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[00:00:00] in any city, at any time, just
[00:00:03] go to the website and report it, and we
[00:00:06] will launch all possible mechanisms to punish
[00:00:09] the criminal. Stopcrime
[00:00:11] ua.
[00:00:18] New tactics of food terror.
[00:00:22] What are the Russians trying to achieve?
[00:00:25] Escalation, panic, what
[00:00:28] scares Ukrainians is real, and what
[00:00:30] is Russian
[00:00:32] propaganda?
[00:00:35] Voice of America resumes broadcasting in Ukrainian.
[00:00:39] Why is this important?
[00:00:56] Greetings, this is the main news, my name is Andriy Sachuk and we... with you and
[00:01:00] our experts will now analyze the main events of today.
[00:01:04] Today's topic of our survey, which we address to our
[00:01:07] viewers, sounds like this: will Ukraine cope with the consequences of Russian attacks
[00:01:11] on food infrastructure? And
[00:01:14] the answer options are: yes, I believe in Ukrainian business, there will be no crisis;
[00:01:17] I am afraid of a crisis, so I am stocking up on products; it doesn't matter, I have a village and
[00:01:21] I won't die of hunger. This is such a story, we will also
[00:01:25] find out the opinion of the business itself,
[00:01:28] big business, which is suffering more now from the latest
[00:01:31] attacks, if I can put it that way, well, and by the way, I would like to remind you that
[00:01:35] we had very serious attacks,
[00:01:39] serious attacks were on the warehouses of large
[00:01:43] retail chains, what will be the consequences of these
[00:01:46] attacks, we will also talk about this now,
[00:01:49] I remind you that during yesterday's
[00:01:53] massive attack
[00:01:56] on the capital of Ukraine,
[00:01:58] first of all, as well as in the Kyiv
[00:02:02] region, the warehouses of several Ukrainian and foreign
[00:02:06] companies were damaged, including Rozetka, Epicenter, Nova
[00:02:10] Poshta, Silpo, Novus, and also foreign companies such as
[00:02:12] Bosch, Puma, which have already warned that there will be problems with the supply of
[00:02:16] ordered products to Ukraine, and in fact, how business intends to react
[00:02:20] to these challenges, we will talk about now, Yuliia Chudnovets,
[00:02:23] PR director of the Epicenter company, is joining us, Ms. Yuliia, greetings to you.
[00:02:26] Greetings, greetings,
[00:02:31] first of all, let me express my condolences in connection
[00:02:35] with the fact that a person died yesterday, one of the Epicenter employees,
[00:02:39] and you also have three wounded, how are they doing, by the way?
[00:02:43] They are in the hospital, we are in contact with them, the company has fully
[00:02:46] taken over the provision of assistance to
[00:02:50] families, and the director of the logistics center
[00:02:53] constantly keeps in touch with the victims,
[00:02:56] regarding this strike now, which was last night, in particular, this is not
[00:03:00] the first strike on Epicenter, they were there almost from the first
[00:03:04] days, you can say, of the war, nevertheless, is it even possible to prepare for this?
[00:03:07] it is unlikely that one can prepare for such strikes, despite the fact that
[00:03:10] since the beginning of the war we have lost 10 shopping
[00:03:14] centers, 13 shopping centers were damaged, of course,
[00:03:18] this strike on logistics,
[00:03:22] so, now we will try to restore, I will only
[00:03:25] say, if you allow me, my
[00:03:32] last purchase in still peaceful Ukraine,
[00:03:36] was exactly at Epicenter, which burned down
[00:03:39] in Bucha about a week or two later,
[00:03:42] I just had a gift certificate there,
[00:03:46] and I decided to spend it, I bought something for the kitchen
[00:03:49] and that was the last more or less big purchase
[00:03:53] before the Russian invasion. And then this Epicenter, if I had
[00:03:56] known, although there were warnings, and I,
[00:04:00] I confess, had such a thought, such a sad thought,
[00:04:03] whether I was in this Epicenter for the last time, and this Epicenter burned down, it was the largest
[00:04:06] in the Kyiv region, in Bucha, and now these stories are repeating themselves,
[00:04:10] Ms. Yuliia Chudnovets, PR director of
[00:04:14] Epicenter company, is returning to us, Ms. Yuliia, welcome
[00:04:18] back, we will continue
[00:04:21] the question, whether it is possible to prepare for this, and by the way, what will happen
[00:04:25] to those people who managed to make some orders for the goods that
[00:04:28] were destroyed in the warehouses as a result of these technical strikes, I know for sure that
[00:04:32] there are such people, they have already received rejections, and they do not receive
[00:04:36] their goods.
[00:04:39] Look, no, there is no such story that there will be a complete refusal,
[00:04:43] and how the Epicenter website works is a
[00:04:46] marketplace, suppliers register there, who directly through
[00:04:50] our platform sell their goods, all goods that
[00:04:53] Epicenter provides on the website, there is a mark "goods from
[00:04:56] Epicenter", and... all these goods will be
[00:05:00] provided in full, because the supply will be provided from our shopping
[00:05:03] centers, that is, despite the fact that we have lost
[00:05:07] logistics, we have other
[00:05:10] opportunities. goods from shopping
[00:05:13] centers, which we, with which we can close our online orders,
[00:05:16] of course, if it is a small
[00:05:20] producer or dealer, if he lost his
[00:05:23] goods, of course he will have to refuse, because he will not be able to replenish
[00:05:27] his inventory so quickly, but
[00:05:30] this will not affect the company's operations as a whole,
[00:05:34] because we have a widespread network throughout Ukraine,
[00:05:37] and currently we are doing everything so that our customers do not
[00:05:41] feel this painful blow, which was
[00:05:44] painful precisely for us. Advisor to President Serhiy
[00:05:47] Beskresnov said that he calls on all people
[00:05:51] who will visit Epicenter next time, and an air raid siren goes off,
[00:05:54] as well as other hypermarkets
[00:05:57] to immediately leave the premises and
[00:06:01] be in shelters, so how do you generally feel about such
[00:06:04] announcements, whether they will not harm business in general
[00:06:08] customer sentiment, and secondly, is there always
[00:06:11] somewhere to go? What to hide?
[00:06:15] You know, it's very good that there is the vision of the President's advisors and
[00:06:19] there is the vision of the people of Ukraine, and this is often a very different
[00:06:22] vision, because, of course, we have
[00:06:25] air raid alerts, we are all aware, just as no one
[00:06:29] forces us out of our apartments, we must understand that we must
[00:06:33] leave shopping centers, in the fifth year
[00:06:36] of the war, receiving an air raid signal, we understand that we
[00:06:39] must leave, this is the safety of our lives, and... as
[00:06:43] for people, you know, we received completely different feedback,
[00:06:46] completely different feedback, we received millions, just
[00:06:49] messages, from ordinary buyers, tags on
[00:06:52] social networks, videos where people filmed and said: you know, I didn't need anything
[00:06:56] at Epicenter, I went and bought something to support you,
[00:07:00] because I understand how difficult it is for you, we would like to receive such a
[00:07:03] signal from the authorities as well, listen, you are hanging by
[00:07:07] the last thread here, what can we do for you to make you
[00:07:11] feel better? This
[00:07:13] would be good, but we absolutely received this
[00:07:17] from our buyers, from
[00:07:20] people who treated us with extraordinary
[00:07:23] warmth, who supported us very much, and believe me,
[00:07:27] for business that is reborn despite
[00:07:30] the destruction, that has been fighting all this time, this is important,
[00:07:34] it is important for it to hear this, it is important to feel that it
[00:07:37] is needed, because despite the fact that we have lost 10
[00:07:41] shopping centers, we have built
[00:07:44] four, one of them is huge, the largest in the
[00:07:48] network during the war, and I believe that this also
[00:07:52] says, you know, not about money, because building during the war,
[00:07:56] it's not entirely about money, it's about how
[00:07:59] we believe in Ukraine, what are the ways to make
[00:08:03] warehouses, storage facilities,
[00:08:07] and even the centers themselves, such as Epicenter,
[00:08:10] less vulnerable to enemy attacks,
[00:08:12] are there any developments here, I saw that you
[00:08:16] are temporarily moving, for example, tile production abroad,
[00:08:19] maybe some part of logistics can be moved abroad,
[00:08:23] after all, if the products still, for example,
[00:08:26] travel from Kyiv to Uzhgorod 800 km,
[00:08:30] can it not then travel, for example, from Poland to Kyiv 800
[00:08:34] km?
[00:08:37] You know, many businesses, not just us, started to diversify their logistics
[00:08:40] at the beginning of the war.
[00:08:43] And therefore, of course, for all of us, this is a huge
[00:08:47] loss, but I think that neither we nor anyone
[00:08:51] in the market will stop, because we are already prepared for
[00:08:54] this story. Uh-huh, is there
[00:08:57] a connection?
[00:08:59] Yes, we have been prepared for this story since the very beginning
[00:09:02] of the war, and of course we
[00:09:04] have
[00:09:06] rebuilt,
[00:09:11] yes, again. We lost connection, I'll add from myself that
[00:09:14] I noticed that there are, for example, such things as now pickup points, which can be
[00:09:18] scattered, and you can order something online and
[00:09:22] pick it up there, you don't necessarily have to go to a huge
[00:09:25] Epicenter for this, but now our interviewee is returning to us,
[00:09:28] Ms. Yuliia,
[00:09:29] Ms. Yuliia, do you hear us
[00:09:32] or is it, yes, yes, I hear you, yes, you actually
[00:09:36] stopped at the fact that you prepared for this in advance and are taking steps
[00:09:39] in this direction to diversify these risks.
[00:09:43] Yes, that's right, and
[00:09:46] we, and, not only us, all big
[00:09:49] business,
[00:09:50] something, something, something is just
[00:09:57] happening with our connection, it's very difficult, and I still had a question, what
[00:10:01] actually, how does it affect, if suddenly
[00:10:04] we manage to establish a connection for one more iteration,
[00:10:07] I still had a question about whether the blockade of
[00:10:11] Black Sea ports currently affects
[00:10:14] Epicenter's operations as well, in particular, for example, I understand
[00:10:17] that a large part of the assortment, especially
[00:10:21] building materials, consists of Chinese goods. What will happen
[00:10:24] to them now, if Ms. Yuliia is with us, I would ask her to
[00:10:27] comment on this question. I hear you, do you hear me?
[00:10:31] Yes, I hear you, I'm asking about the blockade of Black Sea ports now,
[00:10:35] how much it affects, well, in particular, a lot of Chinese, I heard your
[00:10:38] question, uh-huh, and look, since the beginning
[00:10:41] of the war, we have greatly revised our imports and
[00:10:45] reduced them as much as possible, that is, now we mostly
[00:10:48] sell Ukrainian products, we only have in imports
[00:10:52] what is really not produced in Ukraine,
[00:10:56] yes, and this is not such a large quantity, quantity of
[00:10:59] goods, that is, almost all the imported goods that we have in
[00:11:03] the network, are replaced by Ukrainian goods, that is, a
[00:11:06] person will not feel this on themselves, that is, they
[00:11:10] can come and instead of five
[00:11:13] varieties of one product, find two, and three of them,
[00:11:16] for example, imported, they will not see, but they will still see
[00:11:19] goods of different price categories from a Ukrainian manufacturer.
[00:11:22] And they will not feel this on themselves, as for
[00:11:26] us, in principle, as for the company's activities, again, with
[00:11:29] logistics, since we also have an agricultural direction,
[00:11:32] we have long ago rebuilt logistical routes for all
[00:11:36] possible cases
[00:11:39] of life, how do you think, in general,
[00:11:43] will business now get out of this
[00:11:46] situation, if I may use such a term, because, well, we
[00:11:49] understand that most likely in the near future such
[00:11:53] attacks on business, ballistic strikes will
[00:11:56] continue?
[00:12:04] Well, unfortunately, okay, never mind, we will raise this
[00:12:07] topic again, discuss it further, we will have,
[00:12:11] by the way, Mr. Serhiy Fursa, we will also talk about business adaptability,
[00:12:14] about how business can, how business can
[00:12:18] respond to such challenges, how it can, figuratively
[00:12:21] speaking, heal its wounds, but what it actually
[00:12:25] needs for this is state assistance,
[00:12:28] non-interference in some state affairs,
[00:12:32] these are all interesting questions too, I don't know, we have already said goodbye to our
[00:12:35] interlocutor, tell me, yes, we said goodbye, Yuliia Chudnovets was
[00:12:38] with us, PR director of Epicenter company, this conversation was not
[00:12:42] easy for us, but we succeeded, and
[00:12:45] we will continue this topic, in fact, Serhiy
[00:12:48] Furtsev, investment banker and
[00:12:51] publicist, joins us, Mr. Serhiy, greetings to you.
[00:12:55] Greetings, we have already started this topic and conversation with Ms. Yulia,
[00:12:59] Chudnovets, PR director of Epicenter company, and
[00:13:01] yesterday we talked, by the way, with the co-owner,
[00:13:04] co-founder of Rozetka, Chichotkin, and in principle,
[00:13:08] business, they met there, we know, with the Prime Minister, with
[00:13:12] the Cabinet of Ministers, and they don't really want, in my opinion,
[00:13:16] to talk about what was discussed there, maybe some topics are secret,
[00:13:19] nevertheless, what do you think the government, the Cabinet, the executive
[00:13:23] power can do now,
[00:13:25] maybe the legislators, to support our business,
[00:13:29] big business, big retail chains,
[00:13:32] which are now suffering from these mirror strikes of the Russians?
[00:13:36] Well, look, first of all, it's not only now
[00:13:39] that business has started to suffer, this has been happening since 2022,
[00:13:43] so talking about some special situation now
[00:13:46] is inappropriate, when we say what the state can do?
[00:13:49] In fact, nothing special can be done, and
[00:13:53] here assistance from the state
[00:13:56] will always, if any, be very, very
[00:13:58] limited, and perhaps it will
[00:14:01] focus on administrative
[00:14:04] aspects in terms of assistance,
[00:14:07] organizational plan,
[00:14:10] what is it about, that one of the decisions that
[00:14:12] was discussed, among other things, at the meeting with the Prime Minister,
[00:14:15] was the removal of certain logistics hubs outside
[00:14:19] Ukraine, large ones, in the framework of cooperation with our
[00:14:22] Western partners and so on, to
[00:14:25] Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, and here the assistance
[00:14:29] of the government for these negotiations might be appropriate.
[00:14:32] Personally, I am also a supporter of mandatory insurance against military
[00:14:36] risk, as it works now with cars, so it should be with
[00:14:40] business, that is, all businesses without exception should
[00:14:44] be obliged to be insured against currency from
[00:14:47] risks. Military, uh-huh, since
[00:14:51] there are many businesses in the country, and only a very limited number of them are affected,
[00:14:55] then in case this happens, these
[00:14:58] businesses would receive assistance at the expense of these solidarity
[00:15:02] contributions from all others, this could
[00:15:06] work and reduce the burden, which
[00:15:08] and losses, Mr. Serhiy, how should such a system
[00:15:12] actually be implemented, that is, it should not then be
[00:15:16] commercial insurance, because commercial insurance companies
[00:15:19] are unlikely to go there.
[00:15:23] Look, why, when
[00:15:25] we are talking about cars, it is commercial insurance, commercial,
[00:15:29] yes, everyone in Ukraine now, car owners
[00:15:32] are insured, and we don't have now the silly situation of the 90s,
[00:15:35] when people beat each other up, but simply if an accident
[00:15:39] happened, everyone is insured, the insurance
[00:15:42] company solves the problem, since everyone
[00:15:45] must be insured, then the risks for the insurance company will be
[00:15:49] limited, because simply by the theory of probability, very few of these
[00:15:52] businesses would suffer, uh-huh, wait,
[00:15:56] but insurance, is this listed as an insured
[00:15:59] event? I don't think so, this is a force majeure issue, I honestly don't
[00:16:03] remember anyone being paid money for a burnt car.
[00:16:08] Look, because these are separate risks, military ones, they are not
[00:16:11] predictable by standard contracts, and we are talking about
[00:16:15] obliging everyone in an mandatory regime, absolutely all
[00:16:19] owners from a kiosk to a large factory, to be insured
[00:16:22] precisely against military risks. Uh-huh, okay, this
[00:16:26] will mean some then additional super-contributions,
[00:16:29] probably, this will be a completely different tariff, but this can be talked about, but it seems
[00:16:33] to me that here only the state would add some guarantees for insurance
[00:16:36] companies. No, the state does not need a guarantee, because again, when
[00:16:40] everyone is insured, uh-huh, then the specific risk
[00:16:43] of a specific insurance company is very limited, uh-huh, okay,
[00:16:46] that is, it's a matter of everyone actually joining this game and developing
[00:16:50] some rules, it's a matter of the state forcing
[00:16:53] all businesses to insure themselves, uh-huh.
[00:16:57] Speaking of the fact that not much has changed, but
[00:17:00] look, well, in fact, someone might say
[00:17:04] that we have serious changes in this war now, because
[00:17:08] in the last six months, Russia launched 280 ballistic
[00:17:11] missiles only at Kyiv, last year for the whole year
[00:17:14] it launched, I don't remember, how many, 100 something,
[00:17:18] I think, so this is, well, this is really
[00:17:20] completely different numbers.
[00:17:23] At Kyiv, right, only at Kyiv.
[00:17:27] Yes, but now they are concentrating strikes on
[00:17:31] Kyiv, if we look at the data from our
[00:17:33] intelligence, has Russia increased the production of ballistic missiles? No, it has
[00:17:37] not increased, so in this way they
[00:17:40] are now putting pressure on our mentality, given that last year
[00:17:44] there was no sense in shelling Kyiv, because Kyiv
[00:17:47] was protected by
[00:17:51] Patriots, they then shelled sparingly, now they
[00:17:54] are shelling more, it's just that before they shelled the entire territory
[00:17:58] of, say, Left-Bank Ukraine, and now they are shelling only
[00:18:01] Kyiv, so to say that
[00:18:05] something... is being singled out to influence
[00:18:07] the economy, well, no, it's not being singled out, because again,
[00:18:10] now changes are happening only for Kyiv first, because
[00:18:14] Kyiv has become on a par with Poltava,
[00:18:17] with Odesa, with Kharkiv, with Kryvyi Rih
[00:18:21] in terms of how ballistic missiles
[00:18:24] can hit it, for all other cities of Ukraine nothing has
[00:18:28] changed, this is key, plus
[00:18:31] given that the Russians have not increased ballistic missile production,
[00:18:34] yes, they sometimes have one-time arrivals from North Korea.
[00:18:38] But they are now escalating and using
[00:18:41] up reserves, which means they will then be forced to take a break,
[00:18:45] simply replenishing these reserves. We already saw this at the beginning
[00:18:49] of the year, when during, it seems, April-May,
[00:18:52] Russia significantly reduced ballistic strikes, simply because they were
[00:18:55] collecting missiles again. So to say that in terms of impact on
[00:18:58] the economy, something else is happening now? No, it's not
[00:19:02] happening, Kyiv just joined other cities of Ukraine, that's all.
[00:19:06] Well, but Kyiv is the capital,
[00:19:08] and I understand that, for example,
[00:19:12] residents of Sumy can say, and do say, that their situation
[00:19:15] has worsened, because more FABs are flying into the city.
[00:19:19] Perhaps something similar can be said in Kherson, but
[00:19:22] given the different business activity of cities,
[00:19:26] is it still the capital, which finds itself in a situation
[00:19:29] where business activity is constantly suppressed by such
[00:19:32] serious shelling, does this not change
[00:19:35] the situation? Look, there is no suppressed
[00:19:39] business activity yet, last year Kyiv
[00:19:42] was not shelled by ballistic missiles, of course, less, but there were a hundred Shaheds per
[00:19:45] night, which reached, there were, there were cruise missiles
[00:19:49] that reached, now there is none of this, and only ballistic missiles
[00:19:52] are left, but the number of hits has hardly
[00:19:55] changed much, again, because last year there were hits from Shaheds, of which there were
[00:19:59] many, and which also affected business and so
[00:20:02] on, when we are talking now about the impact on the economy, then... the impact
[00:20:06] of these strikes and there is no such expectation
[00:20:09] that this will significantly increase anything, there is a problem with ports, and
[00:20:13] there is a result on the impact on the economy, because it restrains
[00:20:16] Ukrainian exports, agricultural exports, metallurgical exports,
[00:20:20] strikes on Kyiv bring nothing new,
[00:20:23] well, except that some consumer sentiments
[00:20:26] may change, because there is some kind of panic wave,
[00:20:30] I see many such desperate posts lately.
[00:20:33] There is a panic wave, which is spread by Russians, but there are no
[00:20:37] preconditions for this panic, so in fact the task of all sober people
[00:20:41] is to say that nothing has changed, there is no reason for panic, because yesterday
[00:20:44] people wrote to me that in... my
[00:20:48] kumuf, in fact, saying that now there will be
[00:20:52] some hyperinflation or hunger, or
[00:20:54] a collapse of banks, for which there are absolutely no preconditions, well, absolutely
[00:20:58] none, but these panic moods are intensified, actively
[00:21:02] fueled by Russians, maybe also against the background of the heat, you know, now the head does not
[00:21:05] hold, but this is an artificial
[00:21:09] panic, but we say that, for example, strikes on
[00:21:12] Wildberries may affect the
[00:21:16] stability of their banking system, I have seen such
[00:21:20] comments from various economists, economic
[00:21:23] experts, many times, because this is cash and so on and
[00:21:26] so forth. Look, strikes on Wildberries do not affect
[00:21:29] the banking system of Russia, not at all, from the point of view
[00:21:33] of tangibility or the emergence of some crisis, both strikes on
[00:21:37] Wildberries from our side, and Russian strikes on our
[00:21:40] companies, do not affect the overall macroeconomic picture,
[00:21:43] well, they are not capable of affecting it.
[00:21:46] Look, if we look at some analogies,
[00:21:50] then we saw the history of
[00:21:52] the Iran-Iraq war, which lasted eight years, and there,
[00:21:56] interestingly, militarny wrote about it today, that they also
[00:22:00] had such an idea for four years, that they would be able to
[00:22:03] somehow break through the defense, then
[00:22:07] Iran thought that we have three times more mobilization reserves,
[00:22:10] now we will crush them with numbers, so they also went through different,
[00:22:14] different stages, and after four years they realized that the front
[00:22:17] was practically more or less static and they started
[00:22:21] destroying each other's large cities, but there
[00:22:25] were slightly different missile reserves, and they did not produce their
[00:22:28] own ballistic missiles then, nevertheless, I mean, does this
[00:22:32] not mean that we are now entering such a stage
[00:22:36] when for the next years we will have such strikes?
[00:22:40] Again, perhaps we will, we
[00:22:43] have had all these strikes for five years in a row, nothing has
[00:22:46] changed, it has changed, if you... Shaheds, cruise missiles and
[00:22:50] ballistic missiles arrive in a certain
[00:22:53] quantity, and now only ballistic missiles arrive in a certain
[00:22:56] comparable quantity, has anything changed for you, the fact that ballistic
[00:23:00] missiles arrive now, and not Shaheds, and not cruise missiles, this
[00:23:03] essentially changes nothing, plus we now need to understand that
[00:23:07] more than half of the territory of Ukraine is generally particularly
[00:23:10] unreachable, when we talk about anything west of Vinnytsia,
[00:23:13] ballistic missiles do not reach there, cruise missiles and
[00:23:17] Shaheds are now shot down very effectively. Thus, again,
[00:23:20] we are not even talking about the territory of all Ukraine, when we talk
[00:23:24] about risks for business or impact or destruction or
[00:23:28] anything, it's the radius of ballistic missiles, and yes,
[00:23:31] now Kyiv has become more sensitive to this, but again,
[00:23:35] this is happening against the background of a reduction in sensitivity to Shaheds and
[00:23:38] and a reduction in sensitivity to cruise missiles,
[00:23:42] nothing special is happening now that should tell us about some
[00:23:46] incomparable destruction. damage to the economy, it's not
[00:23:50] happening, none of this is happening, it's within what we have already
[00:23:53] seen, we today this week in general
[00:23:57] raised this topic, published,
[00:24:00] in particular, the Kyiv School of Economics, there at the request of
[00:24:04] the World Bank,
[00:24:06] published such a strategy
[00:24:08] for the development of Ukraine, the economy of the future, and it, in a nutshell,
[00:24:12] is based on two expectations, that we will be able to
[00:24:16] attract large investments, and two, we will be able to
[00:24:20] raise taxes and everyone will pay them and we will reduce the national
[00:24:24] debt, and I'm just trying to
[00:24:26] understand how the current situation fits into
[00:24:30] this long-term strategy, or do we actually need to
[00:24:34] develop a flexible economic strategy now?
[00:24:37] how the country's economy
[00:24:41] should develop now, because if the war continues for years
[00:24:44] and in this vein, we won't have any
[00:24:48] investments, because we can't ensure the safety of these
[00:24:51] investments, well, simply from attacks
[00:24:55] by Shaheds or ballistic missiles or rockets, and the second point is, well, why
[00:24:58] raise taxes on Rozetka, if it has now incurred billion-dollar
[00:25:02] losses, well, for example,
[00:25:06] look, firstly, what was
[00:25:08] discussed in this strategy is
[00:25:11] post-war recovery, and the strategy is not for the period
[00:25:15] of war, there are no investments during the war and there won't be any,
[00:25:18] everything is about... about how Ukraine should build its
[00:25:22] economy, as far as I understand, after the end
[00:25:24] of the war, plus, when we
[00:25:27] talk
[00:25:29] about tax pressure, we are not talking about increasing taxes, we
[00:25:33] are talking about the fact that taxes must be paid, that is, about the de-shadowing
[00:25:36] of the economy, and the de-shadowing of the economy is timely, even during
[00:25:40] the war.
[00:25:43] Well, thank you very much for the conversation, Serhiy
[00:25:46] Fursa, investment banker, was with us. We talked a little
[00:25:50] about what is happening with business now, as well as about
[00:25:54] the panic mood that has really gripped
[00:25:57] many people in connection with the current
[00:26:00] situation, this, by the way, is also in the headlines
[00:26:03] of the media now, and here is an amazing situation, how
[00:26:06] the situation suddenly changed, because a month or two ago,
[00:26:09] literally, it seems to me, both in Western media, and I don't know, in
[00:26:13] Ukrainian social networks,
[00:26:16] and by the way, in the statements of the authorities, there were many, many
[00:26:19] positive announcements, that Ukraine is winning the
[00:26:23] war, we heard some things about the war potentially
[00:26:26] ending this year, although they still continue
[00:26:30] to sound, yes, but... but we also have
[00:26:34] some quite panicky moods, which are related to the fact
[00:26:37] that, in essence, ballistic missiles are
[00:26:39] not being shot down now, because there is simply nothing to
[00:26:43] shoot them down with, and I remind you that today our
[00:26:46] poll asks whether
[00:26:49] you, whether you are preparing for some
[00:26:53] possible problems with the food crisis,
[00:26:56] if those attacks on supermarket warehouses
[00:26:59] happen and others, and... the answers: I believe in
[00:27:03] Ukrainian business, there will be no crisis, I'm afraid of a crisis, so
[00:27:07] I'm stocking up on food, I don't care, because I have a plan
[00:27:11] B, and that is the village, that's a good plan
[00:27:14] B too, actually, I think it's good for everyone to have
[00:27:17] this plan
[00:27:18] B.
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