ERR — broadcast 20260920 033000 UTC 479 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:02] I don't even know who I [00:00:05] belong to. I belong to my loved ones, to my [00:00:08] closest family. I am their own. [00:00:11] Let's move to April 2013, when [00:00:14] your article [00:00:18] bloom on my path, "My Life with Ann Leena" was published. It was a frank [00:00:22] article about your home life, focusing [00:00:25] on your bedridden mother, who needed 24-hour [00:00:29] care. "A place in a nursing home was not [00:00:32] possible. This article received a lot [00:00:36] of feedback, a lot of sympathy, and a lot [00:00:40] of condemnation. It was another such [00:00:43] inflammatory boil that you [00:00:46] pressed. How do you look at all of that from 13 years [00:00:50] ago today? [00:00:53] vaatate, [00:00:57] It was a deep trauma that happened to us, because [00:01:01] it lasted four and a half years, [00:01:04] and I have communicated with people who have been in the same situation, [00:01:08] and I know, this is now, excuse me, a scientific fact, [00:01:11] that people who have been in such a situation, they eventually go [00:01:15] insane, they seek help, and this happens within a year and a half. [00:01:18] We lasted four and a half years [00:01:21] without anyone going insane. Well, it's true, [00:01:25] I fled to Käsmu, [00:01:27] and my husband then came on weekends, [00:01:30] came to Käsmu. So for the weekends, we managed to find a [00:01:33] caregiver, and he came to Käsmu, and then that helped him [00:01:37] to somehow get over it, but it lasted four and a half [00:01:40] years, and it hasn't let me go since, because [00:01:44] first, well, as journalists, we have noticed [00:01:47] that an interesting discussion has emerged about what happens [00:01:50] when an old person falls down at home. Who [00:01:53] comes and helps them up? Before, the police did it, now the police no longer [00:01:57] want to do it. So who will do it? [00:02:01] "When that thing happened with Ann Leena [00:02:03] and we asked some city social [00:02:07] structures if they could help us, there [00:02:10] was a phone line, the person on the other end of the line was silent for three [00:02:14] seconds and said, 'Call a friend.' [00:02:18] And nothing has changed, in my opinion, [00:02:21] you still have to call a friend, and this [00:02:24] doesn't let me go either, because we are now in a new [00:02:27] situation. It's true, now there is no longer..." [00:02:31] but there is another elderly lady, who was once Ann Leena's course mate [00:02:35] at the Estonian State Institute of Arts, and she [00:02:38] has no more children, her only child [00:02:41] died. She is in about the same [00:02:44] situation, and now my wife takes care of her. [00:02:48] So this thing keeps repeating itself. At the time, when [00:02:50] I brought up the eBay topic so well, the eBay topic, this is, by the way, one more thing that [00:02:54] I am accused of, [00:02:57] this old white middle-aged Estonian man. The man, [00:03:00] precisely the man, raises some such [00:03:02] problems. A man who no longer [00:03:06] gives birth or is not considered a parent, he only expects [00:03:09] from others. This accusation, which I reject [00:03:13] in my case, that my raising of the eBay topic [00:03:16] was not at all due to that, but precisely to the fact that society [00:03:20] is aging, and in an aging society, we will eventually [00:03:23] be in a situation where one half is bedridden, half [00:03:27] of society, and the other half of society is then dealing with their... [00:03:30] care, that we are moving in that direction, and [00:03:33] state structures are completely unable to do anything about it. Well, then what [00:03:37] happens, happens, that we had Ann Leena for four and a half [00:03:40] years bedridden, and we [00:03:43] didn't get any help, but there were very severe consequences for us [00:03:47] personally, I won't say now what, because that would be [00:03:51] too personal, but it left its mark, it didn't pass us [00:03:54] by without leaving a trace. But let's talk about the social [00:03:58] discussion that the article about Ann Leena [00:04:01] created. One painful reaction was when [00:04:05] an article appeared with the title: "My Life with Andrei [00:04:08] Fostov", to which you replied with the article "I, [00:04:12] Peeter Kreizberg's Envier". This was about [00:04:15] euthanasia and mercy killing, [00:04:18] and this is still a topic today, but what struck me in your previous [00:04:21] answer was that you said that 13 years have passed [00:04:25] and nothing has changed. Does this [00:04:28] mean that when a journalist raises a very painful topic [00:04:32] in society and gets [00:04:34] reactions and it all goes on and [00:04:37] lasts, that it doesn't lead anywhere [00:04:40] in the end? Mostly it doesn't. [00:04:43] The power of journalism is, it's an [00:04:45] exaggeration. Here's again, excuse me, we are both [00:04:49] journalists, I hold up a mirror to ourselves, that what was once taught [00:04:52] at the University of Tartu, the fourth estate, some [00:04:56] enormous levers of influence, it's [00:04:58] hit or miss. Of course, there have been cases where a journalist [00:05:02] removed a minister from office. Once, Postimees journalists succeeded [00:05:05] in that. Now, my colleague from Eesti [00:05:09] Ekspress succeeded, it seems, one could say. [00:05:12] Or the removal of Ando Keskküla from [00:05:16] his position. These were some so-called journalistic feats [00:05:20] or great achievements, but generally, when we are not talking [00:05:24] about certain specific individuals, but about some social [00:05:27] phenomena or processes, then we are still relatively powerless [00:05:31] to change anything. We look in the mirror, we say we are [00:05:34] powerless. I would like to add another look [00:05:37] in the mirror here. I read in your article how you were not yet [00:05:41] 60 and you looked... in the mirror in the swimming pool [00:05:44] changing room, how the skin was aging and [00:05:47] muscles were sagging. Have you come to terms [00:05:49] with that by now? It goes, that one must age, it goes very [00:05:53] difficultly, some things happen very, very [00:05:56] suddenly. I even thought for a moment that I should [00:05:59] start keeping an aging diary, [00:06:02] and one of my younger friends, or at least he was a friend before [00:06:06] the Gaza conflict, the Israeli-Palestinian, their [00:06:10] different interpretations of events, came... my friend, he even really [00:06:14] encouraged me to start keeping an aging diary, but that [00:06:18] is again such a psychological problem, that all [00:06:22] that I said before, that I would still like to stand in front of a mirror that shows me a little [00:06:25] more beautiful, that also applies to myself, or well, I don't want to [00:06:28] wallow in some physical ailments. [00:06:32] Of course, aging is a serious, serious such a serious [00:06:36] concern, that I can no longer attend my [00:06:40] Defense League exercises, for example. "At some point, I [00:06:43] realized that after two days of exercises in the forest on the weekend, [00:06:46] I would be completely sick for four days afterwards. I can't [00:06:49] do it anymore, the body no longer keeps up [00:06:53] with the vibrant spirit. [00:06:57] Sonar, [00:07:05] today we have as a guest journalist, essayist, and writer Andrei [00:07:08] Fostov. Your article about the German [00:07:11] right-wing protest party AFD's election victory [00:07:15] in one federal state was just published [00:07:19] in Eesti Ekspress, and in it was also your prediction [00:07:22] that old parties and promises have outlived their time, and voters want [00:07:26] something attractive and new and fancy. Why [00:07:30] in European countries, is Germany the one that has garnered your greatest [00:07:33] attention over the decades? [00:07:36] Why not France, why not [00:07:38] Great Britain? [00:07:41] But here we must go back to university, because [00:07:44] during my history studies, we were still required to learn German [00:07:48] and master the German language for perfectly understandable reasons, [00:07:51] because all our older documents are generally either [00:07:55] in German or Russian. These are two languages that an Estonian historian simply [00:07:59] must be able to handle. So [00:08:02] alongside such language studies, came the knowledge that, [00:08:06] generally, if we examine Estonian history or the Estonian people, the Estonian [00:08:10] cultural space, God forbid, it falls between Russia and Germany, [00:08:13] not, well, not between China and France, [00:08:17] not between Turkey and Italy. [00:08:20] On one side is Russia, and on the other side is [00:08:23] Germany, both of which have not only physically, but also mentally [00:08:27] very, very strongly influenced everything that happens [00:08:29] here. So therefore, to deal with Estonian history, [00:08:33] one must also deal very intensely with the history of both Russia [00:08:36] and Germany, and that is what I have done throughout [00:08:40] my life. "It's like two [00:08:44] blind spots, of course Germany, Germany interests [00:08:47] me very much, but as for [00:08:51] Alternative for Deutschland, Alternative [00:08:53] for Germany, it is a very, very [00:08:57] important phenomenon in that, first, [00:09:00] Germany is also a central country for Europe, with the largest [00:09:04] economy, and it is geographically located [00:09:07] in such a place that, if God forbid, if serious [00:09:11] problems with Russia should arise here, I don't [00:09:14] want to use the word war, but if something [00:09:17] like that happens, then all the aid that has to reach here [00:09:20] comes through Germany for geographical reasons. So if [00:09:24] lunatics come to power in Germany, excuse me, but that's what I'll say, for me they are [00:09:28] lunatics, Alternative for Deutschland, which is [00:09:31] emphatically Kremlin-friendly, then that also makes our geopolitical [00:09:35] situation extremely difficult. You [00:09:38] have communicated with immigrants in Germany, what [00:09:42] do they... Now you mean immigrants [00:09:45] of what kind, those who came to Germany during Mama Merkel's time and sought [00:09:49] asylum and received it. I can't say that I have communicated with them massively, [00:09:52] but well, there was once indeed a study trip and, well, I [00:09:56] have encountered them. [00:09:58] Oh, I can't say that it was during some sociological [00:10:02] research, but in that sense, they are very [00:10:06] understandable people to me, [00:10:08] that those countries or [00:10:11] those geographical points. "From where they have [00:10:14] fled, life cannot be lived very well there in our sense. Civil [00:10:18] wars are happening there, there are natural disasters, there are droughts. If [00:10:22] we lived in similar conditions, if we thought, 'Why [00:10:25] should I, if I have my hands and feet, if I can move, [00:10:29] maybe I would move several hundred kilometers, either west [00:10:32] or north, and reach a place where [00:10:35] I have heard that I can get [00:10:39] social assistance, and where I might be welcome, and most importantly, where [00:10:42] there is no civil war, no drought, no [00:10:45] hunger.' So in that sense, when I communicate [00:10:49] with them, it's very easy to scorn these people, but [00:10:52] now let's look in the mirror of our history again." [00:10:55] "Our boat refugees, when they crossed the Baltic Sea, went to [00:10:58] Sweden, went further west, [00:11:02] eventually reaching Canada, America, Australia, [00:11:06] it's the same logic, well, do we blame them for [00:11:10] fleeing from here, when life had truly become almost [00:11:13] impossible, and it's just that Baltic refugees [00:11:17] in their new host countries did not cause [00:11:20] such great protest [00:11:22] in those societies. [00:11:25] "Actually, [00:11:27] as much as we know about the situation in Sweden, our [00:11:30] intellectuals were not offered jobs in Sweden in the 40s [00:11:34] that they would have deserved based on their qualifications. Our [00:11:38] intellectuals, our conductors, were also [00:11:41] told to go and work in the forest, [00:11:45] and as far as I know, from relatively recent [00:11:48] times, this attitude persisted in Sweden for a very long [00:11:52] time, by the way, one of my schoolmates once [00:11:56] worked as a senior teacher at a gymnasium in Stockholm, or well, an assistant, [00:12:00] in short, a senior history teacher, [00:12:02] and the fact that he reached such a high position, then [00:12:06] one Swedish newspaper once, was [00:12:09] it even Svenska Dagbladet, but I won't [00:12:12] say that for now, but anyway, wrote an success story about him, saying, 'Look, if you [00:12:16] accuse Swedish society of how refugees are excluded from [00:12:20] good and important jobs, then look, we have such an example, where an Estonian [00:12:22] person has [00:12:25] come, an Igor, he was also [00:12:29] on the borderline, a borderline phenomenon, he was [00:12:32] half-Estonian, half-Ukrainian, he was fully Ukrainian, [00:12:35] but very gifted linguistically, it's a shame he went to [00:12:38] Sweden. 'Look how high a position he has [00:12:42] reached.' So in relation to Estonians, the [00:12:45] behavior in some societies was also a bit [00:12:48] dismissive, but secondly, what I want to say is that now we come back to [00:12:52] the cultural space. I still like to use [00:12:56] that phrase, that term, then the Estonian [00:12:59] cultural space is still relatively close to the cultural space of the countries [00:13:03] where Estonians emigrated, unlike [00:13:06] refugees from the Middle East or North Africa or wherever they come from, [00:13:10] and that is still such a huge change for them. They cannot [00:13:14] cope here, they don't understand what the rules of the game [00:13:17] are here, they try to behave as they behaved in their [00:13:19] old homeland, and then our mistake is that, I'm now making a very [00:13:23] broad generalization, based on Germany, that this [00:13:26] multiculturalism and multiculti concept [00:13:29] assumed that they would come from there and with their [00:13:32] own customs, which may [00:13:35] be very different from our customs, but they would somehow still find their [00:13:39] niches and then live a somewhat parallel life, enriching [00:13:42] at the same time the German-speaking and light [00:13:45] culture, light culture is such a close concept to cultural space, [00:13:49] they enrich the cultural life of the old [00:13:52] European nations, and this was such an [00:13:55] idealistic, naive expectation, because [00:13:58] reality shows that these things do not go so [00:14:01] smoothly, and since these things do not go smoothly at [00:14:05] all, then such populist movements [00:14:09] like MAGA in America and the AFD in Germany, [00:14:12] they gain momentum, and I understand [00:14:15] the roots of this phenomenon [00:14:18] very well. By the way, I now emphasize to the listeners [00:14:22] that understanding does not mean approval. [00:14:25] "Although sometimes it's thought that these are synonyms, that if I understand something, [00:14:28] it doesn't mean I approve of it. But well, I am [00:14:31] such a societal observer, I consciously sometimes put myself in the [00:14:35] position of an outsider. It's a little more comfortable and creates some [00:14:39] distance. Even with Estonian phenomena [00:14:42] and processes, I consciously sometimes take an outsider's [00:14:45] position. It's easier for me too. [00:14:49] I never miss an opportunity to listen to your comments [00:14:53] on Vikerhommik about the Russian-Ukrainian [00:14:56] fronts. It seems to me that your information channels are somewhat [00:15:00] different from those on which we hear information every day. [00:15:04] What channels do you follow to keep [00:15:07] yourself informed about events in Europe or [00:15:11] Ukraine? After the outbreak of this full-scale [00:15:14] war, many Russian journalists, decent Russian [00:15:18] journalists, immigrated to the West. And now [00:15:21] they have created their own media channels there. It's [00:15:24] not only Dozhd or "Rain" in Estonian, but [00:15:28] there is also Alexander Plyushchev, he was once [00:15:32] one of the prominent figures at Ekho Moskvy, and he has now created his own [00:15:35] podcast [00:15:37] channel, "Breakfast Show" in the mornings, [00:15:40] by the way, and there are a lot of those, well, [00:15:44] again, people who have emigrated from Russia, and there are those [00:15:47] people declared wanted, who then [00:15:51] widely provide, well, analytical [00:15:54] material for thought [00:15:56] on what is happening in Ukraine. Why do I trust them? Firstly, [00:16:00] they are in sharp [00:16:03] confrontation with Putin's regime, and [00:16:06] secondly, because it is still their own, so to speak, [00:16:10] society or former homeland that is at war, they are extremely [00:16:13] interested in monitoring these processes, and [00:16:17] in some sense, it is still their personal matter, which cannot [00:16:20] be said about German, American, French [00:16:24] analysts. And [00:16:26] by following these sources and channels, I have come to understand an [00:16:30] interesting paradox concerning our own [00:16:33] media coverage of the Ukrainian war. I have come [00:16:37] to the conclusion that most of what is said here [00:16:41] is Ukrainian propaganda. Now please take [00:16:43] it easy, let's take a deep breath in, take a deep breath [00:16:47] out, and I will now explain [00:16:49] my [00:16:51] thought. It's that old joke about the difference between a scout [00:16:54] and a spy. A scout is our guy, a spy is the enemy's [00:16:58] guy. What's the difference between a journalist [00:17:01] and a propagandist? A journalist is our guy, a propagandist is their [00:17:05] guy. Since we sympathize so much with Ukraine, [00:17:08] we tend to convey some information or make such [00:17:12] conclusions that somehow [00:17:15] show that, firstly, we are on Ukraine's side, that we want Ukraine to win, and [00:17:19] then we again start glossing over reality. At some point, [00:17:23] I actually decided that I would no longer participate in this. I also wrote [00:17:27] those war diaries, which we have on Delfi media, [00:17:29] and for about a year and a half, I played [00:17:33] along, but then I realized that [00:17:36] it's impossible to endlessly predict the imminent [00:17:40] collapse of Putin's regime. It's impossible to [00:17:43] seriously talk about Ukraine inevitably winning, [00:17:46] because truth and justice and everything, [00:17:50] God himself is on Ukraine's side. The war has now dragged on for the fifth [00:17:53] year, no solution is in sight, and all those [00:17:56] optimistic stories from back then, in which I myself also participated [00:18:00] a little, they retrospectively become, [00:18:04] well, what were we doing then, fooling ourselves [00:18:08] to make ourselves feel better, [00:18:10] and the same thing is happening now with the Middle East conflict, because I very, very [00:18:14] closely follow what the BBC or The Guardian, two [00:18:18] publications that were once my favorites, write about the Middle East [00:18:21] events, then they have become propagandists in the same way, [00:18:25] who have then quite clearly taken a pro-Palestinian [00:18:28] side, as if that would alleviate [00:18:31] the suffering of the people and help [00:18:35] change something. I don't know if I answered your [00:18:38] question, this is again what we started our conversation with, namely, [00:18:42] that we look in the mirror wanting to see what we [00:18:46] like, or what we want to believe. Now, are these [00:18:49] your sentences? You are what you read, [00:18:53] and our first 100 books are more important than the next [00:19:02] and Vladimir Putin read in childhood? What [00:19:05] books? [00:19:08] "Now regarding Lenin, I was left without [00:19:12] an answer, but one of Adolf Hitler's [00:19:13] favorite writers [00:19:16] was Karl May, who wrote amazing [00:19:19] stories about Wild West adventures. There was a character called Old [00:19:23] Shatterhand, and in my opinion, his companion was [00:19:26] Winnetou, and interestingly, that Estonian [00:19:30] children's literature in translation didn't really make waves [00:19:34] in our region, it seems they only started republishing [00:19:38] them during the re-establishment of independence. Some books have come into my hands, but [00:19:41] Karl May was in his time at the beginning of the 20th [00:19:45] century, he was a very well-known children's author, [00:19:49] adventure writer, and Adolf Hitler had probably read all his [00:19:53] works, and this led to an interesting consequence, [00:19:56] that Hitler during World War II, when things [00:19:59] on the Russian front began to go very badly, and he often [00:20:02] barked at his generals, German generals, that they didn't know how [00:20:05] to fight, then... there's a legend, but perhaps more than a legend, [00:20:09] that he gave each general a copy of Karl May's [00:20:12] story collection about Old Shatterhand, and said that if they now read [00:20:16] these books, they might actually learn how [00:20:18] to fight. So in that sense, well, even as an old [00:20:22] man, he was essentially 15 years old, he was a teenager, he [00:20:25] thought like a teenager. All his projects of building a grand [00:20:29] Berlin, rebuilding Linz, rebuilding Linz, his [00:20:33] former hometown, one of his hometowns, architecturally, [00:20:36] he began... to admit it at the age of 15, and then when he was [00:20:39] finally the dictator and ruler of Germany, he wanted to fulfill his [00:20:42] 15-year-old boy's dreams, [00:20:46] well, completely like a person with developmental delay. [00:20:52] In front of us here on the studio table is your [00:20:54] book, which talks about books that [00:20:58] keep you awake at night, and as far as I've [00:21:01] heard, this is the first book in a longer [00:21:05] series of reading diaries. And I understand that [00:21:08] it's not just that you read it and write down your impressions, [00:21:11] but you compare [00:21:14] translations with the original, [00:21:18] you look for recurring [00:21:21] patterns with other authors, other [00:21:24] works, and you say that this makes reading [00:21:27] a slow and demanding [00:21:30] task, so it's not a reading diary, it's [00:21:33] still work. It's a very interesting [00:21:35] idea to read a book, but [00:21:39] so deeply that it becomes work. [00:21:42] There are such books, the reading of which is indeed work and hard and tough [00:21:45] work. For example, Hitler's Mein Kampf, [00:21:49] reading it is not exactly a pleasure, but I have [00:21:52] somehow managed to get through it. I have never [00:21:56] understood Karl Marx's Das Kapital. And I have [00:21:59] a feeling that most people haven't read it at all, not even our [00:22:02] our diligent leftist theoreticians. They [00:22:05] simply know some chapter and then constantly refer [00:22:09] to it, and no one has actually read that brick [00:22:12] through. But of course, there are books whose reading is pure pleasure, and pleasure in the sense [00:22:16] that, well, if you just asked me, that... [00:22:20] seeking parallels, that seeking means such a thing [00:22:23] as you take a flashlight and then start [00:22:26] rummaging in some dark corners and then searching. It's not [00:22:30] quite like that for me. During reading, certain parallels just [00:22:33] arise in my mind. [00:22:36] When did I notice that? I guess when the publisher, it was [00:22:40] Päike ja Pilv, asked me to [00:22:44] write an afterword for "The Dairyman of Mäeküla," [00:22:47] Vilde's "The Dairyman of Mäeküla." And [00:22:51] I gladly took on this task, and then I suddenly discovered [00:22:55] that, well, I started [00:22:58] seeing "Prillupimari," the red skirt, [00:23:02] the red color, which the writer refers to, that it's not [00:23:05] just there. The same motive is in one of Leo Tolstoy's [00:23:08] short stories, in one of Leo Tolstoy's short stories, which was published [00:23:11] earlier than "The Dairyman of Mäeküla," that there is also a [00:23:15] farm woman who has a relationship with a landlord, and her characteristic color is red. [00:23:18] "And I wrote it down [00:23:21] just like that, and then I discovered that when [00:23:24] I analyze literary texts, [00:23:27] then these connections start [00:23:30] forming, and why not use that in future [00:23:34] work, in the current book, "Books that keep me awake at [00:23:38] night." I have simply followed this method, not that I [00:23:41] would have painfully acquired the method, it just [00:23:45] came naturally. [00:23:48] and this this..." searching for parallels and [00:23:51] finding some patterns or partly perhaps [00:23:54] inventing them, just like I, well, maybe I really [00:23:58] invented a connection between Herman Hesse's Steppenwolf and Duve [00:24:02] Jansson's Moomintrolls, but this is not [00:24:05] an academic text. I just take the position [00:24:08] of a simple reader, and what rushes through my mind [00:24:12] while reading, well, who can analyze that, [00:24:15] but if it brings [00:24:17] joy to readers and... they said they read these [00:24:21] things with great pleasure, then that's great. The fact that you don't [00:24:25] have an academic approach makes your [00:24:28] reading diaries very charming. [00:24:32] That was an interview with Andrei Fostov. Thank you very much. I am [00:24:35] Kaja Kärner, and we will meet the listener next week. Until then! [00:25:01] When spring quickly again so tenderly [00:25:05] warms I [00:25:08] my bed stays empty at night my bed stays empty [00:25:11] the bed cannot hum [00:25:14] no when the gentle wind caresses [00:25:18] and the birds sing. joy songs [00:25:21] great, [00:25:23] from my soul, peace, suddenly comes, suddenly [00:25:27] comes, a clear [00:25:29] sound, [00:25:33] high in the blue sky endless [00:25:36] year after year a cloud after [00:25:38] sails, [00:25:40] I know that you, my cloud, can also [00:25:44] see, [00:25:48] come to me now, it's not so good, I [00:25:51] don't ask for anything more, [00:25:55] but I want to give you [00:25:58] everything. [00:26:03] "when a flame burns in hearts and great [00:26:05] happiness still [00:26:08] feels, [00:26:10] when a kiss burns my mouth and [00:26:13] a warm hand caresses me again [00:26:17] and again, then flowers [00:26:20] on my path again peace finds [00:26:23] me again, [00:26:27] high in the blue sky fragmentation scrapes [00:26:31] a cloud and' still sails, [00:26:35] I know that you, my film, can also [00:26:38] see, [00:26:42] come to me now, be so [00:26:45] peaceful, I don't ask [00:26:48] for anything more, but I want to [00:26:52] give you [00:26:53] everything, [00:26:58] when a flame burns in hearts and great happiness [00:27:01] still [00:27:03] feels, [00:27:05] when greatness burns my mouth and [00:27:08] a warm hand caresses me again [00:27:11] and again, then flowers bloom on my [00:27:14] path again peace finds [00:27:18] me, ni wewe.