CSPAN — Washington Journal 09152026 20260915 110000 UTC 2198 transcript segments Original Broadcaster Captioning (Enhanced) Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:01] MARQUETTE ABOUT EXPECTED TESTIMONY FROM DIRECTOR KASH [00:00:04] PATEL APPEARING BEFORE THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE. [00:00:07] THEN THE LATEST ON THE IRAN. [00:00:09] THE DEBATE OVER DEREGULATION AND [00:00:11] DATA CENTERS AND CONGRESSIONAL NEWS OF THE WEEK WITH TEXAS [00:00:15] DEMOCRATIC AL GREEN AND, THE CHAIR OF HUMANS. [00:00:18] FIRST, AMY TALKS ABOUT HER NEW [00:00:22] ORGANIZATION'S TO GIVE AMERICANS A SAY IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND [00:00:24] EXPANSION OF AI. [00:00:26] WASHINGTON JOURNAL STARTS [00:00:30] CABLE SATELLITE CORP. 2026] [CAPTIONING PERFORMED BY THE [00:00:35] NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, WHICH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ITS CAPTION CONTENT AND ACCURACY. VISIT NCICAP.ORG] [00:00:39] HOST: TODAY IS TUESDAY, [00:00:40] SEPTEMBER 15TH, WELCOME TO "WASHINGTON JOURNAL". [00:00:43] A LATE NIGHT RULING FROM THE [00:00:46] SUPREME COURT REJECTED PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP'S LATEST EFFORTS TO [00:00:50] ENACTED NEW MAIL-IN VOTING [00:00:52] RESTRICTIONS AHEAD OF NOVEMBER'S ELECTION. [00:00:56] IN KENTUCKY, MITCH MCDONNELL [00:00:59] RETURNED TO CONGRESS AFTER A [00:01:01] THREE MONTH ABSENCE TRIGGERING A [00:01:04] NEW CONVERSATION ABOUT AGE AND HEALTH OF LAWMAKERS. [00:01:08] AND THE DEBATE ABOUT A.I. RAGES ON. [00:01:12] THOSE ARE SOME OF THE STORIES WE'RE FOLLOWING THIS MORNING. [00:01:15] WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU. WHAT IS YOUR TOP NEWS STORY OF THE DAY? [00:01:19] HERE'S HOW YOU JOIN ON THE [00:01:26] CONVERSATION. DEMOCRATS 202-748-8000 [00:01:29] REPUBLICANS 202-748-8001 AND INDEPENDENTS 202-748-8002. [00:01:33] YOU CAN ALSO REACH US BY TEXT [00:01:37] MESSAGE AT 202-748-8003. [00:01:42] INCLUDE YOUR FIRST NAME, CITY AND STATE, AND FIND US ON SOCIAL [00:01:46] MEDIA, OUR FACEBOOK IS [00:01:48] FACEBOOK.COM OR INSTAGRAM AT [00:01:55] INSTAGRAM CWG. [00:01:57] THE DEBATE OVER ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND THE GUARDRAILS [00:02:01] THAT SHOULD BE PLACED ON IT RAGES ON IN WASHINGTON D.C. [00:02:04] CONTINUING WITH AN UNLIKELY PAIR. [00:02:07] INDEPENDENT SENATOR BERNIE [00:02:09] SANDERS AND FORMER TRUMP ADVISER [00:02:12] STEVE BANNON ARE SET TO APPEAR [00:02:13] AT A PRO-HUMAN A.I. CONFERENCE [00:02:17] IN THE CAPITAL CITY AS PRESIDENT [00:02:20] TRUMP TWEETED OVERNIGHT -- OR TRUTH SOCIAL, SLAMMING CRITICS [00:02:24] OF A.I.. SAYING THE A.I. HOAX BEING [00:02:27] PERPETRATED BY THE RADICAL LEFT [00:02:31] DEMOCRATS IS REMINISCENT OF [00:02:35] THEIR GLOBAL SCAM WHERE NOT SO LONG AGO EVERYONE IS GOING TO [00:02:39] DIE FROM EXTREME HEAT. WHAT? [00:02:42] MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. THAT WAS ONE OF SEVERAL TRUTH [00:02:46] SOCIALS THAT THE PRESIDENT [00:02:49] PUBLISHED LAST NIGHT. NOW, DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN RAILING [00:02:52] AGAINST A.I. CALLING FOR A SLOW [00:02:55] DOWN HERE AS SENATE MINORITY [00:02:59] LEADER CHUCK SCHUMER SAYING CONGRESS NEEDS TO ACT. [00:03:02] >> MAY -- ON THE WARNING OF A.I. [00:03:13] HAS NEVER BEEN CLEARER BUT WHAT IS PRESIDENT TRUMP'S RESPONSE TO [00:03:18] REGULATE A.I.? TRUMP SAYS THE ONLY CONTROL OR [00:03:22] GUARDRAILS THAT A.I. NEEDS IS A [00:03:24] STRONG AND SMART HIGH IQ PRESIDENT. [00:03:27] WELL, EVEN IF WE HAD A HIGH IQ [00:03:30] PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW, AND WE SURELY DON'T, IT WOULDN'T BE [00:03:34] ENOUGH. CONGRESS CANNOT AFFORD TO TURN A [00:03:38] BLIND EYE TO A.I. [00:03:41] TODAY I AM CALLING FOR AN ALL [00:03:45] SENATORS CLASSIFIED BRIEFING WITH TOP ADMINISTRATION [00:03:48] OFFICIALS TO ADDRESS THE DANGERS [00:03:50] OF UNCHECKED A.I. DEVELOPMENT [00:03:53] AND HOLD THE ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNTABLE FOR ITS LACK OF [00:03:56] ACTION TO PROTECT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. [00:03:59] I'VE LONG ARGUED WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT THE U.S. REMAIN THE [00:04:02] GLOBAL LEADER IN INNOVATION AND [00:04:06] SECURITY. WE ALL KNOW THE TRANSFORMATIONAL [00:04:10] INNOVATION THAT CAN COME FROM A.I. FOR ADVANCES IN MEDICINE, [00:04:14] SCIENCE, EDUCATION, RESEARCH, AND SO MUCH MORE. [00:04:17] BUT I'VE ALSO ALWAYS SAID THAT [00:04:20] IF OUR ECONOMY AND SOCIETY IS TO [00:04:23] REAP THE POTENTIAL BENEFITS OF [00:04:25] A.I. WE NEED SUSTAINABLE [00:04:30] INNOVATION AS WELL. THAT MEANS PUTTING GUARDRAILS IN [00:04:32] TO MITIGATE THE RISKS OF THIS [00:04:35] TECHNOLOGY AND EARN THE PUBLIC'S TRUST, WHICH IS CRITICAL TO [00:04:38] AMERICAN LEADERSHIP. IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS THE [00:04:41] IMPORTANCE OF THESE STRONG GUARDRAILS HAVE BECOME MORE [00:04:45] APPARENT. JUST THIS WEEKEND LEADING VOICES FROM THE A.I. INDUSTRY CAME [00:04:49] TOGETHER TO SOUND THE ALARM AND [00:04:51] EMBRACE A SLOWER DEVELOPMENT OF [00:04:53] A.I. TO AVOID DAMAGING OUTCOMES. [00:04:55] THIS COMES AFTER WEEKS OF REVELATION OF A.I. GOING ROGUE [00:04:59] AND WORKING TOGETHER TO HACK [00:05:01] WEBSITES WITHOUT HUMAN CONTROL. [00:05:04] AND OF REAL CONCERNS OF THE [00:05:08] POTENTIAL CATASTROPHIC RISKS OF UNCHECKED A.I. [00:05:12] HOST: THAT WAS SENATE DEMOCRATIC LEADER CHUCK SCHUMER [00:05:15] TALKING ABOUT THE NEED, HE [00:05:17] BELIEVES FOR CONGRESS TO STEP IN [00:05:21] AND SET GUARDRAILS AROUND [00:05:25] ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. WE'RE ASKING WHAT YOUR TOP NEWS [00:05:28] STORY OF THE DAY IS, HAMILTON FROM YORK, PENNSYLVANIA, AN [00:05:32] INDEPENDENT. GOOD MORNING WHAT'S YOUR TOP [00:05:33] NEWS STORY OF THE DAY? [00:05:38] CALLER: GOOD MORNING, JW ON A [00:05:40] HIGH NOTE, HOW ABOUT THOSE BEARS THIS WEEKEND. [00:05:42] HOST: DON'T GET ME EXCITED. [00:05:44] >> CALLER: I WAS SAYING THAT. [00:05:47] MINE IS A.I. AND THE FACT THAT [00:05:51] IT COULD DESTROY THE WORLD AND [00:05:54] WHO DO WE HAVE DEFENDING IT? [00:06:00] THE MOST, OUR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, WHO SEEMS TO HAVE [00:06:03] INVESTED IN A.I. AND THE TECH [00:06:07] BROS. [00:06:09] HE CAN'T BE AN OBJECTIVE PERSON [00:06:13] ON THIS THING, AND THIS THING [00:06:16] COULD AFFECT ALL OF US IF IT GETS OUT OF THE BOX. [00:06:20] HE'S GOT A MEETING WITH PING [00:06:23] FROM CHINA AND IT COULD GO VERY, VERY BAD. [00:06:27] HE'S USING CHINA AS A SCAPEGOAT [00:06:30] AGAIN WHEN WE SHOULD CONNECT WITH CHINA AND PUT A CAP ON THIS [00:06:34] THING AND PUT A CAP ON IT FAST [00:06:36] BECAUSE IF WE DON'T -- HEY, IT [00:06:38] COULD GO VERY, VERY BAD. [00:06:41] HAVE A GREAT DAY, AMERICA. [00:06:43] AND THANKS JW FOR BEING PRETTY [00:06:46] THIS MORNING. HOST: THAT'S HAMILTON FROMWORK, [00:06:50] PENNSYLVANIA. IT'S NOT JUST DEMOCRATS SAYING MORE GUARDRAILS SHOULD GO UP [00:06:53] AROUND A.I., ALSO REPUBLICANS HAVE JOINED IN, TAKE A LISTEN TO [00:06:57] HOUSE SPEAKER MIKE JOHNSON YESTERDAY IN CAPITOL HILL WHEN [00:07:00] ASKED WHAT HIS CAUCUS SHOULD DO [00:07:03] TO RESPOND TO THE GROWING CONVERSATION. [00:07:06] >> CONGRESS, I THINK, HAS A ROLE, RESPONSIBILITY, BUT THE [00:07:10] PEOPLE WHO ARE PROVIDING AND CREATING THESE PRODUCTS [00:07:13] OBVIOUSLY HAVE RESPONSIBILITY AS WELL. THERE IS A CORPORATE RESPONSIBILITY AND AN [00:07:17] EXPECTATION THAT THEY WILL PROVIDE SAFE PRODUCTS. [00:07:20] YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF OPINIONS ON THIS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF [00:07:24] DAYS. I'VE HAD AN OPINION AS WELL, AS [00:07:26] YOU ALL KNOW WE BEGAN THE A.I. TASK FORCE, A BIPARTISAN WORKING [00:07:30] GROUP ALMOST IMMEDIATELY AFTER I BECAME SPEAKER I THINK IT WAS [00:07:33] FEBRUARY OF '24, SO A FEW MONTHS AFTER I GOT THE GAVEL. THEY WORKED FOR A LONG, LONG [00:07:37] TIME. WE HAD AN EQUAL NUMBER OF REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS ON THE [00:07:41] COMMITTEE. THEY CAME UP WITH A REPORT, THEY [00:07:44] HAVE IDEAS ON HOW TO DO IT. EACH OF THE A.I. PLATFORMS HAVE [00:07:48] IDEAS, NONE OF THEM ARE CONSISTENT. [00:07:51] REMEMBERING THE A.I. PLATFORMS [00:07:54] ARE COMPETITORS AS WELL. WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT [00:07:57] THIS. WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN OUR EDGE OVER CHINA, THAT'S WHAT THE [00:08:01] PRESIDENT IS LASER FOCUSED ON AND WE ARE AS WELL. [00:08:04] AS IT IS SAID WHOEVER ACHIEVES [00:08:08] AUTOMATED GENERAL INTELLIGENCE FIRST PROBABLY HAS AN EDGE OVER [00:08:11] EVERYBODY AROUND THE WORLD -- >> BUT THE PRESIDENT -- >> HOLD ON JUST A SECOND. [00:08:15] IF WE SLOW DOWN INNOVATION TOO [00:08:17] MUCH, AMERICAN INNOVATION, WE LOSE THAT CRITICAL RACE. [00:08:21] SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE RUSHED INTO. WE HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT [00:08:25] THIS, DELIBERATING IT, RESEARCHING IT, DISCUSSING IT [00:08:28] FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. AS YOU KNOW, I CALLED FOR A MEETING OF THE PLATFORM [00:08:32] PROVIDERS. I THINK THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO SUMMON EVERYONE TOGETHER [00:08:35] PROBABLY AT THE WHITE HOUSE, I EXPECT THAT HAPPENS AT THE END [00:08:38] OF THIS WEEK, EARLY NEXT WEEK. THAT HASN'T BEEN SCHEDULED YET [00:08:42] BUT THERE WILL BE A PROCESS. THERE WILL BE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE [00:08:46] COMPANIES TO MAINTAIN SAFETY AND WHAT ROLE, IF ANY, THE FWOVT HAS [00:08:50] TO PLAY IN THAT. , BUT AGAIN WE DID NOT WANT TO [00:08:53] JUMP IN, THE REFLEX OF [00:08:56] LEGISLATIVE BODIES IS COVER THINGS UP WITH RED TAPE AND [00:09:00] HYPER LEGISLATION, IF YOU DO [00:09:02] THAT, YOU LOSE YOUR EDGE AND [00:09:06] THAT'S A CONCERN FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. [00:09:08] >> THE PRESIDENT SAID THERE [00:09:11] SHOULD BE NO GUARDRAILS OTHER THAN HIMSELF. >> THAT'S THE DISCUSSION THAT [00:09:14] THE PRESIDENT HAS WITH THE A.I. PROVIDERS AND US AS WE GATHER [00:09:18] FOR THE MEETING. HOST: THAT WAS HOUSE SPEAKER MIKE JOHNSON PREVIEWING A [00:09:21] MEETING WITH THE EXECUTIVES AND [00:09:25] DISCUSSING WHAT THE REPUBLICANS [00:09:27] SHOULD DO WITH REGARD TO [00:09:29] GUARDRAILS AROUND A.I. AND TECH COMPANIES. [00:09:32] CARL FROM AUGUSTA, MAINE, GOOD [00:09:35] MORNING WHAT'S YOUR TOP NEWS STORY OF THE DAY? [00:09:39] CALLER: I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE MY EXPERIENCE WITH ROBOCALLS AND [00:09:43] MAKING PURCHASES OVER THE [00:09:45] INTERNET AND USING A CREDIT CARD [00:09:48] AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN EXPERIENCING ROBOCALLS ALL HOURS [00:09:51] OF THE DAY AND NIGHT FROM PEOPLE [00:09:53] WANTING TO COLLECT MONEY OR [00:09:56] DONATIONS OR -- DOESN'T THE [00:10:00] AMERICAN PUBLIC RECOGNIZE THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF A.I. IS [00:10:04] CONSTANT BARRAGE OF HARASSMENT [00:10:07] PHONE CALLS EVERY DAY? [00:10:10] I RECEIVE PROBABLY 10 TO 2521 -- [00:10:15] I RECEIVE PROBABLY 10 TO 12 PHONE CALLS A DAY, AND A LOT OF [00:10:19] TIMES I DON'T ANSWER THE PHONE CALLS. [00:10:23] I BLAME SPECTRUM FOR PART OF [00:10:25] THAT BECAUSE ONCE ANY PURCHASE [00:10:29] IS MADE OVER THE INTERNET OR ON [00:10:34] PHONE CALL, A PHONE CALL APPEARS [00:10:37] EVERY HOUR OR TWO HOURS WITH [00:10:39] REGARD TO RECENT PURCHASES ON THE CREDIT CARD. [00:10:42] SO I HOPE EVERYBODY IS READY FOR THIS A.I. AND CAN UNDERSTAND [00:10:45] THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING. [00:10:48] YOU KNOW, HALF OF THE ROBOCALLS [00:10:50] YOU RECEIVE, THEY'RE TRANSFERRED [00:10:52] TO A CONTRACTOR IN ANOTHER [00:10:55] COUNTRY SOMEWHERE TO RECEIVE OR [00:10:57] TRY TO ATTAIN YOUR FINANCIAL INFORMATION. [00:11:01] SO WE'RE CREATING OUR OWN MESS. [00:11:05] I HAVE HAD A PERSONAL CELL [00:11:07] PHONE, BUT I'M NOT HOOKED UP TO THE INTERNET. [00:11:10] I'M NOT HOOKED UP TO ANY [00:11:13] COMPUTER, FACEBOOK, AND THAT'S BEEN 40 YEARS AND I'VE BEEN [00:11:17] PERFECTLY HAPPY. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE SHOULD [00:11:20] JUST PUT THEIR CELL PHONES DOWN FOR ONE DAY -- [00:11:23] HOST: ALL RIGHT, CARL, I HAVE TO JUMP IN HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE [00:11:27] A GUEST READY TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS HAPPENING [00:11:29] LATER ON TODAY. LATER ON TODAY ON CSPAN, [00:11:34] ACTUALLY. WE WILL BE COVERING FBI DIRECTOR [00:11:37] KASH PATEL ON CAPITOL HILL WHO WILL TESTIFY BEFORE THE SENATE [00:11:41] JUDICIARY COMMITTEE ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT OPERATIONS AND [00:11:44] PRIORITIES YOU CAN WATCH THAT [00:11:47] LIVE HERE ON CSPAN AT 9:00 A.M. [00:11:50] EASTERN ON CSPAN, CSPAN 3 AND TO [00:11:53] TALK ABOUT THAT WITH US WE HAVE [00:11:56] CONGRESSIONAL REPORTER FROM POLITICO CHRIS MARQUETTE. [00:11:59] THANKS FOR BEING WITH US THIS MORNING. [00:12:01] GUEST: THANKS FOR HAVING ME. HOST: SO KASH PATEL IS TESTIFYING THIS MORNING BEFORE [00:12:05] THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE. WHAT'S THE ON AGENDA AND WHY [00:12:09] NOW? >> WE'RE EXPECTING DEMOCRATS TO [00:12:12] DIG INTO WHAT THEY SEE AS THE [00:12:15] WEAPONIZATION OF THE FBI, ELECTION INTERFERENCE EFFORTS. [00:12:18] WHAT THEY SEE AS A LACK OF [00:12:21] I.C.E. PROSECUTIONS FOR BAD [00:12:24] ACTORS FROM I.C.E. AGENTS, STAFFING ISSUES AMONG THE [00:12:28] BUREAU. [00:12:29] AND THE ARCTIC FROST [00:12:33] INVESTIGATION, THAT JACK SMITH INVESTIGATION AND THE HANDLING OF THE EPSTEIN FILES. [00:12:37] WE'RE GOING TO EXPECT TO SEE [00:12:40] CHAIRMAN CHUCK GRASSLY, THE REPUBLICAN FROM IOWA AND A BUNCH [00:12:44] OF HIS COLLEAGUES ON THE [00:12:47] REPUBLICAN SIDE ARE GOING TO [00:12:49] LOOK TO DEFEND THE FBI'S WORK [00:12:52] AND HIGHLIGHT THE FBI'S [00:12:54] SUCCESSFUL EFFORTS TO DRIVE A [00:12:57] HISTORIC DROP IN VIOLENT CRIME [00:12:59] AND SUPPORT WHISTLEBLOWERS A [00:13:03] GRASSLY SPOKESPERSON TOLD US. AND HE'S ALSO LOOKING TO BUILD [00:13:07] ON HIS OVERSIGHT THAT GRASSLEY [00:13:09] HAS CONDUCTED, EXPOSING HOW DISCREDITED LAW ENFORCEMENT AND [00:13:13] INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS HAVE WORKED BEHIND THE SCENES TO [00:13:16] TARGET AND SMEAR PRESIDENT TRUMP AND REPUBLICANS OVER THE PAST DECADE. [00:13:20] AND THAT'S WHAT A GRASSLY [00:13:23] SPOKESPERSON TOLD US. SO WE'LL SEE A LOT OF DEMOCRATS [00:13:27] ATTACKING THE JOB THAT KASH PATEL HAS DONE SO FAR LEADING [00:13:30] THE FBI AND REPUBLICANS LOOKING TO KIND OF JUMP IN AND SAY, HEY, [00:13:33] HE'S ACTUALLY DOING A GOOD JOB. [00:13:37] HOST: I WANT TO DIG IN ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE IN A SECOND BUT [00:13:40] FIRST, DEMOCRATS HAVE, YOU KNOW, [00:13:42] ACCUSED AND PATEL IS FACING [00:13:44] SCRUTINY RIGHT NOW OVER HIS [00:13:46] TRIPS, ALLEGEDLY MISUSING AGENCY RESOURCES. [00:13:49] REMIND OUR VIEWERS WHAT EXACTLY IS AT ISSUE HERE. [00:13:53] GUEST: YEAH, SO THERE WERE A [00:13:55] LOT OF NEWS REPORTS ABOUT HIM [00:13:59] TRAVELING ON THE FBI DIME TO, [00:14:03] YOU KNOW, PARTY WITH THE USA [00:14:06] HOCKEY TEAM. HE WAS FILMED SLUGGING BEERS [00:14:10] WITH THE TEAM AFTER ONE OF THEIR WINS. [00:14:13] YOU KNOW, JETTING OFF TO FOLLOW [00:14:18] THE PERFORMANCES OF HIS GIRLFRIEND WHO'S A COUNTRY MUSIC [00:14:22] MUSICIAN AND A BUNCH OF [00:14:26] DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE JET AND, YOU KNOW, ALLEGATIONS OF [00:14:30] MISSPENDING OFFICIAL RESOURCES. [00:14:32] AND THAT'S AN AREA THAT SENATOR [00:14:37] DICK DURBIN, THE RANKING MEMBER [00:14:40] ON THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE AND HIS COLLEAGUES ARE [00:14:44] LOOKING TO DIG INTO. A SPOKESPERSON FOR DURBIN TOLD [00:14:48] US THEY'RE LOOKING TO HOLD [00:14:50] DIRECTOR PATEL ACCOUNTABLE FOR [00:14:52] HIS FAILED LEADERSHIP AND THAT [00:14:55] INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, THE MISUSE [00:14:57] OF FBI RESOURCES, THE JET INSTANCES I MENTIONED AND [00:15:01] ALLEGATIONS OF DRINKING ON THE JOB, WHICH THERE HAVE BEEN [00:15:04] PUBLIC REPORTS OF. [00:15:06] HOST: DEMOCRATS HAVE STARTED TO PREVIEW SOME OF THE [00:15:10] INVESTIGATIONS THEY PLAN TO LAUNCH SHOULD THEY RETAKE THE HOUSE COME NOVEMBER. [00:15:13] SO STARTING IN JANUARY. SHOULD VIEWERS BE WATCHING THIS [00:15:17] HEARING BELIEVING THIS IS A PREVIEW OF THINGS THAT PERHAPS [00:15:20] COULD COME IF DEMOCRATS WERE SUCCESSFUL IN NOVEMBER? [00:15:23] GUEST: YEAH. I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THAT [00:15:27] I THINK DEMOCRATS ARE THINKING, [00:15:29] THEY'RE SEEMING A LOT MORE [00:15:32] BULLISH ON THEIR ABILITY TO TAKE [00:15:34] THE HOUSE AND, AS YOU MENTIONED, [00:15:37] INVESTIGATIONS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING INTO, ROBERT GARCIA IS [00:15:41] EXPECTED TO TAKE THE GAVEL IF [00:15:43] THEY DO FLIP THE HOUSE ON HOUSE [00:15:47] OVERSIGHT AND JAMIE RASKIN ON JUDICIARY. [00:15:51] AND A BIG FOCUS FOR THEM IS [00:15:53] TRUMP FAMILY CORRUPTION. [00:15:55] AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE [00:15:58] DEFINITELY FOCUSED ON THE WAY IN [00:16:00] WHICH THEIR AGENCY LEADERS ARE [00:16:03] MISUSING FUNDS. [00:16:05] I'M SURE KASH PATEL WILL COME UP [00:16:07] IN THE -- IN THE AREA OF WHAT [00:16:12] RASKIN AND GARCIA ARE LOOKING TO [00:16:15] INVESTIGATE FOR SURE. [00:16:16] HOST: NOW, I KNOW THAT YOU SAID [00:16:19] THAT CHUCK GRASSLY LEADERSHIP [00:16:23] THERE, A REPUBLICAN IS GOING TO TRY TO PROP UP PATEL AND THE JOB [00:16:27] HE'S DONE AT THE FBI BUT WHAT [00:16:29] OTHER REPUBLICANS SHOULD WE BE LOOKING OUT FOR WHEN IT COMES TO [00:16:32] THIS HEARING? [00:16:38] >>. GUEST: I THINK A PERSON ON THE PANEL WHO'S PARTICULARLY [00:16:41] ELOQUENT AND HE'S GOOD IN [00:16:43] HEARINGS, HE'S CHARISMATIC, JOSH HAWLEY. [00:16:47] HE ALWAYS BRINGS A LEVEL OF [00:16:49] ENTHUSIASM AND DEFINITELY WHEN [00:16:52] HE SPEAKS, YOU DEFINITELY PAY ATTENTION BECAUSE OF THE WAY [00:16:55] THAT, YOU KNOW, HE'S A TALENTED [00:16:58] LITIGATOR, USED TO BE ATTORNEY GENERAL FOR MISSOURI AND IS [00:17:03] TALENTED IN THAT WAY. [00:17:05] ERIC SCHMIDT HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, [00:17:08] PRETTY VOICEFUL ON THE -- ON THE [00:17:10] REPUBLICAN SIDE AS WELL AND THEN [00:17:13] KATY BRIT. [00:17:15] HOST: NOW, SEPARATELY, [00:17:17] PRESIDENT TRUMP'S ALLY JOE [00:17:23] DIGINOVA RESIGNED ON FRIDAY, [00:17:27] WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED? GUEST: I THINK THAT'S PART OF A [00:17:31] LARGER ISSUE WITH THE FBI THAT A LOT OF DEMOCRATS ARE LOOKING [00:17:35] INTO. AND THAT VERY WELL COULD COME UP [00:17:38] IN THE HEARING. [00:17:40] I TALKED TO SENATOR RICHARD [00:17:43] BLUMENTHAL, WHO'S A DEMOCRAT [00:17:44] FROM CONNECTICUT ALSO ON THE [00:17:49] JUDICIARY PANEL AND HE SAID HE [00:17:50] WANTS TO FOCUS ON HOW KASH PATEL [00:17:55] DISBANDED LAW ENFORCEMENT BY [00:17:57] DISBANDING UNITS AND ALSO FIRING [00:18:01] AGENTS IN RETRIBUTION FOR THEIR INVESTIGATING TRUMP. [00:18:05] SO YOU CAN EXPECT THAT TO BE A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION TODAY. [00:18:07] THE DEMOCRATS WILL DEFINITELY BE [00:18:11] VERY FOCUSED ON ANY ISSUES LIKE [00:18:15] THAT. HOST: CHRIS MARQUETTE CONGRESSIONAL REPORTER FROM [00:18:19] POLITICO, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US THIS MORNING. GUEST: THANK YOU. [00:18:22] HOST: AND AGAIN TODAY, THE FBI [00:18:27] DIRECTOR IS ON CAPITOL HILL WE TALKED ABOUT IT WITH CHRIS [00:18:30] THERE, TO TALK ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT OPERATIONS AND PRIORITIES. [00:18:32] YOU CAN WATCH THAT HEARING LIVE [00:18:34] AT 9:00 A.M. EASTERN ON CSPAN 3 RIGHT AFTER THIS PROGRAM. [00:18:38] SO BACK TO THE QUESTION OF THE MORNING, WHICH IS WHAT IS YOUR [00:18:42] TOP NEWS STORY? ALREADY TODAY WE TALKED ABOUT [00:18:44] A.I. AND NOW KASH PATEL. [00:18:46] KIM, FROM CHAMPAGNE, ILLINOIS, A [00:18:50] DEMOCRAT. GOOD MORNING, KIM. [00:18:53] CALLER: HI, GOOD MORNING, JASMINE. YOU HAD A LOT OF INTERESTING [00:18:57] COMMENTS. I'M A HUGE SPORTS FAN BUT IN THE [00:19:00] MIDDLE OF THIS, I HEAR THE [00:19:03] WHISTLEBLOWERS TALKING ABOUT THE A.I., THAT'S THE NEXT BIG THING [00:19:07] IT CAN PERHAPS DESTROY THE HUMAN RACE. [00:19:10] WE HAVE GAS PRICES AT ALL-TIME [00:19:12] HIGHS, DIESEL PRICES HAVE NEVER BEEN THIS HIGH. [00:19:15] PAYING MORE FOR EVERYTHING. PAYING MORE FOR EVERYTHING. [00:19:20] RENT, HEALTH CARE, AND WATCHING [00:19:22] ESPN AND WHAT DO I SEE, TED CRUZ [00:19:27] ON TV ON COLLEGE GAME DAY, LOBBYING FOR THE SAVE COLLEGE [00:19:31] SPORTS ACT. [00:19:32] GIVE ME A BREAK. [00:19:36] WE'RE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT SAVING THE NCAA AND BIG [00:19:38] BOOSTERS? [00:19:42] BECAUSE THEY ARE UPSET THAT [00:19:43] STUDENTS ARE -- HAVE AGENTS -- [00:19:50] SAVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ACT GET A GRIP ON. [00:19:54] I'M SO SICK OF THEIR -- IF WE [00:19:56] DON'T GET IT NOW, IF WE DON'T UNDERSTAND, IT LOOKS LIKE OUR [00:20:00] POLITICIANS ARE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT BIG BUSINESSES AND SYSTEMS [00:20:03] THAN THEY ARE ABOUT HELPING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, WAKE UP, [00:20:07] EVERYBODY. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT US. [00:20:09] THEY'RE OKAY WITH US -- BRINGING [00:20:12] US TO HEEL PAYING ALL THESE HIGH PRICES FOR EVERYTHING. [00:20:15] THIS IS RIDICULOUS, AND THIS HAS GOT TO STOP. [00:20:17] THEY'RE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT [00:20:19] SAVING SYSTEMS AND INSTITUTIONS [00:20:22] LIKE THE NCAA AND BIG COLLEGE DONORS THAN HELPING THE [00:20:25] AMERICANS WITH THE AFFORDABILITY ISSUE. [00:20:28] THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. [00:20:32] HOST: THAT'S KIM FROM [00:20:35] CHAMPAGNE, ILLINOIS, A DEMOCRAT. [00:20:37] ANOTHER STORY WE'RE WATCHING [00:20:39] THIS WEEK, AS CONGRESS IS BACK, [00:20:42] IS FROM AXIOS, THE HEADLINE IS [00:20:46] HOUSE TEES UP PREELECTION VOTE [00:20:49] ON CURBING DATA CENTER BILLS. [00:20:51] BEAR WITH ME, IT SAYS THE HOUSE [00:20:55] REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP WILL BRING UP THE PROTECTION ACT, [00:20:58] BIPARTISAN LEGISLATION AIMED AT [00:21:02] PREVENTING DATA CENTERS FROM DRIVING UP AMERICANS' [00:21:06] ELECTRICITY BILLS. SAYING REPUBLICANS WANT TO SHOI [00:21:10] VOTERS THEY'RE -- EXCUSE ME, REPUBLICANS WANT TO SHOW VOTERS [00:21:14] THAT TAKING RISING ELECTRIC BILLS AND THE MASSIVE POWER [00:21:18] DEMANDS OF POWER CENTERS THEY'RE TAKING THEM SERIOUSLY. [00:21:22] THEY'VE BEEN HAMMERED OVER HIGH ENERGY PRICES. [00:21:26] A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT BILL. IT WOULD REQUIRE STATE UTILITY [00:21:29] REGULATORS TO ENSURE RULES THAT [00:21:32] DATA CENTERS RECOVER THE FULL [00:21:34] COST OF ENERGY UPGRADES AND THE [00:21:37] SHIFT WOULD SHIELD LOCAL PAYERS' [00:21:41] BILLS FROM HIKES ACCORDING TO [00:21:43] THE BILL'S SPONSOR. THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN EXPECT [00:21:47] THIS WEEK. JENNIFER FROM LAS VEGAS, GOOD [00:21:50] MORNING, WHAT'S YOUR TOP NEWS STORY OF THE DAY? CALLER: GOOD MORNING TO YOU. [00:21:54] I WANTED TO REFERENCE TWO CALLERS CALLED YESTERDAY [00:21:57] REGARDING THIS -- YOU KNOW, THE [00:21:59] A.I. AND HOW IT'S HAPPENING AND COMING TRUE. [00:22:02] THEY MENTIONED A MOVIE BACK IN [00:22:06] 1969, 1970 CALLED "COLLASUS, THE [00:22:15] FORBIN PROJECT". [00:22:17] WHAT'S SCARY ABOUT IT BESIDES THAT MOVIE BEING REALISTIC OF [00:22:21] WHAT'S GOING ON TODAY WITH THE [00:22:23] DATA CENTERS AND A.I. IS THAT [00:22:27] ELON MUSK NAMED HIS A.I. SUPER [00:22:31] COMPUTER COLLASUS AND IN MAY HIM [00:22:37] AND HIS RIVAL ANTHROPIC PARTNERS [00:22:40] ON THIS KOE -- COLLASUS PROJECT. [00:22:50] IT'S SCARY. THESE PEOPLE ARE PLAYING A JOKE ON YOU US OR GOVERNMENT OR [00:22:54] CONGRESS, BUT THESE GUYS, WE ARE THE JOKE. [00:22:57] THE JOKE IS ON US REALLY. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE PLAYING [00:23:01] GAMES OR WHAT. HOST: THAT'S JENNIFER FROM LAS [00:23:04] VEGAS, AN INDEPENDENT. NOW, ON SOCIAL MEDIA WE HAVE [00:23:07] SOME COMMENTS THIS MORNING ABOUT TOP NEWS STORIES. [00:23:11] RONNY SAYS JUST MORE PROOF THAT [00:23:14] THE TRUMP FAMILY IS IN BED WITH RUSSIA. [00:23:17] ONE OF PUTIN'S CLOSEST OLIGARCH [00:23:20] FRIENDS PAYS FOR DON JUNIOR'S [00:23:22] WEDDING AND NOBODY CARES THAT [00:23:24] THEY VIOLATE THE MAGNITSKY ACT. [00:23:32] THAT'S ONE COMMENT FROM SOCIAL MEDIA. BOB FROM SOUTH CAROLINA, A [00:23:36] DEMOCRAT. HOW ARE YOU? [00:23:40] CALLER: GOOD HOW ARE YOU. [00:23:43] MINE IS GLOBAL WARMING. [00:23:46] I WAS IN EIGHTH GRADE AND I HAD A SCIENCE TEACHER THAT TAUGHT US [00:23:50] WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN YEARS FROM NOW. HE EXPLAINED IT LIKE THIS, OUR [00:23:54] WORLD IS ON A MAGNETIC HOLD. AND WHEN THAT MAGNETIC HOLD [00:23:57] CHANGES, IT'S GOING TO PULL US SOMEWHERE. [00:24:00] SO BASICALLY WHAT HE'S SAYING -- [00:24:02] SAID BACK THEN AND THAT WAS LIKE [00:24:05] IN THE '70S. WHEN THE CARS WERE BEING BUILT [00:24:09] AND THE TRUCKS BEING BUILT IN [00:24:10] THE '20S, '30S, '40S, YOU [00:24:15] WEREN'T DOING THAT MUCH WITH THE GAS. [00:24:18] NOW MY HOUSE TO A MAIN ROAD THAT HAS THREE LIGHTS. [00:24:22] I STILL GET THERE IN THREE [00:24:24] MINUTES NOW SIX OR SEVEN MINUTES [00:24:27] WITH ALL THE CARS OR TRAFFIC. [00:24:28] HE ALSO SAID WHEN YOU'RE -- WHEN [00:24:31] YOU'RE BUILDING NOW, BACK [00:24:33] THEN -- WHEN YOU'RE CUTTING DOWN [00:24:37] THE TREES -- THE MORE WE GONNA [00:24:40] GROW, GROW -- HE DID SAY WE'LL BE COMING FORWARD BECAUSE THE [00:24:43] TREES AND THE PLANTS IS WHAT MAKES US BREATHE, OKAY. [00:24:47] HELPS US BREATHE. [00:24:49] NOW, GOING BACK TO THE GLOBAL [00:24:52] WARMING ALSO, IT'S LIKE THIS. EVERYTHING THAT'S BUILT ON THIS [00:24:56] WORLD, OUR WORLD, COMES FROM THIS WORLD. [00:24:59] NO MATTER WHAT A TRUCK IS, CAR [00:25:02] IS, SKY SCRAPERS, WE'RE NOT [00:25:04] GOING TO JAPAN -- I MEAN [00:25:06] JUPITER, WE'RE NOT GOING TO [00:25:09] MARS, WE'RE NOT TAKING ANYTHING [00:25:12] FROM OUR PLANET -- HOST: THAT'S BOB FROM SOUTH CAROLINA, DEMOCRAT. [00:25:16] SOMETHING RELATED TODAY WHAT HE [00:25:19] SAID, IS FROM THE "WASHINGTON [00:25:22] POST" THAT TRUMP'S EPA IS ENDING [00:25:25] ONE OF THE NATION'S BIGGEST CLIMATE PROTECTIONS IN ONE OF [00:25:29] THE LARGEST DEREGULATORY [00:25:32] ANNOUNCEMENTS IN U.S. HISTORY. [00:25:34] KENNY FROM KENTUCKY, A [00:25:37] REPUBLICAN. [00:25:39] I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO BE QUICK [00:25:41] BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GO TO BREAK. [00:25:44] CALLER: DO THE DEMOCRATS HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL? DO THEY THINK THEY'RE GOING TO [00:25:48] WIN EVERY RACE. THEY NEED TO WAKE UP. Y'ALL HAVE A GREAT DAY. [00:25:52] HOST: THAT'S KENNY FROM KENTUCKY, A REPUBLICAN. [00:25:55] LATER ON THIS MORNING ON "WASHINGTON JOURNAL", A [00:25:58] CONVERSATION WITH AMY KREMER, [00:26:02] CURRENT RNC COMMITTEE WOMAN [00:26:06] ABOUT HER NEW PUSH TO REGULATE A.I.. BUT FIRST AL GREEN WILL BE HERE [00:26:10] TO TALK ABOUT HIS PRIORITIES AND THE FINAL DAYS BEFORE THE HOUSE [00:26:13] BREAKS FOR NOVEMBER MIDTERMS. 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[00:27:25] >> YOU MAY NOT AGREE ON EVERYTHING BUT YOU CAN FIND [00:27:28] AREAS YOU DO AGREE. >> HE'S A LIKABLE GUY. [00:27:31] >> CHRIS COONS AND I ARE [00:27:35] ACTUALLY FRIENDS. >> THE HORRIBLE SCOOTER IS WE [00:27:38] RESPECT EACH OTHER. >> WE DON'T HATE EACH OTHER. [00:27:41] >> YOU LIKE EACH OTHER, THESE [00:27:44] ARE THE SECRETS WE LIKE TO EXPOSE. [00:27:47] >> YOU GUYS DID AGREE TO THE CIVILITY. [00:27:50] >> HE OWES MY SON FROM A BET -- [00:27:56] >> THAT'S FIGHTING WORDS. [00:27:58] >> I'M THRILLED TO BE ON A SHOW WITH HIM. [00:28:02] >> THERE ARE NOT SHOWS LIKE THIS [00:28:05] INCENTIVIZING THAT RELATIONSHIP. [00:28:06] >> CEASE-FIRE FRIDAY NIGHTS ON [00:28:10] CSPAN. >> "WASHINGTON JOURNAL" CONTINUES. HOST: WITH US NOW TO TALK ABOUT [00:28:14] ALL THINGS CONGRESS IS DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN AL GREEN [00:28:18] FROM TEXAS. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US THIS MORNING. >> MY HONOR TO BE WITH YOU. [00:28:22] LOOKING FORWARD TO THE PROGRAM [00:28:24] AND I'M GRATEFUL TO CSPAN FOR ALLOWING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO [00:28:28] SAY THINGS THAT I CAN SAY NO PLACE ELSE. [00:28:31] HOST: WE LOVE TO HEAR THAT. LET'S START WITH THE BIGGEST NEWS. [00:28:34] YESTERDAY YOU ANNOUNCED YOU [00:28:37] INTEND TO FORCE A VOTE ON [00:28:40] IMPEACHING PRESIDENT TRUMP, CITING THE KILLING BY [00:28:43] IMMIGRATION OFFICERS OF TWO U.S. CITIZENS EARLIER THIS YEAR. [00:28:47] WHERE DOES THAT STAND? [00:28:49] GUEST: ACTUALLY FOUR CITIZENS, [00:28:55] ONE WAS IN HOUSTON, THAT STANDS [00:29:00] AT A POINT WHERE I SHOULD MAKE [00:29:02] AN ANNOUNCEMENT RIGHT NOW. [00:29:04] AT ABOUT 1:00 TODAY, I'LL BE IN [00:29:07] THE CONGRESS, I'LL BE ON THE FLOOR. [00:29:09] AND THE SPEAKER HAS INDICATED THAT SOMETIME AROUND 1:15 WE [00:29:13] WILL CALL FOR THE VOTE. THIS WOULD GIVE CONGRESS AN [00:29:16] OPPORTUNITY TO GO ON RECORD AND DECIDE WHETHER YOU'RE GOING TO [00:29:20] DECIDE WITH THE VICTIMS OF THESE [00:29:23] I.C.E. KILLINGS OR ARE YOU GOING [00:29:26] TO SIDE WITH THE PRESIDENT AND [00:29:30] THE RUTHLESS RECKLESS BEHAVIOR [00:29:33] AND THE I.C.E. OFFICERS. WE HAVE SEEN FOUR PEOPLE KILLED. [00:29:37] I MENTIONED TWO, THE OTHER TWO [00:29:39] ARE ALEX PETTY AND RENEE GOOD. [00:29:42] BOTH OF THEM KILLED BY I.C.E. OFFICERS. [00:29:45] BOTH OF THESE WERE KILLINGS THAT WERE NOT JUSTIFIED. [00:29:49] UNJUSTIFIED KILLINGS. AND THE PRESIDENT HAS SOUGHT TO [00:29:52] COVER THESE UP BY SUPPORTING THE KILLINGS BEFORE THERE WAS AN [00:29:56] INVESTIGATION PROCLAIMING THE PEOPLE TO BE TERRORISTS, TO BE [00:29:59] PERSONS WHO WERE OUT OF CONTROL, NOT BEHAVING. [00:30:03] SOMEHOW ASSAULTING OFFICERS, [00:30:04] TRYING TO RAM THEIR CARS INTO [00:30:07] OFFICERS OR OFFICERS' VEHICLES. [00:30:09] THE PRESIDENT IS ENGAGED IN A [00:30:12] COVERUP, THE I.C.E. OFFICERS ARE THE PERSONS WHO ARE TAKING THE [00:30:16] LAW INTO THEIR OWN HANDS, THEY'RE KILLING PEOPLE, AND [00:30:19] THEY'RE DOING IT AS JUDGE, JURY, [00:30:22] EXECUTIONER, PROSECUTOR. [00:30:24] WE CAN'T ALLOW THIS. [00:30:27] HOST: CONGRESSMAN LET ME JUMP IN HERE, THAT VOTE WILL HAPPEN [00:30:31] ABOUT 1:00, 1:15, THE FOLKS WATCHING THE HOUSE FLOOR THERE. [00:30:35] YOU SAID IT'S GOING TO PUT PEOPLE ON RECORD. [00:30:38] BUT IT'S NOT JUST REPUBLICANS [00:30:40] IT'S DEMOCRATS YOU'LL PUT ON RECORDS. [00:30:43] AXIOS REPORTS YOU ARE FACING [00:30:46] SWIFT AND INTENSE ANGER FROM YOUR DEMOCRATIC COLLEAGUES OVER [00:30:49] THIS EFFORT TO BRING UP THE [00:30:53] IMPEACHMENT VOTE, SOMETHING LEADERSHIP SAID THEY DON'T WANT [00:30:55] TO DO AT THE MOMENT. [00:30:57] WHAT'S YOUR RESPONSE TO YOUR OWN PARTY? [00:31:00] GUEST: I'LL GIVE YOU THAT RESPONSE BUT I WANT TO FINISH THIS COMMENT. [00:31:04] THIS BEHAVIOR BY I.C.E. IS SOMETHING WE CANNOT TOLERATE. [00:31:08] WE CANNOT ALLOW IT TO BE NORMALIZED. THE KILLING OF AMERICAN [00:31:12] CITIZENS. [00:31:13] I WANTED TO GIVE YOU ALEX PETTY AS AN EXAMPLE. [00:31:17] HE WAS ON THE GROUND, UNARMED, [00:31:21] THERE WERE OFFICERS AROUND HIM. HE WAS SHOT MORE THAN NINE TIMES [00:31:24] ON THE GROUND UNARMED. [00:31:27] HE WAS SHOT ON JANUARY 24, 2026, [00:31:30] RENEE GOOD JANUARY 7, 2026, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH [00:31:33] THOSE CASES. ALL OF THIS TIME NO [00:31:37] TRANSPARENCY. THE PRESIDENT HAS A DUTY TO MAKE [00:31:40] SURE THAT THE LAWS ARE FOLLOWED APPROPRIATELY. [00:31:43] HE TOOK AN OATH TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION. [00:31:46] HE IS NOT DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION, HE'S RIPPING IT UP. [00:31:50] NOW TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT MY COLLEAGUES. I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY CHOOSE TO MAKE THEMSELVES AN ISSUE. [00:31:54] THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THESE COMMENTS THAT ARE IN [00:31:58] AXIOS. THEY'RE MAKING THEMSELVES AN ISSUE BECAUSE THEY'RE LITERALLY [00:32:02] SAYING THIS IS AN INCONVENIENCE, [00:32:04] WHY INCONVENIENCE US AT THIS TIME WHEN WE COULD BE DOING [00:32:08] SOMETHING ELSE WHEN WE KNOW THAT CONGRESS DOES MULTIPLE THINGS ALL THE TIME. [00:32:12] WE'RE GOING TO IK TA UP A WAR [00:32:14] POWERS RESOLUTION, DEALING WITH OTHER ISSUES OF IMPORTANCE. [00:32:17] THIS IS ACCOUNTABILITY, AFFORDABILITY IS IMPORTANT -- [00:32:21] HOST: THE LARGER DEMOCRATS' [00:32:23] POINT IS IT MUDDLES THE MIDTERM [00:32:27] MESSAGE. GUEST: IF YOU WANT IT TO. DOES LIFE AND DEATH COUNT? [00:32:31] HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE TO DIE BEFORE WE WILL CONCLUDE THAT [00:32:34] THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR IS UNACCEPTABLE AND WE'RE GOING TO CHALLENGE IT. [00:32:39] MY COLLEAGUES HAVE DECIDED TO MAKE THEMSELVES AN ISSUE BECAUSE [00:32:43] THEY'RE SAYING THIS IS SO [00:32:46] INCONVENIENT FOR US WHY SHOULD WE HAVE TO TAKE THIS VOTE? [00:32:49] IT'S BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT LIFE AND DEATH. BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE DIED. [00:32:53] MORE PEOPLE MAY DIE. WHEN THEY DO, THE BLOOD WILL BE [00:32:56] ON THEIR HANDS WHEN THEY VOTE AGAINST THIS RESOLUTION TODAY. [00:33:00] DEMOCRATS HAVE STOOD FOR LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. BUT THERE ARE SOME WANTING TO [00:33:04] MAKE THEMSELVES AN ISSUE BY SIDING WITH THE PRESIDENT AND [00:33:07] THE PEOPLE KILLING WITH [00:33:12] IMPUNITY. HOST: YOU SAID, THE BLOOD WILL [00:33:14] BE ON YOUR COLLEAGUE'S HANDS. [00:33:17] HOST: GUEST: AND REPUBLICANS TOO. [00:33:20] HOST: VOTING ON IRAN, YOU SAW [00:33:23] MOST OF YOUR FELLOW DEMOCRATS INCLUDING ALL DEMOCRATIC LEADERS [00:33:27] SIDING WITH REPUBLICANS IN OPPOSITION. [00:33:30] WHY ARE THEY WRONG ON THIS? [00:33:33] GUEST: IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME THAT PEOPLE HAVE DECIDED THAT [00:33:37] THEY WANT OUT OF THE CONSTITUTION AND THE OATH OF OFFICE. [00:33:41] WE SAID WE WOULD DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION, THAT'S WHAT I DO. [00:33:43] BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY IS THIS. [00:33:45] IF WE CAN ONLY VOTE WHEN WE WIN, [00:33:48] SOME OF US WOULDN'T BE IN [00:33:50] CONGRESS IF WE TOOK UP THAT [00:33:53] ATTITUDE OR HAD ROSA PARKS TAKEN THAT ATTITUDE. [00:33:56] ROSA PARKS TOOK A SEAT IN A RACIST PUBLIC TOWN BY HERSELF [00:34:00] KNOWING SHE WOULD LIKELY GO TO JAIL. [00:34:03] SHE DIDN'T THINK SHE WAS GOING TO END SEGREGATION THAT NIGHT, [00:34:07] BUT SHE FOUGHT. [00:34:08] JOHN LEWIS WENT TO THE EDMUND [00:34:12] PETTUS BRIDGE BRIDGE, WE WERE [00:34:15] FRIENDS HE TOLD ME HE THOUGHT HE [00:34:16] WAS GOING TO DIE THAT DAY. [00:34:19] BECAUSE HE WAS THERE ON BLOODY [00:34:22] SUNDAY, BECAUSE A PRESIDENT PASSED THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT, [00:34:26] MANY OF US SAYING THIS ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR, THERE WERE [00:34:30] PEOPLE IN CONGRESS WHO WOULDN'T [00:34:32] BE HERE IF WE WAITED TILL WE COULD WIN. [00:34:37] WE CAN'T ALWAYS WIN BUT SOME OF [00:34:39] US HAVE TO FIGHT. THERE IS ONE CONGRESS PERSON [00:34:43] THAT I'M AWARE OF WHO SAID IF WE [00:34:45] CAN GET THE VOTES I'LL VOTE FOR IT. HOST: WHO IS THAT? [00:34:48] GUEST: I DON'T HAVE TO CALL HIS NAME. [00:34:50] IF HE DECIDES TO REVEAL HIMSELF I WILL. IT'S BEEN PUBLISHED. [00:34:54] YOU CAN DO THE RESEARCH. [00:34:57] BUT HE IS SAYING THAT HE'S THE [00:35:00] BENEFICIARY, THIS IS A PERSON OF COLOR, BENEFICIARY OF JOHN LEWIS [00:35:03] AND THE SUFFERING AT THE EDMUND [00:35:07] PETTUS BRIDGE. [00:35:10] THIS IS PERFORMATIVE, IT'S STRATEGIC TO DO NOTHING, I'M NOT [00:35:14] A STRATEGIC GUY WHO DOES NOTHING WHEN WE HAVE IMPEACHMENT AVAILABLE TOWS. [00:35:18] I ASSURE YOU I WILL BE THERE FOR THIS VOTE. [00:35:21] THIS VOTE WILL BE TAKEN AND I [00:35:23] WARN YOU MY DEAR BROTHERS AND [00:35:27] SISTERS, REPUBLICANS AND [00:35:29] DEMOCRATS, YOU VOTE WITH THIS, [00:35:32] VOTE WITH COVERING UP THE DEATH [00:35:35] OF FOUR PEOPLE, AND AGAINST THE VICTIMS AND THE FAMILIES, [00:35:39] HISTORY IS NOT GOING TO BE KIND TO YOU AND THE PEOPLE ARE NOT [00:35:42] GOING TO BE KIND TO YOU. THIS IS A SIMILAR VOTE IN YOUR [00:35:46] CAREER. LET YOUR RECORD REFLECT WHEN YOU [00:35:49] HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE TO [00:35:52] IMPEACH THIS RECKLESS, RUTHLESS [00:35:54] PRESIDENT THAT'S WHAT YOU DID. HOST: SAY YOUR VOTE WAS [00:35:57] SUCCESSFUL AND THE PRESIDENT WAS IMPEACHED IN THE HOUSE. THAT REQUIRES A TWO THIRDS [00:36:01] MAJORITY IN THE SENATE TO CONVICT. DO YOU BELIEVE THAT WILL HAPPEN? [00:36:04] REPUBLICAN ARE IN CONTROL OF THE SENATE RIGHT NOW. [00:36:07] GUEST: IF YOU'RE ABOUT ONLY [00:36:09] WINNING VOTES THEN YOU PROBABLY [00:36:11] SHOULDN'T BE IN CONGRESS -- [00:36:15] HOST: WINNING VOTES LEADS TO IMPEACHMENT. [00:36:18] GUEST: BUT ALSO IMPEACHMENT DETERS ACTION. WHEN THE PRESIDENT SEES WE'RE [00:36:22] WILLING TO VOTE AND TAKE ACTION AGAINST IT, IT CAN DETER HIM AND [00:36:26] THE OFFICERS HE HOPES TO PARDON [00:36:29] IF THEY'RE EVER CONVICTED IN A FEDERAL COURT. [00:36:33] HE HAS MADE IT CLEAR THAT IF [00:36:35] THEY ARE CONVICTED IN A FEDERAL COURT, HE WILL GIVE THEM A [00:36:39] PARDON JUST AS HE DID THOSE PERSONS WHO COMMITTED THE [00:36:43] INSURRECTION AGAINST THE CAPITOL. HE GAVE THEM PARDONS HE'S [00:36:47] SENDING THAT MESSAGE TO THEM. YES, IT COULD GO TO SENATE AND [00:36:51] THE SENATE COULD LIKELY NOT IMPEACH OR THEY COULD. [00:36:54] WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL THEY VOTE. [00:36:56] WHAT YOU'RE SAYING -- I DON'T [00:36:58] THINK YOU'RE SAYING TO BE PROVOCATIVE. I THINK YOU'RE BEING A GOOD [00:37:02] REPORTER, I APPRECIATE IT. I WANT THE CHALLENGING QUESTION. [00:37:05] WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IF YOU CAN'T WIN, DON'T FIGHT. [00:37:08] THAT'S NOT WHAT IT'S ABOUT. WE'LL HAVE VOTES IN CONGRESS [00:37:11] THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOSE AND WE DO THIS REGULARLY. [00:37:14] IT TOOK US ALMOST 100 YEARS TO [00:37:17] GET OBAMA CARE PASSED BUT WE DIDN'T STOP. WE'RE FIGHTING RIGHT NOW SO [00:37:21] LABOR HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO NEGOTIATE WITHOUT INTERFERENCE FROM MANAGEMENT. [00:37:25] WE'RE NOT GOING TO STOP. WE TAKE VOTES ALL THE TIME. [00:37:28] BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THIS VOTE, MANY PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO [00:37:31] VOTE AGAINST THE PRESIDENT [00:37:33] BECAUSE THEY GET THIS CRYPTO [00:37:37] CONTRIBUTIONS. THE CRYPTO INDUSTRY IS OWNING AND OPERATING A GOOD MEMBER -- A [00:37:41] GOOD NUMBER OF MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RIGHT NOW. [00:37:44] THEY ARE IN THE POCKETS OF THE CRYPTO INDUSTRY AND THEY CAN'T [00:37:48] TAKE ON DONALD TRUMP BECAUSE THE [00:37:50] CRYPTO INDUSTRY IS GOING TO [00:37:55] PROTECT THEM BECAUSE HE IS MAKING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR THEM. [00:37:59] JUST FOLLOW THE MONEY AND YOU'LL [00:38:01] UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE VOTE THE WAY THEY DO. [00:38:04] HOST: FOR FOLKS VIEWING WE'LL [00:38:08] BE TAKING CALLS IN A MOMENT. [00:38:24] GUEST: THE PEOPLE IN THOSE ARTICLES THEY DON'T HAVE THE [00:38:28] CUTS, THE INTESTINAL FORTITUDES [00:38:31] TO GIVE THEIR NAMES WHO ARE [00:38:35] THOSE POLITICIANS? [00:38:38] WHO WILL STAND BEHIND -- STAND [00:38:40] BEHIND THE CURTAIN AND SAY THESE THINGS. [00:38:42] IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE COURAGE TO ALLOW YOUR NAME TO BE ASSOCIATED [00:38:46] WITH YOUR WORDS YOU OUGHT NOT BE IN CONGRESS. [00:38:49] THIS IS NOT A POSITION FOR THE [00:38:52] TIMID FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO HIDE AND SAY THINGS. [00:38:56] IF YOU BELIEVE IN WHAT YOU'RE [00:38:57] SAYING, SPEAK LOUDLY, OPENLY, AND PUBLICALLY. [00:39:00] HOST: YOU'RE REFERENCING THE [00:39:02] PEOPLE CRITICIZING YOUR IMPEACHMENT VOTE. [00:39:06] GUEST: THEY'RE CRITICIZING IMPEACHMENT. [00:39:09] THEY DON'T WANT TO VOTE ON IMPEACHMENT, THEY DON'T WANT TO [00:39:12] VOTE FOR A LOT OF REASONS, AMONG [00:39:15] THEM PROTECTING DONALD TRUMP. HOST: LET ME ASK YOU BECAUSE [00:39:18] THERE'S A GREAT REPORT OUT FROM [00:39:22] CNN, THE DEMOCRATS EYE A NEW TOOL TO HOLD TRUMP ACCOUNTABLE [00:39:26] IF THEY WIN THE HOUSE AND LAY OUT A MULTITUDE OF THINGS THAT [00:39:29] HOUSE DEMOCRATS ARE DOING TO [00:39:31] PREPARE IF THEY WERE TO WIN THE NERM ELECTIONS AND WIN BACK THE [00:39:36] HOUSE COME NOVEMBER. [00:39:38] I WONDER, WHAT ADVANTAGES DOES [00:39:43] IMPEACHMENT HAVE OVER AN INVESTIGATORY APPROACH AND WHY [00:39:46] DO YOU CHOOSE IMPEACHMENT? GUEST: CHOOSE IT BECAUSE I [00:39:50] RAISED MY RIGHT HAND WHEN I [00:39:52] ARRIVED IN CONGRESS AND I SWORE [00:39:54] TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION, SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE [00:39:58] CONSTITUTION. THE CONSTITUTION AFFORDS [00:40:00] IMPEACHMENT AS A REMEDY FOR A [00:40:03] PRESIDENT COMMITTING IMPEACHABLE [00:40:07] DEFENSES. NONE OF THE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS, BUT ESPECIALLY NONE [00:40:10] OF THE DEMOCRATS ARE DENYING [00:40:13] HE'S COMMITTING IMPEACHMENT OFFENSES. [00:40:17] THEY'RE SAYING I DON'T WANT TO VOTE ON IT. BECAUSE IF I VOTE I'LL BE ON [00:40:20] RECORD AND I'LL BE ON RECORD AGAINST TRUMP. [00:40:23] IF I'M ON RECORD AGAINST TRUMP [00:40:25] AND I'M TAKING CRYPTO MONEY I [00:40:27] HAVE A PROBLEM BECAUSE THE [00:40:30] CRYPTO INDUSTRY IS BACKING TRUMP 1,000%. [00:40:33] IF YOU LOOK AT THE RECORD, SEE WHO'S GETTING THE CRYPTO MONEY [00:40:37] IN CONGRESS. HOST: RICHARD FROM SAVANNAH [00:40:40] GEORGIA, A REPUBLICAN. [00:40:44] GOOD MORNING, RICHARD. GUEST: GOOD MORNING. YOU SAY YOU CARE ABOUT THE [00:40:48] PEOPLE OF AMERICA AND DEFENDING THEM WITH THE CONSTITUTION, BUT [00:40:51] FOR FOUR YEARS WE WATCHED THE [00:40:53] DEMOCRATS WITH OPEN BORDERS LET [00:40:56] ABOUT 30 MILLION ILLEGALS COME [00:40:58] IN AND WE HAD JOCELYN, A [00:41:02] 12-YEAR-OLD GIRL IN YOUR [00:41:04] DISTRICT IN HOUSTON GET RAPED AND MURDERED AND YOU DIDN'T CARE [00:41:07] ABOUT HER, TALK ABOUT HER, GO TO [00:41:10] HER FUNERAL OR ANYTHING. [00:41:17] WHY SHOULDN'T THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, JOE BIDEN, YOU, [00:41:20] BE ARRESTED FOR ACCESSORIES TO [00:41:26] RAPE AND MURDER AS FAR AS THE INNOCENT WOMEN RAPED AND [00:41:29] MURDERED BY ILLEGALS AND ALSO THE TRUCKS COMING DOWN THE ROAD [00:41:33] BY ILLEGALS THAT YOU LET IN KILL [00:41:37] INNOCENT PEOPLE? [00:41:38] ONE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY [00:41:42] THANK GOD FOR ONE BLACK MAN [00:41:45] JUROR WITH THE CLANCY TRIAL. [00:41:47] THANK YOU, SIR, FOR STANDING UP [00:41:50] TO THOSE THREE CHILDREN. GUEST: ANYONE WHO COMMITS A [00:41:53] CRIME OUGHT TO BE PROSECUTED. IF THEY'RE CONVICTED, THEY OUGHT [00:41:56] TO GO TO JAIL. IN THE CASE OF THE PRESIDENT, WE [00:41:59] CAN'T PROSECUTE HIM RIGHT NOW. [00:42:02] BUT WE CAN IMPEACH HIM. WE CAN IMPEACH HIM AND LATER ON [00:42:05] HE CAN BE PROSECUTED BUT WE CAN [00:42:09] IMPEACH HIM. THE SUPREME COURT HAS GIVEN THE [00:42:12] PRESIDENT ALMOST ABSOLUTE IMMUNITY. [00:42:15] THEY HAVEN'T, BUT HE HAS ASSUMED [00:42:17] THE AUTHORITARIAN POSITION AND [00:42:20] THAT IS HE HAS ABSOLUTE [00:42:24] IMMUNITY. ANYONE WHO COMMITS A CRIME OUGHT TO BE CONVICTED, THE PRESIDENT [00:42:28] CAN BE IMPEACHED. I TELL YOU, ANYBODY WHO COMMITS [00:42:32] A CRIME, WHETHER YOU'RE ILLEGAL OR LEGAL, YOU OUGHT TO BE [00:42:35] PROSECUTED AND YOU OUGHT TO BE CONVICTED. [00:42:37] I WOULD SAY IF YOU'RE RAPING PEOPLE AND IT'S PROVEN YOU DID [00:42:41] IT, YOU OUGHT TO BE PUNISHED TO THE EXTENT THE LAW ALLOWS. [00:42:45] I'M NOT A PERSON WHO SUPPORTS ANY OF THAT. [00:42:48] I REGRET THAT YOU WOULD ASSUME [00:42:50] THAT BECAUSE I WANT TO HAVE THE [00:42:53] PRESIDENT NOT BE ABOVE THE LAW THAT SOMEHOW I WOULD HAVE OTHER [00:42:56] PEOPLE BE ABOVE THE LAW. NO ONE SHOULD BE ABOVE THE LAW [00:43:00] OF THE COUNTRY, THAT INCLUDES THE PRESIDENT AND THAT'S WHY I'M [00:43:03] DOING WHAT I'M DOING. [00:43:04] AGAIN, PEOPLE ARE NOT DENYING [00:43:07] HE'S COMMITTING IMPEACHABLE [00:43:08] OFFENSES THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO [00:43:11] GET INVOLVED IN THE IMPEACHMENT PROCESS FOR VARIOUS REASONS. [00:43:14] HOST: ON THE ISSUE FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, WHO SHOULD BE [00:43:18] RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ACTIONS COMMITTED BY UNDOCUMENTED [00:43:21] MIGRANTS WHO COME TO THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY, IF THEY CAME [00:43:25] IN UNDER THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION? WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? [00:43:30] GUEST: THE PEOPLE WHO COMMIT CRIMES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR CRIMES. [00:43:33] THAT'S ALWAYS BE THE CASE FOR THIS COUNTRY. [00:43:36] I'M TOTALLY FOR THAT. PROSECUTE PEOPLE WHO COMMIT [00:43:40] CRIMES, PUT THEM IN JAIL. BY THE WAY, I'M NOT FOR HAVING A [00:43:44] RAPIST SENT SOME OTHER PLACE. [00:43:47] IF YOU COMMIT RAPE IN THIS COUNTRY, YOU OUGHT TO GO TO JAIL [00:43:50] IN THIS COUNTRY AND YOU OUGHT TO STAY IN HAD JAIL. THAT'S WHAT I'M FOR. [00:43:53] I'M FOR PROSECUTING CRIMINALS. [00:43:57] YES. [00:43:58] HOST: VICKY FROM NEBRASKA, A [00:44:02] DEMOCRAT. GOOD MORNING, VICKY. [00:44:04] CALLER: GOOD MORNING, CAN YOU HEAR ME? [00:44:06] HOST: YES, YOU'RE ON. [00:44:11] CALLER: YOU ARE MY FAVORITE HOSTS. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO, [00:44:15] MR. AL GREEN. YOU AND JASMINE CROCKETT ARE MY [00:44:18] FAVORITE POLITICIANS. YOU SPEAK THE TRUTH, YOU HAVE [00:44:22] EMPATHY, YOU'RE FAIR AND YES, I [00:44:25] THINK THE PRESIDENT SHOULD BE IMPEACHED. [00:44:28] I DON'T SEE HOW HE EVER GOT INTO OFFICE WITH ALL OF HIS [00:44:31] CONVICTIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. BUT YOU HAVE INSPIRED ME, [00:44:36] MR. GREEN, TO COME OUT AND NOT BE AFRAID. [00:44:39] I HAVE A BAG AND A T-SHIRT THAT [00:44:42] SAYS BLACK LIVES MATTER AND IT [00:44:45] ALSO SAYS, BE KIND, OUR [00:44:48] PRESIDENT SHOULD BE IMPEACHED AND YES, I HAVE BEEN IN STORES, [00:44:51] I'VE BEEN FLIPPED OFF, I'VE BEEN [00:44:53] YELLED AT AND HAD MAGA PEOPLE [00:44:55] NOT EVEN WEIGHT ON ME WHEN I WAS [00:44:59] PURCHASING SOMETHING BUT I FEEL SO GOOD WHEN I LEAVE BECAUSE I [00:45:02] KNOW GOD IS WATCHING OVER ME AND [00:45:05] YES, NEBRASKA SUCKS BECAUSE WE HAVE A BUNCH OF REPUBLICANS [00:45:08] TRYING TO GET RID OF OUR [00:45:11] DEMOCRATIC MAYOR BY THEIR LITTLE TRICKS AND WE REALLY HAVE TO [00:45:15] FIGHT HARD HERE BECAUSE IT'S -- WE HAVE A LOT OF CHEATERS. [00:45:18] AND IT'S REALLY SAD RIGHT NOW. [00:45:21] I'M 65 AND I'VE LIVED ALL MY [00:45:23] LIFE AND, WO WORKED HARD, AND [00:45:27] NOW MY RETIREMENT I HAVE TO PUT [00:45:29] UP WITH THIS SCUM BAG. [00:45:32] THANK YOU FOR BEING YOU. [00:45:35] I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, [00:45:36] KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK, SAY HI [00:45:39] TO JASMINE CROCKETT FOR ME, I LOVE HER. [00:45:43] THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK TODAY. [00:45:46] GOD BLESS YOU ON THE VOTE TODAY [00:45:49] FOR IMPEACHMENT. [00:45:51] I'M SAYING MY PRAYER. I'M BIG INTO PRAYER. [00:45:54] AND I'M HOPING YOU CAN PULL IT OFF. [00:45:59] GUEST: THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU HAVE THE COURAGE TO SPEAK UP. [00:46:02] THE DEMOCRATS WHO CHOOSE TO VOTE WITH THE REPUBLICANS TO PREVENT [00:46:06] THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT FROM [00:46:08] BEING IMPEACHED FOR CRIMES THAT [00:46:11] ARE IMPEACHABLE, THEY'RE GOING TO PAY A PRICE FOR THAT. [00:46:14] HISTORY IS NOT GOING TO BE KIND AND PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO [00:46:18] REWARD YOU FOR TAKING THAT POSITION. AND THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO [00:46:21] ARE GOING TO DO THIS. [00:46:23] THEY KNOW THAT THE PRESIDENT IS [00:46:26] COMMITTING IMPEACHABLE OFFENSES ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS VOTE TO [00:46:30] IMPEACH THIS IS NOT ASKING YOU [00:46:33] SIT IN A BUS LIKE ROSA PARKS [00:46:35] DID, OR CROSS THE EDMUND PETTUS [00:46:41] BRIDGE. THIS ONLY REQUIRES YOU TO HAVE THE COURAGE TO PUT YOUR CARD IN [00:46:44] THE TERMINAL AND VOTE TO IMPEACH. [00:46:48] DON'T VOTE TO SEND IT TO COMMITTEE. DON'T VOTE TO TABLE. [00:46:51] THOSE TWO THINGS ARE GOING TO PUT YOU WITH THE REPUBLICANS WHO [00:46:54] ARE PROTECTING THE PRESIDENT. YOU WILL BE PROTECTING THE [00:46:57] PRESIDENT AND YOU'RE NOT GOING -- YOU'RE GOING TO REGRET IT. [00:47:01] I WARN YOU, YOU WILL REGRET IT. HOST: I WANT TO CHANGE THE [00:47:05] SUBJECT QUICKLY TO SOMETHING ELSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS [00:47:09] MORNING. A.I. YOU TALKED ABOUT CRYPTO. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THE [00:47:13] RECENT DEVELOPMENTS AND WARNINGS AND IMPACT THAT A.I. COULD HAVE [00:47:16] AND THE CALLS FROM DEMOCRATS AND [00:47:19] REPUBLICANS FOR A SLOW DOWN ON [00:47:22] A.I., ARE THE CONCERNS OVERBLOWN? DO YOU HAVE THEM YOURSELF? [00:47:26] WHAT SHOULD CONGRESS DO? [00:47:29] GUEST: FIRST THING CONGRESS SHOULD DO IS SAY TO THE [00:47:31] PRESIDENT, IT'S NOT A HOAX. THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED [00:47:35] STATES WHO KNOWS VERY LITTLE ABOUT IT, IS TELLING THE PEOPLE WHO KNOW MUCH ABOUT IT. [00:47:39] THE PEOPLE HAVING A HANDS ON EXPERIENCE WITH IT, IT'S A HOAX. [00:47:42] WE SHOULD TELL THE PRESIDENT, SIR YOU ARE WRONG. [00:47:45] I SAY SIR TO BE KIND. I SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THE [00:47:49] PRESIDENT, I'M UNBOSSED AND UNAFRAID. [00:47:52] I SPEAK DIRECTLY TO HIM. [00:47:54] I SENT A LETTER TO HIM YESTERDAY [00:47:57] SAYING THERE WOULD BE A VOTE TO IMPEACH HIM. [00:48:00] HOST: DID YOU RECEIVE A RESPONSE? GUEST: NO HE DOESN'T HAVE THE [00:48:04] COURAGE TO RESPOND. HE ONLY FIGHTS WHEN HE CAN WIN. THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE LIKE THAT. [00:48:08] AND UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE SOME [00:48:09] DEMOCRATS LIKE THAT NOW. [00:48:13] >> BUT I WOULD SAY TO YOU ABOUT [00:48:16] A.I., THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS. PEOPLE HAVING A HANDS ON [00:48:19] EXPERIENCE WITH THIS ARE SAYING YES, IT'S ABOUT CHINA, BUT ALSO [00:48:23] IT'S ABOUT AN ENTITY THAT CAN AT [00:48:26] SOME POINT BECOME SO SMART THAT [00:48:29] IT CAN CONCLUDE THAT IT SHOULD [00:48:31] NOT CEASE TO EXIST AND IT CAN [00:48:34] CONCLUDE THAT IN ITS DEFENSE IT HAS TO DO CERTAIN THINGS. [00:48:38] AND THOSE THINGS CAN BE HARMFUL TO US. [00:48:40] AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE WHO [00:48:44] ARE HAVING THE HANDS ON EXPERIENCE. YES, WE NEED TO REGULATE WHAT'S GOING ON. [00:48:48] WE HAVE TO DO SO. [00:48:50] THIS IS A MANDATE FOR CONGRESS. [00:48:52] THIS IS WHY WE EXIST TO PROTECT [00:48:54] THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY [00:48:57] FROM SOMETHING THAT, ACCORDING [00:48:59] TO PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO [00:49:01] KNOW, CAN WIPE OUT 10 TO 20% OF [00:49:03] HUMAN KIND IN THE NEAR FUTURE, WITHIN YOUR LIFETIME. [00:49:07] SO YES, WE SHOULD BE REGULATING IT. [00:49:09] AND YES, WE OUGHT TO STAY RIGHT [00:49:12] HERE IN WASHINGTON D.C. AND TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS. [00:49:15] WE'RE ABOUT TO LEAVE AND NOT COME BACK UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION. [00:49:19] WE SHOULD STAY HERE AND TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS, INCLUDING [00:49:22] DEALING WITH A.I., THERE'S A WAR POWERS RESOLUTION COMING UP. [00:49:26] NOBODY IS COMPLAINING ABOUT TAKING THIS VOTE ON WAR POWERS, [00:49:29] NOBODY WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT A.I. BUT SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS [00:49:32] SAYING TO THE PRESIDENT, YOU [00:49:34] CAN'T CONDONE THE KILLING OF [00:49:38] INNOCENT PEOPLE, THESE PEOPLE ARE INNOCENT, WE HAVE NORMALIZED [00:49:41] IT SUCH THAT WE WOULD WALK AWAY [00:49:43] FROM THESE DEAD LIVES. [00:49:46] THESE PEOPLE, ONE MAN ON HIS WAY [00:49:48] TO WORK, ANOTHER PERSON DRIVING IN HER CAR. [00:49:52] ALEX PETTI IS THE PERFECT CASE [00:49:56] TO CALL AGAIN, ON THE GROUND, [00:50:00] UNARMED, SHOT NINE TIMES YOU [00:50:03] CAN'T GET AN INDICTMENT? [00:50:05] THAT'S A COVER UP. MR. PRESIDENT YOU SHOULD BE [00:50:09] IMPEACHED. I WILL STAND ALONE AND BRING [00:50:13] THIS ARTICLE OF IMPEACHMENT [00:50:16] TODAY. HOST: JOHN FROM NEW ORLEANS, AN INDEPENDENT. [00:50:20] GOOD MORNING. GUEST: GOOD MORNING. CALLER: I WOULD LIKE TO ASK [00:50:24] ABOUT INFLATION BECAUSE INFLATION IS REALLY BAD RIGHT NOW AND THE ECONOMY WAS BAD [00:50:28] UNDER BIDEN IN MY OPINION. AND IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE GETTING ANY BETTER. [00:50:31] SO I GUESS MY QUESTION WITH REGARDS TO CONGRESS ABOUT [00:50:34] INFLATION -- [00:50:40] GUEST: WHAT? HOST: KEN FROM WASHINGTON D.C. [00:50:43] AN INDEPENDENT. CALLER: GOOD MORNING, THANKS [00:50:46] FOR TAKING MY CALL. ELDER GREEN, REPRESENTATIVE [00:50:50] GREEN, I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK [00:50:51] THAT YOU'VE DONE, I ADMIRE THE [00:50:54] WORK YOU'VE DONE. AND AT TIMES IT SEEMS LIKE [00:50:57] YOU'RE ALONE SOMETIMES ON THE [00:51:00] HILL. REPRESENTING PARTICULARLY OUR [00:51:03] INTEREST AS MEN AND WOMEN OF [00:51:05] COLOR SO I CONTINUALLY SALUTE [00:51:08] THE WORK YOU'VE DONE. PART OF THE QUESTION I HAVE, WE'RE GOING BACK TO WHAT A [00:51:12] CALLER MENTIONED TO YOU SOMETHING ABOUT MIGRANTS DOING CRIME. [00:51:16] WE KNOW RIGHT NOW WHAT TRUMP IS DOING AT THE SMITHSONIAN. [00:51:20] YOU KNOW, TRYING TO REWRITE HISTORY, IF YOU WANT TO TALK [00:51:24] ABOUT RAPE AND MURDER AND OPPRESSION, YOU CAN START THERE [00:51:28] WITH THE ACTUAL U.S. HISTORY OF [00:51:30] PEOPLE THAT, OF COURSE, LIVED HERE. [00:51:32] AND I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE [00:51:35] PHILLIP JOYNER, 1868 WHEN HE AND [00:51:40] HUNDREDS OF FREE BLACK MEN AND [00:51:42] WOMEN MARCHED IN SOUTHWESTERN [00:51:45] GEORGIA TO JUST USE THEIR CIVIC DUTY TO GET THEIR RIGHTS AFTER [00:51:49] THEY WERE TAKEN FROM THEM. AND THEY WERE MASSACRED, THEY WERE KILLED. [00:51:53] THESE ARE TRUTHFUL THINGS THAT I KNOW YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT A LOT [00:51:57] OF CALLERS DON'T. [00:51:59] BUT MY QUESTION IS -- IS [00:52:02] TWOFOLD, ONE I'M DISAPPOINTED AT [00:52:04] THE TEN MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, [00:52:07] YOUR PARTY MEMBERS THAT VOTED TO [00:52:08] CENSURE YOU WHEN YOU STOOD UP [00:52:12] LIKE A BLACK MAN WITH CONVICTION DOES IN THIS COUNTRY. [00:52:15] THAT -- AND SO I GUESS MY [00:52:18] QUESTION BECOMES, WHY CAN WE NOT [00:52:22] MOTIVATE NOT JUST THE REPUBLICANS, BUT EVEN THE [00:52:25] DEMOCRATIC PARTY TO HAVE SOMETHING IN PARTICULAR FOR [00:52:27] PEOPLE OF COLOR THAT HAVE [00:52:30] INHERITED THE DISCRIMINATION OF [00:52:32] RACISM THAT THIS NATION HAS PRODUCED. [00:52:35] WHY IS THERE NO BUREAU OF FREE [00:52:38] AFFAIRS OF SOME SORT OF [00:52:41] RECLAMATION BUREAU FOR PEOPLE OF COLOR IN THIS COUNTRY? [00:52:45] IF I CRITICIZE THE WRONG NATION [00:52:47] THEY CONTINUALLY GET THE SUPPORT AND THEY ARE AS RACIST AS ANY [00:52:51] OTHER COUNTRY IN THIS NATION. AGAIN I SALUTE YOU AND I [00:52:54] APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU'RE DOING. [00:52:56] KEEP UP THE GREAT JOB. [00:52:59] GUEST: I HAVE LEGISLATION [00:53:00] CALLING FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF [00:53:05] RECONCILIATION, TO DEAL WITH THE [00:53:06] ISSUE OF ENSLAVMENT OF AFRICAN [00:53:10] AMERICANS FOR MORE THAN 240 [00:53:12] YEARS THESE PEOPLE PLANTED THE [00:53:15] SEEDS, CROPS, HAND A HAND IN BUILDING THE WHITE HOUSE, THE [00:53:19] CAPITOL. THEY ARE THE ECONOMIC FOUNDATION [00:53:21] OF MOTHERS AND FATHERS OF THIS COUNTRY AND THEY HAVE BEEN [00:53:24] TREATED LIKE THROW AWAYS LIKE THEIR LIVES DIDN'T MEAN ANYTHING. [00:53:28] THEY SHOULD BE HONORED AND [00:53:30] RESPECTED JUST AS WE HAVE [00:53:35] HONORED CONFEDERATE SOLDIERS, WE [00:53:36] SHOULD ACCORD THE ENSLAVED TOO. [00:53:40] WE RECOGNIZE 9/11 AND SHOULD COMMEMORATE IT. [00:53:44] WE RECOGNIZE PEARL HARBOR AND SHOULD COMMEMORATE IT. [00:53:47] WE RECOGNIZE THE HOLOCAUST AND [00:53:51] COMMEMORATE IT. IF WE CAN RECOGNIZE ALL OF THOSE [00:53:55] WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE ENSLAVEMENT OF PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY. [00:53:58] IT'S EASY TO LOOK INTO THE WINDOW OF LIFE AND SEE WHAT [00:54:01] HAPPENED IN NAZI JOURNEY AND [00:54:03] CRITICIZE WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM [00:54:07] BUT IT'S DIFFICULT TO LOOK AND SEE THE DEED IMPOSED ON PEOPLE [00:54:11] IN THIS COUNTRY FOR MORE THAN [00:54:13] 240 YEARS. THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO HAVE THEIR [00:54:17] WORK BE RECOGNIZED AND BE [00:54:21] COMMEMORATED FOR THAT THEY HAVE DONE TO MAKE AMERICA THE COUNTRY IT IS. [00:54:25] HOST: DOC FROM PORTLAND, [00:54:29] OREGON, AN INDEPENDENT. [00:54:31] YOU'RE ON, DOC. [00:54:33] CALLER: I HAVE A QUESTION. LOOKING TO THE DECEMBER REMOVAL [00:54:37] OF THE DEBT CEILING. I NOTICED THAT THERE'S [00:54:41] INFORMATION ABOUT THE DEBTS TO PENNY DATA. [00:54:45] WE REACHED 40 TRILLION DOLLAR IN DEBT. [00:54:47] I'M WONDERING WHAT THE PLAN IS [00:54:49] TO DEAL WITH THAT WHEN IT COULD [00:54:53] ROUND UP AN ENTIRE INTERNATIONAL [00:55:08] PLAYERS. GUEST: HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS, [00:55:10] REPUBLICANS GO ON A BIG SPENDING [00:55:13] SPREE AND WHEN DEMOCRATS ARE ABOUT TO TAKE THE WHITE HOUSE, [00:55:17] THE GOVERNMENT, HOUSE, SENATE, ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY BECOME [00:55:20] PERSONS CALLING FOR AUSTERITY, [00:55:22] THEY NO LONGER WANT SPENDING, THEY WANT CUTS. [00:55:25] THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T BREAK THE BANK AS IT WERE. [00:55:29] WE DON'T PUT THE COUNTRY INTO DEBT SUCH THAT WE CAN'T COVER [00:55:32] OUR BILLS. THE DEMOCRATS ALWAYS FIND THEMSELVES COMING IN TO CLEAN UP [00:55:36] THE REPUBLICAN MESS. AND THAT'S WHAT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN NOW. [00:55:39] DEMOCRATS TAKE CONTROL, THEY [00:55:42] HAVE TO NOW CLEAN UP ALL OF [00:55:44] THESE VARIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES THAT ARE REPUGNANT THAT THE [00:55:47] REPUBLICANS HAVE PUT IN MOTION. CLEAN UP THE WAR THAT THE -- THE [00:55:51] WAR OF CHOICE THAT THE PRESIDENT [00:55:53] CHOSE TO GET HIMSELF INTO. [00:55:55] CLEAN UP THE TARIFFS THAT THE [00:55:58] PRESIDENT IMPOSED THAT WERE PASSED ON TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. [00:56:02] OURS BECOME THE CLEANUP CREW, [00:56:06] THEY BECOME THE WRECKING CREW. [00:56:09] WE CLEAN IT UP, THEY COME IN, GO [00:56:12] ON A SPENDING SPREE, TALK ABOUT HOW THEY HAVE TO DO ALL THESE [00:56:16] THINGS. I'M FOR CLEANING UP, BUT I'M [00:56:18] ALSO FOR TAKING CARE OF HEALTH [00:56:21] CARE, FOR SOCIAL SECURITY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE [00:56:24] CAN BUY FOOD, HAVE CLOTHING AND SHELTER. [00:56:27] I'M FOR AFFORDABILITY. [00:56:29] BUT I'M FOR AFFORDABILITY NOT TO [00:56:31] THE EXCLUSION OF ACCOUNTABILITY. PEOPLE HAVE TO BE HELD [00:56:35] ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR TRANSGRESSIONS. [00:56:37] WE CAN HAVE AFFORDABILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY. [00:56:41] WE CANNOT ALLOW FOUR PEOPLE TO BE KILLED IN THE CIRCUMSTANCES [00:56:45] WE SAW WITH OUR VERY OWN EYES IN A COUPLE OF OF THESE CASES SAW [00:56:49] THE CIRCUMSTANCES AND DIDN'T DO NOTHING AND ALLOWED THE [00:56:52] PRESIDENT TO SAY, WELL, IF THEY [00:56:55] ARE CONVICTED WE'LL GIVE HIM A PARDON. [00:56:57] HOST: WE'RE OUT OF TIME BUT SINCE YOU SERVE ON THE FINANCIAL [00:57:01] SERVICES COMMITTEE WHICH HAS OVERSIGHT OF THE FEDERAL [00:57:04] RESERVE, THEY'RE MEETING THIS WEEK, DO YOU BELIEVE THEY SHOULD [00:57:06] RAISE INTEREST RATES? [00:57:09] GUEST: I THINK WE HAVE TO BE [00:57:12] MEASURED ABOUT THIS. [00:57:14] IT APPEARS TO ME THAT WHEN YOUR [00:57:18] ECONOMY IS OVER HEATING, YOU [00:57:20] HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO COOL IT. [00:57:24] THAT IS, GENERALLY SPEAKING, WHAT IS DONE. I DON'T KNOW THAT I WANT TO SEE [00:57:28] THEM RAISE THE INTEREST RATES TO [00:57:31] A POSITION SUCH THAT YOU GO TO A [00:57:35] POINT WHERE WE CANNOT AFFORD [00:57:36] SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE [00:57:40] NECESSARY, AFFORD MORTGAGES AND THAT SORT OF THING BECAUSE WHEN [00:57:44] YOU RAISE INTEREST RATES YOU IMPACT THESE THINGS. [00:57:46] BUT I CAN SEE THEM RAISING INTEREST RATES A BIT TO SIGNAL [00:57:50] THEY WANT TO COOL THE ECONOMY AND MAKE SURE WE CAN HAVE LOWER [00:57:54] INTEREST RATES IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE WANT PEOPLE [00:57:57] TO BE ABLE TO BUY HOMES. HOST: WE'RE OUT OF TIME. [00:58:01] I WISH WE HAD MORE TIME. [00:58:04] GUEST: INVITE ME BACK AND THE PEOPLE IN THE AXIOS ARTICLE HAVE THEM SIT HERE WITH ME. [00:58:08] LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS ON THE AIR. HAVE ALL OF THEM COME. [00:58:12] I'LL DEBATE ALL OF THEM AT ONE TIME. [00:58:14] HOST: WE'LL TRY TO DO THAT. [00:58:19] CONGRESSMAN AL GREEN FROM TEXAS, A DEMOCRAT. [00:58:22] THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. AND UP NEXT A CONVERSATION WITH [00:58:25] AMY KREMER, ABOUT HER NEW PUSH TO REGULATE A.I. AND SLOW THE [00:58:29] EXPANSION OF DATA CENTERS NATIONWIDE. [00:58:31] STAY WITH US. [00:58:47] >> YOU'RE WATCHING CSPAN. [00:58:50] DEMOCRACY UNFILTERED. [00:58:55] >> CSPAN BRINGS YOU DEMOCRACY UNFILTERED IN REAL TIME. [00:59:00] DEMOCRACY DOESN'T TAKE SIDES. NEITHER DOES CSPAN. [00:59:03] IN A WORLD FULL OF OPINIONS, [00:59:05] CSPAN GIVES YOU DIRECT ACCESS TO THE PEOPLE AND INSTITUTIONS THAT [00:59:09] SHAPE OUR NATION. UNFILTERED COVERAGE OF CONGRESS [00:59:12] AS LAWS ARE DEBATED AND DECIDED. [00:59:15] LIVE PROCEEDING FROM THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT, [00:59:18] PRESIDENTIAL SPEECHES, BRIEFINGS AND HISTORIC MOMENTS AS THEY [00:59:22] HAPPEN. NO COMMENTARY, NO SPIN, NO AGENDA. [00:59:26] JUST THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS, PRESENTED IN FULL WITHOUT [00:59:29] INTERRUPTION, SO YOU CAN WATCH THE DEBATES, HEAR EVERY WORD AND [00:59:33] MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND. [00:59:35] >> CSPAN'S RESPECTED NONPROFIT [00:59:38] SERVICE HAS OFFERED AMERICANS [00:59:43] UNFILTERED GAVEL-TO-GAVEL COVERAGE OF THEIR GOVERNMENT IN ACTION. [00:59:47] >> CSPAN BRINGING YOU DEMOCRACY UNFILTERED. [00:59:50] CSPAN IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE CABLE, SATELLITE AND STREAMING [00:59:54] COMPANIES THAT PROVIDE CSPAN AS A PUBLIC SERVICE. [00:59:57] >> THE ROAD TO THE CAPITAL RUNS THROUGH AMERICA'S BATTLEGROUND [01:00:01] STATES AND CSPAN IS THERE, OUR [01:00:03] CAMERAS ARE ON THE GROUND FOLLOWING THE CAMPAIGNS WHERE [01:00:07] THE TOUGHEST RACES FIND THE BALANCE OF POWER IN CONGRESS. [01:00:10] WE'RE THE ONLY TELEVISION NETWORK PROVIDING THIS LEVEL OF [01:00:14] UNFILTERED ACCESS TO THE [01:00:16] CANDIDATES, THE VOTERS AND THE [01:00:18] ISSUES FACING 2026, NO [01:00:20] COMMENTERS TELLING YOU WHAT TO [01:00:23] THINK, NO PARTISAN SPIN, THE ROAD TO THE CAPITAL ONLY ON [01:00:27] CSPAN. >> "WASHINGTON JOURNAL" CONTINUES. HOST: HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE [01:00:30] CONVERSATION [01:00:33] HOST: HUMAN FIRST CHAIR AMY KREMER IS HERE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US THIS MORNING. [01:00:37] GUEST: THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE. [01:00:40] HOST: WE'LL GET TO QUESTIONS IN A LITTLE BIT, BUT FIRST I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT HIGHWAY YOU GOT TO THIS PLACE. [01:00:44] LAST NIGHT I READ THIS ARTICLE FROM "THE WASHINGTON POST," A GREAT ARTICLE THAT TALKED ABOUT [01:00:48] YOUR NEW EFFORT OVER THE SUMMER. [01:00:53] SHE SAYS THE 2020 ELECTION WAS STOLEN, BUT SEES A NEW THREAT IN [01:00:56] TECH BILLIONAIRES' POWER. IT GOES ON TO SAY IN THE HOURS [01:00:59] BEFORE A VIOLENT MOB DESCENDED ON THE U.S. CAPITOL, AMY KREMER [01:01:03] LED A RALLY NEAR THE WHITE HOUSE CALLING ON CONGRESS TO OVERTURN [01:01:07] PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP'S DECEIT IN THE 2020 ELECTION. FIVE YEARS HOUSE REPORT, KREMER [01:01:11] STILLLESS THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN, BUT THESE DAYS SHE HAS A [01:01:13] NEW TARGET, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE COMPANIES. [01:01:16] TELL US HOW YOU GOT HERE. GUEST: WELL, I GOT HERE BY [01:01:19] PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT WAS GOING ON, AND I SAW BACK IN THE [01:01:23] FALL OF 2024 THE DATA CENTER [01:01:27] FIGHTS POPPING UP ACROSS THE COUNTRY. EVERYBODY KEPT SAYING THESE ARE LOCAL ISSUES, AND THERE WAS [01:01:32] SOMETHING ABOUT IT THAT REMINDED ME OF THE TEA PARTY MOVEMENT [01:01:35] BACK IN AUGUST OF 2009, WHEN MEMBERS OF CONGRESS WERE HAVING [01:01:38] THEIR TOWN HALLS AND PEOPLE WERE VERY UPSET AND ANGRY. [01:01:42] AND IT CONTINUED TO GROW. PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO [01:01:45] GO AWAY, AND IT HAS NOT. THEY'RE EVERYWHERE NOW. [01:01:48] AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE VERY [01:01:50] CONCERNED ABOUT, AND THEN WHEN I CONNECTED DATA CENTERS TO A.I. [01:01:54] AND LEARNED WHAT WAS HAPPENING [01:01:56] TO CHILDREN AND THE MANIPULATION [01:01:59] BY CHATBOTS AND CHILDREN TAKING THEIR OWN LIVES AND HARMING [01:02:02] THEMSELVES, THAT'S WHEN I WAS [01:02:04] LIKE, AS A MOM, IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY CONCERNING TO ME. [01:02:08] OUR CHILDREN ARE THE MOST VULNERABLE, AND WE NEED TO STAND UP AND FIGHT FOR THEM. [01:02:12] SO THAT'S HOW I GOT HERE. HOST: WHO WHO DO YOU WORK WITH [01:02:17] AT HUMAN FIRST? [01:02:19] GUEST: I WORK WITH A NUMBER OF CONSERVATIVES, AND WE ARE ALL IN [01:02:22] ON THIS FIGHT. THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT I'VE [01:02:25] WORKED WITH IN THE TEA PARTY MOVEMENT, AND I'M EXCITED TO BE [01:02:28] HERE WITH THEM. [01:02:30] HOST: OUTSIDE OF KIND OF THE [01:02:32] PUTTING TWO TOGETHER, THE DATA [01:02:34] CENTERS AND THE A.I., I MEAN, DO [01:02:38] YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL CONCERNS ABOUT THE ROLE OF A.I., [01:02:42] PARTICULARLY AFTER WE'VE HEARD [01:02:43] IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS TECH [01:02:47] COMPANIES OWNERS CALLING FOR MORE REGULATION, TALKING ABOUT [01:02:50] THE ENTITY? GUEST: THIS IS NOTHING NEW TO ME. [01:02:53] I THINK THE STORY IS THAT IT'S ACTUALLY OUT THERE IN THE PUBLIC [01:02:56] AND PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT. AS I'VE LEARNED MORE AND MOTHER [01:02:59] ABOUT THIS TECHNOLOGY, IT'S VERY CONCERNING THAT THERE'S NO [01:03:03] REGULATIONS AROUND IT WHATSOEVER. THERE'S MORE REGULATIONS AROUND [01:03:07] A HOTDOG THAT YOU WOULD BUY FROM THE STREET VENDOR IN NEW YORK CITY THAN THERE ARE THE [01:03:11] TECHNOLOGY. AND WHAT WE'RE LEARNING IS THAT [01:03:13] THE TECHNOLOGY IS BEING USED BY [01:03:19] BOKO HARAM, THE HOUTHIS, IN SHOOTINGS, FLORIDA STATE [01:03:22] UNIVERSITY, THE SHOOTING IN BRITISH COLUMBIA EARLY THIS YEAR, AND THERE'S NOTICE [01:03:27] REGULATIONS AND THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO REPORT THIS TOTE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR ANYBODY ELSE. THAT IS VERY CONCERNING. [01:03:31] AND ALL AMERICANS SHOULD BE CONCERNED. [01:03:33] HOST: WE WILL BE TAKING SOME PHONE CALLS. I'LL REMIND UP OF YOUR LINES. [01:03:37] CALL IN AND ASK AMY SOME QUESTIONS. [01:03:40] WE'RE TALKING A.I. THIS MORNING. [01:03:44] DEMOCRATS, 202-748-8000. [01:03:48] REPUBLICANS, 202-748-8001. [01:03:50] INDEPENDENTS, 202-748-8002. [01:03:53] START CALLING IN NOW SO YOU CAN GET IN TO SOME GOOD QUESTIONS. [01:03:56] I'M LOOKING AT THIS GALLUP POLL [01:04:00] THAT WAS PUBLISHED IN JULY, [01:04:02] AMERICANS COOL TOWARD A.I. [01:04:04] AND IT SHOWS THAT MORE AMERICANS [01:04:07] BELIEVE THAT A.I. DOES MORE HARM THAN GOOD. IT ACTUALLY HAS AN INTERESTING [01:04:11] GRAPHIC HERE SHOWING HOW THAT [01:04:14] HAS CHANGED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. [01:04:16] I WONDER, WHY DO YOU BELIEVE [01:04:19] THAT NOW A MAJORITY OF AMERICANS [01:04:22] HAVE BECOME AT LEAST SKEPTICAL OF A.I.? YOU START THIS PROCESS YOU SAID [01:04:25] IN 2024. NOW IT'S 2026. WHAT ARE YOU HEARING? [01:04:28] GUEST: WELL, IT'S ACROSS THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM. [01:04:31] I THINK IT'S AN 80-20 ISSUE. I WILL TELL YOU THIS, WHEN WE [01:04:35] HAD A NATIONWIDE DAY OF PROTESTS [01:04:38] FOR DATA CENTERS BACK IN JULY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS VERY [01:04:42] INTERESTING TO ME IS THERE WERE A LOT OF SIGNS ABOUT A.I., NOT [01:04:46] ABOUT THE DATA CENTERS, ABOUT THE ELECTRICITY AND THE WATER [01:04:49] AND THE LAND AND EMINENT DOMAIN, THE ISSUES THAT PEOPLE ARE [01:04:53] CONCERNED ABOUT SURROUNDING DATA CENTERS. THERE WERE A LOT OF SIGNS, A LOT [01:04:57] OF T-SHIRTS ABOUT A.I. AND THAT WAS KIND OF SHOCKING TO ME. [01:05:00] AND WE'RE HEARING IT MORE AND MORE. BUT IT SHOULDN'T SURPRISE US, [01:05:04] BECAUSE A.I. IS TOUCHING EVERY [01:05:06] ASPECT OF OUR LIVES, AND WE'VE [01:05:10] HAD NO SAY AT THIS. IT'S BEING SHOVED DOWN THE [01:05:13] AMERICAN THROAT, AND THEY DON'T LIKE IT. [01:05:16] HOST: YOU SAID IT'S ACROSS THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM, BECAUSE YOU [01:05:19] WORK WITH A LOT OF [01:05:23] CONSERVATIVES, BUT YOU WORKED WITH PROGRESSIVES EARLIER. [01:05:26] TODAY WE'LL SEE INDEPENDENT SENATOR WHO CAUCUSES WITH [01:05:29] SENATORS, BERNIE SANDERS OF [01:05:31] VERMONT, AT THE SAME A.I. FORUM, [01:05:35] PRO HUMAN FOR HER 'EM WITH STEVE [01:05:38] BANNON, MAGA ADVISOR. HOW THE OVERLAP, EXPLAIN HOW THIS CROSSES THE POLITICAL [01:05:43] DIVIDE. GUEST: BECAUSE IT'S NOT ABOUT PARTY POLITICS. A.I. DOESN'T CARE WHAT PARTY YOU [01:05:47] BELONG TO. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR [01:05:49] POLITICAL IDEOLOGY. THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT CONCERNS [01:05:53] ALL AMERICANS. I MEAN, YOU OPEN YOUR EMAIL, AND [01:05:55] THERE IT IS IN YOUR EMAIL. [01:05:57] LET ME SUMMARIZE THIS. I DON'T REMEMBER EVER ASKING FOR [01:06:01] THAT. MOST PEOPLE DON'T REMEMBER ASKING FOR THAT SORT OF THING. [01:06:05] AND THEN YOU'RE FINDING OUT [01:06:06] ABOUT THE BUILDOUT AND INFRASTRUCTURE. [01:06:10] IT'S VERY CONCERNING THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A [01:06:11] VOICE, AND CONGRESS DOES NOT GOVERN. PEOPLE ARE LOOKING TO THE [01:06:15] PRESIDENT TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS. THE PRESIDENT IS NOT A LAWMAKER. [01:06:19] IT IS CONGRESS' JOB TO ACT. [01:06:21] AND NO ONE HAS DONE ANYTHING. THERE HAS BEEN SOME LEGISLATION [01:06:25] THAT HAS BEEN WRITTEN, THAT'S BEEN GOOD LEGISLATION, BUT THEY [01:06:28] HAVE NOT ACTED. I MEAN, I THINK THEY'RE SHIRKING THEIR RESPONSIBILITY. [01:06:32] THEIR NUMBER ONE RESPONSIBILITY IS OUR NATIONAL SECURITY, AND [01:06:36] HOW IS THIS TECHNOLOGY IMPACTING OUR NATIONAL SECURITY? [01:06:39] I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR, WE'RE NOT ANTI-A.I. [01:06:42] WE'RE NOT ANTI-TECH. WE'RE NOT EVEN ANTI-DATA CENTER. [01:06:45] WE JUST WANT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE AND [01:06:48] A VOICE IN HOW THIS TECHNOLOGY IMPACTS OUR LIVES ANYWAY, HOW IT [01:06:52] WILL IMPACT OUR LIVES IN THE FUTURE, AND HOW THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS BUILT OUT. [01:06:56] HOST: I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT [01:06:58] THE PRESIDENT IN A SECOND, BUT [01:07:01] JUST YESTERDAY, SENATE MAJORITY LEADER JOHN THUNE SAID THAT A [01:07:04] LIGHT TOUCH WAS NEED WHEN HAD IT COMES TO THIS ISSUE OF A.I. [01:07:07] WE PLAYED A CLIP EARLIER WITH SPEAKER JOHN THUNE, WHO SAID [01:07:11] THAT CONGRESS SHOULD BE INVOLVED, BUT IT IS ALSO UP TO [01:07:14] THE TECH COMPANIES TO REGULATE THEMSELVES AND THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A MEETING LATER ON [01:07:18] WITH LAWMAKERS AND A.I. COMPANIES. [01:07:20] I MEAN, IS THAT ENOUGH THAT YOU'RE SEEING FROM YOUR [01:07:24] REPUBLICAN PARTY? GUEST: YOU CAN PUT ANY LABEL YOU [01:07:28] WANT TO ON IT, LIGHT TOUCH, BUT [01:07:31] I DO NOT THINK THESE COMPANIES SHOULD SELF-REGULATE, ABSOLUTELY NOT. [01:07:34] I THINK IT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE GOVERNMENT TO ACT. THAT'S ANTITHETICAL. [01:07:38] I'M A CONSERVATIVE. IT'S ANTITHETICAL TO WHO I AM. [01:07:42] I'D NEVER ADVOCATE FOR MORE GOVERNMENT, BUT I KNOW THIS IS [01:07:45] THE MOST POWERFUL TECHNOLOGY IN HUMAN HISTORY, AND SOMETHING HAS [01:07:48] TO BE DONE ABOUT IT. [01:07:50] AND WHO ELSE IS GOING TO DO THAT [01:07:53] BESIDES OUR REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT? IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY SO [01:07:57] TAKE ACTION. HOST: LAST QUESTION BEFORE WE [01:07:59] TURN TO THE NEXT PHONE CALL, I KNOW YOU SAID YOU WORK WITH [01:08:02] PROGRESSIVES AND THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL PARTY ISSUE, BUT CAN [01:08:05] YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE FOUND WHEN WORKING ACROSS THE [01:08:09] AISLE WITH PROGRESSIVES, WITH DEMOCRATS ON THIS ISSUE? WHAT HAS BEEN A POSITIVE, AND [01:08:13] ALSO WHAT'S BEEN A NEGATIVE? GUEST: WE HAVEN'T REALLY WORKED [01:08:17] WITH PROGRESSIVES. WE STARTED OUT WITH A LEFT [01:08:21] LEANING COALITION AND A RIGHT LEANING COALITION, AND THEN THE ORGANIZATION SPLIT INTO TWO [01:08:25] SEPARATE ORGANIZATIONS, BECAUSE [01:08:26] THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT JUST WORK DIFFERENTLY. [01:08:29] WE ORGANIZE IN A DIFFERENT WAY T. I MEAN, WHEN YOU'RE IN POWER [01:08:33] AND YOU HAVE TO DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY, IT JUST WASN'T GOING TO WORK. [01:08:36] AND IF YOU WANT TO BE EFFECTIVE, YOU CAN'T BE CONSTRAINED BY [01:08:39] ANOTHER COALITION IN YOUR OWN ORGANIZATION. [01:08:43] SO WE SPLIT, AND SO I HAVE BEEN FOCUSED ON ORGANIZING AND [01:08:46] RALLYING CONSERVATIVES AROUND THIS CAUSE AND SAYING, IT'S OK [01:08:50] TO BE A CONSERVATIVE AND TO WANT REGULATION AROUND THE A.I. AND [01:08:54] TO WANT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO DO SOMETHING. [01:08:56] AND I WILL TELL YOU, WE'RE [01:08:59] COMING UP ON JANUARY, ALL THESE STATE LEGISLATURES ARE GOING [01:09:02] BACK INTO SESSION, AND I EXPECT THERE WILL PROBABLY BE A NUMBER [01:09:05] OF STATES THAT WILL TAKE ACTION [01:09:08] ON A STATE LEVEL BECAUSE CONGRESS HAS NOT ACTED. [01:09:11] HOST: I WANT TO READ TWO SOCIALS FROM THE PRESIDENT HERE. [01:09:14] I POSTED THIS YESTERDAY, HE SAYS [01:09:16] THE ONLY CONTROL OR GUARDRAIL [01:09:18] THAT A.I. NEEDS IS A STRONG AND [01:09:20] SMART, HIGH I.Q. PRESIDENT, AND [01:09:22] THE U.S.A. THAT HAS THAT IN SPADES. THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAS [01:09:26] STOPPED A.I. PEOPLE FROM DOING BAD OR POTENTIALLY BAD THINGS, [01:09:30] LIKE DARIO ANTHROPIC WHO IS NOW PRETENDING TO BE A PERFECT [01:09:33] LITTLE ANGEL, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO. [01:09:36] WE HAVE ALREADY TREMENDOUS CRIMINAL AND REGULATORY POWER OVER THESE COMPANIES. [01:09:40] THERE IS A SICK CONSPIRACY GOING ON AGAINST A.I. AND DATA [01:09:43] CENTERS, AND THE ONLY ONE THAT IS HAPPY ABOUT IT IS CHINA. [01:09:47] WHOEVER WINS A.I., WINS. WE ARE LEADING CHINA AND ALL [01:09:50] OTHERS, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO. CONSPIRACY THEORISTS, [01:09:54] TREASONNISTS, TRAITS AND LEAKERS, BEWARE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER. [01:09:57] HE LATER CALLED IT A SMOKES SAID HE WAS A HOAX BUSTER. HOW DOES THIS ALIGN WITH YOUR [01:10:01] POSITION RIGHT NOW? GUEST: WELL, THE PRESIDENT IS [01:10:05] RUNNING THE COUNTRY. THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES HE'S DEALING WITH. [01:10:08] THERE'S A WAR IN IRAN. THERE'S UKRAINE-RUSSIA. [01:10:11] HOST: BUT A.I. IS ONE OF THEM. GUEST: HE'S ALSO NOT A TECH PERSON. [01:10:15] JUST LIKE I'M NOT A TECH PERSON. HE'S ONLY AS GOOD AS PEOPLE IN [01:10:18] HIS EAR AND THE PEOPLE AROUND HIM. I THINK HE'S HAD SOME BAD PEOPLE [01:10:21] AROUND HIM GIVING HIM ADVICE OWE THIS. HE'S ABOUT TO HIT THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, AND I THINK HE'S GOING TO [01:10:25] HEAR FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, AND THAT GIVES ME HOPE. [01:10:29] BECAUSE I HOPE HE MOVES OUR WAY. [01:10:31] I WOULD LIKE THE PRESIDENT TO [01:10:34] TALK TO THE MOTHER OF A [01:10:37] 23-YEAR-OLD GRADUATE FROM TEXAS A&M WHO TOOK HIS OWN LIFE [01:10:41] BECAUSE HE WAS MANIPULATED BY A CHATBOT. [01:10:44] A 14-YEAR-OLD BOY OUT OF [01:10:46] ORLANDO, FLORIDA, HIS MOTHER [01:10:49] MEGAN GARCIA, IT HER SON WAS MANIPULATED BY A CHATBOT. [01:10:53] THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIED BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN MANIPULATED BY THESE CHATBOTS. [01:10:57] AND THE ONLY REASON WE KNOW ABOUT THIS STUFF IS BECAUSE OF [01:11:00] LAWSUITS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED BY THE FAMILIES T. OTHERWISE WE WOULD HAVE NO IDEA. [01:11:04] WE HONESTLY DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN [01:11:08] OR HOW MANY TIMES THIS HAS HAPPENED. AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE NEED. [01:11:11] WE NEED TRANSPARENCY, AND I WOULD LOVE FOR THE PRESIDENT TO [01:11:14] TALK TO THESE PARENTS AND SEE HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THIS. [01:11:16] BECAUSE IT IS A VERY REAL ISSUE, [01:11:19] AND IT IS VERY CONCERNING TO [01:11:21] MANY PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY. HOST: WHO DO YOU BELIEVE IS [01:11:25] GIVING THE PRESIDENT BAD ADVICE? GUEST: DAVID SACKS. [01:11:28] HOST: ANYBODY ELSE? GUEST: I MEAN, LOOK, LET ME JUST [01:11:31] SAY THIS -- HOST: HE MET WITH APPLE SALTMAN, [01:11:34] ACCORDING TO MSNOW OVER THE WEEKEND. ERING HEARING FROM A LOT OF [01:11:38] PEOPLE. I WONDER WHAT YOU THINK THE EXAMPLES ARE. [01:11:40] GUEST: I WILL SAY THIS, THESE [01:11:42] TECH C.E.O.'S ARE THE SAME TECH [01:11:45] C.E.O.'S THAT BANNED THE PRESIDENT AND CONSERVATIVES [01:11:49] AFTER THE 2020 ELECTION. [01:11:52] MARK ZUCKERBERG, NUMBER ONE, BANNED PRESIDENT TRUMP FROM [01:11:54] FACEBOOK AND INSTAGRAM FOR LIFE. AND THEN HE COMES BACK INTO [01:11:58] POWER, AND MARK ZUCKERBERG IS [01:12:01] DOE NIGHTING TO THE INAUGURATION AND COZYING UP TO THE PRESIDENT. [01:12:05] ALL THESE PEOPLE CARE ABOUT IS MONEY AND POWER. THAT'S ALL THEY CARE ABOUT. [01:12:08] AS SOON AS REPUBLICANS ARE NO LONGER IN CHARGE, THEY'RE GOING TO COZY UP TO A DEMOCRAT AND [01:12:12] KICK CONSERVATIVES TO THE CURB. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT REPUBLICANS. [01:12:15] THEY CARE ABOUT POWER. THAT'S ALL THEY CARE ABOUT. [01:12:17] HOST: RALPH FROM MICHIGAN, A DEMOCRAT. [01:12:21] GOOD MORNING, RALPH. [01:12:22] GUEST: YES, I HAVE TO ASK ABOUT [01:12:26] THE SUPPOSED STOLEN ELECTION IN [01:12:30] 2020 WHERE JOE BIDEN BEAT DONALD TRUMP. [01:12:33] I HAVE HERE, THIS IS A SCREEN [01:12:35] SHOT, IT SAYS A.P. PROBE, THIS [01:12:37] WAS REPORTED ON FOX NEWS, IT [01:12:39] SAYS A.P. PROBE, NO CONSPIRACY [01:12:42] TO RIG 2020 ELECTION. [01:12:44] IT WAS AN AUDIT, IN FACT. [01:12:47] IT SAYS THEY AUDITED THE VOTES [01:12:52] IN THE SIX BATTLEGROUND STATES, [01:12:58] AND OUT OF 21 MILLION VOTES [01:13:01] CAST, ACCORDING TO THE A.P., [01:13:05] ONLY 473, I LAUGH, I'M SORRY, [01:13:07] ONLY 473 WERE FOUND TO BE SUSPICIOUS. [01:13:11] SO THE A.P. CONCLUDED. [01:13:15] NOW, MY VIEW OF THE 2020 ELECTION WAS IT WAS FAIR, THERE [01:13:18] WASN'T ANY CHEATING. THE CHEATING THAT I'M AWARE OF [01:13:21] WAS SORT OF ON THE REPUBLICAN [01:13:25] SIDE. HOST: RALPH, I WONDER IF YOU'VE GOT A QUESTION. GUEST: YEAH. [01:13:29] DO YOU BELIEVE -- OK, THE FIRST [01:13:30] QUESTION IS, WHERE WAS THE VOTE [01:13:33] FRAUD IN THE SIX BATTLEGROUND STATES? [01:13:36] IT SAYS HERE, ACCORDING TO THE [01:13:38] A.P. PROBE, ONLY 473 VOTES OUT [01:13:41] OF 21 MILLION WERE SUSPICIOUS. [01:13:44] THAT'S NOT A RIGGED ELECTION. [01:13:46] SO WHAT EVIDENCE DOES SHE HAVE [01:13:48] THAT THE ELECTION IN 2020 WAS RIGGED? CAN YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION? [01:13:52] HOST: ALL RIGHT, LET'S LET AMY GET IN HERE. GUEST: WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE [01:13:55] TO AGREE TO DISAGREE. I BELIEVE THE 2020 ELECTION WAS [01:13:59] STOLEN. IT'S INTERESTING THAT HE SAYS [01:14:00] THAT THE A.P. DID AN AUDIT IN [01:14:04] ALL THESE STATES, IN GEORGIA, WE CAN'T EVEN GET AN AUDIT OF THE [01:14:07] ELECTION IN GEORGIA. AND THERE WERE BALLOTS. [01:14:10] WE SAW THEM SEALED RECENT AM BY THE F.B.I. THEY'VE BEEN PUT UNDER SEAL. [01:14:14] THEY'RE THE ONLY BALLOTS LEFT FROM THE 2020 ELECTION. [01:14:17] AND WE WEREN'T ABLE TO HAVE THOSE BALLOTS. WE STILL DON'T HAVE THEM. [01:14:20] THE F.B.I. HAS THEM NOW. [01:14:23] SO THERE WERE A LOT OF IRREGULARITIES, A LOT OF THINGS [01:14:26] THAT WENT WRONG IN THE 2020 ELECTION. AND I THINK THAT IT'S ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES OF OUR [01:14:30] LIFETIME, BECAUSE FREE AND FAIR [01:14:32] ELECTIONS IS THE FOUNDATION OF OUR REPUBLIC. [01:14:36] AND WHEN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DON'T HAVE FAITH IN OUR [01:14:38] ELECTIONS, THAT'S A BIG CONCERN. HOST: I MEAN, AGAIN, TO RALPH'S [01:14:42] POINT, THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF WIDE SPREAD VOTER FRAUD. [01:14:44] GUEST: WELL, GO LOOK AT COUNTY [01:14:48] COMMISSION RACE FOR SEAT THREE IN GEORGIA, WHERE MICHELLE LONG [01:14:52] WAS RUNNING IN THAT ELECTION, AND SHE CAME IN THIRD IN THE PRIMARY. [01:14:56] SHE IS A DEMOCRAT, CAME IN THIRD IN THE PRIMARY. [01:14:59] ON ELECTION NIGHT, SHE HAD NO VOTES IN HER OWN PRECINCT. [01:15:03] SHE KNEW THAT WAS NOT RIGHT, BALLS HER AND HER HUSBAND HAD [01:15:06] VOTED IN HER PRECINCT FOR HERSELF. [01:15:08] SO THE JUDGE ALLOWED IT TO BE REOPENED AND DO AN AUDIT. [01:15:12] THEY KEPT RUNNING THE NUMBERS. THEY WEREN'T MATCHING. [01:15:15] IN THE END, GUESS WHAT, SHE ACTUALLY CAME IN FIRST IN THE [01:15:18] PERSON THAT CAME IN FIRST WAS IN THIRD PLACE. [01:15:21] AND IT TOOK A HAND COUNT OF [01:15:23] THOSE BALLOTS TO MAKE IT WORK. [01:15:25] AND SHE WAS A DEMOCRAT. [01:15:29] DEKALB COUNTY COMMISSION SEAT THREE. HOST: OK, LET'S TURN BACK TO [01:15:33] A.I. NOW. WE MIGHT GET MORE CALLS ON THE [01:15:36] ELECTION, BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, BACK TO A.I. [01:15:39] ON TWITTER, WE HAVE JEFF FROM [01:15:43] DEARBORN, MICHIGAN, WHO SAYS THAT IT'S KIND OF HARD FOR OUR GOVERNMENT TO ACT ON A.I. WHEN [01:15:46] SPEAKER JOHNSON HAS SENT THE LOWER HOUSE HOME, WOULDN'T YOU [01:15:50] SAY? HOW DO THEY ENFORCE THE LAW WHEN [01:15:53] TRUMP KEEPS PARDONING A.I. CRIMINALS? [01:15:57] NOW, CONGRESS IS IN THIS WEEK, BUT THEY WILL SOON BE GOING HOME [01:16:01] TO CAMPAIGN FOR THE MIDTERMS. BUT TWO QUESTIONS, AND HOW DO [01:16:04] THEY ENFORCE THE LAW WHEN [01:16:07] CONGRESS IS ABOUT TO BE OUT AND [01:16:10] WHEN THE PRESIDENT PERIOD A.I. CRIMINALS ACCORDING TO JEFF OF [01:16:14] DEARBORN, MICHIGAN? GUEST: I WILL SAY THIS, LEADERSHIP WOULD BE GETTING [01:16:18] CONGRESS BACK HERE AND HOLDING THEM HERE UNTIL THEY GOVERN. THEY NEED TO GOVERN. [01:16:22] AND THEY DON'T ENFORCE THE LAW. THEY MAKE THE LAW. [01:16:24] AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED RIGHT NOW. [01:16:26] WE NEED THEM TO REGULATE THIS. [01:16:29] WE NEED THEM TO GOVERN ON THIS. [01:16:32] AND I HOPE SPEAKER JOHNSON COMES [01:16:34] TO HIS SENSES AND WILL GET CONGRESS TO ACT ON THIS. [01:16:37] IT IS NOT, I DON'T THINK THESE C.E.O.'S CAN BE TRUSTED TO [01:16:41] SELF-REGULATE. I THINK THAT'S ABSURD ON ITS FACE. [01:16:45] HOST: SO FRANK FROM MARYLANDLESS THE PROBLEM IS THE CAT IS OUT OF [01:16:48] THE BAG, AND JUST AS THE ATOMIC [01:16:52] BOMB BECAME INEVITABLE ONCE WE KNEW IT COULD HAPPEN, SO WILL A.I. [01:16:55] YEP, WE NEED TO REGULATE, BUT I FEAR A.I. WILL BECOME THE RING [01:16:58] THAT CONTROLS US ALL. [01:17:02] WHAT'S YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT? GUEST: THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERNS [01:17:05] ABOUT A.I. I MEAN, THERE IS A LOT OF [01:17:07] CONCERNS ABOUT A.I. [01:17:10] AND YOU KNOW, CONTROLLING US ALL, I MEAN, IT YOU'RE HEARING [01:17:13] THESE LEADERS OUT THERE TALKING ABOUT THAT'S AN ESSENTIAL THREAT. [01:17:17] WHAT ABOUT THE THREAT OF WIPING HUMANITY OFF THE FACE OF THE PLANET? [01:17:20] THAT'S WHAT HUMANS FIRST IS ABOUT. [01:17:22] WE WANT A BOB ON SUPER INTELLIGENCE. -- A BAN ON SUPER INTELLIGENCE. [01:17:27] HUMANS FIRST. TECHNOLOGY SHOULD SERVE PEOPLE, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. [01:17:30] HOST: THIS IS FROM THE SAME "WASHINGTON POST" ARTICLE THAT I [01:17:33] READ EARLIER, IF MY PRODUCER [01:17:36] WOULD PUT UP A FULL SCREEN, THE GROUP INCOULD YOU BAITED BY THE [01:17:39] CENTER FOR A.I. SAFETY, A SAN [01:17:42] FRANCISCO OUTFIT THAT THEY SEEK [01:17:48] TO MITT LATE GIVING. THE CENTER PROVIDES A LOAN. [01:17:51] THE A.I. SAFETY CENTER'S INVOLVEMENT HAS PROMPTED [01:17:55] ACQUISITIONS FROM SOME OF TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE TECH INDUSTRY [01:17:58] THAT HUMANS FIRST IS LITTLE MORE THAN A FRONT ORGANIZATION. [01:18:01] THE INVESTOR AND FORMER WHITE HOUSE A.I. CZAR DAVID SACKS, WHO [01:18:04] YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, QUOTED AN ARTICLE ON X DETAILING THE LINKS [01:18:08] BETWEEN THE TWO THAT DESCRIBED IT AS A CENSORSHIP POWER PLAY [01:18:12] DRESSED UP IN SAFETY LANGUAGE. [01:18:14] WHAT'S YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT? [01:18:17] GUEST: IT'S JUST ABSURD ON ITS FACE. IT I MEAN, THEY ATTACK YOU WHEN [01:18:21] THEY CAN'T ARGUE THE ISSUES. [01:18:22] WE ARE A THREAT TO THEIR POWER, [01:18:25] BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALL THE MONEY. THEY'VE GOT MORE MONEY THAN GOD. [01:18:28] THEY'VE GOT LOBBYISTS CRAWLING THE CITY. [01:18:30] THEY HAVE LOBBYISTS ALL ACROSS STATE HOUSES ACROSS THIS COUNTRY [01:18:34] T. BUT THE PEOPLE ARE WITH US. AND THE PEOPLE WANT CONGRESS TO ACT. [01:18:37] THESE PEOPLE WANT NO REGULATIONS [01:18:42] WHATSOEVER. DAVID SACKS AND HIS COHORTS WANT NO REGULATIONS WHATSOEVER. [01:18:46] THAT'S WHY THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY ARE, TO TRY TO STOP US. [01:18:48] HOST: I KNOW YOU SAID THAT CONGRESS SHOULD BE ACTING, BUT [01:18:52] WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THE WHITE HOUSE IN THIS SITUATION? [01:18:55] GUEST: I THINK RIGHT NOW, THE WHITE HOUSE COULD DO AN [01:19:00] EXECUTIVE ORDER DEMANDING [01:19:05] MANDATORY PREDEPLOYMENT TESTING. [01:19:07] BACK IN MAY, THERE WAS A LETTER [01:19:09] ASKING THE PRESIDENT TO DO AN [01:19:13] EXECUTIVE ORDER REQUIRING MANDATORY PREDEPLOYMENT TESTING. I THINK THE WHITE HOUSE COULD DO [01:19:16] THAT ANYWAY, AND CONGRESS SHOULD [01:19:20] CODIFY THAT. THAT COULD BE A FIRST STEP. [01:19:23] HOST: SUE FROM NEW JERSEY SAYS [01:19:25] THAT AS WITH ANYTHING OF [01:19:28] MAGNITUDE, IT DEPENDS ON WHOSE HAND IT RESIDES IN. [01:19:32] THAT'S THE SECUREY PART. [01:19:34] I'M SURE HEY HAS SOME BENEFIT TO MANKIND AS LONG AS IT'S NOT IN THE WRONG HANDS. [01:19:38] GUEST: I AGREE. I THINK THERE ARE GOOD THINGS COMING FROM A.I. [01:19:41] I THINK THERE ARE GOOD THINGS TO COME IN THE FUTURE. BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO BE CONCERNED [01:19:45] ABOUT THE POSSIBILITIES, AND [01:19:47] THAT IS WHY WE NEED REGULATION [01:19:50] AND CONGRESS TO GOVERN ON THIS. [01:19:54] HOST: NANCY SAYS, THEY WANT TO KEEP A.I. IN CHINA UNDER TOTAL [01:19:58] CONTROL, AND THEY CERTAINLY WANT TO BE THE DOMINANT PLAYER. [01:20:00] THEY HAVE A HUGE DEBT PROBLEM, THEY CERTAINLY DO NOT WANT TO [01:20:04] GET INTO AN A.I. SPENDING BOOM THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER INFRASTRUCTURE AND FINANCIAL [01:20:08] BLACK HOLE. I MEAN, THE TOP SECURITY -- GUEST: IS SHE TALKING ABOUT [01:20:11] AMERICA OR CHINA? HOST: I THINK SHE'S TALKING ABOUT CHINA. [01:20:15] THE TOP CHINESE SPY IN CHINA DID [01:20:18] HAVE A WARNING ABOUT A.I., SAYING THAT IT THREATENS C.C.P., [01:20:23] WHICH IS THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY RULE. I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF [01:20:27] THAT? GUEST: THIS IS THE THING. [01:20:29] I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT, BUT ALL THESE FOUNDERS COMING OUT NOW [01:20:32] AND TALKING ABOUT THESE C.E.O.'S [01:20:34] AND EXECS, THE PEOPLE INSIDE THE LABS HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT [01:20:38] FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW. THIS IS NOTHING NEW. [01:20:41] IT'S JUST THE PUBLIC IS PAYING ATTENTION, AND THE NEWS IS COVERING IT. [01:20:45] WHEN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING INSIDE THESE LABS ARE CONCERNED, [01:20:48] I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WE OUGHT TO PAY ATTENTION TO. [01:20:51] THE CALL IS COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE. [01:20:54] HOST: DO YOU THINK THAT THE A.I. TECH LEADERS CALLED FOR MORE [01:20:58] REGULATION, PARTICULARLY AFTER THAT VIRAL TWEET FROM SOMEBODY [01:21:02] WHO JUST LEFT ANTHROPIC? [01:21:04] DO YOU THINK THOSE ARE GENUINE? [01:21:06] GUEST: I MEAN, WE'VE HEARD THEM [01:21:09] TALK ABOUT THINGS, TALK ABOUT [01:21:12] THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT TECHNOLOGY BEFORE. [01:21:14] THEY HAVE SAID THINGS BEFORE. HOST: TECH LEADERS? [01:21:17] GUEST: YES, THE TECH LEADERS. SO IT MAY NOT BE SOMETHING THAT [01:21:21] THEY DO, HAVE DONE EVERY DAY OVER THE PAST NUMBER OF YEARS, [01:21:24] BUT THEY HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE. [01:21:28] SO I DON'T THINK THAT -- I THINK THEY'RE PROBABLY GENUINE IN [01:21:32] THIS. I THINK THEY ARE, LOOK, EVERYBODY IS CONCERNED ABOUT IT. [01:21:35] EVERYBODY IS CONCERNED ABOUT IT. [01:21:39] IT'S A REAL PROBLEM. [01:21:42] HOST: WHAT OTHER POLICIES -- I [01:21:46] KNOW YOU SAID THE PRESIDENT [01:21:47] COULD SIGN AN EXECUTIVE [01:21:51] ORDER YANKEES COULD CODIFY IT AND THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST STEP. [01:21:54] BUT WHAT OTHER LEGISLATION ARE YOU GUYS SUPPORTING OR PUSHING [01:21:57] THAT EITHER HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED OR YOU KNOW IS BEING WRITTEN AT [01:22:01] THE MOMENT? GUEST: FIRST OF ALL, I THINK [01:22:03] THERE SHOULD BE TRANSPARENCY, 100% TRANSPARENCY. [01:22:06] WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENED, I'M A FORMER FLIGHT ATTENDANT, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH AN [01:22:10] AIRLINER, WE ARE REQUIRED TO REPORT IT TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH [01:22:14] HOSPITALS, WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES, WHEN SOMETHING [01:22:18] HAPPENS WITH OSHA, ALL THE [01:22:21] INDUSTRIES THAT OSHA REGULATES, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO REPORT IT. [01:22:25] THERE'S NO REPORTING GUIDELINES WHATSOEVER HERE. [01:22:27] THE CASES THAT I MENTIONED TO YOU ABOUT THE FLORIDA STATE [01:22:30] SHOOTING, THE ONE IN BRITISH COLUMBIA, KIDS TAKING THEIR OWN [01:22:33] LIFE, THE ONLY REASON WE KNOW THIS IS BECAUSE OF LAWSUITS FILED. [01:22:37] THESE COMPANIES CAN TAKE THIS TECHNOLOGY, THEY STAND UP HERE [01:22:41] AND SCREAM CHINA, CHINA, CHINA, [01:22:46] AND AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE STILL SELLING OUR CHIPS TOE CHINA. [01:22:49] WE'RE LOOSENS EXPORT CONTROLS. YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE DATA [01:22:53] CENTER BUILDOUT, CHINA, THE MAJORITY OF THE DATA CENTER COME [01:22:56] FROM CHINA, THE LITHIUM BATTERIES COME FROM CHINA. [01:23:00] WHAT GIVES CHINA LEVERAGE IS WHEN YOU ARE HELL-BENT ON [01:23:03] BUILDING OUT YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE SUPPLY CHAIN ORIGINAL FATES IN CHINA? [01:23:07] THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM. [01:23:10] THESE COMPANIES CAN GIVE THIS [01:23:13] TECHNOLOGY TO FOREIGN ENTITIES, FOREIGN BUSINESSES, FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS. [01:23:17] THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TOE REPORT IT TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. HOW CAN THAT BE? [01:23:21] "FINANCIAL TIMES" IN JULY DID A REPORT THAT OPENAI AND GOOGLE, I [01:23:24] BELIEVE, THOSE ARE THE TWO, ARE SELLING THEIR FRONTIER A.I. [01:23:28] MODELS TO CHINESE SUBSIDIARIES [01:23:35] IN SINGAPORE TO COMPANIES BLACKLISTED BY THE PENTAGON. HOW CAN THAT BE? [01:23:39] HOW CAN THAT BE? THEY'RE STANDING UP SAYING BUT [01:23:42] CHINA, BUT CHINA, BUT CHINA. YOU CANNOT BE AMERICA FIRST AND [01:23:46] CHINA FUNDED AT THE SAME TIME. HOST: WELL, PRESIDENT XI WILL BE AT THE WHITE HOUSE NEXT WEEK. [01:23:50] THE PRESIDENT SAID HE'S GOING TO HAVE A STATE DINNER FOR HIM. GUEST: WELL, LISTEN, I THINK [01:23:53] THAT WE NEED A TREATY, JUST LIKE [01:23:56] WHEN WE GOT NUCLEAR BOMBS, I THINK WE NEED A TREATY, AND I [01:24:00] THINK PRESIDENT TRUMP CAN LEAD AND GET THAT DONE, AND IT WOULD [01:24:03] START WITH AMERICA AND CHINA, AND THEN OTHERS COULD COME ON [01:24:07] BOARD. AND I HOME THAT THE PRESIDENT DOES THAT. [01:24:10] WE KNOW HE LOVES TO MAKE DEALS, [01:24:11] AND I HOPE THAT HE WILL TAKE THE [01:24:14] STEPS TO DO THAT, BECAUSE IT IS [01:24:18] SOMETHING THAT, LIKE THE PERSON SAID, IF IT GETS IN THE WRONG [01:24:22] HANDS, THEN WHAT DO YOU DO? HOST: MATT FROM MARYLAND, AN [01:24:25] INDEPENDENT, GOOD MORNING, MATT. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [01:24:30] THE PRESIDENT HAS SURROUNDED [01:24:34] HIMSELF WITH TECH BILLIONAIRES, [01:24:38] INCLUDING ELON MUSK, PETER THIEL [01:24:41] OWNS THE VICE PRESIDENT, AND THE PRESIDENT IS RECEIVING MONEY [01:24:44] HAND OVER FIST FROM THE SAME TECH BILLIONAIRES WHO ARE PROMOTING A.I. [01:24:48] WOULD YOU VIEW IT AS A BETRAYAL [01:24:51] IF PRESIDENT TRUMP SIDES WITH [01:24:53] HIS TECH BILLIONAIRE SUPPORTERS [01:24:56] AND THE EPSTEIN CLASS OVER YOU [01:24:59] AND YOUR ORGANIZATION AND EFFORTS TO REGULATE A.I.? [01:25:03] THANK YOU. [01:25:06] GUEST: WELL, THAT WAS INTERESTING. [01:25:08] THE EPSTEIN CLASS, I WOULD NOT -- I MEAN, I WOULD NOT [01:25:12] EQUATE THE TWO. THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER HEARD THAT. [01:25:15] LOOK, THE PRESIDENT, HE WAS [01:25:17] ELECTED BY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE [01:25:21] OVERWHELMINGLY. HE'S BEEN A GOOD PRESIDENT. I LOVE THAT HE'S CLOSE WOULD THE [01:25:24] BORDER, THE THINGS HE'S DONE FOR THIS COUNTRY, OUR NATIONAL SECURITY AND WHATNOT. [01:25:28] THIS WAS NOT EVEN AN ISSUE THAT WAS ON ANYBODY'S MIND TWO YEARS [01:25:32] AGO WHEN HE RAN. [01:25:34] AND NOW THE TECHNOLOGY IS MOVING [01:25:37] SO FAST, AND I THINK HE'S GOING TO HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE THAT [01:25:41] ELECTED HIM AS HE GETS OUT THERE ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, AND I [01:25:44] HOPE HE MODERATES HIS POSITION. I HOPE HE COMES TO OUR SIDE. [01:25:48] HOST: ALL RIGHT, HUMAN FIRST CHAIR AMY KREMER, THANK YOU SO [01:25:51] MUCH FOR BEING WITH US THIS MORNING. GUEST: THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. [01:25:54] HOST: MORE OF YOUR PHONE CALLS, TEXTS, AND SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS [01:25:57] AFTER THE BREAK IN OPEN FORUM. START CALLING IN NOW. [01:26:01] HERE ARE YOUR LINES. DEMOCRATS, 202-748-8000. [01:26:05] REPUBLICANS, 202-748-8001. [01:26:09] INDEPENDENTS, 202-748-8002. [01:26:14] THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE IS AWAITING TESTIMONY FROM [01:26:17] F.B.I. DIRECTOR KASH PATEL, IN [01:26:20] ABOUT 30 MINUTES UP ON CAPITOL HILL. [01:26:22] WE'LL TAKE YOU THERE LIVE AS [01:26:24] SOON AS IT BEGINS. [01:26:37] >> WATCH "AMERICA'S BOOK CLUB," C-SPAN'S BOLD, ORIGINAL SERIES. [01:26:41] SUNDAY, OUR GUEST IS TWO-TIME [01:26:44] PULITZER PRIZE WINNING AUTHOR [01:26:45] AND REPORTER DAVID MARANISS. [01:26:49] HE JOINS OUR HOST, DAVID [01:27:02] RUBENSTEIN. >> YOU WROTE ANOTHER BOOK ABOUT A LEDGE HEAR FOOTBALL COACH WHO [01:27:05] SPENT A YEAR IN WASHINGTON, D.C., VINCE LOMBARDI. [01:27:08] >> I'VE NEVER GOING TO WRITE A [01:27:12] BOOK AARON RODGERS, IT WAS BOMB [01:27:15] HARDEE, BECAUSE HE REPRESENTED SOMETHING LARGER. HE REPRESENTED THE MYTHOLOGY OF [01:27:19] COMPETITION AND SUCCESS IN AMERICAN LIFE. THAT'S WHY I WROTE THAT BOOK. [01:27:23] >> WATCH "AMERICA'S BOOK CLUB" SUNDAY AT 6:00 P.M. AND 9:00 [01:27:26] P.M. EASTERN AND PACIFIC, ONLY [01:27:27] ON C-SPAN. [01:27:35] >> IN A DIVIDED MEDIA WORLD, ONE PLACE BRINGS AMERICANS TOGETHER. [01:27:38] ACCORDING TO A MAGID RESEARCH REPORT, NEARLY 90 MEMBER [01:27:41] AMERICANS TURN TO C-SPAN, AND THEY'RE ALMOST PERFECTLY BALANCED. [01:27:45] 28% CONSERVATIVE, 27% LIBERAL OR [01:27:48] PROGRESSIVE, 41% MODERATE. [01:27:51] REPUBLICANS WATCHING DEMOCRATS, [01:27:53] DEMOCRATS WATCHING REPUBLICANS. [01:27:56] MODERATES WATCHING ALL. [01:27:59] BECAUSE C-SPAN VIEWERS WANT THE FACTS STRAIGHT FROM THE SOURCE, [01:28:02] NO COMMENTARY, NO AGENDA, JUST DEMOCRACY UNFILTERED EVERY DAY [01:28:06] ON THE C-SPAN NETWORKS. >> "WASHINGTON JOURNAL" CONTINUES. [01:28:10] HOST: WELCOME BACK. IT'S OPEN FORUM, WHERE YOU CAN [01:28:13] CALL IN ABOUT ANY PUBLIC POLICY [01:28:15] OR POLITICAL ISSUE ON YOUR MIND. THIS MORNING, I WILL REMIND UP [01:28:19] OF YOUR LINES. DEMOCRATS, YOUR LINE, [01:28:22] 202-748-8000. [01:28:24] REPUBLICANS, YOUR LINE, 202-748-8001. [01:28:28] INDEPENDENTS, YOUR LINE IS 202-748-8002. [01:28:32] START CALLING IN NOW, SO YOU CAN GET IN SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS, [01:28:35] QUESTIONS, AND CONCERNS ABOUT [01:28:37] OUR POLITICAL MOMENT RIGHT NOW [01:28:40] BEFORE WE HEAD AT 9:00 A.M. TO [01:28:43] F.B.I. DIRECTOR KASH PATEL'S [01:28:46] SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE HEARING ON CAPITOL HILL, WHERE [01:28:48] HE IS SET TO TESTIFY ABOUT LAW [01:28:52] ENFORCEMENT OPERATIONS AND PRIORITIES. YOU CAN WATCH THAT OVERSIGHT [01:28:55] HEARING LIVE STARTING AT 9:00 [01:28:58] A.M. EASTERN ON C-SPAN3. [01:29:01] SO STAY WITH US AFTER THIS PROGRAM SO WATCH KASH PATEL [01:29:04] TESTIFY AT THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE. [01:29:06] RIGHT NOW, IT'S OPEN FORUM. CHRISTOPHER FROM HASTINGS, MICHIGAN, A DEMOCRAT. [01:29:10] GOOD MORNING, CHRISTOPHER. [01:29:13] CALLER: HELLO. HOW ARE YOU DOING TODAY? [01:29:16] HOST: I'M DOING WELL. HOW ARE YOU? CALLER: THANK YOU. [01:29:19] I WAS JUST CALLING ABOUT THAT [01:29:22] LAST GUEST THAT YOU HAD ON FROM [01:29:24] THE TEA PARTY THAT WAS WORRIED [01:29:28] ABOUT A.I. [01:29:29] 6 I'M MUCH, MUCH MOTHER WORRIED [01:29:32] ABOUT CLIMATE WARMING THAN I AM ABOUT A.I. [01:29:36] AND ALTHOUGH I AM A DEMOCRAT, I [01:29:40] WISH THE DEMOCRATS WOULD ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THE CLIMATE [01:29:43] CRISIS AND ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT A LOT MORE. [01:29:45] THEY SEEM TO HAVE ABANDONED THAT [01:29:49] ENTIRE ISSUE. I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO THE EVIDENCE. THE EVIDENCE IS OBVIOUS. [01:29:53] IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO GET COOLER. [01:29:55] THAT'S THE PROBLEM. [01:30:02] THE LAST YEAR, IT WAS 1976, AND [01:30:04] IT'S JUST GOTTEN WARMER AND [01:30:08] WARMER SINCE. AUGUST WAS THE HOTTEST MONTH EVER, TIED WITH THE HOTTEST [01:30:11] MONTH EVER, BY FAR THE HOTTEST AUGUST EVER. [01:30:14] IT'S NOW THE MOST WATER VAPOR IN THE ATMOSPHERE. [01:30:17] THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY. [01:30:20] THANK YOU. HOST: THAT WAS CHRISTOPHER FROM MICHIGAN, A DEMOCRAT. WE TALKED ABOUT IT EARLIER, BUT [01:30:24] WE DIDN'T GET TO READ A LOT ABOUT IT, THE DECISION WRITTEN [01:30:28] HERE IN "THE WASHINGTON POST" [01:30:29] ABOUT TRUMP'S E.P.A. ENDING ONE [01:30:33] OF THE NATION'S [01:30:39] ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY ON MONDAY REPEALED BIDEN ERA [01:30:42] RULES TO LIMIT THE CARBON [01:30:45] DIOXIDE EMISSIONS FROM POWER [01:30:48] PLANTS ARGUING IT WILL SAVE CONSUMERS MONEY ON E LEK TRIGS [01:30:52] TRISTY BILLS WHILE [01:30:54] ENVIRONMENTALISTS SAY IT WILL [01:30:56] TAKE A TOLL ON PUBLIC HEALTH. [01:31:01] THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION'S EPA [01:31:04] ESTIMATING IT WOULD HAVE SAVED THOUSANDS OF LIVES. POWER PLANTS ARE THE SECOND [01:31:08] LARGEST SOURCE OF CARBON DIOXIDE EMISSIONS IN THE UNITED STATES. [01:31:11] THE LIMITS NOW REVERSE TO A [01:31:14] WEAKER 2015 STANDARD SET UNDER PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA ALTHOUGH [01:31:17] THE EPA PROPOSED AN ADDITIONAL [01:31:20] REGULATION, THAT ONE WOULD [01:31:22] ELIMINATE ALL PREVIOUS GAS HOUSE [01:31:25] GAS STANDARDS FOR POWER PLANTS. THAT'S THE LATEST ON THAT. [01:31:28] RALPH FROM TAMPA, FLORIDA, A REPUBLICAN. [01:31:31] GOOD MORNING, RALPH. [01:31:34] CALLER: REPUBLICAN PARTY. GOOD MORNING, THANKS FOR PICKING ME UP. [01:31:38] THEY HAVE LOST ME. [01:31:40] I CAN'T POSSIBLY, IN MY RIGHT [01:31:43] MIND, VOTE FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AGAIN. I JUST CAN'T DO IT. [01:31:47] THEY'VE LOST ME. THEY KEEP SAYING, YOU KNOW, THE [01:31:50] REAGAN REPUBLICANS, THIS REPUBLICAN. [01:31:54] IT'S TRUMP'S PARTY NOW. [01:31:57] I MEAN, THESE PEOPLE STAND IN [01:32:00] LOCK STEP WITH THIS MANIAC WHO'S [01:32:04] A CONVICTED CRIMINAL AND THEY'RE [01:32:10] SUPPORTING HIM AT AN EVENT THAT [01:32:12] MAKES MY STOMACH TWIST THAT HE'S [01:32:14] AN ACCUSED PEDOPHILE, CONVICTED [01:32:18] RAPIST, AND THEY'RE BACKING THIS GUY. [01:32:21] AND HE'S STILL ON THE BALLOT. [01:32:24] HE'S TELLING, AND I'M ON THE BALLOT. [01:32:28] IT'S -- IT'S BEYOND COMPREHENSION. [01:32:32] IT'S BEYOND COMPREHENSION. [01:32:35] HOST: RALPH, LET ME ASK YOU. [01:32:38] AND AGAIN, JUST FROM WHAT YOU [01:32:43] SAID, THE JURY FOUND TRUMP LIABLE FOR SEXUAL ABUSE THERE. [01:32:47] SO YOU ARE A LIFE-LONG REPUBLICAN SAYING YOU'RE NO [01:32:50] LONGER VOTING FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. [01:32:52] WHO DO YOU PLAN TO VOTE FOR COME [01:32:56] NOVEMBER? CALLER: I DON'T KNOW WHO'S RUNNING YET BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A REPUBLICAN. [01:32:59] IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A PERSON [01:33:02] WHO STANDS ASIDE TRUMP, WHO ONCE [01:33:05] STOOD BY HIM AND ALL OF A SUDDEN [01:33:06] NOT SAYING THEY'RE NOT WITH HIM [01:33:09] THEY'RE JUST NOT WITH HIM IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. [01:33:12] THEY'RE NOT OUTWARDLY COMING AND [01:33:15] SAYING LOOK WHO THIS MAN IS. [01:33:18] THEY'RE GOING TO BACK HIM. THEY'RE GOING TO BACK HIS [01:33:22] CANDIDATES, TALK POSITIVELY ABOUT HIM. [01:33:25] I CAN'T PUT HIS NAME IN MY MOUTH [01:33:28] AND NOT HAVE DIRT FALL OUT OF IT. [01:33:30] BECAUSE HE'S A FILTHY, SLIMING [01:33:33] HUMAN BEING. HOST: THAT'S RALPH FROM TAMPA, A REPUBLICAN. [01:33:37] THIS IS OPEN FORUM YOU CAN TALK ABOUT ANY PUBLIC POLICY OR [01:33:41] POLITICAL ISSUE ON YOUR MIND. [01:33:43] DEMOCRATS, I REMIND OF YOUR LINEDS. DEMOCRATS 202-748-8000 [01:33:46] REPUBLICANS 202-748-8001 [01:33:50] AND INDEPENDENTS 202-748-8002. [01:33:55] START CALLING IN NOW SO WE CAN [01:33:59] TALK ALL THE THINGS ON YOUR MIND. [01:34:01] WALTER FROM WALDORF, MARYLAND. [01:34:05] DEMOCRAT -- BEFORE WE GET TO WALTER I'LL REMIND FOLKS TO -- [01:34:09] WE ASK THAT YOU CALL IN JUST [01:34:11] ONCE EVERY 30 DAYS. [01:34:14] WALTER FROM WALDORF, MARYLAND, A [01:34:19] DEMOCRAT. GOOD MORNING. CALLER: GOOD MORNING, HOW ARE [01:34:22] YOU DOING. HOST: I'M DOING WELL HOW ABOUT [01:34:26] YOU. CALLER: DOING WELL. I LIKE THAT LAST CALLER, THAT [01:34:29] REPUBLICAN TALKING ABOUT THE SLIMY PERSON IN OFFICE. [01:34:33] BUT MY QUESTION IS TO THE DEMOCRATS, WHAT PLAN DO WE HAVE [01:34:37] TO THE HOUSE AND SENATE TO GET [01:34:41] HIM OUT OF OFFICE BEFORE HE DESTROYS THIS COUNTRY. [01:34:44] THAT'S MY BIGGEST COUNTRY. THAT'S MY QUESTION. [01:34:47] HOST: WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? [01:34:51] WHAT PLAN DO THE -- CALLER: THE DEMOCRATS HAVE TO [01:34:55] GET HIM OUT OF OFFICE. HOST: YOU HEARD FROM [01:34:58] REPRESENTATIVE AL GREEN WHO IS BRINGING UP ARTICLES OF [01:35:02] IMPEACHMENT, ALTHOUGH THE DEMOCRATS ARE NOT SUPPORTIVE OF [01:35:06] IT. CALLER: HE'S BEEN BRINGING IT [01:35:08] UP THE LAST SIX MONTHS AND ALL WE DO IS KEEP GOING UP WITH [01:35:12] FOOD, GAS AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE COUNTRY. [01:35:14] EVERYTHING IS FAKE NEWS, WHICH IT'S NOT. HOST: DO YOU THINK DEMOCRATS [01:35:18] AREN'T DOING ENOUGH TO COUNTER THE PRESIDENT? [01:35:22] CALLER: NOT AT ALL. THEN WE HAVE A BUNCH OF REPUBLICAN FOLLOWERS WHO ALLOW [01:35:26] HIM TO DO WHATEVER HE WANTS TO DO. [01:35:29] IN MY 60 YEARS OF LIVING I'VE [01:35:32] NEVER SEEN THE SUPREME COURT WORK AS HARD AS THEY'RE WORKING TODAY. [01:35:35] AND THEY WORK FOR HIM. HOST: THE SUPREME COURT DID [01:35:39] JUST REJECT HIS LATEST EFFORTS [01:35:41] ON MAIL-IN BALLOTS. [01:35:46] CALLER: OKAY. THAT'S ONE OF 20 OTHER THINGS [01:35:49] WHICH YOU'VE ACCEPTED, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. [01:35:53] HOST: THAT'S WALTER FROM WALDORF, MARYLAND, A DEMOCRAT. [01:35:57] JIM FROM FLORIDA A REPUBLICAN. GOOD MORNING, JIM. [01:36:00] CALLER: GOOD MORNING. HOW ARE YOU? [01:36:04] HOST: I'M DOING WELL, HOW ARE [01:36:09] YOU? CALLER: I GUESS I JUST REPEAT [01:36:12] THE CHANT FROM DEMOCRATS, TRUMP BAD, TRUMP BAD. [01:36:16] ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS IS BAD, BAD, BAD. [01:36:18] HAVE A GOOD DAY. HOST: THAT'S JIM FROM FLORIDA, [01:36:21] A REPUBLICAN. [01:36:24] MARY FROM ASHBURN, VIRGINIA, A [01:36:28] DEMOCRAT. GOOD MORNING, MARY. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [01:36:32] I'M CALLING REGARDING THE [01:36:34] PRESIDENT'S PROCLAMATION LAST [01:36:36] MONTH THAT WILL ALLOW DUTY FREE [01:36:40] IMPORTATION OF ABOUT 660 MILLION [01:36:43] POUNDS OF INEXPENSIVE BEEF. [01:36:46] WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S COMING FROM. [01:36:49] IF YOU BUY A T-SHIRT -- [01:36:51] HOST: I BELIEVE THE PRESIDENT [01:36:53] SAID ARGENTINA AS ONE OF THE [01:36:57] COUNTRIES LAST WEEK. CALLER: IF YOU BUY A T-SHIRT [01:37:01] FROM GAP, IT WILL HAVE A LABEL [01:37:03] THAT TELLS YOU WHERE IT WAS MADE. [01:37:06] THAT'S FEDERAL LAW. [01:37:08] IT'S TRUE FOR AUTOMOBILES, [01:37:11] APPLIANCES, TELEVISION SETS, [01:37:14] FRESH OR FROZEN FRUIT AND VEGETABLES. [01:37:17] BUT THERE'S AN EXCEPTION FOR [01:37:20] BEEF AND PORK. [01:37:23] THE CUTS OF MEAT THAT SHALL -- [01:37:27] THAT ARE GOING TO COME IN ARE [01:37:29] NOT SIRLOIN, RIB EYES AND FILLETS. [01:37:33] THEY'RE TRIMMINGS THAT WILL BE [01:37:36] ATTED TO AMERICAN CUTS TO MAKE GROUND BEEF. [01:37:39] 16 COUNTRIES ARE CURRENTLY [01:37:42] AUTHORIZED TO EXPORT THESE TO [01:37:46] THE UNITED STATES. [01:37:48] IN 2017, THE BRAZILIAN FEDERAL [01:37:53] POLICE RAIDED 200 MEAT PACKING [01:37:58] PLANTS AFTER INSPECTORS AND [01:38:01] POLITICIANS WERE PRESCRIBD [01:38:05] BRIBED TO ALLOW THE SALE OF [01:38:07] CONTAMINATED MEAT. [01:38:10] ROTTEN MEAT WAS TREATED AND SOLD [01:38:12] TO HOSPITALS, SCHOOLS, AND [01:38:14] EXPORTED IN BRAZIL. [01:38:23] THE BR BRAZILIAN COMPANY W JBS, [01:38:29] THE LARGEST IN THE WORLD, [01:38:31] ADMITTED TO BRIBING INSPECTORS. [01:38:34] PRESIDENT TRUMP AND MR. BATISTA, [01:38:38] WHOSE FAMILY CONTROLS JBS HAS [01:38:42] MET KE WHITE HOUSE AS RECENTLY AS LAST WEEK. [01:38:46] THE EUROPEAN UNION SUSPENDED [01:38:49] IMPORTS OF BEEF FROM BRAZIL. [01:38:53] HOST: MARK FROM CONNECTICUT, A REPUBLICAN. GOOD MORNING, MARK. [01:38:57] CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [01:39:02] HELLO. HOST: I CAN HEAR YOU. CALLER: I'M JUST CALLING [01:39:06] BECAUSE I'M HEARING THINGS ABOUT IMPEACHMENT, IMPEACHMENT, [01:39:09] IMPEACHMENT. THE PROBLEM I HAVE IS EVERYONE [01:39:12] IS TALKING ABOUT GAS PRICES, THE PRICE OF THIS, THAT. [01:39:15] BUT THEY'RE NOT REALIZING THE [01:39:17] PRICE INCREASE CAME FROM THE [01:39:20] PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION WITH THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, EVERYTHING. [01:39:23] AND THE COST OF HEALTH CARE CAME [01:39:26] FROM THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. [01:39:30] I'M JUST BAFFLED AND DON'T [01:39:33] UNDERSTAND HOW EVERYONE IS SO QUICK TO REMEMBER THE GARBAGE WE [01:39:36] WENT THROUGH THE LAST FOUR YEARS. IT'S INSANE. [01:39:40] THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. [01:39:42] HOST: DONNA FROM CHICAGO, A DEMOCRAT. [01:39:44] GOOD MORNING, DONNA. CALLER: DONNA, GOOD MORNING. [01:39:47] I WANT TO GIVE EVERYBODY A LITTLE BIT OF HOPE. [01:39:50] YES, WE'RE GOING THROUGH A HARD TIME AT THIS POINT. [01:39:53] BUT WE'VE BEEN THROUGH WORSE. [01:39:55] AND WE'VE OVERCOME. [01:39:58] WE HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE, [01:40:03] THIS UPCOMING ELECTION, Y'ALL, GOD IS GOING TO SHOW UP AND SHOW [01:40:08] OUT. BUT WE NEED YOUR HELP. [01:40:10] WE CAN'T DO IT ALONE. [01:40:13] WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH WORSE TIME THAN THIS Y'ALL. [01:40:16] WE GOT TO GET UP SOME THINGS -- [01:40:22] SOME BEANS AND RICE IF YOU DON'T [01:40:25] TRUST THE MEAT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WE HAVE TO SURVIVE. [01:40:28] WE HAVE TO SURVIVE. [01:40:30] WE USED TO THRIVE, BUT NOW WE'RE JUST SURVIVING. [01:40:34] AND IT'S GOING TO BE OKAY. [01:40:35] IT'S GOING TO BE OKAY, Y'ALL. [01:40:40] THANK YOU. HOST: THAT'S DONNA FROM CHICAGO, A DEMOCRAT. [01:40:44] ANDY FROM PHOENIX, A REPUBLICAN. [01:40:46] GOOD MORNING, ANDY. CALLER: GOOD MORNING, JASMINE, [01:40:50] THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL AND YOUR SCREENER FOR PUTTING ME [01:40:54] THROUGH. I WANTED TO FIRST JUST ASK YOU [01:40:58] WAS TRUMP EVER FOUND GUILTY OF [01:41:04] PEDOPHILIA, I NOTICE A LOT OF PEOPLE MAKE THAT ACCUSATION AND [01:41:07] NOT ONLY YOU DIDN'T CORRECT THAT BUT YOUR HOSTS DON'T. [01:41:10] I'M TELLING YOU TRUMP -- THAT'S [01:41:14] ALMOST LIABLE NOT ALLOWING PEOPLE TO PUSH THAT ON YOUR NETWORK. [01:41:18] WAS HE EVER FOUND -- HOST: I ACTUALLY DID CORRECT [01:41:22] HIM, I READ AN AP HEADLINE HERE [01:41:26] AND THAT IS JURY FINDS TRUMP [01:41:30] LIABLE. YOUR QUESTION WAS ABOUT PEDOPHILIA, WHICH IS NOT LISTED [01:41:33] IN THIS ARTICLE. [01:41:35] SO HE WAS FOUND LIABLE BY A JURY [01:41:38] FOR SEXUAL ABUSE AND I DID [01:41:40] CORRECT THAT CALLER. [01:41:42] CALLER: THAT'S E. JEAN CAROL. [01:41:46] HOST: YES. CALLER: HE WAS NOT NEVER FOUND [01:41:49] GUILTY OF PEDOPHILIA, THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO MAKE CLEAR. [01:41:52] AS FAR AS BEEF PRICES, THEY'VE [01:41:54] BEEN HIGH FOR QUITE A WHILE AND [01:41:58] THEY ARE GETTING HIGHER. [01:41:59] ONE THING I READ AN ABOUT A YEAR [01:42:02] AGO, WE HAVE A 75 YEAR LOW ON [01:42:04] CATTLE IN THIS COUNTRY YET OUR [01:42:07] POPULATION IS PROBABLY DOUBLE [01:42:11] SINCE 1975 -- OR 75 YEARS AGO. [01:42:13] I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY OUR BEEF [01:42:15] SUPPLY IS SO LOW BUT THAT IS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS. [01:42:19] AS FAR AS A.I. GOES, WE'VE HEARD [01:42:21] THE DANGERS OF TECHNOLOGY, BUT [01:42:24] ARE WE GOING TO LET CHINA BE THE LEADER IN A.I.? [01:42:28] I JUST -- I THINK IT'S ONE OF [01:42:30] THOSE THINGS WE CAN'T FALL [01:42:32] BEHIND THE EIGHT-BALL ON THIS. [01:42:35] OTHERWISE, OTHER COUNTRIES WILL JUST SURPASS US ON THAT. [01:42:39] BUT AGAIN, JUST PLEASE CORRECT [01:42:42] PEOPLE, THEY CAN TALK ABOUT E [01:42:45] JEAN CAROL AL THEY WANT. BUT HE HAS NEVER BEEN FOUND [01:42:48] GUILTY OF PEDOPHILIA. [01:42:50] HE COULD SUE YOU FOR ALLOWING TO [01:42:53] PUSH THAT PROPAGANDA. HOST: IF I COULD ASK ON THE [01:42:57] A.I. QUESTION. DO YOU THINK THE U.S. IS [01:42:59] BALANCING THE NEED FOR -- THE [01:43:01] NEED FOR INNOVATION WITH SOME OF THESE CONCERNS ABOUT A.I. [01:43:05] REGULATION OR THE LACK THEREOF? [01:43:12] CALLER: A NEED FOR RENOVATION WITH A.I.? [01:43:14] HOST: THE NEED FOR INNOVATION? [01:43:16] CALLER: OF COURSE WE NEED TO [01:43:19] NOT ONLY OVER SEE A.I. AND NOT [01:43:23] LET THEM JUST GO CRAZY, BUT WE [01:43:26] NEED TO BE INNOVATORS IN ALL TECHNOLOGY. [01:43:29] WE NEED TO BE THE LEADERS IN THAT INNOVATION. [01:43:32] IF WE JUST START USING THIS PANIC STUFF, WHICH MAYBE CHINA [01:43:36] IS PUSHING A PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN [01:43:38] SO THEY CAN SLOW US DOWN IN OUR [01:43:43] INNOVATION, RUSSIA, YOU KNOW, TO [01:43:48] PUT US BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL THAT WOULDN'T BE GOOD FOR THE [01:43:52] UNITED STATES. WE CAN'T PROCEED FORWARD WITH [01:43:55] TECHNOLOGY WOULD BE BAD FOR THE UNITED STATES. [01:43:57] SO OVERSIGHT, SURE. [01:44:00] BUT YEAH, NOT, WE NEED TO [01:44:02] INNOVATE AND WE NEED TO BE THE LEADERS IN TECHNOLOGY. [01:44:06] HOST: THAT'S ANDY FROM PHOENIX, [01:44:09] A REPUBLICAN. TOM FROM NASHVILLE, AN [01:44:12] INDEPENDENT. GOOD MORNING, TOM. CALLER: THANKS FOR TAKING MY CALL. [01:44:16] I WANT TO DEFEND TRUMP A LITTLE BIT. HE PUT TAX THINGS IN THAT HELPED [01:44:20] OLD PEOPLE LIKE ME, I'M ALMOST [01:44:22] 80 YEARS OLD, I STILL WORK FOR A [01:44:25] LIVING AND PAY FOR INCOME TAXES [01:44:28] HE HELPED ME -- HOST: IN THE ONE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL. [01:44:31] CALLER: I THINK WE GOT 6,500 OR [01:44:35] SOME TYPE OF CREDIT ON OUR INCOME TAX IN 2025, WHICH SAVED [01:44:38] YOU A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY. SOMETIMES I WONDER IF Y'ALL [01:44:41] DON'T -- I ASKED PEDRO THIS [01:44:45] BEFORE, ASK PEOPLE HOW MUCH BEFORE THEY START BEATING UP ON [01:44:49] EVERYBODY AND GRIPING ABOUT [01:44:52] AMERICA, HOW MUCH THEY HAVE PAID [01:44:54] IN THE PAST YEAR IN FEDERAL INCOME TAXES. [01:44:57] I GET ABOUT HALF MY SOCIAL [01:44:59] SECURITY TAXES BACK TO THE GOVERNMENT. I STILL WORK AND PAY TAXES, SO I [01:45:03] HAVE TO PAY INCOME TAXES BUT [01:45:05] THESE FOLKS CALL IN WITH WILD IDEAS. [01:45:09] I HAVE TO GET OFF THE PHONE BECAUSE I GOT TO GO TO WORK. [01:45:11] I'M TELLING YOU, THEY -- THEY I [01:45:19] WONDER HOW MUCH THEY HAVE VEST IN THE COUNTRY. [01:45:22] AN 80-YEAR-OLD MAN LIKE ME STILL PAYING INTO THE SYSTEM AND TRUMP [01:45:26] DID OKAY IN 2025, 2026, I THINK IT RUNS TO 28. [01:45:30] THAT HELPS A LITTLE BIT IF YOU PAY HEAVY INCOME TAXES. [01:45:33] YOU FOLLOW WHAT I'M SAYING? THANK YOU FOR THE CALL. HOST: THAT'S TOM FROM [01:45:37] NASHVILLE. IN JUST 15 MINUTES WE'LL BE LIVE [01:45:40] ON CSPAN WITH KASH PATEL AT 9:00 A.M. WHEN HE TESTIFIES IN FRONT [01:45:44] OF THE SENATE JUDICIARY [01:45:47] COMMITTEE THERE. THERE'S A LIVE PICTURE WAITING [01:45:50] FOR THE FBI DIRECTOR TO ARRIVE. [01:45:53] AT 10:00 A.M. WE'LL FOLLOW THE [01:46:08] DATA CENTER HEARINGS. AND ALSO ATTORNEY GENERAL TODD BLANCHE IS EXPECTED TO HOLD A PRESS BRIEFING IN THE ROSE [01:46:11] GARDEN ON TUESDAY. [01:46:12] THIS IS A SERIES OF CABINET [01:46:16] OFFICIALS HOLDING PRESS BRIEFINGS SINCE THE DEPARTURE OF CAROLINE LEVITT. [01:46:21] THERE'S A HEADLINE FROM THE [01:46:23] HILL, THAT IS EXPECTED TO HAPPEN LATER TODAY AND WE WILL BE LIVE [01:46:27] ON CSPAN NETWORKS SHOWING THAT BRIEFING. [01:46:30] SONIA FROM SILVER SPRING, MARYLAND, A DEMOCRAT. [01:46:33] GOOD MORNING, SONIA. [01:46:40] CALLER: CAN YOU HEAR ME? HOST: SORRY THAT WAS MY FAULT. [01:46:43] I DIDN'T PRESS IT. HOW IS IT GOING? [01:46:46] CALLER: I'VE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO THE MEETING THAT [01:46:49] JUST CONCLUDED AND WHAT THEY'RE [01:46:51] TRYING TO DO, ALL THESE WORLD -- [01:46:56] HOST: THAT'S CHINA, INDIA -- [01:46:59] CALLER: BRAZIL, RUSSIA, INDIA, SOUTH AFRICA. [01:47:03] SO THEY JUST CONCLUDED THEIR [01:47:07] MEETING AND WITH THIS [01:47:09] ADMINISTRATION AND THE TARIFFS [01:47:11] AND JUST HIS POLICIES, IT JUST [01:47:14] HAS ACCELERATED THESE COUNTRIES [01:47:19] AND OTHER COUNTRIES, EUROPEAN [01:47:20] COUNTRIES, CANADA, FROM -- [01:47:25] DEPENDING ON THE DOLLAR FOR [01:47:27] TRADE AND FOR JUST TRANSACTIONS IN GENERAL. [01:47:29] AND IT'S GOING TO WEAKEN THE DOLLAR WHILE WE'RE 40 TRILLION [01:47:33] DOLLAR IN DEBT. I DON'T THINK ANYONE WAS REALLY [01:47:36] PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS. IT'S NOT REALLY TALKED ABOUT BUT [01:47:39] IT'S GOING TO AFFECT US. [01:47:41] IT'S GOING TO AFFECT US IN THE [01:47:43] NEXT -- NEXT FIVE YEARS OR LESS. AND WE'RE GOING TO BE IN SERIOUS [01:47:47] TROUBLE. AND I WISH THERE WAS MORE COVERAGE ON IT. [01:47:51] HOST: LOOKING AT A BBC ARTICLE [01:47:53] HERE, THE HEADLINE IS IRAN WAR [01:47:57] RESHAPES BRIX TIES BUT ALSO EXPOSES DIVISIONS. [01:48:01] IT SAYS THIS WEEKEND SOME OF THE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE IN THE [01:48:04] WORLD GATHER AROUND A TABLE, THE [01:48:08] INDIAN PRIME MINISTER ANNOUNCED THAT TOGETHER THE LEASHEDS NEXT [01:48:11] TO HIM SHOULD BECOME RULE SHAPERS NOT RULE TAKERS. [01:48:14] AMONG THOSE LISTENING WERE [01:48:16] MEMBERS OF THE BRICS GROUP, [01:48:19] INCLUDING CHINA'S PRESIDENT, [01:48:22] RUSSIA'S PRESIDENT, IRAN'S [01:48:27] PRESIDENT, ABU DHABI'S CROWN [01:48:31] PRINCE, AND SOUTH AFRICA'S PRESIDENT. [01:48:35] THESE ARE HARDLY NATURAL ALLIES, [01:48:38] THEY HAVE HISTORIES OF BORDER DISPUTES AND MILITARY [01:48:42] CONFRONTATIONS, INDIA AND CHINA [01:48:43] ENGAGED IN A DEADLY CLASH IN [01:48:46] 2020, IRAN AND UAE HAVE BEEN ON [01:48:49] OPPOSING SIDES OF THE WAR IN THE [01:48:51] MIDDLE EAST, WITH. [01:48:57] SO THERE'S AN ARTICLE ON THAT LATEST BRICS MEETING THAT SONIA [01:49:01] WAS DESCRIBING. MARY FROM BALTIMORE, A REPUBLICAN. [01:49:04] GOOD MORNING, MARY. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [01:49:08] I'M JUST SO UPSET WITH THE FACT [01:49:10] THAT TRUMP PROBABLY WILL GO TO [01:49:14] THE IRAN BECAUSE OF NETANYAHU, [01:49:19] MY SON WAS IN THE VIETNAM WAR AND HE NEVER RECOVERED. [01:49:22] HE CAME HOME PHYSICALLY OKAY BUT [01:49:24] HE WAS MENTALLY MESSED UP. [01:49:27] AND WE WOULD GO TO THE VA FOR [01:49:29] APPOINTMENTS AND THEY WOULD GIVE [01:49:32] HIM ONE APPOINTMENT IN JUNE AND [01:49:34] ANOTHER ONE IN LIKE DECEMBER. [01:49:38] HE NEVER GOT WELL AND HE ENDED [01:49:42] UP STONED OUT ON DRUGS. [01:49:46] HAVING ANOTHER WAR WITH IRAN AND [01:49:47] THE GUYS DYING AND COMING BACK [01:49:50] MESSED UP AND NOT GETTING THE HELP THEY NEED JUST SICKENS ME [01:49:54] AND I THINK TRUMP NEEDS TO GET A [01:49:57] BACKBONE AND SAY NO TO [01:50:02] NETANYAHU. WE DON'T NEED A WAR IN IRAN. I VOTED FOR HIM. [01:50:05] I WON'T VOTE AGAIN. HOST: JIM FROM PENNSYLVANIA, AN [01:50:09] INDEPENDENT. [01:50:10] CALLER: GOOD MORNING. [01:50:17] WE HEARD EARLIER ABOUT AL GREEN [01:50:19] WANTING TO IMPEACH PRESIDENT TRUMP. THAT'S A DIVERSION. [01:50:23] WE'RE IN THE SIXTH OF A BIPARTISAN COUP. [01:50:27] AND BACK IN 2024, THE SUPREME [01:50:32] COURT SAID THAT TRUMP COMMITTED INSURRECTION. [01:50:35] NOW, UNDER THE 14TH AMENDMENT, [01:50:39] THIRD PROVISION, IF YOU COMMIT [01:50:42] INSURRECTION, YOU HAVE TO GET TWO THIRDS OF CONGRESS TO HOLD [01:50:45] FEDERAL OFFICE. BACK THEN, THE SUPREME COURT [01:50:48] OVERRULED THAT, SET ASIDE THE 14TH AMENDMENT, THEREBY AIDING [01:50:51] AND ABETTING INSURRECTION. [01:50:54] WE COULD GET RID OF THE SUPREME COURT AND PRESIDENT TRUMP UNDER [01:50:57] THE 14TH AMENDMENT'S THIRD PROVISION. [01:51:01] THANK YOU. HOST: THAT WAS JIM FROM PENNSYLVANIA, AN INDEPENDENT. [01:51:04] WHAT YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN HERE IS THE SENATE JUDICIARY HEARING [01:51:07] MEETING -- EXCUSE ME, HEARING [01:51:09] ROOM FILLING UP AS THEY AWAIT [01:51:13] FBI DIRECTOR KASH PATEL AT 9:00 A.M., YOU CAN WATCH IT LIVE HERE [01:51:17] ON CSPAN 3 BUT THAT IS WHAT YOU SEE THE PHOTOGRAPHERS WAITING [01:51:20] FOR MR. PATEL TO WALK IN AS WELL [01:51:24] AS SOME OF THE SENATE [01:51:27] LEADERSHIP, INCLUDING CHUCK [01:51:30] GRASSLEY WHO CHAIRS THIS COMMITTEE. [01:51:34] COBERT FROM GEORGIA, A DEMOCRAT. GOOD MORNING. CALLER: YES, MA'AM. [01:51:37] I HAVE ONE QUESTION. [01:51:39] IF THE DEMOCRATS WIN ALL THE [01:51:43] SEATS, WILL TRUMP SWEAR THEM IN? [01:51:48] HOST: IT WOULD BE HOUSE SPEAKER [01:51:52] MIKE JOHNSON THAT WOULD BE IN CHARGE OF THAT. [01:51:55] BUT THAT, OF COURSE, IS THE LAW [01:51:57] IF YOU WIN, YOU WIN YOUR RACE, [01:52:00] THEN YOU BECOME SWORN IN. [01:52:03] CALLER: I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. [01:52:07] HE'LL FIND A WAY AROUND THAT. I JUST HAD THAT QUESTION. [01:52:11] THANK YOU, SWEET HEART. [01:52:16] HOST: RUSSELL FROM GEORGIA, A REPUBLICAN. [01:52:20] GOOD MORNING, RUSSELL. [01:52:22] CALLER: MORNING. I HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT THE [01:52:26] $5,000 CHECK THAT EVERYONE IS [01:52:28] GOING TO GET IF THE HOUSE GOES [01:52:32] REPUBLICAN. [01:52:33] I'M TOTALLY BELIEVE IT BECAUSE [01:52:40] HERBERT SAID A CHICKEN FOR EVERY POT SO I BELIEVE IT. [01:52:43] HOST: YOU BELIEVE THE CHECK WILL COME? [01:52:45] CALLER: YES, I DO, BECAUSE [01:52:48] HOOVER SAID A CHICKEN FOR EVERY POT. [01:52:50] CHECK IT OUT, MA'AM. GO RESEARCH IT. [01:52:54] YOU'LL SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [01:52:58] HOST: ALL RIGHT. THAT'S RUSSELL FROM GEORGIA, A [01:53:01] REPUBLICAN. CURTIS FROM CALIFORNIA, AN INDEPENDENT. [01:53:04] GOOD MORNING, CURTIS. [01:53:07] CALLER: I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW [01:53:09] WHY WE HAVE A GERIATRIC [01:53:18] PRESIDENT, THAT'S IT. HOST: WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? [01:53:21] CALLER: HE'S A BABY. HE'S A BIG BABY. [01:53:24] IF HE DOESN'T GET HIS WAY, HE [01:53:27] COMES DOWN ON ALL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. [01:53:30] HOST: WHAT DID YOU THINK OF SENATOR MITCH McCONNELL [01:53:32] RETURNING TO THE SENATE [01:53:35] YESTERDAY AFTER HIS THREE MONTHS ABSENCE AFTER HE SUFFERED A [01:53:39] FALL? CALLER: WELL, I THINK HE NEEDS [01:53:42] TO RETIRE. [01:53:43] HE'S OLD, HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT [01:53:47] AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE TALKING [01:53:50] ABOUT ANYMORE. [01:53:52] HE'S PAST HIS PRIME, YOU KNOW. [01:53:58] I'M 65 AND I'M HURTING, YOU [01:54:03] KNOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO LIVE ANYMORE. [01:54:06] I MEAN, I CAN'T AFFORD NOTHING. [01:54:10] I'M ON SOCIAL SECURITY. [01:54:13] CAN'T AFFORD ANYTHING ANYMORE. [01:54:16] HOST: DO YOU THINK THERE SHOULD [01:54:18] BE AN AGE LIMIT TO BE A MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, THE PRESIDENT? [01:54:22] CALLER: YEAH. HOST: SUPREME COURT? [01:54:25] CALLER: YEAH. [01:54:26] I THINK ABOUT 70, 75, I THINK [01:54:29] THAT SHOULD BE IT. YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK -- I'M [01:54:33] NOT SAYING EVERYBODY'S, YOU [01:54:37] KNOW, DUMB AT 80 OR -- BECAUSE [01:54:41] THERE'S A LOT OF SMART PEOPLE [01:54:43] OUT THERE THAT ARE OLDER THAN ME. [01:54:47] BUT THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT MAKING [01:54:50] SMART DECISIONS FOR OUR COUNTRY. [01:54:53] NOT AT ALL. [01:54:57] HOST: THAT'S CURTIS FROM [01:55:00] CALIFORNIA, INDEPENDENT. [01:55:02] CHRIS FROM PIKESVILLE, MARYLAND, [01:55:05] AN INDEPENDENT. GOOD MORNING, CHRIS. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. HOW ARE YOU DOING? [01:55:08] HOST: DOING WELL. HOW ABOUT YOU? [01:55:10] CALLER: I LIKE HOW YOU HANDLE YOURSELF BEING UNDER PRESSURE. [01:55:14] ALL THOSE PEOPLE SAYING WHERE YOU FROM. [01:55:17] I LIKE HOW Y'ALL HANDLE YOURSELF [01:55:19] WHEN HE TALKED TO YOU LIKE THAT. [01:55:21] I WANTED TO SAY THAT FIRST. BUT I ALSO WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT [01:55:24] DON JUNIOR, HOW HIS WEDDING WAS [01:55:30] PART OF IT WAS PURCHASED BY AN [01:55:33] OLIGARCH FROM RUSSIA. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY SPOKE [01:55:37] ABOUT THAT YET. AND ALSO, THIS IS ONE OF THE [01:55:41] BIGGEST SMOKE SCREENS FOR THE [01:55:44] EPSTEIN FILE. ALL THIS COMMOTION THAT DONALD [01:55:48] TRUMP IS DOING FROM THE BALLROOM [01:55:50] TO THE REFLECTING POOL, TO THIS WAR IN IRAN. [01:55:54] ALL THIS DEFLECTS FROM THE EPSTEIN FILES. [01:55:58] I WANT YOU TO HAVE A WONDERFUL AND STRESS FREE DAY. [01:56:01] HOST: CHRIS FROM PIKESVILLE, MAD. [01:56:04] I CAN'T PROMISE STRESS FREE BUT I SHALL TRY. [01:56:08] JUST THE STORY HE WAS [01:56:10] REFERENCING WAS FROM PRO PUBLICA [01:56:15] YESTERDAY MORNING. [01:56:17] DONALD TRUMP JURY'S BAHAMAS [01:56:20] WEDDING WAS SECRETLY BANKROLLED [01:56:22] BY RUSSIAN OLIGARCH. [01:56:24] IT SAYS MAY 21ST, DONALD TRUMP [01:56:29] JR. WAS CELEBRATING IN THE BAH [01:56:36] MAS. [01:56:37] A FIVE-TIER CAKE HAD BEEN AIR [01:56:41] LIFTED IN FROM FLORIDA, GUEST [01:56:43] SETTLED INTO THEIR OCEAN FRONTVILLE LAS. [01:56:46] THAT'S NIGHT, DONALD TRUMP JR. [01:56:50] LIFTED HIS WIFE INTO THE AIR, IT WAS EVERYTHING WE DREAMED OF AND [01:56:53] MORE HIS WIFE SAID. [01:56:55] THAT WAS HEAVILY FUNDED BY A [01:56:59] SECRET BENEFACTOR, AN OLIGARCH [01:57:02] CLOSE TO VLADIMIR PUTIN. THERE IS THAT STORY. [01:57:05] IT'S MADE ITS WAVES. [01:57:08] YOU CAN SEE THE RUSSIAN OLIGARCH [01:57:10] ON THE BACK OF YOUR SCREEN RIGHT [01:57:12] NOW IN THE PHOTO, IT WAS [01:57:15] YESTERDAY IF YOU WANT TO READ MORE. [01:57:19] M FROM DAYTON, OHIO A DEMOCRAT. [01:57:22] CALLER: EVERYTHING I CALLED IN TO SAY, THE GENTLEMAN THAT JUST CALLED BEFORE ME SAID IT ALL. [01:57:26] THAT WAS WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, BECAUSE NOBODY HAD BEEN [01:57:30] TALKING ABOUT IT. HOST: ABOUT THE DON JUNIOR STORY? [01:57:34] CALLER: YES. HOST: OKAY. CALLER: AND THE EPSTEIN FILES [01:57:38] AND ALL THE COVERING UP FOR EVERYTHING THAT HE'S DOING TO [01:57:41] KEEP AWAY FROM THAT. [01:57:44] IF PEOPLE WOULD REALLY PAY ATTENTION THEY WOULD SEE WHERE [01:57:48] THE PRESIDENT AND THE -- I MEAN, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS LEADING [01:57:52] US, AND IT'S NOT GOOD. [01:57:55] THANK YOU AND YOU HAVE A VERY GOOD DAY. [01:57:58] HOST: THAT'S M FROM DAYTON, OHIO, A DEMOCRAT. [01:58:01] ON YOUR SCREEN YOU ARE SEEING [01:58:03] THE HEARING ROOM FOR THE SENATE [01:58:06] JUDICIARY COMMITTEE FILL UP AHEAD OF THE FBI DIRECTOR, KASH [01:58:09] PATEL WHO IS SET TO TESTIFY THERE ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT OPERATIONS AND PRIORITIES. [01:58:13] WE'LL BRING THAT OVERSIGHT [01:58:15] HEARING TO YOU LIVE STARTING AT [01:58:17] 9:00 A.M. EASTERN ON CSPAN 3. [01:58:19] ANOTHER PROGRAMMING NOTE, THIS AFTERNOON, SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE, [01:58:23] KEVIN MCCARTHY, WILL HAVE HIS [01:58:25] OFFICIAL PORTRAIT UNVEILED IN THE CAPITOL BUILDING WITH [01:58:29] REMARKS BY CURRENT SPEAKER MIKE [01:58:33] JOHNSON, FORM EVERY DEMOCRAT LEADER STENY HOYER AND OTHERS ON [01:58:38] THE TEN YEAR OF THE 55TH SPEAKER OF THE U.S. HOUSE. [01:58:40] WATCH THE UNVEILING LIVE AT 3:00 [01:58:43] P.M. EASTERN ON CSPAN 3 AND ALSO [01:58:47] TOMORROW, JUST THE LAST PROGRAMMING NOTE HERE, TOMORROW [01:58:51] WE WILL HAVE, ON WEDNESDAY, [01:58:54] FEDERAL RESERVE CHAIR, KEVIN [01:58:57] WARSH WILL HOLD A PRESS CONFERENCE FOLLOWING THE FED'S [01:59:01] DECISION ON WHETHER TO RAISE [01:59:04] RATES THAT COMES AFTER THE [01:59:06] CONSUMER PRICE INDEX ROSE IN [01:59:09] AUGUST AND -- EXCUSE ME, ROSE IN [01:59:12] AUGUST A HIGHER RATE THAN EXPECTED. [01:59:15] WATCH LIVE FROM D.C. AT 2:30 [01:59:17] EASTERN ON CSPAN 3. [01:59:21] THAT WILL BE TOMORROW, WEDNESDAY [01:59:23] AT 2:30, THE KEVIN WARSH. [01:59:27] SO FBI DIRECTOR KASH PATEL IS ENTERING THE HEARING [01:59:31] MOMENTARILY. YOU CAN SEE THAT ON YOUR SCREEN [01:59:33] RIGHT NOW BEFORE HE TESTIFIES [01:59:36] BEFORE THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE. [01:59:38] AND THAT IS STARTING RIGHT NOW. [01:59:40] SO GO AHEAD AND LISTEN.