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[00:00:00] Hello everyone, I'm Legislator Niu Xuting. Here,
[00:00:04] I strongly recommend the new Tree People's Great Head, who, as in the past, will bring you international
[00:00:08] and domestic analysis of the most professional shocking situations from Monday to Friday.
[00:00:12] Welcome our old friends to continue watching, and welcome our
[00:00:16] new friends to participate in the discussion.
[00:03:02] Naturally, the fire hasn't stopped, so who exactly made the decision on July 4th
[00:03:05] that if the problem was below 20%, there was no need to lower the price?
[00:03:09] Who decided this standard, and why were representatives from all parties
[00:03:13] present at the entire meeting? To be honest, this 20%
[00:03:17] was decided by him. And
[00:03:21] yesterday's 17-night expert meeting records were also revealed. The key
[00:03:25] point is that Xu Fu, the director of the Food Safety Office, stated at the meeting that a complete
[00:03:29] recall was implemented.
[00:09:12] How difficult was it? How did Chen Qi-mai scold Du You when he was a legislator?
[00:09:16] But both of them are now in this situation, and their bargaining chips are limited,
[00:09:20] so I think they should cherish them
[00:09:36] news you don't know, and guest lineups you can't see on other channels.
[00:09:40] 来 宾 阵 容 。
[00:13:56] There is already one person arranged to say something like this,
[00:13:59] and then no matter what others say,
[00:14:03] the conclusion is that it's good to follow your calculation.
[00:15:25] The oil problem is not necessarily only added to salad
[00:15:29] oil.
[00:15:30] ,
[00:15:34] The final product is not necessarily salad oil, it could be other food. So, what you mean is,
[00:17:37] on the same day, the news release came out, and the whole country
[00:17:41] did it this way.
[00:18:05] Just do it this way. Internally.
[00:18:37] conceal if they could. In fact, Taitang had already tested it for us in May, and Taitang had already made recommendations to us in May.
[00:18:41] But he still brought it up.
[00:18:42] In May, he still didn't report it.
[00:18:46] So until that time, the middle-aged did not
[00:18:50] report. They would deceive if they could
[00:18:52] and
[00:19:00] decision. So what is this now?
[00:19:02] ?
[00:23:20] So netizens questioned why a few experts and officials, plus three
[00:23:24] industry players, held a meeting and could make a decision that
[00:23:27] if it's below 20%, there's no need to remove it from shelves, just keep eating and selling it?
[00:23:31] 决 定 呢 ?
[00:23:34] The government demands that any product that has been used
[00:23:38] must be completely removed from shelves. All right, so now this kind of material is called an internationally recognized
[00:23:42] Class 1 carcinogen, so why is there room for discussion? Or
[00:23:46] even if the experts haven't reached a consensus, officials can make the final decision themselves.
[00:24:20] there is a huge discrepancy. Jiang Zhigang also said that
[00:24:23] the inspection data for this material has a huge discrepancy,
[00:24:27] and it even says that the crude oil from Brazil
[00:24:31] may have been detected at 10 to 300
[00:24:34] ppb. So what does that mean? At that time, you
[00:24:38] didn't even know whether only 8
[00:24:41] ppb was detected, and then it exceeded the standard by four
[00:24:45] times for this oil. What about the others? Will there be
[00:24:49] a next batch of 15 or 20,
[00:24:53] or 30? Didn't Taitang exceed the standard by seven times? So at that time, the entire
[00:24:56] scope of contamination of the parent body was also uncertain, and even the
[00:25:00] upper limit of concentration was uncertain. When you made the decision first,
[00:25:04] we used 8 to calculate 20%. This is extremely
[00:25:07] absurd and completely lacks a comprehensive scientific evaluation. And the
[00:25:11] second thing is, which 20% is this
[00:25:14] 20%? They themselves don't even know. Expert G
[00:25:18] talked about packaged food.
[00:25:21] Expert A said the proportion of problem oil was 20%.
[00:25:25] Jiang finally said that 20% of the product problem oil.
[00:25:31] This is a completely different concept. There are at least three to four definitions of 20%. Is it the total quantity of the finished product, or the entirety of the product, or the weight of the problem product from the middle age, or the proportion of all used in the middle age? We don't know any of these.
[00:25:47] So even in the recording, they
[00:25:50] knew it, but they still rashly set the 20% standard.
[00:25:53] No wonder after the incident, they were condemned across Taiwan, and the Ministry of Health and Welfare
[00:25:57] itself had to withdraw the decision. Because during the meeting,
[00:26:01] everyone didn't know this.
[00:26:11] Expert B said we need to look at this
[00:26:14] KP time. Expert C said 25%.
[00:26:17] Expert G said 31, Expert A said 20%.
[00:26:21] Expert E objected, saying no, we need to consider it, and there will be others.
[00:26:28] As a result, they directly decided on 20%.
[00:26:33] So is it a so-called unanimous expert decision? No, it's
[00:26:36] the decision made by the Democratic Progressive Party itself. This is not an expert
[00:26:40] consensus. The Democratic Progressive Party packaged its own decision
[00:26:44] as a joint decision of scientists. It's completely absurd.
[00:26:47] The Executive Yuan even said that this was based on scientific standards.
[00:26:51] So is the Democratic Progressive Party itself science? There was no expert
[00:26:55] consensus, and no expert decision. In the end, it was the Democratic Progressive
[00:26:59] Party's own decision. So why did they... Expert C said that if they fully investigate, it will never end, and night markets are difficult to investigate. The hospital also said that this will go to the third and fourth levels. Expert F said that delisting is difficult, and it is easy for large businesses to manage, but it is difficult for restaurants to implement.
[00:27:30] So we asked, is 20%
[00:27:32] the limit that human health can withstand, or is it the limit that the government
[00:27:36] can tolerate? It says above that tracing
[00:27:40] will be endless. Is this science? Xu Fu said it would involve
[00:27:44] the third and fourth levels. Is this medicine? Is it toxicology?
[00:27:48] Night markets are hard to trace, difficult to implement,
[00:27:51] and difficult to remove from shelves. Is this medicine or science?
[00:27:55] No, it's not. They are just administrative considerations. To put it bluntly,
[00:27:59] what is it? It's that this group of people act.
[00:28:32] And fifth, the Minister of Health and Welfare initially stated unequivocally
[00:28:36] that during the second stage, the middle-aged were not present. This has now been proven to be a lie,
[00:28:40] so he lied in the parliamentary hall. Now he can only claim
[00:28:44] that the joint venture did not speak in the latter half. The point is not whether they spoke or not.
[00:28:48] This company, which is currently being investigated by the government
[00:28:51] and whose products have been returned, why can they fully participate in
[00:28:55] the expert meeting that determines the scope of product delisting?
[00:28:59] And if a major food safety decision
[00:29:03] has been discussed for a month, and everyone is also chasing the content of this meeting,
[00:29:07] the highest authority doesn't even know who
[00:29:10] sat in the meeting room. Then why should the people trust
[00:29:14] your grasp of information in other areas, or
[00:29:17] your management capabilities? And the entire
[00:29:21] meeting treated the joint venture with extreme favor. Now, the green camp
[00:29:24] always says, why do you dare to scold Taitang but not the joint venture? Why do you dare to scold the central government but not the joint venture? It's laughable. Of course, we will still scold the joint venture.
[00:29:28] 中 联 , 笑 死 中 联 我 们 当 然 照 样 骂 ,
[00:30:32] First, it must be a local person, and it is only open to university students and teachers.
[00:30:36] Xu Jiaqing's son wanted to participate at the time, but he did not meet the qualifications.
[00:30:40] Later, Xu Jiaqing directly let the Qiao Committee and the Sea Patrol Administration
[00:30:44] co-organize a "Qiao Youth Dongsha Experience Camp", expanding
[00:30:48] the qualifications so that overseas Chinese students under 18 years old could participate.
[00:30:52] It was rumored that after Xu Jiaqing's son visited Dongsha,
[00:30:55] the Qiao Committee never again organized such an event for overseas Chinese to participate in.
[00:30:59] 的 。