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[00:00:01] Magnus and stuff, it was something where people showed or sent
[00:00:05] videos of them smashing other people and stuff. The friends here
[00:00:09] who are 19 years old also know about the unpleasant videos online. I
[00:00:12] have a couple of friends who have experienced it before, and have also seen things they
[00:00:16] probably don't really want to see. But environments that celebrate extreme violence have
[00:00:20] become a phenomenon online. School shooters, who
[00:00:24] get such a, yes, saint status. Ask Hesby
[00:00:26] Holm follows the so-called NVE networks. It stands for
[00:00:30] nihilistic violent extremism.
[00:00:32] Status, you get it through violence, so the more violent
[00:00:36] you are, the more cruel it actually is, the higher
[00:00:40] status you get. He shows how a seemingly innocent account
[00:00:43] from, for example, the children's game Roblox, can cover something completely
[00:00:47] different. There are some who have built a game with the
[00:00:51] purpose of catching young people and
[00:00:54] radicalizing them. And it can be a game that
[00:00:57] shows or is completely built around
[00:01:00] a terrorist attack. They break down one's
[00:01:03] relationship with what is right and wrong and normal. Shortly before the summer holidays,
[00:01:07] the police intelligence service for the first time described NVE in their
[00:01:11] threat assessment. Of course, there is a general concern about what they are doing,
[00:01:15] because they are terrible things they are flirting
[00:01:18] with.
[00:01:21] And then a couple of months later, we are ready with a TV news. Last Monday,
[00:01:25] the police announced that they had arrested and charged three boys aged 15
[00:01:29] to 16 years for attempted terrorism against a school in
[00:01:32] Hasten. The alleged goal was to injure and kill several
[00:01:36] people by using knives and bombs as weapons. According to
[00:01:40] their information, the boys were precisely connected to the violence-promoting
[00:01:44] NVE environments. For 14-year-old Elias,
[00:01:48] it was only a brief encounter with the violent videos. After
[00:01:52] 10 meetings, I left the group. And
[00:01:55] then I unfriended Magnus from Snapchat and that was that. I
[00:01:59] didn't hear from him again or anything. And from the home-schooled boys online,
[00:02:02] the good advice comes. Either talk to a friend about it, or tell
[00:02:06] your parents, you can always block people. And
[00:02:10] you're back again, Christian Mogensen. This boy
[00:02:12] quickly ran away, but who is at risk of being caught in these
[00:02:16] networks?
[00:02:19] What we typically see that
[00:02:21] are definitely not the biggest of attracts young men to these networks is that they often offer a very
[00:02:24] easy solution or a very easy answer to some of the very big, complex
[00:02:28] questions you are wrestling with. At 14, 15, 16 years old, what does my
[00:02:32] future look like, who should I become, what should I do, what does success look like, and how will I ever
[00:02:35] be happy. These groups offer a very, very simple answer, and if there are no
[00:02:39] other arenas in your life that offer you an anchoring in
[00:02:43] society or something to aim for, then it seems alluring to listen
[00:02:47] to what is being said in these kinds of groups. These are very relevant
[00:02:50] questions you are asking here, which can come from young people, but how
[00:02:54] can it lead to people gathering around violence and
[00:02:57] extremism?
[00:03:00] What is anchored in these nihilistic violence-ready
[00:03:03] communities is that, well, it's nihilism, it's that all
[00:03:07] the rules, all the morality we have built on top of society,
[00:03:11] it doesn't apply if you don't believe that society will be there in a couple of years. And when these young
[00:03:14] people gather in groups where they tell each other that, well, look at
[00:03:18] the corruption, look at the climate, look at the culture, everything is wrong, we have no
[00:03:22] future, then the rules must necessarily also fall away, and
[00:03:25] then the only thing left is the digital attention culture,
[00:03:29] where... What works is how much attention you can get, and there we are as
[00:03:33] human beings, as animal beings designed to, that is, violence and
[00:03:36] extreme content, it attracts, and when there is nothing else left, then
[00:03:40] it also necessarily gives a form of status. So finally, what is your
[00:03:44] best advice if we are to combat this?
[00:03:46] Well, I would like to say that we could start by fixing all the
[00:03:48] problems I listed earlier, but
[00:03:52] the very best thing we can do as parents, as educators or
[00:03:55] teachers, or adults who are near young people, is to talk to them
[00:03:59] and tell them that all their worries, that the world will not be there in
[00:04:03] 10 years or that they have no future, there are so many of us who are working hard to ensure
[00:04:06] that it doesn't end that way. This was from Christian Mogensen, thank you for being
[00:04:10] with
[00:04:11] us.
[00:04:15] Danish People's Party chairman Morten Messersmitt is now facing harsh criticism
[00:04:19] for meeting with a pro-Russian right-wing politician from
[00:04:21] Montenegro. On Monday, Messmed Vladislav
[00:04:25] Dajkovic gave a private tour of Christiansborg,
[00:04:28] and he himself explains.
[00:04:36] The pictures here are from a video Vladislav Dajkovic posted on
[00:04:40] his Instagram profile. On Monday, the Montenegrin
[00:04:43] right-wing politician received a private tour of Parliament from
[00:04:47] Danish People's Party chairman Morten Messer Smith. But this is highly
[00:04:51] reprehensible, according to both the Social Democrats and
[00:04:54] JF, because Dajkovic is a strong supporter of Russia and a
[00:04:57] strong opponent of NATO. This politician is one of the most extreme
[00:05:01] right-wing politicians in Europe, he is a man who praises Russia. I think it is a
[00:05:04] huge problem that Morten Messersmitt goes in here and
[00:05:08] supports a person and a
[00:05:11] party that wants to help
[00:05:14] Putin's Russia. Also on the left, among the conservatives, they call
[00:05:18] Messersmitt's meeting frightening and completely incomprehensible. Dajkovic is
[00:05:22] the leader of the party Sloborna Sernagoda,
[00:05:25] which means Free Montenegro in Danish. On Instagram,
[00:05:28] he writes, among other things, "destroy anti-Russian
[00:05:31] propaganda," and then he refers to Western sanctions
[00:05:34] against Russia as shameful. This is directly
[00:05:37] against Danish interests. Messer Smith received harsh criticism after his
[00:05:41] visit to Trump's.
[00:05:46] It sparked criticism when the party's Ukraine proposal received support
[00:05:50] from the Russian ambassador, and now there is criticism of the meeting with
[00:05:54] Daikovic, and if this was only the only time that Morten Messersmitt
[00:05:57] missed the mark, it's not. At the end of the video, when the two say
[00:06:01] goodbye on Christiansborg's stairs, Morten
[00:06:04] Messersmitt says a remark
[00:06:06] the Minister of Defense calls problematic. He wishes him
[00:06:10] a political victory after they have talked,
[00:06:14] and he is now actively involved in a campaign that praises
[00:06:18] Russia. Morten Messer Smith explains himself:
[00:06:21] It's like when you have an election campaign in Denmark, and you meet
[00:06:24] any party, you also say, have a good election campaign.
[00:06:28] What is your thought on the fact that he, so Dajkovic, so unequivocally
[00:06:32] supports Russia? I have
[00:06:35] absolutely no knowledge of that. Can one excuse oneself by saying that one had not really
[00:06:38] looked into who one was actually meeting with? No, I don't think you can.
[00:06:42] "When you are the party leader of the largest bourgeois
[00:06:45] party, uh, when you have aspirations to be a
[00:06:48] prime ministerial candidate, uh, then I don't think you can
[00:06:51] explain it away. And then I can
[00:06:54] also say good evening and welcome to you, Morten Messersmidt, you yourself say
[00:06:58] that the visit here was of a purely friendly nature,
[00:07:02] uh, but if it was just a friend and a friend, I mean, can you not still
[00:07:05] explain why you wish him political victory, i.e., go
[00:07:08] win,
[00:07:11] it's as I say in... in the introduction here, just a question, you say really
[00:07:15] good election campaigns and so on, it's cut in that context.
[00:07:18] I mean, I've never met him before, and I probably won't
[00:07:22] again, and as you say, I have a
[00:07:25] good friend here in Denmark who reached out and
[00:07:29] asked if I wanted to show him around and meet
[00:07:33] this Montenegrin local politician. I said
[00:07:36] yes to that during the summer holidays, or at least during the break, and not many others at
[00:07:40] Christiansborg. Um, we would have done
[00:07:43] it differently if we had done it during the actual political session, then we might have done a different kind of
[00:07:46] background check and so on, it wasn't done, it was purely informal and
[00:07:50] and friendly, as I think you can also see in the pictures, uh,
[00:07:54] and not some major political meeting, um, and therefore,
[00:07:58] yes, we didn't do that background check, and that is of course, that is of course regrettable,
[00:08:02] but as I said, I actually had no idea who he was, but Morten, it has
[00:08:06] happened, Messer Smith, and the fact is now
[00:08:09] that you are posing with him in several photos, which are also used in
[00:08:13] Serbian media and also on uh on his own
[00:08:16] Facebook page, this politician's Facebook page. We are talking, as was
[00:08:20] also said in the report, about a party leader who is a strong
[00:08:23] supporter of Russia and a fierce opponent of NATO. How do
[00:08:27] you feel about standing here and posing amicably with
[00:08:29] him?
[00:08:31] Well, of course it's regrettable, but on the other hand, I have a clear conscience in the sense that
[00:08:35] I know that in our conversation, I made it perfectly clear what, um,
[00:08:39] what I and the Danish People's Party think about
[00:08:42] NATO. We are probably the party in Parliament that has most warmly
[00:08:45] supported NATO, and that Denmark must live up to its
[00:08:48] obligations. I made it completely clear that Russia's war of aggression in
[00:08:52] Ukraine was unacceptable, and we supported Ukraine's
[00:08:56] struggle for freedom and so on, so that image, which I understand
[00:08:59] is in some foreign media and also in Danish, is not something I can
[00:09:03] recognize, and if I had had a feeling that I was being used in some kind of game after
[00:09:07] the meeting, I would have taken action on it, so this, I got the impression
[00:09:11] that it was a private visit.
[00:09:20] You say "go win", he rushes to use it on Instagram, on Facebook, he gives
[00:09:24] interviews in Serbian media, so isn't it very
[00:09:27] careless as a party leader not to have some
[00:09:30] form, that one should perhaps as a
[00:09:34] party leader be more careful about who one gives
[00:09:37] favors to in terms of showing them around and such things, I mean, uh,
[00:09:41] I'll gladly take that
[00:09:43] me. Um, I don't know anything about that compilation, I mean, he gave me a
[00:09:47] gift, that flag, and uh, I unfolded it and politely, as one is,
[00:09:51] and said, "oh, how nice" and such things, I mean, it wasn't something that
[00:09:54] occupied me further in my
[00:09:58] mind that day, and I also think one should see this in the light of
[00:10:02] the campaign that is now being run from especially the left wing, right, which you
[00:10:05] also have in the report, I mean, did any of
[00:10:08] them know about him or his party before this case came out? I have
[00:10:12] never heard of him or them before, so, uh, I am of course sorry
[00:10:15] that it has taken on this character, uh, that these
[00:10:19] things have turned out to be, not have been properly background checked, but
[00:10:23] I mean, it's not that bad, I mean, I. defend Denmark's interests and the Danish
[00:10:26] People's Party's policies, as I always do, both in the media
[00:10:30] and when I meet politicians around the world. But the fact is that there
[00:10:33] is criticism, of course especially from the left wing, but also from other
[00:10:37] parties in the blue bloc. I mean, how
[00:10:40] naive, uh, careless can one be as a party leader, I
[00:10:43] mean, you are also a gifted, a gifted politician, you know how to
[00:10:47] use social media these
[00:10:49] days?
[00:10:52] Well, how careless can one be, I mean, a week ago it was
[00:10:55] Ida Auken, right, because she had had some meetings with Peter
[00:10:58] Tiger, and now I can see that SF is very concerned about this case, I mean, I remember from my
[00:11:02] time in the European Parliament that members of SF's group had meetings with
[00:11:06] Hamas and so on, I mean, I don't know, I mean, I
[00:11:09] have considered this as a completely informal thing,
[00:11:12] where a mutual acquaintance asked if I would give a tour, which
[00:11:16] I do or something like that,
[00:11:20] didn't you know there was a local politician from Montenegro, a
[00:11:24] local politician?
[00:11:31] Yes, well, uh, I think you'd be surprised at how many people go in and out of
[00:11:35] Christiansborg, but I'll gladly take it upon myself, uh, that as chairman you should
[00:11:39] be more cautious about who you give a
[00:11:42] tour to. I mean, what I find remarkable here is that there is an equivalence drawn
[00:11:46] between some views that he apparently
[00:11:49] holds, and which he has not expressed to me, um, and
[00:11:53] then this tour. Where my experience was, uh, that it was,
[00:11:57] as I said, a purely friendly thing, I could do my
[00:12:00] friend a favor by showing him around here, and now I'm being used in some
[00:12:04] big media circus, both internationally, as I understand from you, that's not something I've
[00:12:08] seen myself, um, and then by by by the other parties in Denmark,
[00:12:12] because they are of course annoyed that the Danish People's Party is strong in the polls,
[00:12:16] as you also, or is it Jeppe Brus, who just mentioned it in the introduction, so
[00:12:19] in the future, what then, will you be more careful when you invite people into
[00:12:23] the Danish Parliament?
[00:12:26] 'Well, you know what, I think I'm just done showing people around. Of course, it's
[00:12:30] a shame for the many good people, but the risk that
[00:12:33] if you take some school class in, right, that there's someone who has
[00:12:36] done something stupid, and I then have to be associated with it because I take a picture
[00:12:40] with them, I simply don't want that. So I think the smart thing to do is to say that I'll just do
[00:12:44] politics, and then I'll let the professional, incredibly
[00:12:48] competent officers at Christiansborg handle the tours from now on. That was
[00:12:51] Morten Messersmitt, thank you for being with us here on TV
[00:12:55] news tonight,
[00:12:55] of course.
[00:13:00] And now for a news item that has just come in. After
[00:13:03] more than two days of disappearance, a 15-year-old
[00:13:06] girl from Hedensted has now been found in Hungary. This is reported by
[00:13:10] Southeast Jutland Police, who are also investigating whether anything
[00:13:14] criminal has occurred in connection with the girl's
[00:13:16] disappearance.
[00:13:21] The use of artificial intelligence is booming. Both
[00:13:25] at home and at work, the chatbot is being used
[00:13:29] eagerly and consulted, and this also applies to the country's
[00:13:32] youth education institutions, but here it may also mean that some
[00:13:36] young people are cheating their way to better grades. The government
[00:13:40] now wants to put a stop to this with a new immediate package, which will
[00:13:43] prevent cheating when assignments are written. What you are actually
[00:13:47] addressing is why one chooses to use AI. Aalborg
[00:13:50] Cathedral School already teaches how AI is used.
[00:13:54] Hunting good grades, it gets worse and worse if you use more and more
[00:13:57] AI, yes, at least if you get grades for the assignments you do at home, right, so now
[00:14:01] some written assignments must be done at school, you only get grades
[00:14:05] for game days and assignments that are produced
[00:14:08] at school and in the classroom. It has been a good
[00:14:12] experience, it has definitely been nerve-wracking, you can get help with things you don't
[00:14:15] understand instead of sitting at home and not knowing what's happening,
[00:14:19] then you might go to AI, for example.
[00:14:22] The Minister of Education would like more of that kind of AI control,
[00:14:26] it is unfortunately misused for cheating, and for AI to simply
[00:14:29] do the assignments for the students. The government's immediate package has one
[00:14:33] requirement and two recommendations. A requirement that exams written
[00:14:36] at home must be defended orally, a recommendation that
[00:14:40] more written assignments be done at school, and that schools
[00:14:43] monitor students' screens during written exams. I also experience
[00:14:47] a lot of that thing about getting good grades being normalized. A weak effort,
[00:14:51] Aalborg thinks. It's a bit of a temporary solution to
[00:14:55] a problem that is much, much bigger. We need to have some more
[00:14:58] concrete guidelines and also an
[00:15:01] exam format that corresponds to the reality we are in,
[00:15:05] where AI is a marker and unfortunately sometimes also a marker
[00:15:08] at home. And the immediate package is only a start, an expert believes. The
[00:15:12] written part is a fundamental element, and therefore I
[00:15:15] think the recommendation is good, but it probably requires a lot of
[00:15:18] interpretation. Now we are presenting some concrete proposals, now I have gathered the entire
[00:15:21] sector to talk to them about what the next step should be, how do we make this
[00:15:25] a reality. We must learn to use it in a constructive
[00:15:28] way. In a world where AI is used everywhere, there is advice for politicians on
[00:15:32] upcoming rules. It should be a bit more structural, one should look at
[00:15:36] why we use AI so often, and that's where I believe it's because of this
[00:15:40] constant pressure for grades, and this, um, especially
[00:15:43] in high school, SDX, where there are assignments
[00:15:47] constantly.
[00:15:51] Yes, for many Danes, the summer holiday is almost over.
[00:15:54] Sunscreen is packed away, packed lunches need to be made
[00:15:57] again, and for some, this also means that
[00:16:01] wedding rings come off. The time just after
[00:16:04] the summer holidays is known as peak season for divorce.
[00:16:07] But how can it actually be that people split up
[00:16:11] just as the suitcases are unpacked? Bear
[00:16:14] one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of
[00:16:18] Christ. It is not always so lovely to
[00:16:21] walk together. One can say that sometimes divorce is
[00:16:25] the best solution, no matter
[00:16:29] what the Bible says. Here come Mr. and Mrs. Jensen,
[00:16:32] Leila and Henrik, hand in hand, it goes up and it goes down, and married for
[00:16:36] 38 years. When there's a holiday, it's also time to sit
[00:16:39] down and think about life ahead, saying, what you're doing
[00:16:43] here, is that really what you want? And
[00:16:45] then when you come home again, you've figured out whether you want to or not. I
[00:16:49] think that's the reason. When everyday life rushes
[00:16:52] by, you don't talk, it just keeps
[00:16:56] going, then the freedom of vacation can actually be a
[00:16:59] problem. What often occurs to couples
[00:17:03] is that the expectations they had for each other are not
[00:17:06] met. Yes, that's probably true, but we haven't had summer holidays
[00:17:10] yet.
[00:17:12] Bear with each other and forgive each other. We so want
[00:17:16] to take those perfect holiday photos that we can post on
[00:17:19] Instagram and Facebook and all the other social media,
[00:17:23] so we look like the neighbor's
[00:17:26] relationship, but maybe your partner doesn't
[00:17:30] always look as good on social media as you
[00:17:33] actually intended, and then we have the misery. Love is
[00:17:38] patient, love is kind. In Viborg, the church offers
[00:17:41] conversations. It does not envy, they call them "party with the priest", love
[00:17:45] does not boast. I don't come as a priest to fix everything,
[00:17:49] I can't do that at all, but I can give speaking time to
[00:17:53] both parties. If we've been arguing, as they say, it might have been in the red zone and such
[00:17:57] things, then we've left each other
[00:18:00] alone, and then in the end you have a need to talk to the other person again, right,
[00:18:03] also, love never ends, but in the Bible it says:
[00:18:07] What God has joined together, let no man
[00:18:10] separate. It may well be that what
[00:18:14] was joined together is dead, and we also say
[00:18:18] in the wedding ritual, until death do us part, so if
[00:18:22] it really is dead, if one has
[00:18:24] tried, if one has done everything one possibly could
[00:18:28] to talk things through, then there is nothing else to
[00:18:31] do.
[00:18:39] This is a bit wet, isn't it?
[00:18:40] her,
[00:18:44] That wasn't a good idea, was it? Alone
[00:18:47] in the Wilderness, with only a few participants left,
[00:18:51] the season will be decided in the biting cold. Who will break the record for
[00:18:54] most days in the Wilderness? Now on
[00:18:57] DRTV. Make sure to get warm. It's relatively
[00:19:01] critical. Once we shared
[00:19:04] the world with several other human species.
[00:19:07] 'why are we the only homo species left on
[00:19:11] this planet? we are definitely not the biggest of them,
[00:19:15] we're not the strongest, we don't even have the largest
[00:19:17] brains.
[00:19:20] these people were killed first of all, asks
[00:19:24] why we survived. we just move into ecosystems
[00:19:28] and we take them over. And how the past still lives in us,
[00:19:32] we'll never construct a good future without have a thorough
[00:19:35] understanding of our past. Humanity, the story
[00:19:39] of how we became who we are, Saturday on DRTV.
[00:19:55] Good evening and welcome to the TV news. Someone
[00:19:58] added me on Snapchat.
[00:20:01] Extreme networks online. The so-called NVE groups
[00:20:05] are spreading. Europol states that they have cooperated with Danish
[00:20:08] police in a large number of cases related to
[00:20:12] the networks, where videos of assaults,
[00:20:15] self-harm and
[00:20:16] school attacks are shared.
[00:20:20] Danish People's Party chairman Morten Messersmitt now regrets that he met with a
[00:20:24] pro-Russian politician from Montenegro at
[00:20:26] Christiansborg, a visit that has drawn strong criticism from both
[00:20:30] the blue and red blocs. I think the Danish People's Party
[00:20:34] needs to adjust their compass.
[00:20:37] You only get grades for assignments that are produced at
[00:20:40] school. First day of school for third-graders here, and
[00:20:44] it will be under stricter rules. Politicians want to reduce cheating with
[00:20:48] artificial intelligence in youth
[00:20:50] education.
[00:20:57] Extreme online environments for young people, where violence is not only
[00:21:01] shared but also glorified, yes, this is a growing trend
[00:21:04] these years. The terror case at Herr
[00:21:08] sten's school is, according to DR's information, a
[00:21:11] glaring example of criminality, where the arrested boys aged
[00:21:15] 15 and 16 are suspected of having
[00:21:18] connections to the so-called NVE networks, which stands for
[00:21:22] nihilistic violent extremism, and the case is
[00:21:25] far from unique for Europol's anti-terrorism unit,
[00:21:29] who states that they, together with Danish police, have worked on several
[00:21:32] cases with ties to the environment.
[00:21:36] we have very close cooperation with Denmark, they
[00:21:39] are a part of the project compass and they have
[00:21:43] contributed with dozens of cases.
[00:21:47] Project Compass is Europol's international cooperation with
[00:21:50] 31 countries, which, among other things, aims to combat
[00:21:53] NVE networks, where children and young people are exposed to grooming,
[00:21:57] extortion and radicalization. The problem is global, and Denmark is no
[00:22:01] exception. You can have a groomer or a perpetrator
[00:22:04] in one country, grooming,
[00:22:08] um, grooming a girl or victim on the other side of the world.
[00:22:11] This is why it is so extremely important that competent authorities work side
[00:22:15] by side, share information timely,
[00:22:18] 24/7.
[00:22:20] And now I can say good evening and welcome to you Christian Moensen, you are an expert in
[00:22:24] digital culture. Try to elaborate on how
[00:22:27] widespread this phenomenon is?
[00:22:31] Well, unlike what we know historically in terms of radicalization,
[00:22:35] we are not talking about clubs or associations or anything
[00:22:38] else where we can go down and export a membership roster. We are talking about ideological
[00:22:42] networks, and although we have not reached a fixed number of how widespread
[00:22:46] they are, we can see that they have grown over the past couple of years, and have taken
[00:22:50] young people with them from the movement that a few years ago was called the alt-right, from
[00:22:53] the incel environment, and from all sorts of other, more or less violence-prone,
[00:22:56] but extremist networks. And it can
[00:22:59] be completely unpredictable where online young people encounter these
[00:23:03] groups. The ones we spoke to today have become familiar
[00:23:07] with the phenomenon. Elias has already seen
[00:23:10] the dark side of the internet, 14 years old. I think it's a bit disgusting that people
[00:23:14] do that, um, especially, I mean, people who go around hitting
[00:23:18] each other and stuff. The mobile phone gives access to friends on social media.
[00:23:21] media, but today it was exploited by the wrong people. It was something
[00:23:25] like, Magnus wants to be friends with you on Snapchat, so I'm against it, because I know
[00:23:29] a couple named Magnus and so on, it was something where people show or send
[00:23:33] videos of them smashing other people and stuff.
[00:23:36] The 19-year-old friends here also know about the unpleasant videos online.
[00:23:40] I have a couple of friends who have experienced it before, and have also seen some things
[00:23:44] they probably don't really want to see. But environments that celebrate extreme violence have
[00:23:48] become a phenomenon on the internet. School shooters, who get
[00:23:52] such a, yes, saint status. Ask Hasby Holm follows the
[00:23:55] so-called NVE networks. It stands for nihilistic violent
[00:23:59] extremism. Status, you get
[00:24:02] through violence, so the more violent you are, the more gruesome it
[00:24:06] actually is, the higher status you get. He shows
[00:24:09] how a seemingly innocent account from, for example, the children's game
[00:24:13] Roblox can cover something completely different. There are people
[00:24:17] who have built a game with the purpose. to
[00:24:20] capture - young people and radicalize them, and it can be a
[00:24:24] game that shows, or is completely
[00:24:27] built around a terrorist attack, they
[00:24:30] break down one's relationship to what is right and wrong and
[00:24:33] normal. Shortly before the summer holidays, the police intelligence service
[00:24:36] described for the first time NBE in their
[00:24:39] threat assessment. Of course, there is a general concern about what they are doing,
[00:24:43] because these are terrible things they are flirting
[00:24:47] with.
[00:24:50] and then a couple of months later, we are ready with a TV news program, on Monday
[00:24:54] the police could announce that they had arrested and charged three boys aged 15
[00:24:57] to 16, for attempted terrorism against a school in
[00:25:01] Hassten. The goal was allegedly to injure and kill several
[00:25:04] people by using a knife and bomb as weapons. According to
[00:25:08] their information, the boys were precisely linked to the violence-promoting
[00:25:12] NVE environments. For 14-year-old Elias,
[00:25:16] it was only a brief encounter with the violent videos. It went.
[00:25:20] 10 minutes then I left the group, um, and then
[00:25:23] I removed Magnus from Snapchat and then
[00:25:26] boom, I didn't hear from him again or anything, and from the home-schooled boys on
[00:25:29] the internet come the good advice. Either talk to a friend about it or
[00:25:33] tell your parents, you can always block
[00:25:35] people. And you're with us again, Christian
[00:25:39] Mogensen, uh, this boy , he, he hurried away, but who
[00:25:42] is at risk of being caught in these
[00:25:45] networks. What we typically see that
[00:25:49] attracts some young people in these networks is that they often offer a very
[00:25:52] easy solution or a very easy answer to some of the very big complex
[00:25:56] questions you struggle with when you are 14, 15, 16 years old, what does my
[00:26:00] future look like, who should I become, what should I do, how? does success look like, and how will I ever be
[00:26:04] happy, these groups offer a very very simple answer, and if there are no
[00:26:07] other arenas in your life that offer you an anchor in
[00:26:11] society or something to aim for, well, then it seems enticing to listen
[00:26:15] to what is being said in these kinds of groups. These are very relevant
[00:26:18] questions you are asking here that can come from young people, but but how
[00:26:22] can it lead to people uniting around violence and
[00:26:25] extremism?
[00:26:28] What is the anchor of these nihilistic violence-ready
[00:26:31] communities. It is that, well, it is nihilism, it is that all
[00:26:35] the rules, all the morality we have built on society,
[00:26:39] that doesn't apply, if you don't believe that society will be there in a couple of years, and when these young
[00:26:43] people then gather in groups where they tell each other that, well, look at
[00:26:46] the corruption, look at the climate, look at the culture, everything is wrong, we have no
[00:26:50] future, then the rules must necessarily also fall away, and then
[00:26:54] the only thing left is the digital attention culture,
[00:26:57] where what works is, how much attention can you get, and there we as
[00:27:01] humans, as humans. animals are designed so that violence and
[00:27:04] extreme content, it attracts, and when there is nothing else left, well,
[00:27:08] then it also necessarily gives a form of status, so here at the end, what is
[00:27:12] your best advice, if we are to deal with this?
[00:27:14] livs?
[00:27:16] Well, I would like to say that we could start by fixing all the problems I listed just before,
[00:27:20] but the very best we can do as parents, as educators or teachers or
[00:27:24] adults who are near young people, is talk to them and tell
[00:27:28] them that all their worries, that the world won't be there in 10 years
[00:27:31] or they have no future. There are many, many of us who are working hard to ensure that it doesn't
[00:27:35] end up like that, that was Christian Mogensen, thank you for being with us,
[00:27:39] med,
[00:27:48] it's a bit wet here,
[00:27:49] her,
[00:27:53] it shouldn't have happened, alone
[00:27:56] in the wilderness, with only a few participants left, the
[00:27:59] season will be decided in the bitter cold, who? breaks the record for
[00:28:03] most days in the wilderness now on
[00:28:06] DR TV make sure to get warm, it's relatively
[00:28:10] critical, once we shared
[00:28:13] the world with several other human species. why are
[00:28:16] we the only homo species left on this
[00:28:19] planet? we
[00:28:23] them, we're not the strongest, we don't even have the largest
[00:28:26] brains.
[00:28:29] these people were killed first of all new fund.
[00:29:04] Good evening and welcome here to TV news. Someone
[00:29:07] added me on Snapchat.
[00:29:10] Extreme networks on the internet. The so-called
[00:29:13] NVE groups are spreading . Europol states
[00:29:16] that they have collaborated with the Danish Police in a large number of cases
[00:29:19] related to the networks where videos of
[00:29:23] assaults, self-harm and
[00:29:25] school attacks are shared.
[00:29:29] The chairman of the Danish People's Party, Morten Messersmith , now apologizes. He met with a
[00:29:33] pro-Russian politician from Montenegro at Christiansborg,
[00:29:36] a visit that has drawn strong criticism from both the blue and red
[00:29:39] blocs. I think that the Danish People's Party needs to
[00:29:43] adjust their compass.
[00:29:46] You only get grades for assignments produced
[00:29:49] at school. First day of school for third-graders here, and
[00:29:53] it will be under stricter rules. Politicians want to reduce cheating with
[00:29:57] artificial intelligence in
[00:29:58] youth education.
[00:30:06] Extreme online environments for young people, where violence is not just
[00:30:09] shared, but also celebrated, yes, this is a growing trend
[00:30:13] these years. The terror case at Herr Stein's
[00:30:17] school is, according to DR's information, a
[00:30:20] grave example of criminality, where the arrested boys aged
[00:30:23] 15 and 16 are suspected of having
[00:30:27] connections to the so-called NVE networks, which stands
[00:30:30] for nihilistic violent extremism,
[00:30:33] and the case is far from unique, because Europol's
[00:30:36] anti-terror unit states that they have worked with the Danish
[00:30:40] police on several cases with threats to
[00:30:43] the environment. We have very close cooperation with Denmark, they
[00:30:47] are a part of the project compass and they have
[00:30:50] contributed with dozens of cases.