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[00:00:36] >> DEMOCRATIC NEW JERSEY SENATOR CORY BOOKER AND REPUBLICAN [00:00:39] LOUISIANA SENATOR JOHN KENNEDY ANNOUNCED THE LAUNCH OF THE [00:00:41] SENATE CREATOR CAUCUS AHEAD OF A PANEL WITH INFLUENCERS AND [00:00:45] CREATORS ACROSS MANY AND -- INDUSTRIES. THE PANEL DISCUSSED THE [00:00:49] DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JOURNALISTS [00:00:52] VERSUS CREATORS AND HOW CONTENT CREATORS HAVE SHAPED TO INDUSTRY. [00:00:55] THEY REVIEWED TAXATION OF [00:00:57] CREATORS AND MICRO INFLUENCERS, [00:01:00] PRIVACY CONCERNS AND [00:01:03] INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY ISSUES. THIS IS JUST OVER ONE HOUR. [00:01:07] >> GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. I AM LESLIE MILLER AND I LEAD [00:01:11] PUBLIC POLICY FOR YOUTUBE. [00:01:15] ON BEHALF OF OUR TEAM AND THE INCREDIBLE CREATORS THAT TRAVELED FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY [00:01:18] TO BE HERE TODAY, THANK YOU ALL [00:01:22] FOR JOINING US FOR THIS HISTORIC MILESTONE. [00:01:25] WE ARE HERE TO CELEBRATE THE [00:01:26] OFFICIAL LAUNCH OF THE BIPARTISAN SENATE CREATOR [00:01:32] CAUCUS, RECOGNIZING DIGITAL [00:01:35] CONTENT CREATORS ARE NOT ONLY ONLINE STORYTELLERS, BUT ALSO, [00:01:38] INDEPENDENT ENTREPRENEURS, JOB [00:01:42] CREATORS, EMPLOYERS, AND ECONOMIC ENGINES DRIVING LOCAL [00:01:46] COMMUNITIES ACROSS OUR NATION. [00:01:50] YOUTUBE'S CREATED INC. -- CREATIVE ECOSYSTEM CONTRIBUTED [00:01:54] OVER $60 BILLION INTO THE U.S. [00:01:57] GDP IN 2020 FIVE ALONE. [00:02:01] AND IT SUPPORTED MORE THAN 540,000 JOBS. [00:02:06] BUILDING MOMENTUM FOR CREATORS [00:02:08] IN WASHINGTON HAS BEEN A TRUE BIPARTISAN, BICAMERAL EFFORT. [00:02:12] PAVING THE WAY WERE OUR [00:02:18] CO-SOUNDING CAUCUS COCHAIRS. REPRESENTATIVE YVETTE CLARK. [00:02:24] AND REPRESENTATIVE BETH VAN DYNE. I DON'T KNOW IF CONGRESSMAN VAN DYNE -- CONGRESSWOMAN VAN DYNE [00:02:28] HAS MADE IT. THE BIPARTISAN COMMITMENT [00:02:32] EXPANDS TO THE U.S. SENATE. WE ARE GRATEFUL TO SENATOR CORY [00:02:37] BOOKER AND SENATOR JOHN KENNEDY AND THEIR DEDICATED STAFF. [00:02:41] THEIR VISION AND LEADERSHIP IN [00:02:42] CREATING THE CAUCUS ENSURES [00:02:47] AMERICA'S INDEPENDENT, DIGITAL ENTREPRENEURS HAVE A PERMANENT, [00:02:50] DEDICATED VOICE IN SENATE POLICY DISCUSSIONS. [00:02:55] FOLLOWING OPEN REMARKS FROM OUR [00:02:57] SENATE COCHAIRS, WE WILL [00:03:00] IMMEDIATELY TRANSITION INTO OUR FEATURED PANEL DISCUSSION [00:03:02] MEDIATED BY -- MODERATED BY DYLAN WELLS OF THE WASHINGTON [00:03:06] POST WHERE YOU WILL HEAR FIRSTHAND FROM A WIDE-RANGING [00:03:10] GROUP OF CREATORS ABOUT WHAT IT REALLY TAKES TO SCALE A DIGITAL [00:03:16] ENTERPRISE, MANAGEMENT TEAMS, NONDIRECT -- NAVIGATE THE UNIQUE [00:03:18] HEADWINDS FACING MODERN INDEPENDENT BUSINESSES. [00:03:24] PLEASE, JOIN ME NOW IN GIVING A WARM WELCOME TO OUR SENATE [00:03:29] CREATOR CAUCUS COCHAIRS, SENATOR [00:03:33] BOOKER AND SENATOR KENNEDY. THANK YOU. [00:03:40] SEN. BOKER: THIS IS AN EXCITING [00:03:47] MOMENT AND TURN OUT AND I WANT TO GIVE A LOT OF GRATITUDE TO [00:03:51] THE GENTLEMAN TO MY LEFT, WITH SOME PUN INTENDED. [00:03:56] WE ARE DIFFERENT PARTIES AND THERE IS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE TRIBALISM OF OUR COUNTRY. [00:03:59] BUT WE HAVE FOUND WAYS TO DO [00:04:04] MEANINGFUL WORK TOGETHER. NOTHING OVERSHADOWS WHAT WE ARE [00:04:05] A PART OF HERE, CREATING THIS CAUCUS. WITH ALL OF YOU. [00:04:10] WE ALL KNOW THE TRUTH. THE WORLD IS CHANGING. [00:04:16] THERE IS A REVOLUTION GOING ON [00:04:18] WHEN IT COMES TO USING ONLINE [00:04:22] PLATFORMS. FOR SUCH A VARIETY OF POSSIBILITIES. [00:04:25] MANY PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THIS IS HEADED. [00:04:28] BUT THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM ARE [00:04:33] HELPING LEAD THE WAY. RIGHT NOW IN THE UNITED STATES [00:04:35] OF AMERICA, THE TIME MANY PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE CHALLENGES [00:04:39] WITHIN OUR ECONOMY, YOU ARE PART OF CREATING AN ENTIRELY NEW ECONOMIC SECTOR. [00:04:45] IT IS USING PLATFORMS IN THE MOST INGENIOUS WAYS. [00:04:48] I KNOW IN MY PERSONAL LIFE I HAVE DEVELOPED -- DONE [00:04:50] EVERYTHING FROM PICK UP BOOKS I [00:04:53] WOULD NOT HAVE PICKED UP. [00:04:56] IF IT WAS NOT FOR THE PEOPLE I FOLLOW ONLINE. [00:04:59] I HAVE BUILT -- BOUGHT PRODUCTS. [00:05:03] I HAVE COME AS A U.S. SENATOR, AND I KNOW MY STAFF MEMBERS CAN [00:05:06] TESTIFY TO THIS, TAKEN CONTENT I [00:05:10] SAW ONLINE AND SENT IT TO MY POLICY TEAM TO SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, I WAS NOT AWARE OF THIS. [00:05:15] WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS. [00:05:18] THIS IS AN EXTRAORDINARY GROUP OF PEOPLE CRISSCROSSING THE [00:05:20] COUNTRY EXPANDING POSSIBILITY, [00:05:24] EXPANDING AWARENESS, EXPANDING JOBS, EXPANDING ECONOMIC [00:05:27] ACTIVITY, EXPANDING ART AND EXPRESSION AND SO MUCH MORE. [00:05:32] HERE IS THE URGENCY I SHARE WITH MY FRIEND, THE URGENCY I SEE. [00:05:38] THERE ARE SWARMS OF PEOPLE THAT COME TO WASHINGTON FROM EVERY [00:05:42] SECTOR OF MARGINABLE TO LOBBY US [00:05:46] TO GET US TO SUPPORT [00:05:48] LEGISLATION, WRITE LEGISLATION, FIGHT AGAINST LEGISLATION, WHO [00:05:51] ADVOCATE TO US, WHO COME TO CREATE AWARENESS FOR US. [00:05:56] SOME -- SO MANY PEOPLE COME DOWN, AND MANY OF THOSE [00:05:59] INDUSTRIES OR INDIVIDUALS ARE [00:06:02] PART OF ORGANIZED GROUPS THAT ARE ABLE TO LOBBY AND ADVOCATE FOR THEIR SECTOR. [00:06:08] IT'S INCREDIBLE TO ME THAT THIS SECTOR, THE CREATOR ECONOMY, BY [00:06:11] THE END OF THE DECADE, COULD BE [00:06:14] PART OF $1 TRILLION OF ECONOMIC [00:06:16] ACTIVITY AND IT DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR THE INNUMERABLE, [00:06:20] IMMEASURABLE IMPACT YOU ARE HAVING ON CULTURE, BUSINESS, AND SO MANY SECTORS. [00:06:25] YET, WE DON'T HAVE A DEDICATED [00:06:29] CAUCUS IN THE U.S. SENATE FOCUSED ON LISTENING AND HEARING [00:06:33] AND WORKING TO COBBLE TOGETHER A [00:06:35] COMMON AGENDA THAT CAN EMPOWER [00:06:38] ALL OF YOU IN YOUR DRIVE IN YOUR [00:06:41] PURPOSE, IN HOW YOU ARE TRYING TO SERVE AND HELP OUR LARGER SOCIETY. [00:06:45] SO WE ARE EXCITED AND HOPEFUL. [00:06:49] AS A PERSON THAT SINCE THE DAWN OF SOCIAL MEDIA HAS BEEN USING [00:06:54] THESE PLATFORMS, BACK WHEN I WAS A MAYOR IN 2009, I WAS ABLE TO [00:06:58] START USING THE DIGITAL PLATFORMS TO CREATE CONTENT FOR [00:07:03] MY CITIZENS WHO I TOLD THEM, [00:07:06] TWEET ME ABOUT ANY PROBLEM IN THE CITY. I HAVE TWEETS ABOUT POTHOLES. [00:07:10] I HAVE TWEETS ABOUT CHALLENGES. [00:07:13] WE SHOWED THEM A WAY TO CREATE MORE RESPONSIBLE GOVERNMENT. [00:07:16] IT WAS A CREATIVE USE OF THE PLATFORM AT THAT TIME UNTIL [00:07:19] PEOPLE FROM OTHER PLACES STARTED TEXTING ME TO FIX THEIR POTHOLES. [00:07:24] SOME GUY FROM DUBLIN IT TWEETED ME AND SAID, I'VE GOT A BOTTLE. [00:07:30] ICE -- GOT A POT HOLE. [00:07:34] I SAID, I'VE GOT 99 PROBLEMS AND [00:07:38] YOUR DITCH ANTOINE. [00:07:43] I AM -- AINT ONE. [00:07:47] WE NEED TO SET FORWARD A VISION, AND AGENDA OF HOW WE CAN WORK [00:07:51] TOGETHER TO DO SOME GOOD IN THE WORLD. IF THERE IS ANYTHING I FEEL LIKE [00:07:55] WE NEED TO DO MORE OF IT IS [00:07:56] FINDING COMMON CAUSE BETWEEN SO MUCH OF THE REFLEXIVE TRIBALISM [00:08:00] DIVIDING THE COUNTRY. I BELIEVE THAT THE LINES THAT [00:08:04] DIVIDE US ARE NOT AS STRONG AS THE TIES THAT BIND US AND IN THAT SPIRIT I AM GRATEFUL TO BE [00:08:10] HERE IN COMMON CAUSE WITH MY FRIEND, SENATOR JOHN KENNEDY. [00:08:16] SEN. KENNEDY: I WANT TO THANK MY [00:08:24] FRIEND, SENATOR BOOKER. [00:08:28] HE IS THE PRIME MINISTER OF COOL. [00:08:34] SEN. BOOKER: SOMEBODY PLEASE HAVE RECORDED DATA. [00:08:38] SEN. KENNEDY: IT'S TRUE. [00:08:41] WE SIT ON THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE TOGETHER IN JUDICIARY [00:08:44] IS A VERY ACTIVE COMMITTEE. YOU KNOW THIS. [00:08:48] HE IS A SERVICE MAN. [00:08:52] -- SERIOUS MAN AND A SERIOUS LEGISLATOR. [00:08:56] HE EXERCISES POWER MATERIALLY. [00:09:00] NOT EVERY IN THAT -- EVERYBODY IN THIS PLACE DOES. [00:09:04] HE ASKED ME TO WORK WITH HIM ON [00:09:09] THIS CONCEPT, THE IDEA. I WAS SO HAPPY TO DO IT. [00:09:14] I AM FROM LOUISIANA. [00:09:18] I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DID NOT ASK YOU TO COME VISIT US. [00:09:22] YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME. LOUISIANA HAS THE BEST FOOD IN [00:09:25] THE WORLD, AS LONG AS YOU DON'T ASK TOO MANY QUESTIONS. [00:09:32] WHEN YOU PASS A DITCH, YOU LOOK [00:09:35] AT IT AND GO, THERE IS A DITCH. WHEN WE PASSED A DITCH IN [00:09:40] LOUISIANA, WE SEE DINNER, BUT IT'S ALL ABOUT HOW YOU COOK IT. [00:09:44] YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOME IN LOUISIANA. [00:09:48] I SO ADMIRE WHAT YOU DO. [00:09:57] I'M NOT SURE YOU REALIZE HOW IMPORTANT WHAT YOU DO IS. [00:10:03] THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, IN SOME [00:10:08] RESPECTS, THE CITIZENS OF THE WORLD NOW GET TO INFORMATION FROM YOU. [00:10:15] THEY USED TO GET IT FROM NEWSPAPERS. [00:10:19] THAT HAS CHANGED. [00:10:23] I AM NOT HERE TO DENIGRATE NEWSPAPERS. [00:10:27] WE STILL HAVE WONDERFUL NEWSPAPERS. [00:10:30] I READ THE WASHINGTON POST AND THE NEW YORK TIMES AND THE WALL STREET JOURNAL. [00:10:34] I READ THE ECONOMIST MAGAZINE. [00:10:38] I READ LOCAL PAPERS. BUT THE WORLD HAS CHANGED. [00:10:41] FOR EVERY ONE OF THEM, THERE ARE A DOZEN OF YOU. [00:10:47] YOU WOULD NOT SURVIVE IF PEOPLE DID NOT READ YOU. [00:10:51] WHAT CAN GOVERNMENT DO FOR YOU? [00:10:54] FRANKLY, THE BEST THING GOVERNMENT CAN DO FOR YOU IS LEAVE YOU ALONE AND I MEAN THAT. [00:10:59] YOU DON'T WANT GOVERNMENT [00:11:02] INVOLVED IN WHAT YOU SAY AND HOW YOU SAY IT. THAT'S YOUR BUSINESS. [00:11:06] DO YOU KNOW WHO WILL DETERMINE [00:11:10] WHETHER YOU SUCCEED OR FAIL? YOUR AUDIENCE. [00:11:13] THEY WILL VOTE WITH THEIR FEET FOR THEIR CLICK. [00:11:20] GOVERNMENT SHOULD AND CAN PROTECT PROPERTY RIGHTS. [00:11:24] THAT WILL BECOME MORE AND MORE [00:11:29] AND MORE IMPORTANT. [00:11:33] HOPEFULLY, IT IS ONE OF THE [00:11:33] ISSUES THAT AS A GROUP WE CAN [00:11:38] HELP YOU ADDRESS. [00:11:40] THE FINAL POINT I MAKE IS WITH [00:11:49] SUCCESS -- AND YOU HAVE HAD IT, GOES RESPONSIBILITY. [00:11:54] OK? [00:11:57] I DON'T WANT YOU TO LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACT THAT, AS CORY [00:12:01] POINTED OUT, A LOT OF PEOPLE GET [00:12:05] THEIR FACTS, THEIR OPINIONS, THEIR INFORMATION, FROM YOU. [00:12:10] I KNOW THAT IS THE MORE PEOPLE [00:12:13] YOU, THE MOWER -- MORE APPARENT AS THAT IS FOR YOU. [00:12:18] IT HELPS YOU SURVIVE AND PAY THE BILLS. I GET ALL THAT. [00:12:23] BUT IT IS A SERIOUS, SERIOUS, RESPONSIBILITY. [00:12:26] DO NOT EVER, EVER UNDERESTIMATE [00:12:31] THE IMPORTANCE OF THE TRUTH. I BELIEVE IN THE DIALECTIC. [00:12:37] A COMPETITION OF IDEAS. THAT IS WHAT YOU DO. [00:12:40] SOME OF YOU SEE IT THIS WAY AND OTHERS OF YOU SEE IT THIS WAY. YOU COMPETE. [00:12:46] THROUGH THE DIALECTIC, WE GET [00:12:47] THE TRUE SPIRIT I CAN TELL YOU [00:12:52] HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS. I AM HAPPY TO BE A PART OF THIS. I MEAN IT. [00:12:57] I WISH I WROTE AS WELL AS MANY [00:13:00] OF YOU DO AND I WISH I SPOKE AS WELL AS MANY OF YOU DO. [00:13:03] I ADMIRE WHAT YOU DO. I LEARNED A LOT FROM YOU. [00:13:06] THANK YOU FOR DOING IT, BUT DO [00:13:10] NOT FORGET THE RESPONSIBILITY YOU HAVE, NOT JUST TO THE [00:13:14] AMERICAN PEOPLE, BUT THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD. [00:13:18] SO, I'M GOING TO SIT IN THE BACK AND LISTEN TO YOUR GREAT [00:13:21] PANELISTS TODAY AND STAY AS LONG [00:13:26] AS I CAN. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BE A PART OF THIS AND I WANT [00:13:29] TO THANK SENATOR BOOKER. [00:13:33] DID I MENTION HE IS THE PRIME MINISTER OF COOL? [00:13:36] AND HE'S GOT A BIG BRAIN TOO, A [00:13:39] BIG BRAIN. [00:13:43] THANK YOU ALL. [00:13:48] >> ARE THESE ON? AMAZING. [00:13:51] THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE TODAY. WE HAVE A GREAT, VERY LARGE PANEL. [00:13:56] WE ARE HOPING TO GET INTO ALL YOUR EXPERTISE. [00:13:59] I AM DYLAN WELLS AND I COVER CREATORS AT THE WASHINGTON POST. [00:14:02] MY MANDATE IS TO BRIDGE THE GAP [00:14:05] BETWEEN CREATOR JOURNALISM AND TRADITIONAL MEDIA AND COVER THE [00:14:08] POWER CREATORS HAVE TODAY AND HOW YOU WERE ALL RESHAPING [00:14:12] DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES. IN TODAY'S INSTANCE, RESHAPING POLICY. YOU HAVE A LOT TO GET INTO. [00:14:18] CREATORS EXIST IN EVERY CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT UNDER THE COUNTRY AND I WOULD LIKE TO [00:14:21] START WITH YOU, AVERY. [00:14:25] BECAUSE YOU COME FROM SENATOR KENNEDY'S HOME STATE OF [00:14:27] LOUISIANA WHERE YOU ARE THE CEO OF THE LOUISIANA CRAWFISH COMPANY. [00:14:32] HOW DO YOU TURN A SEAFOOD BUSINESS INTO COMPELLING CONTENT? [00:14:36] HOW HAS IT BEING A CREATOR [00:14:38] TRANSFORMED HER FAMILY BUSINESS INTO THE NATIONWIDE BRAND WE SEE TODAY? [00:14:44] >> DAD IS A LOADED QUESTION. [00:14:47] THAT IS UNLOCKED. I AM WITH THE LOUISIANA CRAWFISH COMPANY. [00:14:54] WE WERE A BIT DIFFERENT. WE MAY BE A BIT DIFFERENT TO [00:14:58] THAT OTHER CREATORS HERE BECAUSE [00:15:00] , FOR US, THE BUSINESS CAME FIRST. MY DAD STARTED IN 1985. [00:15:05] WE HAVE FOUR DECADES OF BUSINESS UNDER OUR BELT AND WE HAVE [00:15:08] REALLY ONLY -- ONLY TAKEN A DEEP DIVE INTO CONTENT THE LAST THREE OR FIVE YEARS. [00:15:14] THIS HAS BROADENED OUR REACH. NOT JUST FOR CUSTOMERS. [00:15:17] FOR PEOPLE THAT DO NOT EVEN KNOW THEY ARE LOOKING FOR US. [00:15:21] WE CAN PUT AN AD OUT AND IF SOMEBODY TYPES IN, BY LOUISIANA CRAWFISH. [00:15:27] MAYBE THERE IS A GUY IN CALIFORNIA SCROLLING COOKING [00:15:30] VIDEOS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO COOK THAT WEEKEND. [00:15:34] THIS NATURALLY LETS PEOPLE FIND US THAT MIGHT NOT BE LOOKING. [00:15:38] >> AND FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE NOT SEEN YOUR CONTENT, THIS IS NOT COOKING CONTENT. [00:15:44] IT IS HUNTING CRAWFISH. THERE ARE LOTS OF CREEPY CRAWLIES. [00:15:49] AND YOU ARE SHIPPING THESE LIVE NATIONWIDE. >> YES. [00:15:54] MY HUSBAND AND OUR TEENAGE SON ARE THE FACE OF THE CONTENT. [00:15:57] IT'S ON THE FARM, IN THE BOAT, CATCHING THE CRAWFISH, IN THE [00:16:01] WAREHOUSE, PACKING AND SHIPPING. OUR CUSTOMERS GET TO SEE, START [00:16:05] TO FINISH, POND TO TABLE. [00:16:09] >> SPEAKING OF CRITTERS OF VARIOUS SORTS, MARK, YOUR [00:16:12] CONTENT IS LESS CLOSE TO HOME. [00:16:16] YOU ARE TRAVELING NONSTOP AS THE [00:16:18] CEO AND HOST OF BRAVE WILDERNESS [00:16:22] , PRODUCING WILDLIFE CONSERVATION CONTENT RANGING [00:16:24] FROM THE VERY CUTE, WITH ONE OF [00:16:27] MY FAVORITES, TO THE SNAKES AND [00:16:30] THE BUGS THAT YOU THUMBNAILS AT SOME NAILS REALLY STOP ME IN MY [00:16:34] TRACKS. [00:16:37] YOU ARE SEEING ALL THE DIFFERENT CREATURES. [00:16:41] IT WAS A VERY HIGH PRODUCTION CONTENT. [00:16:44] YOU WERE TRAVELING, DEALING WITH DIFFERENT INTERNATIONAL [00:16:48] GOVERNMENTS. A FULL CREW. CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT THE [00:16:52] LOGISTICS THAT GO INTO THE BUILDING THAT SORT OF MEDIA [00:16:55] COMPANY AS A CREATOR FOR YOU HAVE UNLOCKED MORE THAN 22 [00:17:01] MILLION FOLLOWERS ON YOUTUBE ALONE? >> THANK YOU. [00:17:04] IT HAS BEEN A JOURNEY. ACTUALLY, TODAY WE ARE [00:17:07] CELEBRATING 12 YEARS ON THE PLATFORM ON YOUTUBE. [00:17:11] IT HAS BEEN OVER ONE DECADE OF EXPEDITIONS AROUND THE WORLD. [00:17:15] LIKE MOST YOUTUBE CREATORS, WE [00:17:18] HAD A VERY HUMBLE BEGINNINGS. [00:17:20] WE STARTED WITH ZERO SUBSCRIBERS [00:17:24] IN 2014 AND BUILT OUR NETWORK, ONE PERSON AT A TIME, REALLY. [00:17:30] WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT OUR GRASS ROOTS ARE RURAL OHIO, CATCHING [00:17:35] FARM POND TURTLES, NOW, SWIMMING [00:17:37] IN THE GALAPAGOS WITH SHARKS, THAT DID NOT JUST HAPPEN WITH A [00:17:40] SINGLE VIDEO UPLOAD. IT WAS THOUSANDS OF VIDEOS AND INTERACTIONS. [00:17:44] REALLY, TRYING TO REACH OUR AUDIENCE IN WAYS THAT MADE OUR [00:17:47] CONTENT OF THE MOST AUTHENTIC STORIES WE COULD POSSIBLY TELL. [00:17:54] IN TERMS OF THE LOGISTICS OF GOING SOMEWHERE LIKE THE GALAPAGOS, THAT IS WHEN YOU [00:17:57] ASCEND TO A LARGER TEAM. [00:18:02] YOU HAVE BUILT THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND RELATIONSHIPS OF TRUST THAT ALLOW YOU TO GO TO A PLACE LIKE THAT. [00:18:08] REALLY, IT IS ALL COMING FROM THE SAME THING ONCE THE EARLY [00:18:12] DAYS, A PLACE OF CURIOSITY, WANTING TO MAKE CONTENT WHICH [00:18:14] WILL MAKE OUR SUBSCRIBERS AND [00:18:18] OUR AUDIENCE FEEL THE LOVE OF WILDLIFE AND NATURE, JUST LIKE US. [00:18:21] >> HOW BIG IS YOUR COMPANY TODAY? HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE EMPLOYED? [00:18:26] >> TODAY WE HAVE 16 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES. [00:18:29] THAT IS JUST IN THE PEOPLE THAT WORK EVERY SINGLE DAY AT BRAVE WILDERNESS. [00:18:34] WE HAVE AN ENTIRE EXTERIOR NETWORK OF CONTRACTORS AND [00:18:38] PARTNERS AND AGENTS, AND MANAGERS, AND PEOPLE THROUGHOUT [00:18:42] THE INDUSTRY THAT MAKE BRAVE WILDERNESS HAPPENED. WHILE IT IS AMAZING TO BE IN [00:18:46] FRONT OF THE AUDIENCE TALKING ABOUT OUR CHANNEL, IT IS NOT [00:18:49] JUST MYSELF OR MY COHOST, COYOTE, YOU MAKE THE CONTENT. [00:18:54] IT IS A TEAM, A VILLAGE OF PEOPLE, WHO BRING BRAVE WILDERNESS TO A GLOBAL AUDIENCE. [00:19:00] >> YOU HAVE ALSO BUILT A MASSIVE, INDEPENDENT MEDIA OPERATION. [00:19:05] REALLY, YOU PIONEERED THE [00:19:09] PODCAST AND BROADCAST SPACE. ONE THING I FIND INTERESTING ABOUT YOUR STORY IS HOW MUCH YOU [00:19:13] HAVE FOCUSED ON RETAINING YOUR CONTROL AND MAINTAINING INDEPENDENCE THINKING ABOUT [00:19:16] DIFFERENT PLATFORMS, AND HOW YOU ARE ACTUALLY ABLE TO SCALE. [00:19:20] TALK ABOUT WHY THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO YOU AND HOW YOU HAVE ACTUALLY GONE ABOUT [00:19:24] RETAINING THE CONTROL? >> DYLAN, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. [00:19:28] I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT, FIRST AND FOREMOST, TO SENATOR [00:19:32] BOOKER FOR REPRESENTING NEW [00:19:35] JERSEY CREATORS AND CREATING THIS CAUCUS, WHICH IS A VERY [00:19:39] IMPORTANT MOMENT AND A CELEBRATORY MOMENT FOR CREATORS, [00:19:43] LIKE EVERYBODY HERE ON STAGE AND ANYONE WATCHING. [00:19:48] CONTROL IS AN INTERESTING THING. IN THE CONTENT WORLD, WHEN YOU [00:19:52] DO NOT HAVE CONTROL, YOU ARE [00:19:55] MORE LIKELY TO CRUMBLE TO THE [00:19:58] PRESSURES OF ADVERTISERS AND EXCLUSIVE LICENSORS. [00:20:01] FOR US, MAINTAINING CONTROL IS A [00:20:08] FOUNDATIONAL PIECE TO THE BUSINESS WE SAW MOVING INTO THE FUTURE. [00:20:11] THIS DID NOT ALLOW US TO CONTROL OUR OWN DESTINY, BUILD A [00:20:14] RELATIONSHIP WITH FANS WE WANTED TO BUILD. [00:20:17] MOST IMPORTANTLY IT ALLOWED US [00:20:22] TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT THE [00:20:22] CONTENT AND CHANNEL THAT ARE [00:20:26] GOING TO KEEP US IN THE BUSINESS FOR A LONG TIME TO COME AND CREATE LONGEVITY WITH WHAT WE [00:20:30] ARE BUILDING. [00:20:33] I THINK CONTROL IS A SYMBOL OF A [00:20:36] CREATORS OF FREEDOM TO DO AND PUT OUT WHAT THEY PLEASE AND CHOOSE. [00:20:40] IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. [00:20:43] >> FOR FOLKS HOPE -- WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR, YOU HAVE RAISED THE [00:20:47] CURTAIN ON WHAT THE FINANCIAL REALITY LOOKS LIKE. [00:20:50] I BELIEVE IT WAS MORE THAN $20 MILLION YOU GENERATED LAST YEAR. [00:20:55] THAT IS THE SCALE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IN CREATOR COMPANIES. WHAT DOES YOUR COMPANY LOOK LIKE [00:20:59] NOW IN TERMS OF STAFF AND THE [00:21:04] BEHIND-THE-SCENES STUFF GOING INTO PRODUCING THIS? [00:21:05] >> WELL, LOOK, THE NETWORK IS -- [00:21:12] IT HAS GROWN SO MUCH AND EXPANDED SO MUCH OVER THE LAST DECADE. [00:21:17] BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH WE HAVE SEEN, THE CONNECTIONS WE HAVE MADE, THE AUDIENCE WE BUILT. [00:21:24] YES, WE HAVE SEEN A LOT OF SUCCESS FINANCIALLY. [00:21:27] IT DID NOT COME WITHOUT TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS. IT DID NOT COME WITHOUT FAILURES. [00:21:31] IT DID NOT COME WITHOUT US [00:21:33] FIGURING OUT HOW TO GO -- GROW [00:21:36] FROM A 1, 2, THREE MAN OPERATION TO HAVING DOZENS OF CONTRACTORS [00:21:40] ALL OVER THE GLOBE, MAKING AN [00:21:44] IMPRINT FINANCIALLY, NOT ONLY IN NEW JERSEY, BUT THROUGHOUT THE U.S. AND GLOBALLY AS WELL. [00:21:49] >> YOU STARTED IN TRADITIONAL MEDIA BEFORE GOING OUT ON YOUR OWN. [00:21:54] CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT THE TRANSITION LOOKED LIKE AND WHY YOU FELT IT WAS THE RIGHT TIME? [00:22:00] WHAT IS IT LIKE, NOW APPROACHING THINGS AS AN INDEPENDENT MEDIA [00:22:03] COMPANY YOURSELVES VERSUS COMING [00:22:06] FROM THE TYPE OF NEWSROOM SOME OF US ARE MORE FAMILIAR WITH? [00:22:09] >> IT HAS BEEN CRAZY, SCARY, INTIMIDATING, AND AWESOME. [00:22:14] I LEARNED A WHOLE DIFFERENT SIDE OF MYSELF. [00:22:16] I WAS IN IT FOR 30 YEARS. DO THE MATH. [00:22:21] LOCAL TV, REGIONAL TV, NATIONAL. [00:22:25] I REALLY HAD NO DESIRE TO DO ANY OF THIS, HONESTLY, BECAUSE IT SCARED ME. [00:22:29] I THOUGHT, NO, I'M A REALLY GOOD [00:22:32] EMPLOYEE. RUNNING A BUSINESS. [00:22:36] SO WHY WOULD I? [00:22:40] LITERALLY, I HAD TO COMPLETELY RETHINK THE WAY I WANTED TO DO LIFE. [00:22:45] AT 50 PLUS YEARS OLD. [00:22:47] IT HAS BEEN AT JUST OVER TWO YEARS FOR ME. [00:22:51] THE BUSINESS SIDE HAS BEEN THE MOST INTIMIDATING PART OF IT. [00:22:55] MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE BEEN MARRIED FOR A YEAR. [00:22:58] ONE YEAR IN, GUYS. A YEAR AND A WEEK. [00:23:02] FORTUNATELY, HE DOES KNOW A LOT [00:23:07] ABOUT BUSINESS. HE IS A FORMER CEO IN THE TECH INDUSTRY. [00:23:11] I'M LIKE, BECAUSE THE LEFT BRAIN IS ALL I'VE GOD, LET'S FOCUS [00:23:14] OVER THERE AND FROM A PRODUCING BACKGROUND, THAT IS HOW I STARTED. [00:23:20] IT IS EXTREMELY INTIMIDATING AND I WATCH ALL OF YOU AND I GO, HOW DO THEY DO THAT? [00:23:26] I DID NOT REALIZE HOW I HAD BEEN FOR 30 YEARS, TRYING TO BE A [00:23:29] JOURNALIST WHERE MY OPINION DID NOT MATTER. IT SHOULD NOT MATTER. [00:23:34] IT IS DIFFERENT A LITTLE BIT IN SPORTS, BUT AS A SPORTS [00:23:37] JOURNALIST FOR 30 YEARS, IT IS NOT ABOUT ME. [00:23:40] MY JOB IS TO TELL YOU THE STORY [00:23:42] IS BASED ON THE HIGHLIGHTS, SCORES, REACTION, AND INTERVIEWS [00:23:46] AND I NEED TO STAY OUT OF IT. BUT THEN SWITCHED TO, MY OPINION [00:23:50] DOES MATTER. [00:23:53] THERE IS SUCH FREEDOM. [00:23:55] IN THAT, TO SAY, I WILL SAY THIS AND STAND BY IT. [00:24:00] BUT THE ENTIRE GOAL OF IT, FOR ME, WAS TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS. [00:24:05] THAT IS WHAT I THINK IS MISSING. WE ARE IN WASHINGTON, D.C.. [00:24:09] THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS MISSING. [00:24:13] HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE WITH WHOM YOU DISAGREE. [00:24:15] THAT IS WHAT THE GOAL OF MY SHOW WAS AND IS. [00:24:18] NOW IT IS LIKE, WAIT. CAN I EXPAND? CAN I DO MORE? [00:24:24] I AM LIVING IN A FEAR OF STARTING FROM SCRATCH. [00:24:27] TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO, ZERO FOLLOWERS. [00:24:32] WHO WILL DO THIS? WHO WILL LISTEN? [00:24:34] THEY WILL SAY, SHE IS A WASHED UP OLD SPORTS CHEEK. [00:24:38] YOU DON'T REALIZE THE POWER OF TRYING, FALLING ON HER FACE, GETTING BACK UP AND REALIZING [00:24:42] YOU CAN BRING OTHERS WITH YOU, [00:24:45] AND IF YOU DO NOT, WHAT A WASTE OF I THINK IN GOD-GIVEN PLATFORMS WE HAVE. [00:24:50] IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT ME AND MY HUSBAND. [00:24:52] I HAVE THREE KIDS, 24, 23, AND [00:24:55] 20 WHO WISH I WOULD SHUT UP AND [00:24:57] START GIVING MIGHT JUST STOP GIVING MY OPINIONS ON THINGS. [00:25:01] I AM REALIZING THE POWER OF THAT TOO. [00:25:04] THAT JUST BY TRYING TO SPEAK UP IN A KIND WAY -- WE DON'T HAVE [00:25:07] TO BE UGLY AND DIVISIVE IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS -- WE ARE TEACHING [00:25:10] THOSE AFTER US TO DO THE SAME AS [00:25:14] SAYING AND CREATE MORE CONVERSATIONS. IT HAS BEEN A CRAZY QUICK JOURNEY HERE THE LAST COUPLE [00:25:18] YEARS. >> THERE IS SO MUCH DEBATE NOW [00:25:21] ABOUT WHETHER CREATORS ARE JOURNALISTS AND THE [00:25:25] DISTINCTIONS. WHERE DO YOU FALL THINKING ABOUT JOURNALISTS VERSUS CREATORS? [00:25:29] IS IT THAT AN ACTUAL AND/OR OR [00:25:33] DO YOU HOLD THE SAME RESPONSIBILITIES NOW YOU ARE INDEPENDENT? [00:25:39] >> WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY. [00:25:41] AND I DON'T THINK OF MYSELF AS A JOURNALIST ANYMORE. I DON'T. [00:25:47] ONCE YOU GIVE YOUR OPINION, YOU ARE AUTOMATICALLY BIASED. [00:25:51] THAT'S OK. JUST OWN IT. [00:25:53] I WAS AT ESPN MY LAST ALMOST 17 YEARS AND BEFORE THAT, ALONG THE [00:25:56] WAY, THAT WAS ONE OF MY ISSUES. [00:26:01] ARE STEPHEN A. SMITH AND YOU ARE. [00:26:04] TO GIVE YOUR OPINION. [00:26:08] BUT AS A JOURNALIST IT IS ABOUT [00:26:11] TAKING THE FACTS AND ASKING RESPONSIBLE QUESTIONS. [00:26:14] THEN REACT TO THAT WITH GOOD FOLLOW UP IF YOU ARE ACTUALLY LISTENING AND DOING YOUR JOB. [00:26:18] THAT'S WHAT'S MISSING. [00:26:20] I HAVE THAT BACKGROUND OF CURIOSITY AND ASKING QUESTIONS [00:26:24] AND HOPEFULLY IT LEADS TO GOOD CONVERSATIONS. [00:26:27] I THINK PEOPLE ACROSS THE LINES [00:26:31] WAITED TOO MUCH. IF YOU ARE AT ONE OF THESE [00:26:35] MAINSTREAM MEDIA NETWORKS, CERTAINLY, IN CERTAIN AREAS OF [00:26:38] DISK SPACE WITH STREAMING AND CREATOR CONTENT, MAKING [00:26:42] CONCERTED EFFORT TO DO YOUR JOB [00:26:44] RESPONSIBLY WITH THE FACTS, AND GO FROM THERE. [00:26:47] >> MATT, I FEEL LIKE YOU WERE ALWAYS AT THE CAPITOL. [00:26:51] I FEEL LIKE THIS IS MAY BE MY THIRD TIME SEEING YOU HERE. [00:26:55] >> WE RETIRED TWO YEARS AGO OFF THE PLATFORM AND DID WHAT ALL [00:26:59] OLD RETIREES DO, GET INTO POLITICS. THAT'S NOT MEANT TO OFFEND [00:27:03] ANYONE IN THIS ROOM, BY THE WAY. YOU GUYS ARE THE COOL GUYS. [00:27:08] I HEARD SENATOR BOOKER IS THE KING OF COOL. >> YOU ARE INVOLVED WITH THE [00:27:12] LAUNCH OF THE CREATOR CAUCUS ON THE HOUSE SIDE. YOU MENTIONED YOUR RETIREMENT. [00:27:16] IF YOU FOUNDED A MEDIA COMPANY, BIG CHANNEL. [00:27:20] AND THEN YOU SET THE PRECEDENT IN REAL-TIME BY SELLING IT. [00:27:23] WHAT IS ONE THING YOU THINK POLICYMAKERS HERE NEED TO KNOW [00:27:26] ABOUT THE TYPE OF CREATOR OPERATIONS YOU HAVE BUILT WHERE [00:27:29] YOU AREN'T JUST BUILDING AN [00:27:30] AUDIENCE, BUT A COMPANY THAT CAN [00:27:33] SUSTAIN AFTER YOU ARE NO LONGER YOURSELF TIED TO IT. [00:27:38] >> FIRST, I THINK THAT MOMENTS LIKE THIS ARE HUGE IN THE GOAL OF PROVING LEGITIMACY. [00:27:43] WE HAVE BEEN ENGAGED IN THE CREATOR EXPERIMENT NOW FOR OVER 20 YEARS. [00:27:49] YOUTUBE CROSSED THE 20 YEAR ANNIVERSARY, BUT ONLY NOW ARE CREATORS BEING SEEN AS A VIABLE [00:27:53] CREATIVE FORCE, A VIABLE SOURCE [00:27:57] OF INFORMATION, THE NEXT GENERATION OF ENTERTAINMENT. [00:27:59] BUT IT HAS BEEN TWO DECADES THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING. [00:28:02] IT'S GREAT WE ARE HERE AND HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS. BUT WE ARE STILL BEHIND THE BALL. [00:28:07] THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY [00:28:09] MY PARTNER, STEPHANIE, AND I ARE IN WASHINGTON SO MUCH. [00:28:13] BECAUSE WE HAVE THE TIME TO TRANSLATE OUR WORLD TO THIS [00:28:16] WORLD, TO SHOW THAT, HEY, GOVERNMENT, YOU HAVE BEEN [00:28:19] FAMILIAR WITH PRODUCTION [00:28:23] STUDIOS, MEDIA COMPANIES, HOLLYWOOD FOR YEARS. [00:28:25] THIS IS JUST A NEW ITERATION OF THIS. WHAT YOU SAW AND NO LOVE AS SHOW [00:28:31] RUNNERS ARE JUST ALGORITHMS NOW. [00:28:33] WHAT WERE VIEWS ON YOUTUBE OR [00:28:35] VIEWS ON TELEVISION NOWADAYS. [00:28:40] THERE A LOT OF COMMONALITIES HERE. [00:28:42] WHEN ALL YOU ARE DEALING WITH IN [00:28:45] THE HEADLINES IS YOUTUBE PRANK? DOES IT THIS OR CREATOR X DOES [00:28:48] BAD THING, IT CASTS THE ENTIRE [00:28:52] SPACE IN A VERY NEGATIVE LIGHT WHEN IN ACTUALITY WE ARE THE [00:28:55] NEXT ITERATION OF MEDIA STUDIOS, [00:28:58] JOB CREATORS, SMALL BUSINESS STUDIOS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A TAX CODE. [00:29:03] IT IS HARD FOR US TO GET LOANS BECAUSE THE BANK DOES NOT THINK [00:29:06] THIS IS A LEGITIMATE BUSINESS. [00:29:10] HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE HOUSE AND SENATE OPENS DOORS AND [00:29:12] GIVES DEFINITIONS TO THE SPACE [00:29:14] TO SHOW WE ARE A FORCE WORTHY OF [00:29:18] PAYING ATTENTION TO, AND ECONOMIC FORCE THAT IS VERY SIZABLE AND ONLY GROWING. [00:29:24] AND TO BE HONEST, THE NET -- NEXT GENERATION OF EMPLOYMENT FOR A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE. [00:29:29] BEING A CREATOR IS THE MOST [00:29:33] DESIRED JOB IN AMERICA NOW. THAT'S THE TRUTH. [00:29:37] FOR A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE THIS IS THE FIRST PAYCHECK THEY ARE GETTING. [00:29:42] THE PLATFORMS ARE HANDING OUT PAYCHECKS TO KIDS THAT HAVE [00:29:44] NEVER DONE THEIR TAXES BEFORE, [00:29:46] LET ALONE BE SO LOW ENTREPRENEURS FIGURING OUT WHAT [00:29:49] IT MEANS TO BE AN INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR, TO RECEIVE THAT. [00:29:53] SO IF WE CAN PAVE THE WAY FOR THE NEXT GENERATION, ALL SHIPS RISE. [00:29:57] WE ALL SUCCEED. [00:29:59] >> WHAT HAS BEEN THE MOST SURPRISING LEARNING FOR YOU [00:30:02] SINCE LAST SUMMER WHEN YOU LAUNCHED THE HOUSE SIDE OF THE [00:30:06] CAUCUS? WHAT IS THE MOST INTERESTING TO [00:30:10] LEARN ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO HOW D.C. OPERATES WITH REGARDS TO [00:30:14] CREATORS. >> ONE THING SENATOR BOOKER BROUGHT UP IS CREATORS FALL [00:30:17] THROUGH THE CRACKS. [00:30:21] PLATFORMS HAVE LOBBYISTS ALL AROUND WASHINGTON ADVOCATING FOR THE PLATFORMS. [00:30:25] YOU HAVE HOLLYWOOD ADVOCATING FOR HOLLYWOOD. [00:30:29] CREATORS ARE NOT A UNIFIED FORCE. WE DON'T HAVE A CREAT -- [00:30:34] COLLECTIVE UNIT THAT CAN HIRE A [00:30:35] LOBBYIST TO SPEAK ON THE BEHALF [00:30:39] OF OUR INTEREST TO WASHINGTON. AS A RESULT, WE FALL THROUGH THE [00:30:42] CRACKS WHEN IT COMES TO POLICY, [00:30:43] BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE ARE THE [00:30:47] FIRST MOVERS IN A LOT OF ISSUES THAT AFFECT AMERICA NOW. [00:30:50] WE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE FIRST TO BE DEEPFAKE WITH ARI. [00:30:56] OUR CONTENT IS THE FIRST TO BE SCANNED AND USED. [00:30:58] WE ARE GETTING DARKEST -- DO [00:31:07] XED. DIGITAL PRIVACY FOR CHILDREN ONLINE. [00:31:11] ALL OF THESE ARE ISSUES CREATORS ARE EXPERIENCING FIRST ON BEHALF [00:31:15] OF THEIR COMMUNITIES. THAT IS WHY THESE MOMENTS ARE [00:31:18] IMPORTANT AND EXCITING FOR ME AND THE WIDER CREATOR COMMUNITY [00:31:21] BECAUSE WALLS THAT EXISTED ARE STARTING TO BREAK DOWN AND WE [00:31:26] ARE ABLE TO REPRESENT THE CREATOR AND COMMUNITY NEEDS IN [00:31:29] THE PLACE WHERE IT MATTERS MOST. [00:31:33] >> YOU HAVE BUILT A VERY DIFFERENT BUSINESS, JACKIE, FROM [00:31:36] OTHER FOLKS ON THE PANEL. YOU WERE A PIONEER IN THE BEAUTY [00:31:40] SPACE ON YOUTUBE AND BECAME AN ADVOCATE AND NOW YOU ARE A [00:31:43] FOUNDER OF YOUR OWN COUNTRY -- [00:31:46] COMPANY, IN ADDITION. I AM CURIOUS TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR [00:31:50] TRANSITION STARTING YOUR OWN FRAGRANCE LINE AND WHAT YOU [00:31:53] THINK MEMBERS OF CONGRESS NEED TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT CREATORS TO [00:31:55] TAKE ON MORE OF A PORTFOLIO [00:31:58] CAREER WHERE YOU ARE A CREATOR AND ADVOCATE AND RUNNING YOUR OWN COMPANY AS WELL. [00:32:04] >> WELL, THE FIRST TRANSITION IS LEARNING HOW TO BE AN [00:32:07] INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR CREATOR, [00:32:08] A TRANSITION IN ITSELF, AND A [00:32:12] LEARNING CURVE IN ITSELF BECAUSE I STARTED MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN THERE WAS [00:32:16] NO PLAYBOOK FOR ANY OF THIS AND I HAD TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THE TAX THING. [00:32:21] MUCH LIKE THE ISSUES YOU [00:32:23] MENTIONED OF [00:32:27] INTELLECTUAL-PROPERTY THIEVERY, ALL OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT [00:32:30] COMING -- COME FROM HAVING A DIGITAL PRESENCE ONLINE. [00:32:36] YOU LEARN HOW TO PROTECT YOURSELF. [00:32:39] IN ADDITION, YOU START A BUSINESS. [00:32:40] I HAVE ONE PARENT THAT WAS AN [00:32:44] ENTREPRENEUR, BUT I DID NOT LEARN MUCH. [00:32:46] I HAD TO TAKE ON MOST OF THE LEARNING. [00:32:51] WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE TO HIRE EMPLOYEES? [00:32:54] I COULD NOT HAVE EVEN DONE THIS [00:32:57] WITHOUT MY COFOUNDER HUSSMAN -- HUSBAND, DENNIS. [00:33:01] IF NOT FOR HIS FINANCE BACKGROUND AND SKILL SET IN [00:33:05] ACTUALLY PUTTING A TANGIBLE PLAN IN PLACE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO [00:33:07] IT, I DON'T THINK I WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO. [00:33:11] I AM FULL CAREER MODE. [00:33:15] I WAS LIKE, I WANT TO SHOW UP AND MAKE THINGS PRETTY. [00:33:19] HE SHOWED ME HOW TO HIRE AND FIRE. [00:33:22] HOW TO MAKE SURE THINGS ARE BEING DONE EFFICIENCY. [00:33:26] AND WHAT I WANT TO SAY TO [00:33:27] MEMBERS OF CONGRESS IS, LIKE [00:33:30] MANY OF US HAVE ECHOED, DON'T COUNT US OUT. [00:33:33] A LOT OF TIMES, WE REALLY ARE [00:33:36] THE FIRST TO EXPERIENCE ALL OF THE SOCIETAL CHANGES AND WAVES IN SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS. [00:33:42] AND I AM GLAD TO SEE THIS IS [00:33:47] STARTING TO BECOME A LEGITIMIZED INDUSTRY. [00:33:49] BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S BEEN LIKE TWO DECADES. [00:33:53] I DON'T THINK WE ARE GOING ANYWHERE. A LOT OF OUR BUSINESSES ARE [00:33:56] GENERATING A LOT OF INCOME. HOW CAN WE MAKE IT SO IT IS NOT [00:34:00] PAINSTAKINGLY DIFFICULT TO DO THINGS LIKE BUY A HOUSE OR GET A LOAN FOR A BUSINESS. [00:34:05] THESE ARE THINGS THAT I THINK MYSELF AND MY COFOUNDER'S ARE THE MOST INVESTED IN. [00:34:10] HOW TO CONTINUE TO RUN THE SHIP WITH MORE OUTSIDE SUPPORT WHILE [00:34:13] WE STILL FIGURE OUT AND NAVIGATE FIGURING OUT HOW TO DO IT ON A [00:34:17] PUBLIC PLATFORM AT THE SAME TIME. [00:34:20] >> BETWEEN YOU AND SAGE, I FEEL [00:34:21] LIKE THE TRICK WE ARE LEARNING [00:34:25] IF YOU NEED A HUSBAND THAT WILL RUN THE BUSINESS SIDE FOR YOU. [00:34:27] >> SO MUCH OF WHAT YOU SAID WAS SO TRUE. [00:34:32] EVEN THOUGH I STARTED AS A [00:34:34] CREATOR, TECHNICALLY, MICAH -- BACKGROUND BEFORE THAT WAS LIKE [00:34:38] PROFESSIONAL MAKEUP ARTISTRY. [00:34:41] I WAS USED TO MY WORK BEING SEEN. NOT TO BE -- NOT ME BEING SEEN. [00:34:47] AND ON TOP OF THAT, HAVING AN [00:34:51] IMMIGRANT PARENT, CULTURALLY, A LOT OF WOMEN AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE OUTSPOKEN. [00:34:56] AND ALSO, HAVING DROPPED OUT OF COLLEGE AT THE TIME. [00:35:01] I'M NOT SAYING I RECOMMEND IT. [00:35:04] BUT MOST OF WHAT I WAS USED TO WAS BEING BEHIND-THE-SCENES. [00:35:10] YOUTUBE I WAS LIKE, THIS IS CUTE AND FUN. MAYBE PEOPLE WILL LIKE HOW I DO MAKEUP. [00:35:16] BUT IT COMPLETELY TRANSFORMED MY LIFE. AND I'M SO GRATEFUL FOR IT. [00:35:21] IT WAS SO MUCH. I HAD TO DO A LOT OF UNLEARNING. [00:35:26] YOU WONDER WHAT IF, SOMETIMES, GUYS AND GALS. [00:35:30] WHAT IF YOU HAD LISTENED TO THE INNER VOICE. THERE IS FEAR. [00:35:34] WHAT IF YOU HAD NOT TRIED IT. [00:35:37] AND YOU ALL HAVE TEAMS NOW SO YOU ARE HELPING SO MANY PEOPLE. [00:35:40] AND I HAVE BEEN BLOWN AWAY BY [00:35:44] HOW OPEN AND FRIENDLY TO CREATIVE WORLD IS PRODUCTION ON THE ROAD I CAME FROM. [00:35:49] THERE ARE STILL SCARS BACK HERE. THAT'S OK. THE JOURNEY IS THE JOURNEY. [00:35:54] BUT WHEN YOU ASK QUESTIONS OF OTHER CREATORS, PEOPLE ARE SO WILLING TO HELP. [00:35:58] HAVE I GOT LUCKY, OR IS THIS [00:36:03] NORMAL? >> I THINK IT IS NORMAL. [00:36:05] >> IT IS UNDERESTIMATED, THE APPRECIATION. THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM FOR ALL OF US. [00:36:10] WE ARE DOING IT DIFFERENTLY, BUT THAT'S RARE. [00:36:14] >> WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CREATORS IMPACT ON DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES, [00:36:16] I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DID NOT [00:36:20] MENTION YOU BECAME AN OUTSPOKEN [00:36:22] VOICE IN THE BEAUTY SPACE ON DIVERSITY. [00:36:27] TALK ABOUT HOW YOU FEEL YOU HAVE [00:36:29] USED YOUR PERSONAL PLATFORM TO [00:36:32] SHAPE THE INDUSTRY YOU WERE JUST WORKING IN AS A MAKEUP ARTIST AT THE STOP OF -- START OF THIS. [00:36:38] >> WHAT INITIALLY STARTED WITH [00:36:41] THE MOST OBVIOUS RESPONSE WAS I GO TO A MAKEUP COUNTER AND I [00:36:45] DON'T SEE PRODUCTS FOR PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE ME. [00:36:48] AS I STARTED TO CREATE CONTENT [00:36:49] AND HAVE MORE CONVERSATIONS EVEN [00:36:53] WITH PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR THE COMPANIES. [00:36:55] I WOULD GET DM'S FROM PEOPLE THAT WORKED AT MAJOR [00:36:58] CONGLOMERATES LIKE, I'M THE ONLY [00:37:03] BLACK PERSON THAT WORKS AT THIS COMPANY AND I HAVE BEEN SAYING [00:37:06] ALL THIS STUFF AND NOBODY WOULD LISTEN TO ME. [00:37:09] I STARTED REALIZING THAT I WAS [00:37:13] BECOMING INVESTED IN THE BIGGEST [00:37:16] -- BIGGER SYSTEMIC ISSUES AROUND [00:37:22] THE SEAMS. ARE YOU NOT ACTIVELY LOOKING TO [00:37:25] HIRE DIVERSE PEOPLE BEHIND-THE-SCENES? [00:37:28] WHY ISN'T THAT YOU CAN PUT [00:37:32] MILLIONS OF AD DOLLARS BEHIND A SUPER BOWL COMMERCIAL, BUT YOU [00:37:35] DO NOT KNOW THAT BLACK WOMEN ALSO BY COSMETICS AND HAIR [00:37:39] PRODUCTS? [00:37:41] ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO HAIR, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE IS ALL [00:37:45] THIS DATA THAT SHOWS BLACK WOMEN OVER INDEX IN CERTAIN THINGS, [00:37:50] LIKE BUYING COMPLEXION PRODUCTS, MEANING WE TYPICALLY BUY SIGNIFICANTLY MORE OF THEM. [00:37:54] IT'S LIKE, WHY DO WE THINK? [00:37:58] IF THE FIRST PRODUCT IS A FLOP, I HAVE TO REPLACE IT. [00:38:04] IT IS EVEN MORE TRIAL AND ERROR. [00:38:08] I BECAME INVESTED IN NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT THE OBVIOUS, LIKE MAKE MORE SHADES. [00:38:15] MAYBE YOU SHOULD START DIVERSIFYING HOW YOU HIRE PEOPLE. [00:38:19] THAT'S WHEN IT BECAME BIGGER THAN JUST THE MAKEUP PART. [00:38:23] EVEN THOUGH THAT IS STILL IMPORTANT, IT SPOKE TO A BIGGER ISSUE. [00:38:29] STIMULATE THE ECONOMY, HIRE MORE [00:38:31] PEOPLE OR MORE QUALIFIED PEOPLE. BERKELEY HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS TOO? [00:38:36] I STARTED TO LEAN INTO THAT AS WELL. [00:38:40] IT OPENED AS A DOOR TO A BIGGER ISSUE THAT SO MANY PEOPLE WERE [00:38:45] MORE IMPACTED BY. THE CONVERSATION GOT TO MOVE [00:38:49] MORE LEGS WITH THAT END OF IT. [00:38:54] >> YOU HAVE SUCH DIFFERENT PATHS INTO THE CREATOR SPACE. [00:39:00] NOW THAT WE ALL HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF HOW YOU PUT YOUR PLATFORM AND WHAT YOUR CAREER [00:39:03] LOOKS LIKE TODAY I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CHALLENGES. [00:39:07] I AM CURIOUS TO HEAR FROM ALL OF YOU. [00:39:12] WHAT IS ONE HURDLE YOU FEEL HAS BEEN UNIQUE TO BUILDING AS A [00:39:16] CREATOR THAT MEMBERS OF CONGRESS [00:39:20] HERE MAY NOT BE AWARE OF? [00:39:23] AT THE END, IF YOU'RE WILLING TO GO FIRST. [00:39:28] >> I WOULD IMMEDIATELY THINK OF SOMETHING MATT MENTIONED. 20 YEARS OF YOUTUBE. [00:39:35] JUST NOW, REALLY BREAKING DOWN BARRIERS WITH THE TRADITIONAL [00:39:39] MAINSTREAM MEDIA INDUSTRY, HOLLYWOOD SPECIFICALLY. [00:39:43] AND IT IS NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF SPIRIT [00:39:47] WE HAVE BEEN PURSUING THIS A LONG TIME. [00:39:50] I THINK THAT THE TRUCK -- THE CHALLENGE OF, NOT ONLY PROVING [00:39:54] OURSELVES ON YOUTUBE, BUT [00:39:55] GETTING EVERYTHING TOGETHER, IN [00:39:58] TERMS OF BUSINESS, CREATING THE CONTENT, CREATING THE AUDIENCE, [00:40:02] BUILDING IT ALL, IT HAS LET US [00:40:05] TO A POINT WHERE WE AREN'T REALLY FINDING IT TIME TO HAVE A LEGITIMATE MOMENT WITH HOLLYWOOD. [00:40:12] AND THE OTHER MAINSTREAM MARKETPLACES. [00:40:17] WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE FRICTION WE HAVE ALL EXPERIENCED ALONG [00:40:20] THE JOURNEY, IT UNITES US AS CREATORS. [00:40:24] I AGREE THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST OPTIMISTIC AND POSITIVE [00:40:28] GROUPS YOU WILL EVER COME ACROSS IN BUSINESS. [00:40:31] A YOUTUBE CREATOR, ALMOST BY DEFINITION IS A BOOTSTRAP [00:40:35] BUSINESS, STARTING FROM SCRATCH. [00:40:38] YOU TAKE A LOT OF LICKS ALONG THE JOURNEY TO GET TO WHERE ALL OF US HAVE GONE TO. [00:40:42] THAT IS WHY WE ARE ALL ADVOCATES, NOT JUST FOR EACH [00:40:44] OTHER, BUT THE NEW CREATORS [00:40:46] COMING UP AROUND US BECAUSE THE [00:40:52] MORE WE CAN UNITE AND IMPROVE NOT ONLY WE ARE LEGITIMATE, BUT OUR AUDIENCES ARE RALLYING [00:40:56] AROUND US, WE WILL BE ABLE TO BREAK THROUGH THAT FRICTION. [00:41:01] >> FRICTION WITH HOLLYWOOD, BOY. >> WHERE DO WE BEGIN? [00:41:09] WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING CONTENT, [00:41:15] DISTRIBUTION IS ONE OF THE KEYS TO THE BUSINESS MODELS. [00:41:21] LIKE, HOW DO WE NOT ONLY REACH [00:41:23] AUDIENCES, BUT MAXIMIZE THAT [00:41:28] OPPORTUNITY. FOR A LONG TIME IT HAS BEEN A CLOSELY GUARDED INDUSTRY. WHAT ARE THE REASONS WHY WE [00:41:33] STARTED A YOUTUBE CHANNEL FROM A RURAL OHIO IS BECAUSE WE CANNOT [00:41:36] GET PAST THE GATES, THE BARRIER. IF IT WERE NOT FOR PROFIT -- [00:41:40] PLATFORMS LIKE YOUTUBE I WOULD NOT BE SITTING HERE SPEAKING TO YOU TODAY. [00:41:45] FOR US, THE FRICTION HAS BEEN [00:41:49] REALLY TWO SIDES COMING TOGETHER SLOWLY OVER A 20 YEAR PERIOD. [00:41:53] NOW, THERE IS A SYMBIOTIC SIDE TO IT. [00:41:55] YOU ARE SEEING NOT ONLY [00:41:59] ADVERTISERS MOVING TOWARDS US, [00:42:02] IT RALLYING AROUND YOUTUBE CREATORS. YOU ARE SEEING THIS IN CINEMAS. [00:42:07] YOU ARE SEEING THIS ON THE FILM SIDE OF THE BUSINESS. [00:42:13] I THINK THAT IS A GOOD WAY TO SAY IT. [00:42:18] THEY WANT TO UTILIZE OUR SKILL SETS, NOT ONLY OUR AUDIENCES, [00:42:22] BUT HOW WE DO THINGS. WE DO THINGS REALLY EFFICIENTLY. [00:42:29] FOR FIVE DOLLARS AND A STICK OF BUBBLEGUM, A YOUTUBE CONTENT [00:42:33] CREATOR CAN MAKE SOMETHING REALLY COOL. [00:42:35] THAT IS NOT HOW THEY HAVE DONE THINGS IN HOLLYWOOD, BUT THEY [00:42:38] ARE WAKING UP TO THAT NOW. >> MATT, WHAT IS ONE HURDLE YOU HAVE FACED? [00:42:44] FIRST AND FOREMOST -- FOREMOST, TAXES. BUT I ALWAYS SAY TAXES. [00:42:51] BASICALLY, CREATORS WANT TO KNOW HOW TO PROPERLY FILE THEIR TAXES. [00:42:55] BUT WE FALL BETWEEN SO MANY DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THAT A LOT [00:42:58] OF TIME CPAS AND ACCOUNTANTS [00:43:03] DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW HOW TO PROPERLY ADVISE YOUNG CREATORS [00:43:06] ON HOW TO PROPERLY FILE TAXES. [00:43:10] WHO IS YOUR AUDIENCE? [00:43:10] WHAT IS YOUR PRODUCT -- PRODUCT? [00:43:14] DO YOU SELL MURCH? YOU ARE GETTING PAID FROM GOOGLE, A DELAWARE COMPANY. [00:43:19] BUT YOU ARE SELLING MURCH NATIONWIDE. [00:43:22] DO YOU PAY STATE TAXES ON ALL -- AT ALL THOSE PLACES? [00:43:26] ARE YOU QUALIFIED AS AN EDUCATOR OR VIDEOGRAPHER? [00:43:30] THERE ARE SO MANY NUANCES ABOUT HOW CREATORS AND CREATOR LED [00:43:34] BUSINESSES HAVE TO FILE THEIR TAXES. WE ARE IN A GRAY AREA. [00:43:38] EVEN WHEN WE GO TO PROFESSIONALS ASKING, HOW DO I DO THIS? [00:43:42] A LOT OF TIMES THE INDUSTRY IS SO NEBULOUS, WE ARE NOT GETTING [00:43:45] DEFINITIVE ANSWERS BACK AND IT PUTS A LOT OF PEOPLE IN UNCERTAIN TERRITORY. [00:43:49] THE THING I WOULD SAY THIS TIME TO MIX IT UP IS, ACTUALLY, [00:43:53] PROTECTION OVER OUR IDENTITIES. AT THIS POINT, LIKE I MENTIONED [00:43:57] BEFORE, BECAUSE WE PUT SO MUCH OF WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE DO [00:44:01] ONLINE, A LOT OF TIMES WE ARE ON THE FRONT LINES OF BEING [00:44:04] DEEPFAKE OR OUR CONTENT BEING AI [00:44:07] SCAMMED IN A LOT OF PLACES. EARLIER THIS MONTH MY VOICE WAS [00:44:10] REPLICATED TO PROMOTE A RANDOM [00:44:15] GAME PRODUCT I HAD NEVER SEEN BEFORE. [00:44:19] RIGHT NOW THERE DOES NOT EXIST A [00:44:22] CLEAN WAY FOR ME TO SAY, TAKE THAT DOWN. THAT'S NOT ME. [00:44:28] MY AUDIENCE FOLLOWS UP AND SAYS, IS THIS YOU? I'M CONFUSED. [00:44:34] RIGHT NOW THE WAY MOST LAWS ARE WRITTEN IS YOU HAVE TO PROVE [00:44:37] SOME LEVEL OF FINANCIAL BURDEN [00:44:40] OR FINANCIAL LOSSES TO YOU AS A PERSON. IT IS REALLY HARD FOR ME TO [00:44:44] PROVE WHAT DOES NOT EXIST THERE. [00:44:48] THERE IS AUDIENCE DISTRESSED AND HESITATION. PEOPLE MAY HAVE FELT LIKE I MISLED THEM. [00:44:53] IT'S HARD TO QUANTIFY. THAT IS ONE OF THE WEIRD GAPS [00:44:56] CREATORS FALL INTO WHERE IT SHOULD BE PROTECTED. [00:44:59] PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DEFEND THEIR IDENTITY ONLINE. [00:45:03] RIGHT NOW, THE SYSTEMS ARE NOT BUILT IN A WAY THAT ALLOWS THAT [00:45:07] TO HAPPEN. >> TO YOUR TAXATION POINT, IT'S [00:45:10] NOT JUST CREATORS ON A HUGE SCALE FACING THAT. [00:45:17] IT IS MICRO INFLUENCERS GETTING PR IN THE MAIL NOT REALIZING [00:45:20] THAT BY GETTING THAT FREE BOX OF [00:45:23] MAKEUP PRODUCTS, THEY NEED TO PAY TAXES ON THAT AS WELL. [00:45:28] >> YES. AND THE OTHER SIDE IS WHEN YOU [00:45:29] THINK OF A CREATOR, YOU THINK [00:45:32] ABOUT THE TOP PEOPLE MAKING A LOT OF AD REVENUE, SEVEN [00:45:34] CHOCOLATE BARS IN TARGET OR [00:45:38] WALMART, RIGHT? [00:45:38] BUT BEING A CREATOR IS EVERYONE, [00:45:43] AT THIS POINT. IT IS THE MOM AND SHOP -- [00:45:46] MOM-AND-POP SHOP CREATING [00:45:49] CONTENT ON FACEBOOK TO PROMOTE THEIR NEW BOOKSTORE. [00:45:55] WE ARE ALL CREATORS INTO A GREATER OR LESSER DEGREE. [00:45:59] YES, PEOPLE LIKE US, A LOT OF [00:46:01] TIMES, THAT HAVE A PLATFORM AND A MEGAPHONE AREN'T LEADING TO CONVERSATIONS. [00:46:06] AGAIN, WHAT WE ARE SPEAKING ON [00:46:08] BEHALF OF IS AN ECONOMY THAT [00:46:11] REPRESENTS ALL SIZES AND SKILLS ACROSS AMERICA. [00:46:14] >> BEFORE I GET TO YOU, SHOW OF [00:46:18] HANDS, WHO ELSE HAS HAD A HIGH IMITATE THEIR CONTENT OR SOMEBODY TAKE IT AND TRY TO PASS [00:46:22] IT OFF? ALMOST EVERYONE. [00:46:26] SAGE, I'M CURIOUS. >> WHEN I GET TO YOUR NUMBER OF [00:46:30] SUBSCRIBERS, I WILL BE IN LINE. THAT'S THE GOAL. [00:46:39] >> I ACTUALLY IGNORE A LOT OF THINGS. [00:46:42] I NEED TO GO DEEPER INTO THE COMMENT SOMETIMES, BUT THEN YOU GET SUCKED IN. [00:46:48] FOR ME, THERE IS PRESSURE, RIGHT? [00:46:51] HOW WILL YOU GET OUT THERE? HOW WILL YOU GO VIRAL? [00:46:55] I PROBABLY SHOULD LEAN INTO THAT MORE. [00:46:57] SOMETIMES, YES, WITH THE TYPE OF QUESTIONS I ASKED, ETC.. [00:47:02] BUT THE PRIORITY FOR ME HAS BEEN MAINTAINING AUTHENTICITY. [00:47:05] I THINK THAT WE UNDERESTIMATE [00:47:09] HOW MUCH OUR AUDIENCE CAN SEE RIGHT THROUGH US. [00:47:12] AND CAN UNDERSTAND WHEN WE ARE [00:47:13] OUT THERE BEING REALLY GENUINE [00:47:16] AND CURIOUS, OR WHATEVER IT IS [00:47:19] IT THAT DRIVES OUR CONTENT, OR [00:47:21] JUST TRYING TO GET SOME [00:47:25] SOMETHING DONE QUICKLY, FOR THE DOLLARS. I MIGHT BE GROWING SLOWER [00:47:29] BECAUSE OF THAT. [00:47:32] FOR ME, IT'S A MARATHON, NOT A SPRINT. [00:47:37] BUT I HOPE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS AND GIVES SMALLER CREATORS A CHANCE. [00:47:41] AT SOME POINT, PEOPLE DID THAT FOR US, RIGHT? [00:47:45] THERE IS REAL, GENUINE DESIRE TO CONNECT WITH YOUR AUDIENCE IS [00:47:49] THE RIGHT WAY. [00:47:53] IN ORDER TO GROW YOUR CHANNEL AND OTHERS OUT THERE. [00:47:58] SOMETIMES IT SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE DOING THAT FOR CLICKS, TO BUILD [00:48:02] THE AUDIENCE. [00:48:02] YES, AND PEERED YOU ARE 8 -- [00:48:06] AND. YOU ARE A BEAUTIFUL EXAMPLE OF THAT AND HOW THIS IS A FAMILY BUSINESS AND YOU ARE [00:48:10] IT THE RIGHT WAY. [00:48:13] DID THE THUMBNAILS HELP? I DID NOT KNOW WHAT A THUMBNAIL [00:48:16] WAS AND THAT THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. REMEMBERING ALL THAT, THE [00:48:20] BUSINESS SIDE, WHILE REMAINING TRUE. YOU WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO [00:48:24] GIVE SMALLER CREATORS THE OPPORTUNITY. [00:48:26] >> WHAT IS ONE UNSEEN HURDLE YOU WANT LAWMAKERS AWARE OF? [00:48:31] >> MAYBE NOT UNSEEN, BUT NOT [00:48:33] TAKEN SERIOUSLY ENOUGH, I [00:48:36] CONSTANTLY THINK ABOUT THE [00:48:39] PRIVACY AND SAFETY. [00:48:42] FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE, I [00:48:46] WORRY ABOUT THE WAY NEWS SPREADS [00:48:48] ON PLATFORMS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT IMPACTS INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE. [00:48:54] I WORRY ABOUT HOW THINGS LIKE SKIP SLANDER CAN TAKE OFF AND PERSONALLY IMPACT SOMEONE. [00:49:06] MORE CAN BE DONE TO STOP OR MITIGATE THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT AFFECTS PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT EVEN CREATORS. [00:49:12] YOU COULD BE AT THE WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME AND SOMEBODY [00:49:15] FILMS YOU AND POSTED IT ON A PLATFORM IN THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, SOMETHING SPIRALS AND IT [00:49:19] CHANGES YOUR LIFE FOR THE WORSE AND YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. [00:49:24] JUST THE CONCEPT OF BEING ABLE TO FILM SOMEONE'S CHILDREN IN A PUBLIC SPACE AND POSTED. [00:49:29] THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH PARAMETERS AROUND STUFF LIKE THAT. I THINK ABOUT STUFF LIKE THAT [00:49:33] CONSTANTLY. PRIVACY, ESPECIALLY AS SOMEBODY [00:49:38] THAT LIVES IN CALIFORNIA, BUYING A HOME IN THE STATE OF [00:49:41] CALIFORNIA IF YOU ARE A PUBLIC FIGURE, GOOD LUCK. GOOD LUCK MAINTAINING PRIVACY. [00:49:48] IF YOU ARE RELATIVELY NOTE -- NEW TO DOING THIS AS A JOB WHO [00:49:52] WILL TELL YOU, DON'T PUT YOUR [00:49:54] HOUSE IN YOUR NAME, PUT IT IN A [00:49:57] TRUST SO THEY CAN FIND YOUR ADDRESS. [00:49:59] YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO NORMAL THINGS LIKE BUY A HOUSE, BUY A [00:50:03] CAR AND NOT WORRY ABOUT HAVING [00:50:06] YOUR HOUSE ON REDDIT OR A RANDOM [00:50:09] WEBSITE AND NOT WORRY ABOUT PEOPLE SENDING THINGS TO YOUR [00:50:14] HOME BECAUSE THEY LIKE THE WAY [00:50:18] YOU DO YOUR BROWSE? I THINK ABOUT BEING ABLE TO GO [00:50:22] TO THE DOCTOR WITHOUT SOMEONE GOING ONLINE AND SAYING THEY SAW YOU. [00:50:26] THAT'S A COMPLETE BREACH OF [00:50:30] SOMEBODY'S PRIVACY AND SAFETY. [00:50:34] TO THE VIEWER, YOU ARE NOT A REGULAR PERSON, BUT ALSO NOT REALLY A CELEBRITY. [00:50:40] THERE IS LIKE A MISSING SAFETY OR PRIVACY TRIP. [00:50:46] SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T THINK THIS PERSON IS ENTITLED TO SAFETY OR PRIVACY. [00:50:52] I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THINGS PUT IN TO PLACE TO MAKE THESE THINGS LAST COMMENT. [00:50:56] THEY ARE SO COMMON. SO MANY TIMES I AM SCROLLING ON [00:51:00] A PLATFORM AND I RANDOMLY SEE SOMEBODY'S ZILLOW LISTING OF THE [00:51:03] HOUSE THEY BOUGHT TWO HOURS AGO AND I'M LIKE, WHERE IN THE WORLD DID YOU FIND US? [00:51:09] AND WHY IS THE ENTIRE ADDRESS THERE, NO RAMIFICATIONS? [00:51:15] I DON'T HAVE KIDS, BUT I THINK ABOUT STUFF LIKE THAT. [00:51:18] HOW DO WE PUT MORE SAFETY MEASURES IN PLACE SO THEY ARE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF? [00:51:24] THEY ARE TECHNICALLY NOT CHILD ACTORS. THERE HAS ALREADY BEEN DECADES [00:51:28] OF LOBBYING AND RULEMAKING FOR THAT SPECIFICALLY, BUT NOT FOR [00:51:32] FAMILY BLOGGERS. [00:51:34] HOW DO YOU MAKE SURE CHILDREN ARE NOT EXPLOITED ONLINE? [00:51:38] SO MANY THINGS LIKE THAT ARE AT THE TOP OF THE LIST FOR ME. [00:51:41] DEFINITELY PRIVACY, SAFETY, INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY NOT BEING VIOLATED. [00:51:45] I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I HAVE HAD SOMEBODY LITERALLY [00:51:49] CREATE AN ENTIRE FAKE PROFILE OF ME. [00:51:52] THEY WILL GO THROUGH THE LIST OF PEOPLE THAT FOLLOW ME AND SAY, [00:51:56] HEY, YOU HAVE WON $500. CLICK THE LINK TO CLAIM YOUR PRIZE. [00:52:00] SOMEBODY WILL LITERALLY THINK IT IS LEGIT. I'M LIKE WOW, YOU ARE REALLY [00:52:04] SCAMMING PEOPLE. NOW THEY ARE DOING IT TO MY HUSBAND BECAUSE HE IS SOMEWHAT [00:52:07] IN THE PUBLIC EYE AS A COFOUNDER AND HAS STARTED CREATING CONTENT. [00:52:11] NOW THEY ARE IMPERSONATING HIM. [00:52:14] IT IS LIKE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY VIOLATION, SAFETY, PRIVACY, ALL [00:52:18] THESE REOCCURRING PROBLEMS. [00:52:20] BUT I DON'T THINK PEOPLE THINK TO CREED -- CONNECT THEM TO [00:52:24] CREATORS BECAUSE WE ARE PUBLIC FIGURES IN A DIFFERENT WAY AND [00:52:27] PERSONALLY, I THINK SOMETIMES IT'S LIKE, WHEN YOU PUT YOURSELF [00:52:30] OUT THERE ONLINE, THAT'S WHAT YOU DEAL WITH. [00:52:33] BUT IF IT STARTS TO AFFECT REAL PEOPLE, AND IT IS PUTTING [00:52:36] PEOPLE'S SAFETY IN JEOPARDY, PEOPLE'S SAFETY IN JEOPARDY, IT [00:52:39] SHOULD BE TAKEN A LOT MORE SERIOUSLY. [00:52:43] >> A LOT OF THE THINGS YOU LISTED ARE THINGS I HAVE HAD [00:52:46] MEMBERS OF CONGRESS SHARE WITH ME ABOUT CONCERNS THEY ARE [00:52:50] HAVING, IF THEY ARE HAVING A [00:52:52] DEEPFAKE MADE OF THEM, OR IF THERE ARE RISING ATTACKS AGAINST [00:52:56] LAWMAKERS, HAVING SOMEONE SHOW UP AND FILM THEM OUTSIDE THEIR [00:53:00] HOUSE. THESE ARE PUBLIC FIGURES OF A DIFFERENT TYPE THAT HAVE A COMMUNICATIONS TEAM. [00:53:05] TO OUR POINT ABOUT SMALLER CREATORS, NOT EVERYBODY HAS A [00:53:09] BUSINESS OR A PR PERSON ON THEIR TEAM THEY CAN TURN TO FOR HELP IN THOSE MOMENTS. [00:53:14] WE HAVE SEEN, CONSTANTLY, SMALL CREATORS FACE THAT TYPE OF THING [00:53:17] WHERE THERE PUBLIC INFORMATION IS EXPOSED. [00:53:22] >> THAT IS WHAT IS WORRYING FOR ME. [00:53:26] YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A [00:53:27] MAINSTREAM CREATOR TO EXPERIENCE [00:53:31] THESE THINGS. THIS HAPPENS TO PEOPLE WITH 20,000 FOLLOWERS. [00:53:36] STILL A GREAT THING TO BUILD. BUT IT IS GETTING WE ARE NOW. [00:53:41] >> IT IS REALLY EVERYONE. [00:53:46] TALK TO ME ABOUT ONE CHALLENGE YOU THINK IS UNIQUE TO YOUR [00:53:49] CREATOR JOURNEY THAT YOU WANT MEMBERS TO BE AWARE OF? [00:53:55] >> OURS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT [00:53:58] BECAUSE THE BUSINESS WAS ESTABLISHED FIRST AND IT COULD BE A FUN OUTLET FOR US TO SHARE [00:54:02] THE CULTURE OF LOUISIANA, WHICH WE LOVE TO DO, ACROSS THE WORLD. [00:54:06] I AGREE, THE PROTECTION OF YOUR [00:54:10] CONTENT IS VERY HARD. [00:54:13] WE HAVE TONS OF ACCOUNTS ON ANY [00:54:15] PLATFORM YOU PUT UP THAT USE OUR COPYRIGHTED LOGO, TRADEMARK [00:54:20] LOGO, ALL THOSE THINGS TOO. [00:54:22] IT'S A FRUSTRATING PROCESS, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT WHEN YOU ARE RUNNING [00:54:26] A FARM AND A BUSINESS TO MAKE [00:54:27] THE CONTENT, SO THEN TO HAVE [00:54:31] SOMEBODY COPY IT AND LIKELY MONETIZE ALL OF IT, THE PROCESS [00:54:34] TO HAVE THOSE THINGS REPORTED [00:54:36] AND TAKEN DOWN IS LENGTHY, AND A LOT OF TIMES, UNSUCCESSFUL. [00:54:41] IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO HAVE MORE THINGS IN PLACE THERE. [00:54:53] EN: I HAVE TWO THINGS. I WILL DO TWO REALLY QUICK. I WON'T TAKE MUCH TIME. [00:54:59] THE FIRST ISSUE WE HAVE RUN [00:55:00] INTO, AND CONTINUE TO, IS [00:55:04] GATEKEEPERS OF THE INDUSTRY IN [00:55:08] DIFFERENT PLATFORMS YOU DISTRIBUTE CONTENT OFF OF DICTATING YOUR VALUE AS A CREATOR. [00:55:13] I FEEL LIKE WE ARE AT A PLACE NOW WHERE YOU GO BACK TO THE [00:55:17] CONTROL ISSUE. [00:55:20] HAVING CONTROL OF WHERE YOU DISTRIBUTE AND RELEASE YOUR CONTENT DETERMINES THE KIND OF PAYOUT YOU RECEIVE. [00:55:25] THE MONETIZATION OF YOUR CONTENT IS A BIG DEAL. [00:55:31] NOT BEING PUSHED INTO A CORNER [00:55:33] AND TOLD WHAT YOUR VALUE IS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK A LOT OF [00:55:38] CREATORS, PROBABLY ON THIS PANEL, HAVE EXPERIENCED. [00:55:42] ANOTHER CREATORS OF ALL SCALE, [00:55:44] SMALL AND BIG, HAVE EXPERIENCED. [00:55:49] MORE IMPORTANTLY, I THINK WE ARE [00:55:53] IN THE MIDDLE OF A REVOLUTION. [00:55:55] THE CONTENT, CULTURE, AND [00:56:00] INFLUENCE MANUFACTURING IS THE PRODUCT WE MAKE HERE IN THE [00:56:04] U.S.. WE MAY CONTENT. WE MAKE CULTURE. [00:56:08] THEN WE EXPORT THE INFLUENCE. THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR [00:56:11] POLICYMAKERS IS, WHY IS IT THAT [00:56:15] NO ONE ON THE CREATOR SIDE HAS A REAL SEAT AT THE TABLE? [00:56:19] ONCE YOU PUT A CREATOR AT THE [00:56:22] TABLE, THEN POLICIES FIT AROUND A CREATOR'S NEEDS. [00:56:26] US BEING HERE IS CELEBRATORY. [00:56:30] BUT, WHEN WE ARE OPERATING AT [00:56:32] SCALE AND WE INFLUENCE THE WORLD, CONGRESS, PRODUCTS BEING [00:56:36] SOLD, I THINK THAT CREATORS, [00:56:40] LIKE US AND THE ONES BEING [00:56:42] ACKNOWLEDGED THAT ARE NOT HERE NEEDED THE PROTECTION AND [00:56:46] POLICIES IN PLACE, BUT THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS IF CREATORS [00:56:49] HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE. [00:56:52] THESE ARE THINGS THAT NEED ADDRESSING BY POLICYMAKERS. [00:56:56] UNTIL WE ARE INCLUDED, I DON'T [00:56:58] SEE HOW WE ACCOMPLISH POLICIES [00:57:01] ACTUALLY THERE TO HELP US AND HELP THE GENERATIONS THAT COME [00:57:04] BEHIND US PRACTICE GOOD BUSINESS. [00:57:08] >> TO THAT POINT, CONGRESS IS NOT EXACTLY AT THE FOREFRONT OF THE CREATIVE SPACE. [00:57:13] WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT CREATORS FOR TWO DECADES. [00:57:17] JUST LAUNCHING THE SENATE CAUCUS HERE TODAY. [00:57:20] NOW, WITH AN OPPORTUNITY LIKE THIS, A DAY LIKE TODAY WHEN YOU [00:57:23] HAVE THAT SEAT AT THE TABLE, [00:57:27] KNOWING CONGRESS DOES NOT ACT [00:57:29] QUICKLY, NECESSARILY, NO OFFENSE TO THE SENATORS STILL IN THE [00:57:32] ROOM, WHAT IS ONE PRIORITY THAT [00:57:37] IF YOU WERE TO ADDRESS THE WHOLE [00:57:39] CAUCUS HERE TODAY YOU WOULD LIKE [00:57:43] THE SENATE, HOUSE, OR BOTH TO [00:57:44] TAKE ACTION ON THAT YOU THINK [00:57:48] WOULD HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT ON YOUR WORK? [00:57:51] >> OK, I AM THE PARTNER AND CEO OF THE NETWORK. [00:57:56] I REPRESENT A PROMINENT BLACK CREATOR. [00:57:59] I THINK WE NEED PROTECTIONS FOR [00:58:03] ALL CREATORS AND FOR THE [00:58:07] UNDERSERVED AND UNDERPRIVILEGED. WE FACE CHALLENGES AT OUR [00:58:11] NETWORK THAT I DO NOT THINK [00:58:12] OTHER PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT FACE [00:58:15] THE SAME HEADWINDS BECAUSE OF [00:58:18] RACE AND OTHER ELEMENTS, THEY DON'T EXPERIENCE. [00:58:22] AND THEY DON'T NEED TO COMBAT. [00:58:26] I THINK WE NEED TO START PUTTING THE RIGHT POLICIES IN PLACE TO [00:58:29] PROTECT CREATORS SO OUR IP, WHAT [00:58:33] IT IS RELEASED, HOUSE [00:58:35] PROTECTIONS SO WE DON'T USE A ONE SHOE FITS ALL POLICY FOR [00:58:39] JOHN NEXT DOOR WHO IS LIVE [00:58:43] STREAMING FROM HIS BASEMENT AND HAS FIVE PEOPLE WATCHING HIS LIFESTREAM VERSUS A CREATOR THAT [00:58:47] MIGHT HAVE 20 MILLION PLUS SUBSCRIBERS. [00:58:51] EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE SITUATIONAL. WE NEED TO BE NIMBLE. [00:58:58] LAWMAKERS UNDERSTAND -- NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT HOW WE MOVE [00:59:01] NIMBLY AND CREATE INFLUENCE [00:59:04] CANNOT BE A ONE-WAY DOOR. [00:59:07] POLICYMAKERS CANNOT USE US AND OUR PLATFORMS WHEN THEY NEED US [00:59:12] AND NOT DELIVER PROTECTIONS FOR US WHEN THEY DON'T NEED US. [00:59:15] THAT IS THE ONLY WAY WE WILL BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN AND CONTINUE TO [00:59:19] GROW OUR BUSINESSES. [00:59:21] >> AND WE HAVE SEEN CAMPAIGNS AND CANDIDATES INCREASINGLY [00:59:24] TRYING TO WORK WITH CURATORS AND [00:59:28] BE CREATORS THEMSELVES AS WELL, REALIZING THAT IS NOT WHAT IT TAKES TO BREAK THROUGH. [00:59:32] MATT, I'M CURIOUS. YOU HAVE BEEN AT THE FOREFRONT OF SOME LOBBYING EFFORTS AT THE [00:59:36] HELP -- ON THE HILL. THERE IS NOT EVEN A SURE DEFINITION OF WHAT A CREATOR IS NOW. [00:59:41] ALL OF YOU HAVE INCREDIBLY DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS AND BUSINESSES. [00:59:45] WHAT ARE THE CHALLENGES OF THAT WHEN IT COMES TO NOW TRYING TO [00:59:49] PUSH FOR POLICY AROUND THE CREATIVE SPACE? [00:59:56] -- YEAR OR TWO YEARS LEARNING THIS WORLD, SO MUCH DEPENDS ON DEFINITIONS. [01:00:01] BECAUSE IF YOU GET THE [01:00:02] DEFINITIONS RIGHT, GREAT, THAT [01:00:06] POLICY IS GOING TO HELP THE WHOLE INDUSTRY THRIVE AND YOU [01:00:09] WILL NOT HAVE TO COME BACK AND RE-LEGISLATE IT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. [01:00:13] BUT IF YOU GET THE DEFINITIONS [01:00:16] WRONG, SUDDENLY CATASTROPHIC INFLUENCES CAN HAPPEN. [01:00:20] I THINK RIGHT NOW WHEN IT COMES TO DEFINING A CREATOR, THAT IS HARD. [01:00:25] I AGREE THAT IS ONE OF THE [01:00:26] BIGGEST PROBLEMS AND WHAT I [01:00:30] WOULD HOPE THROUGH THESE CONVERSATIONS WE CAN CARVE OFF. [01:00:34] A CREATOR IS EVERYONE FROM A PERSON DOING AN INSTAGRAM POST FROM THE BASEMENT OF THEIR [01:00:38] FAVORITE FOOD ITEM WITH A LINK IN THE DESCRIPTION OF CLINK -- [01:00:42] CLICK ON MY AFFILIATE LINK, TO [01:00:45] SOME CREATORS OPERATING AT A SCALE LARGER THAN A LOT OF MOVIE STUDIOS. [01:00:49] IT IS HARD TO BELIEVE AN UMBRELLA POLICY THAT WORKS FOR [01:00:52] ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT TEARS. [01:00:56] SO I THINK THAT IDEA OF WORKING [01:00:57] TOGETHER HAND-IN-HAND WITH CREATORS OR THROUGH THE HOUSE [01:01:01] CAUCUS, WE ARE ABLE TO START [01:01:05] DEFINING THE SPACE BETTER SO THAT WAY WHEN LAWMAKERS ARE [01:01:08] PRESENTED WITH QUESTIONS AROUND [01:01:09] SHOULD WE BAN TIKTOK, WHAT ABOUT [01:01:13] SOCIAL MEDIA FOR 16-YEAR-OLDS, WE ARE ABLE TO HAVE THESE [01:01:16] CONVERSATIONS AND APPROACH THIS [01:01:19] ECOSYSTEM WITH A SCALPEL RATHER THAN A SLEDGEHAMMER. [01:01:22] TO HELP THESE SMALL BUSINESSES THRIVE RATHER THAN CUTTING OFF [01:01:26] THOUSANDS AS THEY ARE GETTING THEIR START. [01:01:27] >> I WANT TO DO A QUICK RAPID [01:01:31] FIRE SINCE WE ARE AT TIME TO GIVE EVERYONE A LAST WORD. [01:01:34] FILL IN THE BLANK AND WE WILL DO THESE QUICK SOUND BITE STYLE. [01:01:38] CREATORS ARE? MARK [01:01:40] >> WUH>>>> CREATORS ARE ENTREPRR [01:01:44] WE'RE, WE'RE HERE WORKING [01:01:45] EVERY SINGLE DAY TO DELIVEGHGHE [01:01:48] S S ANNTUEUE [01:01:53] O O [01:01:54] ANOROR THE PEOATAT ARE COMING U [01:01:58] S S TH [01:02:00] THTHERA WHOLE GROUP OF [01:02:02] TAKE THE WOR'S [01:02:08] >> MATT? >> HE TOOK MY ANSWERS CREATORS OR BUSINESSES. [01:02:15] YOU, WE ARE ALL CREATORS. [01:02:18] >> PAGE? >> COURAGEOUS. [01:02:21] I THINK IT DOES TAKE SOME COURAGE TO PUT YOURSELF OUT [01:02:24] THERE, AND YOU PUSHED THROUGH THE COURAGE. [01:02:27] AND ALSO THROUGH THE NEW FRONTIER. EVEN THOUGH YOU WERE THERE AT THE BEGINNING. [01:02:32] TRULY THE NEW FRONTIER. AND WE JUST HAVE TO GO BACK TO [01:02:36] EVERY ELECTION CYCLE. ESPECIALLY THE LAST ONE IN 2024. [01:02:40] WHAT IS COMING UP IN 2026. [01:02:43] ELECTIONS HAVE COMPLETELY TURNED [01:02:46] BASED ON THE INTERNET, BASED ON STREAMERS, ON CREATORS. [01:02:49] I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO REALIZE THIS ISN'T GOING [01:02:53] ANYWHERE, WE KNOW THAT. BUT LEVERAGE IT. [01:02:57] LITERALLY THE FATE TO THE [01:02:59] SUCCESS OF OUR COUNTRY, IT IS IN OUR HANDS. [01:03:02] >> CREATORS ARE CULTURAL [01:03:08] NARRATIVE SHAPERS. I'M SO GLAD YOU MENTIONED THE [01:03:11] ISSUES THAT AS A BLACK CREATOR [01:03:13] ON THE PLATFORM, THERE ARE SO [01:03:15] MANY THINGS MY PEERS THAT EVEN STARTED WHEN I DID DO NOT SHARE [01:03:19] THE SAME EXPERIENCE. AND VICE VERSA. [01:03:22] THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEST TO OR RELATE TO. [01:03:26] ONE THING I KNOW IS SOCIAL MEDIA [01:03:29] HAS LITERALLY GIVEN ME A VOICE AND A CAMERA TO BE ABLE TO TALK [01:03:31] ABOUT THINGS AND PUT A PART OF [01:03:35] MY CULTURE ON THE MAP THAT THOSE [01:03:38] OF US IN THE INDUSTRY WOULD HAVE STOLEN OR PRETENDED THEY DID IT [01:03:42] FIRST, AND I'M GLAD THAT NOW THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE ON [01:03:45] THESE PLATFORMS THAT LOOK LIKE ME THAT CAN SAY THIS IS WHERE [01:03:48] THIS TREND CAME FROM, THIS IS [01:03:51] WHERE THIS COLLOQUIALISM COMES FROM, AND I LOVE THAT. I THINK IN SO MANY DIFFERENT [01:03:55] WAYS, THAT IS WHAT BLACK CULTURE [01:03:58] IS, BUT NOW PEOPLE ARE SEEING THOSE PEOPLE WHO SHAPED THOSE [01:04:02] NARRATIVES THEMSELVES DOING IT IN REAL TIME. [01:04:08] >> AVERY? [01:04:08] >> ALSO FOR US, BUSINESS, [01:04:13] MULTI-GENERAL FASHION -- MULTIGENERATIONAL FAMILY BUSINESS, OUR WAY OF LIFE WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD. [01:04:19] >> WHY DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS TO ME? >> YOU CHOSE TO SIT OVER HERE. [01:04:24] >> CREATORS ARE THE FUTURE OF [01:04:28] OUR ECONOMY. [01:04:32] CREATORS ARE GOING TO DETERMINE IF THE ECONOMY SUCCEEDS OR FAILS. [01:04:37] SO THAT MEANS THE POLICIES [01:04:38] AROUND CREATORS ARE GOING TO [01:04:42] DETERMINE IF THE ECONOMY SUCCEEDS OR FAILS. [01:04:47] >> ON THAT NOTE, EVERYONE JOIN ME IN LEADING THIS AMAZING PANEL. [01:04:51] [APPLAUSE] [01:05:01] >> AFTER A LOOK AT THE NEWS AND [01:05:02] VIEWER CALLS, WE WILL WELCOME [01:05:05] NEIL CHILSON, FORMER FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION OR AND ACTING [01:05:09] CHIEF TECHNOLOGIST FOR THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TO THE SHOW. HE WILL DISCUSS OVERSIGHT OF THE [01:05:12] BURGEONING AI INDUSTRY. AND LATER, UNIVERSITY OF [01:05:16] BALTIMORE SCHOOL OF LAW PROFESSOR KIMBERLY WHALEY WILL [01:05:20] JOIN US TO TALK ABOUT VOTING RIGHTS AND THE UPCOMING MIDTERM ELECTIONS. [01:05:25] OUR SHOW STARTS TOMORROW AND EVERY DAY AT 7:00 A.M. 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