ERR — broadcast 20261102 080000 UTC 422 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:26] is November 2nd and All Souls' Day, so we will talk about that this morning. [00:00:31] measuring this new value or how we "Where does this belief come from, how is it done so that [00:00:34] the little souls would come home and whether it is desired that all souls come to their [00:00:37] home and how to notice that they have been home, we will talk about this background [00:00:41] this morning and we will talk about Men's Health Month, because [00:00:45] November is Men's Health Month, November, [00:00:48] Movember, yes, men, you have to think about this [00:00:51] from any angle, but you have to [00:00:53] and I think and not just think, but also act. Today we will talk about [00:00:56] prostate cancer, but not about what is always talked about." [00:01:00] go get checked, think about your age, all [00:01:03] predispositions, think about everything, but we'll talk about what happens when a person receives [00:01:07] a diagnosis, how life goes on, what kind of support [00:01:11] that person gets, and so on, so life after diagnosis could be [00:01:14] our focus topic today, but it is important in any case, [00:01:18] any aspect of men's health, [00:01:37] The global UI consulting firm's [00:01:41] survey shows what? It shows that AI definitely increases productivity [00:01:44] in many cases, but does this [00:01:47] productivity translate into financial results or not [00:01:51] and what does it depend on? I would like to know more about this. Yes, do companies and entrepreneurs get richer? [00:01:54] And we can ask Mart Mäe about this, because the study actually shows [00:01:58] quite interesting trends. Good morning, Mart, good [00:02:02] morning, so what does it show? That productivity, not [00:02:05] versus then, but productivity and with that financial results and [00:02:09] AI at the center of all this. What can we say [00:02:11] most simply about the survey results? Basically, the survey says [00:02:15] that AI theoretically increases our [00:02:18] productivity, but if we start looking at the results, [00:02:21] then actually it doesn't seem that this productivity growth is anywhere [00:02:25] to be found, which raises several [00:02:28] questions as to why this is the case. It's as if expenses [00:02:31] have been made, activities are [00:02:34] done with AI, but the result is not yet [00:02:37] achieved. And what is the reason for this? We see that the work of many employees [00:02:41] is done faster, the opportunities of AI, [00:02:45] as if the company knows how to utilize them, but what is the [00:02:48] "but" moment here then? Well, [00:02:51] let's say, I'll give an example, let's say that a job that took six [00:02:54] hours is done in four, and two, two hours [00:02:58] are supposedly saved, but those two hours are not... in turn, for some [00:03:02] additional activity, so that we do something more, something better, meaning [00:03:05] that we don't apply that time to do something more, [00:03:09] better, more expensively, cheaper, whatever we do with it, that [00:03:12] doesn't actually happen today, and that's the problem, that you supposedly save two [00:03:16] euros, if you don't do anything smart with it, then it doesn't actually do anything [00:03:19] for you. But what should companies do then, because this is the [00:03:23] key point, how to make the time saved by AI [00:03:27] genuinely work for the company, yes? Yes, [00:03:30] basically, the thing that stops it is that individual [00:03:33] tasks are done, a little bit here, a little [00:03:37] bit there, but there is no systematic approach. This means that if we [00:03:40] look at the entire process, whatever [00:03:43] the company does, if we look at the whole, if we think about what is the [00:03:47] new and better way to do these things and how we apply AI [00:03:50] there, generally that's where it stops, because [00:03:54] it's just, again, I said that we do elements here and [00:03:58] there, but we don't actually change the whole, so then the benefit [00:04:01] remains very, very small and often, as you said, it doesn't actually [00:04:05] translate into financial results, and this is not only an Estonian problem, it's actually the same problem [00:04:09] globally. How many companies have already understood this formula [00:04:12] and have reorganized their work processes and this is actually [00:04:16] reflected in the financial results? Does this somehow emerge from the study, that there are also those who [00:04:20] have actually still clearly benefited financially from all this? [00:04:23] Yes, of course, [00:04:26] there are definitely fewer of them than more, but [00:04:30] there are such companies, and those who specifically take the approach that [00:04:34] we don't hold on to anything old, we think about what is the new and better way to do things, we know what our [00:04:38] goal is, how would we then do it differently, so that [00:04:41] we can free ourselves from the old baggage, so to speak, and think [00:04:44] freely about a new way of doing things, [00:04:49] and I right? Well, that's easy to say, often it's very difficult, but from the employee's [00:04:53] perspective, what is the situation now? We talked about work that [00:04:57] can be done in four hours instead of six. [00:05:01] The employee definitely benefits from this, but fears arise, [00:05:04] uncertainty arises, and perhaps a job is lost, exactly, [00:05:07] so that's also another reason why we [00:05:11] look at the survey, that actually if [00:05:15] an employee fears for their future, [00:05:18] then the company probably won't see or [00:05:21] get any benefit from using AI, because why should they do it? Because if [00:05:25] they do something very well, then the result is that their [00:05:29] so-called result, which is measured in time, their time [00:05:33] usage decreases, but the work remains the same, because as we said before, [00:05:36] nothing new is added, we don't know how to measure this new thing, we are [00:05:40] used to measuring time, that if we start... [00:05:44] offer our service differently or make a product, then [00:05:47] then value arises from that, right? As long as that is not there, then [00:05:51] it can happen that the employee is punished, and if they don't trust their organization [00:05:55] in that regard, that yes, I believe that if I make this thing [00:05:59] better, then we all benefit, so if that trust isn't there, then obviously [00:06:03] they won't start doing it, right? Well, it sounds like there are a lot of such situations now, that [00:06:06] an employee understands that something can be done in three [00:06:10] hours instead of six, but what does that mean for me? [00:06:12] The moment you start thinking about it, but then it's the employer's place to [00:06:16] intervene and completely rethink the employee [00:06:19] evaluation and valuation system differently, not to say [00:06:23] goodbye to the employee, but to think about what they can do with that newfound [00:06:26] three hours, exactly, exactly, [00:06:29] so this is about building a layer of trust, if we think [00:06:33] about the digital state as a whole, why is our digital state so successful? Because we trust [00:06:37] the state, yes, that's what now needs to happen in parallel, to trust your [00:06:41] organization. That indeed, if we do things better, [00:06:44] do things differently, then it will get better for everyone, not that [00:06:48] my job just disappears after that, right? That's not the good [00:06:51] way to do it, right? Last week's big [00:06:55] layoff news, they kept coming, there were many of them, they [00:06:58] caused a lot of fear in many people. How do these [00:07:01] layoff announcements align with your research or not? [00:07:05] That, well, companies have still seen that AI does people's work [00:07:08] and we no longer need these people in this position. So should [00:07:12] employers actually think differently, wait, wait, let's not [00:07:16] lay off, but put these people to work for the company in a different way, or [00:07:19] have these entrepreneurs understood that they simply don't need [00:07:22] these people? Let's say that in the internal [00:07:25] affairs of every company, there are so many nuances that I can't say exactly about specific examples, [00:07:29] but what I can say in general trend is that [00:07:33] AI has made the competitive situation much [00:07:36] faster. This means that you have to react very, very quickly, [00:07:39] that probably some options that were [00:07:43] suitable at that moment, whether you always have to [00:07:46] lay people off, I would say that probably at some point there is no exclusion, [00:07:50] there is no other way, but this is not the only way, that's the thing, when we talk [00:07:54] about restructuring work, then [00:07:57] if our work changes, it doesn't always mean that the [00:08:00] role disappears, but again, it's not excluded, that [00:08:04] of course part of it is also that we actually [00:08:07] might not need certain roles, we don't know how to use it differently, but at the same time, there might be [00:08:11] other organizations that need them, right? Well, in a specific organization, it's no longer needed, [00:08:15] right? But for the employee, the current knowledge, which is also based on your research, [00:08:18] is important, that the ability to retrain, to adapt, it's [00:08:22] super important, if the company allows it at all, to seize [00:08:25] those opportunities, so that you don't have to lose your job, but maybe [00:08:29] an application will be found for you, well, so that you can be useful to your company [00:08:32] in a completely different way, exactly, and well, if I thought that if a manager came and said, [00:08:36] "You know, we're making a big change, we're going to start using AI," then as an [00:08:40] employee, I would think about that as an opportunity to learn [00:08:43] how to work in a new way, how to do things the way [00:08:47] I actually want to, and if you gain that experience, [00:08:50] then basically you have a very unique experience also in a global [00:08:53] sense, that we actually completely redid all our processes, because [00:08:57] there are still very few people today who are willing [00:09:01] to do that, who have experienced such a process where we simply [00:09:05] replace our processes with AI, so that's actually a very unique experience, [00:09:08] so I would rather recommend going along with it and [00:09:11] gaining a unique experience. What could the coming years bring, [00:09:15] is there reason to believe that, well, what you have talked about [00:09:19] at length today, that it will be understood more and more and [00:09:23] at some point this increased productivity, that it will actually be reflected in [00:09:26] financial results? Well, let's say these so-called [00:09:30] small factors are already visible today, that [00:09:34] both in Estonia and globally, that [00:09:37] there may have been a weariness with this so-called, I call it playing with AI, that [00:09:41] one wants to get the real thing, so that [00:09:44] this trend is already visible, that people want to get the [00:09:48] real benefit, meaning that's the thinking, how do we really implement [00:09:51] it as a whole in the organization, not that everyone tinkers a little [00:09:55] in their corner, that's already visible, I would say that rather it's already [00:09:58] today, let's say we are already stepping on the path that will lead us to this result, so [00:10:02] that this predicting is a yearly [00:10:05] task like this, let's say I would say that in 12 months [00:10:09] we will definitely see something different. [00:10:12] "We see difficulties, but we also see the first victories. Mart, thank you [00:10:16] for this overview and a very interesting, slightly different view on how [00:10:20] artificial intelligence is used in companies or is not actually [00:10:23] used yet. Thank you. [00:10:26] Tonight, of course, there is Osoon, because it's Monday and [00:10:29] Osoon talks about mosquitoes. West Nile virus is [00:10:33] a potentially very dangerous disease, [00:10:36] has claimed many lives even in Europe. Last year, [00:10:39] scientists discovered for the first time a mosquito carrying this virus [00:10:43] in Estonia. Have our mosquitoes become much more dangerous than they were [00:10:47] before? Osoon will investigate that tonight. [00:10:49] "Mosquito bites are usually just [00:10:56] an annoying few-minute [00:10:59] itch for us, but for veterinarians and scientists, these same [00:11:02] tiny pests have become a worrying [00:11:06] research subject, because through mosquitoes, new [00:11:10] dangerous parasites and also diseases can reach [00:11:14] our pets and eventually [00:11:16] humans. [00:11:19] So, Maare, what are you doing here? We're going to put up mosquito traps, [00:11:22] but then the question arises, why would [00:11:26] you want to go in there, and for that, we have a whole bunch of dry ice with us. [00:11:29] Ah, such a secret, aha, so they [00:11:33] like it? They like it, when the dry ice melts, then [00:11:37] actually quite a lot of CO2 is released from it, [00:11:40] exactly, and CO2 is what attracts, because [00:11:44] when we [00:11:46] sweat, mosquitoes also come to us, right? Exactly, [00:11:50] so this is the component we use to attract [00:11:53] these singing mosquitoes. [00:11:56] Scientists are focusing on disease agents [00:11:59] associated with mosquitoes. In Estonia, parasites [00:12:02] that primarily affect dogs are found, which can [00:12:05] rarely infect humans. In addition to [00:12:09] parasites, the West Nile virus has recently [00:12:12] come into the focus of scientists, which has already claimed [00:12:15] 141 lives in Europe [00:12:17] this year. [00:12:25] All Souls' Day today and the season of souls has begun with November, and [00:12:28] Einike Sooveli is also here. Good morning. Good morning. Well, Einike, you know these customs and [00:12:32] traditions, that nowadays it's [00:12:35] such a lovely thing that people still put a little candle [00:12:38] on November 2nd, right, or a little lamp either on the window sill or just [00:12:42] in the room, and perhaps they don't even think about the deeper meaning, but [00:12:45] it's just so lovely to be, mhm, and it's also such a [00:12:49] simple thing, right? Is the burning of candles, keeping the light [00:12:53] in the house during the time of souls, an old tradition? [00:12:56] I think that, well, the fact that we put a candle on the window sill, [00:13:00] that's actually not a very old tradition, but [00:13:03] still, for Estonians, the candle and the candle [00:13:07] flame and fire have always had a very significant [00:13:10] meaning. For example, when a child was born, then for three nights and days a [00:13:14] candle was kept with him so that the devil would not [00:13:17] exchange that child for his horned one, so that [00:13:20] fire has always been something that brings good, candles are [00:13:24] burned at weddings and at Christmas, so I think that [00:13:28] perhaps in the olden days, a lantern was placed on the window sill [00:13:31] with a candle, but the fact that it's specifically [00:13:34] on the window sill, say on a saucer or in a candlestick, that's more [00:13:38] of a 20th-century custom, mhm, a beautiful custom, in any [00:13:41] case. Once a little girl asked me how they remember where to [00:13:45] come, these spirits, that whether spirits exist or not, that wasn't the question at all, [00:13:48] but how they remember where their home is and if they've moved, do they [00:13:52] go to the wrong home? No, certainly not, because I [00:13:56] think that spirits are so closely connected to us, because if there [00:14:00] were no predecessors, there would be no us, at least not in the form we are in [00:14:03] now, and that's why it's sometimes sensible to perhaps think, where did I get [00:14:07] some characteristic or appearance [00:14:10] from, that it might have come from [00:14:14] far away, and it's just nice to think that I'm not [00:14:17] alone in this world, but that I have such a long [00:14:21] history. When my child was little, she was a bit scared of this soul [00:14:27] day, I told her to definitely leave the candle burning, extinguish the fire in between and think calmly. She found [00:14:31] it a bit scary, I thought there's nothing scary about it, those who come [00:14:34] to us, whom we think of, whom we want to come, they definitely want [00:14:38] only good for us, why would our ancestors want their descendants [00:14:41] to fare badly, certainly not, and then in the old days it was even [00:14:45] believed that they should be called by name, that usually the master of the house, [00:14:49] when food was left on the table, [00:14:51] then he would start calling, "come now, [00:14:55] you and you and you," and then they would indeed come by name, not like, "great-grandmother" [00:14:59] or old wife, because truly very [00:15:03] distant ancestors might not have been known by name, yes, but you simply [00:15:06] couldn't let every spirit in, because there were also spirits, for example, the spirit of a murderer [00:15:10] or those who wandered around, whom the mummers later [00:15:14] scared away, so there were restless spirits who hadn't made it [00:15:17] to either side, meaning not to [00:15:21] the evil ones nor to, well, how much Estonians [00:15:24] believed in God. But that they hadn't made it to the afterlife, and [00:15:27] that's why they wandered around, and you weren't allowed to let them in, but then [00:15:31] you had to say immediately, "don't you come," or [00:15:33] you had to name them by name, and well, the most terrifying were [00:15:37] the hanged, who also desperately wanted to get somewhere warm, and, but they weren't [00:15:41] allowed in, because it was still the greatest sin to kill yourself, no matter how [00:15:45] hard life is, but this is a tradition whose roots extend, who knows [00:15:48] where, right, that we actually can't trace it with our finger, [00:15:52] that's where it probably starts. All Souls' Day has been celebrated in Estonia [00:15:55] since the 14th century, or this time of souls, because now we say that it's [00:15:59] November 2nd, but actually it used to start already [00:16:02] on Michaelmas, and then according to different sources, it could then end at [00:16:05] Christmas or after Martinmas, like. "this entire dark time, when Estonians were already [00:16:09] in their threshing barns, telling fairy tales [00:16:12] to children, sitting, thinking about the past, [00:16:15] thinking about the future, it was such a peaceful time, and then it was believed that [00:16:19] it was good for souls to move around if there was no noise, that on All Souls' Day you really shouldn't [00:16:23] make any noise, silence and peace. Was [00:16:26] food left on the table, or was it placed, taken to the sauna [00:16:30] or where was it placed, or just like that in the middle of the kitchen? In some places it is described that [00:16:34] the food was left in the sauna, but generally from the sauna, it was definitely necessary to leave [00:16:37] one sauna whisk, a piece of soap and warm water [00:16:41] for sure, and then one could leave food on the table [00:16:44] in the room, and to find out if the souls had indeed visited, because children [00:16:48] really wanted to know if they had visited, then usually some [00:16:51] flour was sprinkled on the table or then ash [00:16:55] somewhere, so that it would be visible whether the footprints were there or [00:16:58] not, and then, well, I don't know who else went there to do them, well, [00:17:02] I don't know, maybe some family member then [00:17:05] bit a piece of turnip or something, [00:17:09] but, well, I think that if one really wants to believe something, then [00:17:13] then it is so, that they probably indeed saw that something had been [00:17:16] eaten, if one believed in a kratt, then why couldn't a soul come home and [00:17:19] eat this food? And rather it was such a bright and light belief, not that [00:17:23] it's a bit scary or something, no, I think the ancient Estonians didn't [00:17:27] think there was anything scary about that time, because these were still their [00:17:30] close people and they wanted good for them and it was believed that if [00:17:34] the deceased longed for anything, it was [00:17:37] the sauna and good food and being home, that home was still [00:17:41] such a sacred place and I think that rather [00:17:44] yes, there was such brightness and gratitude in the soul, [00:17:48] that thanks to you I exist and thank you for that. Was [00:17:52] there also some kind of warding off or warding magic, that if somehow the murderer's, I don't know, [00:17:56] ancestress or ancestor tries to come, then well, some kind of sign, [00:17:59] I don't know, on the door scares them away or well, I know that on Martinmas [00:18:03] there was a lot of noise precisely to drive them away, but [00:18:07] directly, well, I can't say if there was any, well, there were anyway [00:18:11] crosses and circles on all doors and all sorts of protective signs were everywhere [00:18:15] to ensure that no evil person would come in, [00:18:18] and then what has disappeared on All Souls' Day are the soul beggars, in the olden days [00:18:22] there were actually soul beggars also similar to Marti and Kadri, yes, but they [00:18:25] were dressed in white, usually then [00:18:28] women, and sang in such a mournful voice, that you see [00:18:32] we came here to you and give us now something to eat, [00:18:35] and then there is even a recorded old song, where it is [00:18:38] sung that come, that [00:18:42] we can get out of the graveyard and then go to our loved ones and [00:18:45] then at 12 o'clock we must definitely be back, because [00:18:48] the bell calls us back to the graveyard. How [00:18:52] much of this is a mixture of ancient beliefs and traditions [00:18:55] and Catholic Christian traditions? [00:18:58] They are all intertwined, well, Catholic [00:19:01] Catholic faith says that it's All Saints' Night [00:19:04] and then, like... also [00:19:07] specifically rather one day, but for the old Estonians, actually the entire [00:19:11] dark time was the time for spirits to come home, but at the same time there are, well [00:19:15] a lot of them, we can't say pagan, but ancient [00:19:19] customs, that later they were then somehow integrated or, well, [00:19:22] adapted to Christianity, so that they would be such that people wouldn't have to give up [00:19:26] old beliefs, but that if Christ was added, then [00:19:29] people accepted it faster, simply. But the fact that we [00:19:33] now light one small candle is actually nice, perhaps then [00:19:36] to challenge our memory a little, why we do this, that we look, oh, see, the [00:19:40] neighbors have put one, I'll put one too, but what exactly is it? Well, it's cozy and nice anyway, right? [00:19:44] Yeah, very, very, thank you for coming this morning and [00:19:48] today is All Souls' Day, [00:24:20] Good morning, it's eight o'clock and the news continues. [00:24:23] In Narva, the C1 level Estonian language [00:24:27] was successfully passed by only almost 15% of participants. [00:24:30] Across Estonia, the corresponding figure was nearly 30%. [00:24:34] According to language teachers, the lack of an Estonian-speaking to achieve a high level. [00:24:37] communication environment, the difficulty [00:24:40] of the exam, and the lack of suitable study materials make it difficult [00:24:43] C1 level requires, in addition to good language skills, the ability to discuss [00:24:47] complex topics and one's views. According to the Ministry of Education [00:24:51] and Youth Affairs, a pass rate of about [00:24:54] 30% for the advanced level exam is normal. However, students [00:24:58] from Narva often have to find opportunities to practice Estonian [00:25:01] daily themselves. More can be read on the [00:25:03] portal. [00:25:06] As of today, due to the Rail Baltica infrastructure works in Tallinn, the [00:25:10] timetable for passenger trains in the eastern and southern directions will change. The travel times for the [00:25:13] Aegviidu-Tapa and Narva lines will be shortened, Narva journeys [00:25:16] will be shortened by an average of 20 minutes, and [00:25:20] Aegviidu and Tapa journeys will be five minutes faster, Elron announced. [00:25:23] Infrastructure works will also end on the Tartu-Valga [00:25:26] section, meaning that the last journeys of the day can again be served [00:25:30] by train instead of bus. Infrastructure works starting at [00:25:33] Ülemiste station will also bring changes to timetables in the eastern [00:25:37] and southern directions. The biggest change concerns the evening train from Tallinn [00:25:40] to Aegviidu, which will depart 35 minutes later [00:25:44] than before, i.e., at a quarter past five. Passengers on the Tallinn-Narva line [00:25:48] are asked to note that in the morning, the first journeys of the day in both [00:25:51] directions will depart earlier than before, and the late-night [00:25:55] Narva-Tallinn express train will depart 24 minutes [00:25:58] earlier. But let's continue with foreign topics. [00:26:02] Before the US mid-term elections, polls indicate a possible change [00:26:05] in voter preferences, said US political analyst Lauri [00:26:08] Almann on television. If we look at the [00:26:11] poll results, [00:26:14] which can also be erroneous, then let's say this [00:26:17] leaning towards Democrats in various places, as was just [00:26:21] said earlier, also in those states where Republicans [00:26:25] have usually been in a very good [00:26:28] position, in those states where Donald Trump, for example, has won, [00:26:32] not by five, six, seven percent, but by [00:26:35] 10, 12, 17 [00:26:38] percent. Uh, so in those places, the [00:26:41] poll results tend to lean towards Democrats [00:26:44] now, and and [00:26:48] actually, a certain nervousness is also shown by how, for example, President Donald Trump's [00:26:52] visits and speeches during [00:26:55] this campaign have been planned. He has visited states [00:26:58] that a Republican [00:27:03] president would usually not visit. [00:27:06] The reigning Bulgarian President Iliana Yotova declared herself the [00:27:09] winner of the Bulgarian presidential elections. According to preliminary [00:27:12] election results, she, who supports starting a dialogue with Russia [00:27:16] and ending military support for Ukraine, received [00:27:19] 58% of the voters' votes. Her rival, [00:27:23] the pro-European Andrei Kyurov, had to settle for about 38 [00:27:26] percent. Vice President Yotova became president this [00:27:30] spring when the previous president, Radev, stepped down. If [00:27:34] the election results are officially confirmed, Yotova will become [00:27:37] Bulgaria's first president to take office with [00:27:40] an election victory. [00:27:42] We spoke with Bulgarian citizens about what is on [00:27:46] their minds every day. [00:27:48] We talked about incomes, we talked about [00:27:52] peace, we talked about challenges. [00:27:55] And today they understood our message. Many [00:27:59] challenges lie ahead, tough [00:28:02] times. It is important to [00:28:05] say here that at the end of this campaign, we, [00:28:08] as a society, as citizens, [00:28:11] should seek unity, rather than [00:28:15] division. It was divisive [00:28:17] enough. [00:28:22] Australian police significantly strengthened security at Sydney's [00:28:25] most famous beach, Bondi Beach, where a bloody anti-Jewish [00:28:29] terrorist attack was carried out last December. To prevent new [00:28:32] similar attacks as the anniversary of the attack approaches, [00:28:36] 250 fully equipped police officers [00:28:39] now patrol the beach. Police chiefs confirm that sending [00:28:43] police officers in full combat gear to the beach will not be the [00:28:46] only security measure. Two men opened fire last December at a Jewish [00:28:50] religious holiday celebration, killing 15 [00:28:53] people. According to the shooters, they were inspired to commit the crime [00:28:56] by the activities of the extremist [00:28:58] organization Islamic State. But let's return home and talk [00:29:01] about the weather. Today the weather is cloudy with clearings and it will rain [00:29:05] in many places, with a predominantly southerly wind of 1.6 meters [00:29:08] per second, on the coast a south-westerly and southerly wind of 3-9, [00:29:12] with gusts up to 12 meters per second, in the evening the [00:29:15] wind will turn to the northwest and north in the islands and on the northwest coast, [00:29:19] the air temperature today will remain between six [00:29:22] and 10 degrees Celsius. We meet again at 8:30, [00:29:26] have a nice [00:29:26] continuation of the morning. [00:30:50] about creative therapies, for example, art therapy exists, then there is [00:30:53] movement therapy, then what else, there is music therapy [00:30:57] for sure, which in which situation is best?"