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[00:00:06] opinion? Yes, I believe in Ukrainian business, there will be no crisis. I am afraid
[00:00:10] of a crisis, I am stocking up on food, I don't know what kind, probably matches
[00:00:14] should be first here, it doesn't matter, because I don't live in a
[00:00:17] big city, I have, I have a village and I won't
[00:00:20] die of hunger, such options of answers, you can also write your
[00:00:24] own options in the comments under
[00:00:27] the broadcast, well, and we... we will move
[00:00:30] on a bit and we still have a military
[00:00:34] topic ahead of us, a military
[00:00:37] one. I hope we already have our next
[00:00:40] interlocutor, and now we will talk
[00:00:43] about very interesting appointments,
[00:00:47] appointments
[00:00:48] of
[00:00:52] the new head of our defense forces, I mean
[00:00:56] the commander-in-chief Drap. Chief
[00:00:59] of Staff of the 11th Army Corps
[00:01:03] Brigadier General Serhii Sobko will likely
[00:01:06] become deputy of the new commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces Mykhailo
[00:01:09] Drapov. As of early August 26, the general
[00:01:13] has already been seconded to the General Staff, where he is currently performing
[00:01:17] the duties of deputy, but is still awaiting official
[00:01:21] approval by presidential decree and final distribution
[00:01:24] of powers. Sobko's appointment came shortly after his
[00:01:28] resonant public criticism of the personnel system
[00:01:31] of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The officer openly stated that
[00:01:35] personal loyalty in the army began to outweigh professional
[00:01:38] competence, and commanders are forced to think about
[00:01:41] avoiding punishment instead of performing combat
[00:01:45] missions, and despite this sharp criticism, after the change
[00:01:48] of commander-in-chief, he will likely
[00:01:52] receive such a promotion. General Sobko and Bogdan
[00:01:55] Bachynsky, editor-in-chief of the site, join
[00:01:58] us. Bohdan,
[00:02:26] about Mr. Sobko, about General Sobko, what can
[00:02:29] we say about him? Why so many military personnel today
[00:02:32] write to my acquaintances that this is good news? Well, first
[00:02:36] of all, it should be noted that there is already
[00:02:39] practically an official appointment, today on the information
[00:02:42] resources of the Ministry of Defense there was a message that during
[00:02:46] the meeting of the Minister of Defense Yevhen Khmara with
[00:02:50] his British counterpart, Serhii Sobko was already
[00:02:54] present at this meeting in
[00:02:57] the capacity of acting
[00:03:00] deputy commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, that is,
[00:03:04] we understand that some documents still need to be signed, but in fact, he has already
[00:03:08] taken up his duties.
[00:03:12] What do we know about him? First
[00:03:15] of all, we know that he is a Hero of Ukraine,
[00:03:18] he was awarded the Hero of Ukraine
[00:03:21] by President
[00:03:23] Poroshenko
[00:03:26] after Serhii Sobko twice led
[00:03:30] units of the Armed
[00:03:33] Forces out of encirclement within the ATO.
[00:03:37] One time this happened in Luhansk region, near
[00:03:39] Savur-Mohyla, and the second time in Donetsk region, near
[00:03:42] Debaltseve. That is, he participated in battles both in Debaltseve and
[00:03:46] Savur-Mohyla. That's right.
[00:03:49] Later, he
[00:03:53] received simply excellent
[00:03:56] education in the USA. At the
[00:03:59] Command and Staff College in the USA, he
[00:04:02] has excellent English language skills,
[00:04:06] you definitely cannot call him a Soviet general, he is a
[00:04:09] new type of general, he is a general
[00:04:12] who is not afraid to criticize, as you
[00:04:15] mentioned earlier, he is a general who is ready for reforms and proposes various
[00:04:19] reforms,
[00:04:22] and the full-scale invasion found
[00:04:26] him in the position of Chief of Staff of the Territorial Defense Forces,
[00:04:30] specifically in the city of Kyiv, he was one of those
[00:04:33] who led the defense of Kyiv, as a commandant,
[00:04:37] команданта,
[00:04:41] and already in March, including for the defense of Kyiv, he
[00:04:44] received the rank of brigadier
[00:04:51] involved in the development of territorial
[00:04:54] defense, and this is very important in modern conditions, because
[00:04:58] at that time,
[00:05:00] territorial defense units were
[00:05:04] accepting civilians who had
[00:05:06] mostly no relation
[00:05:09] to the armed forces and no military
[00:05:12] experience. That is, Sobko actually
[00:05:15] established the acceptance,
[00:05:19] training, and further equipping
[00:05:22] of the territorial defense forces and their further integration into the armed
[00:05:26] forces. We know there was some criticism
[00:05:29] regarding territorial defense, but we also know several excellent
[00:05:33] territorial defense brigades, for example, the 103rd brigade, which
[00:05:36] consistently ranks among the top ten best
[00:05:40] in destroying Russians, specifically
[00:05:42] with drones.
[00:05:45] This experience, as I understand it, is very useful
[00:05:48] now for the commander-in-chief, and he
[00:05:51] will
[00:05:53] continue it,
[00:05:55] especially given that we have problems with mobilization,
[00:05:59] mobilization processes need to be established,
[00:06:03] we need to conduct a dialogue with
[00:06:06] society so that
[00:06:07] щоби
[00:06:11] joining the army is more
[00:06:15] understandable, predictable, and
[00:06:17] there is no such critical mass of negativity as there is now,
[00:06:21] and Serhii Sobko's experience,
[00:06:25] his previous experience, indicates that he is very
[00:06:29] people-centric, he primarily thinks about
[00:06:32] the military, and it is obvious
[00:06:35] that having such a certain
[00:06:39] reformer's mindset, his wisdom will
[00:06:43] contribute to the fulfillment of those
[00:06:47] promises that Mykhailo Drapatyi took upon
[00:06:50] himself, including establishing the mobilization
[00:06:53] process. Can we say that in principle
[00:06:57] some structural changes
[00:06:59] are happening now, what is the focus, or can we already
[00:07:02] say who Drapatyi will bet on and what he will bet on
[00:07:06] after Syrskyi?
[00:07:09] We can highlight several trends.
[00:07:12] The first trend is that the command
[00:07:15] of the Armed
[00:07:18] Forces of Ukraine is being joined by generals
[00:07:20] who have passed their main combat path
[00:07:24] and grew up, became generals, actually
[00:07:27] during the time of Zaluzhny's command,
[00:07:30] that is, this is a new generation
[00:07:34] of generals who have proven themselves on the battlefield and demonstrated
[00:07:38] their best qualities as commanders.
[00:07:41] The second part is a certain
[00:07:43] people-centric approach. Mykhailo Drapatyi, well, everyone
[00:07:47] notes that he cares about the personnel, and
[00:07:50] he very often repeats
[00:07:54] this phrase that the command is a certain
[00:07:57] service for the soldier who is directly at
[00:08:00] the front, and the team that
[00:08:03] he chooses obviously shares similar
[00:08:06] values. I will remind you that recently he also
[00:08:09] returned Shamil Krutkov
[00:08:14] to command, who was previously removed
[00:08:17] from, who was the commander of the 93rd
[00:08:20] Cold Yar Brigade, who
[00:08:24] was removed from this position. We will not,
[00:08:27] well, it is not important why, but now Mykhailo
[00:08:31] Drapatyi has returned him.
[00:08:34] Shamil Krutkov is also known for
[00:08:37] his great
[00:08:39] care for the personnel, and also for the fact
[00:08:43] that he lives by war, that is, everyone notes that he is a person
[00:08:46] who has dedicated his life to war as much as possible,
[00:08:50] and such people are now needed for
[00:08:53] us to withstand this Russian
[00:08:56] invasion. Finally, I hear a lot from career soldiers
[00:09:00] about how important the sergeant
[00:09:03] link in the army is, and how neglected it has been
[00:09:06] lately. I read, like many others, that Valeriy
[00:09:10] Markus might return to the position
[00:09:13] of chief sergeant, but to specifically reform
[00:09:17] this link itself, the very institute
[00:09:19] of sergeants. Well, it is also interesting that
[00:09:22] Serhii Sobko, while serving
[00:09:26] under the command of territorial defense, he introduced
[00:09:29] the so-called school of captains, that is, a school
[00:09:33] for junior command staff, for
[00:09:35] commanders of companies, platoons,
[00:09:38] battalions. At that time, at the beginning, a not very large
[00:09:41] number of
[00:09:44] reserve officers joined the army, they had theoretical knowledge, but they never
[00:09:48] had any practical experience, and actually this
[00:09:51] school of captains helped
[00:09:54] to train a very large number of
[00:09:57] successful junior officers,
[00:10:00] and accordingly, we see that
[00:10:03] this is a certain priority that
[00:10:07] Mykhailo Drapatyi is pursuing in his work, including
[00:10:10] appointing
[00:10:12] the chief sergeant of the armed forces, Valeriy
[00:10:16] Markus. Well, for now, we know, we only hear rumors about this appointment,
[00:10:19] but we know that Markus
[00:10:23] was the ideologue of the 47th Magura
[00:10:26] Brigade, which was one of
[00:10:29] the first, well, which participated in the counteroffensive in 2023.
[00:10:33] At that time, he was known for certain leadership qualities,
[00:10:36] he talked a lot about how to develop
[00:10:40] the sergeant direction, and obviously,
[00:10:43] his certain
[00:10:46] values are the same values as Mykhailo
[00:10:49] Drapatov. Thank you, Bohdan, Bohdan Bachynsky, editor-in-chief
[00:10:53] of the site, was with us.
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[00:15:40] and we continue, and now let's talk a little about what
[00:15:44] happened in the court
[00:15:46] process, which concerns the suspicion
[00:15:50] of corrupt actions of
[00:15:53] ex-vice prime minister, ex-minister of Justice and
[00:15:56] ex-ambassador to the United States Olga
[00:16:00] Stefanyshyna. Our correspondent journalist Dmytro Didora
[00:16:04] was at the trial and knows all the details and knows where, probably,
[00:16:07] Ms. Stefanyshyna is now.
[00:16:11] Dmytro, hello, over to
[00:16:12] you.
[00:16:15] Hello Andriy, hello to our viewers. Indeed, today
[00:16:19] a preventive measure was chosen for Olga
[00:16:21] Stefanyshyna, she was assigned
[00:16:25] bail in the amount of 6 million. I noted
[00:16:28] that the prosecution asked for over
[00:16:31] 13 million. In their opinion, these
[00:16:34] were the damages caused to the state. And
[00:16:38] during the court proceedings, journalists
[00:16:41] and the public learned what exactly
[00:16:45] Olga Stefanyshyna is being accused of in this
[00:16:48] new suspicion. I will only note that this is
[00:16:51] illegal enrichment and incorrect
[00:16:54] declaration. According to the investigation, Ms. Stefanyshyna purchased
[00:16:57] two apartments in the Fayna
[00:17:01] Town residential complex. This is
[00:17:04] an expensive residential complex in the capital.
[00:17:07] And she did this through her best
[00:17:11] friend, and also repairs were carried out
[00:17:14] in these apartments. Another reason
[00:17:18] was the apartment she rented in the very
[00:17:21] center of the capital on Yaroslaviv Val Street, Golden
[00:17:25] Gate, and according to the investigation, the rent was
[00:17:28] over 100 dollars
[00:17:31] (1300, it seems) per month and was paid in
[00:17:35] cash. The prosecution also
[00:17:39] read out letters between Olga Stefanyshyna's
[00:17:42] assistant and her
[00:17:46] and the landlord about the payment for this
[00:17:49] apartment. In particular, it also concerns the Mercedes-Benz
[00:17:53] car, which, according to the investigation,
[00:17:56] Olga Stefanyshyna purchased herself,
[00:17:59] but it was not indicated in the declaration. She purchased
[00:18:03] it in 2021, for 43.
[00:18:10] Evidence indicates that she used the car, these are receipts
[00:18:14] for
[00:18:17] traffic violations and the fact that she used
[00:18:21] parking in one of the residential complexes, also
[00:18:24] such interesting information, as it seems to me, turned out to be that during
[00:18:28] the court hearing we learned about the moment
[00:18:32] of influence on the selection
[00:18:35] of the head of NAZK. Yes, we yesterday, we
[00:18:38] yesterday, we talked about it yesterday, so as not to repeat myself, I
[00:18:41] will only ask very briefly, where is she now, has she been
[00:18:45] released, or is she now in
[00:18:46] custody?
[00:18:49] As far as I understand, because it was
[00:18:53] said that this is bail, and if there is bail, then most
[00:18:57] likely this information still needs to be clarified, but maybe
[00:19:00] she was sent to custody,
[00:19:03] the former ambassador to the USA
[00:19:06] from Ukraine, because... because simply bail is not assigned, I don't
[00:19:09] think the state simply needs money to collect it from
[00:19:13] Olga Stefanyshyna, but bail is usually assigned
[00:19:17] when a person is sent to custody. Absolutely, thank you very much for
[00:19:20] this story, Dmytro Didora, our journalist, was with us, well, and now we will
[00:19:24] talk a little with Maryna Danylyuk Yermalayeva, our co-host,
[00:19:27] colleague, colleague,
[00:19:31] about a political aspect of this
[00:19:34] story. Many people now say that... she was generally
[00:19:38] blamed for such trifles, my God, two apartments, we have
[00:19:41] Mindyche and so on, there is probably some rational grain in
[00:19:45] this, although on the other hand, this story,
[00:19:48] in particular with the influence on the appointment of the head of NAZK, many
[00:19:52] people recall now how she, when she was still
[00:19:55] vice-prime minister for European integration, it seems, how she
[00:19:58] said that no, we don't need any competitions, and so
[00:20:01] on, all those foreign experts, foreign independent participants
[00:20:05] of tender commissions, and... Now this also sheds some light. Maryna Danyliuk
[00:20:09] Yermalayeva is already with us. Maryna, hello, did it cause you some
[00:20:13] sympathy and empathy when
[00:20:15] the former vice-prime minister cried in the courtroom?
[00:20:19] суду?
[00:20:22] Andriy, hello, one can purely humanly
[00:20:26] sympathize, a person crying is bad, you wouldn't wish
[00:20:29] that even on an enemy, to sit there in that glass
[00:20:33] cube in the High Anti-Corruption Court, and have
[00:20:36] a measure of restraint chosen for you. Purely humanly,
[00:20:39] Stefanyshyna is to be pitied, because I remind you that for a long time she was
[00:20:43] Bankova's favorite and one of Volodymyr Oleksandrovych
[00:20:46] Zelenskyy's political favorites. And I remind you
[00:20:50] that a year ago, among a number of candidates
[00:20:53] close to Zelenskyy, the candidacy of the Ambassador
[00:20:57] of Ukraine to the United States of America was suddenly chosen, and Olga Stefanyshyna
[00:21:01] was very pleased to go to diplomatic service, but
[00:21:05] her diplomatic service did not last that long, and now we
[00:21:08] understand the reason, because NABU and SAPO were preparing
[00:21:11] a suspicion for her, and at that moment, when you really want to
[00:21:15] sympathize with Olga Stefanyshyna, I really advise
[00:21:18] you to read the materials from the courtroom
[00:21:21] that have already been leaked to the press, namely, that Olga
[00:21:25] Stefanyshyna bought expensive
[00:21:29] property, apartments, cars, and
[00:21:32] traditionally, as Ukrainian officials very often
[00:21:36] do, she registered all this to her relatives and even to a friend, and this raises
[00:21:40] the question for me why they did this, because I
[00:21:43] remind you that she was one of the most professional government
[00:21:46] officials of that era, she is a person who
[00:21:50] headed the Ministry of Justice, she is a woman who at one
[00:21:54] time graduated from Kyiv National University,
[00:21:57] received a good education, speaks English well, well, that is, it
[00:22:01] seems to me that she would have had enough sense and money to hire
[00:22:05] a declaration consultant and do all this beautifully, and not
[00:22:08] register all this to random people and attract
[00:22:12] unnecessary attention from anti-corruption bodies, but
[00:22:15] the worst thing discussed during the VAC session was that
[00:22:19] Olga Stefani... already during the full-scale
[00:22:22] invasion, managed these competitions
[00:22:25] regarding the selection of the heads of our
[00:22:28] anti-corruption infrastructure
[00:22:31] manually. There is a very interesting
[00:22:34] episode from 2022. I remind you that in 2022,
[00:22:38] we barely drove the Russians away from
[00:22:41] Kyiv, there were battles for Kharkiv region, there were
[00:22:45] battles for Kherson, and it turns out that we then had
[00:22:48] competitions for the position of director of NABU, and Olga Stepanishyna
[00:22:52] sent to those commission members who
[00:22:55] are from the authorities and advised who should
[00:22:59] have their scores lowered, and who, on the contrary, should be raised in this ranking,
[00:23:02] and one of the favorites,
[00:23:06] for whom she put in a good word, was a rather
[00:23:10] well-known Pavlo Kyrylenko. I will remind you who this is,
[00:23:13] this is a person who headed
[00:23:16] the Anti-Monopoly Committee of Ukraine, before that,
[00:23:19] by the way, he was the head of the State
[00:23:23] Property Fund, and even before that, the head of the Donetsk
[00:23:26] Military-Civil Administration, and when this man, by the way, was pushed
[00:23:29] for the position of head
[00:23:32] of the Anti-Monopoly Committee of Ukraine, then
[00:23:35] many specialists,
[00:23:38] many anti-corruption activists, by the way, wrote that it might not
[00:23:41] be worth pushing such a person, because he has many relatives
[00:23:45] in the occupied territories, namely in
[00:23:48] the territory not controlled.
[00:23:56] and his own brother, by the way, works in the security
[00:23:59] agencies of DNR, and by the way, his mother and
[00:24:03] brother gave interviews to Russian media, where they did not hide that they are completely
[00:24:07] comfortable in the "Russian world", and President
[00:24:10] Zelenskyy completely turned a blind eye to all this
[00:24:14] data, and there was even his public comment that it
[00:24:17] does not matter what relatives this person has, the result
[00:24:21] is important to us, and so Pavlo Kyrylenko was pushed
[00:24:24] to this position, and let's imagine the situation if it
[00:24:27] had worked out, we can add about Kyrylenko that he is also
[00:24:30] under investigation by NABU together with his wife, also a lot of cars,
[00:24:34] a lot of apartments in Uzhhorod, they bought half a block there, well, in short,
[00:24:38] he sold raspberries, he sold raspberries well with his parents, as he
[00:24:41] said, so where to get such
[00:24:44] raspberry seedlings to buy half of Zhyk in
[00:24:48] Uzhhorod, but... Imagine the situation if
[00:24:51] Stefanishyna and her accomplices had managed to push Pavlo
[00:24:55] Kyrylenko to the position of NABU director, then we
[00:24:58] would never have heard or seen Mindich's tapes, these
[00:25:02] details, how we have embezzlement
[00:25:04] that happened with the help
[00:25:08] of the Dynastia cooperative in the Ministry of Energy, well,
[00:25:11] that is, you can imagine, and the most terrible thing is that Olga Stefanyshyna, I remind you that this is a person
[00:25:15] who for a long time was responsible for European integration,
[00:25:19] and at that moment, when Ursula
[00:25:22] von der Leyen, the European Commission, or
[00:25:25] various officials from Brussels, Marta Kosa, constantly tell us that,
[00:25:28] friends, you need to hold honest, transparent
[00:25:31] competitions for the heads of your law enforcement agencies, please hold
[00:25:35] a competition for the position of Prosecutor General, finally reform
[00:25:39] the SBI, details emerge of how a person
[00:25:42] who was responsible for European integration manually
[00:25:45] ordered who should have their scores lowered, because they are an independent
[00:25:48] candidate, and... on the contrary, to raise him in this rating, and this
[00:25:52] is actually terrible,
[00:25:55] this shows that we have a person who on the surface can talk
[00:25:58] about clusters of European integration,
[00:26:01] secretly... doing everything so that Marta Kost then comes
[00:26:05] to us and says: "But you are not reaching
[00:26:08] European integration, Moldova is doing better." But I just know, we don't have
[00:26:12] time actually, I just have a question, did she herself come up with
[00:26:15] that this is how it should be said, that this is what NAZK will be, or did someone
[00:26:19] just tell her who should be there?
[00:26:23] Well, yes, let's assume that it
[00:26:26] was clearly not her, she was a cog in this system, and again
[00:26:30] for'. As for the objects she did not
[00:26:34] declare in her name, one can assume that it was
[00:26:38] not free. Well, thank you very much for those important, very
[00:26:42] details to the really sad story of Mrs.
[00:26:45] Stefanishyna, well and in the meantime we move
[00:26:49] on, we have a wonderful story,
[00:26:52] touching Ukrainian emergency workers saved a baby
[00:26:55] fawn during the liquidation of a large forest
[00:26:58] fire in France, the State Emergency Service reports this, it is noted:
[00:27:02] that the little fawn had burnt hooves, could not
[00:27:06] walk on its own, run away from the fire,
[00:27:09] our firefighters and rescuers
[00:27:13] saved the unfortunate animal, it will
[00:27:17] live, it will run, everything will be fine with it. Well, I remind you
[00:27:20] that at the end of July 70 Ukrainian rescuers
[00:27:24] went to France to help extinguish large
[00:27:45] ask what is really happening there, Khrystyna Pertsovych,
[00:27:48] spokesperson of the Main Department of the State Emergency Service of Ivano-Frankivsk region, joins
[00:27:51] us, Mrs. Khrystyna, I greet you,
[00:27:55] hello, what is happening
[00:27:58] with our, with our, with our
[00:28:02] work in France right now, what are the news
[00:28:05] from the report?
[00:28:08] Well, in France, a combined unit of the State Emergency Service of Ukraine is currently working, as it was
[00:28:11] noted, the unit includes 70 rescuers and 15
[00:28:15] units of specialized equipment, these are fire trucks, cargo
[00:28:18] vehicles, a medical vehicle,
[00:28:21] if we talk about the tasks that Ukrainian
[00:28:25] rescuers received, considerable
[00:28:28] attention is paid to extinguishing fires
[00:28:31] in separate foci, watering the territory,
[00:28:35] localizing smoldering and controlling areas where the fire can
[00:28:38] resume, as well as creating
[00:28:41] a safe perimeter and preventing the spread of flames to
[00:28:45] settlements, economic facilities, as well
[00:28:49] as young forest plantations and other vulnerable
[00:28:52] territories, in particular, Ukrainian rescuers
[00:28:55] received the task of restraining the spread of fire in the direction
[00:28:58] of the Horse Center, to protect
[00:29:01] young. plantations, work is carried out directly, both in
[00:29:05] the forest, and these are areas with quite high
[00:29:09] soil temperature, smoke, a large number
[00:29:12] of hidden foci of burning. Do the French
[00:29:16] have anything to learn from our rescuers, in your opinion, you have
[00:29:19] probably communicated with colleagues from
[00:29:21] France,
[00:29:25] well, they always approach us, they try
[00:29:29] to communicate with us, they.
[00:29:32] at first appreciated our very high
[00:29:36] organization and efficiency and speed
[00:29:39] of work execution, it was noted during
[00:29:42] the meeting in the department of Gironde that they were first of all
[00:29:46] surprised by how an organized, quick and
[00:29:49] clear column of rescuers arrived, how quickly
[00:29:52] we start extinguishing
[00:29:55] fires and how we can work in
[00:29:59] various difficult conditions, we share with them
[00:30:02] how to
[00:30:05] extinguish fires, particularly in ecosystems in
[00:30:08] the absence
[00:30:10] of sufficient water supply, in conditions when
[00:30:13] it is not enough, when it is impossible to involve
[00:30:17] aviation, when the flames spread
[00:30:20] very quickly, this is experience gained in our
[00:30:23] extremely difficult conditions, as a result of a full-scale
[00:30:27] invasion, well, and finally I ask,
[00:30:30] how long will this mission last? and when
[00:30:33] will our rescuers
[00:30:36] return to Ukraine.
[00:30:39] Well, we cannot say specific deadlines
[00:30:42] now, how much the
[00:30:45] operational situation will stabilize, how much the
[00:30:48] French side will need
[00:30:51] our involvement. Well, thank you very much, Khrystyna
[00:30:55] Pertsovych, spokeswoman of the Main Department of the State Emergency Service in
[00:30:58] Ivano-Frankivsk region, was with us, I remind you that 70%