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[00:00:26] I don't think he deserved a break, air force.
[00:01:30] served, I don't think we will once again
[00:01:34] buy
[00:01:35] into
[00:01:38] assurances, promises, the president very clearly said about this: we
[00:01:42] continue to achieve the goals of the special military
[00:01:44] operation. Nevertheless, the Kremlin says that
[00:01:48] it still maintains contact regarding a truce, but why,
[00:01:51] what are these talks for, and what do ordinary people
[00:01:55] in Russia and Ukraine think about these statements,
[00:01:58] we'll discuss this today live. Face to face with the event. Hello.
[00:02:02] Donald Trump unexpectedly announced that Russia and Ukraine agreed not to
[00:02:06] strike each other's energy infrastructure anymore, and that a truce is already in effect. As
[00:02:10] of now, during the war between Russia and Ukraine,
[00:02:13] an energy truce
[00:02:16] comes into force. Both sides have given their consent, do not violate
[00:02:20] it. Ukrainian President Zelensky said that he hears about
[00:02:23] such an agreement for the first time, although Ukraine is ready to stop strikes if
[00:02:27] Russia does so, and the Kremlin did not respond to Trump's statement. Russia,
[00:02:31] meanwhile, continued attacks, the same day drones
[00:02:34] hit a power plant in Kyiv and energy facilities in the Kharkiv
[00:02:37] region, power went out in parts of the capital.
[00:02:52] Yesterday, it hardly surprised any of us that after
[00:02:54] the sudden but very important post by the American president
[00:02:58] about what he achieved.
[00:03:30] this assumption is considered one-sided: Russia has a large
[00:03:33] network of oil refineries, and Ukraine has only one plant left, which
[00:03:36] is not operating at full capacity, and it is much more important for Ukraine
[00:03:40] that Russia stops hitting its power plants and grids. We
[00:03:43] are ready for an energy truce, so that both sides do not strike
[00:03:47] energy facilities, and if the Russians want us not to
[00:03:51] attack their diesel fuel, their oil refineries, and so
[00:03:55] on, we ask President Trump to give them a signal not
[00:03:58] to attack energy.
[00:04:02] Why does Trump need to save Russian oil refineries? It's clear from how quickly Moscow
[00:04:05] reacted to his diesel deal with Putin. Deputy Prime Minister
[00:04:09] Alexander Novak immediately promised to lift restrictions on diesel
[00:04:13] exports, although the government imposed them to prevent
[00:04:16] fuel shortages within the country, named volumes of 300
[00:04:20] thousand tons in October, 500 thousand in November, and a million in
[00:04:23] December. In the future, the volume could grow to 3 million tons per
[00:04:27] month. The Russian market, meanwhile, will also be
[00:04:31] fully supplied with diesel. For Trump, this diesel is especially important
[00:04:34] right now. Fuel prices in the US have sharply increased, and the midterm
[00:04:38] congressional elections are less than a month away. And to lower prices, the US Treasury
[00:04:42] even lifted sanctions on these supplies until
[00:04:45] April 7, 2027. But diesel is produced at those very plants that
[00:04:49] Ukrainian drones are hitting. And Trump believes that these strikes
[00:04:51] are driving up prices and hitting the American economy.
[00:04:54] On the eve of the truce announcement, he directly accused
[00:04:58] Zelensky of this, answering a journalist.
[00:05:13] Why is diesel expensive in America? Yes, the question
[00:05:15] arises, and the answer is very simple, yes, from
[00:05:19] expensive oil it is impossible to make cheap diesel.
[00:05:22] Accordingly, we need to look for
[00:05:24] the root of the problem in the fact that oil is expensive, why is oil
[00:05:28] expensive, obviously, yes, obviously because of problems in
[00:05:32] the Persian Gulf, the Strait of Hormuz, the Red Sea,
[00:05:36] phew, but, elections are approaching in America,
[00:05:39] and Donald Trump.
[00:06:12] on Russian refineries, the US will stop sharing intelligence with it
[00:06:16] and will block the program under which allies buy
[00:06:19] American weapons for Kyiv. Trump himself, in the same conversation with
[00:06:23] journalists, went further and stated that Ukraine needs
[00:06:26] a different president. Zelensky responded to Trump the next day in an interview
[00:06:30] with the American TV channel ABC News. According to him, Ukrainians
[00:06:33] will decide for themselves whom to elect president, but holding
[00:06:36] elections during wartime is not permitted by law, and if Trump wants
[00:06:40] changes, he should turn to Putin. Putin very much wanted
[00:06:43] to change the president of Ukraine, I understand that, and
[00:06:47] if President Trump really wants some changes as a result
[00:06:50] of elections, I've already told his team about this, so please,
[00:06:54] tell Putin: give us 2 months, 60 days of a full
[00:06:58] ceasefire, 60 days, and we will organize elections,
[00:07:01] of course, we will be ready to accept any choice of our people,
[00:07:05] specifically the Ukrainian people. The Kremlin stated
[00:07:08] that they are not ready for a 2-month truce, according to Trump's special envoys.
[00:07:22] And will Washington seek agreement from Ukraine and Europe? We
[00:07:25] will ask political scientist and journalist Peter Zalmayev. Peter,
[00:07:28] hello, greetings. I
[00:07:31] want to ask you first of all about internal American political factors
[00:07:35] that influence such statements. Has
[00:07:37] Trump managed to satisfy Republican
[00:07:40] voters with his statements about having managed to negotiate with
[00:07:44] the Kremlin to get diesel? You know,
[00:07:48] there are no serious -
[00:07:50] public opinion polls yet, but according to a
[00:07:53] preliminary assessment, it brought
[00:07:56] absolutely nothing to Donald Trump, on the contrary, that still
[00:08:00] modest, but still demarche - a combined
[00:08:03] Republican-Democratic
[00:08:06] demarche in the Senate, and it's about seven, if I'm not mistaken, senators who
[00:08:09] categorically opposed such...
[00:08:12] agreements. In Congress, Republican Brian
[00:08:16] Fitzpatrick from the state of Pennsylvania actually wants
[00:08:19] to push through a resolution that would make such
[00:08:22] deals impossible, referring us to the spirit
[00:08:25] and letter of the law that was adopted in the twenty-second year, which does not
[00:08:29] allow such deals with Russia, and
[00:08:32] the purchase of oil products from Russia. I
[00:08:36] think this will definitely go against Donald Trump, and
[00:08:39] of course, let's not forget, again, returning to... to the amounts
[00:08:43] of diesel, quite insignificant, that were mentioned, that is, 3,000
[00:08:46] first, then 500, a million,
[00:08:50] even if we add all this up, it's about no more than
[00:08:53] a weekly, weekly consumption of diesel
[00:08:57] by the United States of America. This will not
[00:09:00] affect the price of diesel at all, therefore, in the run-up to
[00:09:04] the elections, we cannot say
[00:09:07] that this will in any way help Trump electorally, that
[00:09:11] is, for an American... to drive to a gas station, see that he
[00:09:14] spent 20 or 30 dollars
[00:09:18] less on gas this time to fill the tank
[00:09:21] with gas, this is unlikely to happen, which is why many
[00:09:25] people point out that this is largely
[00:09:28] useless and on the contrary
[00:09:31] can harm Trump, who is now perceived by many as
[00:09:35] openly making a deal with
[00:09:38] Putin, bypassing Ukraine. Trump
[00:09:42] also says that strikes on Russian refineries harm
[00:09:46] American farmers. Do American farmers also
[00:09:49] think that?
[00:09:52] Well, again, how many months has the war been going on in Iran, right? So,
[00:09:56] the war in Iran has been going on
[00:10:00] longer than Ukraine's strikes on Russian oil refineries,
[00:10:03] and even leading, let's not talk now about
[00:10:07] left-liberal channels, which Donald Trump declared
[00:10:11] enemies, not only of himself and Republicans, but of all
[00:10:14] America. The same Fox News, yes, Fox News, which
[00:10:17] is usually quite friendly to the agenda of the American
[00:10:20] president, even there, basically.
[00:10:24] The host literally just
[00:10:27] commenting on this diesel deal, Brian
[00:10:30] Kilmeade said that excuse me, how many months have we
[00:10:33] been discussing the rising prices of diesel as a direct
[00:10:37] result of a prolonged, drawn-out
[00:10:40] war in Iran, now we need to turn
[00:10:43] 180 degrees and talk about Ukraine being to blame for everything,
[00:10:47] even Donald Trump started talking about it quite late, only after
[00:10:50] the rise in diesel prices, it's
[00:10:54] hard to imagine that even such deluded, one might say,
[00:10:57] voters, who are ready to vote for Trump now,
[00:11:01] can perform such a mental trick and start
[00:11:05] believing something else, everyone understands that the reason
[00:11:09] for the
[00:11:12] inflated diesel prices is the war in Iran,
[00:11:16] the blocking of essentially the Strait of Hormuz
[00:11:20] and Donald Trump's inability to get out of
[00:11:23] this adventure yet.
[00:12:25] to cancel arms supplies to Ukraine overnight with a stroke
[00:12:28] of a pen, because that would severely harm
[00:12:32] people, the industry, we're talking about
[00:12:34] weapon manufacturers who are
[00:12:38] serious donors to the Republican party, and again,
[00:12:42] Donald Trump got room to maneuver, this room
[00:12:45] is called Elon Musk, who, as you
[00:12:49] know, spent over 200 million dollars on Trump's re-election,
[00:12:53] after that there were certain...
[00:12:55] misunderstandings, a kind of divorce, now they are trying
[00:12:58] to get back into a warm relationship, it seems he was ready
[00:13:02] to spend again on Republican
[00:13:05] political
[00:13:08] elections for Republicans and so on, this gives
[00:13:11] Donald Trump a little room to maneuver,
[00:13:14] so this industrial complex,
[00:13:17] let's say, has slightly lost, as
[00:13:20] far as its influence is concerned, and yet... where are these
[00:13:24] manufacturers located? They are located in very key
[00:13:27] states, including Ohio, Pennsylvania,
[00:13:30] which for decades have been
[00:13:33] decisive for the outcome of elections, at least
[00:13:37] for presidents and so on, so with this industry, Donald
[00:13:40] Trump has to
[00:13:43] uhm take into account, and let's not forget, the flow of
[00:13:47] weapons has not dried up, weapons continue to be produced, it's just that
[00:13:50] Donald Trump changed the formula, uh-uh, according to
[00:13:53] which these weapons are given.
[00:14:55] Mayev was with us and explained
[00:14:58] Washington's intentions regarding an energy truce
[00:15:02] between Russia and Ukraine. And we, let's look at Russia and
[00:15:05] Ukraine. Strikes continue on Yandex, remembering what happened
[00:15:09] over the weekend from last week, and shelling also continues in Ukraine.
[00:15:13] Let's see what public opinion is on the topic
[00:15:17] of an energy truce and discuss this with a political scientist. On the second
[00:15:20] day after the drone strike on the Yandex data center in Vladimir,
[00:15:25] the company's services continue to operate with limitations.
[00:15:28] Users complain about glitches in Yandex Go, Yandex
[00:15:32] Lavka, Yandex Eda, and other applications. I open
[00:15:36] Yandex Music and want to. click on the text, and
[00:15:39] it shows this text. There are problems in
[00:15:42] the JandexPay system, some money transfers and payments
[00:15:46] are unavailable there. The application is not working and
[00:15:49] it says why this happened, the information
[00:15:53] that money is safe, and
[00:15:56] the application should start working soon, but it's not working yet. The day before, users in
[00:15:59] Russia and beyond complained about
[00:16:02] the unavailability of the Yandex Taxi application. A specific
[00:16:05] situation: I ordered a taxi.
[00:16:43] and others. Yandex did not name the full recovery time
[00:16:47] for its services, but promised to complete the work as soon
[00:16:50] as possible. Engineers are primarily restoring
[00:16:53] services that are used by the most people and continue to work
[00:16:57] so that all services can become available in full as soon as possible
[00:17:00] in all regions. The head of the Ministry of Digital Development, Maksut Shadaev,
[00:17:04] believes that Yandex has faced an
[00:17:06] unprecedented attack, and it could take up to half a year
[00:17:10] to restore the company's data centers. Currently, the Ministry of Digital Development
[00:17:13] and the Ministry of Defense are resolving issues of protecting
[00:17:16] data centers. Strikes on Yandex, meanwhile, affect its
[00:17:19] reputation as a reliable service provider, including
[00:17:23] in countries bordering Russia, say IT experts. I think
[00:17:25] this was quite a telling story,
[00:17:29] especially for countries like Kazakhstan, Armenia, which are very
[00:17:33] heavily dependent on Yandex.Taxi,
[00:17:36] Yandex.Maps.
[00:17:38] Hmm, but for Yandex, of course, this means
[00:17:42] that there will probably be no more expansion, and
[00:17:45] of course, it will be the opposite, a shrinking
[00:17:48] space of influence and refusal of foreign
[00:17:50] users from services that have already
[00:17:54] failed once like this. A fresh Levada Center
[00:17:57] poll from October 6 shows that 2/3
[00:18:01] of Russians are already in favor of transitioning to peace negotiations.
[00:18:04] Approval of army actions remains at the level of seven.
[00:18:20] Those polled by Reuters in the streets of Moscow believe that a truce could also be beneficial for the US in the run-up to the elections. He is also hoped
[00:18:23] for, he said so today, and tomorrow it will be different, although it is
[00:18:26] probably beneficial for him to conclude a truce with us now.
[00:18:30] Uh-huh.
[00:18:32] Yes, why? Why? Well, he's not a fool either, he understands that without
[00:18:36] Russia, they can't go anywhere. Not Europe, not America,
[00:18:39] no one, and then he has midterm elections, he needs to somehow
[00:18:43] show himself, and a poll
[00:18:46] by the Kyiv International Institute of Sociology shows that more than
[00:18:49] 60% of Ukrainians are ready for a long
[00:18:52] war, and only 23% are ready
[00:18:55] to endure for a maximum of six months. As for possible
[00:18:59] elections during wartime, Ukrainians are extremely
[00:19:02] skeptical, no one has the right
[00:19:05] to tell us what to do, especially elections cannot be held
[00:19:09] during wartime, in my opinion, this is a betrayal on the part of our
[00:19:13] partners, it is a betrayal, as I see it, it is a betrayal of partners, we still
[00:19:16] live in a regime, we live in wartime conditions and
[00:19:20] should not take every word on the international arena at face
[00:19:23] value. As for Trump's agreement, today he
[00:19:27] may offer one thing, and tomorrow something else, there have been
[00:19:30] too many cases when a ceasefire
[00:19:34] or truce was announced, but... they still
[00:19:37] attacked. 50% of those polled by the Kyiv
[00:19:41] Institute believe that peace is more important than any victory.
[00:19:44] 41% believe that victory is more important than any peace.
[00:19:48] 57% support stopping hostilities
[00:19:52] and seeking compromise in negotiations. A third are confident
[00:19:55] that hostilities must continue. More than half
[00:19:58] of respondents believe that for lasting peace, territorial
[00:20:01] concessions can be made, but on condition of security guarantees.
[00:20:05] Just over a third are against it.
[00:20:11] and about public sentiment against the background of talks
[00:20:13] about a possible air
[00:20:16] truce, we are speaking with political scientist Georgy Chizhov. Georgy,
[00:20:20] hello, hello. What does
[00:20:24] sociology show, is peace more important than victory or is victory more important
[00:20:27] than peace? It seems the results are
[00:20:30] balanced, but in which direction is the trend going in
[00:20:33] Ukraine?
[00:20:36] I wouldn't put the question like that at all, what, what, what does peace mean?
[00:20:40] Yes, uh, making concessions to Putin, this does not mean
[00:20:44] any peace, it means the continuation of the war on
[00:20:47] even less favorable conditions for Ukraine. So, in fact,
[00:20:51] there is no such choice, Ukrainians are almost all for
[00:20:55] peace, another thing is that there is a very clear understanding that
[00:20:58] if there are no certain guarantees,
[00:21:01] if there are no clear agreements, then no peace will
[00:21:05] come, that is what primarily determines the mood
[00:21:09] of Ukrainians,
[00:21:11] because in fact there is no alternative,
[00:21:14] no one believes Putin's promises, especially since they are not formulated as
[00:21:18] promises, they are just abstract...
[00:22:20] hostilities and everything can settle down, in this
[00:22:23] sense, of course, Trump's actions can prolong
[00:22:26] the war, but in any case it is already obvious that there will be no substantive
[00:22:30] negotiations before spring, so
[00:22:33] we just have to hold on without any choice. And the Russian Foreign Minister,
[00:22:37] Sergei Lavrov, says that Russia does not want
[00:22:41] to give Zelensky a so-called respite.
[00:22:44] What if we imagine that this
[00:22:47] is a respite, let's say, Ukraine gets a respite.
[00:23:20] About Ukraine, it's difficult to understand yet, whether to build infrastructure for a peaceful
[00:23:23] post-war time, or to assume that this war will last for many
[00:23:27] years, burying themselves as deeply as possible in the ground, well, you understand, completely
[00:23:30] different costs, completely different architecture of this
[00:23:33] infrastructure, while wartime infrastructure is
[00:23:37] infrastructure where there are no large warehouses, large hubs, everything
[00:23:40] is maximally decentralized,
[00:23:43] so that it is impossible to quickly destroy it, this
[00:23:47] is a serious, of course, question, I think it is currently being solved
[00:23:50] at the strategic level in various departments.
[00:23:54] Vladimir Zelensky has repeatedly stated that Ukraine is ready
[00:23:57] to agree to a ceasefire, to stop striking
[00:24:00] targets deep inside Russia, but is Ukraine's political
[00:24:04] leadership really ready to abandon this? After all, this is,
[00:24:08] perhaps, almost the only trump card in the war,
[00:24:11] how does Ukraine manage to inflict damage
[00:24:15] on Russia?
[00:24:18] Well, Ukraine has proposed several formats of partial
[00:24:21] truces, if it's not possible to talk about a full
[00:24:24] truce, they propose an energy truce, meaning
[00:24:27] an exchange of energy infrastructure for energy infrastructure, but
[00:24:31] it's not entirely symmetrical, because Russian energy
[00:24:34] infrastructure is primarily oil refineries and
[00:24:38] substations,
[00:24:40] not substations, but these nodes, nodes for transporting
[00:24:44] oil, while Ukrainian
[00:24:47] energy infrastructure is networks.
[00:25:20] 100 km from the contact line, from the
[00:25:23] front line, that is, Ukraine is ready for a wide variety
[00:25:26] of partial truce options, but so far all of them are consistently rejected
[00:25:30] by Russia. Well, I want to show our viewers a little about Russia,
[00:25:34] a fragment about how the strikes on Yandex, on
[00:25:37] marketplaces, on refineries, what trend
[00:25:40] they create within the country, how they affect public
[00:25:43] sentiment, we asked sociologist Dmitry Dubrovsky, here's what he told us:
[00:25:47] if we talk about fatigue, then it's precisely...
[00:26:32] not going to do anything about it, he quite successfully carried out, as colleagues
[00:26:36] have already called it, a special electoral operation, a special electoral
[00:26:39] operation, now it's possible to raise taxes indefinitely, now in
[00:26:42] general it's possible to think about the return of, as it
[00:26:45] were, limited mobilization, so
[00:26:48] I think that for now everything that
[00:26:52] was is not a serious problem, meaning it poses
[00:26:55] a problem for the regime, but I don't honestly see a serious
[00:26:58] threat yet. Georgy, I want to go back to Vladimir
[00:27:02] Zelensky's words about forcing Vladimir Putin to peace, there was a campaign,
[00:27:06] facilities deep within Russia were shelled, is there an effect,
[00:27:10] are there any changes at the political level in Russia, are there new tasks
[00:27:14] for the Kremlin, but
[00:27:16] can we draw any interim conclusions, was there any point
[00:27:19] in influencing Vladimir
[00:27:21] Putin in this way?
[00:27:24] There was probably a point, no one knows the recipe in advance, right, it's not like
[00:27:27] there is, there is one true path,
[00:27:31] which is important.
[00:28:02] conducting, expanding it somehow,
[00:28:05] the Achilles' heel of Russia so far turns out to be precisely the oil and gas
[00:28:09] complex. Let's note that Ukraine initially did not strike
[00:28:13] fields, well, I might be wrong here, as I'm not
[00:28:15] an energy specialist, but it seems to me
[00:28:19] that it would have been easier to hit not across
[00:28:22] the whole country, right, but purposefully at the Khanty-Mansiysk and Yamalo-Nenets
[00:28:25] districts, at oil and gas fields, and Russia would have
[00:28:29] long ago lost its oil and gas revenues. But this
[00:28:32] would indeed have provoked a rise in prices worldwide, and
[00:28:36] Ukraine initially did not allow itself to do that. Thank you
[00:28:39] very much, these are completely empty talks. Can
[00:28:43] a insignificant amount of diesel fuel, which Trump
[00:28:46] and Putin agreed on, change prices at gas stations in the US? Obviously not,
[00:28:49] and we will of course keep an eye on it, we will definitely tell our viewers everything.
[00:28:53] Thank you, Georgy, political scientist Georgy Chizhov was with us, we talked about public
[00:28:57] sentiments in Russia and Ukraine, how much longer are the countries willing
[00:29:00] to endure the war? Thank you for...
[00:30:02] where power goes, why it
[00:30:05] goes away? Every dictator dreams of ruling
[00:30:08] forever, and every dictator, sooner or later, comes to an end,
[00:30:12] whether it's a natural or violent end, who or what kills
[00:30:16] them? Let's go back to Stop!
[00:30:41] This small village in Kaluga region stands among
[00:30:44] forests and fields, just 4 km from a high-speed paved
[00:30:48] highway, along which cars rush by with a roar,
[00:30:51] but in the village of Krichina there is
[00:30:54] silence, no cars drive here, no trains run here, and to...
[00:30:58] машины, сюда не ходят поезда, и до...