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[00:00:00] committee, which is ready to help with finding a lawyer
[00:00:03] and write a legal
[00:00:05] opinion, and if something needs to be picked up in
[00:00:08] the country, to somehow help provide, provide support, and
[00:00:12] there are several such NGOs, like ours, and we always
[00:00:16] tell people to please contact us, we will try to
[00:00:19] help you. Yes, thank you very much for your
[00:00:21] clarification. Margarita Kuchusheva, a lawyer for the Anti-War Committee of Russia's Consul
[00:00:25] project, was on air with the program "A Person Has the
[00:00:28] Right."
[00:00:33] Spoke with an acquaintance via video call, used the wrong
[00:00:36] emoji in the building chat, quarreled with a neighbor
[00:00:39] because of a tip-off, all this in Russia can now become a reason
[00:00:43] for a denunciation, your words and seemingly
[00:00:46] harmless actions can lead to a fine or even
[00:00:49] imprisonment. The so-called epidemic of denunciations in
[00:00:53] Russia, which broke out after the start of the war with Ukraine, is attracting
[00:00:57] attention not only from human rights activists. The FSB
[00:01:00] notes that the number of calls to their hotline is steadily
[00:01:03] growing, in 2025 alone there were almost
[00:01:07] 147,000, one and a half times more than two
[00:01:11] years earlier. Who, and why, in Russia denounces to the authorities
[00:01:15] potential violators of numerous prohibitive
[00:01:18] laws adopted after the invasion of Ukraine. And
[00:01:21] what this ends with, we will tell in our
[00:01:24] story.
[00:01:29] Since the start of the full-scale war with
[00:01:32] Ukraine, Russians are increasingly complaining not only about salaries,
[00:01:36] utilities and fraudsters, but also about each other. In
[00:01:39] 2022, the prosecutor's office received more than 5 million complaints, last year
[00:01:43] almost 8 million. The FSB also receives more
[00:01:46] calls. In 2 years, calls to its hotline have
[00:01:49] increased by almost one and a half times, people complain about
[00:01:52] neighbors, acquaintances, relatives, and often such
[00:01:55] complaints lead to fines or even imprisonment. One
[00:01:59] of the freshest stories happened in Vladivostok, where
[00:02:03] on August 31, Ksenia, the mother of a schoolchild, posted a video about
[00:02:06] school number 61 obliging children to wear a chevron
[00:02:10] with a flying drone, although last year it had a feather against
[00:02:14] the background of the Russian flag. Other parents in chats also called
[00:02:18] the new design strange. When journalists wrote about it, the school
[00:02:22] director said that the chevron was only needed for one specialized class, and
[00:02:25] then wrote a statement to the police against Ksenia.
[00:02:29] A provocation aimed at discrediting
[00:02:33] the educational institution on Knowledge Day and the first day
[00:02:36] of the Eastern Economic Forum. The director claims that the video
[00:02:40] shows someone else's chevron, although photos from the assembly, where these chevrons
[00:02:43] are visible, are posted on the school's public page. Ksenia has already given
[00:02:47] explanations to the district police officer, now she faces a fine for unreliable
[00:02:51] information. After the start of the war, a denunciation is a simple
[00:02:54] way to settle scores, and the reason can be an emoji in a building
[00:02:58] chat or an inaccurate
[00:03:07] conversation with an acquaintance via video about the army, and he recorded the conversation and handed it over
[00:03:11] to the police. The defense argued that it was a private
[00:03:14] call, and Timofeev did not publicly disseminate
[00:03:17] information discrediting the army, but the court decided that
[00:03:21] other people could have heard the words and fined Timofeev
[00:03:24] 30,000 rubles. In Rostov-on- Don, one of the residents
[00:03:27] posted a video in the building chat where a Russian military vehicle fires
[00:03:31] a salvo, and Sergey Karavainy left a comment under it with a poop
[00:03:35] emoji. He explained that he was dissatisfied with the person
[00:03:38] who posted the video, not the army, but his neighbor wrote a complaint,
[00:03:42] and the court imposed the same fine on him. Often, such
[00:03:45] statements are caused by old quarrels, then everything can
[00:03:49] end not with just a fine. Hairdresser from Pushkino, Anna
[00:03:52] Alexandrova had been feuding over land with her neighbor
[00:03:56] at the dacha for a long time, and it was this neighbor who told the police
[00:04:00] about her anti-war posts and private messages. Alexandrova
[00:04:03] was sentenced to five years and two months in a penal colony for
[00:04:07] fakes about the army. In her final statement, she said: The history
[00:04:10] of denunciations in Russia has a centuries-old history, and
[00:04:13] the history of denunciations out of mercenary motives is a topic
[00:04:17] that has been repeatedly covered not only by lawyers,
[00:04:20] legal scholars, but also by the classics of our national literature.
[00:04:24] Sometimes people denounce relatives, for example, Anna Stepanova, who
[00:04:27] protested against the garbage dump in Shiyes, and
[00:04:31] then left Russia and became a foreign agent. A statement to
[00:04:34] the police was written by her cousin, contract soldier Oleg
[00:04:38] Gorin. On TikTok, he explained why. I wrote to the
[00:04:41] police so that she would not lose it, not sell it, and the money would not
[00:04:44] go to support the Armed Forces of Ukraine, or into her pocket for propaganda
[00:04:48] slander. She herself thinks that her brother just wants to take the apartment
[00:04:52] for himself, but no one has taken it away yet. And also such
[00:04:55] accusations turned out to be a very convenient way to eliminate competitors in
[00:04:59] business. Paying for publications in Western publications has
[00:05:03] long been common practice for Russian entrepreneurs, but
[00:05:06] previously they would order laudatory texts about themselves for
[00:05:09] PR and reputation. Now, as the BBC Russian
[00:05:12] Service found out, they are increasingly ordering compromising material on
[00:05:16] competitors. So in August 2025, the website EU
[00:05:20] Reporter published an interview with the former head of Plyos,
[00:05:23] businessman Alexey Shevtsov, where he allegedly called
[00:05:27] what was happening in Ukraine war crimes.
[00:05:30] Shevtsov says that he did not give any interview, and explains its
[00:05:33] appearance by his conflict over the Fortetsiya
[00:05:37] Rus hotel. The expertise, to which the
[00:05:40] BBC refers, admits that the voice
[00:05:47] his lawyers believe that it was precisely because of this interview, in the
[00:05:51] same month, the court, at the suit of the prosecutor's office, confiscated from him in favor
[00:05:55] of the state more than 150 real estate
[00:05:58] objects, shares in companies and income totaling more than a billion
[00:06:02] rubles, deciding that Shevtsov built his business using
[00:06:05] his position as mayor, at the end of August, the Cassation Court
[00:06:08] upheld this decision.
[00:06:15] This is the program "Man has the right," my name is Mariana Tarachashnikova, and
[00:06:19] on video call with our studio is lawyer Valeria Vitushkina. Valeria,
[00:06:23] hello! Hello, please explain,
[00:06:26] from a legal point of view,
[00:06:30] what does the word "denunciation" mean? Well, it sounds very
[00:06:33] unpleasant, denouncer, snitch,
[00:06:37] denunciations, but legally, what
[00:06:40] is it? Generally, in the Criminal Procedure
[00:06:43] Code, there is such a basis
[00:06:46] for conducting an investigation,
[00:06:50] and then as an option for the criminal case itself,
[00:06:54] as a statement of a crime. So, in general,
[00:06:57] if you try to put it into
[00:07:00] some legal framework, it can
[00:07:04] be such a statement of a crime. But, of course, in
[00:07:07] general, a "denouncer" is not a legal category, because these are
[00:07:11] just people who write some
[00:07:14] slanders, m-hm. Well, and in order to write
[00:07:18] such a slander or write such a
[00:07:21] denunciation against a person, to report that,
[00:07:24] in your opinion,
[00:07:27] they are violating the law, do you need to provide
[00:07:30] any evidence or
[00:07:33] is it enough to simply signal, and then let them
[00:07:36] deal with it, the police, the Investigative Committee, or
[00:07:40] the FSB, depending on who you complained to? I think
[00:07:43] we need to immediately define
[00:07:47] that denunciations are very, very
[00:07:50] different. We will probably talk
[00:07:54] today about denunciations
[00:07:57] in political cases, when people are sometimes eventually
[00:08:01] prosecuted for words or
[00:08:04] complain that someone expresses,
[00:08:07] for example, an anti-war position, and most
[00:08:11] often, such denunciations are accompanied by some
[00:08:14] evidence, because people directly
[00:08:16] try, for some reasons, which we can discuss, but
[00:08:20] people directly record some violations. But on the
[00:08:23] other hand, if the police, the Investigative Committee, or the FSB
[00:08:27] have the goal of somehow prosecuting
[00:08:31] a person, any reason will be enough, even
[00:08:34] if no evidence is attached to the denunciation,
[00:08:38] they will just need a simple
[00:08:41] link, statement, and so on, they
[00:08:45] will already carry out everything themselves, find everything themselves, they are fine
[00:08:48] with that. M-hm. So, you said that there are
[00:08:52] people who specifically
[00:08:55] provide evidence confirming their words. Who
[00:08:59] are these people, who generally writes denunciations
[00:09:03] in Russia now, most often and why? I think
[00:09:06] we all know that there are already professional
[00:09:10] informers, and these
[00:09:14] can sometimes be people from government agencies,
[00:09:17] some deputies, most often these are, of course, United
[00:09:21] Russia deputies, these can be State Duma deputies, these can
[00:09:24] also be deputies of some
[00:09:27] regional legislative bodies, they simply
[00:09:30] prove their loyalty
[00:09:32] to the system, for example,
[00:09:36] big case against the stop time group, we all eventually
[00:09:40] found out that the investigation
[00:09:43] began at the request of a
[00:09:46] deputy. This is the most banal, typical example
[00:09:50] of a denunciation, there are, of course, denunciations from ordinary
[00:09:54] people, who,
[00:09:56] well, honestly, they don't even get paid for it, well, I
[00:10:00] mean, I say "even," well, maybe it could be explained by money, but
[00:10:03] it's just, well, some people
[00:10:07] really believe in it, some are just afraid that
[00:10:10] they will be arrested, he watches.
[00:10:13] there are some neighbors, surrounding people, chats, parent groups, house groups, and so
[00:10:16] on, everyone has their own values.
[00:10:19] Are law enforcement agencies obliged to react to such
[00:10:23] denunciations that, for example, lack evidence or to
[00:10:27] anonymous messages? How does this
[00:10:29] story work? From the point of view of the law, there
[00:10:33] is no difference whether a statement is
[00:10:36] anonymous or not, meaning even anonymous
[00:10:40] ones must be considered. But in any case, it is important
[00:10:43] to understand that anonymous statements in Russia, well, they are not really
[00:10:47] anonymous, because if you submit them within Russia, it is very
[00:10:50] easy to find out who actually submitted them. If
[00:10:54] we talk about evidence,
[00:10:56] but
[00:11:02] again, it costs law enforcement nothing to assess, as it were, at the entrance, whether there is a basis for an investigation.
[00:11:05] The other question is that very often, for example, people come
[00:11:08] to me with a question like,
[00:11:11] "I was threatened that they would write a denunciation against me for
[00:11:14] my post on Telegram, what should I do?" And I always
[00:11:17] basically tell people that it's not at all certain
[00:11:21] that the denunciation will be acted upon. That is, I
[00:11:25] mean, so many denunciations are written to the police, to the Investigative
[00:11:28] Committee, to the FSB, and so on, but thank
[00:11:32] goodness, not all of these complaints are given
[00:11:35] any life. That is, it seems
[00:11:38] to me that they don't process them in the volume in which they
[00:11:41] are received. But nevertheless, you know, no one wants to take risks, and
[00:11:45] what should a person do if they know
[00:11:49] that they have been denounced, or if they have already been
[00:11:52] threatened with it? Yes, of course.
[00:11:55] If there is any threat, I am by no means
[00:11:59] saying that one should take risks, because one must assess one's safety,
[00:12:03] because the situation in Russia is very, very dangerous,
[00:12:06] in general, and as we have already said many times, these
[00:12:10] posts on the Internet, this is
[00:12:13] an ongoing offense, for example, for discreditation, the statute of limitations is 3
[00:12:16] months, and how it is calculated, it is not calculated
[00:12:19] from the moment you wrote the post, but from the moment the
[00:12:23] law enforcement officers discovered this post. That is, if, for example, someone
[00:12:27] wrote a post in May 2022, unfortunately,
[00:12:30] even now they can be held accountable for it, but you can
[00:12:33] as it were stop
[00:12:37] the running of this statute of limitations if you delete
[00:12:40] the post. M-hm. Therefore, if you are worried that you have become
[00:12:43] a victim of denunciation, delete it. If your
[00:12:47] offense, the offense is connected
[00:12:49] with a publication on the Internet, you can either
[00:12:53] delete the post, or
[00:12:55] close the account, but only then will it help if
[00:12:59] you know all the subscribers for sure. Well, and if it is,
[00:13:02] for example, related to some public action, for example, you went out with
[00:13:06] a poster, unfortunately, there is nothing to do about it.
[00:13:09] M-hm. And tell me,
[00:13:12] if someone was denounced, but
[00:13:15] in fact they were slandered, do they still
[00:13:18] have any opportunities to rehabilitate themselves in
[00:13:22] Russia, to prosecute this slanderer? To criminal
[00:13:25] responsibility for a deliberately false denunciation, because there is such an article in
[00:13:29] the criminal code, yes, indeed, there is such an article
[00:13:32] in the criminal code, but it
[00:13:35] differentiates responsibility. There is a part
[00:13:39] that simply establishes responsibility for the dissemination of so-called
[00:13:43] information discrediting
[00:13:45] honor and dignity, and then
[00:13:49] there is responsibility for
[00:13:52] slanderous information regarding accusations
[00:13:55] of grave and especially grave crimes. That is, roughly speaking,
[00:13:59] but at the same time, it is important that these actions must be committed
[00:14:02] publicly. That is, yes,
[00:14:05] there is a very, very small practice that
[00:14:08] if someone wrote a statement to
[00:14:12] a state body, but the statement turned out
[00:14:15] to be false, then one person, I read this court
[00:14:18] decision, was brought to responsibility for slander,
[00:14:22] but this case was against a person who
[00:14:25] wrote a statement against an official. It is difficult
[00:14:29] for me to imagine that a simple citizen would be
[00:14:32] protected. And regarding a separate article about
[00:14:35] a deliberately false
[00:14:36] denunciation,
[00:14:39] the investigator who will conduct the investigation must
[00:14:43] establish that the denunciation was
[00:14:46] deliberately false, that is, not just false, that the person
[00:14:49] made a mistake, but that this person deliberately understood that, for example,
[00:14:53] what another person posted
[00:14:57] is not a crime. M-hm. Well, in general,
[00:15:00] it turns out that the chances of
[00:15:04] rehabilitation in such a case are very
[00:15:07] small. In your opinion,
[00:15:10] is it really true that after
[00:15:14] Russia launched such an aggressive
[00:15:17] war in Ukraine, after
[00:15:20] February 2022, an epidemic began
[00:15:23] in the country?
[00:16:07] the strictest sentence in modern Russia for a case of stalking and online
[00:16:11] bullying, which almost led to the death of a young girl.
[00:16:15] 21-year-old Mikhail Shalimov was sentenced to 12
[00:16:18] years in a strict regime penal colony. After a conflict in
[00:16:21] a game chat, he months pursued a schoolgirl from
[00:16:25] Ufa, sent her threats, ordered night deliveries to
[00:16:28] her home, published pornographic materials in the name
[00:16:31] of her relatives, and drove her to an attempted suicide. According to
[00:16:35] the Internet Development Foundation, every fourth
[00:16:38] Russian teenager has faced insults, bullying, or
[00:16:42] harassment online, however, in Russian legislation,
[00:16:45] issues of combating cyberbullying and
[00:16:48] cyberstalking, and punishments
[00:16:50] for them are not addressed.
[00:16:57] It all started with an online game. In the spring of 2024, twenty-one-year-old
[00:17:01] Mikhail Shalimov met ninth-grader Diana from
[00:17:04] Ufa in a community dedicated to Minecraft. A conflict
[00:17:08] arose between them, and Shalimov threatened the schoolgirl with problems and forced
[00:17:12] her to publicly apologize. Diana refused. After that,
[00:17:15] Shalimov began bullying the girl on the Internet, sending threats to her and her
[00:17:18] family, creating accounts in Diana's name and publishing,
[00:17:22] for example, videos of animal abuse there. Gradually, the bullying
[00:17:26] went beyond the Internet. Shalimov called couriers to the Ufa resident's
[00:17:29] address in the middle of the night, wrote nasty things in the house chat in Diana's
[00:17:32] mother's name, hung up ads around the city with the schoolgirl's
[00:17:36] photo and the caption, "On behalf of Diana, he called the police,
[00:17:40] reported bomb threats at the school, shopping center, and enterprise."
[00:17:43] According to the materials of the criminal case, Shalimov demanded that the schoolgirl commit
[00:17:47] suicide, promising only after that to stop the persecution. Diana
[00:17:51] tried to do it. The Novgorod District Court found Shalimov guilty of
[00:17:54] bringing a minor to an attempted suicide and of organizing
[00:17:57] deliberately false reports of terrorist acts. In Veliky Novgorod,
[00:18:01] Shalimov had already been tried under other articles for indecent acts against
[00:18:05] minors and for the manufacture and distribution
[00:18:09] of such materials. Taking into account the previous verdict, the final sentence was 12 years in a strict regime penal colony. The first high-profile cases
[00:18:15] of online bullying and so-called death groups appeared almost 10 years
[00:18:19] ago. For example, in 2017, Philipp
[00:18:21] Budeikin,
[00:18:23] known online as Philipp Lis, received 3 years and 4 months in a
[00:18:27] settlement colony for inciting minors to suicide using
[00:18:30] social networks. A year later, Ilya
[00:18:33] Sidorov, whom the investigation also considered the curator of one of these groups,
[00:18:37] received 3 years in a settlement colony. In
[00:18:40] 2025, the creator of the Blue Whale channel, Ilya Pogiblov, was
[00:18:43] sentenced to nine years in a strict regime penal colony. The court
[00:18:47] found him guilty, in particular, of organizing activities on the Internet
[00:18:50] aimed at inciting suicide and inducing minors to
[00:18:53] suicide. As Novaya Gazeta wrote, about 130 teenagers
[00:18:57] allegedly became victims of the Blue Whale or other death groups.
[00:19:00] Today, online bullying takes on new
[00:19:04] forms. Some content, for example, deepfakes, is created in a matter of seconds
[00:19:07] using neural networks. One such case was recently heard in court
[00:19:11] in Vladimir. There, schoolchildren used a neural network to create obscene
[00:19:15] images of their classmate, and then distributed them in
[00:19:18] a Telegram channel. The mother went to court, and the perpetrators and the educational
[00:19:22] institution were ordered to pay compensation for moral damages. According to
[00:19:25] statistics from the Monitoring Center Security 2.0, in
[00:19:28] 2025, Russia recorded about
[00:19:31] 10,000 cases of cyberbullying involving
[00:19:34] minors. This is 14% more than a year
[00:19:37] earlier. However, for online violence, which includes
[00:19:41] stalking, bullying, and harassment, simple
[00:19:44] words are enough. Thus, in early September, a court in Vologda sentenced a student
[00:19:48] of a local university to 2.5 years of conditional imprisonment for inciting
[00:19:51] a twenty-year-old girl to suicide. Mediazona
[00:19:54] established that the accused is likely named Stepan Shalyapin. According to
[00:19:58] case materials, he systematically sent messages from different
[00:20:01] accounts to the victim, urging her to harm herself or commit
[00:20:05] suicide. According to world statistics for
[00:20:08] 2025, approximately 38% of women have
[00:20:11] encountered online violence at least once, and
[00:20:13] 85% have been witnesses to it,
[00:20:16] and every twelfth
[00:20:20] child has been subjected to
[00:20:21] sexual harassment on the internet.
[00:20:26] This is the "Man Has the Right" program. My name is Maryana Trocheshnikova,
[00:20:30] and joining our studio is feminist and author of the
[00:20:33] YouTube channel "Lego Razdora," Zalina Marshenkulova. Zalina,
[00:20:36] hello! Hello. Please tell
[00:20:40] me, why do women and girls
[00:20:44] especially often become victims of cyberstalking
[00:20:48] and cyberbullying? How is this? Is it related to gender
[00:20:51] stereotypes, or is it a misconception that
[00:20:55] girls and women suffer most often
[00:20:58] from online violence? No, this is not
[00:21:01] a misconception, there are studies confirming this, just as
[00:21:04] women suffer most from physical violence, they also suffer from
[00:21:07] cyberviolence,
[00:21:10] this is due to the learned misogyny,
[00:21:14] woman-hatred, that prevails, especially
[00:21:17] in a patriarchal society, and
[00:21:21] Russia is a maximally patriarchal country,
[00:21:25] but there is also another reason,
[00:21:28] impunity, the absence of any protective mechanisms,
[00:21:32] a person in Russia, especially a woman, cannot
[00:21:35] protect herself from the harassment of some
[00:21:37] inadequate person,
[00:21:40] there are no such tools, for example, like a
[00:21:43] restraining order not to approach closer than 200 meters, there are no such
[00:21:47] laws, so this leads to
[00:21:50] absolute lawlessness, it leads to girls being kidnapped in broad daylight, as has
[00:21:54] already happened several times,
[00:21:58] some heroes of their own story kidnap them, shove them into a car,
[00:22:01] and nothing will happen to them for it, m-hm, yes, but this
[00:22:04] is still us leaving, so to speak, the
[00:22:08] network, the internet, for real life, it seems, and it's as
[00:22:12] if law enforcement officials treat it that
[00:22:15] way, cyberstalking,
[00:22:19] cyberbullying. That it's nothing, something not serious, it's
[00:22:22] not real, you weren't physically grabbed, not
[00:22:26] caught, but someone wrote you something on the internet, don't
[00:22:30] pay attention, block them.
[00:22:33] And why is there such an attitude from your point
[00:22:36] of view, how justified is it? It's not justified at
[00:22:39] all, such an unserious attitude, because again,
[00:22:43] according to various studies,
[00:22:46] cyberbullying causes the same damage, essentially
[00:22:49] psychological, as if you were bullied in person and told
[00:22:52] you were worthless, die, something like that. So, in fact,
[00:22:56] the harm from online bullying is real,
[00:22:59] it's not some fiction, it's not some nonsense,
[00:23:03] it's absolutely abnormal, I don't know, to
[00:23:07] face a huge number of threats or death wishes online,
[00:23:10] but that's also not regulated at all, because
[00:23:13] yes, there is such a thing, well, in fact, if we take Russia specifically,
[00:23:17] then in Russia from...
[00:23:50] in general, often the surrounding society does not
[00:23:53] take this digital
[00:23:56] violence seriously, and often blames the victim herself, saying: "Well, you shouldn't be on
[00:24:00] the internet, posting your photos,"
[00:24:03] because in general, society,
[00:24:06] which normalizes
[00:24:10] violence, normalizes any violence. In Russia,
[00:24:13] domestic violence is considered normal,
[00:24:17] people still haven't come to a conclusion about whether it's okay to hit children or not, for example, in the family,
[00:24:21] it's still considered a topic for discussion,
[00:24:25] and what can we say about cyberviolence,
[00:24:29] which is not taken seriously at all, and I, moreover, many people generally
[00:24:32] perceive this option to insult someone,
[00:24:36] threaten someone, pour all their venom, all their negativity
[00:24:39] on someone, they perceive it as
[00:24:42] their, their, I don't know, not so much a privilege, but their
[00:24:45] free time pastime, that's how they probably
[00:24:49] perceive it, like they have the right to do that. It seems to
[00:24:52] me that people don't even think about how much they dehumanize
[00:24:55] someone on the internet. What
[00:24:59] problems arise for specific people,
[00:25:02] for specific girls and young women in cases where
[00:25:06] they do not find support, well, from the
[00:25:09] state, from law enforcement agencies
[00:25:12] after cyber
[00:25:15] violence? Well, what huge problems, as I have repeatedly
[00:25:18] defended women,
[00:26:32] yes, due to the fact that it is completely absurd and monstrous, this case, it's
[00:26:36] just, how can you not look, a fourteen-year-old girl is being bullied by some adult
[00:26:40] man, for no clear reason, completely inadequate, because she
[00:26:43] changed the name of the game chat, although she didn't change it,
[00:26:47] and it wasn't her, that is, it's unclear for what reason
[00:26:50] she generally caused him to want to pursue her and
[00:26:54] poison her in every way, to spoil
[00:26:57] her life in every way, that this is generally unthinkable,
[00:27:00] an underage girl against some adult
[00:27:04] inadequate man, this is simply complete madness, so of course this
[00:27:07] case, of course, should have
[00:27:10] become high-profile, of course, they should have done something about it, this is simply unthinkable,
[00:27:14] but if it seems to me that if it wasn't an underage girl, but
[00:27:17] just some adult woman, it seems to me that there wouldn't have been such a resonance, there wouldn't
[00:27:21] have been a resonance or there wouldn't have been a case,
[00:27:24] it seems to me there wouldn't have been a case, there are a huge number of women who are
[00:27:28] physically pursued by ex-partners, physically directly, yes, that is, not online, but physically they don't
[00:27:32] allow...
[00:27:43] well, I don't know, the adoption of some specialized law or
[00:27:46] the development of legal mechanisms against
[00:27:50] intrusive harassment, including on the Internet,
[00:27:53] or
[00:27:56] life would have developed on its own, and no one would have
[00:28:00] paid attention to the law.
[00:28:02] that in Russia, no more regulatory restrictive
[00:28:06] laws should be made, because
[00:28:08] now almost all laws are used as
[00:28:12] repression, as repressive
[00:28:15] laws, and of course, this law, even if
[00:28:18] it existed, which prohibits cyberbullying, it would naturally
[00:28:22] be directed not against really some scoundrels, maniacs and
[00:28:25] villains, like, I don't know, pedophiles, but it would work
[00:28:29] against some ordinary good people, as is the case here. Almost
[00:28:32] all good people in Russia are already in prison,
[00:28:35] so I don't support such restrictions at
[00:28:39] the legislative level, here we need to fight only with public
[00:28:42] outcry, unfortunately, in this case, society must stop
[00:28:46] normalizing violence in
[00:28:48] general, because violence against women, domestic
[00:28:52] violence, is still normalized with the words that it
[00:28:56] will harm - I don't know, mm
[00:28:59] traditional families in some way, implying that the traditional
[00:29:03] family is based on violence against women, obviously,
[00:29:06] this must be, when they stop normalizing it at the state level, then
[00:29:10] the attitude towards cyberviolence will begin to change, and
[00:29:13] as long as physical violence is still considered, well, not something
[00:29:17] great, then how will we come to the conclusion that cyberviolence is
[00:29:21] bad? Uh-huh, yes, thank you very much for your
[00:29:24] comments, Zalina Marchenkola, feminist,
[00:29:27] author of the YouTube channel "Liga Razdora" was on the line with the program, "Chelovek
[00:29:31] Imet Pravo" (A Person Has the Right).
[00:29:35] This was the program "Chelovek Imet Pravo", I , Maryana Trachashnikova, hosted it, until
[00:29:39] we meet again on the air of Radio Svoboda and the Current Time TV channel.
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