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[00:00:00] based on the court's decision, whatever it may be regarding her, then we will see further. We
[00:00:04] have literally two minutes, a little more. I will briefly ask, trust in President
[00:00:07] Zelensky has hardly changed, despite the protests. These
[00:00:11] are new assessments from
[00:00:13] KMIS, the Kyiv Institute of Sociology. Please tell me, first, is it possible
[00:00:16] to talk about the adequacy of such assessments,
[00:00:20] well, the realism and correspondence to reality
[00:00:23] of relevant sociological studies, because many say
[00:00:27] that all of this is very selective. Please.
[00:00:31] Well, it could be a product of the phenomenon of unity
[00:00:34] around the flag, because the country is, as it were, in
[00:00:37] conditions of war, regardless of appointments, cardboard, or anything
[00:00:41] else. And in this regard, focus groups
[00:00:44] or more detailed questions would be more indicative.
[00:00:48] That is, overall, trust in us is at a high level, because
[00:00:52] the president, one way or another, embodies
[00:00:54] the attributes of a state and is the supreme
[00:00:58] commander-in-chief of the armed forces. Therefore, to say that this
[00:01:02] is an assessment of the politician himself, I would not. And, in fact, this
[00:01:06] figure in political analysis does not
[00:01:09] mean much. No, but the
[00:01:11] correspondence of these figures, which are announced
[00:01:15] and presented by sociologists, to reality,
[00:01:18] that is, how much can we say that now, during this time of war, when there are certain
[00:01:21] limitations, difficulties for conducting sociological research, how
[00:01:25] realistic are they, in your opinion?
[00:01:29] No, I do not exclude that people indeed answer that way. The problem is
[00:01:32] that we also have other surveys where, for example,
[00:01:36] about two-thirds of people say that we are moving in the wrong
[00:01:39] direction. That is, how can it be that we are moving in
[00:01:43] the wrong direction and trusting the one who is
[00:01:46] moving us in that direction? This is indeed a contradiction, and it is
[00:01:49] on the verge, let's say, of a certain inexplicability.
[00:01:53] But I do not exclude that the answers indeed
[00:01:56] sounded this way, and I explained above, this is the effect
[00:02:00] of unity around the flag, above all else. Accordingly, even if
[00:02:03] it is not liked, there is an understanding that unity
[00:02:07] is necessary, even if, well, let's say,
[00:02:10] the goals set
[00:02:22] decision, perhaps it will take place, regarding Ms. Stefanyshyn, it will take place already during
[00:02:26] our broadcast between 9 and 10 in the morning, the court must
[00:02:29] convene. If the decision is already ready, it will simply be announced, and our
[00:02:33] correspondents who will work in the courtroom will quickly
[00:02:36] inform us about it, and we will also
[00:02:39] announce this information. I remind you they are asking for bail of 13
[00:02:43] million UAH, and Ms. Stefanyshyn said that for her it is too much, well,
[00:02:46] in fact, we are following, we are also following
[00:02:49] who will become the new ambassador of Ukraine
[00:02:53] to the United States, because this is an extremely important
[00:02:56] story as of now, well, and information from Ukrainian
[00:03:00] regions, all this awaits you
[00:03:03] in our Warsaw-Kyiv News issue, in a few moments, do not switch channels.
[00:03:33] This is News Warsaw-Kyiv. My name is Khrystyna Yatskiv. Thank you for
[00:03:36] trusting Slavi and Espreso.
[00:03:39] Three people died, and 19 others were injured
[00:03:43] as a result of a Russian strike on Sumy region. Russian troops attacked
[00:03:46] the civilian infrastructure of the city with four guided aerial bombs, the
[00:03:50] National Police reported. Near the impact sites, damaged
[00:03:54] multi-story buildings, non-residential premises, and infrastructure
[00:03:57] facilities, with hundreds of windows blown out. The aftermath
[00:04:01] is being dealt with.
[00:04:05] Three people died due to Russian strikes on Balakliia in
[00:04:08] Kharkiv region. This was reported by the head of the city military
[00:04:12] administration Vitaliy Karabans. The occupiers
[00:04:15] twice attacked the residential district of the city. The first
[00:04:18] strike destroyed a private house, a woman died, and a fire
[00:04:22] broke out at the scene. The second hit occurred near another
[00:04:25] home and claimed the lives of a man and a woman. At
[00:04:28] the enemy attack sites, relevant
[00:04:31] services are working.
[00:04:35] One person died, and four others were injured as a result of enemy attacks in
[00:04:39] Zaporizhzhia region, reported the head of the Zaporizhzhia Regional Military
[00:04:42] Administration Ivan Fedorov. During the day,
[00:04:45] the occupiers inflicted over a thousand strikes on
[00:04:48] 66 settlements
[00:04:51] in the region. 77 reports were received about damage
[00:04:54] to infrastructure facilities, housing, and
[00:04:56] cars.
[00:05:02] Uninterrupted operation of electricity, heat, and
[00:05:05] water supply systems, protection of critical infrastructure facilities,
[00:05:08] strengthening of air defense, and development of Ukraine's network.
[00:05:12] The National Security and Defense Council
[00:05:15] approved Kyiv's resilience plan.
[00:05:18] The document is intended to prepare the capital for possible Russian attacks on
[00:05:22] critical infrastructure during the autumn-winter
[00:05:25] period. This was announced by the NSDC Secretary Ihor
[00:05:28] Klymenko. According to him, implementation has
[00:05:31] already begun. We remind you that in March, the NSDC approved
[00:05:35] comprehensive resilience plans for regions and individual
[00:05:38] cities.
[00:05:43] Strengthening sanctions against Russia, energy security
[00:05:46] of Ukraine, and the creation of a special tribunal are the main
[00:05:49] topics of negotiations in Kyiv between the head of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry
[00:05:53] Andriy Sybiha and the Minister of Foreign Affairs
[00:05:56] of Latvia, Baiba Braže. The parties also
[00:05:59] discussed Ukraine's further movement towards the EU and
[00:06:03] the opening of all negotiation clusters. Andriy Sybiha
[00:06:06] thanked Latvia for its unwavering support for Ukraine,
[00:06:09] in particular for assistance in rebuilding the affected areas.
[00:06:42] true leadership, annually, directing
[00:06:45] a quarter of a percent of GDP to military aid
[00:06:48] to Ukraine. We are going this
[00:06:52] path together, side by side, into
[00:06:54] the future. As for our bilateral
[00:06:58] relations, they are excellent, wonderful. We
[00:07:02] support Ukraine's path to the European
[00:07:04] Union. We are with
[00:07:08] you, we want to congratulate you on
[00:07:11] the clusters you have already started, and I
[00:07:15] think that the beginning
[00:07:17] of these clusters is only the beginning
[00:07:19] of the process.
[00:07:22] Pentagon chief Pete Heksed denied
[00:07:25] information about the alleged depletion of key missile
[00:07:28] stocks in the US armed forces. He wrote about this on
[00:07:31] social network X. Thus, the Pentagon chief reacted to a CNN
[00:07:35] report, which, citing sources,
[00:07:38] claimed that the US military had spent about 80%
[00:07:43] of its missile stocks for Tet air defense
[00:07:46] systems. Heksed called this information
[00:07:50] false. According to him, the TV channel spread fake
[00:07:54] news, and such reports do not correspond
[00:07:57] to reality.
[00:08:02] Russia plans to deploy a North Korean military
[00:08:05] unit near the Ukrainian border to participate in the war
[00:08:09] against Ukraine. This was reported
[00:08:14] with reference to sources in the Main Intelligence Directorate. According to
[00:08:17] the representative of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, Andriy Cherniak, Moscow
[00:08:21] also expects to receive up to 120 ballistic
[00:08:24] missiles and six launchers for strikes
[00:08:28] on our state. This refers to a unit of about 90
[00:08:31] North Korean servicemen who may
[00:08:35] become part of the 112th missile
[00:08:38] brigade.
[00:08:44] Poland handed Ukraine a new list of places for
[00:08:47] exhumations. In Lviv, a meeting of the intergovernmental
[00:08:50] working group on dignified burials
[00:08:54] was held. The implementation of agreements
[00:08:57] reached during the previous meeting in
[00:09:00] Warsaw last year was summarized. This was reported by the First Deputy
[00:09:03] Minister of Culture Ivan Verbytskyi. He noted
[00:09:07] that the Ukrainian side issued all permits for work
[00:09:11] in the agreed areas on the territory of our
[00:09:13] state. Polish colleagues handed over a list of places
[00:09:17] for further work on the territory of
[00:09:20] Ukraine.
[00:09:24] The Polish President Karol Nawrocki must categorically
[00:09:27] take the side of those who are afraid of rudeness and violence
[00:09:30] on the streets today. This was said by Prime Minister Donald
[00:09:34] Tusk during a press conference.
[00:09:36] He responded to a journalist's question
[00:09:40] to comment on the anniversary.
[00:09:49] I would very much like the President to unequivocally side with those who
[00:09:52] today fear violence and rudeness on the streets, which are typically
[00:09:56] demonstrated by semi-criminal groups, often associated with
[00:09:59] hooligan groups. I would prefer it to be clear, I
[00:10:03] know that now people are increasingly afraid that something will happen to them
[00:10:07] just on the street. I would like President Nawrocki to stand guarding
[00:10:10] people's safety, not to show.
[00:10:25] Nawrocki opposes any manifestations of violence, regardless of
[00:10:28] who is its victim or perpetrator, and expects
[00:10:32] severe punishment for all who commit aggression on
[00:10:36] Polish
[00:10:36] streets.
[00:15:38] Good morning, and the urgent issue that worries, first
[00:15:41] of all, citizens, of course, and also the military-political leadership of the state,
[00:15:45] is ballistic missiles, which the enemy can launch on the territory of Ukraine,
[00:15:48] and anti-ballistic missiles, with which we can respond today to these
[00:15:52] threats. I would like us to hear from relevant
[00:15:56] and real Serhiy Flash
[00:15:59] Beskresny, who actually stated Russia's capabilities
[00:16:03] today to strike the territory of our state with ballistic missiles,
[00:16:06] how many of these missiles can
[00:16:09] Russia launch and in what period of time?
[00:16:12] Let's listen.
[00:16:15] According to my estimates, this is about 100 ballistic missiles every
[00:16:19] month that the enemy can launch at us. Now this
[00:16:22] density is increased, because they need such a demonstrative
[00:16:25] reaction, yes. Now attacks are partially happening at
[00:16:29] the expense of reserves, but further attacks will happen.
[00:16:33] Here, I said from such a number, about 100, well, I guess so. Adviser to the President
[00:16:41] of Ukraine on technological development, well, here
[00:16:45] is such a threat, what does it indicate and
[00:16:48] Ukraine's capabilities to react or
[00:16:52] prepare a defensive response precisely to such
[00:16:56] enemy capabilities today,
[00:16:57] please.
[00:17:00] Well, it indicates that the enemy is now betting
[00:17:03] on ballistic shelling, primarily...
[00:17:07] from this, the capital Kyiv and Kyiv region, we saw this
[00:17:11] once again the day before yesterday, when
[00:17:15] many warehouses of many very organizations, including
[00:17:18] very large and
[00:17:22] nationally known ones, including Rozetka, including
[00:17:25] Nova Poshta, including and what else
[00:17:29] is there, Epicenter,
[00:17:33] certainly, foreign organizations, trading
[00:17:36] firms. not very famous. Yesterday
[00:17:39] Puma was mentioned, yesterday Toyota was mentioned, but I will not
[00:17:42] list them, they suffered strikes, warehouses suffered
[00:17:45] strikes from Russian troops, ballistic strikes
[00:17:48] primarily. Why are these strikes inflicted? They
[00:17:51] are inflicted because the enemy knows that today
[00:17:54] Ukraine does not have enough ballistic
[00:17:58] interceptors, it has launchers, it has anti-aircraft missile
[00:18:01] systems, but it does not have enough interceptors to
[00:18:04] ensure the protection of the capital from these strikes. And therefore, the enemy
[00:18:08] uses this. What Flash called these figures, well, they
[00:18:12] fluctuate, 60+ to 90 Iskander
[00:18:15] missiles per month Russia can produce,
[00:18:19] and accordingly launch on the territory of Ukraine. Besides
[00:18:22] Iskanders, we see that information
[00:18:25] about the possible transfer of North Korean
[00:18:29] operational-tactical missile systems to western Russia, which are similar to
[00:18:32] Iskander in their tactical and technical data, and even
[00:18:36] surpass them to some extent. Primarily in terms of range and warhead power.
[00:18:39] In addition, the enemy very often now uses
[00:18:42] Zircons, which are anti-ship missiles
[00:18:46] that develop hypersonic speed and
[00:18:49] also must be shot down only by Patriot or SAMP/T. And
[00:18:53] the enemy also very often uses
[00:18:56] missiles for S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems, which
[00:18:59] are re-equipped for strikes on ground targets. The danger of these
[00:19:03] missiles lies in the fact that they use shrapnel.
[00:19:06] That is, it is an anti-aircraft missile, in fact,
[00:19:09] yes, and anti-aircraft missile, anti-aircraft missiles,
[00:19:13] meaning, manufactured by the Russian Federation, they use a remote
[00:19:16] detonation, which involves
[00:19:19] approaching an aerial target, initiating the warhead.
[00:19:22] This warhead ejects shrapnel, and with the help of this
[00:19:26] shrapnel, the aerial target is hit. Well, in the same
[00:19:29] way, this warhead works on ground targets, and it is
[00:19:33] dangerous for people who suddenly
[00:19:36] found themselves in the radius of this warhead. Therefore, such
[00:19:40] is the current tactic of the Russian Federation, particularly against
[00:19:43] the capital. I want to repeat once again, it is extremely
[00:19:46] difficult to resist it in conditions
[00:19:48] of critical shortage of interceptors. The
[00:19:52] options, the options are actually exactly
[00:19:56] two, or even three. The first
[00:20:00] is to continue to hope that partners will provide us
[00:20:04] with these interceptors, but there are never enough of them, and there will be a deficit.
[00:20:09] The second option is to develop our own
[00:20:12] systems. The first is our own ballistic systems that will hit
[00:20:15] enemy launchers, strike their facilities, airfields,
[00:20:19] factories, in order to reduce their
[00:20:22] ballistic potential. And the third option
[00:20:25] is to create our own anti-ballistic defense systems. Well, now
[00:20:29] we are moving towards creating
[00:20:32] an anti-ballistic system for
[00:20:35] our...
[00:20:42] Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said that the defense forces will destroy ballistic
[00:20:46] missile launchers on Russian territory to reduce strikes on Ukraine.
[00:20:50] He announced this during a meeting of the National Security and Defense Council
[00:20:54] yesterday, and this is actually a task for all
[00:20:57] responsible parties present at the National Security and
[00:21:00] Defense Council. At the same time, there is also
[00:21:03] the following opinion, I will ask, perhaps you
[00:21:07] will react to this, the host of military television Army
[00:21:10] TV and military blogger Serhiy Misyura noted
[00:21:13] that the uniqueness of this attack, it was
[00:21:17] unplanned by the Russians. A planned
[00:21:20] attack of 4-6 missiles was supposed to happen today.
[00:21:24] A large one of 18-22 missiles happened only on the first
[00:21:27] day, so to speak, opening a new month. Today it was
[00:21:31] a clear response to our strikes on Wildberries warehouses, which
[00:21:34] actually demonstrates that for them this is a painful issue. Let me remind you that
[00:21:37] Wildberries is 4% of Russian
[00:21:39] GDP.
[00:21:42] Not about Wildberries specifically, but about Russia's capabilities
[00:21:45] to accumulate over a certain period and, well, can
[00:21:49] it be said that they are essentially spending unplanned
[00:21:52] what they had planned for a longer
[00:21:55] time? It is quite possible that they may spend
[00:21:58] unplanned, dip into their reserves, after
[00:22:01] which there may be a certain pause, well,
[00:22:05] which will be aimed at accumulating
[00:22:08] strike assets in order to then create
[00:22:12] and deliver subsequent strikes, well, but this does not really matter, well,
[00:22:15] since they have production, well, okay, well,
[00:22:18] there will be a week's break. They will now sacrifice their
[00:22:22] strategic reserves, throw 10-20,
[00:22:25] 30 more missiles than they planned from the very
[00:22:28] beginning, at what stage, then there will be a pause for
[00:22:31] a week or two, and then they will throw another 30 or
[00:22:35] 40. The only significance that
[00:22:39] such a pause can have is to give us
[00:22:42] the opportunity to buy time to still receive a certain
[00:22:46] number of interceptors, and for this, and this next hypothetical...
[00:22:50] it will be less successful, or more, let's say, successful for our
[00:22:53] air defense to work, and we will repel, not zero missiles, but we will shoot down
[00:22:57] a certain number of enemy ballistic missiles, which he will launch,
[00:23:01] but this does not matter much, since, well, there
[00:23:04] is still production, and this production
[00:23:07] will still outweigh the capabilities of our
[00:23:10] partners in supplying us with interceptors. You know, in
[00:23:13] Europe they very often talked, ridiculing
[00:23:16] Russia's economic capabilities, that its economy is somewhere,
[00:23:20] the economy of one Italy, yes, NATO is a huge number of countries, dozens
[00:23:24] of countries, and cumulatively, of course, this is an incomparable potential,
[00:23:27] they also talked about this in Britain, so they said, we will certainly win, because our
[00:23:31] potential is greater, but now we see that Russia produces enough missiles, but
[00:23:35] all this potential cannot create countermeasures for these missiles,
[00:23:39] well, in fact, that's how it turns out, so you see, somehow
[00:23:42] the reality here is not exactly as it
[00:23:46] was said, and plus for Russia also.
[00:23:50] that other tyrannies help it, in particular
[00:23:53] the North Korean republic led by Kim Jong Un.
[00:23:57] Russia plans to deploy in Voronezh, in Voronezh
[00:24:01] region a missile unit for
[00:24:04] launching missiles into Ukraine, there are different figures as to how many
[00:24:07] of these Korean units can launch
[00:24:11] into Ukraine, but very briefly,
[00:24:14] please, what are these threats for Ukraine and how can the world influence, perhaps,
[00:24:18] the behavior of Kim Jong Un and his
[00:24:21] protector, the Chinese People's Republic, well,
[00:24:25] please. I will start with the second question, the answer
[00:24:28] is no way, why do I answer this way, because
[00:24:32] this is not the first move by North Korea in this sense, and how did the world react when
[00:24:36] North Korea in 2023 started supplying
[00:24:38] ammunition for the Russian Federation? Not at all. And
[00:24:42] how did the world react when North Korea started supplying again in
[00:24:46] 2023-2024 those same ballistic missiles
[00:24:48] KN-232, which are now arriving, and will obviously arrive on
[00:24:52] the territory of Ukraine, in the interests of the Russian Federation? The world did not
[00:24:56] react at all. How did the world react when
[00:25:00] Korean, I mean, North Korea sent its troops to
[00:25:03] Kursk region so that they would take part in the war
[00:25:07] against Ukrainian troops? The answer is no way. Honestly, I have
[00:25:11] great doubts that if now on the western
[00:25:14] border of Russia, operational-tactical missile
[00:25:17] systems of North Korea appear,
[00:25:20] the world will not be able to influence it in any way,
[00:25:23] so that's my answer to the second part of your question. The first part
[00:25:27] of your question, well, what are the threats here?
[00:25:30] The same as from Iskanders, only there will be even more, there will be even
[00:25:33] more ballistic missiles launched at Ukrainian cities and
[00:25:37] Kyiv in particular, that's the main risk.
[00:25:41] And I mentioned that this is practically the same
[00:25:44] Iskander, meaning North, North Korean
[00:25:48] ballistic missiles, but... to some extent, they even surpass
[00:25:52] Iskander, primarily in terms of flight range and primarily in terms of warhead
[00:25:55] power. They said that this missile is very inaccurate,
[00:25:59] the first, the first samples, they were very inaccurate, not...
[00:26:02] Well, here, you know, as they say, it's a double-edged sword,
[00:26:06] hypothetically, they aimed at some warehouse
[00:26:09] on the outskirts of Kyiv, missed by 500
[00:26:12] meters, hit it, but this is a real threat, and we will see how we manage to
[00:26:16] react to it. Very briefly, there is another question about the threats that Russia
[00:26:20] is actually creating today, possibly on the territory of the European
[00:26:22] Union. Please tell me, in your opinion, what happened
[00:26:26] in Leipzig, where
[00:26:28] practically, out of nowhere, next to
[00:26:32] a Ukrainian plane on
[00:26:35] an important platform at the airport,
[00:26:39] a drone appears, presumably with
[00:26:40] a warhead?
[00:26:44] Well, an investigation needs to be conducted, actually,
[00:26:46] but I don't have details
[00:26:50] of what happened in Leipzig, yes, but one must understand that
[00:26:54] the Russian Federation will conduct hybrid
[00:26:57] operations on the territory of Europe, EU countries,
[00:27:00] and NATO member countries.
[00:27:02] And this is not the first time that unknown drones have appeared
[00:27:06] in the skies over Germany. I want to remind you,
[00:27:09] this happened last year, and Munich
[00:27:12] airport was stopped because of this, and
[00:27:15] now we will obviously not be surprised if this drone
[00:27:19] has a Russian trace.
[00:27:22] It is actually very difficult to do, well, dear Lord, well, they found
[00:27:25] some person on the territory of Germany, Russian
[00:27:28] agents, gave them a drone, and asked them to
[00:27:32] carry out a provocation. This is my, this is my assumption, I want to repeat once again, I
[00:27:36] do not have the details, but to conduct a hybrid operation by Russian
[00:27:40] agents on the territory of the union, well now it's small, and let's remember
[00:27:43] assassination attempts, assassination attempts on the preparation of an assassination attempt
[00:27:46] on the head of Rheinmetall, and now an assassination attempt was being prepared on one of the drone
[00:27:50] builders, well, and let's also remember that drones crossed
[00:27:53] the air corridor for President
[00:27:57] Zelensky's plane in Ireland, there was also a story, so we see
[00:28:00] Russia, unfortunately, can do this, the question here is of our... partners, that they must first of all
[00:28:30] cannot produce many missiles. but the Russians are producing.
[00:28:34] You know, my previous colleague spoke about hybrid
[00:28:37] warfare, and this is the result of a great
[00:28:40] Russian effort, over the past 30
[00:28:44] years: "Oh, peaceful ones, we give you
[00:28:47] cheap gas, develop your economy, why do you need
[00:28:50] to spend money on defense and security, when in
[00:28:53] Europe there is peace, stability, and everything will be fine, spend money
[00:28:57] on social security, on fighting diseases,
[00:29:01] raise the living... standard of the population," and, in fact,
[00:29:04] there were also political forces that took money for it, there were
[00:29:08] political forces that liked it, that came
[00:29:11] to power on it, there were what
[00:29:13] are called
[00:29:16] useful idiots, to a large extent, what did this lead to, that over
[00:29:19] the last 25 years in Europe, the military-industrial
[00:29:23] complex was practically shut down to zero, and now, when
[00:29:26] they started producing, it turns out it's not so easy,
[00:29:29] a factory that makes weapons, it's not just...
[00:29:32] to un-preserve, to recruit people, to restore
[00:29:35] technologies, but to restore the supply
[00:29:38] of raw materials, this is all very difficult, and the Russians did not
[00:29:42] disappear, these 25 years they continued to develop their
[00:29:45] military-industrial complex and invest colossal
[00:29:49] money in their defense, therefore the economic
[00:29:52] potential, of course, is thousands of times stronger,
[00:29:55] the question is different, that it takes time to
[00:29:59] catch up and turn all this around.
[00:30:18] just as it is difficult to un-preserve and remember this story, it is also more difficult to curtail it
[00:30:22] if something happens, that is, the horses may be harder to harness,
[00:30:26] but it is also difficult to stop them in reality, and here
[00:30:28] it is actually about a more distant perspective.
[00:30:32] given what you said, the Russian Federation is not disappearing anywhere, and unfortunately,
[00:30:36] what is coming to our "balans," as medieval Frenchmen used to say,
[00:30:39] yes, well, unfortunately, the fact that it is not disappearing
[00:30:42] means, means new challenges for us, for our
[00:30:46] economy, for our business. The Russian Federation destroyed two logistics
[00:30:50] complexes of Epicenter in Kyiv and the region,
[00:30:53] Nova Poshta's sorting center, hit the heart of Novus logistics,
[00:30:56] Silpo warehouses, six people died.