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[00:00:30] just interceptor missiles, in your opinion, we
[00:00:34] have not seen any statements from NATO, nor from the NATO Secretary General, we have not
[00:00:37] seen any statements from the leaders of the coalition
[00:00:40] willing, and how would you comment on this silence, because
[00:00:43] silence is also a communiqué,
[00:00:47] well, of course, it's a big problem, I think that both the
[00:00:50] NATO Secretary General and, of course, the leaders of our European
[00:00:54] allies, other allies, know about it, but the problem is
[00:00:57] what they can do with this... problem,
[00:01:01] because there is this Pearl mechanism, through which
[00:01:05] interceptors for Patriot missiles are transferred
[00:01:09] to us, which European allies buy from the United States, I
[00:01:13] know that the Secretary General, in principle, NATO is actively working on
[00:01:16] this program, but the question is whether there are enough
[00:01:19] interceptors right now that can basically be bought and
[00:01:23] that can be transferred to Ukraine, because
[00:01:26] of course Donald Trump denies that there is a deficit
[00:01:30] in the United States, but we see, in principle, by
[00:01:34] what is happening, that this is indeed the case, we see in what
[00:01:37] quantities these interceptors were used
[00:01:40] in the Middle East, and we understand
[00:01:44] that indeed there are fewer and fewer of them, and countries
[00:01:48] are less willing to share them,
[00:01:51] so I think that, of course, there will still be
[00:01:54] some attempts from our European partners
[00:01:58] to find some solutions.
[00:02:00] but these are isolated steps, because,
[00:02:04] for example, 126 ballistic missiles were sent
[00:02:07] by Russia, strikes on Ukraine,
[00:02:11] if we are talking about interceptors, we need
[00:02:14] at least two for each of these missiles, that is, we are talking about more than
[00:02:18] 250 interceptors that we need per
[00:02:21] month, and preferably more, there is no
[00:02:24] assistance of such scale, because it must be
[00:02:27] understood that when partners provided us with... Magu, that's
[00:02:31] 5, 10 interceptors,
[00:02:33] 30 interceptors at once, that is, it's not
[00:02:37] on the scale that Ukraine needs
[00:02:39] it now, and of course,
[00:02:42] production is also not on that scale, so,
[00:02:46] of course, I think our partners will
[00:02:49] try to find solutions, but we are also trying now
[00:02:53] to launch this program together with European
[00:02:57] partners, the anti-ballistic Freya program, but this... this
[00:03:00] is long-term, long, and our expert Valeriy Romanenko just spoke about it, that
[00:03:04] Freya, if it appears in 2028, it will be a great
[00:03:08] success, and in fact, on the eve, Volodymyr Zelenskyy spoke with the NATO Secretary General,
[00:03:11] and Mark Rutte promised that he would
[00:03:14] work with allies, they understand the problem that we
[00:03:18] have nothing to protect our peaceful places, cities, but
[00:03:22] here the question is also in something else, Volodymyr Zelenskyy said that
[00:03:25] Patriot missiles can become such
[00:03:29] a factor of political pressure on Kyiv during
[00:03:32] negotiations, do you see any signs or prerequisites for that to
[00:03:36] happen? Yes, unfortunately, unfortunately, I do,
[00:03:38] because, firstly, we see that
[00:03:42] Russia is increasing the production of ballistic missiles,
[00:03:45] and we also see signals that Russia
[00:03:49] is now receiving supplies of ballistic missiles from North
[00:03:52] Korea, we are talking about 40 additional ones now, and this
[00:03:56] support should be increased, well, from the
[00:03:59] side of North Korea to 120
[00:04:02] missiles, that is, again, we are talking about large numbers,
[00:04:05] these are missiles that can cause a lot of damage to us,
[00:04:09] and this is,
[00:04:11] let's say, our weak point, which
[00:04:15] Russia will use, we see that from month to month
[00:04:19] they are building up these capabilities,
[00:04:21] realizing that there is indeed simply no physical
[00:04:25] possibility for Ukraine to receive these interceptors in such
[00:04:28] quantities from... Of course, we, I hope that we will have
[00:04:32] certain capabilities, at least to intercept some of these
[00:04:35] ballistic missiles selectively, but not
[00:04:39] on this scale, and if we talk about entering
[00:04:42] autumn, then winter, then this can really
[00:04:46] become that element of pressure that
[00:04:50] Russia will use, because they practically have no other elements of pressure
[00:04:53] on Ukraine, this is the only such weak point
[00:04:57] that they will, that they will use. But
[00:05:01] President Zelenskyy said
[00:05:04] that Western partners have
[00:05:08] missiles, Pact 3,
[00:05:10] in warehouses, but
[00:05:12] in that case, why don't these partners provide them to
[00:05:15] Ukraine? Yes, Western partners have them,
[00:05:19] in principle, they are
[00:05:22] in different parts of the world, they are, of course, in the United States, as we
[00:05:26] mentioned, they are in
[00:05:29] the countries of the Middle East, the Persian Gulf,
[00:05:33] they are in the countries of the Indo-Pacific, the Pacific
[00:05:37] Ocean, the Pacific region, and they are
[00:05:40] European partners, but, well... among them, European partners are those
[00:05:44] who can still support us,
[00:05:48] but here the problem is in quantities, as
[00:05:51] I said, that simply, well,
[00:05:55] some partners do not have them in the quantities that we would need,
[00:05:59] uh, that is, countries can probably
[00:06:02] provide some 5-10
[00:06:04] interceptors, but again, over these
[00:06:08] years, their certain
[00:06:11] resources are also running out. For example, the Netherlands recently stated
[00:06:14] in July that they simply exhausted all capabilities
[00:06:18] to provide, and therefore, another problem, as we
[00:06:22] mentioned, is that hybrid attacks against European
[00:06:24] countries are also intensifying, and therefore they will also
[00:06:28] want to keep these reserves for themselves, and here
[00:06:32] the question, of course, is what is a priority, well, in my opinion,
[00:06:35] of course, helping Ukraine now is more important,
[00:06:38] but for politicians of certain countries, the decision to hold back these...
[00:06:42] for themselves may be more
[00:06:45] important for their society, how to explain
[00:06:49] that we are giving away, well, as it were, resources that are already running out, here
[00:06:52] there is also the problem of the production of new,
[00:06:56] new interceptors, because, for example, there is a program
[00:06:59] under which European partners give their own, and
[00:07:02] then receive guarantees that they will be higher in the queue for
[00:07:06] receiving new products from the United States, but
[00:07:10] if now the production from the United States is about 50
[00:07:13] Patriot 3 missiles per month,
[00:07:17] that is, until the scale of this
[00:07:20] production grows, countries will also be afraid that they will not receive
[00:07:24] them in time, because they are already waiting for several years, so, well,
[00:07:27] of course, this is a political decision, and I hope that European partners
[00:07:31] understand that Ukraine's security is their security, and
[00:07:35] that Ukraine needs to be helped now, because
[00:07:38] well, this could be a threat to them in the future, however,
[00:07:42] this... it's always a question of what is one's own security for
[00:07:45] individual countries, well, and indeed, the fact that Russia
[00:07:48] deepens, intensifies hybrid attacks on European countries,
[00:07:52] this also makes them think about the need to save more
[00:07:55] weapons, perhaps for themselves, in order to have
[00:07:58] something to defend themselves with in case of anything. Thank you for this conversation, Iryna
[00:08:02] Krasnoshtan, program, program director of the International
[00:08:05] Center for Ukrainian Victory, expert on Ukraine-NATO issues, former
[00:08:09] political politician, NATO representation in Ukraine.
[00:08:12] Thank you, thank you.
[00:08:16] New to politics, firm in his decisions and sensitive to historical
[00:08:19] themes. Such words can describe the current President of Poland
[00:08:22] Karol Nawrodski. Exactly one year ago, after winning the presidential
[00:08:26] elections, he took the oath to the nation. What did the
[00:08:30] leader of the neighboring country remember during this period? See in the next
[00:08:33] material.
[00:08:40] August 6, 2025.
[00:09:28] an independent candidate supported by the Law and Justice party won the
[00:09:32] second round of elections in June 2025. Before
[00:09:36] entering politics, he headed the Institute of National
[00:09:38] Remembrance, and conducted his campaign under the slogan "Poland First."
[00:09:58] stated a tough stance towards Kyiv, advocated for limiting
[00:10:01] social support for war migrants and questioned
[00:10:04] the Euro-Atlantic prospects of our
[00:10:07] state. As of now, I do not see
[00:10:11] Ukraine as a member.
[00:10:21] Cannot be part of international alliances.
[00:10:25] did not do without public scandals surrounding his person, and
[00:10:28] the media wrote about his ties with football fans and accused
[00:10:31] him of working for a security company that allegedly accompanied
[00:10:35] prostitutes. Nawrocki himself called everything
[00:10:37] slander.
[00:10:41] After taking office, he began to fulfill his promises. In
[00:10:44] August 2025, he vetoed amendments to the law
[00:10:48] that provided for social payments for children 800+ and
[00:10:51] the extension of temporary protection for Ukrainians. Instead.
[00:10:55] he proposed to link aid to employment and
[00:10:58] mandatory schooling for children, during Volodymyr Zelenskyy's visit
[00:11:01] to Warsaw in December, he reproached the Ukrainian authorities
[00:11:05] for ingratitude, which once again earned him public favor.
[00:11:09] However, how Nawrocki intends to stand guard
[00:11:12] over the state's security became known in March 2026.
[00:11:16] The President vetoed the European Defense Loan program, SAFE. Later,
[00:11:20] the streets of Poland were flooded with protests, and the government had to... look for plan
[00:11:23] B.
[00:11:25] б.
[00:11:31] In total, during the first year of his term, the Polish president blocked a record
[00:11:35] number of laws - 41, and also stripped Volodymyr
[00:11:38] Zelenskyy of the Order of the White Eagle. The leaders managed to
[00:11:41] talk face-to-face again during the NATO summit in Ankara. However,
[00:11:45] regarding historical issues, according to Nawrocki himself,
[00:11:48] they failed to reach an agreement. I will add that despite
[00:11:51] waves of tension in Polish-Ukrainian relations, Nawrocki's position
[00:11:55] on Russia's war against Ukraine remains unchanged, he calls Putin
[00:11:59] a threat to Europe and calls for pressure on Moscow, and among
[00:12:02] the priorities of his first year in office are strengthening
[00:12:06] Poland's security, adjusting policy towards Ukraine,
[00:12:09] regional cooperation, and aspirations for permanent membership
[00:12:12] in the G20. On July 29, sociologists
[00:12:16] Ibris conducted a survey, according to which the current president
[00:12:20] is trusted by over 51%
[00:12:22] of respondents. Yulia Hunko, Slava.
[00:13:56] Institute of History, this is of great importance in
[00:14:00] our relations with Ukraine, and tension is
[00:14:03] associated with it, so he should think about the main
[00:14:07] role of the president, which,
[00:14:10] and this is the supremacy over the armed
[00:14:13] forces of Poland and the representation of Poland, that is, one should
[00:14:16] expect from him a policy that leads to
[00:14:20] the enhancement of security, and here the role of cooperation with
[00:14:23] Ukraine is very important.
[00:14:55] That is, I attribute this to his
[00:14:57] presidency, nevertheless, he should be given
[00:15:00] credit, well, considering the factors
[00:15:04] you listed in Polish-Ukrainian
[00:15:07] cooperation, we know that Poland was and
[00:15:10] remains the main military,
[00:15:13] logistical partner of Ukraine, a lot has been done over these years
[00:15:17] in the issue of joint,
[00:15:20] resolving joint defense issues, well, but we actually see that
[00:15:23] historical issues have been hindering us lately, and according to
[00:15:26] the Opińia-24 survey,
[00:15:29] 44% of Poles said that resolving historical
[00:15:32] issues could become an obstacle to precisely continuing
[00:15:35] military assistance to Ukraine.
[00:15:38] How do you think, will this topic of historical memory
[00:15:41] become a factor that will affect our security
[00:15:45] cooperation?
[00:15:49] This memory affects it, because cooperation is not at the level it
[00:15:53] could be, but it seems to me that
[00:15:56] the latest statements from Zelenskyy,
[00:15:59] the president and
[00:16:03] the president of the Institute of Memory, indicate
[00:16:06] that...
[00:16:37] historical relations will not be
[00:16:40] dominant, and I think this debate will
[00:16:43] continue among publicists,
[00:16:47] writers, politicians, because it's
[00:16:50] always like that, but I think that this priority is military
[00:16:54] cooperation, support for Ukraine in
[00:16:57] the war, a just war on the part
[00:17:01] of Ukraine, to
[00:17:04] push back the Russian aggressor, and that is the priority.
[00:17:31] and nothing came of it, for now we see that some
[00:17:35] negotiations are underway, we, of course, do not...
[00:18:08] we need to talk about access to
[00:18:11] drone technology, but it's very
[00:18:15] hard to measure what this value is for Ukraine and
[00:18:18] President Zelenskyy, this know-how, this
[00:18:22] knowledge, and other countries are also cooperating, American
[00:18:26] companies are also working with Ukraine in
[00:18:28] that,
[00:18:30] and we don't need to talk about the fact that we
[00:18:34] need to change this technology for...
[00:19:27] and if we're talking about cooperation, it doesn't look like what the potential could indicate, there will be
[00:19:31] such an understanding between Poland and
[00:19:35] Ukraine, and we...
[00:19:46] Here I also see a certain danger, because Ukraine needs access to
[00:19:50] Patriot technologies. President Trump announced
[00:19:53] that he thought,
[00:19:57] thought about providing such access. Now
[00:20:00] he doesn't know, it's not
[00:20:03] 100% help. Poland is also trying.
[00:21:20] and yes, yes, no, maybe, maybe no, ah, no, and
[00:21:23] then we return to the fact,
[00:21:26] yes, maybe no, maybe yes, maybe
[00:21:28] no,
[00:21:31] Madam Minister said that she is ready, that Poland is ready to participate
[00:21:34] in the Patriot program, production, manufacturing, but I am not
[00:21:37] convinced whether this was,
[00:21:41] or whether this was discussed with Ukraine, this should be a joint initiative, not
[00:21:45] at the level of deputy ministers, but presidents or
[00:21:48] the government, and...
[00:21:50] it seems that there is no such thing, because the questions were
[00:21:54] already raised, you offered something, there was
[00:21:58] such a proposal, but whether this has been clarified, whether it
[00:22:01] has been formally clarified, Ukraine had
[00:22:03] it, they received
[00:22:06] such a promise from
[00:22:10] Trump that they would receive Patriots, this is
[00:22:12] Ukraine, uses
[00:22:14] these,
[00:22:18] these missiles. I think that
[00:22:22] Poland is still a
[00:22:26] state at peace, this is
[00:22:29] such, let's say, competition between Poland and
[00:22:32] Ukraine, this does not serve,
[00:22:35] this does not benefit either Poland or Ukraine, I return to your first
[00:22:38] question, that a year
[00:22:39] after the beginning
[00:22:43] of Karol Nawrodski's presidency, there is still no such
[00:22:47] cooperation, and these disputes that arose between our
[00:22:50] countries, they hinder
[00:22:53] the creation of such proposals between our states, I believe that we
[00:22:57] are losing a lot, that we are not cooperating with
[00:23:00] Ukraine in the military sphere, that we are not present, that
[00:23:04] we do not use
[00:23:07] Ukraine's experience, what other countries are doing, well, and we see that
[00:23:11] Russian missiles, which fly over Ukraine into the territory
[00:23:14] of Poland, they are not shot down by either the Ukrainian side, because we
[00:23:18] have nothing to do it with, and Poland, being under the law of peacetime,
[00:23:22] also does not shoot them down yet, and here the question is whether the
[00:23:26] Polish leadership is ready to consider the issue of at least partial
[00:23:29] closure of at least the western regions of Ukraine, in order
[00:23:32] to still secure these logistical
[00:23:35] routes, border infrastructure from Russian
[00:23:38] attacks.
[00:23:41] I think that going outside
[00:23:45] NATO territory is not politically acceptable,
[00:23:48] permissible, even. Missiles
[00:24:50] all over the world, this situation is very bad, there will be no
[00:24:53] political decision of such will, for example, in Poland, to
[00:24:57] transfer, for example,
[00:25:00] large amounts of such missiles,
[00:25:04] we need to move towards
[00:25:07] resuming production, and this takes a lot of time, thank you very much for this
[00:25:11] conversation, Jacek Czaputowicz, former Minister of Foreign Affairs
[00:25:14] of Poland was a guest of Ukrainian Focus,
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