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[00:00:00] here, so
[00:00:01] So there are two things that are simply the systems have been their own
[00:00:05] to decide what kind of systems they should be, so they were simply caught off guard that this could happen, and
[00:00:09] that's also what the store manager says, why should this affect me, and
[00:00:13] that's also what the customers don't understand, why
[00:00:17] would one do this, who, who would target us in this
[00:00:20] way, it simply causes bewilderment, yes, you have spoken
[00:00:24] with several of the customers, Simone, how, how do they react
[00:00:27] apart from the fact that they obviously find this completely incomprehensible.
[00:00:33] Well, when I ask them what they think about it, they say that
[00:00:36] they can't understand that it affects such a local
[00:00:40] business like this one, so what is the intention behind it,
[00:00:44] uh, and we don't know exactly what the
[00:00:47] intention is and why it affects so many different ones and so
[00:00:50] on and so forth, um, yes, so it's, it's clear
[00:00:54] that, uh, that it's something that causes frustration for the
[00:00:57] locals, that they can't go down and get the goods that
[00:01:01] they actually wanted, and it affects a local community, which here is
[00:01:05] a relatively small town with not many shops,
[00:01:08] so when you can't get these goods, it really
[00:01:11] means something. Yes, and it's
[00:01:15] not the first time that European supermarkets have been hit by these
[00:01:18] hacker attacks. Here are pictures from last month, where French
[00:01:22] supermarkets were subjected to a similar attack.
[00:01:25] The temperature in refrigerated display cases and freezers here was turned up,
[00:01:29] so the food went bad and large
[00:01:32] quantities had to be discarded. It's very clear that
[00:01:35] uh, that we are under attack at the moment, and we
[00:01:38] unfortunately have so many things on the
[00:01:41] internet that make us much more vulnerable than we were
[00:01:45] before. Uh, or rather, the vulnerabilities have actually existed for many
[00:01:49] years, but now someone has systematically started to exploit
[00:01:52] them. And this is really a classic example of how a
[00:01:55] cyber attack can unfold in the physical world. And
[00:01:59] how does this cyber attack happen, can you try to
[00:02:02] explain it? Well, in this
[00:02:05] case, it's actually not because there's a vulnerability in the actual
[00:02:09] OT systems as such, it's an interface, a
[00:02:13] web interface, that's for our routers and all sorts of other
[00:02:17] places where we have such a web interface that you can log into, where you can like
[00:02:20] change these settings or adjustments, and
[00:02:24] therefore it's just an attack - we've seen that hits
[00:02:28] IT first and then goes into the physical
[00:02:30] world, and with all due respect, you may have already lost someone
[00:02:34] there, is it something that uh is difficult or is it
[00:02:37] something that is easy to secure oneself against, that it won't
[00:02:40] happen? Well, uh, the problem is
[00:02:43] that there are many places where we have put these things
[00:02:47] directly on the internet, so they can be hit by everyone
[00:02:51] out there, I mean, everyone who wishes us ill, they are directly on the
[00:02:54] internet, and it's easy to find these devices, so it's, it's an
[00:02:58] easy attack in that sense, that many can figure out
[00:03:02] how to carry it out, and especially with AI it becomes even easier,
[00:03:06] uh, the problem is that we have all these
[00:03:09] devices that are directly on the internet, and can be
[00:03:11] hit, and here at home, supermarkets have been
[00:03:15] informed about the cyber threat, the Food Agency
[00:03:17] says. We are relatively well equipped in Denmark, we have been in
[00:03:21] contact with the five large retail chains
[00:03:24] in Denmark, they either do not have this vulnerability, or they have been working on
[00:03:28] mitigating the vulnerability in those systems, it has only been
[00:03:30] independently owned cases, it only concerns
[00:03:34] some specific control boxes
[00:03:37] for these refrigeration systems that are older
[00:03:40] or have not been updated in their software,
[00:03:44] and we are of course following the situation here on TVA live, and you can as
[00:03:48] always read more about it on our live blog on
[00:03:51] dr.dk.
[00:03:55] Now to the US, because tomorrow Americans vote
[00:03:59] in the midterm elections, and here Democrat Haley
[00:04:03] Stevens in the state of Michigan has at the 11th hour gone
[00:04:06] against her own party, and now she has declared her support for a
[00:04:10] Republican
[00:04:11] candidate.
[00:04:16] And I decided to go to church, and I'm here with the
[00:04:19] person who I am voting for for United
[00:04:23] States Senate, and that is Mike Rogers.
[00:04:26] Congresswoman Haley Stevens here, was herself nominated for the primary
[00:04:30] for the Democrats, but she lost a close election campaign to
[00:04:33] the party's more progressive candidate Abdul El Said, and
[00:04:37] while he declines to comment on Stevens' decision,
[00:04:41] yes, the country's president Trump gladly seizes the opportunity.
[00:04:54] And this is quite remarkable in the middle of
[00:04:58] the election campaign, says our international correspondent, because
[00:05:02] it's a very long way to go, because it's something the Democrats
[00:05:05] really, really wanted to avoid, and as Trump also says, he's right this
[00:05:09] time, this is a big thing, it was an unexpected thing, that is.
[00:05:14] crucial, the first one.
[00:05:48] Welcome, now a Danish food producer has also been
[00:05:52] targeted by hackers, says Danish Industry. This comes after
[00:05:55] freezers and refrigerators in several supermarkets across Europe
[00:05:59] have been hacked. And Daniel Myer, you are with Danish
[00:06:02] Industry, you can tell us more about what has
[00:06:04] happened?
[00:06:07] Yes, first of all, we know that it was last night that there was a Danish
[00:06:10] food company that was attacked. And let me just ask you,
[00:06:13] Jeppe Ingel, you are a chief consultant at Danish Industry with
[00:06:17] responsibility for cybersecurity, what exactly happened at your
[00:06:21] member's? Well, after we sent a warning out this afternoon to
[00:06:25] not just those who deal with the installation
[00:06:27] of food equipment such as refrigeration and
[00:06:30] freezing, we also sent it to our food producing members, and one of them replied
[00:06:34] quite quickly that they had been attacked
[00:06:38] last night, those who monitored discovered it and got, what should I
[00:06:41] say, set the temperature back to where it should be, made sure that it
[00:06:45] could no longer happen and started installing new
[00:06:49] security, and the company has since announced that they now
[00:06:53] have to invest in new equipment, because they can't take the chance, and
[00:06:56] that extra security is not enough, uh, and this is
[00:07:00] the first example we know of that the
[00:07:03] warning we ourselves issued and the authorities later issued
[00:07:06] today about those who have refrigeration and freezing, not just
[00:07:10] retail, but also at the food producers, uh, that they
[00:07:14] need to take this warning very seriously and contact
[00:07:17] their suppliers they have agreements with regarding
[00:07:21] their services and regarding their installations,
[00:07:24] um, and if they can't reach them, keep trying, because I think they are very
[00:07:28] busy right now, and if they
[00:07:31] know their systems, make sure their refrigeration and freezing
[00:07:35] are not on the internet, and they are typically only for monitoring
[00:07:38] or for service, and that is not necessary
[00:07:42] in the next few days in that sense, um, if they
[00:07:46] succeed or they are in doubt if they succeed, then my
[00:07:50] best advice right now is to put 24-hour surveillance on
[00:07:54] those systems that are very important, uh, because we must
[00:07:57] expect that this attack will continue for some time yet, and can we be sure that
[00:08:01] what has happened in Denmark can be linked to what we have seen from Ireland and France and
[00:08:05] Luxembourg and so on? Yes, that's what we can do, uh, it's the
[00:08:09] same method even though there are different manufacturers
[00:08:12] of equipment, so it's the same method, and what they do, they
[00:08:16] scan and find equipment that is on the internet, uh, and that's
[00:08:20] for monitoring and for service, uh, then they break in
[00:08:24] and start the defrosting function, which is super annoying,
[00:08:28] uh, and that sends the temperatures up on both refrigeration and freezing, and thus
[00:08:31] goods worth many thousands, and what's worse
[00:08:35] uh, are destroyed, uh, because the food or rather the cold chain
[00:08:38] is broken, um, so it's the same we see
[00:08:42] all around Europe, we have mostly seen supermarkets today,
[00:08:45] uh, but there's no doubt that this equipment also exists in
[00:08:48] food producers and others who have very large refrigeration and
[00:08:51] freezing facilities, can we talk about whether this food company, whose
[00:08:55] name you won't reveal because they don't want to go public at the moment, can we
[00:08:59] know if they had control over their security or if they neglected something in relation to their
[00:09:03] security? I have, uh, I have been allowed to see some of the communication that the managing
[00:09:06] director sent in, and my assessment after seeing it is that it is a
[00:09:10] company that has had good control over it, there was a monitoring that caught
[00:09:13] it, which knew that this was something they should react to, and
[00:09:17] the company immediately decided to implement extra measures with more
[00:09:21] security, and can already now, in so few hours, say that they have made the decision
[00:09:25] that they need to buy new equipment, so it's not just a company that
[00:09:29] has control over it, they have also already taken the consequence
[00:09:32] that it has now become serious, can we also assume that it is the only company
[00:09:36] that has been attacked, or are there others as well, when we, when we see that this one
[00:09:39] here, it is currently, it is, it is... otherwise I've heard, it's
[00:09:43] rumor-based, and that can't be used here, but I have no doubt
[00:09:47] that, uh, both supermarkets and others who have
[00:09:50] refrigeration and freezing systems that are internet-connected, meaning they are on
[00:09:53] the internet, have been attempted to be scanned and hacked,
[00:09:57] in this attack we also see all over Europe. Would you describe this as a
[00:10:01] crisis situation? No, we are not in a crisis situation yet,
[00:10:05] fortunately, supermarkets have a contingency plan to
[00:10:08] handle such things, and so do food producers,
[00:10:12] so... and even if some are affected and some goods have to be thrown away,
[00:10:15] supermarkets ensure, because they
[00:10:18] are responsible, to restock as quickly as
[00:10:21] possible, but it's clear that when supermarkets and... across
[00:10:25] Europe are hit at once, then there are some
[00:10:29] deliveries that are pressured, but it's also in such a situation that
[00:10:33] those who deliver the goods come together and make an extra
[00:10:36] effort, so supermarkets don't lack goods, with regard to what we saw last
[00:10:40] night, both in Denmark and across Europe, how serious is this
[00:10:44] actually for the way we, yes, conduct ourselves in the society we have, well, there's no doubt that
[00:10:48] this plays a role in relation to
[00:10:51] what we have set up, that everything must be on the internet. "Now, it's
[00:10:55] super serious when it comes to food safety, when it comes to
[00:10:58] supply security, but it extends all the way to the
[00:11:02] things we have in our private homes, uh, I myself have both a tumble dryer and
[00:11:06] a washing machine and a zonal system and all sorts of things that are on the internet, and some of the things are
[00:11:10] necessary, and some of the things are not, and we should perhaps start to reconsider that, from
[00:11:14] what we have in our private homes to what we do in businesses, where
[00:11:17] some things are also on the internet that shouldn't be, that was from Jeppe Ingel,
[00:11:21] who is a chief consultant for cybersecurity in Danish Industry, thank you.
[00:11:25] Yes, so let's just look at what the situation is around Europe,
[00:11:28] where supermarkets in five other countries have been
[00:11:32] hit by cyberattacks, where in several places the temperature has been turned up
[00:11:36] to 50 degrees in freezers and refrigerated display cases. In
[00:11:39] Belgium, which we see pictures from here, more than 50
[00:11:43] supermarkets have been affected, also in Sweden, Luxembourg,
[00:11:47] Ireland and Estonia, shops report
[00:11:49] problems. According to the supplier in Estonia, it was
[00:11:53] an older control system from Danish Danfoss, just like it
[00:11:57] happened in France three weeks ago. The Danish Agency for
[00:12:00] Preparedness here at home is investigating whether Danish shops have been affected and
[00:12:03] urges shop owners to review their refrigeration systems,
[00:12:07] as we also just heard from Danish Industry. And the
[00:12:11] Danish industrial group Danfoss now confirms that
[00:12:14] their products have been part of the cyberattacks that have
[00:12:18] taken place. We can confirm that the incidents that have
[00:12:21] been reported in several European countries also involve
[00:12:25] our products, we have been in close dialogue with our customers for the
[00:12:29] past three weeks, and continue to help them manage
[00:12:32] the situation, says Danfoss, and our
[00:12:36] reporter has visited one of the shops in Skåne in Sweden that was hit by
[00:12:40] the hacker attack.
[00:12:42] Well, here in the refrigerated display case, customers have gone in vain for
[00:12:46] frozen berries and bread and everything else
[00:12:49] that people normally go for here in the town of Sjöbo, which
[00:12:53] is a smaller town and not and... not the capital here in Sweden, but nevertheless,
[00:12:57] at least it was quite a grim sight that
[00:13:00] awaited the store manager here when he
[00:13:04] arrived this morning, there were simply melted
[00:13:07] blueberry tarts and all sorts of other things, so they have simply
[00:13:11] spent the whole morning, the whole morning just throwing
[00:13:14] out and throwing out and throwing out, hundreds of
[00:13:18] kilos they have thrown out, up to several tons of food has simply been thrown out
[00:13:22] in the container, because among other things, the freezers here,
[00:13:25] and also a number of refrigerators had been turned up to 50 degrees during
[00:13:29] the night, so it's exactly the same as happened in
[00:13:33] France about three weeks ago, so they were not at all prepared for
[00:13:37] something like this to happen?
[00:13:41] No, they haven't been, I mean, the situation is that it's a local grocer who owns the store here,
[00:13:44] and also the systems uh ICA is a big
[00:13:48] chain of stores, so they have many
[00:13:52] stores, uh, but several of them are
[00:13:55] by grocers, uh, among others, the store here, so
[00:13:59] the systems have been their own
[00:14:02] to decide what kind of systems they should be, so they were simply caught off guard
[00:14:05] that this could happen, and
[00:14:09] that's also what the store manager says, why should this affect me, and
[00:14:13] that's also what the customers don't understand, why, uh, why would one do
[00:14:17] this, who, who would target us in this
[00:14:20] way, it simply causes bewilderment, yes, you have spoken
[00:14:24] with customers, Simone, how, how do they react
[00:14:28] apart from the fact that they obviously find this completely
[00:14:29] incomprehensible?
[00:14:33] Well, when I ask them what they think about it, they say that
[00:14:37] they can't understand that it affects such a local
[00:14:40] business like this one, so what is the intention behind it,
[00:14:44] uh, and we don't know exactly what the
[00:14:47] intention is and why it affects so many different ones and so
[00:14:50] on and so forth, um, yes, so it's, it's
[00:14:54] clear that... that it's something that causes frustration for
[00:14:57] the locals, that they can't go down and get the goods
[00:15:01] that they actually wanted, and it affects a local community, which
[00:15:05] here is a relatively small town with not many
[00:15:08] shops, so when you can't get these goods, it really
[00:15:12] means something, and many
[00:15:15] of the systems that have been hacked are connected
[00:15:18] to the internet, and that's what makes them vulnerable, an expert also
[00:15:22] says here. The problem
[00:15:26] is that there are many places where we have put these things
[00:15:29] directly on the internet, so they can be hit by everyone
[00:15:32] out there, I mean, everyone who wishes us ill, they are directly on the
[00:15:36] internet, and it's easy to find these devices, so it's, it's an
[00:15:39] easy attack in that sense, that many can figure out
[00:15:43] how to carry it out, and especially with AI, it becomes even
[00:15:46] easier, uh, the problem is that we have all these
[00:15:50] devices that are directly on the internet, and can be
[00:15:53] hit, and we are of course following the situation with these
[00:15:57] hacker attacks here on TVA live, and you can also always read more
[00:16:01] about it in our live blog on
[00:16:03] DR.DK.
[00:16:07] So it's tomorrow that Americans vote in the midterm elections,
[00:16:11] and in one of the crucial states, Michigan, yes,
[00:16:15] Democrat Haley Stevens has at the 11th hour gone
[00:16:18] against her own party, she has turned 180 degrees, and has
[00:16:22] now declared that she supports a Republican
[00:16:25] candidate.
[00:16:34] I woke up this morning and I decided to go to church, and I'm here with the person who I am voting for for United.
[00:16:41] Stevens herself ran in the Democratic primary,
[00:16:45] but she lost a close campaign to the party's more
[00:16:48] progressive candidate Abdul El Said, and while he
[00:16:52] declines to comment on Stevens' decision, President
[00:16:56] Trump gladly seizes the
[00:16:57] opportunity.
[00:17:09] And it's absolutely not everyday fare for a candidate
[00:17:12] to switch parties in the middle of an election campaign, our international
[00:17:15] correspondent reports, because it's a very long way to go, because
[00:17:19] it's something the Democrats really, really wanted to avoid, and as
[00:17:23] Trump also says, he's right this time, this is a big thing, it was an
[00:17:26] unexpected thing. So, there are two things that are simply crucial, the
[00:17:30] first for the Democrats is that here they have
[00:17:34] a more moderate candidate. who
[00:17:37] then loses, holy Stevens earlier this year in the fight over who should
[00:17:41] run for the Democrats, then Abdul El Said
[00:17:44] runs, and they agree after arguing back and
[00:17:48] forth, that she should now run with him and together,
[00:17:51] after which she then announces, no, she's not doing it after all, she's now
[00:17:55] running Mike Rogers, who is the Republican, also to that
[00:17:59] belongs the fact that her boyfriend is a Republican, and he came out
[00:18:02] yesterday, or the day before yesterday and announced now that he supported Mike
[00:18:06] Rogers, what they then discussed? She said, when she woke up and went to
[00:18:09] church, she must have really thought things over,
[00:18:13] that's one thing, the other thing is that for the Democrats it's simply absolutely
[00:18:17] crucial to win every single
[00:18:20] Senate seat in the new Senate that they can
[00:18:24] get, it's absolutely crucial, because they can get a majority there, that's what they are
[00:18:28] seriously fighting for, and it could well mean, it could well
[00:18:31] change something, we don't know what the situation is now, we know many have
[00:18:35] voted because of earlier voting by mail
[00:18:38] and so on, but uh, how will this
[00:18:42] play out, will it give more support to the Republicans
[00:18:45] or what, because that's what they are fighting
[00:18:47] for. Also in Ukraine, hackers have been
[00:18:51] at play, and here it has affected the mobile app
[00:18:55] that warns the population about attacks. This is confirmed by
[00:18:58] the country's air defense to the news agency AFP. This is
[00:19:01] what we can see here, the messages Ukrainians received were
[00:19:05] false alarms on their mobile phones
[00:19:08] about imminent attacks with nuclear weapons, chemical
[00:19:11] weapons, and street fighting. The report of irregularities
[00:19:14] on the app came a few minutes after the ceasefire in the eastern
[00:19:18] Kherson region expired last night, and it has caused
[00:19:22] confusion. Well, it's clear that it has scared many
[00:19:25] Ukrainians, simply because it was exactly at the time when people
[00:19:29] were going to bed that these alarms came in. It quickly
[00:19:33] became clear, however, that this was a false alarm, that this was a
[00:19:36] hacker attack. But there are probably many Ukrainians who were very scared
[00:19:40] last night. I was also, what can you say, surprised by this
[00:19:44] alarm that came in, also because many Ukrainians are currently
[00:19:48] experiencing that the war is in such an escalation,
[00:19:51] what can you say, spiral at the moment, where it is constantly becoming more and more violent, and therefore
[00:19:55] they are afraid of what Russia might do. Who do they think is behind this
[00:19:59] hacker attack? Well, according to the
[00:20:02] Ukrainian authorities, it is Russia that is behind this, they have
[00:20:06] announced it, but we don't know, the Ukrainian media
[00:20:09] speculate a lot about this and try to analyze these
[00:20:13] messages that have been sent in, if one can decipher something, but at the
[00:20:16] moment we don't know if Russia is behind this, even
[00:20:20] though that is like the general perception here among Ukrainians,
[00:20:24] but also the Russian Ministry of Emergency Situations' app has
[00:20:27] been hacked, writes the news agency TASS. Here the
[00:20:30] message to the bridges was that nuclear missiles had been fired across the entire
[00:20:34] country.
[00:20:39] TV2 has not lived up to its own guidelines in
[00:20:42] connection with the controversial program "Everyone Loves Rasmus", says
[00:20:46] Culture Minister Senier Stampe. "I have
[00:20:50] been down to look at TV2's guidelines, and they
[00:20:54] actually write very clearly and distinctly that all participants have a right to
[00:20:58] know the framework and theme for recordings they participate in, and
[00:21:02] therefore this is also a clear violation of TV2's
[00:21:05] own internal ethical guidelines.
[00:21:09] The program was removed Saturday after massive criticism and
[00:21:12] accusations of adult bullying. In the series,
[00:21:15] Rasmus Walbridge here lives out a dream of making a
[00:21:18] feature film, but after four months, it turns out that it's all a
[00:21:22] scam. Yesterday, TV2 admitted that
[00:21:25] the program should not have been broadcast, and also that a central
[00:21:29] audio clip had been manipulated. The channel
[00:21:32] is now launching an investigation into the entire process with
[00:21:35] the program. Several parties have urged the Minister of Culture to get involved in
[00:21:38] the matter, but Senior Stampe rejects this. I think it
[00:21:42] would be enormously problematic if I as a minister interfered
[00:21:46] in program activities or interfered in personnel matters, we have a very
[00:21:50] strong tradition that public service media are independent, I think
[00:21:54] we should be happy about that, uh, it means that most people trust
[00:21:57] TV2, but right here, trust has suffered an enormous
[00:22:01] uh, an enormous breach, and that is TV2's own fault, and I
[00:22:05] think TV2 is also aware of that, and TV2 knows right now that it now
[00:22:09] depends on them whether they restore the trust of Danes,
[00:22:12] uh, I urge them to do everything they can to restore
[00:22:16] that trust, and I also believe that they will do so, but it depends on
[00:22:20] uh, what they now do, and I think it's better
[00:22:23] than me going in and making new rules or micromanaging, especially
[00:22:27] when I can confirm that the rules they have should actually be sufficient to
[00:22:31] prevent something like this in the future. And we have tried
[00:22:34] to get a comment from TV2, who have not responded to our
[00:22:37] inquiries. Here we will take a look at
[00:22:40] the weather. It's probably not the weather forecast that will attract the most
[00:22:44] tourists, it's probably a bit too gray in most places at least, but maybe they should take a trip to northern Jutland if they want to experience.
[00:22:47] The sun might have a chance to break through,
[00:22:50] it can certainly do that here during the afternoon hours, otherwise a day where
[00:22:53] we are well under the clouds, still lingering over the eastern parts, they will
[00:22:57] hang around for a good part of the day at least, probably when we look at most
[00:23:00] forecasts, temperatures around eight to 10 degrees during most
[00:23:04] of the hours that await us, so we will therefore also have a day that is quite
[00:23:07] stable in terms of temperature, wind from a northerly direction, but over in the southeastern
[00:23:11] corner, it will come more from a southwesterly direction, it's starting to turn, we're starting
[00:23:15] Tuesday, which looks like it will be a really nice day.
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[00:29:05] Welcome, now a Danish food producer has also been
[00:29:09] targeted by hackers, according to Danish Industry. This comes after
[00:29:12] freezers and refrigerators in several supermarkets around Europe
[00:29:16] have been hacked. And Daniel Myer, you are with Danish
[00:29:19] Industry, you can tell us more about what has
[00:29:22] happened?
[00:29:24] Yes, first of all, we know that it was night when a Danish
[00:29:27] food company was attempted to be hacked, and let's just ask you,
[00:29:31] Jeppe Ingel, you are a chief consultant at Danish Industry with
[00:29:34] responsibility for cybersecurity, what exactly happened at your
[00:29:38] member's company? Well, after we sent out a warning this afternoon to
[00:29:42] not only those who deal with installation
[00:29:44] of food equipment such as refrigerators and
[00:29:48] freezers, we also sent it to our food producing members, and one of them replied
[00:29:51] quite quickly that they were attacked that
[00:29:55] night, those who monitored it discovered it and
[00:29:58] managed, what should I say, to set the temperature back to where it
[00:30:01] should be, so that it could no longer happen and started
[00:30:05] installing new security, and the company has since announced
[00:30:08] that they have to invest in new
[00:30:11] equipment because they cannot take the chance and that extra security is not
[00:30:15] enough, and this is the first example we
[00:30:19] know of that the warning we ourselves came
[00:30:22] with, and the authorities later came with
[00:30:24] today, that those who have refrigeration and freezing and not just
[00:30:27] retail, but also at the food producers, that they
[00:30:31] have to take this warning very seriously and contact
[00:30:34] their, uh, those they have agreements with regarding
[00:30:38] their services and regarding their installations, uhm,
[00:30:41] and if they can't reach them, then keep trying because I think it's very
[00:30:45] busy with them right now, and if they themselves
[00:30:48] can check their systems, make sure that their refrigeration and freezing
[00:30:52] is not on the internet, and that is typically only to be monitored
[00:30:55] or to be serviced, and that is not
[00:30:59] necessary in the next few days in that sense.
[00:31:02] Uhm, if they, if they succeed or they are in doubt.