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[00:00:00] storm the stronghold, well, they haven't been storming strongholds lately, they try to
[00:00:03] bypass them, all these groups were timely destroyed
[00:00:07] by these wonderful FPV Kamikaze
[00:00:10] drones, uh-huh, Russians have been
[00:00:13] probably for a month, or a fourth month,
[00:00:16] saying that they have some achievements in the Borova
[00:00:20] area, but in fact, again,
[00:00:23] friends, I remind you that where Borova is, the main
[00:00:26] problem for the Russians is the Oskil river, they want to cross it.
[00:00:30] And the Borova case itself is simply
[00:00:34] the key to this river, and all these news that you
[00:00:37] read in this area, it's all about how they
[00:00:41] approach Oskil, how they try, at least, to
[00:00:45] cross it, so at the moment all these attempts
[00:00:48] end in nothing, and the last assault
[00:00:51] is a good example of
[00:00:55] this, you know, more infantry, less
[00:00:58] infantry, this infantry somehow... tries to approach more
[00:01:00] cunningly, they try to invent
[00:01:04] tactical innovations and all this will end
[00:01:08] with the F5 drone pilot saying
[00:01:12] such, let's say, a final goodbye
[00:01:15] to these infantrymen, who actually see this drone as the last thing they will see in their
[00:01:19] lives. Mykola, just days ago, the Institute
[00:01:23] for the Study of War published an analysis that
[00:01:26] Russian troops conducted limited offensive operations
[00:01:31] in your direction towards Kupyansk on
[00:01:34] July 21-22, but they were unable to advance due to a number of specific
[00:01:38] reasons, there are only three of them: the density of Ukrainian drones, which you also
[00:01:41] mentioned, a lack of trained personnel in the
[00:01:44] enemy, and the third, and this is interesting, a deficit of gasoline for Russian
[00:01:48] occupiers, how in general our middle strikes
[00:01:51] affect what you currently see in your
[00:01:53] direction.
[00:01:56] I also wanted to add something interesting. Our
[00:02:00] observations of the area of responsibility of Andriy
[00:02:03] Biletsky's corps show that, in addition to the lack of fuel, there is also a lack
[00:02:07] of water, friends. Imagine the situation, the last
[00:02:11] days have been especially hot, how in such conditions, if there is no
[00:02:14] water, can infantry generally move somewhere?
[00:02:17] And the absence of fuel leads to the following
[00:02:21] thing: if earlier you had
[00:02:25] the prospect, as a Russian occupier, that some
[00:02:28] conventional taxi would take you there, or a tank would take you there, if there
[00:02:32] was such a situation that nothing else could get there, or at least a motorcycle,
[00:02:36] then in conditions when there is no fuel,
[00:02:40] you have to walk, walk
[00:02:43] in conditions where you also have insufficient water supply to
[00:02:46] your positions, how difficult it is, how
[00:02:49] it leads to people making poor decisions, that is, let's say, it's physically
[00:02:53] very difficult to do, and it also leads to very poor decisions, when
[00:02:57] you walk and well, I wouldn't recommend practicing it, but
[00:03:01] try walking 20 kilometers without drinking
[00:03:05] anything, having drunk half a liter of water, because that's all
[00:03:08] the half a liter of water that you have, what does middle strikes
[00:03:12] have to do with this? The deeper we can consistently hit
[00:03:15] enemy targets with our drone component, the further the enemy has
[00:03:19] to pull back their resources, that is, if before a fuel truck could, say,
[00:03:23] drive for 100
[00:03:26] kilometers, 50 kilometers and
[00:03:29] fuel all the equipment that is supposed to lead the occupiers forward,
[00:03:33] yes, bring water, bring ammunition, now this
[00:03:37] distance in the area of responsibility of the third
[00:03:39] army corps is 206 km, our drones
[00:03:43] fly 206 km, their
[00:03:46] fuel tankers are located on these 26 km, their
[00:03:50] trucks with ammunition are located there, their
[00:03:53] warehouses where all this is stored are located there,
[00:03:56] the places where their infantry lives and rests are located there, and accordingly, all this has
[00:04:00] to be pulled back even further,
[00:04:02] therefore, among the main achievements that
[00:04:06] we have had, I would indeed note that we have deepened the zone
[00:04:10] of engagement, and I won't say that before this we didn't fly 206
[00:04:13] km, that would probably be offensive to all those
[00:04:17] crews who did this many times even before it
[00:04:20] became common practice for us,
[00:04:23] but now this drone wall has become denser, if
[00:04:27] before we talked about a kill zone only in the
[00:04:30] near zone, well, let's say up to 40 km we could provide it, as
[00:04:34] a rule it was 20 km, 40 in the case of more
[00:04:37] prepared operations, when drones were prepared for this, now we are already talking about the fact that
[00:04:41] for 206 km, Russians
[00:04:44] don't just walk the streets, they
[00:04:48] also have to hide now, their transport doesn't just drive around, and
[00:04:52] accordingly, these assault actions become
[00:04:55] much more difficult from the point of view of logistical support, so indeed
[00:04:58] the density of drones. the absence of sufficient
[00:05:02] fuel for the Russians and the ability to deliver this fuel where it is needed, well,
[00:05:05] and from us also such information, the absence
[00:05:09] of a sufficient amount of water, because just as autotransport
[00:05:12] needs fuel to move, these are their blood, people
[00:05:16] need water and without it, it's impossible, Mr. Mykola,
[00:05:19] thank you, very informative actually
[00:05:23] for understanding what the occupiers are currently lacking, and
[00:05:26] it means this can also be used, Mykola Volokhov, Abdula,
[00:05:29] commander of a unit in the third army corps,
[00:05:33] about the section between Kupyansk and Lyman
[00:05:37] direction, in the Borova area, now it's time
[00:05:40] to learn about the economy. Now it's time to learn about economic news, which Alexander Morchyk
[00:05:44] has prepared for us. Alexander, hello, please, the
[00:05:47] floor is yours. Hello, colleagues, so Ukrainian farmers
[00:05:51] are asking for help, find out about oil prices,
[00:05:55] exchange rates, and also important news that large taxpayers
[00:05:58] of Ukraine are leaving ports, iron
[00:06:01] ore mining is stopping, details in
[00:06:03] a moment.
[00:06:12] This is how
[00:06:14] additional grain sleeves for temporary storage of
[00:06:17] the harvest are ready to be provided to Ukraine by Canada.
[00:06:20] The need for such capacities increased due to Russian attacks on the ports
[00:06:24] of Greater Odesa. This complicated the export
[00:06:27] of agricultural products and increased the load on logistics, the Ministry
[00:06:30] of Agrarian Policy reported. Currently, Ukraine is actively looking for
[00:06:34] ways to restore grain transportation.
[00:06:37] Allies are already helping, said Ukrainian Foreign Minister Andriy
[00:06:41] Sybiha. And on this. He reminded that precisely due to the full-scale invasion
[00:06:44] of the Russian Federation into our state, the world food
[00:06:48] price index rose by 205%.
[00:06:51] Food continues to become more expensive.
[00:06:55] Large taxpayers are waiting for the resumption of
[00:06:59] port operations and an improvement in the security situation. Ferrexpo is temporarily
[00:07:02] stopping iron ore mining in Ukraine due to problems with sea
[00:07:06] logistics. This is stated in the official statement of the company on the
[00:07:10] London Stock Exchange. In order to preserve working capital,
[00:07:13] the management decided to stop mining. Currently,
[00:07:17] the company supplies European customers from already
[00:07:21] existing warehouse stocks, however, in the absence of additional
[00:07:24] funding, according to Ferrexpo, net available
[00:07:27] cash resources will only last until mid-September. However,
[00:07:31] this forecast may change depending on world prices for
[00:07:35] iron ore, operating costs, and an improvement in the
[00:07:38] security situation in ports also plays a role.
[00:07:42] Perhaps in the future, the resumption
[00:07:45] of the work of this company. Let's move on.
[00:07:48] Maersk will send containers to
[00:07:51] Ukraine by rail from Romanian Constanta. The company will temporarily
[00:07:55] not enter the Black Sea port.
[00:07:58] It is planned that this service will operate until October, until
[00:08:01] the situation in the region stabilizes,
[00:08:04] Maersk reported. Currently, due to increased Russian
[00:08:08] attacks, some shipowners are refraining from working
[00:08:11] with ports. in particular, foreign shipowners
[00:08:15] have started increasing rail
[00:08:17] transportation, well, and solidarity routes
[00:08:21] have also become more active, this is such a complex of sections,
[00:08:25] these are highways, railways, these
[00:08:27] are certain river sections of roads by which
[00:08:31] goods are transported to and from Ukraine. We
[00:08:34] are following this. Let's move on. Demand for dairy products in
[00:08:38] Ukraine is slowing down, at the same time, producers'
[00:08:41] costs for fuel, electricity, logistics, and
[00:08:44] packaging are increasing. This creates prerequisites for a future price increase of
[00:08:48] approximately 10% by the end of
[00:08:51] summer and in winter. Such forecasts were announced by the Association
[00:08:54] of Milk Producers. In the country, key
[00:08:57] factors that previously supported high consumer
[00:09:01] purchasing activity have been exhausted, including high inflationary
[00:09:04] expectations, increased salaries, budget
[00:09:07] payments, well, all this affects the increase in dairy
[00:09:11] prices, analysts say. And an additional factor in the decline
[00:09:14] in demand was the shortage of labor in Ukraine, which
[00:09:18] approximately 70% of
[00:09:21] Ukrainian companies faced.
[00:09:25] We continue the broadcast and traditionally look at the exchange rates as of
[00:09:28] today, how the hryvnia is doing according to the National Bank
[00:09:32] of Ukraine. So, if we look in comparison with yesterday,
[00:09:36] the Polish zloty is more expensive - almost 12 UAH. Such
[00:09:39] a stable fluctuation occurs throughout the week. within
[00:09:43] the mark of 12 UAH, and
[00:09:46] the euro is more expensive, if compared to yesterday,
[00:09:49] 51 UAH 62 kopecks and the American dollar
[00:09:52] is falling in price, it does not reach the psychological
[00:09:56] mark, which some experts often
[00:09:58] predict, it costs as of today 44 UAH
[00:10:02] 68
[00:10:03] kopecks.
[00:10:06] Below 4 million barrels per day, crude
[00:10:09] oil exports from Russia for the first time in six weeks collapsed, Bloomberg
[00:10:13] agency analysts report. The transition of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to such
[00:10:17] active attacks on tankers in the Black and Azov Seas, as
[00:10:20] well as on warehouses in
[00:10:23] Russia, gave Russian oil refineries a temporary
[00:10:27] opportunity to still carry out repairs,
[00:10:30] increase processing volumes, probably, and this factor
[00:10:33] reduced the volume of crude oil exports, experts
[00:10:37] say, however, this indicator may continue to fall,
[00:10:40] as the Russians have concerns about the safety of their
[00:10:43] refineries. For example,
[00:10:46] crude oil shipments from the Black Sea port of Novorossiysk
[00:10:50] last week remained
[00:10:53] significantly lower than in the entire
[00:10:55] history
[00:10:57] of the industry, well, and this prospect
[00:11:00] really still exists, that
[00:11:04] crude oil exports will decrease, in particular,
[00:11:07] new EU sanctions that the EU is preparing
[00:11:11] will also be in effect in the future, well, and I will put
[00:11:15] a period on today, the broadcast continues, watch
[00:11:18] us.
[00:11:20] нас.
[00:11:28] Many thanks to Oleksandr Morshivka for the economic news,
[00:11:31] of course there aren't many good news, we understand, and this hurts
[00:11:35] Ukrainian exports, and will hurt budget revenues
[00:11:39] accordingly, but now we will talk about politics and
[00:11:42] political news, with us is Gennadiy Dubov, political observer,
[00:11:45] Mr. Gennadiy, welcome, thank you for joining our
[00:11:48] broadcast. I salute you, thank you for
[00:11:51] the invitation, I propose to start with...
[00:11:55] the acting Minister of Foreign Affairs
[00:11:58] of Ukraine. Against the backdrop of a massive Russian
[00:12:02] attack on the Kyiv region, the head of the Foreign Ministry called on the world
[00:12:05] to continue putting pressure on Russia through sanctions.
[00:12:09] Russian strikes do not have holidays, support for Ukraine and pressure on the aggressor
[00:12:12] should also not stop. He emphasized that every interceptor
[00:12:16] missile matters, these are tools that save lives, and I
[00:12:19] call on all partners to accelerate the adoption of all
[00:12:23] relevant decisions. At the same time, the President of Ukraine
[00:12:27] Volodymyr Zelensky notes that the supply of missiles for air defense has decreased
[00:12:31] threefold compared to 2025, although
[00:12:34] our partners still have missiles,
[00:12:37] well, and besides that, the
[00:12:41] President of Ukraine suggests why there might be
[00:12:44] delays, or in principle, questions raised about
[00:12:48] Patriots, saying that it's not just a Middle East issue. Let's
[00:12:52] listen to the President. understanding such a large
[00:12:56] deficit, and I don't know if there are other reasons besides
[00:13:00] the Middle East, maybe these are political steps
[00:13:04] to make Ukraine more, let's say, more
[00:13:06] compliant, yes, in my opinion, and
[00:13:10] not without
[00:13:12] this,
[00:13:15] Mr. Gennadiy, not giving us
[00:13:18] missiles against Russian
[00:13:21] ballistics so that we would be more compliant, how does this
[00:13:25] fit into the logic, into the political
[00:13:28] logic of some of our
[00:13:29] partners?
[00:13:32] Well, the most interesting thing here is who exactly among the partners Volodymyr
[00:13:36] Zelensky meant, because if we are talking about the American
[00:13:40] side, it's difficult to argue with Trump about
[00:13:43] the objectivity of deficits, because
[00:13:47] the United States is essentially in an active
[00:13:50] phase of hostilities, they need to defend their
[00:13:53] bases in the Persian Gulf, and
[00:13:57] seeing how much these munitions are actually
[00:14:00] spent, we can state
[00:14:03] that there are indeed deficits, production
[00:14:07] is rather slow, hostilities have not ended, prospects
[00:14:10] are unclear, whether Trump will defeat Iran for the 42nd
[00:14:13] time this year we also do not
[00:14:16] know, and therefore this reproach
[00:14:20] to the United States, it just begs the question, yes, that
[00:14:24] it is precisely... the States, but, there is an
[00:14:28] objective reason here, which is really hard to argue with. At the same time, if we
[00:14:31] talk about our European partners, about
[00:14:35] whom Zelensky spoke, well, in previous speeches, so to
[00:14:39] speak, he claimed that there are, and
[00:14:42] I think this corresponds to reality, there are existing warehouse stocks
[00:14:46] of these ammunition, European countries,
[00:14:49] accordingly, do not conduct any hostilities,
[00:14:53] missiles also do not fly to their military bases
[00:14:56] in their cities today, and such an obvious
[00:15:00] prospect does not seem to exist, but still
[00:15:03] over, as the Europeans themselves say, their minimums,
[00:15:06] they are not transferring these ammunition to us yet,
[00:15:09] or if they do, we start
[00:15:12] talking about the fact that the shelf life of some
[00:15:15] missiles is expiring, they need to be
[00:15:18] used or disposed of, so we ask them
[00:15:21] to transfer them to us, plus very often it's about
[00:15:25] a different type, which is not suitable for shooting down
[00:15:28] ballistic targets, so it seems here
[00:15:32] it is more reasonable that there is no such objective
[00:15:36] reason not to transfer more missiles to the Europeans
[00:15:39] than to the Americans, but on the other hand, it is also difficult
[00:15:42] to imagine that Europeans are pressing our position,
[00:15:46] because unlike the American peace plan of
[00:15:50] 28 points, which we did not
[00:15:53] accept, there is a European, joint
[00:15:56] European-Ukrainian plan of 20 points, which
[00:15:59] accordingly is the product of Mr. Trump's
[00:16:02] creative processing, accordingly by us with
[00:16:05] the Europeans, so it's a bit confusing and
[00:16:08] it's certainly better to ask Volodymyr Zelensky, although he will hardly
[00:16:12] answer purely for political reasons, whom
[00:16:15] he meant, who exactly is pressing and accordingly
[00:16:19] what concessions are being discussed, considering that
[00:16:23] there, if we take the Americans into account, then
[00:16:27] everyone has already stated that the spirit of Anchorage has cleared up and that
[00:16:31] there will be certain new modalities, which no one has announced
[00:16:34] today, and I will literally take a minute of your time, our... Colleagues from
[00:16:38] Defense Express have described a bit about the availability of Patriots, so in general
[00:16:41] the current operators of the Patriot complex in the Pac-3 version are 14
[00:16:45] countries in Europe, these are Sweden, the Netherlands, Germany, Poland, Romania, Ukraine itself,
[00:16:49] moreover, some countries, in particular Switzerland, and Spain ordered them, but have not yet
[00:16:53] received them, in the Persian Gulf, these are
[00:16:56] Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain, the United Arab Emirates, and there they were quite
[00:16:59] successful during the war against Iran, well, in
[00:17:03] Asia - Japan, Korea, and Taiwan, where there are also their own restrictions and
[00:17:07] their own needs for these missiles, especially in Taiwan, which is, in principle, constantly under
[00:17:10] threat of a possible attack from China,
[00:17:13] so this is the real availability, the question is that not
[00:17:17] many are produced, Russia produces as many ballistic missiles as
[00:17:20] America produces anti-ballistic missiles in a month, what
[00:17:24] America generally produces in a year, well, this is for understanding what exists, so here
[00:17:28] the question is probably first of all about production, and what is interesting is that the United States
[00:17:31] of America, people who are close to this production topic, they are conducting
[00:17:35] negotiations with Ukraine and pushing Trump to grant such a license, and
[00:17:39] Poland is ready to cooperate with us, here, probably, this is an open question and the only possible thing is for
[00:17:43] Ukraine and Poland to jointly here in Europe with our American
[00:17:46] partners to produce anti-ballistic missiles, then it will be possible
[00:17:50] to talk about some volumes that will be realistic, what is
[00:17:53] currently available, obviously, we cannot say that this will significantly
[00:17:57] affect the volumes that Russia fires at
[00:18:00] Ukraine. So, let's listen now to the Head of the Board of the Stefan
[00:18:03] Batory Foundation, Edwin Bendek, a veteran of
[00:18:07] the Ukrainian focus, who spoke about the change in Trump's views, his desire
[00:18:10] to end the war in Ukraine. Let's
[00:18:13] listen. For
[00:18:15] Trump, most likely
[00:18:18] it is important to end this war as soon as possible.
[00:18:22] Previously, his strategy was to force Ukraine
[00:18:26] to make concessions, and that is why these
[00:18:30] were such assessments that he is, in fact,
[00:18:33] an ally of Putin to some extent.
[00:19:17] All that he said about Russia being able to somehow obtain these
[00:19:20] technologies,
[00:19:23] so, here, probably experts from these defense technologies
[00:19:26] should express their opinion, but I can say here
[00:19:30] about the Polish, the Polish side,
[00:19:33] because Poland, as a NATO member, can actually somehow
[00:19:35] intervene. And Poland could be
[00:19:39] such a place for the production of such
[00:19:42] missiles, of course, with the participation of Ukrainian
[00:19:45] enterprises.
[00:19:49] So, returning to the topic that in the United
[00:19:52] States, even despite Donald Trump's doubts,
[00:19:56] discussions are still underway about
[00:19:58] Patriot licenses for Ukraine, as
[00:20:01] Reuters reports, and also,
[00:20:05] you know, things that happen despite
[00:20:08] politics, and this is actually very good, according to
[00:20:11] Politico, cooperation between the U.S. and Ukraine in the field of intelligence sharing
[00:20:15] has returned to previous very high levels. Mr.
[00:20:19] Gennadiy, can we say that the position
[00:20:23] of Donald Trump and the White House is
[00:20:27] a public
[00:20:29] story, and there are purely technological things that
[00:20:32] somehow continue our cooperation with the United States, and can
[00:20:36] lead to a real practical result?
[00:20:40] Well, if we are talking about
[00:20:43] these so-called licenses for the production
[00:20:46] of anti-missile systems, I will be skeptical here simply
[00:20:49] because the very concept
[00:20:52] of this license, as we understand it and
[00:20:56] as it exists in our discourse,
[00:21:00] it is absent
[00:21:02] in objective reality. What I mean is, when we talk about plants in Ukraine,
[00:21:06] it doesn't even matter, we imagine a license as a certain single
[00:21:10] document, as a certain permit, which accordingly gives the right
[00:21:14] to assemble the necessary anti-missile system
[00:21:18] from beginning to end. No one in the world
[00:21:21] has such a license, neither in Germany nor in
[00:21:25] Japan, which are very often mentioned, because in Germany
[00:21:29] they produce a different type of anti-missile system, in Japan they produce
[00:21:32] the necessary one, but not all
[00:21:35] the relevant components the Japanese can produce, and there
[00:21:39] such a bottleneck is the seeker heads,
[00:21:42] which are produced by Boeing, so Boeing transfers
[00:21:46] 30 of these heads to the Japanese per year, and the Japanese
[00:21:49] accordingly produce 30 missiles, if Boeing
[00:21:52] transfers 100, perhaps the Japanese will produce
[00:21:56] 100, or vice versa, they may transfer five, and the Japanese
[00:22:00] will produce five, that is, it is to a certain extent a limited license, and in
[00:22:03] general, this anti-missile system is a sufficiently
[00:22:07] high-tech means and is produced by approximately 400
[00:22:10] companies, and the military-industrial complex of the United
[00:22:14] States and all, including patents and so on, they
[00:22:17] belong to private companies, I think...
[00:22:20] that there it's a separate situation, when
[00:22:23] it is necessary to negotiate to a large extent with each
[00:22:26] owner of the respective rights, plus there are also strategic
[00:22:29] considerations of the United States, which have not yet given
[00:22:32] full-cycle production of the most technologically advanced weapons
[00:22:36] to anyone, so in this part, this is
[00:22:39] well, hope can certainly exist, but it is
[00:22:43] rather weak, and from my point of view, the United States of
[00:22:47] Trump are in some ways ahead of the
[00:22:50] Biden administration's policy in the sense that they
[00:22:53] seriously engage in helping Ukraine only when there is
[00:22:57] a significant shift in the balance of power towards the Russian
[00:23:00] Federation, well, let's say, as it
[00:23:03] was at the beginning of the year with Starlinks, when
[00:23:07] accordingly, on the contrary, Ukraine begins to gain an advantage,
[00:23:10] the United States somewhat hinders the corresponding process
[00:23:14] of assistance, and we have seen these cycles, unfortunately, repeatedly, so today
[00:23:18] to say that Trump has changed his position radically, seems
[00:23:21] baseless to me, he can change his rhetoric, that's
[00:23:25] true, but if you look at the decisions in the long run, they stick to more or less
[00:23:29] the same line. Yes, but I think that business circles, and political
[00:23:33] circles in both the US and Poland would be interested if another place appeared
[00:23:37] where high-quality production of Patriot missiles would be
[00:23:40] established, which today, you see, are needed both in the European
[00:23:43] war and in the war in the Middle East, perhaps something else would
[00:23:47] flare up somewhere, we know that there are many points of tension, so I think
[00:23:51] no one would be against it, but in any case, the US Permanent Representative to NATO,
[00:23:55] Whitaker, said that this issue is unlikely to be resolved by the end of the year,
[00:23:58] but the question of choosing a preventive
[00:24:01] measure for the ex-ambassador of Ukraine to the United States of America, Olga
[00:24:05] Stefanyshyna, will be resolved already this morning
[00:24:07] above
[00:24:14] 15 million bail, so let's
[00:24:18] let's listen to Olga Stefanyshyna
[00:24:22] regarding her position on the
[00:24:25] accusations that have been made against her in
[00:24:29] the comment to Slava, she actually spoke on this matter,
[00:24:32] let's listen, I am also ready
[00:24:36] to make some materials, some information public, as you
[00:24:40] remember, I also contacted
[00:24:43] the team of Bihus Info, who prepared
[00:24:47] the material, I provided and showed them materials that
[00:24:50] justify certain questions they asked in
[00:24:53] their investigations, I want to publicly
[00:24:56] state that, of course, in this courtroom, when you follow the
[00:25:00] session, I am a suspect, but leaving
[00:25:03] here, I will continue to be a mother, a politician, a public
[00:25:07] person, a dignified, worthy
[00:25:09] person.
[00:25:11] This is Ms. Stefanyshyn's position, this It's normal that everyone who is
[00:25:15] a suspect considers themselves innocent, but for this there are investigative bodies,
[00:25:18] lawyers, competitions. And the court, in your opinion,
[00:25:22] the political side of this case, we will not discuss it for sure right now,
[00:25:25] the factual side, but the political side of this case and your
[00:25:29] expectations from the decision of this
[00:25:31] court, and also you can express your opinion regarding the position
[00:25:35] of Mrs. Stefanishyna herself, please. Please,
[00:25:39] well, the position is correct, I arrived at the court, there is
[00:25:42] a presumption of innocence, I will defend myself, this evokes
[00:25:45] respect and it, as if this happens within the framework of current
[00:25:49] legislation. So to speak, and this is precisely what, on the other hand,
[00:25:53] if we talk about the political side, it's a bit alarming, because
[00:25:57] it seems to me, this particular
[00:26:00] process has several anomalies. Which I cannot yet
[00:26:03] explain, the anomalies are as follows, one can say that,
[00:26:06] first, when Stefanishyna allegedly wrote
[00:26:10] a statement about resignation from the position of ambassador, many in our
[00:26:13] media said that this is connected with the fact that
[00:26:17] NABU should serve her with a notice of suspicion of committing a criminal
[00:26:20] offense, and she writes a statement in order to
[00:26:24] return to Ukraine and defend herself, as provided
[00:26:27] by law, well, it sounds very progressive and in the spirit of
[00:26:31] a rule of law state, what not to remember that Mrs.
[00:26:34] Stefanishyna is already an accused in court
[00:26:38] and not for the first year since 2023 the Supreme
[00:26:40] Anti-Corruption Court is hearing the case on its merits, that is,
[00:26:44] there is not just a preventive measure or suspicion, but an indictment
[00:26:47] in court and there the case should end in any
[00:26:51] case with a verdict, regardless of what it will be, acquitted or
[00:26:55] accordingly convicted, and here
[00:26:58] she seems to go, well being
[00:27:00] a court, being under court...
[00:27:03] with old terminology, nothing prevented her from going to the United
[00:27:06] States as an ambassador, here she leaves the ambassador post due to suspicion
[00:27:10] and accordingly returns to Ukraine in order to receive
[00:27:14] a preventive measure. This return, if we assume that
[00:27:17] there was no voluntary, accordingly consent to
[00:27:21] actually resign from a diplomatic
[00:27:24] post, this return itself, in fact,
[00:27:27] causes, well, not surprise, but to a certain extent
[00:27:31] a well-founded doubt. because this is often done
[00:27:34] when they already more or less know their fate, that is, figuratively
[00:27:38] speaking, there is a certain agreement with the investigation, regarding
[00:27:41] the possible conclusion of an agreement with the investigation, or something
[00:27:45] like that, so we will observe, the last such
[00:27:48] solemn return, when suspicion
[00:27:52] immediately occurs, I remember, there was such a lady, I think you also remember her,
[00:27:56] Raisa Bohatyriova was her name, and I am not comparing
[00:27:59] Stefanishyna with a representative of criminal power, so to
[00:28:02] speak, but structurally, from the point of view of the criminal process, it was
[00:28:06] approximately the same, this person appears
[00:28:09] in the city of Kyiv, quickly receives a preventive measure,
[00:28:11] and then, accordingly, quickly goes through
[00:28:15] procedures and exits the processes, accordingly, with a clear
[00:28:19] conscience, and somewhere there today exists, does something there,
[00:28:22] I do not rule out that this year
[00:28:25] we will see agreements on the first case and on the second, and
[00:28:29] that is, the ultimate goal is such...
[00:28:33] purification, I do not rule out that Stefanishyna sets herself
[00:28:36] the goal of precisely this kind of result. I will very briefly say about
[00:28:40] Stefanishyna, there was also a story about the decoding, regarding
[00:28:43] the possible influence on the formation of
[00:28:47] NASK, well, this somehow, this is very
[00:28:50] indicative for especially for
[00:28:53] our movement towards the European Union, well, this here has, I wanted
[00:28:57] to note a little that I do not see any
[00:29:00] such measures from Mrs. Stefanishyna,
[00:29:03] at least from the public information that appears
[00:29:06] concerning law enforcement's questions to
[00:29:10] her, let's also remember that Ukrainian Pravda
[00:29:13] published an investigation in June, which stated that the National Agency for
[00:29:17] Search and Asset Management ARMA determined a company
[00:29:21] to manage the House of Trade Unions in Kyiv, and this allegedly
[00:29:24] was supposed to be connected, could have been connected with Stefanishyna's family, in particular with
[00:29:28] her ex-husband. Stefanishyna stated that she was not
[00:29:31] connected with... the activities of her ex-husband, now the SAP prosecutors
[00:29:35] say that Olga Stefanishyna is suspected of illegal
[00:29:38] enrichment and inaccurate declaration, it's about
[00:29:41] two apartments in the residential complex Faina Town, the purchase and renovation of which, according to
[00:29:44] Stefanishyna's instructions, were handled by her close friend,
[00:29:48] in general there is a gap in declaration, I think this is very important
[00:29:52] to note when we talk about certain legal processes. Today
[00:29:55] already around 9 o'clock we have to wait for the court's decision,
[00:29:59] what it will be regarding. And then we will see further, we have literally two
[00:30:03] minutes, I, well, a little more, I will briefly ask, trust in President Zelensky has almost
[00:30:06] not changed, despite the protests, these are new assessments
[00:30:10] from KMIS, the Kyiv Institute of Sociology,
[00:30:14] please tell me, first, can we now talk about the adequacy of such,
[00:30:18] well, the realism and compliance with realities
[00:30:21] of relevant sociological research, because many people say
[00:30:25] that all this is very selective, please.
[00:30:28] Well, it could be... this
[00:30:31] is a product of the phenomenon of unity around the flag, because the country
[00:30:34] is, no matter what, in a state of war, regardless of
[00:30:38] appointments, cardboard boxes or anything else, and in this
[00:30:41] regard, more indicative would be either focus groups or
[00:30:44] more detailed questions, that is, in general, faith and trust are at
[00:30:48] a high level with us, because without the president himself, one way or
[00:30:52] another, embodies the signs of the state and
[00:30:55] is the supreme commander-in-chief of the armed forces.