ERR — broadcast 20261102 203000 UTC 375 transcript segments Google Speech-to-Text API Automatic Transcription (Chirp) Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] to be [00:00:00] convicted [00:00:06] in the face [00:00:06] of [00:00:06] of the street protests, the extradition bill was [00:00:09] suspended, but the movement showed no sign of losing [00:00:14] of momentum. five years after the failure [00:00:17] of the umbrella movement, [00:00:19] a hong kongers were once again demanding universal [00:00:21] sufferage. Joshua Wang's [00:00:25] charisma and ideas continued to inspire the [00:00:27] movement. At just... 43 years old, he had become [00:00:31] one [00:00:31] of the leading figures of Hong Kong's pro-democracy movement. [00:00:35] At the time he shared his concerns with me as he prepared to [00:00:39] challenge Beijing through the ballot box. Election in Hong Kong [00:00:43] is manipulated by Beijing, even they lock me up in prison, [00:00:47] censor me out from a baylot. Our determination to fight for [00:00:51] democracy would never been [00:00:53] eroded. [00:01:00] "as the authorities intensified their crackdown, part [00:01:04] of the protest movement became more [00:01:06] radical. The [00:01:09] most determined [00:01:11] a activists even stormed the parliament building, targeting the [00:01:15] symbols of power [00:01:19] of of itself. [00:01:24] In 2019, we had seven months of [00:01:27] wits, our legislative..." [00:01:30] of council building was vandalized, it was occupied, [00:01:34] university campuses were occupied, police [00:01:37] vans were set on fire, national flags were thrown [00:01:41] into the harbor, which caus lot [00:01:44] of of alarm to [00:01:47] of Beijing. Stability is the most [00:01:51] important thing, and for Hong Kong, we need stability as well, because [00:01:55] if we become unstable, we're part of China, it creates [00:01:58] instability. China. [00:02:02] Billionaire Alan Seaman moves within the circles of [00:02:06] power. A close advisor [00:02:10] to Hong Kong's chief [00:02:11] of executive, he's one [00:02:12] of the few figures still willing [00:02:14] of to speak publicly about the unrest that shook the city. [00:02:18] Between democracy and business, the property magnate [00:02:22] has made his choice. China does not [00:02:25] need western democracy, because if I look around the [00:02:28] world, United States. has problems, Canada has [00:02:31] problems, Europe, a bigger mess, UK, [00:02:35] of France, Germany, all all the countries around the [00:02:39] world that practice western democracy in this sphere does [00:02:43] not work, and that's why I became Chinese, because I [00:02:47] really think that is the future. I had to give out my Canadian [00:02:50] passport, and uh, I'm very happy, I really [00:02:54] trust China [00:02:56] wholeheartedly. [00:03:02] As 2019 drew [00:03:03] of to [00:03:03] a close, Hong Kongers were still taking to the streets 7 months after [00:03:07] the movement began, but in Beijing the response was [00:03:11] already being [00:03:12] prepared. In his [00:03:15] new [00:03:16] of year's address to the nation, the Chinese president commented publicly on [00:03:20] the situation in Hong Kong for the first time and issued a [00:03:23] warning, [00:03:26] in 近幾個月, 香港局. [00:03:30] 有 奔 历 。 心 腾 常 有 。 风 史 平 和 [00:03:34] 不 吸 浪 境 [00:03:39] 颇 [00:03:39] of 涛 [00:03:40] 大 家 胸 , 涌 的 。 也 我 们 不 惧 风 雨 , [00:03:43] 也 不 为 闲 主 [00:03:45] 。 [00:04:03] of [00:04:22] of of [00:04:26] of [00:04:37] I think that the rots had the effect of hardening [00:04:41] the Chinese government's attitude, and it led [00:04:45] directly to the imposition by Beijing [00:04:48] of national security [00:04:50] law. [00:04:55] of [00:05:20] Imagine Hong Kong is [00:05:24] scatered in your hands and the national [00:05:28] security law would be something like [00:05:31] crystal ball or locking the whole [00:05:35] city inside the crystal b and from [00:05:39] outside you see inside is it was just like normal. [00:05:43] but people from win, you will feel that you are being [00:05:46] locked with invisible frisal [00:05:48] wall. [00:05:55] in June 2020, as Hong Kong streets empted due to the [00:05:59] lockdown imposed during the COVID-19 [00:06:01] pandemic, [00:06:05] China unleashed legislative weapon on the [00:06:08] city, the National Security [00:06:11] law. [00:06:16] 赞成 [00:06:17] 163跳完了 [00:06:30] year before i was barred from entering Hong Kong, I was granted an [00:06:34] interview at the legislative council headquarters with Regina [00:06:37] IP, a former security secretary, she served as a [00:06:41] pro Beijing. maker for 17 years, [00:06:45] powerful woman and one of Hong Kong's most influential political [00:06:48] figures, she made no secret [00:06:51] of her pride at seeing the law finally [00:06:53] enacted. [00:07:00] this is the national security law adacted by the [00:07:04] national people's congress, standing committee in Beijing, they [00:07:08] enacted four offenses: secession breaking away part [00:07:12] of. subversion overthrow of [00:07:14] government, local terrorist activities and [00:07:18] collution with external forces. this law [00:07:22] was extremely effective, it brought back law and order, peace and [00:07:26] stability in Hong [00:07:27] Kong. [00:07:32] once known for its defiance and spirit of protest, Hong Kong has [00:07:36] become a city governed by restrictions and fear of [00:07:39] denunciation. these banners displayed throughout [00:07:43] the streets encourage residents to identify and report [00:07:47] suspicious [00:07:48] behavior. [00:08:32] Inness heads a pro China organization, he [00:08:35] describes himself as a man who loves Hong Kong a patriot [00:08:39] dedicated to social harmony. [00:09:19] It's a baby, natural security law, very loose, very [00:09:23] easy, nobody [00:09:27] suffers from [00:09:27] it, maybe [00:09:31] few people who are against [00:09:33] it, but majority [00:09:37] of people wins, majority people are very happy with their [00:09:40] life, and so that's why I say this is... something that the [00:09:44] western media will pick up and say, oh wow, [00:09:48] it's a non-event. [00:10:04] Samsam,我今年就24歲,我就因為國法,之後. [00:10:12] and [00:10:19] Sam collected [00:10:21] While sweets toileties to studying, send to prisoners jailed following the 2019 protests. [00:10:29] "the authorities accused him of trying to insight uprising [00:10:33] inside the prison [00:10:34] system. he was [00:10:37] convicted of subversion with the intent of overthrowing the [00:10:41] government. [00:12:25] judges to sit its highest court, for Hong [00:12:28] Kong, it's a way of demonstrating the independence and credibility of its [00:12:32] judicial system in relation to Chinese political [00:12:35] power. These judges are supposed to be the garantours [00:12:39] the rule of law. The rule of [00:12:42] law still exists in the whole [00:12:46] area of commercial law, in most criminal law, [00:12:50] it's only in cases which the Hong Kong [00:12:54] government and the Chinese government regards [00:12:58] as directly affecting its own interests that the rule of law [00:13:02] is suspended. The extreme example of that is the [00:13:06] prosecution of 47 [00:13:09] democracy [00:13:10] activists. [00:13:15] In July 2020, just days after the national security law [00:13:19] came into force, Hong Kong's democrats organized a primary [00:13:23] election to select their... candidates for the legislative council [00:13:26] elections, [00:13:30] 47 leading figures from the movement took [00:13:33] part, but when the [00:13:37] results were announced, the Hong Kong authorities disqualified [00:13:40] several the winners, notably the candidate who had received the [00:13:44] most votes, Joshua Wong. I was just [00:13:48] disqualified from running in the upcoming legislative council [00:13:52] election, the excuse they use is that I described national [00:13:55] secretary law as a dracolean law, which showed that I do [00:13:59] not support this whipping [00:14:01] law. A few months [00:14:04] later, the crackdown intensified even [00:14:07] further. [00:14:13] All 47 candidates from the primary election were arrested [00:14:16] and put on trial, accused of plotting to overthrow the [00:14:20] government. [00:14:25] After 3 years of legal proceedings, 45 them were convicted [00:14:29] and sentenced to prison terms of up to 10 [00:14:31] years. Joshua Wong received a sentence [00:14:35] of four years and eight [00:14:36] months. [00:14:40] I resigned early in June 2024 as a direct [00:14:44] result the conviction the 47 democracy [00:14:48] activists, because I felt that the outcome of that [00:14:52] case showed uh that the judiciary in [00:14:56] Hong Kong was not prepared to stand up [00:15:00] to China. Hong Kong is becoming [00:15:03] totalitarian state because political descent is no longer [00:15:06] tolerated. [00:15:18] Having brought civil society to heal and imprisoned political [00:15:21] opponents, the authorities turned their attention to another. the symbol of [00:15:25] Hong Kong's special status, the [00:15:28] press. [00:15:31] While every media outlet in Mainland China answers to [00:15:35] Beijing, Hong Kong's journalists. have always enjoyed [00:15:38] considerable freedom of expression, the [00:15:42] newspaper that best embodied this defiant press was [00:15:46] Apple [00:15:46] Daily. [00:15:50] Apple Daily is uh the most important [00:15:53] mainstream media, which was very critical to the [00:15:57] regime, they support democracy, they were [00:16:01] willing to criticize unwelcome policies [00:16:05] in Hong Kong as well as in China, I joined Apple [00:16:08] Delhi in 2018, I'm [00:16:12] surely learn how life from Hong Kong and I'm a [00:16:15] journalist, apple daily is a place where you [00:16:19] can like freely um work on [00:16:23] yourself, there's no political [00:16:26] censorship, founded in [00:16:30] 1995, Apple Daily was the brainchild of [00:16:33] billionaire entrepreneur Jimmy Lii. [00:16:39] Born in Mainland, China, he fled the communist regime as a [00:16:42] child and found refuge in Hong [00:16:44] Kong. There he built his fortune through [00:16:48] clothing brand he [00:16:49] founded. A [00:16:53] fierce opponent the Chinese government and sworn enemy the [00:16:57] authorities in Beijing, he launched his newspaper with this [00:17:00] deliberately provocative advertising [00:17:03] campaign. [00:17:11] "an apple a day keeps the lies [00:17:13] away, so [00:17:17] Jimmy Lie set up newspaper and which was strongly [00:17:21] in favor the rule of law and democracy. So [00:17:25] when the Chinese took over in [00:17:28] 97, Jamieai represented [00:17:32] all the things which vengeful authoritarian [00:17:36] would dislike, he was in favor of..." [00:17:37] freedom in the newspaper that he [00:17:41] ran Apple Daily, he was always [00:17:44] against China always the voice [00:17:48] the dissidents and what we had the problems in [00:17:51] 2019, and I saw him many times, I warn him, [00:17:55] Jimmy, open up your eyes, you don't know what you're doing, [00:17:59] right? No, no, no, you could knocked him, and [00:18:03] and and so I said, okay, you will see at the end of course. [00:18:08] China, he broke the law, lot of laws, and so he [00:18:12] they had no choice, they arrested [00:18:13] him. In August [00:18:17] 2020, invoking the national security law, more than [00:18:21] 200 police officers stormed Apple Daily's [00:18:24] headquarters. [00:18:29] For hours, they seized archives and computers. The [00:18:33] editors in chief were arrested and [00:18:36] Jimmy Ly. Handcuffed was paraded through his own [00:18:40] newsroom like a [00:18:41] trophy. [00:18:54] As a journalist in Apple Daily um to seeing your [00:18:57] boss or your editor being handcuffed and being [00:19:01] arrested by police like a [00:19:04] very familiar premises. like you went, you [00:19:08] you went to work every day, we were very [00:19:11] shocked, what would happen [00:19:14] next? [00:19:19] after year of legal proceedings, Apple Daily ceased [00:19:23] publication. few months later, [00:19:27] another independent newspaper met the same fate and its [00:19:30] editors in chief was sent to prison. [00:19:34] in Hong Kong, more than a thousand journalists lost their jobs [00:19:38] in just six years, around 30 have faced [00:19:42] criminal [00:19:42] prosecution. [00:19:46] After the closure of Apple Daily, Shirley Long found refuge in [00:19:50] Taiwan, where she launched a new media outlet, serving the [00:19:54] Hong Kong [00:19:54] diaspora. [00:20:00] It was from exile there that she followed the conclusion the [00:20:03] long-running trial against her former employer. [00:20:09] for living Hong Kong, I attend um the the trial [00:20:13] of Gemini and I remember very clearly that [00:20:16] everybody saying why you you you didn't leave [00:20:20] Hong Kong, he's a British national right, he [00:20:23] can go to UK and [00:20:26] retired and like with his [00:20:28] family, but after more [00:20:32] than five years of legal proceedings the verdict finally [00:20:36] came. [00:20:38] Sedition, [00:20:41] subversion, collusion with foreign [00:20:44] forces. The outspoken [00:20:48] billionaire was sentenced to 20 years in prison, the heaviest [00:20:52] sentence handed down since the national security law was [00:20:55] adopted. A succession of charges has been brought [00:20:59] against him to ensure that he stays inside, and that does, [00:21:03] I think, have parallels uh with the way that [00:21:07] other authoritarian regimes have treated people who they regard [00:21:10] as dangerous descenters, like Navalni and Angsan [00:21:14] Suki. [00:21:18] This is very hard to say, but... "we may not see uh [00:21:22] Jimmy Lie um walking out of prison alive [00:21:25] in the you know in in given his [00:21:29] old age and so um [00:21:33] yeah" [00:22:00] In schools, pupils now attend Chinese flag raising ceremonies [00:22:03] accompanied by the national anthem. A [00:22:07] compulsory morning ritual that I was invited to witness during [00:22:11] my last visit to the city. We are [00:22:15] Chinese, that's why um, all the student need to [00:22:19] know how... to do the fact raising and also how to sing [00:22:23] the uh [00:22:23] national, [00:22:32] to reeducate the younger generation, the authorities have undertaken a [00:22:36] sweeping overhaul the school curriculum. the reform the [00:22:40] students successfully opposed in 2012 has now been [00:22:44] fully implemented in classrooms, [00:22:47] mandarin spoken throughout mainland China, is gradually [00:22:50] replacing Cantonese, Hong Kong's traditional [00:22:53] language, and new subject has appeared on the time [00:22:57] table, patriotic education. I [00:23:00] hope them to be a good citizen, like that, or they [00:23:04] can love our Hong Kong, North China. This [00:23:08] teacher faithfully repeats the official [00:23:10] line, [00:23:14] but not everyone has fallen into [00:23:16] line, more than 12. teachers have [00:23:20] chosen to resign over the past five years, [00:23:24] this man is one them, he does not wish to show his face [00:23:28] because he fears being arrested simply for speaking to foreign [00:23:32] media [00:23:32] organization. [00:23:36] there's now a great amount of fear, not only [00:23:40] in the classroom but in the whole school, in the school [00:23:42] campus. for example, in the classroom you [00:23:46] have maybe 30 students, you don't know the family. [00:23:50] background, you don't know the political affiliation the [00:23:53] students, so if you say something [00:23:57] that may those students may think that you are [00:24:01] criticizing the government, they may report that to the [00:24:04] parents, and then the parents were complaining to the government or [00:24:08] complaining to the school, teachers may be [00:24:11] arrested, or at least they lost their job like like I [00:24:15] did. This teacher taught history for more [00:24:18] than 30 years enjoying. a high degree of academic [00:24:21] freedom, that changed when Beijing tightened its [00:24:24] grip, as is the case elsewhere in China, the authorities have [00:24:28] removed some the darkest chapters of Chinese history from school [00:24:32] textbooks, and now even Hong Kong's own past is [00:24:36] being rewritten. Nowadays, the government said that Hong [00:24:40] Kong had never been a colony, the Beijing [00:24:43] government hated this Hong Kong history so [00:24:47] much because Hong Kong prosper. [00:25:50] denouncing neighbors, past that is being erased, [00:25:54] history being rewritten. The entire city seems to be [00:25:58] slipping into an orwelian [00:25:59] dystopia. [00:26:08] The latest targets the Hong Kong authorities are books and [00:26:12] independent book shops. Since [00:26:15] 2020 around 40 them have been forced to close their doors [00:26:19] 。 [00:26:48] lead to the closure of her book [00:26:50] shop [00:26:53] 。 [00:27:32] authors these satirical fables, five speech [00:27:35] therapists, were sentenced to 19 months in [00:27:38] prison. a [00:27:42] former journalist and local counselor, wong now [00:27:45] weighs every word she says carefully, and [00:27:49] when the questions become too sensitive, she answers by referring to [00:27:53] novel by Nie Kwang, Hong Kong's master of science [00:27:57] fiction. [00:28:47] Two years after his release from prison Sam Chan is trying to [00:28:51] rebuild a normal life. [00:28:54] He had dream of becoming teacher or nurse but his criminal record [00:28:58] prevents him from pursuing either career. Instead. [00:30:32] Everything has ended up being swallowed by [00:30:35] silence, civil society has been [00:30:38] suffocated, the press muzzled and political [00:30:42] opposition all but wiped out. The city has been [00:30:46] stripped of its [00:30:46] voice. [00:30:52] More than 300,000 Hong Kong residents are believed to have left the [00:30:56] city since the introduction the national system.