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[00:00:00] are fighting
[00:00:02] with more security, and can already now about, also in Ukraine there have been hackers at play, and here it has
[00:00:05] affected the mobile app that warns the population about
[00:00:09] attacks. This is confirmed by the country's air defense to
[00:00:12] the news agency AFP. This is what we can see here, the messages
[00:00:15] Ukrainians have received, these are false alarms on their
[00:00:18] mobile phones about imminent attacks with nuclear weapons,
[00:00:22] chemical weapons and street fighting.
[00:00:25] The report of irregularities on the app came a few minutes after
[00:00:29] the ceasefire in the eastern Kherson region expired
[00:00:32] last night, and it has caused confusion. Well,
[00:00:36] it is clear that it has made many Ukrainians scared, simply because
[00:00:40] it was right at the time when people were going to bed that these alarms ticked
[00:00:44] in, quite quickly it became clear, however, that this was a
[00:00:48] false alarm, that this was a hacker attack, but there are probably quite a few
[00:00:51] Ukrainians who were well scared last night, I myself also
[00:00:54] became, what can you say, surprised by this alarm that ticked in, also
[00:00:58] because many Ukrainians are currently experiencing that the war is in such
[00:01:01] an escalation uhm, what can you say, spiral at
[00:01:05] the moment, where it constantly becomes more and more violent, and therefore are afraid of
[00:01:08] what Russia might do. Who do you think is behind this
[00:01:12] hacker attack? Well, according to the Ukrainian
[00:01:15] authorities, it is Russia that is behind this, they have announced
[00:01:18] it, but we don't know, the Ukrainian media speculate
[00:01:22] a lot about this, and try to analyze these messages that have been
[00:01:26] sent in, whether one can somehow decode something, but right now...
[00:01:30] we don't know if Russia is behind this, even though it is like
[00:01:33] the common perception here among Ukrainians, but
[00:01:37] also the Russian Ministry of Emergency Situations' app has been hacked, writes
[00:01:41] the news agency TASS. Here, the message to users was that nuclear
[00:01:44] missiles had been fired over the entire
[00:01:47] country.
[00:01:51] TV2 has not lived up to its own guidelines in
[00:01:55] connection with the controversial program, everyone loves Rasmus.
[00:01:59] That is what it now sounds like from. Minister of Culture Senia Stampe.
[00:02:02] I have been uh down and looked at TV2's guidelines,
[00:02:06] and they actually write very clearly and distinctly that all participants have
[00:02:10] the right to know the framework and theme for the recordings they
[00:02:13] participate in, and therefore this is also a clear breach of
[00:02:17] TV2's own internal ethical
[00:02:20] guidelines. The program was removed on Saturday
[00:02:23] after massive criticism and accusations of adult
[00:02:26] bullying. In the series, Rasmus Wallbridge
[00:02:29] here lives out a dream of making a feature film, but after four months it
[00:02:33] turns out that the whole thing is a scam. Yesterday,
[00:02:38] stores, but several of them are TV2 then admitted that the program should not have been broadcast, and also that a central audio clip had been
[00:02:42] manipulated. The channel is now launching an
[00:02:45] investigation into the entire process with the program. Several parties
[00:02:49] have urged the Minister of Culture to get involved in the matter, but Senior
[00:02:53] Stampe rejects this. I think it would be enormously problematic
[00:02:57] if I, as minister, interfered in program activities or interfered
[00:03:00] in personnel matters, we have a very strong tradition that public service
[00:03:04] media are independent, I think we should be happy about that, it means
[00:03:08] that most people trust TV2, but right here the trust
[00:03:12] has suffered an enormous uh, an enormous break, and that is
[00:03:16] TV2's own fault, and I think TV2 is also aware of it, and
[00:03:19] TV2 now knows that it now depends on them whether they restore
[00:03:23] the trust of the Danes, I urge
[00:03:26] them to do everything they can to restore that trust, and I believe
[00:03:30] that they will do that, but it depends on uh, what they
[00:03:34] do now, and I think it's better than me going in and
[00:03:37] making new rules or micromanaging, especially when I can
[00:03:40] ascertain that the rules they have should actually be sufficient to
[00:03:44] avoid something like this in the future, and we have tried to
[00:03:47] get a comment from TV2, who has not returned our
[00:03:50] inquiries, here we should have a look at
[00:03:52] the weather, it is probably not the forecast that can attract the most
[00:03:56] tourists, it is probably in most places at least a little too grey, but it could be. should take
[00:04:00] a trip to the North Sea if they would like to experience that the sun might have a little chance to
[00:04:04] break through, it can at least do so here during the afternoon hours, otherwise a day where we
[00:04:08] are well planted under the clouds, still layers here over the eastern regions, they will
[00:04:11] hang around for a good part of the day at least, probably when we look at most
[00:04:14] forecasts. Temperatures around eight to ten degrees during most
[00:04:18] of the hours that await us from now on, so we will therefore also have a day that is quite
[00:04:22] stable temperature-wise. The wind from the northern direction, but here in the southeastern
[00:04:25] corner, it comes more from the southwestern direction, but it starts to turn as we start
[00:04:29] Tuesday. which looks like it will be a really nice day with plenty of sunshine,
[00:04:33] a few clouds here at the end or in the southern regions, also a few showers early
[00:04:37] independently owned in the day, but in the afternoon hours there is even more room for sun, and we will
[00:04:40] thus get yet another beautiful round, as we start the days that
[00:04:44] await us over Wednesday and Thursday.
[00:04:56] Welcome, now a Danish food producer has also been attempted
[00:05:00] hacked, says Danish Industry. This happens after
[00:05:03] freezers and refrigerators in several supermarkets across
[00:05:06] Europe have been hacked. And Daniel Myer,
[00:05:09] you are with Danish Industry, you can tell us more about what? What has
[00:05:12] happened?
[00:05:15] Yes, first of all, we know that it was at night that a Danish
[00:05:18] food company was attempted hacked, and let's just ask you,
[00:05:21] Jeppe Ingel, you are chief consultant at Danish Industry with
[00:05:25] responsibility for cybersecurity, what exactly happened at your
[00:05:29] member's? Well, after we sent a warning this afternoon to
[00:05:32] not just those who deal with installation
[00:05:35] of food equipment such as refrigeration and
[00:05:38] freezing, we also sent it to our food producing members, and one of them replied
[00:05:42] quite quickly that they had been attacked
[00:05:46] at night, those who monitored discovered it and managed to, so to speak,
[00:05:49] set the temperature back to where it should be, made sure that it
[00:05:53] could no longer happen and started installing some
[00:05:57] new security, and the company has then announced that they need to
[00:06:01] now invest in new equipment, because they cannot take the chance, and
[00:06:04] that extra security is not enough, uh, and this is
[00:06:08] the first example we know of,
[00:06:10] that the warning we have given and the authorities later today
[00:06:14] about those who have refrigeration and freezing, and not just
[00:06:18] retail, but also at the food producers, uh, that they
[00:06:22] need to take this warning very seriously and contact
[00:06:25] their uh a voice they have agreements with regarding their
[00:06:29] services and regarding their installations
[00:06:32] um, and if they can't reach them, keep trying, because I think there's
[00:06:35] a lot of work going on at them right now, and if they themselves
[00:06:39] can their systems ensure that their refrigeration and freezing
[00:06:43] are not on the internet, and that is typically only for monitoring
[00:06:46] or for service, and that is not
[00:06:49] necessary in the next couple of days in that sense
[00:06:53] um, if they if they succeed or they are in doubt if they
[00:06:56] succeed, then my best advice right now is to set
[00:07:00] 24-hour monitoring on the facilities that are very
[00:07:03] important, uh, because we must expect that this attack, it will continue
[00:07:07] for some time yet, and can we be sure that what has happened in Denmark can be linked to what we have
[00:07:11] seen from Ireland and... France and Luxembourg and so on. Yes, it is
[00:07:14] that, we can. It is the same method, even if it is different
[00:07:18] manufacturers of equipment, it is the same
[00:07:22] method, and what they do, they scan and find
[00:07:26] equipment that is on the internet. And that is for monitoring and for
[00:07:30] service. Uh, then they break in and start
[00:07:32] the defrost function, which is super annoying. Uh,
[00:07:36] and that sends the temperatures up on both refrigeration and freezing, and thereby goods
[00:07:40] for many thousands, and uh, and that. will be uh
[00:07:43] destroyed uh because food or what do you call it the cold chain is
[00:07:47] broken um so it's the same we see all over
[00:07:50] Europe we have mostly seen supermarkets today uh but
[00:07:54] there is no doubt that this equipment is also found in food producers and
[00:07:58] others who have very large refrigeration and freezing facilities can we talk
[00:08:01] about this food company whose name you don't want to disclose because they don't want to come
[00:08:05] out at this time can we know if they had control over their security or if they had
[00:08:09] neglected something in relation to their security I have uh I have
[00:08:12] been allowed to see some of the communication their CEO has sent in, and my
[00:08:16] assessment after seeing it is that it is a company that has had good control over
[00:08:20] it, so there was monitoring that caught it, that knew that this was something they
[00:08:23] should react to, and the company decided immediately to
[00:08:27] implement extra measures with more security, and can already now in so few
[00:08:31] hours say that they have made the decision that they need to buy new equipment,
[00:08:35] so it's not just a company that either
[00:08:38] has control over it, they have also already taken the consequence that it has now become
[00:08:42] serious. Can we also assume that this is the only company that has been attempted attacked, or are there
[00:08:45] also others, when we, when we see that this one here, it is currently
[00:08:49] what I have otherwise heard is based on rumors, and that cannot be used
[00:08:53] here, but I have no doubt that both supermarkets
[00:08:57] and others who have refrigeration and freezing facilities that are
[00:09:00] internet-connected, meaning they are on the internet, have been attempted
[00:09:03] scanned and hacked in this attack that we also see around
[00:09:07] Europe. Would you describe this as a crisis situation? No, we are
[00:09:11] not in a crisis situation yet, fortunately,
[00:09:14] supermarkets have a contingency plan to handle such things, and so do
[00:09:18] food producers, so even if someone is
[00:09:21] affected and some goods have to be thrown away, supermarkets ensure,
[00:09:24] because they are responsible, to
[00:09:27] restock as quickly as possible, but it is clear that when
[00:09:31] supermarkets throughout Europe are hit at once, then
[00:09:35] some deliveries are put under pressure, but it
[00:09:39] is also in such a situation that those who supply the goods step
[00:09:42] up and ensure to make an extra effort, so supermarkets do not
[00:09:46] run out of goods, with regard to what we have seen last night, both in Denmark and
[00:09:49] around Europe, how serious is this actually for the way
[00:09:53] we behave in the society we have? Well, there is no doubt
[00:09:57] that this plays a role in relation to what we have arranged, that
[00:10:01] everything should be on the internet, now it is super serious when it comes to
[00:10:04] food safety, when it comes to supply security, but it
[00:10:08] also extends all the way to the things we have in our private homes.
[00:10:12] Uh, I myself have both a tumble dryer and a washing machine and a Sonos system and all
[00:10:16] sorts of things that are on the internet, and some of the things are necessary, and some of the things are not, and we
[00:10:20] might have to start dealing with that from what we have in our private homes
[00:10:23] to what we do in companies. where some things are also on the internet that should
[00:10:27] not be. Now it's from Jeppe Engel, who is chief consultant for Cybersecurity at Danish
[00:10:31] Industry. Thank you. Yes, so let's just look at what
[00:10:34] the situation is around Europe, where supermarkets in
[00:10:38] five other countries have been affected by cyberattacks, where
[00:10:42] in several places the temperature has been turned up to 50 degrees in freezers
[00:10:46] and refrigerated displays. In Belgium, which we see pictures from here,
[00:10:49] more than 50 supermarkets have been affected,
[00:10:53] also in Sweden, Luxembourg, Ireland and Estonia,
[00:10:56] stores report problems. According to
[00:10:59] the supplier in Estonia, it was an older control system,
[00:11:02] from Danish Danfoss, just like what happened in France three weeks
[00:11:06] ago. The Danish Agency for Social Security here at home
[00:11:09] is investigating whether Danish stores are affected and urges store owners to
[00:11:13] review their refrigeration systems, as we just heard
[00:11:16] from Danish Industry. And the
[00:11:19] Danish industrial group Danfoss now confirms that
[00:11:22] their products have been part of the cyberattacks that have taken
[00:11:26] place. We can confirm that the incidents that have been
[00:11:30] reported in several European countries also involve our
[00:11:33] products. We have been in close dialogue with our customers for
[00:11:37] the past three weeks, and continue to help them manage
[00:11:40] the situation, says Danfoss. And our
[00:11:44] reporter has visited one of the stores in Skåne in Sweden that has been affected by
[00:11:48] the hacker attack.
[00:11:50] Well, here in the refrigerated display, customers have gone in vain
[00:11:54] for and and all the things that one
[00:11:57] normally goes for here in the town of Sjöbo, which
[00:12:01] is a smaller town and not and not the capital here in Sweden, but nevertheless,
[00:12:05] at least it was quite a grim sight
[00:12:08] that uh that awaited the store manager here when he
[00:12:12] arrived this morning, there were simply melted
[00:12:15] blueberry tarts and and all sorts of other things uh, so they have simply
[00:12:19] spent the whole morning, the whole morning simply throwing
[00:12:22] out and throwing out and throwing out. Hundreds of kilos they have
[00:12:26] thrown out, up to several tons of food have simply been thrown out
[00:12:29] in the container, because among other things
[00:12:33] the freezers here and also a number of refrigerators had been turned up to
[00:12:36] 50 degrees during the night, so it's
[00:12:39] exactly the same as what happened in France about three weeks
[00:12:43] ago, so they weren't at all prepared for something like this to
[00:12:45] happen?
[00:12:48] No, they haven't been, so it's the situation that it's
[00:12:52] a local grocer who owns the store here. And also the systems
[00:12:56] uh ICA is a large chain of stores, so they have
[00:13:00] many
[00:13:03] independently owned by grocers uh
[00:13:07] including the store here, so the systems have
[00:13:10] been their own to decide what kind they should be, so it simply
[00:13:13] caught them off guard uh that this could happen, and and that is also
[00:13:17] what the store manager says, so why should this affect me, and that
[00:13:21] is also what the customers do not understand, so why uh, why? would one do
[00:13:25] this, who, who would hit us in this
[00:13:28] way, it, it is simply something that causes wonder, yes, you have spoken
[00:13:32] to several customers, Simone, so how, how do they react
[00:13:36] besides, of course, thinking this is completely
[00:13:37] incomprehensible,
[00:13:41] well, I mean, when I, when I ask them what they, what they think about it, well, then they say that
[00:13:45] that it, that they can't understand that it affects such a local
[00:13:48] business like this, I mean, what is the intention with it,
[00:13:52] uh, and we don't know, of course, exactly. what the intention is
[00:13:56] and why it affects so many different ones and so on and so on
[00:13:59] um yes so it is it is clear
[00:14:01] that uh that it is something that causes frustration
[00:14:05] for the locals that they can't come down and get the goods
[00:14:09] that they actually wanted and it affects a local community like
[00:14:13] here is a relatively small town with not so many
[00:14:16] shops so so when you can't get these goods then it is
[00:14:20] something that actually matters and many
[00:14:23] of the systems that have been hacked are connected to
[00:14:27] the internet, and that is what makes them vulnerable, an expert also tells
[00:14:30] here. The problem is that
[00:14:34] there are many places where we have put these things directly on
[00:14:37] the internet, so they can be hit by all people
[00:14:41] out there, I mean all those who wish us ill, that they are directly on the internet, and it is
[00:14:44] easy to find these devices, so it is, it is an
[00:14:47] easy attack in that sense, that many can figure out
[00:14:51] how to perform it, and especially with AI it becomes even easier.
[00:14:55] Uh, the problem is, that we have all these devices that are directly
[00:14:59] on the internet, and can be hit, and we are
[00:15:03] of course following the situation with these hacker attacks here in TVA live,
[00:15:07] and you can also always read more about it in our live blog on
[00:15:11] DR.K.
[00:15:15] So it's tomorrow that Americans vote in the
[00:15:17] midterm elections, and in one of the crucial
[00:15:20] states, Michigan, yes, the Democrat Haley
[00:15:24] Steven. at the 11th hour has gone against her own
[00:15:27] party. She has turned 180 degrees and has now
[00:15:30] declared that she supports a Republican
[00:15:33] candidate.
[00:15:37] This morning and I decided to go to church and I'm here with
[00:15:41] the person who I am voting for for United
[00:15:45] States Senate, and that is Mike Rogers.
[00:15:48] Congresswoman Haley Stevens herself ran in the primary for
[00:15:52] the Democrats, but she lost a close election to the party's
[00:15:56] more progressive candidate Abdul El Said, and while
[00:15:59] he declines to comment on Stevens' decision,
[00:16:03] the country's president Trump gladly seizes the opportunity.
[00:16:07] 'that was a big move, I think nobody
[00:16:10] expected that, but it's a smart thing to do
[00:16:13] because elsead would destroy our
[00:16:15] country. And it is absolutely not an everyday occurrence for a
[00:16:19] candidate to switch parties in the middle of an election campaign, our international
[00:16:23] correspondent reports here, because it's a very long way to go, because it's
[00:16:27] something the Democrats really, really wanted to avoid, and as
[00:16:31] Trump also says, he's right this time, this is a big deal, it was an
[00:16:34] unexpected thing, I mean there are two things'. that
[00:16:37] are simply crucial, one for the Democrats is
[00:16:40] that here you have a more
[00:16:43] moderate candidate, who then loses, Haley Stevens
[00:16:47] earlier this year fought for who should run for the Democrats, then
[00:16:50] Abdul El Said, he runs, and they then agree
[00:16:54] after having argued back and forth a bit, that now she should probably run with him
[00:16:58] and jointly, after which she then announces, no, she's not going to after all,
[00:17:02] she is now supporting Mike Rogers, who is the
[00:17:05] Republican, to that also belongs her boyfriend who is a
[00:17:08] Republican, and he came out here yesterday, or the day before yesterday, and
[00:17:12] announced now that he supported Mike Rogers, what they then discussed, she
[00:17:15] said when she woke up and went to church, she must then
[00:17:19] have really, I mean, have thought about things, that's one thing, the other thing is
[00:17:22] that for the Democrats, it is simply crucial
[00:17:26] to win every single Senate,
[00:17:29] Senate seat into the new Senate that they can get, it is
[00:17:32] absolutely crucially important, for they can get a majority there, that is what they are really
[00:17:36] fighting for, and... "it can very well come to mean, it can very well come to change
[00:17:40] something, we don't know what the situation is now, we know many have voted
[00:17:44] due to previous voting by mail and so on, but uh,
[00:17:47] how will this play
[00:17:50] out, will it give more support to the Republicans or
[00:17:54] what, because that's what they're fighting for.
[00:17:57] also in Ukraine there have been hackers at play, and here it has affected
[00:18:01] the mobile app that warns the population about
[00:18:04] attacks, this is confirmed by the country's air defense. to
[00:18:07] the news agency AFP. This is what we can see here, the messages
[00:18:11] Ukrainians have received, these are false alarms on their
[00:18:14] mobile phones about imminent attacks with nuclear weapons,
[00:18:18] chemical weapons and street fighting.
[00:18:20] The report of irregularities on the app came a few minutes after
[00:18:24] the ceasefire in the eastern Kherson region expired
[00:18:28] last night, and it has caused confusion. Well,
[00:18:32] it is clear that it has made many Ukrainians scared, simply because
[00:18:35] it was right at the time when people were going to bed that these alarms ticked
[00:18:39] in, quite quickly it became clear, however, that this was a
[00:18:43] false alarm, that this was a hacker attack, but there are probably quite a few
[00:18:46] Ukrainians who were well scared last night, I myself also,
[00:18:50] what can you say, surprised by this alarm that ticked in, also
[00:18:54] because many Ukrainians are currently experiencing that the war is in such
[00:18:57] an escalation,
[00:18:59] what can you say, spiral at the moment, where it constantly becomes more and more violent, and therefore
[00:19:03] are afraid of what Russia might do. Who do you think is
[00:19:06] behind? here hacker attack? Well, according to the Ukrainian
[00:19:10] authorities, it is Russia that is behind this, they have announced
[00:19:14] it, but we don't know, the Ukrainian media speculate
[00:19:18] a lot about this, and try to analyze these messages that have
[00:19:21] been sent in, whether one can somehow decode something, but right now we
[00:19:25] don't know if Russia is behind this, even though it is like
[00:19:29] the common perception here among Ukrainians, but
[00:19:32] also the Russian Ministry of Emergency Situations' app has
[00:19:35] been hacked, writes the news agency. Pass, here the message to
[00:19:39] users was that nuclear missiles had been fired over the entire
[00:19:42] country.
[00:19:47] TV2 has not lived up to its own guidelines in
[00:19:50] connection with the controversial program, everyone loves Rasmus.
[00:19:54] That is what it now sounds like from Minister of Culture Senia Stampe.
[00:19:58] I have been down to look at TV2's guidelines,
[00:20:01] and they actually write very clearly and distinctly that all participants have
[00:20:05] the right to know the framework and. theme for the recordings they
[00:20:09] participate in, and therefore this is also a clear breach of
[00:20:12] TV2's own internal ethical
[00:20:15] guidelines. The program was removed on Saturday
[00:20:18] after massive criticism and accusations of adult
[00:20:21] bullying. In the series, Rasmus Walbridge
[00:20:25] here lives out a dream of making a feature film, but after four months it
[00:20:28] turns out that the whole thing is a scam. Yesterday,
[00:20:31] TV2 then admitted that the program should not have been broadcast,
[00:20:35] and also that a central audio clip
[00:20:37] had been manipulated. The channel is now launching an
[00:20:41] investigation into the entire process with the program. Several parties have
[00:20:44] urged the Minister of Culture to get involved in the matter, but Senior
[00:20:48] Stampe rejects this. 'I think it would be enormously problematic
[00:20:52] if I, as minister, interfered in program activities or interfered in
[00:20:56] personnel matters, we have a very strong tradition that public service
[00:21:00] media are independent, I think we should be glad about that, it means
[00:21:03] that most people trust TV2, but right here trust
[00:21:07] has suffered an enormous uh, an enormous break, and that is
[00:21:11] TV2's own fault, and I think TV2 is also aware of it, and
[00:21:15] TV2 now knows that it now depends on them whether they restore
[00:21:19] trust in'. the Danes, I urge
[00:21:21] them to do everything they can to restore that trust, and I believe
[00:21:25] that they will do that, but it depends on uh,
[00:21:29] what they do now, and I think it's better than me going in and
[00:21:33] making new rules or micromanaging, especially when I can
[00:21:35] ascertain that the rules they have should actually be sufficient to
[00:21:39] avoid something like this in the future, and we have tried to
[00:21:42] get a comment from TV2, who has not returned our
[00:21:45] inquiries.
[00:21:54] Alex Jones has gained millions of followers with his conspiracy theories.
[00:22:09] The Iraq War files have turned friends into
[00:22:12] enemies.
[00:22:20] So tomorrow on DRTV and DR1.
[00:22:32] Welcome. Now a Danish food producer has also been attempted
[00:22:36] hacked, says Danish Industry. This happens after
[00:22:39] freezers and refrigerators in several supermarkets across
[00:22:42] Europe have been hacked. And Daniel Myer,
[00:22:45] you are with Danish Industry. You can tell us more about what has
[00:22:48] happened.
[00:22:51] Yes, first of all, we know that it was at night that a Danish
[00:22:54] food company was attempted to hack, and let's just ask
[00:22:57] you, Jeppe Ingel, you are a chief consultant at Danish industry with
[00:23:01] responsibility for cybersecurity, what exactly happened to your
[00:23:05] member? Well, after we sent a warning this afternoon
[00:23:08] not only to those who have to do with the installation
[00:23:11] of food equipment such as refrigeration and
[00:23:14] freezing, we also sent it to our food producing members, and one of them replied
[00:23:18] fairly quickly that... they were attacked during the night,
[00:23:21] those who monitored it, noticed it and were able to,
[00:23:25] so to speak, set the temperature back to where it should be, made
[00:23:29] sure that it could no longer happen and started installing
[00:23:33] new security, and the company has since announced that they are
[00:23:36] now forced to invest in new equipment because they cannot take the chance and
[00:23:40] that extra security is not enough, and this is
[00:23:44] the first example we know of that the warning
[00:23:48] we ourselves have given and the authorities later gave about
[00:23:51] those who have refrigeration and freezing and not just retail, but
[00:23:55] also among the food producers,
[00:23:58] that they must take this warning very seriously and contact
[00:24:01] their supplier they have agreements with regarding
[00:24:05] their services regarding their installations,
[00:24:08] and if they can't reach them, keep trying, because I think it's very
[00:24:12] busy for them right now, and if they can
[00:24:15] manage their systems themselves, make sure that their refrigeration and freezing
[00:24:19] are not on the internet. And that's typically only for monitoring
[00:24:22] or for service, and that's not necessary
[00:24:26] in the next few days in that sense.
[00:24:29] If they succeed or are in doubt whether they
[00:24:33] succeed, then my best advice right now is to set up
[00:24:36] 24-hour monitoring of the facilities that are very
[00:24:39] important, because we must
[00:24:43] expect that this attack will continue for some time yet, and can we be sure that what
[00:24:47] has happened here in Denmark can be linked to what we have seen from Ireland and France and Luxembourg and so on. Yes, it can,
[00:24:51] it's the same method, even though it's different
[00:24:54] manufacturers of equipment, it's the same
[00:24:58] method, and what they do is they scan and find
[00:25:02] equipment that is on the internet, and that's for monitoring and for service,
[00:25:06] so they break in and start the defrosting function,
[00:25:10] which is super annoying, and that raises the temperatures
[00:25:14] on both refrigeration and freezing, and thus it was for many thousands,
[00:25:17] and what has been broken,
[00:25:24] so it's the same thing we see all over Europe, we
[00:25:28] have mostly seen supermarkets today, but there's no doubt that this
[00:25:31] equipment also exists in food producers and others who
[00:25:34] have very large refrigeration and freezing facilities, can we
[00:25:37] talk about whether this food company, whose name you don't want to disclose because they don't
[00:25:41] want to come out at the moment, can we know if they had control over their
[00:25:44] security or if they neglected something regarding their security? I have
[00:25:48] been allowed to see something, a communication from their managing director, and my assessment after seeing it is
[00:25:51] that it is a company that has had good control over it, so there was a monitoring system that
[00:25:55] caught it, which knew that this was something they needed to react
[00:25:59] to, and the company decided immediately to implement extra measures
[00:26:04] in so few hours say that they have made the decision that they need to buy new
[00:26:08] equipment, so it is not just a company that
[00:26:12] has control over it, they have also already taken the consequence that it has now become
[00:26:16] serious. Can we also assume that it is the only company that has been attacked, or are there
[00:26:20] also others? When we see that this one here, it is currently
[00:26:23] what I have otherwise heard, it is purely based on rumors, and that cannot be used
[00:26:27] here, but I have no doubt that
[00:26:31] both markets and others that have refrigeration and
[00:26:34] freezing facilities that are internet-connected, meaning they are on the
[00:26:37] internet, have been subjected to scanning and hacking
[00:26:41] in this attack that we also see all over Europe. Would you describe this as a
[00:26:45] crisis situation? No, we are not in a crisis situation yet,
[00:26:49] fortunately, supermarkets have a contingency plan to
[00:26:52] handle such things, and so do food producers,
[00:26:55] so even if some are affected and some goods have to be thrown away, the supermarkets make sure, because they
[00:26:59] are responsible, to restock as quickly as possible, but it is
[00:27:03] clear that when supermarkets all over Europe are hit at
[00:27:06] once, then some deliveries will be
[00:27:10] pressured, but it is also in such a situation that those who
[00:27:14] supply the goods come together and ensure to make an extra effort,
[00:27:17] so that the supermarkets do not lack goods. In light of what we saw last
[00:27:21] night, both in Denmark and across Europe, how serious is this actually
[00:27:24] for the way we behave in the society we have?
[00:27:28] Well, there is no doubt that this plays a role in relation to what
[00:27:32] we have arranged, that everything must be on the internet. Now it is
[00:27:35] super serious when it comes to food security, when it comes to
[00:27:39] supply security, but it also extends to the
[00:27:42] things we have in our private homes. I myself have a
[00:27:46] tumble dryer and a washing machine and a heating system and all sorts of things that are on
[00:27:49] the internet, and some of the things are necessary, and some of the things are not, and we may have to deal with
[00:27:53] that, from what we have in our private homes to what we do in
[00:27:57] companies, where something is on the internet that should not be.
[00:28:00] That was from Jeppe Engel, who is a chief consultant for
[00:28:02] Cybersecurity in Danish Industry. Thank you. Yes, so let's just
[00:28:06] see what the situation is around Europe, where
[00:28:09] supermarkets in five other countries have been
[00:28:12] affected by cyber attacks, where in several places the temperature has been turned up
[00:28:16] to 50 degrees in freezers and refrigerated display cases. In
[00:28:20] Belgium, which we see pictures from here, more than 50
[00:28:23] supermarkets were affected, also in Sweden,
[00:28:27] Luxembourg, Ireland and Estonia had
[00:28:30] problems. According to the supplier in Estonia, it was
[00:28:33] an older control system, from Danish Danfoss, just like what
[00:28:37] happened in France three weeks ago. The Danish Agency for
[00:28:40] Societal Security is investigating whether Danish stores have been affected and
[00:28:44] encourages store owners to review their cooling systems,
[00:28:47] as we just heard from Danish industry. And the
[00:28:51] Danish industrial group Danfoss now confirms that
[00:28:55] their products have been part of the cyberattacks that have
[00:28:58] taken place. We can confirm that the incidents reported
[00:29:02] in several European countries also involve our
[00:29:05] products. We have been in close dialogue with our customers for the
[00:29:09] past three weeks, and continue to help them manage
[00:29:13] the situation, says Danfoss. And our
[00:29:16] reporter has visited one of the stores in Scania, Sweden, that has been affected by
[00:29:20] the hacker attack. Well, here in the refrigerated display case,
[00:29:24] customers have unfortunately gone in vain
[00:29:26] for frozen berries and bread and
[00:29:30] everything else that one normally looks for here in
[00:29:33] the town of Sjöbo, which is a smaller town and not the capital here
[00:29:37] in Sweden, but nevertheless, at least it was
[00:29:41] quite a grim sight that awaited
[00:29:45] the store manager here when he arrived this morning. There were simply
[00:29:48] melted blueberry pies and
[00:29:52] all sorts of other things, so they simply spent
[00:29:55] the whole morning and morning simply throwing out and
[00:29:59] throwing out and throwing out hundreds of kilos have been thrown out,
[00:30:03] up to several tons of food has simply been thrown into the container,
[00:30:07] because, among other things, the freezers here and also a number
[00:30:10] of refrigerators had been turned up to 50 degrees during
[00:30:13] the night, so it's exactly the same as happened in
[00:30:17] France about three weeks ago, meaning they were not at all prepared for
[00:30:21] something like this to happen?
[00:30:24] No, they weren't. The situation is that it's a local grocer who owns the store
[00:30:28] here, and also the systems. ICA is a large
[00:30:32] chain of stores, so they have many
[00:30:36] stores, but several of them are
[00:30:39] by grocers, including the store here, so the
[00:30:43] systems have been their own to decide what they should be, so it simply
[00:30:46] came as a surprise to them that this
[00:30:49] could happen, and that's also what the store manager says, why
[00:30:53] should this happen to me, and that's also what customers are incomprehensible about, why?
[00:30:57] er også det som kunderne er uforstående overfor, altså hvorfor?