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[00:00:00] they, of course, influenced the political
[00:00:04] discourse, in general, and very much interfered, because, as a rule,
[00:00:07] these people of limited intelligence, they
[00:00:10] believe that somewhere someone is betraying, the fifth-sixth
[00:00:14] column, that it is necessary to squeeze, press, finally,
[00:00:17] well, deal with Ukraine,
[00:00:20] the authorities will perfectly understand that these populists, these
[00:00:24] loudmouths interfere a lot, because they cast a shadow on the authorities
[00:00:27] themselves, if there is a traitor,
[00:01:01] first of all, to say that they are more likely to be traitors than
[00:01:04] anyone else, because there is no opposition left in Russia,
[00:01:08] neither liberal nor any other,
[00:01:11] yes, everyone, everyone is a foreign agent or a patriot, it's divided into two
[00:01:14] camps, everything is divided, so
[00:01:17] they, of course, will bring some madness,
[00:01:21] but the authorities will have to react, how do they react, for example,
[00:01:24] with, let's say, leaders of public
[00:01:27] opinion, who are called Z-patriots, yes?
[00:01:30] Some are imprisoned, sanctions are imposed against some, some are
[00:01:34] appointed foreign agents, they also flashed
[00:01:38] very strongly, interfered very strongly. Speaking about which
[00:01:41] country Russians will wake up in after September 20th, it is clear that September
[00:01:45] 20th is a very conditional date, but nevertheless many
[00:01:48] expect something, what
[00:01:51] can really happen, what
[00:01:54] will the authorities start doing, what will this new State
[00:01:57] Duma, the military State Duma,
[00:02:01] adopt?
[00:02:04] Well, most likely it will just enter a mode of even more
[00:02:07] insane furious print, I
[00:02:11] think, although we still need to
[00:02:14] take into account that
[00:02:15] self-awareness
[00:02:19] in the general State Duma may exist, because, well,
[00:02:22] as it was in 1917, when
[00:02:25] still when
[00:02:29] the state.
[00:03:14] Russia intends to hold elections in the occupied territories of
[00:03:18] Ukraine. This refers to annexed Crimea, as well as parts of
[00:03:22] Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions, which
[00:03:25] Moscow has declared part of Russia's territory. Ukraine and
[00:03:29] most countries in the world do not agree with this and consider the holding of
[00:03:33] Russian elections there illegal. More on this from Alexey
[00:03:36] Prodayvoda. In the occupied territory of four
[00:03:40] Ukrainian regions, which Russia included in its
[00:03:43] Constitution, elections to the State Duma will be held
[00:03:45] for the first time, in annexed Crimea for the third time. In
[00:03:49] these regions, Russian authorities formed 11
[00:03:52] single-mandate constituencies, three on the peninsula, one in
[00:03:55] Sevastopol, three in Donetsk region, two in Luhansk, and
[00:03:58] one each in Kherson. In the Ukrainian
[00:04:02] lands seized in 2022, Russia
[00:04:06] has already held elections unrecognized by the international community.
[00:04:08] In 2023, local elections were held
[00:04:11] there, and a year later, presidential elections.
[00:04:15] If we take the previous local elections, or the elections
[00:04:19] for Putin, by Putin, or the referendum, this
[00:04:22] pseudo-referendum, they ran through courtyards with ballot boxes
[00:04:26] and forced people at gunpoint, well, some illusion.
[00:04:30] Such a mass turnout for this whole
[00:04:33] thing was still created, now they don't even bother, even according to our insiders, there's no
[00:04:37] plan to create such a picture there,
[00:04:41] because everyone understands that it's just teasing the geese, people, people are angry,
[00:04:45] so on the contrary, it's the opposite story here,
[00:04:48] the fewer people who come to the elections, the more ballots in the hands
[00:04:51] of the occupation administration, to put them with the necessary
[00:04:55] checkmark. It is noteworthy that in the regional list
[00:04:58] of candidates... Russia, in the four occupied
[00:05:01] Ukrainian regions, Pushilin, Pasechnik,
[00:05:05] Balitsky and Saldo are absent, that is, those whom the Kremlin at one
[00:05:08] time appointed to govern these territories, United Russia
[00:05:11] candidates.
[00:06:12] all confirmed in one voice that there is zero work, zero
[00:06:16] information campaign, zero work
[00:06:19] with voters at the local, at
[00:06:23] the local level there, also zero,
[00:06:26] absolutely no preparation of polling stations, any
[00:06:30] creation of any groups, notification, observer
[00:06:33] groups, none of this exists, no work with law enforcement agencies, which
[00:06:36] there, for example, could organize the security of the
[00:06:40] elections, even that is not happening.
[00:06:42] Nothing. The fact that these elections are taking place in wartime conditions in
[00:06:46] occupied territories is felt more than
[00:06:49] ever before. This summer, the Armed Forces regularly struck
[00:06:52] rear areas, cutting off logistics. In large cities, there are serious
[00:06:56] interruptions in electricity, communications and water supply, and an acute
[00:06:59] shortage of gasoline. All this affects electoral
[00:07:03] sentiments. Russians who came to occupied Crimea and voted
[00:07:06] for the pro-government force. They specifically
[00:07:09] voted for security. Now security. by the current
[00:07:13] occupation authorities is not guaranteed, conditionally one can already say that there is a large
[00:07:17] outflow of Russians from the territory of temporarily occupied
[00:07:20] Crimea, and therefore those loyal ones who were before,
[00:07:24] they cannot be relied upon, because they are practically no longer in
[00:07:28] occupied Crimea. The Russian Central Election Commission reports
[00:07:31] 5.5 million voters in Crimea in partially
[00:07:34] occupied regions, however, these data cannot be objectively
[00:07:38] verified. The Ukrainian experts we interviewed believe that in
[00:07:41] the occupied...
[00:08:27] - experts believe: any expression of will that Russia
[00:08:31] conducts in the occupied Ukrainian territories will not be recognized
[00:08:35] by Western countries, the Ukrainian authorities urge their citizens in
[00:08:38] the occupation not to participate
[00:08:39] in this. currently
[00:08:43] Ukraine.
[00:08:46] The Russian State Duma was not always what we are used to.
[00:08:50] Before, they argued in it, there were indeed debates, including
[00:08:53] there, they could vote against the Kremlin's
[00:08:57] decision, which was handed down. As
[00:09:00] chairman of the state, I propose to deprive
[00:09:03] Deputy Lysenko of the floor until the end
[00:09:05] of the session.
[00:09:12] The Russian parliament in the mid-nineties was very colorful, with nationalists and
[00:09:16] communists sitting in it, with one request to Yeltsin, that he
[00:09:20] immediately resign. Supporters of the war in Chechnya and
[00:09:23] supporters of its immediate cessation. It is necessary
[00:09:27] to negotiate, those who want to seize Crimea and
[00:09:30] opponents of such a decision. The state of Ukraine, where when? In
[00:09:33] those years, the State Duma really argued, and the result of these arguments was not
[00:09:37] always known in advance. Show the result.
[00:09:40] 19 years pass.
[00:10:25] in Moscow, the so-called DNR and LNR. The State Duma ratifies
[00:10:29] treaties with them. Everyone who was in the State Duma that day supported this
[00:10:32] decision. Against - zero, abstained
[00:10:36] zero. Deputies greet the result standing. The State Duma
[00:10:39] itself called the vote unanimous. Two days later,
[00:10:43] Russia begins a full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
[00:10:47] In the autumn, deputies vote for the annexation of four more
[00:10:50] occupied Ukrainian regions. And again, not
[00:10:53] a single vote against. Show the
[00:10:57] voting result. 1995,
[00:11:00] 2014, 2022.
[00:11:03] First, in the Russian parliament, dozens of different political forces,
[00:11:07] a real conflict, then a few dissenters.
[00:11:11] In the end, not a single one. How
[00:11:13] did the State Duma become like this?
[00:11:17] This story should start in 1999.
[00:11:20] Vladimir Putin is still
[00:11:23] prime minister.
[00:11:28] The Kremlin, before the parliamentary elections, creates the Unity bloc, in
[00:11:32] Unity is our strength, the interregional movement
[00:11:34] Unity, number 14 on the ballot paper. Its public
[00:11:38] leader becomes Sergei Shoigu. The task is not
[00:11:41] to allow another party of power to win, Fatherland All
[00:11:44] Russia, Yevgeny Primakov, Yury Luzhkov and Mintimer
[00:11:47] Shaimiev. Believe only
[00:11:50] in deeds. But after the elections, no single party still
[00:11:54] controls the Duma. The largest factions are the CPRF, Unity has
[00:11:57] 73 deputies, the parliament is represented by Yabloko,
[00:12:01] SPS, Fatherland All Russia, Zhirinovsky's Bloc, and the Kremlin
[00:12:04] finds the first way to gather a manageable majority.
[00:12:08] The government does not intend to divide the deputy corps into
[00:12:12] its own and others'. In January 2000,
[00:12:15] Unity agrees with the communists and other deputy
[00:12:18] groups on the division of leadership posts.
[00:12:22] A real conspiracy is going on.
[00:12:55] controlling parliament begins not through one huge party, but
[00:12:59] through agreements with those who formally remain
[00:13:02] opposition. Please
[00:13:03] vote.
[00:13:08] Gennady Nikolaevich, I congratulate you and ask you to take your rightful
[00:13:12] place.
[00:13:15] But soon the need to negotiate almost
[00:13:18] disappears. Not long ago they fought each
[00:13:21] other, now they unite. In 2001,
[00:13:25] Unity, Fatherland All Russia create a party that
[00:13:29] is named United Russia. In one
[00:13:32] political structure are federal officials,
[00:13:35] governors and regional elites. I am for the president,
[00:13:39] which means for United Russia. Together with the president,
[00:13:42] choose United Russia. In the 2003 elections, this
[00:13:46] system first shows a result. United Russia -
[00:13:50] 367, 36.5.
[00:13:53] Yabloko and SPS do not overcome the five percent barrier
[00:13:57] and do not enter the Duma. I believe that such a Duma is very
[00:14:00] dangerous for millions of Russian citizens. United
[00:14:04] Russia gets the largest faction, and by joining
[00:14:08] elected single-mandate deputies and deputies from other groups,
[00:14:11] soon gathers about 300 mandates, 2/3
[00:14:14] of the Duma. The main conclusions are that this is another
[00:14:17] step in strengthening democracy in the Russian
[00:14:20] Federation. The OSCE, based on the results of these elections,
[00:14:24] wrote: on the property of United Russia, the use of
[00:14:27] administrative resources and the de facto blurring of the line
[00:14:30] between the state and the ruling party.
[00:14:34] Boris Gryzlov becomes chairman of the Duma. Later his words
[00:14:38] will be turned into the famous phrase "Parliament is not a place for
[00:14:41] discussions." Gryzlov literally said otherwise, that the Duma
[00:14:45] is not the platform where political battles should be
[00:14:48] held. But this phrase conveys the direction of
[00:14:52] parliamentary change quite accurately.
[00:14:55] Russia,
[00:14:57] Russia,
[00:14:59] Russia,
[00:15:04] now the Kremlin is changing the very system through which deputies
[00:15:07] enter parliament, requirements for political parties
[00:15:10] are tightened, electoral blocs are banned, the threshold
[00:15:14] is raised from 5 to 7%, single-mandate constituencies
[00:15:18] are abolished.
[00:15:21] In the 2007 elections, all 450
[00:15:25] seats are for the first time distributed only by
[00:15:28] party lists, for a deputy this is a fundamental
[00:15:32] change, to be in the Duma again, it is now more important for him to
[00:15:35] maintain loyalty to the party leadership and get a place on the
[00:16:15] list. December 2nd decides the fate not only of Russia, but of the whole world. Putin's plan
[00:16:18] is Russia's victory. The result is already visible in
[00:16:22] 2007. United Russia gets
[00:16:25] 315 seats. This is a constitutional majority.
[00:16:28] There are now only four parties in the Duma. United Russia,
[00:16:32] CPRF, LDPR and Fair
[00:16:34] Russia.
[00:16:38] Political competition finally moves beyond
[00:16:41] parliament. It's time to change power,
[00:16:45] change power. In December 2011,
[00:16:49] United Russia loses its constitutional
[00:16:51] majority.
[00:16:54] Numerous reports of violations appear in the elections.
[00:16:57] Observers publish videos of ballot stuffing, removal
[00:17:00] of observers and rewriting of protocols.
[00:17:04] Everyone stand still, this is a robbery.
[00:17:07] Dissatisfaction
[00:17:12] with the election results, for which there is almost no room left inside
[00:17:15] parliament, takes to the streets.
[00:17:18] Russia without Putin. Russia without
[00:17:22] Putin. Tens of thousands of people demand fair
[00:17:26] elections. These are the largest political protests since the beginning
[00:17:29] of Putin's rule. Too many questions about how the elections
[00:17:33] went. They didn't just steal votes. They usurped
[00:17:37] power.
[00:18:29] to control parliament, the Kremlin no longer needs to have 300 United Russia deputies, on key issues, decisions handed down
[00:18:32] from above are voted on by parties that are formally
[00:18:36] considered.
[00:18:39] Today is Vladimir Vladimirovich's birthday, let's congratulate
[00:18:42] him.
[00:18:49] And once again, briefly about this evolution. In
[00:18:51] 1995, different political forces were
[00:18:55] represented in the Duma, behind which stood different voters.
[00:18:58] Deputies argued and made independent decisions. One
[00:19:02] could stage a nationalistic provocation directly from the Duma
[00:19:05] rostrum, others could punish him for
[00:19:07] it, for 237 + 5 =
[00:19:11] 242. In 2014, the Kremlin's
[00:19:15] decision to annex Crimea was supported by almost the entire Duma, but Ilya
[00:19:18] Ponomarev could still press the "against" button. Three more
[00:19:21] deputies could refuse to vote. Show the
[00:19:24] result. Two years later, these deputies are no
[00:19:28] longer in parliament.
[00:19:31] And six years later, Vladimir Putin recognizes the so-called
[00:19:35] DNR and LNR. All deputies vote yes, not
[00:19:38] a single one against, against - no, no abstentions.
[00:19:42] The Russian Duma did not cease to be independent in
[00:19:45] one day. First, the Kremlin learned to gather a
[00:19:49] majority in it, then created its own majority
[00:19:52] party, then changed the election rules, narrowed
[00:19:56] the space for competitors.
[00:19:59] And by 2022, the last thing the authorities had to
[00:20:03] fear in parliament disappeared from the hall: the voice
[00:20:06] of a deputy. And
[00:20:07] these
[00:20:13] changes were noticeable not only in the composition of
[00:20:16] the Duma or the decisions that this Duma made, but in the language
[00:20:19] parties used to talk to voters, about what they talked
[00:20:23] about with them. My colleague Ksenia Sokolyanskaya rewatched
[00:20:26] party campaign videos from the last 20 years, she will
[00:20:30] come to this studio now to tell what patterns she
[00:20:33] discovered. Order.
[00:20:53] The enemy must be destroyed, we will talk about how everything changed
[00:20:56] with Ksenia Sokolyanskaya, she is in our
[00:20:59] studio, Ksyusha, hello, hello, hello, first of all, I wanted to
[00:21:03] ask you, when you watched all these videos in your opinion, well,
[00:21:07] yes, what were your feelings, I understand, you probably wanted to answer this
[00:21:11] question right away, but I think we all roughly understand what a person can
[00:21:14] feel looking at all this, but what really caught your
[00:21:18] eye, what changes?
[00:21:50] this found confirmation
[00:21:53] in the language parties used to speak to
[00:21:56] their electorate, how they criticized their direct
[00:22:00] competitors, how they talked about some other
[00:22:03] rivals, probably the main conclusion I
[00:22:07] came to is that most of the videos I saw are absolutely
[00:22:10] impossible to imagine on modern
[00:22:13] television, we can start with what you already showed,
[00:22:17] there was the famous party Fatherland All Russia. which
[00:22:20] actually had a rainbow logo, to imagine
[00:22:23] such a thing today is absolutely, well, that is, it's clear that
[00:22:26] we are looking at all this from September 2026,
[00:22:30] then no one could imagine how far and in what direction
[00:22:34] the political life of the country would go, but this to say the least
[00:22:38] is surprising, I wanted to show you, for example, a video
[00:22:42] from 1995, if you remember there was such a party
[00:22:45] Forward Russia, this is the party of the former Minister of Finance Boris.
[00:23:20] Vote for the Forward Russia movement and Boris Fyodorov, well,
[00:23:24] the question is certainly interesting, I don't even know, what's at
[00:23:27] stake, what can be gained here, it's hard to say,
[00:23:31] I'm afraid that in this quiz no one has won since 1995,
[00:23:35] I would choose 50/50 and call a friend, I wouldn't have
[00:23:37] managed myself, well, with all that
[00:23:40] yes with all some
[00:23:43] naivety of the genre from
[00:23:46] today, actually this is quite a tough very...
[00:24:20] at one time various things came up, jumping ahead,
[00:24:24] I can say that after, for example, Alexei Navalny became a prominent
[00:24:27] political figure, the word corruption disappeared from all
[00:24:31] advertising campaigns, if before the CPRF, someone else, talked about it, and
[00:24:35] there were direct accusations against the current government that everything was
[00:24:38] plundered, I don't know, oligarchs are getting rich and something else, then after
[00:24:42] Navalny started using it so much in his
[00:24:46] lexicon, this word disappeared, but
[00:24:48] separately I want to say, probably, answering your
[00:24:52] question about the 1999 campaign, even then, I don't
[00:24:55] know how well you remember, I remember a little, I was 12
[00:24:59] then, absolutely,
[00:25:01] the TV was always on, all the videos
[00:25:05] we're about to show, I saw them one way or another, they said,
[00:25:09] this is the dirtiest campaign in Russia, because
[00:25:12] there was the Luzhkov- Primakov bloc, which just
[00:25:15] clashed with the newly appeared
[00:25:19] Unity. but there were generally a lot of interesting
[00:25:22] things, because in the SPS advertisement we see Sergey
[00:25:26] Kiriyenko, as the face, the young face of a young party together
[00:25:30] with Irina Khakamada and Boris Nemtsov, we see
[00:25:33] some completely insane and funny
[00:25:37] LDPR cartoons with Zhirinovsky, who is riding
[00:25:41] an elephant somewhere, in what
[00:25:44] images Zhirinovsky did not appear, the same Unity, about
[00:25:47] which you talked a lot, which I now... made
[00:25:51] a cartoon fairy tale about itself, in which there are different characters, there
[00:25:54] is some frog that symbolizes the CPRF,
[00:25:58] a bunny with an apple, a bandit wolf, this is...
[00:29:02] This is how this rhetoric changed, or rather, not how it changed, but
[00:29:06] how people gradually began to be silent, I prepared three
[00:29:10] videos, I chose the CPRF party for this, let's
[00:29:13] start with a video from 2007,
[00:29:16] vote for, vote for
[00:29:19] e, vote for
[00:29:23] e, for e, for e,
[00:29:26] vote,
[00:29:32] what's stuck, then
[00:29:34] the CPRF,
[00:29:38] I remember this video and I remember this video, and it seems to me that this
[00:29:41] was already in the era of Putin, and
[00:29:45] 2007, obviously yes, that without naming
[00:29:48] United Russia, they start pronouncing it, but it
[00:29:52] seems to me that from here it again seems that this
[00:29:55] is courage, let's watch the 2011 video, every fifth citizen
[00:29:59] of Russia lives below the poverty line.
[00:30:03] United Russia, answer!
[00:30:05] Why is rich Russia a country of poor
[00:30:08] people? Make them respect you.
[00:30:12] Vote for the real opposition, for
[00:30:15] the CPRF.
[00:30:18] I believe that all people can become kind and happy.
[00:30:22] I really want my dad's factory to work. Let my brother,
[00:30:26] dad and mom have their own apartment. May there never
[00:30:30] be war again on Earth. I dream that our family will have enough
[00:30:34] money to cure my sister, these are the dreams
[00:30:37] of our children, they must become reality,
[00:30:40] it's time to act, we are right, we
[00:30:43] can,
[00:30:46] CPRF. The last video, to be honest, I want to show
[00:30:49] right now? This is 2016,
[00:30:52] on Earth, there will never be war
[00:30:56] again, this is a direct quote, now we will show.