, ALUMINUM, NATIONAL [01:40:50] SECURITY TARIFFS, 60% OF WHAT [01:40:54] ONTARIO AND QUEBEC EXPORT TO THE [01:40:57] U.S., 60% BY VALUE, ARE SUBJECT TO TARIFFS. OUT HERE IN THE PRAIRIES OF [01:41:05] ALBERTA AND SASKATCHEWAN, AND LESS THAN 5% OF WHAT WE EXPORT. [01:41:12] NEWFOUNDLAND LESS THAN 1%. [01:41:13] YOU HAVE THIS REALLY DESPERATE [01:41:16] ECONOMIC IMPACT ALREADY ON THE [01:41:20] PROVINCES. THAT CREATES A BASELINE TENSION [01:41:23] AS SOME PROVINCES SUFFER AND OTHERS DON'T. [01:41:26] SO WE ALL ALREADY IN A WEAK POSITION TO BEGIN WITH. [01:41:29] AND THIS 338 SECTION ON TOP OF [01:41:31] IT POSES A REAL THREAT. [01:41:34] WHY YOU WOULD WANT TO [01:41:39] DESTABILIZE YOUR NEIGHBOR, WHO FOUGHT SHOULDER TO SHOULDER WITH [01:41:42] YOU IN AFGHANISTAN -- I [01:41:44] MENTIONED AT CANADIAN [01:41:47] FIREFIGHTER HELICOPTER PILOT WHO LOST HIS LIFE FIGHTING FIRES IN [01:41:51] COLORADO -- THAT'S REALLY CAUSING PROBLEMS APPEAR, AS YOU [01:41:53] CAN WELL IMAGINE. -- UP HERE, AS [01:41:57] YOU CAN WELL HOST: IMAGINE. HOST:THANK YOU FOR THAT CALL, [01:42:01] ESPECIALLY HAVING TO TRAVEL TO CANADA. WE HAVE A GRAPHIC I WANT TO PUT ON SCREEN. [01:42:06] THE FIRST OVERALL IS A BREAKDOWN FROM THE ASSOCIATED PRESS. [01:42:09] THE NEW TRADE WAR, U.S. TARIFFS [01:42:11] ON CANADA, 50% ON ABOUT $20 BILLION WORTH OF GOODS. [01:42:15] THE INITIAL ROUND WAS IMPLEMENTED AUGUST 22. [01:42:18] THE NEXT PHASE PRESIDENT TRUMP ANNOUNCED WHICH TARGETS THINGS [01:42:21] MORE LIKE CAR PARTS GOES INTO EFFECT JANUARY 1, 2027. [01:42:25] THEN WE HAVE THIS BREAKDOWN FROM U.S. TRADE REPS OFFICE OF TOP [01:42:29] U.S. IMPORTS FROM CANADA. YOU CAN SEE THIS IS A BIG TRADING RELATIONSHIP. [01:42:33] 100 $19 BILLION FOR MINERAL FUELS AND OILS. [01:42:38] 45.8 BILLION DOLLARS FOR VEHICLES AND PARTS. [01:42:41] 30 POINT $1 BILLION FOR MACHINERY AND EQUIPMENT. [01:42:44] $12.8 BILLION FOR PLASTICS. 10.2 BILLION DOLLARS FOR LUMBER. [01:42:50] FROM LONG GROVE, ILLINOIS, SHE [01:42:52] SAYS WHAT IS MR. DADE'S VIEW OF THE PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT [01:42:56] CANADA HAS GIVEN TO OTHER COUNTRIES? [01:42:57] GUEST: SURE. [01:43:02] PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT IS STANDARD INTERNATIONALLY. THE U.S. HAS AGREEMENTS -- I [01:43:05] FORGET HOW MANY -- BUT [01:43:09] AGREEMENTS WHERE YOU GIVE PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT OTHER COUNTRIES. IT'S CALLED TRADE AGREEMENTS, [01:43:19] ESSENTIALLY. I THINK LISTENERS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE U.S. HAVING TRADE AGREEMENTS AND OTHER COUNTRIES HAVING TRADE AGREEMENTS. [01:43:22] WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS TO THE BENEFIT OF CANADIANS AND THE [01:43:25] COUNTRIES WITH WHOM WE TRADE. IT'S NOT SURPRISING. [01:43:29] WHAT HAS OCCURRED RECENTLY, THE [01:43:31] U.S. HAS ATTEMPTED TO HAVE A SAY IN NOT JUST OF THE AGREEMENTS [01:43:35] THAT CANADA CAN SIGN, BUT AGAIN [01:43:37] -- I KEEP MENTIONING THE 22 OTHER COUNTRIES THAT PRECEDED US [01:43:41] IN DOING THIS WITH THE U.S. -- [01:43:43] IT HAS HAD -- IT HAS FORCED [01:43:47] THESE COUNTRIES TO ACCEPT U.S. [01:43:49] VETOES, U.S. INFLUENCE, OR U.S. [01:43:52] DIRECTION AND AGREEMENTS THAT SOVEREIGN COUNTRIES CONSIGNED [01:43:57] WITH OTHER COUNTRIES. ESSENTIALLY, THEY ARE FORCING [01:44:00] OTHER COUNTRIES TO ALIGN WITH U.S. DEFINITIONS OF U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY. [01:44:05] THIS WAS THE CASE IN THE DEAL THE U.S. SIGNED WITH MALAYSIA. [01:44:09] OBVIOUSLY, YOU CAN SEE HOW THIS IS A PROBLEM FOR INDEPENDENT, [01:44:13] SOVEREIGN NATIONS TO BE ABLE TO [01:44:18] TAKE THE U.S. HAVING ANYWHERE [01:44:18] FROM A SAY TO A NUDGE, TO WHAT [01:44:24] SOME PERCEIVE TO BE A VETO OVER TRADE POLICY. [01:44:30] IT ACTUALLY STARTED UNDER THE [01:44:32] CURRENT USMCA AGREEMENT WHERE WE AGREED WITH THE AMERICANS THAT [01:44:35] WE WOULD SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT [01:44:39] NEGOTIATIONS WITH NONMARKET COUNTRIES, BY WHICH OF THE U.S. [01:44:42] MINT VIETNAM AND CHINA -- MEANT [01:44:49] VIETNAM AND CHINA. WE AGREED ON USMCA TO SHARE [01:44:53] INFORMATION AND ESSENTIALLY NOT SIGNED WITH NONMARKET COUNTRIES. [01:44:57] BUT FIVE MINUTES AFTER THE INK [01:45:02] DRIED ON USMCA THE TRUMP [01:45:05] ADMINISTRATION, THE FIRST TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, TURNED AROUND AND ASSIGNED A TRADE AGREEMENT [01:45:08] WITH CHINA THAT TOOK MARKET SHARE FROM CANADIAN FARMERS. [01:45:12] THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS A STORY THAT'S NOT WELL [01:45:16] KNOWN IN THE U.S., BUT THIS [01:45:19] POINTS TO THE UNDERLYING RESENTMENT AND INABILITY TO TRUST THE U.S. [01:45:23] WE OF COURSE HAVE NOTE CHOICE [01:45:26] BUT TO WORK WITH THE U.S. -- NO CHOICE BUT TO WORK WITH THE U.S.. [01:45:29] YOU ARE OUR NEIGHBOR. [01:45:31] 75% OF OUR EXPORTS GO TO YOU. [01:45:34] WE HAVE DEEP, DEEP FAMILY TIES, [01:45:37] HISTORICAL TIES, ETC.. WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO WORK [01:45:40] WITH YOU, BUT IS EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY DIFFICULT. [01:45:43] I THINK THE STORIES THAT DON'T [01:45:44] MAKE THE NEWS, LIKE STABBING US [01:45:47] IN THE BACK OR MORE LIKE [01:45:50] SHIVVING US IN THE PRISON [01:45:55] EXERCISE YARD WITH CHINA IS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THIS HAS BECOME. [01:45:57] HOST: THE OVERALL FIGURE 75% OF [01:46:01] YOUR EXPERTS COME INTO THE U.S. IS NOTABLE, THREE QUARTERS. [01:46:05] LET'S HEAR FROM A COUPLE MORE CALLERS. ERIC FROM MINNESOTA ON THE [01:46:09] DEMOCRATIC LINE. ERIC, YOU'RE ARE ON WITH OUR GUEST. [01:46:10] CALLER: YES. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT [01:46:16] THE PROBLEM IN THIS BIG WORLD IS [01:46:19] THAT WE ARE AT A KEY JUNCTURE [01:46:20] WITH OUR ENERGY REQUIREMENT. [01:46:24] AND FOR TRUMP IT IS ALL OIL ALL THE TIME. [01:46:27] HE IS TRYING TO GET MEMBERSHIP INTO THE BIG CARTELS. [01:46:31] TO DO THAT HE'S GOT TO TAKE OIL. [01:46:34] AND THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING OF WHAT WILL BE CALLED IN [01:46:38] HISTORY THE OIL WARS. IF WE GO DOWN THE TRAIL [01:46:41] EXCLUSIVELY THERE WILL BE BLOOD ON THE TRAIL. [01:46:44] AND IF WE ARE A BIG COUNTRY WITH [01:46:46] BIG ARMS, WE WILL TAKE AND TAKE AND TAKE. [01:46:49] AND WE'VE DONE IT TO VENEZUELA. WE ARE DOING IT TO IRAN. [01:46:53] HE'S NOT TELLING US WHY HE'S IN IRAN, BUT 10% OF THE OIL [01:46:57] RESERVES ARE IN THAT COUNTRY. HE'S GOING FOR THEM. [01:47:01] THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE IS TO GO -- YOU KNOW, TRY TO GO GREEN. [01:47:05] CHINA IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE COUNTRY WHICH PLAYS BOTH CARDS. [01:47:09] THEY ARE DEVELOPING THEIR EAT [01:47:12] -- THEIR E-CARS AND [01:47:19] ALTERNATIVE ENERGY. WE HEAR ABOUT IT. IN OUR COUNTRY TRUMP HAS NOT [01:47:22] ONLY GONE ALL OIL HE HAS CANCELED ALL GREEN. [01:47:25] CANCELED THE CLEAN AIR [01:47:27] INITIATIVE, CLEAN WATER INITIATIVE, EVERYTHING THAT [01:47:31] WOULD PURSUE ALTERNATIVE ENERGY ACROSS THE BOARD. [01:47:34] AND CANADA IS IN THE GUNSIGHT OF [01:47:39] THAT BECAUSE CANADA HAS OFFERED US SOME OIL, BUT PRINCIPALLY THEY ARE A COUNTRY WHICH COULD [01:47:43] PLAY GREEN VERY WELL. [01:47:46] THEY HAVE GREEN MOUNTAINS AND SKI AREAS AND SUCH. [01:47:50] IT'S ALL ABOUT WHICH WAY WE GO IN THE WORLD. [01:47:53] DO WE GO ALL OIL, ALL IN? [01:47:56] IF WE ARE WE HAVE TO BE ARMED TO THE TEETH BECAUSE WE WILL TAKE [01:47:59] MORE AS WE NEED IT. IF WE GO GREEN, EACH COUNTRY CAN [01:48:03] PRODUCE ALL AROUND THE WORLD. [01:48:05] IT CAN BE LITTLE ENGINES OF [01:48:10] DEVELOPMENT OF GREEN RACING TO DO THE BEST GREEN. THAT'S THE WAY WE NEED TO GO. [01:48:14] TRUMP IS A MAD MAN FUELED BY PUTIN AND THE CARTELS AND THEY [01:48:17] ARE INSTRUCTING HIM ON HOW YOU [01:48:20] BECOME THE PATIENTS AND GO FOR [01:48:23] OIL ALL THE TIME WITH BLOODTHIRSTY INTENT. THANK YOU. [01:48:26] HOST: WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT ARGUMENT? [01:48:30] HE CLEARLY WAS NOT A FAN OF PRESIDENT TRUMP, BUT HOW DO YOU [01:48:33] FACTOR OIL INTO THIS BROADER TRADE CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE [01:48:37] U.S. AND CANADA AND THE LONG STANDING RELATIONSHIP? [01:48:40] GUEST: IT'S INTERESTING. [01:48:41] BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY ALBERTA IS AN OIL PRODUCER. [01:48:45] MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF OIL. IT GOES TO THE U.S.. [01:48:49] WE ARE THE LARGEST SUPPLIER FOR [01:48:52] I THINK ONE OR TWO OF YOUR PETROLEUM AREA RESERVES. [01:48:56] YOU GET 100% OF THE OIL FOR THOSE RESERVES FROM CANADA. [01:49:00] SO IT'S OBVIOUSLY A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE. [01:49:04] WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT IT THOUGH IS OUT HERE IN THE WEST [01:49:07] THE TIES IN THE MOUNTAIN WEST, [01:49:09] THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS, GO BEYOND OIL. [01:49:12] EVEN THOUGH IT'S OUR LARGEST EXPORT. [01:49:15] WHAT LINKS US WITH THE AMERICAN MOUNTAIN WEST AND THE AMERICAN [01:49:20] PRAIRIES IS NOT OIL, REALLY. [01:49:24] IT'S EVERYTHING ELSE WE DO IN COMMON. THINGS THAT TOUCH PEOPLE EVERY DAY. [01:49:29] I MENTIONED DEALING WITH FOREST FIRES, AGRICULTURAL ISSUES, [01:49:33] HEALING THE URBAN/RURAL DIVIDE [01:49:35] IS AN ISSUE THAT WE UNIQUELY SHARE BETWEEN CANADA AND THE [01:49:38] U.S., CERTAINLY IN ITS WESTERN [01:49:43] MANIFESTATION. OIL IS THERE, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK [01:49:45] BEYOND OIL YOU SEE SO MUCH MORE. [01:49:48] ON CLEAN ENERGY, THIS IS A GLOBAL CHALLENGE. [01:49:52] WE ARE WORKING ON ENERGY TRANSITION IN CANADA. [01:49:55] HERE IN ALBERTA, EVEN THOUGH WE [01:49:56] PRODUCE SO MUCH OIL, WE HAVE THE [01:50:00] HIGHEST PER CAPITA PRESENCE OF WIND POWER I THINK IN NORTH AMERICA. [01:50:03] WE HAVE LOST AN ALLY IN THE [01:50:04] CLEAN ENERGY DEVELOPMENT FIGHT [01:50:10] GLOBALLY WITH THE U.S.. WE USED TO HAVE AN ALLY. [01:50:13] THIS IS HOW WE WERE GOING TO GROW THE INDUSTRY TOGETHER. [01:50:17] YOU ARE FORCING PEOPLE TO LOOK [01:50:18] TO CHINA TO DEVELOP CLEAN [01:50:23] ENERGY. THOSE COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD THAT LOOKED TO THE U.S. FOR [01:50:27] LEADERSHIP IN THE ENERGY TRANSITION ARE NOW FACED WITH THE CHOICE OF TRYING TO GO IT [01:50:31] ALONE, WORKING TOGETHER, OR, [01:50:34] POTENTIALLY, WORKING WITH CHINA. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY THE [01:50:37] U.S. HAS MADE IT TO WHERE YOU REALLY HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO DEAL WITH CHINA. [01:50:41] THE ONLY QUESTION IS, DO YOU DO IT A LOT OR DO YOU DO THE BARE [01:50:45] MINIMUM? WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE DEALING [01:50:47] WITH CHINA, THERE REALLY ISN'T A CHOICE. [01:50:51] THAT IS THANKS, I WOULD ARGUE, LARGELY TO POSITIONS THE U.S. [01:50:55] GOVERNMENT HAS TAKEN RECENTLY. HOST: CARLO DADE IS THE DIRECTOR [01:50:59] OF INTERNATIONAL POLICY FOR THE [01:51:02] NEW NORTH AMERICAN INITIATIVE THE UNIVERSITY OF CALGARY. CARLO, THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR INSIGHT. [01:51:08] GUEST: MY PLEASURE. HOST: THANKS TO EVERYONE CALLING IN. [01:51:12] IT'S A FASCINATING TOPIC PLAYING OUT IN REAL TIME. WE WILL TAKE A QUICK BREAK BUT [01:51:15] STICK AROUND BECAUSE WE WILL RETURN WITH OPEN FORUM RIGHT AFTER THE BREAK AND AFTER THAT [01:51:19] WE WILL TALK ABOUT ANOTHER [01:51:20] ASPECT OF TRADE, BEEF IMPORTS. [01:51:24] OLIVIA BRIDGES FROM THE OUTLET AGRI-PULSE WILL JOIN US. [01:51:27] A LOT OF FARMERS AND RANCHERS ARE FRUSTRATED WITH THE MOVE PRESIDENT TRUMP MADE THIS WEEK [01:51:30] SO WE WILL DIVE INTO THAT. THERE ARE THE NUMBERS TO CALL [01:51:34] IN. WE WILL RETURN SOON TO OPEN FORUM. ♪ [01:51:40] >> WATCH AMERICA'S BOOK CLUB, [01:51:45] C-SPAN'S BOLD, ORIGINAL SERIES, [01:51:47] SUNDAY WITH OUR GUEST, AWARD-WINNING GLOBAL NUMBER ONE [01:51:51] BEST-SELLING AUTHOR DAVID BALDACCI. [01:51:55] HIS THRILLERS HAVE SOLD WORLDWIDE, PUBLISHED IN OVER 45 [01:51:59] LANGUAGES AND MORE THAN 80 COUNTRIES. [01:52:01] HE JOINS OUR HOST, RENOWNED AUTHOR AND CIVIC LEADER, DAVID [01:52:05] RUBENSTEIN. [01:52:06] >> SO, WHEN YOU'RE WRITING, DO [01:52:10] EVER SAY TO YOURSELF, DO EVER [01:52:13] DAYDREAM, DO YOU EVER LOSE YOUR TRAIN OF THOUGHT, OR ARE YOU [01:52:17] JUST TUNNEL VISION ON WHAT YOU ARE WRITING? [01:52:19] >> I DO BOTH AT THE SAME TIME. [01:52:22] I TUNNEL VISION AND LET MY IMAGINATION RUN. [01:52:25] I'VE FOUND WHEN I TRY TO KEEP MY IMAGINATION AND CHECK I MISS OPPORTUNITIES. [01:52:28] I DON'T WANT TO MISS OPPORTUNITIES. [01:52:30] PEOPLE ASK, WHERE DO I GET MY IDEAS FROM? [01:52:33] I GET UP EVERY DAY, WALK OUT THE DOOR, AND I SEE WHAT'S IN FRONT OF ME. [01:52:37] I'M NOT LOOKING AT MY IPHONE. I'M LOOKING AT PEOPLE. [01:52:41] I'VE GOTTEN IDEAS FOR PLOT POINTS BY JUST WALKING DOWN THE STREET AND SEE TWO PEOPLE [01:52:44] TALKING AND I'M WONDERING, WHAT ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT? [01:52:47] MAYBE I CAN ANSWER THAT MYSELF. [01:52:49] OR I SEE WITH THE GUY WITH A BOX ON A BUS. [01:52:53] I WONDER WHAT'S IN THE BOX AND WHERE IS THE BEST GOING WITH THE GUY? [01:52:56] ALL HAVE A STORY IDEA. THE IDEAS ARE ALL AROUND YOU ALL THE TIME. [01:52:59] IT'S JUST YOU ARE NOT RECEPTIVE TO SEEING THE OPPORTUNITIES. [01:53:03] ONCE YOU DO THINK ABOUT SEIZING THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, ALL OF A [01:53:06] SUDDEN YOU WILL HAVE TOO MANY IDEAS. [01:53:08] TOO MANY THINGS TO WRITE ABOUT. >> WATCH AMERICA'S BOOK CLUB [01:53:12] SUNDAY AT 6:00 P.M. AND 9:00 [01:53:14] P.M. EASTERN AND PACIFIC ONLY ON C-SPAN. [01:53:25] >> SUNDAY ON C-SPAN'S Q&A, [01:53:32] THREE-TIME PULITZER PRIZE NEW YORK TIMES PHOTOGRAPHER DOUG MILLS REFLECTS ON DECADES [01:53:36] COVERING AMERICAN POLITICS. HE TALKS ABOUT PHOTOGRAPHING [01:53:40] MULTIPLE PRESIDENTS, INCLUDING THE 1990 TWO CLINTON-GORE [01:53:44] CAMPAIGN. PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH ON 9/11. [01:53:47] AND CAPTURING THE ATTEMPTED ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT TRUMP [01:53:50] IN 2024, WHICH EARNED HIM HIS THIRD PULITZER PRIZE. [01:53:54] >> I'VE LISTENED TO IT IN HIS SPEECH ON THE CAMPAIGN HUNDREDS [01:53:57] OF TIMES, AND I KNEW THAT WHEN [01:53:59] HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT A CHART, [01:54:03] I THOUGHT, THE CHART? THE CHART IS TYPICALLY THE END OF THE SPEECH. [01:54:07] THAT REGISTERED RIGHT AWAY. WHEN HE GESTURED TOWARDS THE [01:54:10] CHART, THAT IS WHEN THE SHOTS RANG OUT. WHEN HE WAS GESTURING I WAS NOT [01:54:14] AS CLOSE AS WE ARE, BUT MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE FEET BACK AND I HAD [01:54:18] MY LENS ON HIM TRYING TO GET [01:54:21] SOMETHING OF HE AND THE FLAG. WHEN HE GESTURED TO THE RIGHT [01:54:25] THE SHOTS RANG OUT AND I WAS TAKING PICTURES AND I KEPT MY FINGER ON THE SHUTTER AS SOON AS [01:54:29] I HEARD THE BULLETS. [01:54:32] >> THREE-TIME PULITZER PRIZE WINNING PHOTOGRAPHER DOUG MILLS [01:54:34] SUNDAY AT 8:00 P.M. EASTERN ON C-SPAN'S Q AND A. [01:54:38] LISTEN TO Q&A AND ALL OF OUR [01:54:40] PODCASTS ON THE FREE C-SPAN NOW APP OR WHEREVER YOU GET YOUR PODCASTS. [01:54:44] >> CAMPAIGN 2026 IS UNDERWAY. [01:54:48] THE STAKES COULDN'T BE HIGHER. [01:54:51] EVERY SEAT IN THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES IS UP [01:54:53] FOR GRABS, ALONG WITH 33 U.S. [01:54:56] SENATE RACES AND THE OUTCOME OF BOTH COULD RESHAPE THE BALANCE [01:54:59] OF POWER IN WASHINGTON. [01:55:01] VOTERS WILL ALSO DECIDE 36 GUBERNATORIAL CONTESTS. [01:55:05] FROM THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL TO [01:55:07] ELECTION NIGHT, FOLLOW CAMPAIGN 2026 ON THE C-SPAN NETWORKS. [01:55:11] C-SPAN, BRINGING YOU DEMOCRACY UNFILTERED. [01:55:17] >> "WASHINGTON JOURNAL" CONTINUES. [01:55:19] HOST: WELCOME BACK ON THE SATURDAY MORNING. [01:55:22] WE HAVE BEEN HOPS CUTTING ACROSS SO MANY DIFFERENT TOPICS AND HER BACK AND OPEN FORUM. [01:55:26] -- WE HAVE BEEN HOPSCOTCHING [01:55:29] ACROSS SO MANY DIFFERENT TOPICS AND ARE BACK IN OPEN FORUM. [01:55:33] WE WILL PUT THE NUMBERS ON THE SCREEN FOR YOU TO CALL IN. [01:55:36] WE HAVE CALLERS WHO HAVE BEEN PATIENTLY WAITING. [01:55:39] ANGELA FROM CALIFORNIA ON THE INDEPENDENT LINE. [01:55:41] GOOD MORNING, YOU ARE ON WITH US. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [01:55:45] THANK YOU FOR TAKING TO MY CALL. I WANTED TO TALK TO YOUR GUEST [01:55:49] FROM CANADA, BUT THIS IS THE QUESTION I HAD FOR HIM. [01:55:54] I AM NOT AFRICAN-AMERICAN, I AM BLACK AMERICAN. [01:55:57] MY GRANDFATHER TOOK HIS FAMILY OFF A PLANTATION IN 1946 IN [01:56:01] LOUISIANA AND MOVED US. [01:56:03] MY GRANDFATHER KEPT A COW, A [01:56:05] HOG, AND WE GREW OUR OWN VEGETABLES. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT NECESSITIES [01:56:09] OF LIFE, IT LOOKED LIKE THE [01:56:14] UNITED STATES HAS OUTSOURCED ALL OUR NECESSITIES TO OTHER [01:56:16] COUNTRIES. [01:56:19] 75% OF OUR PRODUCTS IS COMING FROM CANADA. [01:56:22] 85% OF OUR PRODUCTS IS COMING FROM CHINA. [01:56:26] NOW THEY TALKING ABOUT BRINGING BEEF IN FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY. [01:56:29] WHEN I GO TO SAM'S CLUB I SEE [01:56:34] THE SHELVES ARE GETTING EMPTY. I GO TO WALMART I SEE NOTHING [01:56:38] BUT -- ACROSS THE SHELF TRYING [01:56:43] TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE IT'S FOOD. [01:56:46] TAKING THE NECESSITIES OF OUR LIFE AND SENDING IT OUT TO OTHER COUNTRIES AND WHEN THESE [01:56:50] COUNTRIES IN THE BACK TO US THEY WANT US TO PAY TRIPLE AND DOUBLE [01:56:54] FOR IT. WHERE IS THAT GOING TO LEAVE US AS THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED [01:56:57] STATES AND THE NEXT FIVE YEARS? [01:57:00] I LEFT WITH MY GIRLFRIENDS AND [01:57:02] STUFF AND I SAY I NEED TO BUY A [01:57:05] COW, A HOG, AND I NEED TO START GROWING MY OWN VEGETABLES. [01:57:10] THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT AS A UNITED STATES CITIZEN. WE'VE OUTSOURCED OUR [01:57:13] NECESSITIES. NOW THEY ARE MAKING US PAY TRIPLE AND DOUBLE TO GET BACK [01:57:17] INTO THE UNITED STATES. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. [01:57:21] HOST: ANGELA, ARE YOU SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT THE PRESIDENT'S APPROACH [01:57:24] IS ON THIS WITH THE TARIFFS AND THE COUNTRY TO COUNTRY SPECIFIC [01:57:28] BACK-AND-FORTHS? [01:57:29] CALLER: I FEEL LIKE DONALD TRUMP [01:57:35] THINKS HE'S DOING WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO TO BRING THE MONEY BACK TO [01:57:37] THE UNITED STATES, BUT IT'S ALSO HURTING THE MIDDLE CLASS. [01:57:42] I'M A SINGLE GIRL. I PAY A LOT OF MONEY IN TAXES. [01:57:45] I THINK ABOUT 60% OF MY MONEY [01:57:48] GOES TO TAXES. AND I'M LIVING KIND OF GOOD, BUT [01:57:51] I'M NOT LIVING GOOD. [01:57:53] SO MY WHOLE THING IS I THINK [01:57:57] WITH THE UNITED STATES NEED TO [01:57:59] DO IS WE NEED TO BRING BEEF IN FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY AND HURT [01:58:03] OUR FARMERS. WHY ARE WE HURTING OUR FARMERS [01:58:07] WHO IS GROWING ALL OUR FOOD IN [01:58:10] LOUISIANA, TEXAS, ALL THOSE COUNTRIES? THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. [01:58:15] MOM USED TO MAKE HER OWN CLOTHING BECAUSE SHE WAS SO POOR. [01:58:19] WE'VE OUTSOURCED EVERYTHING TO [01:58:20] OTHER COUNTRIES THAT WE NEED AS A NECESSITY. [01:58:24] I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY [01:58:25] EVERYBODY IS SO UPSET AT OTHER [01:58:30] COUNTRIES WHEN HE HIT THEM WITH [01:58:32] TARIFFS, BUT AMONG THEMSELVES, [01:58:36] CHINA AND CANADA I BET GOT A [01:58:39] LITTLE DEAL GOING WHERE THEY ARE NOT PAYING AS MUCH AS WE ARE [01:58:42] PAYING FOR THE SAME GOODS. WE'VE GIVEN AWAY AMERICAN STEEL [01:58:45] SO WE DON'T HAVE STEAL CARS NO MORE. [01:58:48] WE HAVE PLASTIC CARS. EVERYBODY TALKING THE WINDMILLS. [01:58:52] WE ALL GOT THE SAME SUN AND THE SAME WIND. [01:58:55] WE DON'T NEED CHINA. WE DON'T NEED CANADA TO MAKE [01:59:00] STUFF FOR US OF NATURAL RESOURCES. [01:59:02] WE SHOULD BE DOING THAT HERE. I DON'T NEED THEIR ELECTRIC CARS. [01:59:06] I DON'T NEED TO PAY $80,000 FOR [01:59:11] A FORD TRUCK. THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. [01:59:14] I BOUGHT A MATTRESS THE OTHER DAY. [01:59:18] $6,000 FOR A MATTRESS TO GO ON MY BED. [01:59:22] THAT'S RIDICULOUS. [01:59:22] HOST: I HOPE IT HAS A MASSAGE [01:59:26] FUNCTION OR SOMETHING. THAT'S PRICEY. [01:59:28] CALLER: IT IS FROM SIT AND [01:59:32] SLEEP. I'M GOING TO PAY THAT MUCH FOR A [01:59:35] MATTRESS, AS WILL GET THE LIFT TO IT. THAT'S WHAT I DID. [01:59:38] HOST: WE WILL HAVE THE GUEST FROM AGRI-PULSE WHO WILL TALK [01:59:42] ABOUT THE BEEF STORY, WHICH TO YOUR POINT HAS GOT A LOT OF [01:59:45] PUSHBACK FROM THE AGRICULTURE COMMUNITY IN THE U.S. THANK YOU FOR CALLING. [01:59:49] APPRECIATE IT. LET'S GO TO PENNSYLVANIA, MARK HAS BEEN WAITING ON THE LINE [01:59:53] CALLING IN ON THE REPUBLICAN CHANNEL. [01:59:56] YOU ARE ON WITH US. CALLER: GOOD MORNING, TYLER. [01:59:59] HOW ARE YOU DOING? WE HAD A COUPLE OF CALLERS: [02:00:03] ABOUT TERMS POLICIES TO CHANGE SOME ELECTION STUFF. [02:00:06] CAN ONE QUESTION ABOUT THAT SHE DOESN'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT. [02:00:10] WE'VE IDENTIFIED -- [02:00:12] OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE SOME [02:00:16] ILLEGALITY HAPPENING IN NEW JERSEY. AND TENS OF THOUSANDS ALL REGISTERED. [02:00:21] WE HAD THE SAME PROBLEM IN PENNSYLVANIA. [02:00:24] YOU GET YOUR DRIVERS LICENSE. [02:00:28] IF YOU MAKE ONE MISTAKE, YOU ARE REGISTERED TO VOTE. THESE SCHEMES THAT SEND OUT [02:00:31] BALLOTS TO THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE [02:00:33] REGISTERED, ILLEGAL VOTERS -- I [02:00:38] CALL THEM NONCITIZENS TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO TOLERATE. THEY GET A VALID. [02:00:42] THEY CAN CHOOSE TO VOTE OR NOT. [02:00:45] WHAT HE IS TRYING TO RESTRICT IS THE BALLOTS GOING OUT TO PEOPLE [02:00:48] WHO ARE NONCITIZENS THAT SHOULD NOT BE ON THE VOTER ROLLS AND [02:00:52] CLEAN UP THE VOTER ROLLS. THE STATES THAT DO THIS DO NOT [02:00:56] WANT TO GIVE HIM THE RECORDS SO WE CAN SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THIS. [02:01:00] WE HAVE SEEN TENS OF THOUSANDS REGISTERED IN NEW JERSEY. [02:01:03] YOU HAVE NOT HAD ONE SHOW ON THAT. YOU BARELY MENTIONED IT. [02:01:07] YOU WON'T EVEN READ THE ARTICLE UNTIL THE PERSON CALLED SIN, [02:01:10] WHICH I'M KIND OF SHOCKED BECAUSE IT'S A HUGE STORY. [02:01:12] THE IDEOLOGY YOU HAVE BEEN USING [02:01:16] TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH VOTER FRAUD WE HAVE IS BASED ON THE FACT THAT HOW MANY PROSECUTIONS ARE DONE. [02:01:20] VOTER FRAUD IS RARELY PROSECUTED. [02:01:23] DOES NOT MEAN IT DOES NOT HAPPEN BUT RARELY PROSECUTED. [02:01:26] THERE IS NO MOTIVATION FOR ANYONE TO PROSECUTE. [02:01:31] THAT GOES FOR DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS. [02:01:32] HOST: I WOULD ARGUE IT IS RARELY [02:01:35] PROSECUTED BECAUSE IT IS RARE. [02:01:38] EVEN CONSERVATIVE FOUNDATIONS LIKE THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION HAVE DONE DEEP DIVES INTO THE [02:01:42] DATA AND THERE ARE INSTANCES OF VOTER FRAUD BUT THEY ARE EXCEEDINGLY RARE. [02:01:46] SINGLE DIGIT PERCENTAGES WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MILLIONS OF [02:01:49] VOTES THAT ARE CAST ON AN ANNUAL OR BIANNUAL BASIS. [02:01:52] CALLER: LIKE I SAID, NOBODY IS INVESTIGATING. [02:01:57] IF YOU CAN'T GIVE THE FACTS -- NEW JERSEY IS A PRIME EXAMPLE. [02:02:01] SO ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE ARE [02:02:03] HUNDREDS OF VOTERS AND TENS OF THOUSANDS OF BALLOTS SENT OUT. [02:02:08] THAT IS A CRIME. YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SEND [02:02:11] BALLOTS TO NONCITIZENS OR PEOPLE NOT ELIGIBLE TO VOTE. [02:02:15] HOST: THE NEW JERSEY STORY -- I HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT ON THE SHOW. [02:02:20] I'M ALSO FROM NEW JERSEY SO I PAID ATTENTION TO IT A LOT. [02:02:23] IT WAS A BIG MESS UP ON THEIR PART IN THE DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR ACKNOWLEDGED THAT. [02:02:28] I GOT THE PRESS RELEASE WHEN HE GOT SENT OUT. [02:02:31] SHE DISCLOSED THIS ON HER OWN [02:02:34] BEFORE -- IT WAS NOT LIKE THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION COMPELLED INFORMATION OR WAS BEGGING NEW JERSEY TO ADMIT IT. [02:02:39] THEY SAID WE FOUND THIS UNDER THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION, [02:02:43] PHIL MURPHY. THIS WAS BAD. I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT, [02:02:47] BECAUSE I THINK IT WAS A RARE [02:02:49] EXAMPLE OF A STATE SAYING WE [02:02:52] SCREWED UP PUBLICLY, NOT [02:02:54] COMPELLED BY A COURT OR [02:02:58] ADMINISTRATION IN SAYING THIS IS WHAT WE DISCOVERED. [02:03:00] CALLER: THE DHS WAS ALREADY INVESTIGATING IT. [02:03:04] THEY HAD NOT TAKEN INTO COURT YET BUT SHE KNEW IT WAS COMING [02:03:07] SO SHE GOT OUT FROM UNDER IT AND HE ONLY USED A TWO-YEAR WINDOW WHERE THEY COULD ACTUALLY LOOK AT IT. [02:03:13] THEY DID NOT LOOK AT 10 YEARS, FIVE YEARS, FOUR YEARS, THEY [02:03:16] LOOK AT THIS TWO YEARS AND THEY [02:03:21] SAY THERE IS MORE THAN WHAT SHE HAS SAID. FOR A DEMOCRAT TO SAY THERE IS [02:03:25] THIS WHEN THEY COMPLETELY DENIED IT FOR YEARS IS A BIG DEAL, DUDE. [02:03:28] THAT PROVES IT IS NOT BEING INVESTIGATED. THEY SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT THAT [02:03:32] YEARS AGO. [02:03:33] LIKE I SAID, WHEN YOU TRY TO SAY [02:03:37] A CRIME -- HOW MANY TIMES DO WE [02:03:39] SEE PEOPLE RUN STOP SIGNS, DRUNK [02:03:42] DRIVE, AND THEY DON'T GET PROSECUTED? DOES THAT MEAN IT DID NOT HAPPEN. [02:03:47] HOST: I HAVE REPORTED FROM [02:03:50] GEORGIA AND I HAVE TALKED WITH REPUBLICAN ELECTION OFFICIALS THERE. [02:03:53] THEY TALK ABOUT THE EXTENSIVE [02:03:55] EFFORTS THEY GO TO FOR RECOUNTS [02:03:58] AND FOR AUDITS AND FOR PAPER AUDITS TO TRIPLE CHECK THINGS. [02:04:02] THEY ARE JUST NOT FINDING THIS PROOF OF WIDESPREAD VOTER FRAUD [02:04:06] THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP INSISTS HE HAS. THOSE ARE REPUBLICAN ELECTION [02:04:14] OFFICIALS. I'M NOT SAYING THERE'S NO VOTER FRAUD. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF WIDESPREAD FRAUD AND ANY OF THE RECENT ELECTIONS. [02:04:18] NEW JERSEY IS A SIGNIFICANT STORY IN A SIGNIFICANT SCREW UP [02:04:21] BUT NOT AN EXAMPLE OF AN ADMINISTRATION HIDING IT. [02:04:26] THEY ACKNOWLEDGED THE MISTAKE AND THEN PUBLICIZED THAT IN COURSE CORRECTED. [02:04:31] --AND COURSE CORRECTED. CALLER: PENNSYLVANIA HAS THE [02:04:35] SAME LAWS AND THEY DON'T LOOK HOW MANY BALLOTS WANT TO WHO. THEY DON'T KNOW. [02:04:38] THEY DON'T KNOW WHO IS NONCITIZEN AND WHO IS. [02:04:43] IT IS THE LAW AND HOW THEY [02:04:47] ADMINISTER THE BALLOTS WHICH CREATES ILLEGALITY. WHO CARES ABOUT THE FRAUD? [02:04:52] YOU CAN'T PROSECUTE THAT BECAUSE [02:04:54] ELECTIONS ARE -- IT DOESN'T [02:04:57] MATTER EVEN IF YOU PROVED IT. [02:05:01] YOU WILL NOT PROVE WHO THEY VOTED FOR AND IF IT WILL IMPACT ELECTION. THEY DON'T INVESTIGATE FOR THAT REASON. [02:05:06] THERE IS NO GAIN IN DOING IT. HOST: I WILL POLITELY CUT YOU OFF. [02:05:10] I HOPE YOU CALL BACK IN. WE HAVE ANOTHER GUEST ON THE [02:05:12] LINE WHO IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT ANOTHER STORY THAT A LOT OF CALLERS HAVE MENTIONED. [02:05:17] THE ONGOING LEGAL DISPUTE OVER THE FUTURE OF THE KENNEDY [02:05:21] CENTER, THE PERFORMING ARTS VENUE HERE IN WASHINGTON, D.C. [02:05:24] THERE WAS A COURT HEARING ON THURSDAY ABOUT THIS BACK AND [02:05:28] FORTH, DISCUSSIONS OVER WHETHER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S NAME SHOULD BE [02:05:32] ALLOWED ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING, OVER WHETHER OR NOT THE PRESIDENT TO BE ALLOWED TO [02:05:36] TEMPORARILY CLOSE THE CENTER FOR TWO YEARS TO DRAMATICALLY [02:05:39] RENOVATE IT, AND A THREAT FROM [02:05:43] THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT SAYING IF THE PRESIDENT CANNOT RENOVATE IT THE WAY HE WANTS, THEY MIGHT [02:05:45] LEVEL THE CENTER AND REBUILD IT [02:05:50] IN THE FORM OF AN OUTDOOR AMPHITHEATER. [02:05:55] WE ARE JOINED BY JOYCE BEATTY, DEMOCRAT OF COLUMBUS. [02:05:58] SHE IS THE FACE OF THE LEGAL CHALLENGE. [02:06:02] IT IS GOOD TO SEE YOU. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. [02:06:04] GUEST: IT IS GOOD TO SEE YOU AS WELL. [02:06:07] HOST: I SPENT FIVE YEARS [02:06:12] COVERING OHIO'S DELEGATION FOR SPECTRUM NEWS. THE CONGRESSWOMAN AND I GO BACK QUITE FAR BACK. [02:06:17] IT'S BEEN INTERESTING AS I COVERED THE WHITE HOUSE TO SEE [02:06:20] YOUR BACK AND FORTH OVER THIS. [02:06:22] EXPLAIN FROM YOUR VIEW -- YOU ARE TECHNICALLY A MEMBER THE [02:06:26] KENNEDY CENTER BOARD OF TRUSTEES AS BEING A MEMBER OF CONGRESS. [02:06:29] THERE HAS BEEN DEBATE OVER [02:06:31] WHETHER THESE MEMBERS AS EX [02:06:34] OFFICIO'S HAVE FULL VOTING POWER AS THE MEMBERS PRESIDENT TRUMP [02:06:37] IS APPOINTED. [02:06:40] EXPLAIN WHY YOU THINK AS AN EX OFFICIO YOU HAVE THE LEGAL [02:06:44] STANDING TO PURSUE THIS AS YOU HAVE BEEN OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. [02:06:47] GUEST: LET ME JUST SAY THANK YOU [02:06:50] FOR COVERING THIS AND TO THE VIEWERS WHO ARE INQUIRING ABOUT [02:06:54] THIS. I AM A BOARD MEMBER. [02:06:56] THEY ARE A HOST OF EX OFFICIO BOARD MEMBERS. [02:07:00] WE HAVE HAD THE FULL RIGHTS TO VOTE AND WE ARE VOTING AGAIN. [02:07:04] LET ME CLARIFY THAT. [02:07:05] WE WENT TO COURT ABOUT MAKING [02:07:09] SURE WE COULD SPEAK IN THE [02:07:10] MEETINGS AND THAT ALTHOUGH I WAS [02:07:14] FILING A LAWSUIT I WOULD BE ABLE TO SHARE ANY COMMENTS I WANTED. [02:07:19] IN THAT MEETING AFTER OUR FIRST LAWSUIT WHEN WE WENT BACK, WE [02:07:24] WERE ABLE TO VOTE AND I HAVE VOTED IN EVERY MEETING, AS WELL [02:07:27] AS ALL EX OFFICIO MEMBERS. [02:07:31] RIGHT NOW WE WENT TO COURT, AS YOU MENTIONED, ON THURSDAY. [02:07:35] ONCE AGAIN, HERE WE ARE BACK IN COURT. [02:07:40] THIS TIME BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP [02:07:42] AND HIS HANDPICKED BOARD MEMBERS SIMPLY WANTED TO SKIRT THE LAW OR GET AROUND IT. [02:07:47] THE LAW IS VERY CLEAR. [02:07:49] IT SAYS THAT NO ONE BUT THE [02:07:53] CONGRESS CAN NAME THE KENNEDY [02:07:57] CENTER, WHICH THEY DID. [02:07:59] IT DOES NOT ALLOW ON THIS ONLY [02:08:04] LIVING MEMORIAL WE HAVE TO THE [02:08:05] LATE PRESIDENT JOHN F KENNEDY, [02:08:09] YOU CANNOT ADD HIS NAME. WE SUED IN FEDERAL COURT. [02:08:13] THE RULING CAME OUT IN OUR FAVOR [02:08:16] AND DONALD TRUMP'S NAME WAS ACTUALLY REMOVED FROM THE [02:08:20] KENNEDY CENTER. [02:08:21] THIS TIME THEY WANT TO ADD AN [02:08:26] INSCRIPTION THAT SAYS SOMETHING [02:08:27] LIKE RENOVATED BY DONALD TRUMP. [02:08:33] IT HAS NOT BEEN VERY INVADED AND [02:08:35] HE HAS NOT RAISED -- HE HAS [02:08:39] RAISED ZERO DOLLARS TO PUT TOWARDS THE FUND, THE FOUNDATION. [02:08:42] IN COURT HIS LAWYERS WERE NOT [02:08:44] SURE OF HOW TO DEFINE OR WHICH WAS WHICH. [02:08:49] IT WAS VERY CLEAR WHEN WE WERE IN COURT THAT THEY WERE GRASPING FOR STRAWS. [02:08:54] WHEN THEY TALKED ABOUT THE DOLLARS HE WOULD RAISE, SAYING [02:08:58] HE WAS THE MOST PROLIFIC FUNDRAISER, YET ON THE OTHER [02:09:02] HAND, THEY WERE SAYING THE KENNEDY CENTER HAD BEEN RUN INTO THE GROUND. [02:09:07] WELL, PART OF THE REASONS, THE [02:09:09] MAJOR REASON THE ARTIST DID NOT [02:09:12] WANT TO PERFORM THEIR ONLY HAPPENED AFTER DONALD TRUMP PUT [02:09:15] HIS NAME ON THE KENNEDY CENTER, [02:09:19] AND THEY KNEW IT WAS UNLAWFUL. [02:09:21] HERE WE ARE AGAIN BACK IN COURT ON THE SAME ISSUES. [02:09:26] THEY DID PUSH THE ENVELOPE WITH [02:09:29] THIS MAGICAL SEPTEMBER 8 DAY [02:09:31] THAT THEY WERE SAYING THEY WERE [02:09:35] GOING TO PUT HIS NAME BACK UP ON [02:09:36] THE KENNEDY CENTER IN THE MIDDLE [02:09:41] OF THE JUDGE REVIEWING THE CASE. [02:09:44] AFTER WE LEFT COURT, THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE CALLED IN [02:09:47] AND HAVE TAKEN THAT MAGICAL [02:09:52] SEPTEMBER 8 DAY AND PUSHED IT [02:09:55] BACK TO OCTOBER 8, GIVING THE [02:09:57] FEDERAL JUDGE MORE TIME TO LOOK AT THIS LAST LAWSUIT. [02:10:01] THAT IS WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. WE WENT INTO COURT BECAUSE THE [02:10:05] LAW IS ON OUR SIDE. IT IS VERY CLEAR. IT IS NOT DEBATABLE. [02:10:11] WE FILED THIS IN FEDERAL COURT. WE ACTUALLY WERE IN WASHINGTON'S [02:10:15] DISTRICT COURT. WE HAD A UNANIMOUS DECISION FROM [02:10:19] THE THREE PANEL JUDGE THERE. WE WILL JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE. [02:10:25] IT IS DEFINITELY UNLAWFUL. [02:10:28] DONALD TRUMP IS JUST UPSET BECAUSE THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF [02:10:30] HIS VANITY PROJECTS AND HE LOST [02:10:34] AND HE CANNOT ACCEPT THAT. NOW IT IS LIKE A CHILD THROWING A TANTRUM. [02:10:39] IF I DON'T GIVE MY WAY, I WILL [02:10:41] TEAR IT DOWN AND PUT IT INTO SOME TYPE OF ARENA VENUE. [02:10:46] AGAIN, UNLAWFUL. [02:10:50] HOST: YOU SPOKE OUTSIDE THE COURTHOUSE ON THURSDAY AFTER THE HEARING. [02:10:55] BEFOREHAND, HOWARD LUTNICK SHOWED UP TO REPRESENT THE TRUMP [02:10:57] ADMINISTRATION IN-PERSON AND HE [02:10:59] SPOKE AND HE HAD THIS INTERESTING TAKE WHERE HE [02:11:02] BASICALLY SAID BECAUSE OF PRESIDENT TRUMP'S BACKGROUND IS [02:11:05] A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER THAT TRUMP ENJOYS THESE RENOVATION [02:11:08] PROJECTS AS A HOBBY AND A WAY TO DECOMPRESS AFTER WORK. [02:11:13] HE CLAIMED THE PRESIDENT WILL CALL HIM ON WEEKNIGHTS AT 11:00 [02:11:15] AT NIGHT AND TALK ABOUT THESE [02:11:18] PROJECTS BECAUSE HE HAS FUN WITH IT AND HE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO HAVE FUN WITH IT IN THAT WAY. [02:11:23] WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE TO THE ADMINISTRATION WHEN THEY SAY THE [02:11:26] PRESIDENT IS A DEVELOPER, HE [02:11:29] WANTS TO BEAUTIFY WASHINGTON, [02:11:31] WHY NOT LET HIM HELP THE [02:11:39] CENTER? THERE WERE A ROSTER OF PERFORMERS BUT THERE'S ALSO BEEN ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT THE PHYSICAL STRUCTURE COULD STAND TO BE [02:11:42] UPDATED IN THE CENTER COULD BE INFUSED WITH MORE MONEY AND [02:11:45] MAYBE A BETTER BUSINESS MODEL MOVING FORWARD. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THE COMMERCE [02:11:49] SECRETARY? [02:11:50] GUEST: FOR SECRETARY LET NICK TO [02:11:53] EVEN SAY THAT, HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN EMBARRASSED. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE [02:11:57] PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND HE SPENDS HIS NIGHTS [02:11:59] WORRYING ABOUT FUN ON THE [02:12:02] KENNEDY CENTER WHEN WE ARE AT WAR? WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE TRYING TO [02:12:07] DECIDE ABOUT PUTTING GAS IN THEIR CAR TO GET TO WORK OR [02:12:11] BUYING FOOD OR TAKING CARE OF THEIR FAMILIES, AND HE'S UP LATE AT NIGHT? [02:12:15] IT WAS LIKE A BOARD MEETING WAS FOR MORE THAN TWO HOURS. [02:12:20] FOR THE PRESIDENT TO SAY I HAVE A LISTENING TO THIS CALL THE [02:12:23] ENTIRE TIME, AGAIN TO TALK ABOUT [02:12:25] HIS VANITY PROJECTS AND HOW GREAT HE IS, IT'S AN EMBARRASSMENT. [02:12:31] WE HAVE SERIOUS ISSUES THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE TALKING [02:12:35] ABOUT AND ASKING FOR HELP. HE'S TALKING ABOUT FUN AND BEING [02:12:38] A DEVELOPER. LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS [02:12:42] HE'S BEEN WORKING ON, LIKE THE EAST WING. NOT FINISHED. [02:12:47] WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE LINCOLN CENTER REFLECTING POOL AND ALL [02:12:50] THE DRAMA THAT HAS GONE ON WITH THAT. [02:12:53] ALL OF THIS IS VERY QUESTIONABLE, BUT DOES HE LIKE [02:12:57] HAVING VANITY PROJECTS? ABSOLUTELY. [02:13:01] PUTTING HIS NAME ON THINGS. THIS TIME IT WAS UNLAWFUL. [02:13:04] IT IS UNLAWFUL. THE COURT HAS RULED ON IT. [02:13:09] THAT IS WHY WE WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT, BECAUSE WE ARE FIGHTING FOR JUSTICE. [02:13:13] IT IS UNLAWFUL. [02:13:17] HOST: TO THE POINT YOU JUST MADE I'M CURIOUS -- YOU WERE SPEAKING [02:13:21] TO US FROM YOUR DISTRICT IN [02:13:27] COLUMBUS. WHEN YOU'RE BACK ON TALKING WITH CONSTITUENTS I HAVE TO IMAGINE THEY ARE COMING TO YOU SAYING THINGS ARE TOO EXPENSIVE, MAYBE WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE WAR, [02:13:31] BIGGER FISH TO FRY THAN THE STATE OF THE KENNEDY CENTER IN WASHINGTON. [02:13:35] TO YOUR POINT THERE ARE BIGGER ISSUES, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO YOUR [02:13:37] CONSTITUENTS ABOUT WHY YOU HAVE CHOSEN THIS FIGHT TO BE SO [02:13:42] PUBLIC AND COME BACK TO WASHINGTON WHILE CONGRESS HAS BEEN OUT OF SESSION FOR THE COURT HEARING/ [02:13:46] -- HEARING? [02:13:50] GUEST: IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY I'M FIGHTING BECAUSE I'M FIGHTING FOR JUSTICE AND HOPEFULLY THIS [02:13:54] IS A CARRY OVER TO MY FIGHT FOR AFFORDABILITY, FOR MY FIGHT FOR HOUSING. [02:13:58] I HAD SIX BILLS IN THE 21ST CENTURY ROAD TO HOUSING. [02:14:03] WHILE I HAVE BEEN HOME I HAVE ATTENDED MANY GROUNDBREAKING'S. [02:14:06] WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE BILL WITH CORPORATE AMERICA, WITH [02:14:10] EVERYDAY COMMUNITY CITIZENS BECAUSE I KNOW IT WILL HELP THEM [02:14:14] MITIGATE THEIR MORTGAGE AND NOT HAVE IT FORECLOSED ON. [02:14:20] WE ARE IMPROVING THE SUPPLY [02:14:24] AND DEMAND OF HOUSING. WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING TO ME [02:14:27] OVERWHELMINGLY, THANK YOU, BECAUSE WE WANT TO SEE SOMEONE FIGHTING. [02:14:32] THEY CAN MAKE THAT TRANSFORMATION FROM FIGHTING FOR [02:14:35] THE KENNEDY CENTER, TAKING ON DONALD TRUMP BECAUSE HE'S WRONG. [02:14:40] WE WILL DO THE SAME THING FOR THEM. THAT IS THE NUMBER ONE THING [02:14:43] PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT. THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT, WHEN ARE [02:14:47] PEOPLE GOING TO STAND UP FOR US? WHEN ARE PEOPLE GOING TO FIGHT? [02:14:52] I THINK THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE FIGHTS THAT I'M ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN. [02:14:56] WE WERE SUCCESSFUL AGAINST [02:15:00] DONALD TRUMP ON THE 21ST CENTURY ROAD TO HOUSING. [02:15:02] IT WAS A BIPARTISAN BILL OVERWHELMINGLY. [02:15:07] SOMETHING INITIALLY THIS PRESIDENT SAID HE WOULD SUPPORT. WHAT HAPPENED? [02:15:11] WHEN WE GOT TOGETHER AND WE WERE FIGHTING FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE [02:15:14] AND WE PUT FORWARD SOMETHING THAT WAS GREAT, HE REFUSED TO [02:15:18] SIGN IT. AGAIN, THE LAW PREVAILED. [02:15:23] IT SAT THERE FOR 10 DAYS AND THEN IT BECAME LAW WITHOUT HIS SIGNATURE. [02:15:29] HOST: ONE LAST QUESTION BEFORE WE GO TO BREAK. [02:15:32] I WAS OUTSIDE THE KENNEDY CENTER ON THURSDAY WHEN YOU WERE OVER AT THE COURTHOUSE. [02:15:37] THE BIG TARP IS STILL UP IN FRONT OF THE FORMAL NAME OF THE KENNEDY CENTER. [02:15:42] I'M CURIOUS IF YOU KNOW, HAS THE ACTUAL LETTERING OF DONALD TRUMP'S NAME THAT WAS PUT HAVE [02:15:46] BEEN TAKEN DOWN OR IS THE TARP COVERING IT? [02:15:49] DO YOU KNOW WHY IT IS STILL UP? GUEST: LET ME ANSWER THAT BY [02:15:53] SAYING I WAS THERE WHILE THEY [02:15:56] WERE TAKING THE NAME DOWN. [02:16:01] AROUND 4:00 A.M. ON THAT DAY, THE LETTERS CAME DOWN. [02:16:06] I CAN UNEQUIVOCALLY TELL YOU HIS NAME IS NOT ON THE KENNEDY [02:16:10] CENTER. THE TARP IS THERE I THINK [02:16:13] INITIALLY TO COVER UP, BECAUSE [02:16:17] HE DID NOT KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH THIS LOSS. I THINK HE THOUGHT SOME PEOPLE [02:16:21] MIGHT BELIEVE HIS NAME WAS STILL UP THERE. [02:16:24] WE LATER FOUND THERE HAS BEEN [02:16:26] DAMAGE TO THE MARBLE. [02:16:30] A VERY DISTINCTIVE MARBLE THAT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET OR REPLACE. [02:16:34] WE ARE STILL DEALING WITH THAT FROM THE WAY THEY REMOVED THOSE [02:16:38] LETTERS. [02:16:40] HOST: CONGRESSWOMAN, GREAT TO [02:16:44] RECONNECT AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US ON THIS SATURDAY MORNING. GUEST: THANK YOU. ANY TIME. [02:16:48] HOST: WE ARE GOING TO BE RIGHT BACK. [02:16:52] YOU CAN DEFINITELY CALL IN. WE WILL BE JOINED BY OUR NEXT GUEST. [02:16:56] WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT BEEF IMPORT STORY GETTING A LOT OF ATTENTION. 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GUEST: THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. [02:20:28] HOST: WHAT IS YOUR OUTLET AND YOUR AUDIENCE? [02:20:33] GUEST: AGRI-PULSE PRIMARILY [02:20:37] COVERS AGRICULTURAL POLICY. I DO A LOT OF ON THE HILL [02:20:41] REPORTING ALONG WITH MY COLLEAGUES. [02:20:45] WE COVER USDA, FDA, HHS, AND ALL THINGS THAT IMPACT FARMERS. [02:20:52] THAT IS AGRI-PULSE. [02:20:54] IT WAS FOUNDED BY SARAH ALLIANT. [02:21:00] ON THE CONGRESSIONAL AND TRADE EDITOR. HOST: ROAMING THE HALLS TO GET [02:21:04] ANSWERS FOR THE AG COMMUNITY. LET'S START WITH A 30,000 FOOT [02:21:08] VIEW OF THE STORY. IT HAS TO DO WITH GROUND BEEF. [02:21:11] THE PRESIDENT PUT OUT ON TRUTH SOCIAL THAT HE WAS GOING TO [02:21:15] BASICALLY PUSH AWAY TARIFFS ON GROUND BEEF IMPORTS TO TRY TO LOWER THE PRICE OF IT HERE AT HOME. [02:21:19] THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF BACKLASH. [02:21:21] DID THIS COME OUT OF NOWHERE? DID THIS SURPRISE YOU? [02:21:28] GUEST: IT DID KIND OF COME OUT OF NOWHERE. HOWEVER THE ADMINISTRATION HAS [02:21:32] BEEN TAKING STEPS TO TRY AND LOWER BEEF PRICES. [02:21:35] THEY RECENTLY REOPENED THE SOUTHERN BORDER FOR LIVESTOCK TRADE. [02:21:42] IMPORTS FROM MEXICO, FOR FEED CATTLE. [02:21:45] THEY JUST REOPENED ON AUGUST 24 [02:21:48] THE DOUGLAS, ARIZONA [02:21:54] PORT AND THEY ARE TRYING TO REOPEN NEW MEXICO. WITH THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS THEY [02:21:57] ARE FOCUSED ON TRYING TO LOWER [02:22:00] CONSUMER PRICES, ESPECIALLY WITH [02:22:04] BEEF, WHICH IS AT AN ALL-TIME HIGH. [02:22:07] RIGHT NOW IT'S ABOUT $6.89 PER [02:22:11] POUND. [02:22:12] TO PUT THAT IN [02:22:16] PERSPECTIVE, IN 2020, THE [02:22:19] HIGHEST PRICES AROUND WAS $4.74. [02:22:24] IT HAS SKYROCKETED. HOST: WHAT IS DRIVING THE PRICE INCREASE? [02:22:30] GUEST: A LOT OF IT IS OUR DOMESTIC U.S. HERD. [02:22:33] IT IS AT A RECORD LOW. THE LOWEST LEVEL IT HAS BEEN [02:22:38] SINCE THE 1950'S. [02:22:40] THAT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH A LOT OF ISSUES [02:22:43] WITH DROUGHT AND ALSO THE COST [02:22:47] FOR RAISING CATTLE HAS GONE UP SIGNIFICANTLY. [02:22:52] IT IS EXPENSIVE. FEED IS EXPENSIVE. [02:22:56] THERE IS LESS INCENTIVES RIGHT NOW TO REBUILD THE HERD. [02:22:59] THAT MEANS WE HAVE LESS DOMESTIC [02:23:04] CATTLE AND LESS DOMESTIC GROUND BEEF. [02:23:07] WE ARE HAVING TO IMPORT A LOT OF OUR BEEF. [02:23:09] HOST: THE ANNOUNCEMENT WAS THAT [02:23:13] FOR 90 DAYS HE'S OPENING UP A WINDOW WHERE BEEF COMING FROM [02:23:16] OTHER COUNTRIES CAN COME INTO THE U.S. BASICALLY WITHOUT TARIFFS. [02:23:20] 25% LOWER, RIGHT? [02:23:24] THE REASON BEEF PRODUCERS IN THE U.S. GOT UPSET IS THEY ARE SAYING THAT MESSES WITH OUR BUSINESS MODEL. [02:23:29] THAT UNDERCUTS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. [02:23:32] TALK ABOUT THE OUTRAGE FROM THE AG COMMUNITY IN THE U.S. [02:23:38] WE HAVE SEEN REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS, THE CATTLEMEN'S [02:23:41] ASSOCIATION, GROUPS THAT ARE NORMALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE PRESIDENT SAYING YOU HAVE CROSSED IS HERE. [02:23:47] GUEST: THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF BACKLASH. THE AMERICAN FARM BUREAU [02:23:51] FEDERATION SENT A LETTER TO [02:23:53] TRUMP SAYING THIS IS GOING TO [02:23:57] IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO REBUILD THE HERD. [02:24:02] IN ADDITION TO THAT, 70% OF SPRING BORN CAPS ARE GOING TO BE [02:24:07] SOLD DURING THAT 90 DAY WINDOW [02:24:08] -- CALVES.THIS [02:24:19] COULD IMPACT PRICE IS TO THREE YEARS DOWN THE LINE. [02:24:22] THE BRIGHT SPOT IN AGRICULTURE IS ACTUALLY THE CATTLE INDUSTRY. [02:24:27] WE ARE SEEING FARM COUNTRY STRUGGLE. [02:24:30] THEY HAVE TO RELY ON ASSISTANCE. [02:24:38] NOW YOU ARE INSERTING SOME MARKET UNCERTAINTY. [02:24:41] BY TRYING TO LOWER THE PRICES [02:24:45] RENTERS ARE NOT GOING TO SEE AS MUCH RETURN ON THEIR INVESTMENT [02:24:48] -- RANCHERS. THEY WILL NOT BE AS WILLING TO [02:24:52] TRY TO REBUILD THEIR HERD. [02:24:54] THAT IS THE CRUX OF THE PROBLEM [02:24:56] WITH THE HIGH BEEF PRICES. [02:24:58] IF WE WANT TO LOWER BEEF PRICES, WHAT THE INDUSTRY IS SAYING IS [02:25:03] THAT WE NEED TO INVEST IN THE HERD LONG-TERM. [02:25:07] HOST: THE PUSHBACK HAS BEEN STRIKING. [02:25:11] IF FOLKS WANT TO CALL IN TO ASK [02:25:12] OLIVIA BRIDGES ABOUT THIS TOPIC [02:25:16] OR JUST TRADE MORE BROADLY WHEN [02:25:17] IT COMES TO THE AG WORLD, THERE [02:25:21] IS A REPUBLICAN MONK, DEMOCRAT [02:25:25] LOT -- REPUBLICAN LINE, DEMOCRAT LINE, INDEPENDENT LINE. [02:25:31] YOU CAN ALSO REACH OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. I WANT YOU RESPONSE. [02:25:35] I HAD A CHANCE INTERVIEW SECRETARY BROOKE ROLLINS EARLY THIS WEEK AND WE TALKED ABOUT [02:25:39] THIS TOPIC. I WANT TO PLAY THREE MINUTES OF THE CLIP AND THEN I WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS. [02:25:44] I WAS SURPRISED BY HOW UNPLUGGED SHE SEEMED TO BE FROM THIS DECISION. [02:25:49] HERE IS THAT EXCHANGE FROM THE WHITE HOUSE. [VIDEO] >> WE TALKED ABOUT BEEF EARLIER. [02:25:54] I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND AN [02:25:56] AG GROUP OR REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS [02:26:00] SUPPORTING THE ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT IMPORTING BEEF TO LOWER PRICES. [02:26:03] WHY DO THIS IN THE FACE OF VERY WIDESPREAD CRITICISM? [02:26:10] >> I THINK, AND IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PRESIDENT, I DO KNOW THERE'S BEEN A PRESIDENT MORE PRO FARMER [02:26:13] AND PRO GRANTOR -- PRO [02:26:20] RANCHER. [02:26:22] THE ONE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL OPENING UP 5 MILLION ACRES OF [02:26:26] GRAZING LAND, THE MOST PRO BIOFUEL PRESIDENT ON RECORD, [02:26:30] OPENING UP DOMESTIC MARKETS. THE 20 NEW TRADE DEALS AROUND [02:26:33] THE WORLD CUTTING THE [02:26:35] AGRICULTURAL TRADE DEFICIT FROM $50 BILLION UNDER JOE BIDEN TO [02:26:39] HALF OF THAT IN JUST OVER A YEAR. [02:26:41] PUTTING AGRICULTURE -- THE [02:26:43] PRESIDENT HAS PUT AG AT THE TOP [02:26:46] OF EVERY TRADE NEGOTIATION. [02:26:50] I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO LEVEL SET. [02:26:55] THE PRESIDENT IS THE CHAMPION OF [02:26:56] ALL AMERICANS. [02:27:00] RANCHERS AND FARMERS ARE MY WORLD AND I'M FOCUSED ON THAT. THE CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM IS THAT WE INHERITED AN IMPOSSIBLE SITUATION. [02:27:04] WE INHERITED THE LOWEST HEARD ON [02:27:08] RECORD -- HERD ON RECORD. [02:27:13] THE BEEF TODAY WAS BORN UNDER THE BITE ADMINISTRATION. [02:27:16] THESE ARE NOT EGGS. [02:27:19] IT TAKES YEARS TO REBUILD THE HERD. [02:27:23] THE PRESIDENT MADE THE DECISION [02:27:25] FOR A SHORT 90 DAYS THIS IS [02:27:29] JUST GROUND BEEF. IT IS SITTING IN OTHER COUNTRIES. [02:27:34] THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY HELP SERVE AMERICANS, ESPECIALLY LOWER INCOME AMERICANS WHO [02:27:37] REALLY LEAN INTO THE LEAN GROUND BEEF. [02:27:42] THIS IS A VERY SHORT-TERM FIX [02:27:43] FROM THE PRESIDENT'S PERSPECTIVE THAT HE BELIEVED NECESSARY TO [02:27:47] GET LOWER COST BEEF ON AMERICAN PLATES. [02:27:50] WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHEN WE ARE EATING MORE BEEF THAN EVER [02:27:53] BEFORE, OUR PROGRAMS LIKE HARVEST THE HALLWAYS, A BIG PART OF THAT IS GROUND BEEF. [02:27:58] IT IS GETTING PROTEIN ONTO THE SCHOOL LUNCH PLATES. THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A HIGHER [02:28:02] DEMAND FOR BEEF AND PROTEIN DOWN THERE IS TODAY. [02:28:06] THE NEW DIETARY GUIDELINES. [02:28:11] THAT SHORT-TERM EFFORT TO GET SOME OF THAT GROUND BEEF SITTING OUT THERE IN THE WORLD INTO AMERICA, THE PRESIDENT FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW. [02:28:16] FOR THE LONG-TERM, AND YOU WILL HEAR MORE ON THIS, WE HAVE NEVER [02:28:19] BEEN MORE COMMITTED. YOU CAN SEE THAT. [02:28:23] TWO WEEKS AGO, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 10 YEARS, THAT HEIFER [02:28:26] RETENTION NUMBER WENT UP. IT WAS AT 3%. [02:28:31] THAT'S PRETTY CRAZY. THE COST OF GROUND BEEF IS [02:28:33] ALREADY GOING DOWN. IT WENT DOWN TO THE BIGGEST DROP [02:28:36] SINCE 2020. ALTHOUGH NUMBERS ARE WORKING. [02:28:40] ALL THE PLANS PUT IN PLACE ARE WORKING. THE PRESIDENT WANTED TO [02:28:44] SUPERCHARGE THE COST OF BEEF SINCE HE'S BEEN HEARING A LOT ABOUT FROM THE AMERICAN CONSUMER. [02:28:47] >> DURING THE SHORT TERM WINDOW, [02:28:50] WHICH COUNTRIES ARE WE IMPORTING BEEF FROM? [02:28:53] >> I WILL BE TRANSPARENT. THAT IS OVER AT THE U.S. TRADE. [02:28:57] I'M NOT PART OF ANY THOSE CONVERSATIONS. [02:29:00] I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. I THINK WE WILL KNOW VERY SOON. [02:29:07] HOST: THAT WAS MY CONVERSATION WITH THE SECRETARY ON TUESDAY. THEY GOT A GOOD AMOUNT OF [02:29:10] ATTENTION BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE LIKE, HOW DOES THE AGRICULTURE [02:29:13] SECRETARY NOT KNOW WHAT COUNTRIES WE ARE GOING TO IMPORT BEEF FROM? [02:29:16] THAT WAS A LONG CLIP BUT WHAT'S IT OUT TO YOU? [02:29:20] GUEST: WE DON'T KNOW WHAT COUNTRIES THIS BEEF IS COMING FROM. [02:29:24] THE PROCLAMATION THAT PRESIDENT [02:29:28] TRUMP SIGNED ON WEDNESDAY SAID [02:29:31] IT'S GOING TO BEAT ALL OTHER COUNTRIES OR AREAS. [02:29:36] THAT GENERALLY APPLIES TO COUNTRIES THAT DON'T HAVE A QUOTA OR AGREEMENT. [02:29:39] EARLIER THIS WEEK OVER A FEW [02:29:41] DAYS AGO, I SPOKE WITH DARREN PARKER AT PMI FOODS. [02:29:45] HE SAID THAT COULD MEAN BRAZIL, [02:29:50] PARAGUAY, PERHAPS EVEN ANOTHER [02:29:52] LENS. -- THE NETHERLANDS. WE DON'T KNOW. [02:29:57] THE ADMINISTRATION IS PLAYING THAT CLOSE TO THE VEST. USTR HAS NOT RELEASED A LIST OF [02:30:01] THE COUNTRIES THIS WILL BE COMING FROM. [02:30:05] NEITHER HAS USDA. [02:30:07] IT IS VERY INTERESTING THAT BROOKE ROLLINS SEEMS TO BE OUT [02:30:10] OF THE LOOP WHEN IT COMES TO THESE CONVERSATIONS. [02:30:15] THIS IS A VERY BIG IN AGRICULTURE AND THE BEEF [02:30:18] INDUSTRY IS UPSET ABOUT THIS. [02:30:22] THIS IS IN ADDITION TO THE [02:30:24] 80,000 METRIC TONS OF [02:30:28] -- [02:30:31] 80,000 TONS OF ARGENTINIAN BEEF WHICH THIS WILL NOT IMPACT THE [02:30:35] ARGENTINE BEEF. THE 80,000 TONS WILL COME INTO [02:30:39] THE U.S. DURING THIS CALENDAR YEAR. [02:30:40] THERE IS JUST A OF QUESTIONS GOING AROUND. [02:30:44] IT RAISES IMPORTANT QUESTIONS [02:30:48] ABOUT FOOD SAFETY. ARGENTINE BEEF, BACK IN THE [02:30:51] BEGINNING OF THIS MONTH, IN THE BEGINNING OF AUGUST, THERE WAS A [02:30:55] RECALL BY THE USDA. AND SO, CONSUMERS ARE CONCERNED [02:30:59] ABOUT THE SAFETY OF -- [02:31:03] HOST: I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP [02:31:07] THE ARGENTINIAN BEEF. THAT GOT A LOT OF ATTENTION AND PEOPLE STARTED SAYING ONLINE [02:31:11] INCORRECTLY THAT THIS BEEF ANNOUNCEMENT LED TO THE [02:31:14] RECALLING BUT IT'S TWO SEPARATE CONVERSATIONS. [02:31:17] PEOPLE CAN LOOK UP THE PROCLAMATION PRESIDENT TRUMP [02:31:19] SIGNED THIS WEEK FOR THIS BEEF IMPORT STORY AND IT DOESN'T LIST ANY OF THE COUNTRIES. [02:31:23] IT SAYS 90 DAYS AND HOW MANY METRIC TONS WE ARE GOING TO BRING IN. [02:31:27] IT'S BEEN STRIKING THAT THEY HAVE BEEN HOLDING IT CLOSE TO THE BEST. [02:31:31] LET'S GET TO SOME CALLERS WHO I'M SURE WANT TO PICK YOUR BRAIN SINCE YOU ARE THE EXPERT ON [02:31:35] THIS. DANNY IS CALLING IN FROM ROCK ISLAND, TENNESSEE ON THE [02:31:38] DEMOCRATIC LINE. GOOD MORNING. YOU ARE ON WITH OUR GUEST. [02:31:42] CALLER: YES. I AM A BEEF CATTLE FARMER. [02:31:46] I'VE BEEN IN IT FOR 60 YEARS. [02:31:48] IF HE WANTS TO GET THE PRICE OF [02:31:50] BEEF DOWN, LET HIM GET THE PRICE [02:31:54] OF TRACTORS DOWN. JOHN DEERE HAS GONE UP 1200% [02:31:57] SINCE THE 1970'S. YOUR POTATO CHIPS HAVE GONE UP 500%. [02:32:03] EVERYTHING FERTILIZER IS IN ORBIT. [02:32:05] IT'S ALMOST $800 A TON. [02:32:08] IT COSTS ALMOST $150 TO $200 AN [02:32:13] ACRE JUST TO PUT THE FERTILIZER DOWN. [02:32:15] A HAY BALE OR HAS GONE FROM [02:32:19] $14,000 TO 105,000 DOLLARS IN 25 [02:32:24] YEARS. GET THE PRICE OF EVERYTHING ELSE [02:32:29] DOWN IF YOU WANT TO HELP A FARMER. [02:32:32] THAT'S WHY THE FARMERS ARE JUST STRESSED OUT, MAN. [02:32:34] HOST: THANKS FOR SHARING THAT [02:32:38] PERSPECTIVE. IF YOU COULD TALK TO THE PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW, WHAT WOULD [02:32:40] YOU SAY TO HIM ABOUT THIS TOPIC? [02:32:42] ESPECIALLY AS THE ACT SECRETARY [02:32:47] SAYS THE PRESIDENT VIEWS THIS AS [02:32:48] A SHORT-TERM FIX TO THESE BEEF PRICES. [02:32:52] YOU ARE SAYING THIS IS THE LATEST IN A LIST OF PAIN FOLKS IN YOUR BUSINESS ARE DEALING [02:32:56] WITH, IS THAT RIGHT? CALLER: EXACTLY. [02:33:00] THE CORN AND SOYBEAN FARMERS HAVE LOST THEIR SHIRTS OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS. [02:33:05] WHY ANYBODY IN AGRICULTURE WOULD VOTE FOR THAT MAN IS RIDICULOUS. [02:33:08] IT'S JUST -- HE HAS FOR US IN [02:33:13] THE CROSSHAIRS. IT WAS THE ONLY THING ON THE FARM MAKING MONEY WAS THE BEEF [02:33:17] CATTLE. NOW, HE'S GOING TO GO IN. [02:33:20] THEY DROPPED $150 TO $200 PER HEAD. [02:33:24] THAT'S ALL OF THE PROFIT. [02:33:26] HOST: THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR PERSPECTIVE. [02:33:29] HAVE YOU IN YOUR REPORTING COME [02:33:31] ACROSS ANY AG GROUP OR LAWMAKER [02:33:36] WHO SAID THIS IS A GOOD IDEA? GUEST: I HAVEN'T. [02:33:39] THERE HAS BEEN PUSHED BACK BY SEVERAL GROUPS. [02:33:42] THE AMERICAN FARM BUREAU [02:33:45] ASSOCIATION, THE U.S. CATTLEMEN'S BEEF ASSOCIATION. [02:33:49] THEY ARE ALL SAYING THE SAME THING. [02:33:52] LOWERING THESE PRICES, IT'S [02:33:56] GOING TO FORCE DOMESTIC PRODUCERS TO TRY AND COMPETE, TO LOWER THEIR PRICES. [02:34:01] BUT, IT IS A SHORT-TERM FIX. [02:34:04] THIS NEEDS A LONG-TERM SOLUTION. [02:34:07] AND SIMPLY BRINGING IN FOREIGN BEEF, THAT'S NOT GOING TO [02:34:11] REBUILD THE DOMESTIC HEARD. [02:34:13] HOST: I THOUGHT THE DOLLAR [02:34:15] FIGURE HE PUT TO THE VALUE OF [02:34:19] THE COWS WAS INTERESTING TOO. [02:34:22] I TALKED TO A COUPLE WHO WAS RUNNING A CATTLE FARM AND THEY [02:34:25] WERE GETTING READY TO SELL 70 [02:34:29] COWS AND THE PRESIDENT MADE AN ANNOUNCEMENT AND EACH OF THE [02:34:32] COWS LOST $200 TO $300 IN VALUE AND THAT AFFECTED THEIR BOTTOM LINE. [02:34:36] AS A NON-FARMER, I WAS LIKE OH MY GOSH, THAT'S A CRAZY EXAMPLE. [02:34:40] I'M SURE YOU ARE HEARING A LOT OF STORIES LIKE THAT. [02:34:42] GUEST: FARMERS ARE MAKING [02:34:46] DECISIONS THAT WILL IMPACT BEEF PRICES TWO TO THREE YEARS DOWN THE LINE. [02:34:49] IF THEY ARE SEEING THE MARKET PRICES ARE DROPPING, THEY ARE [02:34:52] NOT GOING TO WANT TO BUY MORE [02:34:56] FEEDER CATTLE, MORE CATTLE TO REBUILD THE HERD. [02:35:01] WE MIGHT SEE SHRINKING OR IT WILL STAY STAGNANT AS IT IS. [02:35:04] THERE NEEDS TO BE LONG-TERM [02:35:06] SOLUTIONS THAT'S MORE THAN JUST AD HOC FARM ASSISTANTS THAT WE [02:35:09] HAVE BEEN SEEING COME OUT OF CONGRESS AND THE USDA. [02:35:12] HOST: LET'S GO TO SOUTH CAROLINA. [02:35:16] WALT IS CALLING IN FROM EASILY ON THE INDEPENDENT LINE. [02:35:19] CALLER: THE MORNING. [02:35:22] IT SEEMS LIKE THE ADMINISTRATION IS MORE INTERESTED IN DOING THINGS THAT GRAB HEADLINES [02:35:28] VERSUS ACTUALLY RESEARCHING WHAT DECISIONS ARE GOING TO DO AND [02:35:32] HOW IT WILL AFFECT FARMERS. DANNY MADE SOME GREAT COMMENTS. [02:35:35] I CERTAINLY AGREE WITH HIM. I GUESS THE ONLY SUGGESTION I [02:35:38] WOULD HAVE IS MAKE SURE THE [02:35:44] IMPORTED BEEF PRESIDENT TRUMP IS TALKING ABOUT WILL BE SAFE FOR [02:35:48] CONSUMERS. PERHAPS ROBERT KENNEDY JR. SHOULD TEST IT AND EAT SOME OF [02:35:51] IT BEFORE IT IS RELEASED FOR SALE. JUST A THOUGHT. [02:35:53] HOST: THANK YOU, WALT. [02:35:57] LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW DOES THE U.S. GO ABOUT CHECKING IMPORTED [02:36:00] BEEF AND MAKING SURE THAT IT IS SAFE? DO WE HAVE AN IDEA, WE TALKED [02:36:04] ABOUT THE PROCLAMATION THE PRESIDENT SIGNED WITH A LACK OF [02:36:08] INFO. DO WE KNOW THERE WILL BE A FAST-TRACK INSPECTION PROCESS? [02:36:12] IS THERE ANY INFO AVAILABLE? [02:36:16] GUEST: WE DON'T HAVE ANY INFO [02:36:20] AVAILABLE. WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHICH COUNTRIES THIS WILL BE COMING OUT OF. [02:36:24] WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HELP OUR FOOD AND MEAT INSPECTION, [02:36:28] SERVICES THAT ARE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE, WILL BE SUFFICIENT. [02:36:31] AS WE MENTIONED, THERE WAS THE [02:36:33] ARGENTINE BEEF RECALL. [02:36:36] SO, THAT'S A BIG THING. CONSUMER SAFETY IS SOMETHING [02:36:39] THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT. [02:36:44] AND THEN SOMETHING TO CONSIDER IS WITH THE BEEF POTENTIALLY [02:36:48] BEING FROM BRAZIL, THIS IS A [02:36:51] BLOW TO FARMERS AND THE CATTLE [02:36:53] INDUSTRY, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE [02:36:56] U.S. TRADE REPRESENTATIVE'S OFFICE, THEY POSTED SECTION 301 [02:37:00] TARIFFS WHICH WERE INTENDED TO REPLACE THE IEEPA AND SECTION [02:37:04] 122 LEVEES. [02:37:05] HOST: WHICH WERE THE ONES STRUCK [02:37:08] DOWN BY THE SUPREME COURT. GUEST: YES. [02:37:12] AND THE BEEF INDUSTRY URGED USTR [02:37:14] TO EXCLUDE BEEF FROM BOTH THE [02:37:18] GLOBAL ONES THAT IMPACTED 60 [02:37:21] NATIONS AND THEN ALSO THE [02:37:23] BRAZIL, THE 25% BRAZIL. USTR DID NOT EXCLUDE BEEF. [02:37:26] SO THAT AGAIN IS SHOWING THE [02:37:32] DIFFERENT ACTIONS THE ADMINISTRATION IS TAKING TO TRY TO LOWER BEEF COSTS. [02:37:35] IT'S NOT GETTING DOWN TO THE [02:37:39] CRUX OF THE ISSUE, WHICH IS WE NEED TO REBUILD THE HERD. [02:37:42] HOST: WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE [02:37:46] WRITING IN. STEVE IN TAMPA, FLORIDA SAYS [02:37:50] PLEASE ASK YOUR GUEST TO CONFIRM THAT THE MAJOR REASON FOR THE INCREASE IN BEEF PRICES [02:37:54] IS THAT THE CATTLE HERD IS THE SMALLEST IN MANY, MANY YEARS AND [02:37:56] AT THE SAME TIME, CHICKEN PRICES ARE UP BECAUSE CHICKEN IS [02:38:00] CHEAPER THAN BEEF AND IT'S IN HIGH DEMAND SO CHICKEN PRICES HAVE BEEN RAISED. [02:38:03] IS THAT CHICKEN ASPECT ACCURATE? [02:38:05] GUEST: I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK ON THAT. [02:38:09] PRODUCTION COSTS FOR BEEF HAS INCREASED BY 30%. [02:38:14] WHICH NECESSITATES INCREASING [02:38:17] PRICES IN ADDITION TO HAVING THE LOWER HERD. [02:38:21] HOST: JESSE FROM WISCONSIN [02:38:24] RIGHTS IN ARE THAT LEGITIMATE [02:38:27] SAFETY CONCERNS ASSOCIATED WITH FOREIGN BEEF THAT JUSTIFY [02:38:30] COUNTRY OF ORIGIN LABELING OR IS IT MERELY A TRADE BARRIER MEANT [02:38:33] TO PROTECT DOMESTIC PRODUCERS? GUEST: THERE OBVIOUSLY IS -- [02:38:37] COUNTRIES HAVE THEIR OWN DIFFERENT STANDARDS. [02:38:40] SO, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER YOU HAVE FOOD COMING INTO THE UNITED [02:38:44] STATES, YOU WANT TO ENSURE THAT IT IS UP TO OUR STANDARD. [02:38:47] BUT TO OUR POINT ABOUT MANDATORY AND COUNTRY OF ORIGIN, WE ARE [02:38:51] SEEING A PUSH IN THE SENATE TO [02:38:54] MANDATE COUNTRY OF ORIGIN LABELING FOR BEEF SPECIFICALLY. [02:38:57] DURING THE SENATE AGRICULTURE [02:39:01] MARKUP, HE INTRODUCED AN [02:39:05] AMENDMENT THAT WAS ADOPTED THAT WOULD HAVE MANDATED IT. [02:39:09] BUT, THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE TRIED MANDATED COUNTRY [02:39:12] OF ORIGIN LABELING FOR BEEF. [02:39:14] IN THE 2002 FARM BILL AND THE [02:39:18] 2008 FARM BILL, WE HAD THAT. [02:39:22] BUT, IT EVENTUALLY HAD TO BE ROLLED BACK, BECAUSE THERE WAS [02:39:25] ISSUES BETWEEN CANADA AND MEXICO. [02:39:28] OUR SUPPLY CHAINS ARE VERY INTEGRATED. [02:39:31] SO, CATTLE MIGHT BE RAISED IN [02:39:34] MEXICO OR CANADA AND THEN COME INTO THE UNITED STATES FOR PROCESSING. [02:39:38] PART OF THE PROBLEM WAS IN ORDER TO GET THAT MADE IN THE USA [02:39:41] LABEL, IT HAD TO BE BORN, RAISED [02:39:46] AND PROCESSED IN THE UNITED STATES. MEXICO AND CANADA WENT TO THE [02:39:50] WORLD TRADE ORGANIZATION AND SAID THIS IS A VIOLATION OF THE WTO. [02:39:54] ULTIMATELY, IT WAS WITHDRAWN [02:39:58] BACK IN 2016. [02:40:02] SO, THUNE AND ALSO SENATOR HOEVEN, THEY HAVE BEEN PUSHING [02:40:06] FOR THIS COUNTRY OF ORIGIN LABELING. [02:40:08] IT WOULD HAVE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH WTO STANDARDS. [02:40:13] SO THAT IT DOESN'T IMPACT OUR INTEGRATED SUPPLY CHAINS. [02:40:16] HOST: IT'S BOTH A DOMESTIC AND [02:40:20] INTERNATIONAL ISSUE. DAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA WRITES IN THAT IT SEEMS TO ME TARIFFS PLAY [02:40:24] AN IMPORTANT VALUE TO -- [02:40:28] IMPORTANT FACTOR TO PROVIDE BALANCE FOR DEMAND AND SUPPLY NEEDS. [02:40:31] IS THERE AN ARGUMENT TO BE MADE THAT THE WAY PRESIDENT IS [02:40:35] HANDLING THIS FACTORS IN A [02:40:39] CONVERSATION OF FAIRNESS, BOTH FOR U.S. FARMERS BUT ALSO FOR THE INTERNATIONAL SIDE OF [02:40:43] THINGS? GUEST: THAT'S AN INTERESTING [02:40:46] QUESTION. WE HAVE SEEN THE ADMINISTRATION [02:40:50] USE TARIFFS IN WAYS THAT WE HAVE NOT SEEN BEFORE. [02:40:53] THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL SECTORAL TARIFFS. [02:40:55] WHETHER THAT'S 232'S, 30 ONES, [02:40:59] WHICH ARE THE REPLACEMENT -- 300 [02:41:04] ONES, WHICH ARE THE REPLACEMENT FOR IEEPA. [02:41:08] BUT, WE HAVE SEEN THROUGH THE [02:41:12] TARIFFS ON CANADA THAT THERE HAS BEEN RETALIATION. [02:41:16] THAT RETALIATION ALWAYS TENDS TO FALL ON FARM COUNTRY. [02:41:19] THAT WAS THE CASE DURING THE FIRST TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. [02:41:23] CHINA RETALIATED THROUGH SOYBEANS. WE SAW THAT AGAIN. [02:41:28] BUT THEN PRESIDENT TRUMP MADE [02:41:29] THE DEAL WITH CHINA TO PURCHASE [02:41:33] SOYBEANS. AND CHINA HAS BEEN ON TARGET THUS FAR. [02:41:37] HOST: WITH THAT DEAL. GUEST: WITH THAT DEAL. [02:41:43] THEY ALSO AGREED TO BY $17 BILLION IN AGRICULTURAL GOODS. [02:41:46] THE NUMBERS ARE LESS CLEAR IF THEY'VE BEEN KEEPING UP ON THAT SIDE. [02:41:49] BUT THEY HAVE AT LEAST MET THE [02:41:51] PRELIMINARY NUMBER THAT THEY AGREED TO. [02:41:54] THERE HAS BEEN SOME -- WE ARE [02:41:58] SEEING THAT SECTOR GO UP A LITTLE BIT. BUT, THAT WAS AFTER IT WENT DOWN [02:42:02] IN THE FIRST PLACE. [02:42:05] HOST: LESS INTERESTING WITH XI [02:42:08] JINPING SET TO COME HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS TO VISIT [02:42:11] PRESIDENT TRUMP THE WHITE HOUSE. LET'S HEAR FROM A FEW MORE [02:42:15] COLORS. ERIC IS CALLING IN FROM NEW JERSEY ON THE REPUBLICAN LINE. [02:42:19] ERIC, YOU ARE ON WITH OUR GUEST. CALLER: CAN YOU HEAR ME? [02:42:22] HOST: YEP. LOUD AND CLEAR. [02:42:25] CALLER: I HAVE TWO POINTS. [02:42:29] DANNY BROUGHT UP SOME GOOD POINTS. [02:42:32] WHY DON'T THEY START A COMMITTEE [02:42:40] WHERE DIFFERENT FARMERS CAN MEET MONTHLY AND SAY WE HAVE TO WORK [02:42:43] ON XYZ AND KEEP IT UP MONTHLY. [02:42:49] MY SECOND QUESTION IS [02:42:58] [INDISCERNIBLE] CAN THE PUBLIC CONTRIBUTE TO [02:43:02] THAT? [02:43:03] HOST: RI, ERIC. [02:43:07] THANKS FOR WEIGHING IN. HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE KENNEDY [02:43:11] CENTER. I WILL LEAVE THAT FOR ANOTHER ASPECT OF THE CONVERSATION. I GUESS HE MEANT THAT THE [02:43:16] FEDERAL LEVEL OR NATIONALLY, [02:43:19] OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE GROUPS LIKE THE AMERICAN FARM BUREAU WHO ARE ADVOCATING FOR FARMERS. [02:43:25] DO YOU FEEL IN YOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH EVERYDAY FARMERS THAT THEY HAVE ENOUGH OF [02:43:28] A VOICE IN WASHINGTON AND ON THE NATIONAL STAGE? [02:43:32] GUEST: THAT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION. [02:43:35] I KNOW THAT THERE IS SOME [02:43:40] VETERAN AGRICULTURE SECTOR [02:43:42] LEADERS THAT TOGETHER A CAMPAIGN [02:43:47] CALLED RESTORE AMERICA AGRICULTURE. THEY ARE TRYING TO GET FARMERS [02:43:50] TO SPEAK OUT MORE. [02:43:52] I GO TO A BUNCH OF CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS. [02:43:56] THERE ARE ALWAYS FARMERS WHO ARE [02:44:00] THERE TO TALK TO THE PRESS AND [02:44:04] SHOW THEIR VOICE AND TRY TO GET IN FRONT OF CONGRESS. THE MAIN THING FARMERS ARE [02:44:07] SAYING, FIVE-YEAR FARM BILL, WE [02:44:10] ARE NOW ON OUR THIRD EXTENSION. [02:44:11] WE ARE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY A FOURTH EXTENSION, THOUGH THERE [02:44:15] IS A PUSH RIGHT NOW IN THE HOUSE [02:44:17] AND SENATE TO TRY TO GET THE [02:44:20] FARM BILL TO CONFERENCE. IT HAS NOT LEFT THE SENATE AGRICULTURE COMMITTEE YET. [02:44:24] HOST: AND THE DEADLINE IS SOON. [02:44:27] GUEST: IT'S A LITTLE INTERESTING. [02:44:30] THE FARM BILL EXPIRES SEPTEMBER 30. A LOT OF THE FUNDING WILL GO UP UNTIL THE NEW YEAR. [02:44:37] THERE IS A BUFFER. BUT ROUGHLY, THE SENATE COMES [02:44:40] BACK ON SEPTEMBER 14. WE KNOW SENATOR BOSEMAN WANTS TO [02:44:44] TRY AND DO ANOTHER VOTE. [02:44:45] HOST: HE'S THE HEAD OF THE AG [02:44:50] COMMITTEE. GUEST: YES. [02:44:54] THE COMMITTEE HAS A 1211 SPLIT. THEY PREVIOUSLY VOTED ON THE FARM BILL. [02:44:59] -- 12-11 SPLIT AND THEY PREVIOUSLY VOTED ON THE FARM BILL. [02:45:02] CHAIRMAN BOSEMAN, HE SAYS HE [02:45:06] THINKS HE CAN ADVANCE THE FARM [02:45:07] BILL WITHOUT SENATOR MITCH MCCONNELL. [02:45:11] HOWEVER, THAT WOULD MEAN GETTING [02:45:13] DEMOCRATS TO FLIP SIDES. [02:45:17] THAT SEEMS VERY UNLIKELY RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE OF DEMOCRATS [02:45:20] CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROVISIONS [02:45:23] REGARDING SNAP THAT WERE IN THE ONE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL. [02:45:29] THERE'S A LOT OF CHALLENGES RIGHT NOW. BUT THE BIGGEST THING IS A [02:45:32] FIVE-YEAR FARM BILL. [02:45:36] AND LESS RELIANCE ON AD HOC ASSISTANCE. NOW, THEY NEED IT BUT THEY WOULD [02:45:40] RATHER HAVE RISK MANAGEMENT TOOLS AND INVESTMENTS, SO THAT [02:45:42] THEY DON'T NEED TO HAVE THAT FARM AID. [02:45:46] HOST: FARMERS SAY THEY DON'T [02:45:50] WANT BAILOUTS FROM THE GOVERNMENT, THEY WANT MARKETS [02:45:53] THAT THEY CAN DO BUSINESS WITH. MITCH MCCONNELL HAS BEEN OUT BECAUSE OF HEALTH ISSUES. [02:45:57] HE'S RETIRING AT THE END OF THE YEAR BUT HE'S NOT BEEN ABLE TO GO ON THESE KEY THINGS. [02:46:01] DEMOCRATS LOOK AT IT LIKE THIS BE FOR IMPORT ISSUE AND HERE IS [02:46:05] ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE PRESIDENT DOING SOMETHING WE DISAGREE WITH SO WHY WOULD WE HELP OUT IN [02:46:09] COMMITTEE REPUBLICANS? AND THE ISSUE IS THE BROADER [02:46:13] FARM BILL. IT IS FASCINATING TO ME. A LOT OF PEOPLE CALLING IN ABOUT [02:46:17] THIS. SUSAN FROM BRUNSWICK, GEORGIA ON THE DEMOCRATIC LINE. GOOD MORNING. YOU ARE ON WITH US. [02:46:21] CALLER: THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. [02:46:25] I HAVE TWO COMMENTS I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE. THIS IS WHAT I BELIEVE IS BEHIND THIS. [02:46:29] WE HAVE A LOT OF U.S. BANKS, [02:46:33] INVESTORS INVESTED IN ARGENTINA. [02:46:35] AND I BELIEVE THAT THE BEEF THAT [02:46:38] THEY ARE GOING TO IMPORT TO OUR COUNTRY WAS GOING TO GO TO [02:46:42] CHINA. [02:46:45] CHINA JUST REFUSED ARGENTINA'S [02:46:48] BEEF BECAUSE IT WAS TOXIC, POISONED WITH A LOT OF CHEMICALS. [02:46:52] THEY DO NOT WANT THAT IN THEIR COUNTRY. [02:46:54] SO, BEING THAT OUR U.S. [02:46:58] INVESTORS ARE INVESTED IN ARGENTINA, RATHER THAN LOSING [02:47:02] THEIR INVESTMENT ON THAT BEEF, TRUMP IS GOING TO BRING THAT [02:47:06] BEEF INTO THIS COUNTRY, SO THEY DON'T LOSE ANY MONEY. [02:47:10] SO, IT'S ANOTHER BAILOUT FOR THESE INVESTORS. [02:47:14] YET, WHILE WE EAT THIS JUNK, WE [02:47:16] ARE GOING TO BE POISONED BY THIS BEEF. TRUMP DOESN'T REALLY CARE ABOUT [02:47:21] US. [02:47:21] MY OTHER POINT IS HE SCREWED THE [02:47:26] AGRICULTURE DEPARTMENT IN HIS FIRST TERM. [02:47:28] HE SCREWED THEM AGAIN WHEN, IN THIS TERM NOW WITH THE SOYBEANS. [02:47:32] LET'S NOT FORGET THAT. [02:47:35] HE ALSO BAILED OUT AMERICAN INVESTORS WITH THAT. [02:47:37] NOW, HE'S DOING IT AGAIN WITH THE BEEF. [02:47:40] HOW MANY TIMES ARE THESE PEOPLE [02:47:42] GOING TO PROMOTE REPUBLICANS? [02:47:48] I'M A VEGETARIAN. [02:47:50] I THINK IT'S TIME FOR PEOPLE TO [02:47:52] STOP EATING THIS STUFF AND KEEP [02:47:56] VOTING FOR TRUMP. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET ANYTHING OUT OF HIM. THANK YOU. [02:47:59] HOST: THANK YOU, SUSAN. [02:48:03] LET'S START WITH HER LAST POINT. I'M CURIOUS, HOW MANY YEARS HAVE [02:48:07] YOU BEEN COVERING AG OVERALL? [02:48:11] GUEST: I STARTED COVERING ALMOST [02:48:15] 2.5 YEARS AGO NOW. I'VE SEEN BOTH ITERATIONS OF THE [02:48:19] DRAFTS TO COME OUT OF THE FARM BILL. [02:48:21] THE 2024 FARM BILL THAT WAS [02:48:23] AUTHORED BY HOUSE AGRICULTURE [02:48:28] CHAIRMAN GIGI THOMPSON AND THEN THIS MOST RECENT VERSION. [02:48:32] HOST: I ASK BECAUSE TO HER [02:48:35] POINT, WHEN I TRAVELED AND WAS ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, I GOT [02:48:38] THIS QUESTION A LOT FROM VOTERS TO DOUBLE. THEY SAY IT SEEMS LIKE PRESIDENT [02:48:42] TRUMP AND HIS POLICIES ARE MAKING LIFE MORE DIFFICULT FOR [02:48:45] THE AG COMMUNITY ON A DAY-TO-DAY [02:48:51] BASIS BUT TIME A TIME -- TIME AND TIME AGAIN, THEY [02:48:55] OVERWHELMINGLY VOTE FOR HIM. [02:48:58] -- WHY THEY PULL THE LEVER FOR REPUBLICANS WHEN THERE'S CHAOS ON THE TRADE FRONT RELATING TO REPUBLICAN POLICIES? [02:49:02] GUEST: THAT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION. [02:49:06] I THINK IT COMES DOWN TO THIS PERSONAL POLITICS. [02:49:13] -- THEIR PERSONAL POLITICS AND [02:49:13] WHAT THEY ARE WILLING TO -- I [02:49:17] WOULD SAY WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO THEM AS A BOATER. [02:49:21] BUT YES, THE FARM COUNTRY HAS [02:49:24] BEEN, THEY SEE RETALIATION AS A [02:49:29] RESULT OF THE TARIFFS. [02:49:30] AND IT'S NOT JUST THAT COUNTRIES [02:49:35] ARE BUYING MORE OR LESS AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS. [02:49:37] THEY ALSO, WITH CANADA, THEY [02:49:41] TARIFFED AGRICULTURAL EQUIPMENT. THAT IS GOING TO RAISE PRICES FOR FARMERS. [02:49:43] HOST: WHICH DANNY BROUGHT UP, [02:49:47] JOHN DEERE PRICES AND EVERYTHING. PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE IF YOU DON'T COME FROM AN AGGIE [02:49:51] BACKGROUND, YOU DON'T REALIZE HOW MUCH A TRACTOR COSTS, [02:49:55] ESPECIALLY WITH THE TECHNOLOGY. WHAT ABOUT THE POINT WITH THE INVESTOR SIDE OF THINGS? [02:50:00] ANYTHING YOU PICKED UP IN YOUR REPORTING THAT ECHOES WHAT SHE WAS SAYING? [02:50:04] GUEST: I'M NOT SURE. [02:50:08] I THINK IT'S JUST A VERY [02:50:10] INTERESTING TIME FOR FARM [02:50:14] COUNTRY. THEY ARE STRUGGLING TO KEEP UP. [02:50:15] THEY WANT TO KEEP THEIR FAMILY FARMS. [02:50:18] WE ARE SEEING LESS TRUMP FARMERS. WE ARE SEEING A LOT MORE FARM [02:50:22] BANKRUPTCIES. [02:50:22] THEY NEED TO GET WHAT -- ANY [02:50:29] KIND OF BRIGHT SPOTS WHERE THEY CAN. [02:50:31] HOST: LET'S GO TO MASSACHUSETTS. [02:50:35] BRANDT IS CALLING. GOOD MORNING. YOU ARE ON WITH US. [02:50:38] CALLER: GOOD MORNING. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A STRAIGHT [02:50:42] UP, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE [02:50:43] AMERICAN HOUSEHOLD GOES TO FOOD [02:50:47] FOR MORE THAN 50 YEARS -- GOES [02:50:51] TO FOOD? FOR MORE THAN 50 YEARS, THE [02:50:55] GOVERNMENT WAS BRAGGING ABOUT [02:51:00] 50%. GO AHEAD AND ANSWER, NOW. [02:51:02] GUEST: I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. [02:51:06] I KNOW THAT 300,000 METRIC TONS, [02:51:10] WHICH ROUGHLY TRANSLATES TO [02:51:12] ABOUT 661 POUNDS OF BEEF, THAT [02:51:14] ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT 2% TO 3% OF OUR TOTAL BEEF. [02:51:22] IN GENERAL, IF THAT GIVES ANY TYPE OF PERSPECTIVE. [02:51:24] IT IS A SMALL NUMBER, IN TERMS OF OUR OVERALL BEEF PRODUCTION. [02:51:28] HOST: WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THE [02:51:33] TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, WHEN THEY RELEASED THE PROCLAMATION FOR THE BEEF IMPORTS, THEY WERE [02:51:37] EMPHASIZING TO ME WHEN I WAS TRYING TO COVER IT THAT THE [02:51:40] PRESIDENT IS SAYING THIS WILL IMMEDIATELY HELP LOWER THE PRICE OF GROUND BEEF. [02:51:43] BUT ON THE SAME FRONT, THEY EMPHASIZED THIS IS A SINGLE [02:51:47] DIGIT PERCENTAGE OF THE BEEF MARKET, WHICH SEEMS TO CONTRADICT ITSELF. [02:51:51] GUEST: WE WON'T KNOW IF THIS [02:51:54] WILL ACTUALLY LOWER BEEF PRICES UNTIL IT HAPPENS IN THE PROCLAMATION. [02:51:58] IT DID DIRECT AGRICULTURE [02:52:01] SECRETARY BROOKE ROLLINS AND USTR AMBASSADOR JASON GREER TO MONITOR WHETHER OR NOT EXPORTERS [02:52:05] ARE ACTUALLY DISCOUNTING BEEF OR [02:52:10] BEEF TRIMMINGS AT 25% AND THEN, [02:52:14] IF THEY ARE NOT, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO REPORT TO TRUMP AND [02:52:17] FIGURE OUT ADDITIONAL ACTIONS. BUT, THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO [02:52:22] HAVE A MINIMAL EFFECT. AND IT IS A THREE MONTH WINDOW. [02:52:26] SO, IT'S NOT, AGAIN, LONG TERM. [02:52:29] WE WILL PROBABLY SEE PRICES GO BACK TO WHERE THEY WERE UNLESS [02:52:33] THERE IS ADDITIONAL ACTIONS. [02:52:35] HOST: LET'S GO TO GARY FROM [02:52:39] SEVERN, MARYLAND ON THE REPUBLICAN LINE. GOOD MORNING, GARY. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [02:52:44] HI, THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. I'VE BEEN LISTENING PATIENTLY TO [02:52:48] YOUR GUEST AND C-SPAN, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO -- LIKE YOU TO [02:52:53] DO IF YOU WOULD, IS HAVE A GUEST [02:52:55] ON THAT IS JUST AS INTO THIS [02:52:59] SUBJECT AS THE GUEST, BUT WILL [02:53:02] COME FROM THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE ARGUMENT, IF YOU WILL. [02:53:06] THIS PERSON IS A RANCHER AND [02:53:10] THIS RANCHER TALKED TO PRESIDENT [02:53:11] TRUMP JUST LAST WEEK. [02:53:15] IT WAS ON THE INTERNET AND IT DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE, THE LEGS GOT [02:53:19] CUT OFF OF IT FOR PUBLICITY. [02:53:23] BUT THE MAN'S NAME IS GLENN BECK. YOU MAY KNOW HIM. [02:53:27] AS A BEEF RANCHER, HE BEGGED [02:53:28] PRESIDENT TRUMP TO PLEASE [02:53:37] LIGHTEN THE RAGS BECAUSE AS A [02:53:41] BEEF RANCHER HIMSELF, HE'S GETTING CROSSED AND SO ARE THE OTHERS, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T [02:53:45] PROCESS THEIR OWN CATTLE. AND IF THEY COULD, IT WOULD OPEN [02:53:49] UP THE MARKET IN A WHOLE DIFFERENT WAY. [02:53:53] AND IT'S GOTTEN TO WHERE WHAT HE [02:53:59] SAID -- [02:54:02] HE BEGGED. [02:54:06] AND PRESIDENT TRUMP IS OPEN TO THESE THOUGHTS AND HE WAS VERY [02:54:09] HUMBLE AND HE SAID HE WILL ABSOLUTELY LOOK INTO THIS. [02:54:14] AND THAT IS WHAT WE SHOULD EXPECT FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP IN [02:54:18] THE NEXT MONTH, IS WITH HIS [02:54:22] ADMINISTRATION, AS HE DELEGATES THINGS, AND I BELIEVE HE DOES [02:54:24] GREAT, YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT [02:54:28] TERRACE BEING BAD, THEY ARE NOT. [02:54:32] THEY HELP OUR COUNTRY ALL THE WAY AROUND. IF YOU WOULD HAVE GLENN BECK ON [02:54:34] YOUR SHOW, I THINK IT WOULD BE [02:54:38] GREAT TO AIR ON YOUR AUDIENCE, [02:54:39] TO US, ALL OF US, A WHOLE [02:54:42] DIFFERENT SIDE OF THIS ARGUMENT. HOST: GARY, THANK YOU. [02:54:47] I WILL FIRST POINT OUT THAT [02:54:49] OLIVIA IS NOT HERE TO REPRESENT ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER. [02:54:53] SHE'S A JOURNALIST AND AN EXPERT ON THE POLICY ASPECT OF THIS [02:54:56] WHICH IS WHY WE WERE EXCITED TO HAVE HER COME IN. HE DID BRING UP AN INTERESTING STORY. [02:55:01] GUEST: YESTERDAY, TRUMP POSTED [02:55:05] ON TRUTH SOCIAL THAT HE IS GOING [02:55:06] TO LOOK AT ALLOWING RANCHERS AND [02:55:10] FARMERS TO PROCESS THEIR OWN FOOD. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF DETAILS AT THIS TIME. [02:55:16] BUT, IT DOES RAISE QUESTIONS ABOUT FOOD SAFETY INSPECTIONS. [02:55:22] THEY ARE LOOKING AT THAT. WE COULD BE SEEING THAT IN THE COMING WEEKS AND MONTHS. [02:55:26] THERE IS ALSO SOME LEGISLATION OUT THERE TOO A. [02:55:28] WHETHER OR NOT WE SEE THIS GO [02:55:32] THROUGH, WITH A PROCLAMATION OR AN EXECUTIVE ORDER OR EVEN [02:55:35] THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE ROUTE. THAT IS ONE ASPECT THAT THE [02:55:39] ADMINISTRATION IS LOOKING AT. BUT THERE IS A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT HAVE TO BE ANSWERED ON THAT [02:55:44] REGARD, IN TERMS OF WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE AND HOW THE USDA WILL MANAGE FOOD INSPECTION. [02:55:48] HOST: WE HAVE THE PRESIDENT'S [02:55:52] TRUTH SOCIAL POST ABOUT THAT. I LISTENED TO THE PRESIDENT'S INTERVIEW ON GLENN BECK -- THE [02:55:56] GLENN BECK SHOW AND GLENN BECK [02:56:00] MADE THE EMOTIONAL PLEA SAYING I HAVE MY OWN RANCH THAT I RUN AND WE ARE GETTING DESTROYED BY [02:56:06] THESE MEAT PROCESSING PLANTS. AND HE SAID THE PRESIDENT SEEMED [02:56:09] TO BE TAKEN ABACK BY IT. I WAS LIKE WOW, LET ME LOOK INTO [02:56:12] THAT AND THEN A COUPLE OF DAYS LATER, IT WAS THIS TRUTH SOCIAL [02:56:16] POST. THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF SOMEBODY REACHING OUT TO HIM, A [02:56:19] CONSERVATIVE MEDIA ALLY BUT GETTING HIM INSTANTLY. THERE ARE A LOT OF UNKNOWNS [02:56:23] ABOUT HOW QUICKLY AND WHAT THAT [02:56:25] MEANS AND WHAT FOLKS WHO HAVE [02:56:28] THEIR OWN RANCH MIGHT BE -- TO [02:56:32] IN THE NEAR FUTURE. [02:56:35] BARBARA ON THE DEMOCRATIC LINE, GOOD MORNING. YOU ARE ON WITH US. [02:56:38] CALLER: HI, YES. [02:56:41] I WANT TO SAY FIRST OFF, I [02:56:44] APPRECIATE IF A PERSON WANTS TO [02:56:45] RAISE BEEF, THE FACT IS THEY [02:56:49] NEED TO HAVE THE LAND THEMSELVES AND OWN IT. [02:56:54] I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE ROUNDUP [02:56:55] OF THE HORSES. [02:56:58] PROJECT 2025 SAID THEY ARE ROUNDING THEM UP BECAUSE OF THE [02:57:02] RANCHERS THAT WANT THE LAND, FOR THEIR BEEF TO GRAZE ON. [02:57:05] THOSE SOURCES DON'T EAT A WHOLE LOT. [02:57:11] THEY SAY THE HORSES HAVE NOT BEEN HERE A LONG TIME BUT A [02:57:14] HORSE -- THEY HAVE BEEN ON THIS [02:57:20] EARTH FOR 50,000 YEARS. LONGER THAN HUMANS. [02:57:23] I AM CONCERNED BECAUSE OF HORSES [02:57:27] THAT ARE SOLD TO A BUYER FOR $25 EACH. [02:57:29] AND THEN THAT BUYER, BECAUSE WE [02:57:32] HAVE A HORSE ACT THAT SAYS YOU [02:57:37] CAN'T DO THAT. [02:57:44] THEY ARE ENTITLED TO GOVERNMENT LAND. AND THEN THE BUYERS BUY THEM UP [02:57:48] AND THEY TAKE THEM TO SLAUGHTER HOUSES AND THEY ARE SENT TO [02:57:52] MEXICO, SENT TO CANADA. THEY ARE SENT OVERSEAS. [02:57:56] THE MEAT IS GOING TO BE GROUND [02:57:58] UP AND SENT BACK, THE GROUND [02:58:02] BEEF THAT YOU'RE EATING FROM OTHER COUNTRIES. [02:58:09] YOU CAN'T TASTE IT, UNLESS IT'S PURE HORSE ME, THE DIFFERENCE [02:58:13] BETWEEN BEEF AND THAT. IT REALLY BOTHERS ME. [02:58:16] PROJECT 2025 SAYS ROUND THEM UP. [02:58:22] THEY ARE BREAKING THE LAW AGAIN. [02:58:26] THEY HAVE TO GO TO CONGRESS TO GO AROUND THESE THINGS. [02:58:28] HOST: THANK YOU FOR WEIGHING IN. [02:58:32] I WILL SNEAK IN ONE MORE CALL HER AND GET OLIVIA'S CLOSING CLOTS. [02:58:35] MARY FROM OHIO ON THE REPUBLICAN LINE. I CAN GIVE YOU 30 SECONDS SO I CAN LET OUR GUEST RESPOND. [02:58:39] GO AHEAD. CALLER: THE U.S. DID HAVE [02:58:43] MANDATORY COUNTRY OF ORIGIN LABELING FOR BEEF IMPORTS BUT IT WAS AMERICA'S TOP TRADING [02:58:48] PARTNERS, CANADA AND MEXICO, WHO ARGUED TO THE WTO THAT IT WAS [02:58:52] UNFAIR AND DISCRIMINATED AGAINST THEM. AND OUR CONGRESS QUICKLY HAD TO REPEAL THAT LAW. [02:58:57] IT IS CANADA AND MEXICO THAT WE CAN THANK FOR LOSING THE ORIGIN LABEL. [02:59:01] THANK YOU. I WILL LISTEN. HOST: THANKS FOR KEEPING IT [02:59:04] QUICK. YOU ALLUDED TO THAT EARLIER, ABOUT THE USMCA. [02:59:07] THIS LAST MINUTE, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO BE WATCHING, MOVING [02:59:10] FORWARD ON THIS BEEF STORY BUT ALSO THE BROADER AD STATE OF THE [02:59:14] ECONOMY RIGHT NOW -- AG STATE OF [02:59:19] THE ECONOMY RIGHT NOW? [02:59:20] GUEST: WHETHER OR NOT WE GET [02:59:23] ANSWERS ON THIS 300,000 METRIC TONS THAT COMES IN. [02:59:29] IT'S GOING TO BE COMING IN OVER [02:59:30] THE COURSE OF THREE MONTHS, [02:59:36] 100,000 METRIC TONS PER MONTH. THE QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT [02:59:38] IT WILL IMPACT PRICES AND IF IT [02:59:43] DOESN'T IMPACT PRICES, WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS THAT THE [02:59:46] ADMINISTRATION IS GOING TO DO? BUT THEN FROM A BROADER [02:59:50] PERSPECTIVE, RIGHT NOW, WE ARE [02:59:52] IN THE MIDDLE OF THE USMCA RENEGOTIATION. [02:59:57] AND WITH THE TARIFFS AND THE [03:00:00] RETALIATION, THE U.S. AND CANADA [03:00:04] , HOW THIS WILL IMPACT [03:00:07] NEGOTIATIONS GOING FORWARD. [03:00:08] THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES IN THE [03:00:12] USMCA THAT IMPACT FARMERS AND THE DAIRY INDUSTRY SPECIFICALLY. THOSE ARE THINGS TO KEEP AND ON. [03:00:18] -- KEEP AN EYE OUT ON. [03:00:24] WE ARE LOOKING AT THE TARIFF RETALIATION. [03:00:27] HOST: I'M GOING TO CUT YOU OFF IF THAT'S OK. [03:00:31] OLIVIA BRIDGES OF AGRIPULSE, [03:00:36] THANKS FOR WEIGHING IN TODAY. CEASEFIRE IS UP NEXT. [03:00:39] ♪ [03:00:48] [CAPTIONS COPYRIGHT NATIONAL CABLE SATELLITE CORP. 2026] [CAPTIONING PERFORMED BY THE [03:00:52] NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, WHICH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ITS CAPTION CONTENT AND ACCURACY. [03:00:54] VISIT NCICAP.ORG]