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[00:04:44] air pollution was maximal this same
[00:04:47] day. we will talk about this now. also
[00:04:51] remember that we announced strikes
[00:04:54] on
[00:04:57] the sewage system, on the city water supply. including
[00:05:00] the capital prime minister,
[00:05:04] former prime minister Shmehal, and current minister of
[00:05:08] fuel and energy, I think that's what this ministry is called, because they
[00:05:11] so often... Imenovych, I can't keep track, to be honest,
[00:05:15] please forgive me, so we will talk now with Oleksandr Serhiyenko,
[00:05:19] director of the Andriyevsky Research Center, Institute of the City, Mr. Oleksandr, I greet
[00:05:23] you,
[00:05:26] good health to everyone, how
[00:05:29] is the air in Kyiv now, if you are in Kyiv, of course, are there
[00:05:33] any consequences of these night
[00:05:35] strikes still felt,
[00:05:39] oh, excuse me, can you speak louder, because I'm lazy. I hear, okay, okay,
[00:05:43] please, how is the air in Kyiv now, by the way, after these
[00:05:47] strikes, can you smell, so to speak, the smell of fire, or
[00:05:50] ammonia,
[00:05:55] well, the usual state, after
[00:05:58] the attack, well, Kyiv residents, I think, are already used
[00:06:01] to these smells, it's
[00:06:05] the fifth year of the war, and here, here
[00:06:09] we can't do anything, but in many ways...
[00:06:13] Let's talk about where we can, what can be done, well,
[00:06:17] for example, to prevent that catastrophic scenario,
[00:06:20] when the enemy will try to deprive Kyiv residents
[00:06:24] of water or a functioning sewage system, about which
[00:06:27] Minister Shmyhal
[00:06:28] spoke,
[00:06:33] well, I would,
[00:06:37] I would advise listening not only
[00:06:40] to the Vice Prime Minister and
[00:06:43] political scientists or generals who
[00:06:47] draw apocalyptic pictures,
[00:06:51] but also listening to other
[00:06:54] sides in this, well,
[00:06:57] in this conversation, I have repeatedly said
[00:07:01] on different platforms
[00:07:03] that the fear of
[00:07:07] disabling
[00:07:10] the Bortnytska station. Well,
[00:07:13] on the one hand, it's
[00:07:15] greatly
[00:07:17] exaggerated, and on the other hand, I would
[00:07:21] advise specialists in political science
[00:07:25] or military affairs not
[00:07:28] to delve into the sphere
[00:07:31] of water supply and sewerage,
[00:07:34] well, first of all, they scare
[00:07:38] that there will be flooding with feces,
[00:07:42] well, don't think that there are such
[00:07:46] inept uncles
[00:07:49] at the water utility who have not worked for many years in
[00:07:53] this system, and do not know how it
[00:07:55] is done, first of all, if suddenly
[00:07:59] any sewage pumping
[00:08:02] station fails, then the
[00:08:05] water supply to the corresponding
[00:08:08] microdistrict, quarter, or
[00:08:12] territorial unit is immediately
[00:08:15] stopped, so it is simply impossible
[00:08:19] for the sewage system to be flooded, to rise from the
[00:08:23] basement to the house, that
[00:08:27] cannot happen, because it can never
[00:08:30] happen, and secondly,
[00:08:33] last year all
[00:08:37] sewage and water pumping
[00:08:40] stations were...
[00:08:42] equipped with backup electricity
[00:08:45] generators, if the electricity supply
[00:08:48] was interrupted, they would turn on and ensure
[00:08:52] uninterrupted operation of both water supply systems and
[00:08:56] wastewater disposal systems, of course, there were failures,
[00:09:00] I remember one time there was no water for three
[00:09:03] hours, but well, this is a normal
[00:09:07] technical process, and
[00:09:10] administrative ones can be. disagreements, anywhere,
[00:09:14] anywhere, and as for the Bortnytska
[00:09:18] station itself, they also scare that if
[00:09:21] the sludge fields are washed into
[00:09:24] the Dnieper, I assure you, this sludge
[00:09:28] was still about 20 years ago,
[00:09:31] it, from it they made
[00:09:35] briquettes and sold them to agricultural enterprises, because it is a very
[00:09:39] valuable fertilizer.
[00:09:43] Then environmentalists there raised the alarm, because there
[00:09:46] were salts of heavy metals, and they stopped
[00:09:50] doing this, and now these sludge
[00:09:53] lies
[00:09:55] as dead weight in the Bortnytska
[00:09:59] aeration fields,
[00:10:02] regarding the capacity of the station itself, there are actually
[00:10:06] three stations, three blocks, in order
[00:10:09] to receive sewage water from Kyiv, it is enough
[00:10:12] to operate only two blocks
[00:10:16] with plenty,
[00:10:18] so if one or two are disabled,
[00:10:22] the third can work. or two
[00:10:25] others, which will perform
[00:10:27] purification, but even if we take
[00:10:31] the worst option, that there will be no
[00:10:34] purification, Kyiv now, well,
[00:10:38] at maximum, maximum
[00:10:40] discharges
[00:10:43] about a million cubic meters
[00:10:46] of water, sewage
[00:10:49] per day into the Bortnytska station, and past
[00:10:52] Kyiv the Dnieper is not... This is 118
[00:10:56] million. That is, if even all
[00:11:00] the, excuse me, sewage of the city of Kyiv, and let's not
[00:11:04] forget that there are probably 90% just
[00:11:07] water,
[00:11:10] if it is discharged into the Dnieper, then
[00:11:13] in the Kaniv Sea, natural
[00:11:17] purification will simply occur, it is
[00:11:20] 0.9%
[00:11:23] of that which passes through Kyiv,
[00:11:27] so the water will be naturally
[00:11:30] purified in the slow current
[00:11:33] of the Kaniv Sea, mhm, and even
[00:11:36] the threat to those cities that
[00:11:39] are located downstream of the Dnieper, they
[00:11:43] are greatly exaggerated, because there are also
[00:11:46] treatment facilities there, and
[00:11:49] no one will risk supplying
[00:11:53] untreated water to the city
[00:11:57] water supply network, so
[00:11:59] I would once again advise political scientists,
[00:12:03] generals and
[00:12:06] other
[00:12:08] figures
[00:12:11] of the public front
[00:12:14] not to delve into those thickets where
[00:12:18] they are not generals and not political scientists,
[00:12:21] you see, after all, knowledge of sewage is also... very, very,
[00:12:25] very important when it comes to such a huge organism as a city, we are very grateful
[00:12:29] for you clarifying things for us here, clarity and the right perspective on
[00:12:33] how to look at all this, and I see that the city was
[00:12:37] preparing and is preparing for these threats, this is also an important
[00:12:41] , I think, outcome of our
[00:12:43] conversation,
[00:12:49] provided with backup generators,
[00:12:53] diesel fuel,
[00:12:56] there are repair crews, there is spare
[00:12:58] equipment, to destroy these pumping
[00:13:02] stations, and they, by the way, are buried underground,
[00:13:06] and it's not so, not so easy
[00:13:09] to hit them, and it's quite
[00:13:12] simple and quite quick to repair them, to put them in order,
[00:13:16] so yes, let's still deal with
[00:13:20] our urgent matters and,
[00:13:23] and not...
[00:13:25] What worries us, of course, but we need to
[00:13:28] be critical of any information. Mr. Oleksandr, thank you very much for
[00:13:32] this conversation and for this information. Oleksandr Serhiyenko
[00:13:36] was with us, director of the Analytical Research Center
[00:13:39] Institute of the City, who debunked a little bit of scare stories and
[00:13:43] myths about
[00:13:46] what
[00:13:48] will swallow the capital's sewage and feces
[00:13:52] after the strikes on the Bortnytska aeration station. Why this will not
[00:13:56] happen, well gentlemen, we are moving on, or
[00:13:59] we are, by the way, following the court process,
[00:14:03] right now the court is hearing the case and choosing
[00:14:07] a preventive measure for our recent
[00:14:10] ambassador, ambassador
[00:14:14] to the United States, Ambassador
[00:14:18] Stefanishyna Olga, you know that there
[00:14:21] are certain accusations that NABU and SAP have brought against her.
[00:14:25] And whether there will be any results today, we don't know, but our
[00:14:28] correspondent is there, we will include his report
[00:14:32] soon, later, well, now let's talk a little
[00:14:35] about the situation with this air
[00:14:39] war and the exchange of strikes on infrastructure, whether this is
[00:14:43] a new phase of the war, where will it lead us, can
[00:14:46] we see, approximately look into
[00:14:49] the future, for this we will talk with the director
[00:14:53] of military programs of the Razumkov Centre. Mykola Sungurovsky. Mr.
[00:14:57] Mykola, I greet you.
[00:14:59] We are just setting up the camera with him now, and in the
[00:15:03] meantime, I will remind you that today we are also asking you if you are
[00:15:07] ready. If it's better that this never happens, but
[00:15:11] suddenly to provide pre-medical aid
[00:15:14] to victims of shelling, if you suddenly witness such
[00:15:18] an event, and the answer option: yes, I have already completed pre-medical
[00:15:21] aid courses, or perhaps I always carry
[00:15:25] a first aid kit and a tourniquet for such an emergency, or are you
[00:15:29] still such an option as "I will save myself," or
[00:15:32] "I will leave this matter to professionals,"
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[00:15:51] yet. Well, now we are waiting for our
[00:15:55] military expert, with whom we will talk about: let's try
[00:15:59] to look into the future, I read, by the way, Mr. Mykola Songurovsky back in
[00:16:02] 2014.
[00:16:08] I apologize year
[00:16:10] gave a forecast, which in principle turned out to be fair
[00:16:14] about the fact that we are facing a very difficult
[00:16:17] year, two, even, and that's how it
[00:16:20] happened, but we endured them, so
[00:16:23] the director of military programs of the Razumkov Center, Mykola Sungurovsky,
[00:16:27] who is already on our air, predicted, I greet
[00:16:29] you,
[00:16:35] Mr. Mykola, do you hear us?
[00:16:38] yes, I hear, I would like to say, good
[00:16:41] day, good day, if let's try to try a little
[00:16:45] to look into, at least the near future, in your
[00:16:48] opinion, are we now observing a certain turning point in this
[00:16:52] war, is its character changing, these strikes on
[00:16:55] infrastructure, is this a new phase of the war of attrition, in your
[00:16:59] opinion, how long can it last and where
[00:17:01] will it lead us in the near
[00:17:04] future,
[00:17:06] well, I... would not call this some new
[00:17:10] phase of the war, this is a continuation of the war of
[00:17:13] attrition, it's just that
[00:17:16] the tactics, the strategy of this war are changing, but
[00:17:20] its essence remains the
[00:17:22] same, what awaits us, well, what awaits
[00:17:26] us, let's say , not not very
[00:17:29] acceptable options for us,
[00:17:33] since, well,
[00:17:36] let's say, our strikes on the military-industrial
[00:17:40] complex of Russia have
[00:17:43] their negative consequences
[00:17:46] for them, but they are
[00:17:49] not enough, let's say , seriously affecting
[00:17:52] the overall capabilities of Russia,
[00:17:56] because the production
[00:17:59] of both missiles and especially ballistic
[00:18:02] missiles, there is decreasing, but
[00:18:05] well, it remains at a very, very high level for us,
[00:18:09] not very, but sufficiently high for us,
[00:18:13] besides, feeling the lack
[00:18:16] of its capabilities in
[00:18:19] the production of this type
[00:18:22] of weapon, Russia resorted to, well, let's say
[00:18:25] , semi-standard
[00:18:29] means for it, that is,
[00:18:32] the supply of ballistic missiles from North
[00:18:36] Korea. And also the transition to
[00:18:39] production, but the restructuring
[00:18:43] of S-300, S-400 anti-aircraft missiles
[00:18:46] into ballistic missiles, or
[00:18:49] semi-ballistic missiles, but which, well, for
[00:18:53] us, let's say, also have very
[00:18:56] unpleasant consequences for us,
[00:18:59] since they have a large warhead,
[00:19:02] they have a large number
[00:19:05] of fragments in this part,
[00:19:09] a very high flight
[00:19:11] speed,
[00:19:14] therefore, let's say, a very, well, reduced,
[00:19:17] reduced reaction time of our anti-missile, anti-aircraft
[00:19:20] defense system, and
[00:19:24] therefore, let's say, the probability of
[00:19:27] hitting them with our, our missiles,
[00:19:30] well, is low, let's say, and therefore
[00:19:33] here we need already...
[00:19:37] such a comprehensive solution, such as
[00:19:40] continuing to strike at the enterprises of the Russian
[00:19:44] military-industrial complex, which not
[00:19:48] only produce missiles, but
[00:19:51] produce, let's say, fuel, produce explosives,
[00:19:54] produce components,
[00:19:57] various ones, needed for these missiles,
[00:20:01] sanctions policy against, let's say,
[00:20:04] preventing the supply of these
[00:20:07] electronic components to Russian weapons
[00:20:11] in general, besides
[00:20:13] it is necessary, let's say
[00:20:16] so, a sanctions
[00:20:20] policy, to strengthen the sanctions policy
[00:20:23] against Russia's partners, such
[00:20:26] as Iran and North Korea, well, regarding
[00:20:29] China, I am silent, I am silent, because many
[00:20:33] are afraid to deal with China,
[00:20:36] but here... regarding direct and
[00:20:39] indirect supplies through third countries, this
[00:20:43] sanctions policy must be strengthened and seriously
[00:20:47] strengthened. In addition, we need.
[00:20:51] let's say, to resort
[00:20:53] to
[00:20:56] strengthening our own capabilities,
[00:20:59] capabilities for electronic warfare,
[00:21:02] capabilities for early warning about
[00:21:04] strikes, for, let's say,
[00:21:08] strengthening the means
[00:21:12] of radar observation of
[00:21:15] targets, regarding
[00:21:18] increasing the range
[00:21:20] of detection of these targets and tracking these
[00:21:23] targets, besides, well, let's say so,
[00:21:27] the measures themselves to strengthen the protection of the targets
[00:21:31] of these strikes, especially
[00:21:34] critical infrastructure, the construction of protective
[00:21:38] structures for the protection of the civilian
[00:21:40] population,
[00:21:44] improving the quality of means of informing
[00:21:47] the population about... air threats and so
[00:21:51] on, that is, it must be a systemic,
[00:21:55] comprehensive approach
[00:21:57] to ensuring, I would not say sustainability, because now
[00:22:01] sustainability, the term itself, it is very
[00:22:05] overestimated, I would say, increasing
[00:22:07] survivability, because this includes not only,
[00:22:11] let's say, protection, but
[00:22:13] also, let's say, spatial dispersal
[00:22:17] of these possible targets of strikes. Their
[00:22:20] protection, the construction of a decentralized system
[00:22:24] of management of these objects and so on and so forth, many
[00:22:27] things, uh, which ensures
[00:22:31] the survivability of our system in general,
[00:22:34] the system of eco- economy, the system of energy,
[00:22:37] the system of,
[00:22:40] ensuring vital functions.
[00:22:43] We have Trump's answer, he said that they
[00:22:46] have a deficit of missiles now for Pac-3 for interception.
[00:22:50] Ballistics, this means that we do not have many
[00:22:53] options, and not many opportunities,
[00:22:57] how to deal with ballistics, meaning
[00:23:00] shooting down, and we also had information from Zelensky that
[00:23:04] allegedly on average 102 to 120 ballistic missiles
[00:23:07] Russians can produce per month, this is what I said in June,
[00:23:11] that is, it is approximately 15 thousand per
[00:23:14] year, if those missiles will be difficult
[00:23:18] or impossible to shoot down, to what extent...
[00:23:21] this can become a decisive factor, for example, in
[00:23:24] the coming months, or can Russians, I don't know, turn
[00:23:27] the situation around, using this right now, well
[00:23:30] , this, this, this again depends not only
[00:23:33] on Russia's capabilities, but on
[00:23:37] our capabilities, as I have already said, because any scenario
[00:23:40] consists of two components, this is
[00:23:44] the action of the threat itself, and our
[00:23:48] counteraction, the counteraction of the system.
[00:23:50] protection from threats, that is, it is necessary
[00:23:53] to increase, strengthen the
[00:23:56] capabilities of the threat protection
[00:23:59] system, this includes sanctions policy,
[00:24:03] this includes, let's say
[00:24:05] so,
[00:24:08] accelerating the development of our, including
[00:24:12] ballistic and anti-
[00:24:14] anti-missile means, which are being carried out, such
[00:24:18] work is being carried out, but it is being carried out... Well,
[00:24:21] of course, since they are mostly
[00:24:24] located outside Ukraine,
[00:24:27] they are not carried out, let's say
[00:24:31] so, not fast enough, not at a sufficient
[00:24:35] pace, and it is very difficult
[00:24:38] to scale them up, but
[00:24:41] the production and
[00:24:44] use, improvement of electronic
[00:24:47] warfare means, means...
[00:24:50] radar detection
[00:24:53] of targets, protective means - this is already
[00:24:56] our problem, our problem, but our
[00:25:00] problem, it depends again on the help of our
[00:25:03] partners, since we have very serious resource
[00:25:07] limitations,
[00:25:09] and therefore any, any cooperation with partners in this
[00:25:13] direction, well, should be welcomed, mhm,
[00:25:16] I will ask again about our ballistic missiles.
[00:25:20] announced, and we have already recalled that
[00:25:24] back in 2014 there were some
[00:25:27] statements, and the then prime minister or then he was the minister of defense, again
[00:25:31] I'm already getting confused in these stories,
[00:25:34] Shmyhal said that we will have 300 missiles in
[00:25:38] 2025 of our own production, and it seems we did not
[00:25:41] make them, perhaps we don't know something, maybe they are
[00:25:45] somewhere, maybe we don't know something, but well,
[00:25:48] certainly not three thousand, because such statements
[00:25:52] are made in order to allocate money, and
[00:25:55] how these funds are spent, that's another matter, well, by the way, about
[00:25:59] money, I think, here President Zelensky spoke about 35. Okay,
[00:26:02] how to scale this production,
[00:26:11] I don't know, what, well, Ukraine was a space
[00:26:14] power, ballistic missile technologies, this is, in
[00:26:18] principle, the technologies of a space power, if I am not
[00:26:20] mistaken, if in general, the general logic
[00:26:23] is such, why do we have such problems with
[00:26:27] making ballistic missiles and scaling
[00:26:30] this up?
[00:26:32] Well, to say that we were, let's say, a space
[00:26:36] power, to directly connect that with ballistic missiles, that's not quite, not
[00:26:40] entirely correct, because ballistic missiles are not space
[00:26:44] apparatus, and, let's say, their
[00:26:48] application and production, they have
[00:26:51] very serious technological differences,
[00:26:55] in principle, Russia Ukraine, it
[00:26:58] specialized in the production, let's say,
[00:27:01] of engines for... space apparatus and control systems
[00:27:05] for space apparatus, everything
[00:27:08] else was concentrated in other
[00:27:10] republics of the former Soviet
[00:27:13] Union, where exactly I do not know, mhm,
[00:27:17] because to say that only we were responsible for
[00:27:20] the space capabilities of the USSR,
[00:27:23] one cannot say, but well, the country was
[00:27:26] a component in this complex, and based
[00:27:29] on, let's say, one...
[00:27:32] one of the components of this system cannot
[00:27:36] build the entire system,
[00:27:39] I understand, but engines are a key thing. If they
[00:27:42] were produced, why aren't they being produced
[00:27:44] now?
[00:27:47] Well, any component of this missile is key,
[00:27:50] mm-hmm, without a control system, there's no ballistic missile, without an
[00:27:53] engine, there's no ballistic missile, without
[00:27:57] some hydraulic
[00:27:59] control system, there's no ballistic missile. That is,
[00:28:02] everything, any component, is
[00:28:05] critical, in your opinion, without it, there
[00:28:09] will be no, without it, there will be no systemic program, or are we able to
[00:28:12] produce our own ballistics in large, large quantities in your
[00:28:16] opinion,
[00:28:18] well, not at the moment, not at the moment, that is, it's a very
[00:28:22] complex process, it, well, requires the
[00:28:26] construction of specific technological
[00:28:29] lines, well, again... not on
[00:28:33] the territory of Ukraine, because
[00:28:35] they immediately become, let's say, extremely
[00:28:39] important targets, firstly, and
[00:28:42] secondly, well, let's say, again, resource constraints,
[00:28:46] that is, it requires the involvement, let's say, ensuring the
[00:28:49] protection of this production and the involvement of resources from our
[00:28:53] partners, from this will depend the process
[00:28:56] of production and scaling.
[00:28:59] Can the West be our rear in this? Not
[00:29:03] really, maybe, maybe,
[00:29:05] the West, the West, well, in theory, the West should be
[00:29:08] interested in this, because their
[00:29:12] production is also limited,
[00:29:15] they also need to, let's say,
[00:29:19] improve and scale this
[00:29:22] production, but to do it with the experience
[00:29:25] of Ukraine. Thank you for the conversation, this study of this
[00:29:28] experience, again, thank you for the conversation.
[00:29:32] Indeed, Mykola Songurovsky, Director of Military Programs at the Razumkov Center, was with us, unfortunately, we don't have more
[00:29:36] time, I remind you that today we
[00:29:39] asked you, we ask you, if you are ready to provide
[00:29:43] pre-medical care in case such a need arises,
[00:29:46] there are four answer options, including
[00:29:50] yes, because I have already taken courses, I always carry
[00:29:53] a first aid kit or a tourniquet with me, or no, I will leave it to
[00:29:56] professionals, or no, I will save myself, choose your
[00:30:00] option, vote, and we will see you in the final minutes.
[00:30:17] I know you liked the lot with phones, because we offered
[00:30:21] you a button phone, simple,
[00:30:24] convenient and comfortable to use, unlike
[00:30:27] modern smartphones, which not everyone knows how to
[00:30:31] use yet, that's first of all, secondly, a regular
[00:30:34] smartphone very often runs out of battery,
[00:30:37] and at the most inconvenient moment, there are situations when I even
[00:30:41] look at myself, and I need something, I absolutely need to call
[00:30:44] somewhere, or I need to do something, the smartphone
[00:30:48] ran out of battery, and it's actually difficult to find an answer to this
[00:30:51] question and understand how to act in such a situation, it's extremely
[00:30:55] difficult, today we offer you a button
[00:30:58] phone, but very...