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20260920 233000 UTC
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[00:01:01] "in some societies also somewhat repelling, but
[00:01:05] secondly, what I'm saying is that now we come back to the custom space,
[00:01:08] I still like to use that word pair, that
[00:01:11] term, then the Estonian custom space is still, well, relatively
[00:01:14] close to the custom space of the countries where Estonians
[00:01:18] emigrated, unlike refugees from the Middle East or North Africa
[00:01:22] or wherever they all come from, and that is
[00:01:24] still a huge change for them, they can't cope
[00:01:28] here, they don't understand what the rules of the game are." " are, um, they
[00:01:31] try to behave as they did in their old homeland,
[00:01:34] and then our mistake is that, I'm now generalizing
[00:01:38] based on Germany, that the
[00:01:41] multiculturalism, multi-culti concept,
[00:01:44] it was thought that they would come from there with their
[00:01:47] own customs, which might be very different
[00:01:50] from ours, but they would somehow find their niches
[00:01:54] and then live their own lives in parallel, while enriching
[00:01:57] the, uh, light
[00:02:00] culture, light culture is such a very close
[00:02:03] concept to custom space, well, they enrich the cultural life of the
[00:02:07] old European peoples, and this
[00:02:10] was such a very idealistic,
[00:02:13] naive expectation, because reality shows that these things
[00:02:16] don't go so smoothly, and since these things don't go smoothly at all,
[00:02:20] in reality, then such populist movements
[00:02:24] like Maaga in America or AFD
[00:02:27] in Germany, they gain momentum. And I also understand
[00:02:30] very well the roots of this
[00:02:33] phenomenon, incidentally, I now, just in case, emphasize
[00:02:37] to the listeners that understanding does not mean approval,
[00:02:40] although sometimes people think they are synonyms, that if I understand
[00:02:43] something, it means that I approve, but well, I am
[00:02:46] just such a social observer, I consciously put myself sometimes
[00:02:50] in the position of an outsider, it's a little more comfortable
[00:02:54] and creates a certain distance, also regarding some Estonian
[00:02:57] phenomena and processes, I consciously take the position
[00:03:00] of an outsider, it's easier for me too.
[00:03:04] I never miss an opportunity to listen to your comments
[00:03:08] on the Russian-Ukrainian fronts on Viker morning.
[00:03:11] It seems to me that your information channels are somewhat
[00:03:15] different from those on which we hear information
[00:03:19] every day, so what channels do you follow
[00:03:22] to stay informed about events in Europe or
[00:03:26] Ukraine? After the outbreak
[00:03:29] of this full-scale war, many Russian
[00:03:31] journalists, proper Russian journalists immigrated
[00:03:34] to the West, and now they have created their own
[00:03:37] media channels there, it's not just Dost
[00:03:41] or rain in Estonian, but there is also
[00:03:45] Alexander Blushev, he was once one of the big players
[00:03:49] at Ehomaskvõu, so he has now created his own such a
[00:03:52] podcast channel, breakfast show in the mornings
[00:03:55] incidentally, and there are many such
[00:03:59] well, again... people who have emigrated from Russia
[00:04:02] and are declared wanted there, who then provide extensively, well,
[00:04:06] analytical
[00:04:09] material for thought on what is happening in Ukraine,
[00:04:13] so why do I trust them? Firstly, they are
[00:04:17] in sharp confrontation with
[00:04:19] the Putin regime, and secondly, because it is still
[00:04:23] their so-called society or former homeland
[00:04:26] that is fighting, they are extremely interested in also... monitoring these
[00:04:30] processes, and in some sense, it is still
[00:04:34] their personal matter, which
[00:04:36] cannot be said about German-American
[00:04:39] French analysts, and by following these
[00:04:43] sources and channels, I have realized an interesting paradox
[00:04:47] that now concerns our own media coverage of the war
[00:04:50] in Ukraine, I have come to the conclusion that most of what
[00:04:54] is said here is Ukrainian
[00:04:56] propaganda. Now please take it easy.
[00:05:00] "Let's take a deep breath in, take a deep breath out,
[00:05:03] I'll explain my thought,
[00:05:06] it's that old old joke, what's the difference between a scout
[00:05:09] and a spy? A scout is our man, a spy
[00:05:13] is their man. What's the difference between a journalist
[00:05:16] and a propagandist? A journalist is our man, a propagandist is their
[00:05:20] man. Since we sympathize so much with Ukraine,
[00:05:23] we tend to convey such information or make such
[00:05:27] conclusions that seem to indicate
[00:05:30] that, firstly, we are on Ukraine's side, that we want Ukraine to win, and then
[00:05:34] we start to gloss over reality again. At some point
[00:05:38] I actually decided that I would no longer participate in this, I did write
[00:05:42] war diaries, which we have in Delfi media,
[00:05:45] and for about a year and a half I played
[00:05:48] along, but then I realized that
[00:05:51] it's impossible to endlessly predict the imminent
[00:05:55] collapse of the Putin regime, it's impossible to seriously
[00:05:58] talk about Ukraine inevitably winning,
[00:06:01] because truth and justice and and everything, God
[00:06:05] himself is on Ukraine's side, the war is now dragging on for the fifth
[00:06:08] year, no solution is in sight, and all those
[00:06:11] optimistic stories from back then, in which
[00:06:15] I myself participated a little, they turn
[00:06:18] out in hindsight to be us deluding ourselves,
[00:06:21] so that our mood would improve,
[00:06:25] and the same thing is happening now with this Middle East conflict, because I very, very
[00:06:29] closely follow what BBC or Guardian, two
[00:06:33] publications that were once my favorites, what they write about
[00:06:36] events in the Middle East, then they have become similar propagandists, who
[00:06:40] have then clearly taken the Palestinian side,
[00:06:43] as if that would somehow alleviate
[00:06:46] the suffering of the people, help to change
[00:06:50] something? I don't know if I answered your
[00:06:53] question, it's again what we started our conversation
[00:06:57] with, which is that we look in the mirror, wishing to see
[00:07:00] what we like or