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[00:00:00] At 2:15 p.m., President-elect Ülle Madise, together with her husband Kadri Org, will arrive at the Presidential Office, where they will be
[00:00:04] received by President Alar Karis and
[00:00:06] Sirje Karis. From there, they will proceed together to the square
[00:00:10] in front of the Riigikogu building. President Talar Karis will greet the honor guard
[00:00:13] company of the Guard Battalion lined up on the palace square, and the presidents
[00:00:16] will proceed to Toompea Castle. At
[00:00:20] 3:00 p.m., Alar Karis will deliver a speech. President-elect Ülle Madise
[00:00:23] will take the oath of office and deliver her first speech as president.
[00:00:27] The oath-taking ceremony and speeches can be watched on television via the National
[00:00:31] Broadcasting
[00:00:35] Corporation. Last night, police once again apprehended 10 Sudanese citizens
[00:00:39] who were illegally residing in Estonia in the Nõmme district of Tallinn. Last night, around
[00:00:43] 7:30 p.m., police received a report of two men on Valdeku Street.
[00:00:46] It turned out that the men were illegally in Estonia, and
[00:00:49] there were more people hiding in the area. Police initiated
[00:00:52] a search, which involved service dogs, drones, and
[00:00:55] rescue workers. Eight more men were found in a nearby forest.
[00:00:59] They tried to escape from the police, and one of the men injured his
[00:01:03] hand while fleeing and was taken to the hospital. After first aid,
[00:01:06] he was also taken to the detention center.
[00:01:09] All ten men lacked a legal basis for being in Estonia, and
[00:01:12] only one had an identity
[00:01:14] document.
[00:01:18] you force them? Yes, we Today, negotiations will begin between the Estonian Trade Union Confederation and the Employers' Confederation
[00:01:22] on next year's minimum wage. The goal of the negotiations is to increase
[00:01:25] the purchasing power of low-wage workers and move towards
[00:01:28] the agreed target, according to which the minimum wage should reach half
[00:01:32] of the average Estonian wage. According to Kaia Vase, head of the
[00:01:35] Estonian Trade Union Confederation, the purchasing power of the Estonian minimum wage
[00:01:39] is one of the lowest in the European Union. According to her, a full-time worker should be able
[00:01:42] to cover all essential living expenses with their salary. The negotiations
[00:01:46] will be based on the goodwill agreement signed in
[00:01:50] 2023. Talks begin today at 1
[00:01:53] p.m.
[00:01:56] Russia continues to attack Ukrainian cities with drones and missiles, but
[00:01:59] Ukraine is also increasingly retaliating. In recent years, Ukrainians have significantly increased
[00:02:03] their ability to attack targets deep within Russian territory. In the
[00:02:07] "Ukraine Studio" program, Air Force Chief of Staff Colonel Freddy Karu
[00:02:10] explained how Ukraine is trying to weaken Russia's warfare
[00:02:14] with counterattacks. weaken.
[00:02:17] They have greatly developed and improved
[00:02:21] this capability in recent years
[00:02:24] and also made it more massive. So,
[00:02:26] many days they attack. already
[00:02:30] more than in my territory and
[00:02:33] unlike the Russian Federation, which often
[00:02:37] bombs cities and then from Ukraine, they continue
[00:02:40] to maintain that line that primarily
[00:02:43] military targets, such as various airbases,
[00:02:46] command points, but they have that other bigger
[00:02:50] idea always behind attacking
[00:02:52] defense industry enterprises and also those from which the Russian
[00:02:55] Federation makes money, so to speak. makes money.
[00:02:59] News.
[00:03:02] Six civilians died in Russia's latest air strikes on Ukrainian
[00:03:05] cities. In Kharkiv, a grocery store was attacked, killing
[00:03:09] three and wounding 20 people. Among the wounded
[00:03:12] are two children. The Kharkiv prosecutor's office was also hit. No
[00:03:16] one was injured there. A thermal power plant was also attacked, despite
[00:03:19] the so-called energy truce between Russia
[00:03:23] and Ukraine, which US President Donald Trump announced
[00:03:26] yesterday.
[00:03:29] Russia interfered in the United Kingdom's Brexit vote ten
[00:03:32] years ago, said UK Prime Minister Andy Burnham.
[00:03:36] I asked the question coming into Downing Street,
[00:03:38] well was there
[00:03:41] interference in the 2016 referendum from
[00:03:45] Russia and I've had the clear answer that yes there was and these things are
[00:03:48] important now to put clearly on the
[00:03:51] record and I believe help voters in
[00:03:55] Germany and France understand that some of this
[00:03:58] politics is in. instigated
[00:04:01] via - our enemies, namely uh Russia. I think we've
[00:04:05] been too much on the back foot on that actually, and we haven't informed people
[00:04:08] sufficiently about the extent to which people are are seeking
[00:04:12] to um to disrupt the political process from
[00:04:15] overseas.
[00:04:17] Back to home and the weather. Today it will be mostly cloudy, with clearings
[00:04:21] around the Gulf of Livonia and in Southern Estonia. It will rain and occasionally heavy rain, and
[00:04:24] there may be thunderstorms in the morning. The wind will be variable
[00:04:28] from 1 to 6 m/s. On the northern coast, the wind will be easterly and northeasterly
[00:04:32] 7-13 m/s, with gusts up to 18 m/s.
[00:04:35] The air temperature will remain between 8 and 13
[00:05:08] quickly say that we had to lift him with the ramp into the warehouse. And
[00:05:12] through the warehouse, we came here to the Terevisioon studio, and here we are
[00:05:16] again, and Heiki and
[00:05:18] Hendra. Let's talk about it, you are the
[00:05:21] initiators of this wheelchair parkour, meaning that you are
[00:05:25] seriously concerned that it is very difficult
[00:05:28] to get into buildings with a wheelchair. Hendra, how many stories do you have
[00:05:32] about being stuck outside the door?
[00:05:36] It has happened, but not too often, because
[00:05:39] there is always a solution, sometimes people
[00:05:42] get stuck because they panic when they see that I am somewhere
[00:05:46] behind a door and I want to come in too, but obviously there are
[00:05:49] some inaccessible so-called
[00:05:52] elements at the door, then
[00:05:56] usually what helps is communication, that you talk it through
[00:05:59] with the person organizing the event, or wherever
[00:06:02] you want to get in, that hey, there's always an option, even
[00:06:06] through the back door, like here, we came in from the warehouse, so
[00:06:10] it's not that the building is inaccessible.
[00:06:13] "but you have to do a little parkour sometimes to get in or
[00:06:17] then come another time, so it's not
[00:06:20] really that I've been stuck outside the door too much, even. Well, that sounds
[00:06:23] nice, Erki, is it more of a problem with old buildings or also with new
[00:06:27] buildings that you can't get in with a wheelchair, because I understand that you, Hendra,
[00:06:31] as a companion, walk on two legs and sometimes have to be very physically
[00:06:34] strong to really push us onto the ramp
[00:06:38] this morning, because the incline was very steep, and no, that happens everywhere,
[00:06:42] that, uh, of course, it happens more often with old buildings,
[00:06:45] but it also happens with new buildings, that, uh, until now, the awareness
[00:06:49] in our society about accessibility is quite low, and that is also
[00:06:53] the goal of our social media platform channel,
[00:06:56] to raise general awareness. Actually, we have all the standards in place, we have
[00:06:59] everything written down on paper, but for some reason, it hasn't reached people. I just thought that
[00:07:03] we've been talking about this for, well, I don't want to say for the last five years, but rather
[00:07:07] for the last perhaps 20 years, right? But the results are still
[00:07:10] meager, you feel it yourself. Yes, I am, yes, I
[00:07:14] constantly hear about accessibility being discussed, but
[00:07:18] usually it is thought that it is a very complicated
[00:07:21] journey to make something accessible. We simply,
[00:07:25] I don't know, young and reckless people just, let's just make
[00:07:28] ramps there, let's talk to the building owner and
[00:07:32] we have already taken the first steps in accessibility, you know,
[00:07:35] at Möku, at the TV Tower,
[00:07:38] at Uus Laine, in places where festivals and events take place.
[00:07:41] "So it's not really that complicated, you just
[00:07:45] have to get the word out sometimes, mm-hmm, so,
[00:07:48] yes, you had a good example with the Viljandi Folk, yes,
[00:07:52] it was, we went to the Viljandi Folk and there was a stage
[00:07:56] in a church, I think, and then there was a long, long ramp, everything was well
[00:07:59] made, but there was a small step on the ramp, which shows
[00:08:03] well, that, uh, that everything was thought through by the architect, but the builder, for example,
[00:08:07] wasn't, so there was a lack of awareness on that part, but at the same time, it was funny that as soon as we
[00:08:10] went to look for these things, well..." "I panicked and went inside, started looking for
[00:08:14] planks, you know, stuff, found a person, came out, and Hendra was already upstairs, waving
[00:08:18] at me, oh, the problem was already solved, the problem was already solved, so four
[00:08:21] big men lifted her up from there, mm-hmm, but that wheelchair is pretty heavy
[00:08:25] to lift, right? It's 200 kg, plus me, yes, four
[00:08:28] men, well, you don't carry it up the stairs to the fifth floor, yes, impossible, impossible, yes,
[00:08:32] mm-hmm, we haven't done that, but or not yet,
[00:08:36] maybe that's my goal, mm-hmm, yes, you talk to
[00:08:39] architects too, what they should think about and?" " what
[00:08:42] to pay attention to, do they look at you with surprised faces, oh, really, they hadn't thought
[00:08:46] of it themselves, Hendra mm yes, actually
[00:08:50] Erki can tell you more about it, that
[00:08:54] basically, architects, well, we weren't taught in school, at least, and there
[00:08:58] isn't really a separate subject, so Hendri and I thought, oh, let's do it ourselves,
[00:09:01] right? You have to start with the foundations,
[00:09:04] right? So that architects need to know, builders need to know, property maintenance,
[00:09:08] then all these different foundations are in place, so then they can probably move forward
[00:09:12] and... it's very important that it's done very practically, not as a dry lecture,
[00:09:15] and experienced firsthand, similarly, we create social media
[00:09:19] channels precisely because it's so fun, because for decades
[00:09:22] it's been seen that the thing doesn't work, that it's always such a sad and taboo
[00:09:25] topic, no one wants to talk about it, but it's also a little embarrassing, well, how could we not
[00:09:29] have thought about a person in a wheelchair wanting to come too, eyes are cast down,
[00:09:33] right? But if we haven't thought about it, then let's start thinking quickly, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, and then I
[00:09:37] think if we talk about everything happily, then you still think back that good
[00:09:41] things always stay in your memory longer. "And people actually want, our social media channel has shown
[00:09:44] that if it's joyful, people follow more and then start thinking along
[00:09:48] with it, yes, exactly, that actually I've talked so much about accessibility,
[00:09:52] but after a couple of years of talking about it, I thought
[00:09:56] that nothing was changing, so I thought, let's just do it ourselves,
[00:09:59] ask the building owner for permission and
[00:10:02] build it ourselves, so that we just make the first prototype, so
[00:10:06] that people can see what it's for and how much bigger their
[00:10:10] clientele can get, then actually we get quite a lot." We get
[00:10:13] DMs on Instagram, how someone,
[00:10:17] just recently, it was also that she finished
[00:10:20] 12th grade and then she was in a wheelchair and then she went to celebrate
[00:10:23] with her classmates for the last time in Möku, where we made
[00:10:27] it accessible, so it affects
[00:11:55] "appeals
[00:11:57] that the rehabilitation reform is currently being put on hold, that it is really being discussed
[00:12:01] whether the implementation of this reform will make life
[00:12:03] better for those people who need it, who will get help,
[00:12:07] who need to get help, and Ellemaa, head of the Rakvere Doctors' Society, and
[00:12:11] Marja Krais Leosk, Executive Director of the Estonian Chamber of Disabled People, are on television this morning, good
[00:12:15] morning, good, good morning, the government has already
[00:12:18] approved it, right, this matter has gone to the Riigikogu,
[00:12:21] but looking at it from your perspective, do you understand what the problems are
[00:12:25] when you meet with those people? It's not all very well written
[00:12:28] down. Let's start. Yes, uh, if you look at it
[00:12:32] from the perspective of general practitioners, we have many questions and suggestions that,
[00:12:36] in our opinion, have remained unresolved throughout the entire
[00:12:39] involvement process so far, and it seems that,
[00:12:42] despite the apology that this reform has been prepared for six or seven
[00:12:45] years, they are still trying to do things very quickly,
[00:12:49] very hastily, in such a way that the nuances are genuinely
[00:12:53] unresolved. Well, the goal is noble, of course, that no one drowns in
[00:12:56] bureaucracy and that those people who need help get exactly
[00:13:00] the help they truly need, but that doesn't shine through, or
[00:13:04] is such a goal achievable with the current description, as it is written
[00:13:08] there? Well, just like general practitioners, we also have
[00:13:11] the same question, that there are still many
[00:13:14] open questions, and the devil is in the details, which is why it is necessary
[00:13:18] to actually discuss the details in detail, because otherwise,
[00:13:22] we will adopt this major reform plan
[00:13:25] without knowing what awaits us
[00:13:27] in the future. From the perspective of general practitioners, there will be more bureaucracy,
[00:13:31] and general practitioners will also have to start checking whether that person
[00:13:35] needs rehabilitation, what kind of
[00:13:37] specialists they need, but this is like duplicating control,
[00:13:41] general practitioners shouldn't actually have to do that, do I understand correctly if I just
[00:13:44] described that line very simply now? Very simply
[00:13:47] put, yes, that if today the prerequisite
[00:13:50] for receiving rehabilitation services is a disability, right, which
[00:13:53] they now want to remove, which is a positive thing, so that
[00:13:57] people can more easily access rehabilitation services, that is, what
[00:14:00] they need to cope. Now it is found that
[00:14:04] in addition to the assessor of rehabilitation service needs,
[00:14:07] a general practitioner stage should be added, which in our
[00:14:10] opinion is not sensible, because there would be in addition, yes, well,
[00:14:14] today, in broad terms, in today's system, it is replaced
[00:14:17] by the document round
[00:14:20] and the role of the Social Insurance Board, right, so in broad terms, that would be transferred
[00:14:23] to the general practitioner, who would be the first filter to see if they can even
[00:14:27] proceed, and for us, it seems unreasonable because if a person
[00:14:30] comes to me who obviously has a need and
[00:14:34] interest in these rehabilitation services to
[00:14:37] cope better in life, then why should I say that they
[00:14:40] don't need them and that I won't let you go to the assessor who
[00:14:44] will then make the final decision as to whether and what services they will receive? Well, and with this
[00:14:48] comes the question of who will pay for all this, then there will be
[00:14:51] extra working hours, so there are as you said, the devil... in the details, so
[00:14:55] all this will come in a row
[00:14:58] additionally. Yes, we have a feeling that the calculations that have been made
[00:15:02] in the explanatory memorandum of the bill are too optimistic, meaning
[00:15:06] that the calculations have been made according to the current system, where
[00:15:10] a disability is a prerequisite for these services,
[00:15:12] but actually, if it happens that people receive services
[00:15:16] according to their needs, then there are significantly more people who
[00:15:20] would need these services, and they also have easier access, meaning
[00:15:23] that work will definitely increase... Well, for some, the question arises, what does
[00:15:26] this mean, no longer needing a disability or? Uh, a disability is,
[00:15:30] well, not necessarily needed, but to access services, it is actually
[00:15:33] reasonable that we don't use it as a filter, because
[00:15:36] uh... and applying for that disability, determining it, that already
[00:15:40] takes its time, and is it really our goal that people
[00:15:43] absolutely must have a disability to receive rehabilitation services, or
[00:15:46] could we actually prevent that with rehabilitation services,
[00:15:49] so that idea is good in that sense, and
[00:15:53] we definitely welcome that,
[00:15:56] that do we have the people who then provide these different services, meaning
[00:16:00] different people, people with different disabilities, people with different needs also
[00:16:04] need different specialists to assist and help them? "Is it
[00:16:07] foreseen in this reform and understood that
[00:16:11] we actually have and ensured that we have these people
[00:16:14] who help those in need? Today, we naturally
[00:16:17] have rehabilitation service providers, but this is one of
[00:16:21] the concerns of the Estonian Chamber of Disabled People, too, whether
[00:16:24] as this reform is planned today, that the Health Insurance Fund
[00:16:28] or the Health Board has large contract partners, and whether
[00:16:31] smaller so-called providers will become contract partners
[00:16:34] of these large contract partners, because the expertise of these
[00:16:37] small specialized rehabilitation service
[00:16:40] providers and competence is something
[00:16:44] that is not easily found in Estonia,
[00:16:47] for example, rehabilitation for the blind,
[00:16:50] hard of hearing, people with aphasia, that today, actually,
[00:16:54] these people receive the necessary
[00:16:57] rehabilitation services from precisely these small
[00:17:01] institutions, but these small institutions may be left out by this reform
[00:17:05] if they don't become so-called subcontractors.
[00:17:10] Exactly, that's it, and that's a very big concern from our point of view, that there's
[00:17:14] no guarantee today. We have also proposed that
[00:17:18] there be some kind of protection mechanisms for this, or that
[00:17:21] some resources be planned as a reserve, that would be meant
[00:17:24] specifically for these people, but but today, we actually still have
[00:17:28] discussions ongoing, and we also have meetings at the ministry today, so
[00:17:31] we'll see what comes out of that, and if there could also
[00:17:34] be more people in need with this reform? Then the question still
[00:17:38] arises, do we have these specialists
[00:17:40] then? Yes, that could also be a justified question, that on the one
[00:17:44] hand, we are opening the door to more people, on the other hand, we
[00:17:48] assume in the bill or explanatory memorandum that some
[00:17:51] people who are currently in the system might not
[00:17:55] need it, and that the total amount might remain the same or increase
[00:17:58] slightly, but yes, I agree with
[00:18:01] general practitioners that there is such a positive view
[00:18:05] of the numbers, which we, which we look at perhaps with... skepticism.
[00:18:09] Financial savings, well, politicians usually always say we save money with reforms,
[00:18:12] you know, I have a feeling that with this reform, they don't even say
[00:18:16] that we are saving money, they even show a small increase
[00:18:20] in this matter, but if we think like this, that, uh,
[00:18:24] through the Social Insurance Board in today's
[00:18:27] system, the price of a physiotherapist is one third, in broad
[00:18:31] terms, of what it is at the Health Insurance Fund's price, right? Then these
[00:18:34] prices will increase according to the Health Insurance Fund's price list, meaning
[00:18:37] that basically, if today three people received this
[00:18:41] physiotherapy, then in the future, only one will, right? Uh, which is, well,
[00:18:45] again, it depends on which side you look at it from, from the service provider's perspective, it's reasonable, right,
[00:18:48] that a fair price is paid to the person who provides
[00:18:52] that physiotherapy, but then again, two people might not receive
[00:18:56] that service. That also means, I understand, right, that the whole
[00:19:00] thing goes under the Health Insurance Fund and its price list, and it will
[00:19:04] be more expensive, yes, yes, yes,
[00:19:15] so from healthcare, social services, some from local government, then actually
[00:19:19] it would suit us very well if this unified system emerges,
[00:19:22] wherever it will be exactly located,
[00:19:26] but it also has to work well both on paper and
[00:19:29] in reality, and these prices can also differ in the sense that, well,
[00:19:33] if it's an educational special need or some other thing,
[00:19:36] then, well... I don't know, a psychologist's or speech therapist's service can also be
[00:19:40] at a different price? Uh, currently, it's simply that, uh,
[00:19:43] the state pays one price through the Social Insurance Board
[00:19:47] and another price through the Health Insurance Fund. And this naturally creates
[00:19:51] tensions in service provision, that whose contract partner you
[00:19:54] primarily want to be or whose order you want to fulfill, well, of course, from where you
[00:19:58] get a better price. And actually, now the different
[00:20:02] organizations that have all made these appeals, you want
[00:20:06] the second reading in the Riigikogu to be suspended and for the substantive side
[00:20:10] of this reform to be reviewed, well, broadly speaking, that the second reading be postponed
[00:20:14] to that stage, where all
[00:20:16] the problem areas that different organizations have highlighted
[00:20:20] are resolved, so that this reform would truly be a reform
[00:20:24] that looks at the person, where there are no
[00:20:27] unreasonable expenses, unreasonable
[00:20:29] time consumption on the part of any party, so that it would really
[00:20:32] be something from which everyone would benefit. Well, the ministry
[00:20:35] might ask, where have you been all this time? Constantly in discussions
[00:20:39] with them, so they certainly can't ask us,
[00:20:43] that, uh, we are not coming here for the first time to television or the Riigikogu to talk about problems,
[00:20:46] on the contrary, we have always been actively involved, so that..." "raised the same issues
[00:20:50] and even expressed opinions when not asked, mm-hmm,
[00:20:54] then I would like to ask, why
[00:20:58] have these opinions and these suggestions not been taken into account at all, so that you are
[00:21:01] still in a position where you have to raise your voice loudly again,
[00:21:05] yes, that's how it is and that's how it has
[00:21:08] actually often been with various involvements, right, on the one hand, the art of so-called
[00:21:12] compromise, on the other hand, it's also that you can't
[00:21:15] reform if you don't actually necessarily make things
[00:21:18] better, so that..." "We see that there are places where, with a little tweaking,
[00:21:22] things would definitely improve, mm-hmm, and we want a good thing, actually, well,
[00:21:26] always, exactly, thank you for coming this morning, don't lose
[00:21:44] it's seven in the morning and the incessant deer concert
[00:21:47] has lasted all night, that..." "What was done in the pitch-dark
[00:21:51] forest, only the deer themselves know, but this
[00:21:54] concert continues with the same intensity in the
[00:21:57] morning.
[00:22:05] Leo, I'm really surprised by the energy with which they do it all
[00:22:09] night, how long does this concert last anyway?
[00:22:12] Well, the rutting season lasts about a month to
[00:22:15] a month and a half, depending on the weather,
[00:22:18] that, uh, they expend a tremendous amount of energy, those bulls. Do you
[00:22:22] ever see them fighting, have you
[00:22:25] seen them actually engage in physical
[00:22:28] combat? Yes, yes, and this fighting is
[00:22:32] very common, and in that sense, if you observe their activities for a longer
[00:22:35] period, these fighting moments occur every
[00:22:38] uh 10 to 15 minutes,
[00:22:42] so, but the structure of deer antlers
[00:22:45] is such that they shouldn't injure themselves when fighting. Does a new
[00:22:49] male sometimes get a harem and the old
[00:22:52] one has to retreat? Well, that time
[00:22:56] inevitably comes for all the older alpha
[00:23:00] males, and these guys are definitely broken
[00:23:03] men, that when they lose to the younger generation, they
[00:23:07] sulk in the corner of the field at some point and
[00:23:10] fade away.
[00:23:22] guest, Kristo Juhanson from the Defence Resources Agency, to talk about this,
[00:23:26] hello, uh, that right now is the time when
[00:23:29] the health of conscripts is being checked and our
[00:23:32] conversation is prompted by the
[00:23:34] investigative work of Õhtuleht,
[00:23:36] that famous rally driver Paul Aron has
[00:23:39] avoided a medical examination and even received a
[00:23:43] fine, which was paid, uh
[00:23:46] Krista, why are conscripts... "which
[00:23:50] conscripts are being checked now and what are
[00:23:54] you checking?" Good morning, well,
[00:23:57] we check the health of recruits before
[00:24:01] starting military service and
[00:24:04] we invite them throughout the year to
[00:24:07] health assessments and I am very happy that many young people are
[00:24:10] aware, they are health- conscious, they want to come
[00:24:13] to the health assessment themselves and also
[00:24:17] book an appointment for it themselves. So what do you check?".
[00:24:21] Uh, I might explain this health assessment a little
[00:24:24] bit more, we have made it as convenient
[00:24:28] and time-saving for the young person as possible, first
[00:24:31] of all, the doctor assesses the young person's
[00:24:33] health based on the data available
[00:24:37] in the health portal and if the doctor can now decide based
[00:24:41] on the data that the young person does not meet health requirements
[00:24:45] or temporarily does not meet health requirements, he can make that decision
[00:24:48] immediately. "without having to call the young person
[00:24:52] for an on-site examination, if the young person
[00:24:55] comes to the health assessment
[00:24:59] on-site, then they will meet our three
[00:25:02] doctors, they will definitely meet a psychiatrist,
[00:25:06] another doctor assesses general health and
[00:25:09] the third doctor is either an orthopedist or
[00:25:13] a surgeon and the whole health assessment
[00:25:17] process takes some time." and
[00:25:21] if additional examinations are needed, then
[00:25:24] those must also be completed. So, if your health is fine, then the next day
[00:25:27] you're in the army? Yes, I will also
[00:25:31] explain that there is a slight misconception that when a young person
[00:25:34] comes for a health assessment, then a decision about their military
[00:25:37] service is made immediately, that is not how it is,
[00:25:41] the health assessment, as the name suggests,
[00:25:44] during which we only assess health and everything that
[00:25:47] concerns the assignment to military service, that... is now
[00:25:50] the next stage after some time, so for that, our
[00:25:54] military service planner will contact the young person and agree
[00:25:57] on the details of starting military service. What is
[00:26:00] the health of young Estonian men?
[00:26:03] "If we look at our data, then
[00:26:06] at the health assessment, approximately
[00:26:09] half of young people meet health
[00:26:11] requirements. Now the remaining quarter temporarily do not meet
[00:26:15] health requirements, this means, well, they have
[00:26:18] a bad mood or, uh, I don't know, what
[00:26:22] temporarily, this means that they get an extension to treat a health
[00:26:25] problem, as these health problems can be varied and the last quarter
[00:26:29] are those who do not meet health requirements. Permanently,
[00:26:33] permanently, has this changed over time? Half
[00:26:36] are, uh, fit for the army, so to speak, that's a pretty
[00:26:40] small number, so what does that show, that
[00:26:43] those who do not meet health requirements, that
[00:26:47] they mostly have either behavioral or
[00:26:50] mental disorders or musculoskeletal
[00:26:52] diseases, so these are the main
[00:26:56] diagnoses. So,
[00:26:59] you get a call, come to the medical commission. Uh, to the medical
[00:27:03] commission, I might be using such Soviet-era
[00:27:07] expressions, I remember when we went to the polyclinic for adolescents
[00:27:10] for a check-up and then to the next place
[00:27:14] where, uh, people went to the army. Uh, you get a call
[00:27:17] and you don't come, how can
[00:27:21] would actually prefer a situation where we don't have to force
[00:27:24] young people at all, but that young people come voluntarily for a health
[00:27:28] assessment. If a young person doesn't come and doesn't show up, then
[00:27:31] of course... "we contact the young person, try to explain to them
[00:27:34] that this is a legal obligation
[00:27:38] and give them the opportunity to come next time.
[00:27:41] However, if we see that this pattern is
[00:27:44] recurring and the young person continuously ignores their legal
[00:27:48] obligation to appear for a health assessment. Yes, indeed,
[00:27:51] then we issue a precept with a fine
[00:27:54] warning. How large is the fine? The maximum fine
[00:27:57] is 640 euros, but even here we always
[00:28:01] weigh. Uh, the circumstances
[00:28:04] of each case and we do not immediately set
[00:28:08] the maximum amount, e.g. what interesting or what
[00:28:11] justified these refusals are, why
[00:28:15] can't they come on time? Yes, predominantly, the problem
[00:28:19] is either that they are abroad or that
[00:28:22] they are ill, but
[00:28:25] the reason must still be compelling, because if we are talking
[00:28:28] about being abroad, then generally it is possible
[00:28:31] to... series, because for the health assessment we
[00:28:35] send out the invitation at least a month in advance, so
[00:28:38] the young person can plan their time, but it is completely
[00:28:41] understandable that unforeseen situations can happen to all of us,
[00:28:45] so my appeal here is that if
[00:28:48] a young person cannot come for the health assessment,
[00:28:52] please contact us and we will find a new
[00:28:56] opportunity to participate in the assessment together, so don't
[00:28:59] let it get out of hand. I understand that not every time is the fine
[00:29:04] more effective, or do I understand that the famous
[00:29:07] rally young man almost had his driving license
[00:29:11] revoked, so he couldn't drive a car on city streets,
[00:29:14] what are the other coercive measures that you
[00:29:17] use? Yes, I won't talk about that specific recruit
[00:29:21] now, but if we see that even the fine, which is also
[00:29:24] a persuasive measure, does not yield the desired
[00:29:28] result and the young person continues to ignore the obligation,
[00:29:31] yes, indeed. Then we also have the right to
[00:29:35] suspend the right to rights, for example to suspend driving
[00:29:39] rights, but I still want to say that our
[00:29:43] goal is not to punish, but our goal
[00:29:46] is still to support the young person in fulfilling
[00:29:49] their obligation. I understand that this year you have made as many as 57
[00:29:53] applications for the suspension of driving licenses and it goes through the
[00:29:56] court, right, but what if a person is at the peak
[00:30:00] of their career right now as a young person, uh. I don't know, a good
[00:30:03] cellist or ballet dancer or rally boy,
[00:30:07] that, uh, do you give extensions
[00:30:11] also for non-health reasons, but so that the career is not
[00:30:14] interrupted? Well, such an extension is not really foreseen,
[00:30:17] however, my appeal to young people is
[00:30:21] that the sooner you start planning military
[00:30:23] service and we are, uh, with our
[00:30:27] office in
[00:30:29] dialogue, the better it is for us too... "or the easier it is
[00:30:33] also possible, the easier it is for us to also schedule
[00:30:36] that military service, so of course, if we can meet, then
[00:30:40] we take the circumstances into account and find a
[00:30:43] solution together and then we also try to schedule
[00:30:47] that military service or also health assessment, but there are no
[00:30:50] such things in Estonia, that, I don't know, uh, a respected musician
[00:30:53] who has delicate fingers, so they would rather not
[00:30:57] go, uh, to the army, because uh, then..."