DDNEWS — Charcha Mein
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[00:00:03] transport system.
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[00:01:24] the most horrific type of accident.
[00:01:47] Hello, welcome to DD News, I am Gaurav Srivastava with you and
[00:01:51] you are watching our special program Charcha Mein. The speed of Indian Railways,
[00:01:55] which carries thousands of passengers to their destination,
[00:01:59] is as great as the responsibility of its safety.
[00:02:02] Now, in this security system, the role of modern technology
[00:02:06] with our special guests is continuously increasing along with human vigilance.
[00:02:10] In this direction,
[00:02:13] Saathi, always with both of you. Kavach 4.0 has been approved for installation
[00:02:16] on 607.7 route kilometers of railway track
[00:02:19] in the Lucknow division of North
[00:02:22] to fight every monster comes, Eastern Railway, which will cost more than ₹252 crore.
[00:02:25] This automatic train protection system,
[00:02:28] developed in India, monitors the train's speed, location,
[00:02:32] and signal status and alerts the loco pilot
[00:02:36] in case of danger, as well as assisting
[00:02:39] with braking when needed. RFID
[00:02:42] tags on the track, optical fiber and communication
[00:02:45] network, loco Kavach installed in the engine,
[00:02:48] station Kavach and signaling
[00:02:52] system - all these together create a high-tech
[00:02:56] network for train safety. In Kavach 4.0, capabilities
[00:02:59] such as location accuracy, signal information in large railway yards,
[00:03:03] and integration with electronic interlocking have been further improved.
[00:03:06] This means that railway safety is no longer limited
[00:03:10] to tracks and signals, but rather
[00:03:13] a complete safety chain
[00:03:17] from train to track and station to control system
[00:03:21] is being formed, and this kind of system shows how the high-tech railway system
[00:03:25] is continuously growing. So today we will discuss
[00:03:29] this system with a special guest and tell you what
[00:03:32] has happened in Indian Railways and in Uttar Pradesh,
[00:03:35] where we are continuously seeing the expansion of Northern Eastern Railway
[00:03:39] and its high-tech systems. What is going on there,
[00:03:43] because the high-tech direction in railways
[00:03:47] is continuously growing, and that is why, in terms of technology
[00:03:50] and even how a safe
[00:03:54] structure can be built, the railway is continuously
[00:03:57] working effectively on this. And all this is happening
[00:04:01] because there is a continuous direct focus on it. So let's start
[00:04:05] our special program Charcha Mein and know
[00:04:09] every small and big thing related to it.
[00:04:14] such efforts are also being made
[00:04:16] To carry out this work,
[00:04:24] are all coordinating A new initiative has been taken to further strengthen safety
[00:04:28] in rail operations. Approval has been given
[00:04:32] to install Kavach 4.0 on more than 600
[00:04:36] route kilometers in the Lucknow section of Northern Railway. The cost of this project
[00:04:39] is more than 250 crores.
[00:04:41] safety will increase, The Ministry of Railways has said that the approved project
[00:04:44] will expand Kavach 4.0 in the remaining identified sections.
[00:04:48] This will further strengthen the available security
[00:04:51] infrastructure for rail operations. Kavach is an indigenously
[00:04:54] developed automatic train protection system, designed
[00:04:58] to improve operational safety. This system helps
[00:05:01] prevent passing signals by automatically applying brakes
[00:05:05] as needed at the point of danger. It assists in safe traffic
[00:05:09] by monitoring rail operations. Kavach 4.2 is the newest
[00:05:13] and most advanced version of this system.
[00:05:16] It has been continuously developed through technical upgrades
[00:05:20] based on operational feedback and independent safety assessments.
[00:05:23] So, such systems are being seen continuously,
[00:05:26] and that is why this upgrade is being prepared
[00:05:30] continuously for Kavach, because Indian Railways
[00:05:34] is constantly vigilant, and that is why
[00:05:37] all technical facilities should be available to passengers,
[00:05:41] and most importantly, how much safety should be observed
[00:05:45] there and how safe their journey can be. For this, such efforts are continuously being made.
[00:05:49] We have continuously seen an increase in Indian Railways. If we talk
[00:05:53] about the budget, it has also been increased year after year,
[00:05:56] because ever since they were connected to high-tech systems
[00:06:00] in terms of technology, a new role has been preserved
[00:06:03] for even more high-tech systems, and all this has become important
[00:06:07] because Indian Railways is continuously moving forward,
[00:06:11] and as this fast pace continues, all kinds of activities
[00:06:14] are being done to provide a safe and comfortable journey,
[00:06:18] and continuous focus is being placed on this. Focus is being placed on its infrastructure,
[00:06:22] and for this, there are many important points
[00:06:25] that are being seen, and
[00:06:29] that is why we are continuously seeing what
[00:06:32] the current situation is saying. So in such a situation,
[00:06:36] if we look clearly,
[00:06:40] this shows a big initiative in itself. So in such a situation,
[00:06:43] this is very important, and apart from this,
[00:06:47] all the other activities are also being seen,
[00:06:51] that how it is moving towards
[00:06:53] much improvement.
[00:07:00] And there are some more important facts that we will introduce you to,
[00:07:04] but before that, some special guests have joined us. Let me introduce them to you.
[00:07:08] Let me tell you that Anil Kumar Khandelwal, former member, Infrastructure, Railway Board,
[00:07:12] is joining us, and also Mohammad Jamshed is joining us, former member, Traffic,
[00:07:16] Railway Board. So let's start
[00:07:19] and know what kind of situation
[00:07:23] is currently being seen here. First of all, I will turn to you
[00:07:27] and ask you how this continuous promotion of infrastructure
[00:07:30] is being seen, these technical
[00:07:34] things that are being seen, and clearly, how important Kavach 4.0
[00:07:36] appears to be.
[00:07:39] Namaskar Gaurav ji and all the viewers.
[00:07:42] Kavach further strengthens
[00:07:46] the motto of Indian Railways to provide safe
[00:07:50] travel. This will further
[00:07:53] help us in safely transporting our passengers and goods
[00:07:57] from one place to another. As you just mentioned,
[00:08:00] when trains run on the same line,
[00:08:04] sometimes two trains come on the same line, then
[00:08:08] the train stops automatically with automatic braking.
[00:08:12] Similarly, if a train is going on a loop line and
[00:08:15] due to human error the point is set incorrectly,
[00:08:19] then the speed will automatically decrease and it will enter the loop line
[00:08:22] at the same speed of 30 kilometers per hour. So, this kind of system
[00:08:26] has been developed very quickly by the engineers of Indian Railways.
[00:08:29] In July 2024, we
[00:08:33] finalized the specification of Kavach 4.0,
[00:08:37] and within one year, it was launched
[00:08:40] and
[00:08:43] deployed in the field. As of today, Kavach
[00:08:47] 4.0 has been deployed for almost 5,000
[00:08:50] kilometers, whereas if we compare it
[00:08:54] with the comparative technology of ETCS 2
[00:08:57] in the world, it has been installed for about 90,000 kilometers
[00:09:01] across Europe, but there it was deployed for about 15-16,
[00:09:05] roughly 2,000 to 300 kilometers,
[00:09:09] and only recently has it reached 10,000 kilometers.
[00:09:13] Whereas Indian Railways made specifications in July
[00:09:17] and has now deployed it very quickly, and it has reached 5,000 kilometers.
[00:09:20] Tenders for 25,000 kilometers
[00:09:23] have been finalized, and work is progressing rapidly.
[00:09:28] RDSO, Railway Board,
[00:09:32] and a special cell created in Hyderabad
[00:09:37] with their agencies. This is a completely indigenous
[00:09:41] technology, and
[00:10:12] efforts are being made to gradually overcome this human error,
[00:10:16] and Kavach 4.0 is
[00:10:19] an initiative in that direction,
[00:10:22] and Indian Railways is working rapidly on it. Okay, Jamshed ji, as
[00:10:26] we are seeing that in the current era, we are seeing that these high-tech
[00:10:30] systems are being made even more high-tech. How will it play a big role
[00:10:34] in traffic control? How is it being operated,
[00:10:38] and how will this budget that has been sanctioned, which we will see
[00:10:41] in the coming time, how its roadmap will also run
[00:10:45] at a faster pace on the ground? What is the entire infrastructure
[00:10:49] designed for it, and in terms of connectivity
[00:10:53] and also traffic advisory and traffic control,
[00:10:56] how important will it be? Thank you
[00:11:00] Gaurav for inviting me here. This is a very important issue,
[00:11:03] and most importantly, it is related to safety,
[00:11:07] because Indian Railways is a very safe mode of transportation, and it is also an economical mode of
[00:11:11] transportation in itself. As far as Kavach is concerned,
[00:11:14] we cannot talk about the entire accident. Accidents are of
[00:11:18] three or four types. The most important
[00:11:22] consequential accident is collision.
[00:11:25] Collision happens when the driver
[00:11:28] crosses a signal that is red, because the driver has total control,
[00:11:32] so it is possible that due to human error,
[00:11:36] he might cross the signal. Crossing the signal means
[00:11:39] that you will have a collision with a train standing ahead.
[00:11:42] This type of accident, the collision one,
[00:11:46] causes the most deaths. This is
[00:11:49] This Kavach is to prevent this accident.
[00:11:53] There will be many other allied
[00:11:57] things in the coming days, such as these things will also protect
[00:12:00] at high speeds, but the most important thing is that it will protect against collisions. Its trial
[00:12:04] started in 2016, by 2018-19,
[00:12:07] later in 2024, RDSO approved it again,
[00:12:11] then the version of Kavach 4 came, and the version of Kavach 4
[00:12:14] is also going to be implemented. Khandelwal ji just said that
[00:12:18] it is going to be more than 25,000 kilometers in many places, but we want to see
[00:12:21] as soon as possible that this Kavach has been installed here,
[00:12:25] it has come in all locomotives, it has come on the track side,
[00:12:29] and now the chances of such a collision, any accident,
[00:12:33] have been completely eliminated. Our Capex is 2,9300 crore,
[00:12:36] the budget for capital expenditure, this is the highest
[00:12:40] till now, which used to be 20-30 thousand 10 years ago,
[00:12:44] it has now increased to around 2-3 lakh crore,
[00:12:47] and our revenue of 3 lakh crore is also generated, so it is very essential
[00:12:51] that out of 3 lakh crore, more than 1 lakh crore is being spent
[00:12:55] on safety, and the safety record has also improved a lot,
[00:12:58] as you might know, if we talk about a figure
[00:13:02] that we always mention, which is a global figure
[00:13:05] that how many accidents per million
[00:13:09] train kilometers, that figure used to be
[00:13:11] 0.11, it has now dropped
[00:13:15] to 0.01. So Indian Railways' safety record
[00:13:19] at this time stands among the best safety records
[00:13:22] in the world's major railway systems.
[00:13:25] Absolutely, Anil ji, the question is, as we are seeing now,
[00:13:29] we are talking about Northern Eastern Railway, which clearly shows UP and Lucknow.
[00:13:33] Apart from this, we are seeing that such activities
[00:13:36] are being accelerated across the country on different forums.
[00:13:40] What kind of roadmap has been kept, and how is it proving
[00:13:44] to be very effective for security purposes?
[00:13:47] Because different states have different circumstances,
[00:13:51] and the ground situations there are different,
[00:13:55] so how is it being implemented there?
[00:13:59] Gaurav ji, more than 40% of Indian Railways'
[00:14:02] traffic runs on only 16%
[00:14:06] of tracks, which is called the Golden Quadrilateral and Diagonal.
[00:14:10] So, the implementation of Kavach has also been started
[00:14:13] in a phased manner. First, Delhi-Mumbai and Delhi-Howrah.
[00:14:17] In this, about 85% of the length of work
[00:14:21] has been completed. This
[00:14:24] total of about 2500 kilometers of work has been completed.
[00:14:27] Yes, and after this,
[00:14:31] tenders for the entire Golden Quadrilateral and Diagonals have been finalized, because more trains run here.
[00:14:35] So, as Jamshed sir just said,
[00:14:38] if there is a human error on the same track and
[00:14:42] due to signal failure or any wrong
[00:14:45] operation, two trains come on one track, then
[00:14:49] with this system, the train will automatically apply brakes 300
[00:14:52] meters away and stop. And the most
[00:14:56] dangerous accident, which we call collision,
[00:14:59] which Jamshed ji just mentioned, we can avoid all that with this.
[00:15:03] So, along with the speed of the train,
[00:15:06] and with safety, public confidence will increase
[00:15:09] that yes, our trains are safe and are becoming safer.
[00:15:13] Absolutely, the expenditure on infrastructure, as you all know,
[00:15:16] the budget was merged in 2017. Before the budget was merged,
[00:15:20] when the railway budget was separate, the infrastructure budget
[00:15:24] used to be 2000-3000 crore. Today, as Jamshed ji said,
[00:15:27] we have reached 3 lakh crore, and in all directions,
[00:15:31] along with Kavach, railways is working in all other directions
[00:15:35] to provide a safe
[00:15:40] The motto of Indian Railways is Safety First,
[00:15:44] Always First. Our aim is that we
[00:15:47] bring accidents to zero. As Jamshed ji just said,
[00:15:50] we have reduced it by 120%,
[00:15:54] a lot, but our aim is to reach zero,
[00:15:57] and for that, all these modern
[00:16:00] technologies are being used more and more. Definitely, these are all such
[00:16:04] things that are making them more high-tech. The effort is to use even more advanced
[00:16:08] technology that will also provide convenience to people
[00:17:40] Welcome back after the break. Let's tell you through some more figures
[00:17:44] what has happened and how continuous progress
[00:17:47] is continuously moving forward. Let us tell you what will change with the approval
[00:17:51] of Kavach 4.0 in the strong security of the railway.
[00:17:55] What is the current situation and what is the roadmap for the future?
[00:17:58] Actually, the approval to install Kavach 4.0
[00:18:02] in the Lucknow section of North Eastern Railway in UP
[00:18:05] marks a major turning point in itself. Kavach 4.0 will be installed
[00:18:09] on approximately 607.7 route kilometers of railway track,
[00:18:12] and this will significantly increase safety. This means
[00:18:16] that it is very important from a security point of view.
[00:18:20] More than ₹252 crore will be spent on this project,
[00:18:23] and such a budget has also been allocated.
[00:18:27] In addition, Kavach 4.0 will also be expanded
[00:18:31] in the remaining identified parts of the Lucknow section,
[00:18:34] which will play a big role in itself. Apart from this,
[00:18:38] Kavach 4.0 is also promoting the indigenous
[00:18:42] automatic rail protection system developed in India, because in the current situation,
[00:18:46] efforts are clearly being made to make it more high-tech.
[00:18:49] It monitors train operations and signal status,
[00:18:53] and clearly focuses on preventing any kind of activity
[00:18:57] or incident. In case of danger,
[00:19:01] it helps in applying brakes automatically if needed, and it not only applies brakes
[00:19:04] but also provides some signals that somehow reach
[00:19:08] where related activities
[00:19:12] are seen. In such a situation, its purpose is to help prevent
[00:19:15] the train from crossing a point of danger or a signal, which in itself
[00:19:19] shows a great example of how the purpose of safety
[00:19:22] has been kept here, and that is why these figures become very important.
[00:19:25] Kavach 4.0 is the new and more advanced
[00:19:29] version of the Kavach system, and that is why we are now seeing
[00:19:32] how it grew after its implementation started
[00:19:36] in 2015, because it was upgraded
[00:19:39] based on operational experience, feedback, and independent
[00:19:43] safety, and this upgrade is continuously growing, because we are seeing a special focus
[00:19:46] on technology, whether it is Artificial Intelligence or other things,
[00:19:52] to make railway connectivity stronger and more robust,
[00:19:56] so that something else can be implemented to show the picture of change
[00:19:59] and upgrade it. In such a situation, with this expansion, the existing
[00:20:03] infrastructure for rail safety in the Lucknow section
[00:20:07] has become even stronger. So all the efforts
[00:20:11] are visible, and all this shows how vigilant the railway is
[00:20:14] about making the journey safe and comfortable for people.
[00:20:18] This is clearly being focused on. Two special guests
[00:20:21] are continuously with us. Jamshed ji, I am turning to you,
[00:20:25] and as we are seeing that the high-tech system is being made high-tech,
[00:20:29] but the current era is also seeing Artificial Intelligence.
[00:20:32] So should we assume that such situations can also be seen
[00:20:36] where it will be further upgraded and such signals
[00:20:39] will be made even stronger by connecting it with Artificial Intelligence?
[00:20:43] First of all, we would like to say that apart from our busy routes,
[00:20:47] Golden Quadrilateral and Diagonals, this is such a system,
[00:20:50] such a security system, because of which, wherever
[00:20:54] a train is running, even if it is a train connecting
[00:20:59] if a collision happens and passengers are injured
[00:21:03] in it, then this is a very big thing, so it can be implemented anywhere,
[00:21:07] and as you just mentioned, the Lucknow
[00:21:10] Division of North Eastern Railway has been covered
[00:21:13] for 607 km at a cost of 252 crore. Before this, just two months
[00:21:17] ago, on August 12, the North
[00:21:50] Vande Bharat trial was done on 160 km,
[00:21:53] on this Kavach, and it was successful. Similarly,
[00:21:57] it has connectivity with optic fiber
[00:22:00] with control rooms, so this is a very modern version,
[00:22:04] and as Khandelwal ji said, it has been there in Europe for a long time,
[00:22:08] but its expansion, that kind of proliferation, has not happened yet.
[00:22:12] The automatic train protection system in Mumbai's suburban system
[00:22:15] has been there for a very long time, even before independence,
[00:22:19] and it is still going on. The improvements
[00:22:22] we are making will cover 6800 kilometers of route
[00:22:25] and will ensure the safety of railways and passengers
[00:22:29] across India. Absolutely, Anil ji,
[00:22:33] the question is that in the upgradation we are seeing,
[00:22:37] there are also talks of more upgradation. What technology will we see
[00:22:40] in the more updated version? What new things are being added,
[00:22:44] if we talk from the railway's perspective? Yes, Gaurav ji,
[00:22:48] as you just wanted to know
[00:22:50] about AI implementation, so in the Kavach that has been developed,
[00:22:54] the engineers of Indian Railways have just
[00:22:56] developed a universal braking algorithm with
[00:23:00] the help of AI
[00:23:03] and our engineers of Indian Railways.
[00:23:07] In this, earlier when we used to test
[00:23:10] braking, we have hundreds of types of coaches,
[00:23:14] many types of engines, many types of wagons,
[00:23:18] so their braking distances are all different.
[00:24:21] And in this way, it has been certified by international
[00:24:24] safety assessors. This is the first time that any system of Indian Railways
[00:24:28] has been certified by international
[00:24:31] safety assessors, and this is SIL 4 certified. So in this way,
[00:24:35] and for its central control, where it has been implemented,
[00:24:38] CRIS has just developed a software called Suraksha
[00:24:42] which centrally monitors its progress
[00:24:46] and implementation with the help of AI.
[00:24:49] So our Indian engineers are taking it towards
[00:24:52] faster modernization and implementation. Absolutely,
[00:24:55] and for the coming time, we can say
[00:24:59] that it will show a very strong security system.
[00:25:02] Jamshed ji, the question that we are seeing
[00:25:06] is that there are still many questions in mind that
[00:25:10] the current working system and the continuous increase
[00:25:14] in Kavach will be seen in the coming time. So in such a situation,
[00:25:17] Kavach 4.0, is its outline being kept for the future?
[00:25:21] Where can it be implemented in the coming time? As we just saw,
[00:25:24] its implementation is being done in UP and clearly
[00:25:28] around the Lucknow section. Apart from this, if we talk about
[00:25:32] different corners of the country, how is it being expanded there?
[00:25:35] Has any outline been determined for that as well? Gaurav ji,
[00:25:38] there are many parameters, there are many parameters,
[00:25:42] in which Kavach is one. Apart from Kavach, there is talk of automatic signaling.
[00:25:46] Apart from that, we are talking about grade separators
[00:25:50] so that safety can be ensured in every way. This is also necessary
[00:25:53] so that all our targets,
[00:25:56] our freight and passenger
[00:26:00] transportation targets, are also met, and the financial health
[00:26:04] of Indian Railways should also be ensured at the same time,
[00:26:07] because accident is such a thing that whenever even one accident happens,
[00:26:11] not only is there loss of life and property, but the disruption of traffic
[00:26:17] For doing this, first of all, all the busy routes,
[00:26:21] the Golden Quadrilateral as I mentioned, and its six diagonal routes,
[00:26:24] apart from these, Kavach is coming on the busy high-density routes,
[00:26:28] and at the same time, as I said, identified sections like the North Eastern,
[00:26:31] which is a very heavy passenger-oriented section, such sections are also
[00:26:35] being picked up, and I think that the way Indian Railways
[00:26:39] with a Capex of 3 lakh crore will be spent,
[00:26:43] in which around 1.25 lakh crore will be spent on safety,
[00:26:46] and it is happening every year, this year also the progress is very good,
[00:26:50] so we will ensure 100% safety. Absolutely, because the budget is continuously increasing,
[00:26:53] and this is all that is there, that is why all the technology
[00:26:57] is also being used to make the journey of passengers
[00:27:00] easy and also safe.
[00:27:02] So for this, the efforts are going on at a fast pace, and that is why this approval
[00:27:06] will take another decisive turn in the coming time,
[00:27:10] and keeping in mind the safety of passengers, their journey will be very safe.
[00:27:14] Thank you very much Anil ji and Jamshed ji for joining us
[00:27:18] and for having a detailed discussion with us here. So with this,
[00:27:21] in today's topic of Charcha Mein, that's all for now. In this special
[00:27:25] presentation, that's all for now. Give permission to our entire team.
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