CURRENTTIME — broadcast 20261012 140000 UTC 388 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:22] I don't think he deserved a respite, the aerial [00:00:26] truce turned out to be hot air, why not Russia? [00:00:30] Ukraine is not [00:00:31] going for it. [00:00:36] From now on, an energy truce - [00:00:39] US President Donald Trump wrote on his True Social network. [00:00:43] The moment was Sunday evening. But on Monday morning, [00:00:46] Ukrainian authorities announce a Russian [00:00:49] strike on one of Ukraine's [00:00:51] power plants. [00:00:54] Immediately after the publication by President Trump on True Social, [00:00:58] Russia launched a targeted strike on a power plant [00:01:01] in Kharkov, causing additional damage [00:01:05] to our energy system. Obviously, Putin does not [00:01:09] read True [00:01:10] Social. [00:01:15] Russia, in turn, replies that it sees no [00:01:18] prospects now or in the future for [00:01:22] ending the shelling of energy facilities. I don't think he deserved a respite, [00:01:26] I don't think we will once again... [00:01:30] fall for assurances [00:01:33] and promises. The president said this very [00:01:37] clearly: we continue to achieve the goals of the special military [00:01:41] operation. Nevertheless, the Kremlin says that [00:01:44] contacts regarding a truce are still maintained, but why, [00:01:48] what are these talks about at all, and what do ordinary people [00:01:51] in Russia and Ukraine think about these statements? [00:01:54] We will discuss this today on Face to Face with the Event. [00:01:57] Hello. Donald Trump unexpectedly announced that Russia and [00:02:01] Ukraine had agreed not to attack each other's energy infrastructure and that [00:02:04] a truce was already in effect. From this moment on, during the war [00:02:08] between Russia and Ukraine, an energy [00:02:11] truce comes into force. Both sides have agreed [00:02:14] to this, do not violate it. Ukrainian President [00:02:18] Zelensky said that he heard about such an agreement for the first time, although Ukraine is ready [00:02:21] to cease strikes if Russia does so, and the Kremlin did not respond [00:02:25] to Trump's statement at all. Meanwhile, Russia continued its attacks [00:02:29] that same [00:03:00] day. Russian Shahed jets were flying in the sky. Immediately after [00:03:03] that, Russia launched a targeted strike on a power plant in Kharkov [00:03:07] and further damaged our energy system. It became [00:03:10] clear that Putin does not read True Social. What exactly [00:03:13] Trump meant became clear the next day. As Axios writes, citing [00:03:17] a source in the White House, it is primarily about Russia [00:03:21] and Ukraine stopping hitting each other's oil [00:03:24] refineries. In Kyiv, such a suggestion is considered one-sided. [00:03:28] Russia has a large network of oil refineries, while Ukraine has only [00:03:31] one plant left, and it is not working at full capacity. For Ukraine, [00:03:35] it is much more important that Russia stop hitting its power plants [00:03:39] and grids. We are ready for an energy truce so that both sides do not [00:03:43] strike energy facilities, and if the Russians [00:03:46] want us not to attack their diesel fuel, their [00:03:49] refineries, and so on, we ask President [00:03:53] Trump to signal them not to attack Ukraine's energy [00:03:56] infrastructure, it's a fair deal. Why would Trump save [00:04:00] refineries? It's clear from how quickly Moscow reacted to his diesel [00:04:04] deal with Putin. Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak immediately [00:04:07] promised to lift restrictions on diesel exports, although the government [00:04:10] imposed them to prevent fuel shortages within the country. [00:04:14] He named volumes of 300,000 tons in October, 500,000 [00:04:18] in November, and a million in December. In the future, the volume [00:04:21] could increase to 3 million tons per month. The Russian market, meanwhile, [00:04:25] will also be fully supplied with diesel. For Trump, this diesel is now [00:04:29] especially important. Fuel prices in the US have risen sharply, with less than a month [00:04:33] until the midterm congressional elections, and to reduce prices, the US [00:04:36] Treasury even exempted these supplies from sanctions until [00:04:40] April 7, 2027. But diesel is produced precisely at [00:04:43] those plants that Ukrainian drones are hitting, and Trump [00:04:46] believes that these strikes are driving up prices and hitting [00:04:49] the American economy. On the eve of the truce [00:04:52] announcement, he directly accused Zelensky of this, answering [00:04:56] journalists in the White House. He, Zelensky, wants to create problems [00:05:00] for our farmers, our cattle breeders with diesel fuel. I told [00:05:03] him: do whatever you want, just don't hit the refineries, there are [00:05:07] plenty of targets, but he went and hit them. Why is diesel expensive in America? [00:05:11] Yes, the question arises. [00:05:13] and the answer is very simple, yes, it is impossible to make [00:05:17] cheap diesel from expensive oil, accordingly, here we need to look [00:05:21] for the root cause of the problems in the fact that [00:05:24] oil is expensive. Why is oil expensive? Obviously, [00:05:28] yes, obviously because of the problems in the Persian Gulf, the Strait of Hormuz, [00:05:31] the Red Sea, but [00:05:34] elections are approaching in America, and Donald Trump [00:05:38] cannot admit that because of what he started... [00:06:12] will block the program under which allies purchase American [00:06:16] weapons for Kyiv. And Trump himself, in the same conversation with journalists, [00:06:19] went further and stated that Ukraine needs a different [00:06:23] president. Zelensky responded to Trump the next day in an interview [00:06:26] with the American TV channel ABC News. According to him, Ukrainians [00:06:30] themselves will decide who to elect president, but the law does not [00:06:33] allow holding elections during the war. And if Trump wants [00:06:36] change, he should turn to Putin. Putin really wanted [00:06:40] to change the president of Ukraine, I understand this, and if [00:06:43] President Trump really wants some changes as a result [00:06:46] of the elections, I have already told his team about this, so please, [00:06:50] tell Putin, give us 2 months, 60 days [00:06:53] of a complete ceasefire, 60 days, and we will organize [00:06:57] elections, of course, we will be ready to accept any choice of our [00:07:01] people, namely the Ukrainian people. The Kremlin stated [00:07:04] that they are not ready for a 2-month truce. Trump's special envoys [00:07:08] Stephen Witkoff and Jared Kushner, according to Axios, [00:07:11] postponed their trip to Moscow until Ukraine and the European Union [00:07:15] agree to the terms that are being sought in Washington. And whether [00:07:19] Washington plans to seek agreement from Ukraine and Europe, we will ask political scientist [00:07:22] and journalist Peter Zalmayev. Peter, hello. Good [00:07:26] morning, I greet you. I want to ask you, first of all, about [00:07:29] internal American political factors that influence such [00:07:32] statements. Trump, did he manage to satisfy [00:07:36] the Republican voter with his statements that he [00:07:39] managed to agree with the Kremlin on getting diesel? [00:07:43] You know, there are no such serious [00:07:46] public opinion polls yet, but already according to [00:07:50] preliminary estimates, it brought absolutely [00:07:53] nothing to Donald Trump. On the contrary, that still [00:07:56] modest, but still demarche of the united [00:08:00] Republican-Democratic [00:08:02] demarche in the Senate, and we are talking about seven, if I'm not mistaken, senators [00:08:05] who strongly opposed such [00:08:09] agreements. In Congress, Republican [00:08:12] Patrick from Pennsylvania generally wants to push through [00:08:16] a resolution that would make such deals impossible, [00:08:19] referring to the spirit and letter [00:08:23] of the law passed in 2022, which does not allow such [00:08:26] deals with Russia, [00:08:29] the purchase of oil products from Russia. I [00:08:32] think this will actually go against Donald Trump, and [00:08:36] of course, let's not forget, again returning to the amounts themselves, [00:08:39] quite insignificant. about [00:08:42] which was spoken, that is, 3,000 first, then 500, a million, [00:08:46] even if we add all this up, it's not more than [00:08:50] a week's diesel consumption [00:08:53] by the United States of America, this will not [00:08:56] affect the price of diesel at all, therefore, on the eve [00:09:00] of the elections, we cannot say [00:09:03] that this will somehow help Trump electorally, that [00:09:07] is, for an American to drive to a gas station and see that he [00:09:10] spent this time... 20 or 30 dollars [00:09:14] less for gasoline to fill the tank [00:09:17] with gasoline, that most likely will not happen, therefore many [00:09:21] point out that to a large extent [00:09:24] it is useless and on the contrary [00:09:27] may harm Trump, who is now perceived [00:09:30] by many as openly pursuing [00:09:33] a deal with Putin bypassing [00:09:37] Ukraine. Donald Trump also says that strikes on Russian [00:09:41] oil refineries are harmful. [00:10:12] Yes, Fox News, which is usually quite benevolent towards the agenda [00:10:16] of the American president, even there, [00:10:20] basically the host, literally [00:10:23] commenting on this diesel deal, Briann [00:10:27] said that, excuse me, for how many months have we [00:10:29] been discussing the increase in diesel prices as a direct [00:10:33] result of a protracted, prolonged [00:10:36] war in Iran, now we need to turn [00:10:39] 180° and say that Ukraine is to blame [00:10:43] for everything, even Donald Trump started talking about this quite late, after [00:10:46] the increase in diesel prices, it is [00:10:50] difficult to imagine that even such stupefied, one might say, [00:10:54] voters who are now ready to vote for Trump, [00:10:57] could make such a mental trick [00:11:01] and start believing in something else, everyone understands [00:11:04] that the reason [00:11:05] for the [00:11:08] inflated diesel prices is the war in Iran, [00:11:12] the blocking of the Strait of Hormuz [00:11:16] and Donald Trump's current inability to get out of [00:11:20] this adventure. He expects that in the next 3 [00:11:23] weeks, even if the price of diesel does not fall, at least [00:11:26] everything can be blamed on Ukraine, and accordingly the Democrats, [00:11:30] because of whom this war started, Joe Biden [00:11:33] and so on, all this is absolutely clear [00:11:36] and understandable, I have serious doubts that this will help Donald [00:11:39] Trump. The Financial Times quotes European [00:11:43] officials, without naming them, and writes that these officials [00:11:47] say that the United States threatens to stop [00:11:50] selling weapons to Ukraine. How are these [00:11:53] threats viewed? [00:12:04] their voice is not yet sufficiently represented in the Ukrainian direction from [00:12:07] the very beginning after Trump came to power for [00:12:11] a second term, and at least I had such a [00:12:14] firm impression, [00:12:17] a conviction that Donald Trump simply would not [00:12:20] be able to change arms supplies to Ukraine [00:12:24] overnight with a stroke of a pen, because this would greatly [00:12:27] harm the people, the industry. We are now talking about [00:12:31] arms manufacturers who are a [00:12:34] serious donor to the Republican party, and again [00:12:38] Donald Trump has a field for maneuvering, this field [00:12:41] is called [00:12:44] Elon Musk, who, as you know, spent more than 200 [00:12:47] million dollars on Trump's re-election. After that, they had [00:12:50] certain misunderstandings, a kind of [00:12:53] divorce, now they are trying again to return to warm relations, [00:12:57] it seemed like he was ready again to spend on [00:13:00] Republican [00:13:01] political [00:13:04] - on Republican elections and so on. This gives [00:13:07] Donald Trump a little room to maneuver, [00:13:10] therefore this industrial complex, [00:13:14] so to speak, has somewhat lost its [00:13:17] influence, and nevertheless, where are these manufacturers located? They [00:13:21] are located in very key states, including [00:13:25] Pennsylvania, which for decades [00:13:28] have been decisive [00:13:31] in terms of the outcome of elections, at least for president and so on. Therefore, Donald [00:13:35] Trump has to [00:13:37] reckon with this industry, and let's not [00:13:41] forget, the flow of weapons has not dried up, [00:13:45] weapons continue to be produced, Donald Trump just changed [00:13:47] the formula by which these weapons are given to Ukraine, [00:13:51] now they are given to Ukraine for European money. [00:13:55] Trump - again threatens that he [00:13:58] will rewrite this formula [00:14:01] completely, remove the possibility [00:14:04] of transferring American weapons, even for money to Ukraine, again I have [00:14:08] doubts about this, whether he can do it, again, [00:14:11] bipartisan support for Ukraine remains [00:14:15] in Congress, and many senators and congressmen will be unhappy that [00:14:19] their voters, people in their states, [00:14:22] who work in these enterprises... continue. [00:15:02] strikes on Yandex, [00:15:05] let's remember what happened last weekend, shelling also [00:15:08] continues in Ukraine, let's see what public opinion [00:15:11] is on the topic of an energy truce, and discuss this [00:15:15] matter with a political scientist. On the second day after the drone attack [00:15:19] on the Yandex data center in Vladimir, the company's services [00:15:22] continue to operate with limitations. Users [00:15:25] complain about failures in Yandex.Go, Yandex [00:15:28] Lavka, Yandex Food, and other applications. I open [00:15:32] Yandex Music and want to click on the text, [00:15:35] and it gives me this text. In connection with a problem in the Yandex [00:15:39] Pay system, some money [00:15:42] transfers and payments are unavailable there. The Yandex Pay application does not work, and [00:15:46] it says why this happened, information [00:15:49] that the money is safe, and [00:15:52] the application should start working soon, but it is not working yet. On the eve, users [00:15:55] in Russia and beyond complained about the [00:15:58] unavailability of the Yandex Taxi application. [00:16:02] A specific situation, I ordered a taxi and it didn't work the first time and [00:16:06] even, that is, like... [00:16:37] and pharmacy and others. Yandex [00:16:40] did not name the full restoration dates for its services, but [00:16:44] promised to complete the work as soon as possible. Engineers are [00:16:48] primarily restoring services that are used by most [00:16:51] people, and continue to work so that all services become [00:16:55] fully available as soon as possible in all regions. The Head [00:16:58] of the Ministry of Digital Development, Maksut Shadaev, believes that Yandex [00:17:01] has faced an unprecedented attack. The restoration [00:17:04] of the company's data centers may take up to... [00:17:28] Armenia, which is very dependent on Yandex Taxi, Yandex [00:17:31] Maps, [00:17:36] but for... [00:19:37] The Kyiv Institute believes that peace is more important than any victory, [00:19:41] 41% believe that victory is more important than any peace, [00:19:44] 57% support a cessation of hostilities [00:19:48] and a search for compromise at negotiations, a third are confident [00:19:51] that hostilities must continue, more than half [00:19:54] of respondents believe that for long-term peace, territorial [00:19:58] concessions can be made, but on condition of security guarantees, [00:20:01] just over a third are against territorial concessions for the sake [00:20:05] of peace. [00:20:07] And about public sentiment against the backdrop of talks [00:20:10] about a possible [00:20:13] air truce, we are talking with political scientist Georgy Chizhov. Georgy, [00:20:16] hello. Hello. What does [00:20:20] sociology show, is peace more important than victory or is victory more important than [00:20:24] peace? It seems that the results [00:20:26] are balanced, but in which direction is the trend [00:20:30] in Ukraine? [00:20:32] I would not pose the question that way at all, what does [00:20:36] peace mean, [00:20:38] to make concessions to Putin, this does not mean peace at all, this [00:20:42] means the continuation of the war under even less favorable conditions for Ukraine, [00:20:45] therefore, in fact, there is no such choice [00:20:49] for Ukrainians, almost everyone is for peace, another thing is that [00:20:53] there is a very clear understanding that if there are no certain [00:20:56] guarantees, if there are no clear [00:20:59] agreements, then no peace will come, this is what [00:21:03] determines, first of all, the mood [00:21:05] of Ukrainians, [00:21:07] because in fact there is no alternative, [00:21:10] no one believes Putin's promises, especially since they are not formulated as [00:21:14] promises, but as abstract wishes, you give us [00:21:18] this, that, and something else, and then we'll think [00:21:22] whether to make peace with you, what choice do Ukrainians [00:21:25] face? [00:21:29] Yes, in fact, there isn't much choice, because [00:21:32] in any case the war is imposed [00:21:36] by the enemy, imposed by the aggressor, so Ukrainians only have to [00:21:39] hold on. Now the urgent task is [00:21:43] to get through this winter season, because [00:21:46] obviously the Kremlin expects that they will somehow manage. [00:22:20] In this sense, of course, Trump's actions can drag out [00:22:22] the war, but in any case it is already clear that there will be no [00:22:26] substantive negotiations before spring, [00:22:30] so we just have to hold on without any choice. And the Minister [00:22:33] of Foreign Affairs of Russia, Sergey Lavrov, says that Russia does not want to give [00:22:37] Zelensky a so-called respite. [00:22:40] What if we imagine that this [00:22:43] respite, let's say, Ukraine gets a respite for the winter, what can [00:22:47] it manage to do this winter, what can [00:22:50] it restore? Well, a lot can be restored, [00:22:54] as we have seen, [00:22:57] the relevant Ukrainian services sometimes demonstrate simply [00:23:00] miracles, well, I cannot say exactly how much [00:23:03] capacity, another question, should they be restored as [00:23:07] before, if you know that in 60 days targeted [00:23:10] bombardments will begin again, perhaps a completely different [00:23:14] infrastructure should be built, this is difficult for Ukraine to understand for now, [00:23:18] to build infrastructure for peacetime... post-war time, or [00:23:21] to expect that this war will last for years, to dig in as much as possible, [00:23:25] well, you understand, completely different costs, completely different [00:23:29] architecture of this infrastructure, and [00:23:31] wartime infrastructure is infrastructure where there are no large warehouses, [00:23:35] large nodes, everything is maximally [00:23:38] decentralized so that it is impossible to destroy [00:23:42] it quickly, this is a serious, of course, [00:23:45] question, I think it is being resolved at the strategic level [00:23:48] in various departments. Vladimir Zelensky has repeatedly [00:23:52] said that Ukraine is ready to agree to a ceasefire, to stop [00:23:56] hitting targets deep in Russia, but [00:23:59] is the political leadership of Ukraine really ready to abandon [00:24:03] this, because this is probably almost the only trump card in [00:24:07] the war, how Ukraine manages [00:24:09] to inflict damage on [00:24:12] Russia? Well, Ukraine proposed several [00:24:16] formats of partial truces, if it no longer gets [00:24:20] to talk about a full truce, an energy truce was proposed, [00:24:24] that is, an exchange of energy infrastructure for energy infrastructure, [00:24:28] this is not entirely symmetrical, because Russian energy [00:24:31] infrastructure is primarily oil refineries [00:24:33] and substations, [00:24:37] not substations, but these nodes, oil transportation [00:24:41] nodes, while Ukrainian [00:24:43] energy infrastructure is power grids and generating [00:24:47] capacities, because oil refining. [00:25:21] That is, Ukraine is ready for a wide variety of partial truce options, [00:25:24] so far all of them are consistently rejected by Russia. Well, I want to show [00:25:28] our viewers a fragment about Russia, about how the strikes [00:25:32] on Yandex, on marketplaces, on refineries, what trend [00:25:36] they create inside the country, and how they affect public [00:25:39] sentiment, we asked sociologist Dmitry Dubrovsky, this is what he told us. [00:25:43] If we talk about fatigue, then it is precisely connected with those [00:25:46] inconveniences with the fact that, in general, of course, Ukraine [00:25:50] achieved the fact that the [00:25:53] agreement that existed, an unwritten one between Putin and [00:25:56] society, was largely violated, because the agreement was [00:26:00] this: nothing changes, we here... [00:26:20] moved the regime, so to speak, into the realm [00:26:23] of tasks, what to do with this? Actually, well, for now, [00:26:27] for now it is quite clear that the regime is not going to do anything about it, it quite [00:26:31] successfully conducted, as it was already called, a special election operation, [00:26:34] a special electoral operation, now it is possible [00:26:37] to endlessly raise taxes, now, in general, one can think about [00:26:40] returning, as it is, a limited [00:26:43] mobilization, yes, therefore, I think that [00:26:46] for now, everything that has happened [00:26:50] does not pose a serious, that is, it poses problems for the regime, but I honestly [00:26:53] do not see a serious threat yet. Georgy, I want to [00:26:56] return to Vladimir Zelensky's words about forcing Vladimir Putin [00:27:00] to peace, the campaign was. [00:28:02] The main driving force of Russia is still the oil and gas [00:28:05] complex, let's note that Ukraine initially did not strike [00:28:09] oil fields. [00:28:11] Well, I might be wrong here, since I'm not an energy specialist, but it seems to me [00:28:15] that it would be simpler to hit [00:28:18] not the whole country, right, but specifically the Khanty-Mansi and [00:28:21] Yamalo-Nenets districts, the oil and gas fields, and Russia [00:28:25] would have long since lost its oil and gas revenues, but [00:28:29] this would indeed have provoked a rise in prices worldwide. [00:28:31] And Ukraine initially does not allow itself [00:28:35] to do this, thank you very much, these are completely empty [00:28:39] talks, can an insignificant amount of [00:28:42] diesel fuel, about which Trump and Putin agreed, change prices at [00:28:46] gas stations in the US? Obviously not. Well, we will, of course, follow up [00:28:50] and tell our viewers everything. Thank you Georgy, political scientist Georgy [00:28:53] Chizhov was with us, we talked about public sentiment in Russia, [00:28:56] Ukraine, how much longer are the countries willing to endure the war. Thank you for watching until the end, share your opinion in the comments, [00:29:00] goodbye. [00:29:21] There is something mystical in the rise of dictators to [00:29:25] the peaks of power and in their [00:29:27] fall. [00:29:30] It seems that not long ago you were ordinary. [00:30:03] Why is she leaving? [00:30:05] Every dictator dreams of ruling forever, and every dictator eventually [00:30:09] comes to an end, be it a natural or [00:30:13] violent end, who or what kills [00:30:15] them? Let's go back to the source.