ESPRESO — broadcast 20260806 110000 UTC 533 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] what Olga Stefanishina could influence, in particular, this could probably be, [00:00:03] according to the investigation and the Bureau of Economic [00:00:06] Security and the National Anti-Corruption Bureau. [00:00:10] Prosecutors also spoke about this, unfortunately, I didn't have time [00:00:14] to hear, I was preparing for the broadcast, and [00:00:17] I also want you to hear what Olga [00:00:20] Stefanishina said before the break, because she says that [00:00:23] she will gradually communicate with the [00:00:27] media, and she respects what law enforcement [00:00:31] agencies do, but she has the right to defense. Let's listen to the direct [00:00:34] speech. [00:00:37] I have no questions for myself, I [00:00:40] absolutely with great respect relate to the fact that law enforcement [00:00:43] agencies have and are obliged [00:00:47] to monitor and ensure control over the activities of public [00:00:51] officials, but I also draw your attention to the fact that I have [00:00:54] the right to defense and will do so in court, [00:00:58] relying on... impartial objective [00:01:01] justice. [00:01:04] Well, as for the court session, Andriy, I want to note that currently, [00:01:08] according to my [00:01:11] information, [00:01:13] the prosecutor had the floor, he told other details of the case, [00:01:16] after that, the defense should [00:01:19] speak, then Olga Stefanishina herself, and [00:01:22] only then will the court retire to the deliberation [00:01:25] room. That is, it is probably safe to [00:01:28] say that the judicial process will either drag [00:01:31] on today until late at night, until curfew, [00:01:35] or will be postponed to another [00:01:38] day, I have such details from the High Anti-Corruption Court, here [00:01:41] today they are choosing a preventive measure for the former ambassador [00:01:45] to the United States, Olga Stefanishina. Dmytro, [00:01:48] just one clarification, that is, theoretically, today Ms. [00:01:51] Stefanishina has such a chance to spend the night [00:01:55] in the pre-trial detention center, or is that not [00:01:58] so? [00:02:01] Most likely yes, perhaps the court will [00:02:04] review and finish reviewing the case today, I also want to clarify [00:02:07] that prosecutors are asking for [00:02:11] the selection of a preventive measure, a measure of detention with [00:02:15] an alternative of 13 million [00:02:18] hryvnias. Uh-huh, this is important, a very detailed, thank you very much [00:02:22] for this story, Dmytro Didora, our correspondent [00:02:25] who is in Kyiv now at the court, where there is now... [00:02:28] a break and we will have [00:02:32] some decision today, or not, maybe tomorrow, but [00:02:36] the court is considering the actual [00:02:40] suspicion that was announced on Butasap regarding [00:02:43] the ex-minister, ex-vice-premier, [00:02:47] Olga Stefanishina, and until recently our [00:02:50] ambassador to the United States, who just [00:02:54] returned from the United States to [00:02:58] actually, [00:03:00] stand before the court that is considering this case, and there are very interesting [00:03:04] details, however, I have already seen this at the Anti-Corruption Center, [00:03:07] that she could influence the [00:03:10] appointment [00:03:13] of the head of NAPC, if this is indeed proven, we will, [00:03:16] probably only assume, but that there may be [00:03:19] additional accusations and suspicions [00:03:23] considered in such a case, and this [00:03:26] may also have consequences, probably, for the current leadership [00:03:31] of NAPC, I think, I hope, that they will hold some briefing or [00:03:34] press conference tomorrow and try to answer these [00:03:38] quite shocking details that were announced today [00:03:41] during the court hearing. Well, now we [00:03:44] will try to talk about [00:03:48] missiles in general, missiles are currently the main topic for [00:03:51] us, can we repel [00:03:55] the enemy, in fact, the best defense is, as [00:03:58] is known, an attack. Can we destroy Russian capabilities, produce [00:04:02] ballistic missiles, what should we do with those [00:04:06] ballistic missiles from North Korea, about which Reuters wrote today, [00:04:10] I will talk about this with Oleh Katkov, editor-in-chief of Defense [00:04:13] Express, Mr. Oleh, greetings to you, [00:04:16] good afternoon, thank you for the invitation, thank you for participating in the program, I [00:04:20] will start by saying that [00:04:23] today we failed to shoot down any ballistic missiles at night, unfortunately, [00:04:26] what does this indicate? [00:04:30] About the fact that what was [00:04:33] warned about a very long time ago, finally happened, [00:04:36] that is, the number [00:04:39] of anti-ballistic missiles available to Ukraine has decreased to [00:04:42] zero, in the previous attack one ballistic missile [00:04:46] was shot down, that is, it turns out [00:04:49] the last missile was fired a week [00:04:52] ago, and after that, apparently, no additional supplies were [00:04:55] made, and the worst thing is that it is not [00:04:59] worth expecting [00:05:02] a drastic change in the situation, that is, that Ukraine will be flooded with Patriot missiles, [00:05:06] objectively, because the [00:05:09] numbers are playing against us. And unfortunately, these numbers [00:05:13] are also well known to the enemy, and according to the data [00:05:17] of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, Russia [00:05:20] produces 60 ballistic missiles [00:05:22] for Iskander per month, 40 [00:05:26] RM48U missiles for S-300 and S-400 complexes for strikes on ground [00:05:30] targets, and about one and a half dozen Zircons and [00:05:33] Kinzhals, as hypersonic and [00:05:37] aeroballistic missiles, that is, a total of approximately over [00:05:41] 100, 110, 115 targets, shooting [00:05:44] down which requires a Patriot. At the same time, the American defense [00:05:47] industry, primarily Lockheed Martin, is meant. So [00:05:51] Lockheed Martin produces 620 missiles per year, [00:05:55] this is based on the example of 2025, and this is approximately [00:05:58] 50-60 missiles per month, [00:06:02] that is, the enemy has over a hundred, Lockheed Martin - [00:06:05] 50-60, that is, if even the US, [00:06:08] and at the direction of a more pro-Ukrainian president, [00:06:12] would transfer all the missiles they produce, we would [00:06:16] already not have enough of them, and [00:06:19] therefore, if there are any additional [00:06:23] sources, the president spoke about this, the US representative [00:06:27] to NATO spoke about this, and the sources are the current [00:06:30] production, that is, the US can transfer some part of the current production, [00:06:33] and also the reserves that are in partner [00:06:37] countries, but objectively, they [00:06:40] are already either empty, or these [00:06:44] countries simply have [00:06:47] their own vision of helping Ukraine, [00:06:50] or rather, they do not [00:06:54] even sell weapons to Ukraine, like South Korea, [00:06:57] or they have legal restrictions, such as in Japan, [00:07:00] which after World War II, after capitulation, has very [00:07:04] serious restrictions on the export of weapons, and even there they found [00:07:07] loopholes to help [00:07:10] Taiwan, which also [00:07:14] exploits, well, there China does not have such a security situation, [00:07:18] it is unlikely that Taipei will agree to [00:07:21] reduce the number of its Patriot missile stockpiles. The countries [00:07:25] of the Persian Gulf, they fired a huge [00:07:28] number due to the war in Iran, well, with Iran, [00:07:32] and most likely their arsenals, well, [00:07:36] objectively, have already bottomed out, and European countries [00:07:40] supported us with Patriot missiles [00:07:43] starting from 2023, and [00:07:46] the last transfer, for example, of five missiles from Poland caused [00:07:50] a political scandal in Warsaw, and the US itself, well, [00:07:54] Trump has already said that it is not [00:07:57] a source, and objectively this is confirmed by the figures provided [00:08:00] by American analytical structures regarding spending, because [00:08:03] they calculated, in particular, this is CSIS, it [00:08:06] calculated that the US most likely has [00:08:09] approximately 700 Impact 3 missiles left [00:08:13] for Patriot, which means approximately 13 per [00:08:17] launcher, per complex of [00:08:20] 60 available, that is, this is to load two [00:08:24] launchers completely per system, and therefore [00:08:27] when Ukraine asks for 300 missiles, then [00:08:30] if indeed they have 800 left, this is almost [00:08:34] 40%. Regarding these PAC-3 [00:08:38] licenses, we have already talked a lot this week about the fact that even [00:08:41] if we were given this license, it would be extremely difficult to [00:08:45] implement it, even such a technologically advanced country as Japan, it took them [00:08:49] several years to launch the production process, [00:08:52] so why are these missiles so complex, can we bypass this [00:08:56] technological threshold to shoot down ballistic missiles, all [00:09:00] those announcements about some project Freya, about some interceptors [00:09:04] of Ukrainian production, our own anti-ballistic missiles, [00:09:07] until recently this was a very popular topic, what happened [00:09:10] to it, why don't we talk about it anymore? Nothing happened, it [00:09:13] is developing, regarding Freya, the deadlines have even [00:09:17] shifted in a different direction, they have become more fresh, [00:09:21] in particular, in the leadership [00:09:23] of Firepoint, in one of their recent [00:09:26] interviews, they are very actively selling them, I don't even remember [00:09:30] the specific publication, but it was [00:09:33] announced that the missile should go for [00:09:36] testing with interception of ballistic targets in [00:09:40] July, well, by July 2027, [00:09:43] uh-huh, that is, in a year it will go for [00:09:46] testing, and it should be noted immediately [00:09:50] that Firepoint does not compare its [00:09:52] missile, [00:09:54] FP7.x with PAC-3 [00:09:58] MSE, in one of the interviews it was also explained [00:10:02] that at the first stage, that is, when it will be the first [00:10:06] such cycle, the first iteration, conditional block [00:10:09] one, then it will definitely correspond. [00:10:13] to the PAC-2 GMT missile, the one that can only hit [00:10:16] ballistic targets, there is no hit-to-kill technology, and [00:10:19] objectively, on a missile that is based on 48N6, from [00:10:23] the S3 400 complex, still Soviet, that is, [00:10:27] it is an aerodynamic form, concept, layout, other [00:10:30] materials, other solid fuel, other electronics, but [00:10:34] conceptually it is 48.6, so it was difficult [00:10:37] to expect hit-to-kill technology, kinetic [00:10:40] destruction of the warhead in the air along with a ballistic [00:10:43] missile, that is, in the summer of 2027, the [00:10:46] Freya missile will go for [00:10:50] testing, to this time we need to add, well, to this period we need to add time [00:10:54] for testing, [00:10:57] the start of production and production not only of missiles, here [00:11:00] we are only partially dependent on supplies [00:11:04] from European partners, because, for example, the homing head, at least [00:11:08] now it is considered as a [00:11:11] cooperation with the company, that is, from [00:11:14] the German defense company it will depend on how many missiles we can [00:11:18] produce, how many homing heads they will supply, how many missiles we [00:11:21] can physically make, well, and from all European... partners it will [00:11:25] depend on how many complexes we can make, because all [00:11:29] the launchers for this complex, the command post, this is [00:11:32] the parish of the partners, and only [00:11:35] after everything goes into production, that is, [00:11:39] the first complex is conditionally produced, yes, then we must understand [00:11:42] that, well, there are much more Patriots than [00:11:45] one, and then there will also be the issue of producing [00:11:49] these missiles, which will be at least at the [00:11:53] PAC-2 GMT level at the first stage, and [00:11:56] here the question is the number of these missiles, so Freya can definitely [00:12:00] never be considered as a solution for [00:12:03] tomorrow, conditionally for this winter, what solutions do we have for this winter, can [00:12:07] we have our own, possibly ballistic, by the end of the year, we had many [00:12:11] announcements, [00:12:15] well, unfortunately, I really hope that the same [00:12:19] Firepoint company has changed its vision, [00:12:22] but the last time the question of FP7 was raised, [00:12:25] I remind you, according to the company's declarations, [00:12:28] it was supposed to go for codification back [00:12:32] in the order that was six months ago, and [00:12:35] in the summer of this year, the 56th, [00:12:39] FP9 was supposed to go for codification, but obviously the deadlines [00:12:43] are shifting to the right, so regarding FP7 there was such [00:12:47] a, well, I can probably say a strange phrase regarding [00:12:50] the fact that this missile is not needed, because it is expensive [00:12:54] and flies a short [00:12:55] distance, [00:12:58] well, let's say, I think that perhaps [00:13:01] now, if this will be reprocessed, but [00:13:05] this phrase was made from the point of view of information [00:13:09] security, only practice will show, but it is known [00:13:13] in Ukraine, that is, again, from public interviews, how many [00:13:16] official statements there have been regarding at least two projects that [00:13:20] exist, these are ballistic missiles Firepoint [00:13:23] and... it is known from KB Pivdenne, this is [00:13:27] Sapsan, but probably, when we [00:13:30] finally hear the howling from the swamps that these missiles are actively [00:13:34] used, then we can say that we have them in sufficient [00:13:38] quantities, until then, [00:13:41] well, we hope that this will happen, let's talk about [00:13:44] Sapsan, about this missile a little more, I think it is known what we can [00:13:48] say about it now with the latest information, how promising [00:13:51] is this development, [00:13:54] it remains promising for over 10 years, this [00:13:58] says a lot, in particular, that this [00:14:02] prospect is not yet in sight in the near [00:14:05] future, [00:14:07] I objectively prefer to talk about Ukrainian [00:14:11] ballistic missiles, based on the fact that howling began in the swamps [00:14:14] that Ukraine is using some ballistic missiles, because [00:14:18] in this case, when we discuss [00:14:21] what we should have had in service [00:14:24] for a long time, nothing [00:14:26] has changed, that is, ballistic missiles are actually, again, you need [00:14:30] to understand that this is a complex topic, [00:14:34] as soon as Ukraine develops and begins mass production of ballistic [00:14:37] missiles, we will be the first in Europe to [00:14:41] produce operational-tactical ballistic [00:14:44] missiles, no one in Europe produces them, that's [00:14:47] just the reality of the world, that is, when [00:14:51] we whine, complain... [00:14:55] perhaps blame our designers, developers, [00:14:58] no matter who, and where, well, [00:15:01] in fact, you just need to understand that it is difficult, really difficult, and all [00:15:05] of Europe, starting from Portugal, ending [00:15:09] with, if we take the European segment of NATO, there is Great Britain, there is Poland [00:15:12] and everything else, all these countries, there are no ballistic [00:15:15] missiles, just as a class, everything that exists is [00:15:19] intercontinental ballistic missiles in homeopathic quantities in [00:15:23] France, but these missiles are designed for nuclear submarines and are supposed to carry [00:15:26] nuclear warheads, their use will only come when [00:15:30] France no longer exists, that is, this is not a weapon for [00:15:34] such a war as now with the Russian Federation, and... [00:15:37] the same France, which, by the way, had an excellent project [00:15:41] of operational-analytical missile systems, [00:15:44] "Ait", unfortunately, I can't say how it is pronounced in French, but [00:15:48] the example is exactly that, so they burned them in the [00:15:51] 90s, and they did not develop [00:15:55] anything new, and now they are only creating a medium-range ballistic [00:15:59] missile, well, obviously for a nuclear warhead, and this will be created [00:16:02] somewhere in the 2030s, uh-huh, [00:16:06] why can't we. [00:16:17] when we read about these Korean or Iranian missiles, we [00:16:20] face the fact that this is always a reworking of some [00:16:23] old enough Soviet or Soviet [00:16:26] missile, why can't we go this way, [00:16:29] for example, I don't know, get just blueprints, conditionally [00:16:33] speaking, of that missile that the French cut up, as you say, for scrap metal [00:16:36] and... just launch it, rethink, [00:16:40] restore this production, this is the first and second question, of course, regarding [00:16:44] this Korean threat, we probably saw the Reuters [00:16:48] publication that 120 ballistic missiles could be deployed [00:16:51] on the border with operators from North [00:16:54] Korea, [00:16:57] well, I strongly disagree with the thesis regarding old [00:17:01] Soviet developments, the thing is that if we are talking about the same [00:17:04] KN-23s that were already used against Ukraine, [00:17:08] then this is Iskander, [00:17:12] based on technologies available to the DPRK, on a technological [00:17:15] base that is available, which is [00:17:19] very far behind what the Russian Federation can do, so [00:17:23] the KN-23s are much less accurate, and even [00:17:27] the direct participation of Russian specialists did [00:17:30] not help, given the data regarding the accuracy of their [00:17:32] hits, and even these new missiles, [00:17:35] new ones that were produced under a new [00:17:39] order, so, well, KN-23 is definitely not [00:17:43] pro-Soviet, it is specifically about [00:17:47] using Iskander technology, [00:17:50] regarding Iranian, [00:17:53] then, well, here we must remember that [00:17:56] Iran is a country that, [00:17:59] well, is a bit large, let's say, to put it mildly, a country [00:18:03] that [00:18:05] had both a strategic program for the creation [00:18:09] of ballistic weapons, and also received help [00:18:13] from the DPRK at one time, [00:18:15] after the collapse of the Soviet Union, I am sure directly [00:18:19] from Russian specialists who helped them a lot, back [00:18:23] in the 90s, 00s, 10s, [00:18:26] and now even Americans complain that their [00:18:30] missiles began to break through Patriot more often, and [00:18:34] somehow the same thing happened with Iskander. [00:18:38] That is, the direct participation of Russian specialists in the modernization of Iranian [00:18:42] missiles, well, I would say, is highly [00:18:45] probable, therefore, [00:18:48] therefore, that's it, the question is why, for example, Ukraine does not have it, well, because it should [00:18:52] be and should have been a national strategic [00:18:55] program that would involve investing [00:18:58] huge funds, it would last approximately [00:19:02] 10 years, with maximum assistance, that is, we need [00:19:05] to go back to about 2016, at least, [00:19:09] in order to have it today, and it is desirable to go back to about 2012, [00:19:12] and you need to understand that yes, [00:19:16] many, many did not want Ukraine [00:19:20] to get ballistic missiles, just as at one [00:19:22] time in Europe, why are there no ballistic missiles in Europe, this [00:19:26] is a very interesting, by the way, question, and the answer to it [00:19:29] lies in the question of why the US took away the [00:19:33] Pershing missiles from the German army, which were part of [00:19:36] the Bundeswehr in the 90s, very little time left, [00:19:39] finally, if you can briefly comment, I saw that in [00:19:42] an interview with Dmytro Gordon, [00:19:46] Mr. Shtilerman [00:19:48] said that this Russian analogue of [00:19:51] Starlink, this "Rassvet" satellite system is not [00:19:55] a great threat, since they are quite easy to [00:19:57] shoot down, [00:20:00] the Firepoint company, if I am sure that [00:20:03] if the general designer of the company, [00:20:07] the chief designer of the Fairpoint company knows [00:20:11] and can make means to [00:20:14] shoot down a target that moves at a speed of approximately [00:20:17] 7.5 km / second at an altitude of over [00:20:20] 500 km, then creating a ballistic missile FP7 [00:20:24] for destruction and counter-battery combat with Iskander is [00:20:28] a simple task for him. We will hope. Thank you [00:20:31] for the conversation and this answer. Oleg Katkov, editor-in-chief of Defens [00:20:35] Express, was with us. [00:20:37] Well, and now we will continue the military theme, and also, [00:20:41] how can we actually help [00:20:44] the army's military-industrial complex to [00:20:47] finally get the necessary [00:20:51] weapons, in particular, I remind you that back in 2014 we had [00:20:54] promises and President Zelensky said that the president and [00:20:57] then-Prime Minister [00:20:59] Shmyhal said that we would have [00:21:02] 300 missiles produced by the end of 2025, [00:21:06] during 2025. We know that this did not happen, unfortunately. [00:21:09] unfortunately. [00:21:15] Every morning I start not with joy, but with a feeling of [00:21:18] discomfort. 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We have already covered half a year, [00:26:19] and perhaps interim results can be made, [00:26:23] because, you know, even if we take the cost of 3 [00:26:26] million dollars, which is the average estimated cost of a Russian ballistic missile, then even if we [00:26:30] consider that only half of this [00:26:34] figure, say, 18 billion, would have been spent on this, then it [00:26:38] would have meant, let's count, how many 600 [00:26:41] ballistic missiles, I think that not much would have been left of Russia at this rate. Why [00:26:45] hasn't this happened yet? Let's try to talk about it with [00:26:48] Ilya Neskhodovsky, a serviceman of the 24th separate mechanized brigade, [00:26:52] a freelance expert of the National Interests Protection Network, [00:26:55] Anz. Hello, [00:26:58] Mr. Panel. Hello, everyone, [00:27:02] well, I'll go back to this question again, in your [00:27:06] opinion, why was it not possible to produce [00:27:09] 3000 missiles in 2025, and what needs to be [00:27:12] done, what conclusions can be drawn in order for this to succeed this [00:27:16] year, or at least next year? [00:27:19] Well, first of all, [00:27:23] I will say that [00:27:26] I did not express myself, I do not know at what stage those or [00:27:29] other times were, but of course, well... the logic, [00:27:33] it basically gives such an answer [00:27:37] that Ukraine had missile developments, and these [00:27:40] missile developments, they were quite promising, which [00:27:44] passed certain tests. We [00:27:47] had a sufficiently powerful design [00:27:49] potential, and by investing in this [00:27:53] direction, because these people were without [00:27:57] money, without work, without state orders, [00:28:00] and as a result... yes, well, [00:28:03] and the matter did not move, [00:28:07] but for some reasons, although we [00:28:09] guess for what reasons, the bet was made [00:28:12] on the development from [00:28:15] scratch, and this development of missiles from [00:28:19] scratch, that is, led to the fact that this [00:28:22] process objectively [00:28:26] takes a sufficiently long time. There are many [00:28:29] statements by the chief designer. The well-known lady, who [00:28:32] promises to hit Moscow, and hit there for [00:28:36] 1000 km and everything else, but [00:28:39] so far these are only statements, only a few [00:28:43] hits we can observe and confirm that [00:28:46] it was indeed carried out by firepoint [00:28:49] missiles, others, accordingly, the number of hits is sufficiently [00:28:53] low, that is, the statements clearly diverge from [00:28:56] the actual result, so the process is delayed because [00:28:59] for some reasons the bet was made on a new [00:29:03] development. The fact that this manufacturer indeed makes [00:29:06] sufficiently effective [00:29:10] drones, which have appropriate [00:29:12] effects, which indeed inflict significant [00:29:15] damage on the enemy, is indisputable, but these [00:29:18] are completely different technologies, [00:29:21] comparing missiles and comparing [00:29:24] drones, well, I don't even know how this can be [00:29:28] compared, they have... Yes, because missiles are quite complex, it's not [00:29:43] just launching and flying, what he said in one interview, [00:29:47] that launching and flying was already known to [00:29:49] the Germans in World War II, that's true, [00:29:53] that is, it was known back then, [00:29:56] but now it's also a matter of guidance, and a matter of [00:30:00] maneuvering, and a matter of target [00:30:03] setting, these are all [00:30:07] quite complex technological [00:30:10] parts, and therefore comparing them or transferring them, [00:30:13] for example, with drones, well, it just doesn't [00:30:16] work out, so we are accordingly waiting for [00:30:20] these millions of promises to turn into at least [00:30:23] 10% real [00:30:26] hitting results, in my opinion, this was one of [00:30:29] the reasons, if we're talking about a certain political structure, [00:30:33] because the Minister of Defense Fedorov, accordingly, [00:30:37] who is now in resignation, introduced [00:30:39] into the system an assessment not by promises, but by [00:30:43] results, accordingly, and the [00:30:46] agreements that the Ministry of [00:30:49] Defense was making changed significantly, [00:30:52] and as a result, many people did not [00:30:56] like this, that is, big money became the reason for this resignation.