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[00:00:00] alarms, or has everyone already figured it out, and
[00:00:03] what needs to be improved, in your
[00:00:04] opinion?
[00:00:08] Well, how can I tell you, there
[00:00:12] are statements from Mayor Vitali Klitschko,
[00:00:15] there are messages in the Telegram channel
[00:00:18] of Prime Minister Serhiy Koretsky, but
[00:00:22] actually, regulatory documents, as of
[00:00:25] yesterday, I haven't found
[00:00:28] any regulatory documents. It's clear
[00:00:32] that there are two levels
[00:00:35] of threats, but, well,
[00:00:39] it would be logical that
[00:00:41] higher-level threats would
[00:00:45] concern everyone, and yellow-level
[00:00:49] threats would only concern those
[00:00:53] enterprises, institutions where
[00:00:55] there is a large concentration of people. That's why,
[00:00:59] because if there's a small dental clinic
[00:01:02] where two or three
[00:01:06] people are sitting in a queue
[00:01:09] and one is sitting in a chair,
[00:01:12] to arrange for them to
[00:01:16] go to the basement and all that, and
[00:01:19] moreover, in a mandatory manner, well, that's
[00:01:22] not very logical, in my opinion,
[00:01:26] firstly, and secondly, it's simply impossible
[00:01:30] to control. And if there are any
[00:01:34] regulations that are impossible to control,
[00:01:37] then people simply
[00:01:40] ignore them. So, if
[00:01:43] there are new rules of conduct during
[00:01:46] air raids, then there must be control
[00:01:50] over their adherence to these rules, and there must
[00:01:54] be punishment. Otherwise, it's
[00:01:56] just some empty
[00:02:00] words and nothing more.
[00:02:03] And people, it's clear, have not yet
[00:02:07] adapted to the new changes, and
[00:02:11] this,
[00:02:14] unfortunately, the authorities are not doing enough. Besides
[00:02:17] announcing two levels of alarms, obviously,
[00:02:21] some more detailed
[00:02:24] explanatory measures
[00:02:26] and still, as
[00:02:30] I said, there should be a regulatory framework, because without
[00:02:33] it, all these are good intentions. Well,
[00:02:37] is this a regulatory framework that the Kyiv City State Administration should approve,
[00:02:41] or should it be an initiative of the government itself, which is handed down from above, in your
[00:02:45] opinion?
[00:02:47] Well, you see, the government's initiatives are
[00:02:51] too general. I
[00:02:53] believe that we need to transfer maximum powers to
[00:02:57] local areas so that it's not just... The MD
[00:03:00] is actually in Kyiv. Security is handled by
[00:03:04] Kyiv Radio Defense, which
[00:03:08] includes the city
[00:03:10] administration, the military administration, and
[00:03:13] representatives of the State Emergency Service.
[00:03:17] This is the body that makes decisions regarding
[00:03:20] security. This is on one hand. On the other
[00:03:24] hand, if the authorities cannot ensure,
[00:03:26] well,
[00:03:29] at least, let's say,
[00:03:32] ensure complete safety for citizens, then
[00:03:35] citizens should be given
[00:03:38] the opportunity to decide for themselves, to take
[00:03:41] measures, how to act.
[00:03:45] Well, there are many initiatives, for example, Mr.
[00:03:48] Koretsky, the Prime Minister, said that it is necessary
[00:03:51] to control the cost of taxi services during
[00:03:54] air raids, but this is absolutely
[00:03:58] fantastic, it's impossible to control
[00:04:01] thousands of taxi cars that
[00:04:04] operate in Kyiv and
[00:04:07] monitor their prices. In the best case,
[00:04:11] if you impose control on them, then the taxis
[00:04:15] will simply declare an Italian
[00:04:18] strike, meaning they won't work, they won't
[00:04:21] drive at all. Mr. Koretsky, he came from business, he
[00:04:25] should understand that such non-market methods simply
[00:04:28] don't work like that.
[00:04:32] Well, you see, he came from Naftogaz,
[00:04:36] where there's a huge staff, huge
[00:04:39] money, all his subordinates
[00:04:41] depend on his will.
[00:04:44] So he thinks that he will move
[00:04:48] his finger and everything will be as
[00:04:51] he moved it. Okay, with taxis, let's leave that story,
[00:04:55] but the idea itself, how to provide for
[00:04:59] people who don't have... the opportunity, for example, don't have their
[00:05:02] own cars, how to ensure their movement, when those
[00:05:05] alarms ended, I understand, this narrow bottleneck
[00:05:09] appears, when everyone literally goes out, goes to... to some
[00:05:12] tram stops, hypothetically speaking, which resume movement, and here it's impossible
[00:05:16] to get on, it's simply impossible to get on public
[00:05:19] transport. Well, I might say some
[00:05:23] blasphemous things, but if
[00:05:26] public transport is allowed to move across bridges,
[00:05:30] there are two critical bridges, namely the Podilsko-Voskresenskyi and
[00:05:34] the Southern Bridge. If buses and
[00:05:37] cars are allowed to move
[00:05:39] there, then I don't see much point
[00:05:42] in not allowing metro movement. In the end,
[00:05:46] the risk will be the same. Obviously, some
[00:05:50] measures should be taken to generally
[00:05:52] ensure
[00:05:55] safe passage across bridges. Perhaps
[00:05:59] the metro line needs to be somehow
[00:06:02] protected with drone nets, or
[00:06:05] non-transparent screens should be installed along this line.
[00:06:09] After all, we know that Russians...
[00:06:12] protect the Crimean bridge with smoke
[00:06:15] screens. Perhaps we also need
[00:06:19] to simply and trivially
[00:06:21] protect our bridges with smoke
[00:06:25] screens. So, here we need
[00:06:29] non-standard new approaches, but
[00:06:32] it seems to me that the problem is that no one, everyone is afraid to take
[00:06:35] the initiative so as not to be responsible for any consequences. That's
[00:06:39] the impression I have now, but I also wanted to ask about something else,
[00:06:43] and that is this story with, what's it called,
[00:06:46] the University of Intellectual Property, which is somehow connected with
[00:06:50] Mr. Kivalo, by the way, this story today is already
[00:06:52] there,
[00:06:54] calculate, yes, Mr. Calculate, yes,
[00:06:58] we are known, well, well, you see,
[00:07:01] this means that society is not
[00:07:05] ready for new realities.
[00:07:07] If the leadership are seemingly intelligent people,
[00:07:10] educated, experienced, they
[00:07:13] have passed a long life path, if
[00:07:17] they allow themselves such blunders, this
[00:07:20] means that they simply do not realize
[00:07:24] the danger
[00:07:26] of the situation. That no one could
[00:07:29] say that this is simply dangerous. This all happened during an air
[00:07:33] raid, and this is not a simple air raid. Today there is ballistics,
[00:07:36] Zircon, reactive drones, whatever
[00:07:39] you want.
[00:07:41] Excuse me, but we don't have such a regulatory
[00:07:45] body. That's why I'm talking
[00:07:48] about regulatory acts. If the Cabinet of Ministers
[00:07:51] assigned to the national police the duty to control
[00:07:55] public events, to interrupt, to fine,
[00:07:58] then a whole regulatory framework
[00:08:01] is needed to
[00:08:04] force people, leaders,
[00:08:07] officials, to act in a certain way. But now, well,
[00:08:11] they gathered, and... they bear no responsibility, except
[00:08:14] moral. And that's not
[00:08:17] right, it seems, it seems that after five years of war,
[00:08:21] this time is finally coming, to gather such a regulatory framework. Thank you
[00:08:25] for the conversation. Oleksandr Serhiienko was the director of the Analytical Research
[00:08:28] Center, Institute of the City. Five people were
[00:08:31] injured as a result of enemy shelling by Russians, three
[00:08:35] medics hospitalized. The enemy hit a multi-story building in Kyiv, in
[00:08:39] Darnytskyi district. The hit occurred on the 11th
[00:08:42] and 12th floors, causing a fire and destruction. All
[00:08:46] relevant services are working at the scene, reports Mayor
[00:08:50] Vitali Klitschko. Meanwhile, rescuers extinguished
[00:08:54] all fires that arose due to enemy night attacks on
[00:08:57] Kyiv. As a result of hits in Darnytskyi and
[00:09:00] Holosiivskyi districts, trucks and a garage caught fire,
[00:09:04] and a two-story residential
[00:09:07] building was burning at another location. And in Solomianskyi
[00:09:11] district, which suffered the most from enemy shelling yesterday, our correspondent
[00:09:14] Maksym Kulyk is currently present. Maksym, I greet you, and
[00:09:18] please tell us about the consequences
[00:09:22] and about how the debris clearing
[00:09:24] is currently ongoing.
[00:09:31] Hello Iryna, hello viewers, we are actually currently
[00:09:34] going to Darnytskyi district to the site of the attack,
[00:09:38] but for now we are still in Solomianskyi
[00:09:41] district. where yesterday the Russians
[00:09:45] struck twice
[00:09:48] with North Korean ballistic
[00:09:50] missiles.
[00:09:54] Now we can hear a comment
[00:09:57] from a resident of the affected
[00:09:59] building.
[00:10:03] It was a flight, they bombed it there, the rocket flew, smashed
[00:10:07] windows, smashed doors, smashed everything,
[00:10:10] ruined furniture. Well, in short, the premises
[00:10:14] are uninhabitable. If I'm not mistaken,
[00:10:17] two
[00:10:20] strikes happened, two, one here at the Varus
[00:10:24] store. And the other one hit the warehouses there.
[00:10:27] Two rockets flew. We filed a statement, but
[00:10:31] whether there will be financial help
[00:10:34] or not, well, yesterday volunteers
[00:10:37] came and these local workers
[00:10:40] cut plywood to board up
[00:10:44] the windows, at least temporarily,
[00:10:47] not permanently, but
[00:10:48] yes.
[00:10:56] A day has passed, the smell of burning is still
[00:10:59] in the air, there are almost no people around, and
[00:11:03] rescuers continue their work. Communal workers
[00:11:07] are also working here, they are
[00:11:09] cleaning up fragments of glass and other debris
[00:11:13] from the damaged building.
[00:11:17] The crater from the rocket damaged the water
[00:11:20] pipes, currently nearby houses do
[00:11:24] not have water supply. Also, the
[00:11:26] street
[00:11:28] is flooded. Yes, also
[00:11:32] significant damage was sustained by the store behind
[00:11:35] me and the children's
[00:11:38] playground,
[00:11:40] children's slides
[00:11:42] were damaged.
[00:11:46] I also want to remind you that
[00:11:49] as a result of yesterday's attack, five people died in
[00:11:52] Kyiv and 23 people
[00:11:55] were injured. So,
[00:11:59] colleague, I hand the floor over to you. Thank you, this
[00:12:02] was Maksym Kulyk, from Kyiv, Solomyanskyi district,
[00:12:05] which suffered the most from enemy shelling yesterday. I only have
[00:12:09] to add regarding the situation in Kyiv, that the
[00:12:13] Kyiv City Military Administration has just announced
[00:12:16] that the number of casualties in Darnytskyi district has risen to six.
[00:12:19] Transferring frozen Russian assets to Ukraine,
[00:12:23] Kyiv proposes again. Spokesperson for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Georgiy Tykhyy, stated that
[00:12:27] the responsibility for such a decision should be shared by all EU
[00:12:30] countries. According to him, Ukraine understands Belgium's
[00:12:33] reservations, where most of the frozen
[00:12:37] Russian assets are stored. Therefore, a decision of this magnitude must
[00:12:41] be made collectively. Tykhyy noted that Ukraine has already
[00:12:44] submitted a corresponding proposal to the European side. According to him, the funds
[00:12:48] should be directed to
[00:12:51] defense, supporting resilience and rebuilding Ukraine.
[00:12:55] And in total, about 210 billion
[00:12:58] euros of Russian
[00:13:00] assets have been frozen in the EU.
[00:13:03] Ukraine has a specific proposal already submitted by
[00:13:06] our Ministry of Finance to the European side regarding
[00:13:10] how to find a mechanism
[00:13:14] at the European level, at the pan-European level,
[00:13:18] to which these funds can be transferred
[00:13:21] for management, and then essentially the decision on their
[00:13:25] use, and we believe that they should be used for
[00:13:28] the needs of defense, resilience, and recovery
[00:13:32] of Ukraine. This decision will already be made
[00:13:35] collectively, with shared responsibility of all governments
[00:13:39] of the European Union. A touch of the eternal and the voice
[00:13:42] of resilience: the laureates of the Vasyl Stus Prize were announced in
[00:13:46] Kyiv. This year, it was received by two
[00:13:49] artists. Who are they and for what were they honored? Let's
[00:13:53] see next.
[00:13:59] For a special contribution to Ukrainian culture and resilience
[00:14:02] of civic position. In the capital, the
[00:14:05] 37th award ceremony of the Vasyl Stus Prize took place.
[00:14:09] The first laureate was the translator, writer,
[00:14:12] philologist, and expert in ancient literature, Andriy
[00:14:15] Sodomora. Any recognition for today's fault,
[00:14:19] this is a great honor and responsibility, because all our
[00:14:22] attention, respect, all our love
[00:14:25] belongs first and foremost to those who are on the front
[00:14:27] line. We considered the poet ancient,
[00:14:31] he is born, we add, just like warriors.
[00:14:34] Vasyl Stus was born both a poet and
[00:14:37] a warrior. Another laureate of the prize
[00:14:40] this year was Olena Styashkina, a writer,
[00:14:43] publicist, and founder of the public movement "Deoccupation,
[00:14:47] Return, Education." If I was lucky
[00:14:50] enough to receive this award, this
[00:14:53] immediately means that I... had to say that our male and female soldiers
[00:14:57] must have clear terms of service, they must
[00:15:00] have financial support, veterans must be in
[00:15:03] truthful, correct relations with
[00:15:06] the state, and we must remember about the occupied
[00:15:10] people. The Vasyl Stus Prize was founded in
[00:15:13] 1989 by the Ukrainian
[00:15:17] Association of Independent Creative Intelligentsia. In
[00:15:20] 2016, the initiative was picked up by PEN
[00:15:23] Ukraine Kyiv, Business School and the publishing house Dukh i
[00:15:27] Litera. This year, the prize was received by two
[00:15:30] artists. We look at people who
[00:15:34] demonstrate this invincibility, this courage,
[00:15:37] or resilience, and I think
[00:15:40] these two laureates, Andriy
[00:15:43] Sodomora, are this touch of the eternal, and Olena
[00:15:46] Styazhkina, this is the spirit
[00:15:48] of this resilience, and I think these are very important
[00:15:52] messages for society right now. The Stus Prize
[00:15:55] is awarded annually to writers, artists,
[00:15:58] directors, musicians, cultural managers, and public
[00:16:01] figures for their contribution to Ukrainian culture and resilience
[00:16:05] of civic position.
[00:16:07] Since the prize's inception, more than 70 figures have received it, among
[00:16:11] them Vitali Portnikov, Mykhailyna Kotsiubynska, and Timothy
[00:16:14] Snyder.
[00:16:17] An air raid alert is currently announced in the capital. Literally a few
[00:16:21] minutes ago, the enemy attacked Dniprovsky and Obolonsky
[00:16:24] districts of Kyiv, there are preliminary hits in these districts
[00:16:28] specifically at a gas station. There is no information
[00:16:31] about casualties yet, and I want to remind you that the enemy attacked a residential
[00:16:35] building in Dniprovsky district last night. This was reported by the State Emergency
[00:16:39] Service. At the site of the strike, the facade
[00:16:42] of the building from the first to the fifth floor, as well as an apartment on
[00:16:45] the second floor, was burning. And now at the site of the Russian strike, our
[00:16:49] correspondent Maksym Kulyk is working, and
[00:16:52] Maksym, I greet you, please tell
[00:16:56] me, I just said that literally a few
[00:16:59] minutes ago, explosions rang out again
[00:17:03] in Kyiv, and now an air raid alert is underway.
[00:17:06] What is known at this moment? Did you hear these
[00:17:10] explosions, or are you far from the hit
[00:17:12] locations?
[00:17:19] Hello Iryna, hello viewers, at the moment we are in
[00:17:23] a shelter, we were previously working near
[00:17:26] the building that was hit by a drone.
[00:17:29] At the moment, while we were working there, we heard
[00:17:32] an explosion, as the police later
[00:17:36] informed us. The hit was at an Ukrnafta
[00:17:39] gas station, so, I remind
[00:17:43] Kyiv residents to always go to a shelter
[00:17:47] during air raids. Regarding the hit
[00:17:49] on the building, it is known
[00:17:52] that
[00:17:54] the drone fell near the building, which caused a large
[00:17:57] fire. The fire engulfed from the second to the sixth
[00:18:01] floor. Rescuers
[00:18:04] evacuated people, seven people are known
[00:18:08] to have been in a blocked or smoke-filled
[00:18:11] room. The fire was also quickly extinguished.
[00:18:14] Now communal workers are cleaning
[00:18:18] the area, and victims are being provided
[00:18:22] with humanitarian and psychological assistance. The victims
[00:18:25] are still recovering.
[00:18:28] Some victims have already been given permission to go to their
[00:18:31] apartments, in which apartments it is safe to be, so they could retrieve
[00:18:35] their personal belongings and documents. Also, according to
[00:18:38] police information,
[00:18:41] the drone was manufactured on August
[00:18:44] 27th, as evidenced by a fragment of the drone
[00:18:48] on which the date was indicated. The number of people who were
[00:18:52] injured is known to be
[00:18:56] eight people. According to police
[00:18:58] data, a 64-year-old man and a 57-year-old
[00:19:02] woman sustained burns to their bodies
[00:19:05] and a 23- year-old
[00:19:08] woman sustained a shrapnel
[00:19:10] wound, so she was hospitalized. Five
[00:19:14] other citizens received medical assistance on
[00:19:18] site. So we will continue to work on
[00:19:20] site, update the information,
[00:19:24] so I hand the floor over to you, colleague. Thank you, thank you,
[00:19:27] Maksym. Take care of yourself and the film crew, and for now,
[00:19:31] stay in a safe place, in a shelter. All I have to add is, this was
[00:19:35] our correspondent Maksym... from
[00:19:38] the capital. Polish Foreign Minister Radoslaw
[00:19:41] Sikorski spoke about the results of his visit to Kyiv. He
[00:19:45] met with representatives of the President's Office, anti-corruption
[00:19:48] bodies, veterans, youth, and Ukrainian
[00:19:51] media. According to him, upon returning to Poland, he
[00:19:55] will provide the government with the freshest information about
[00:19:57] the situation in Ukraine. The Polish minister also confirmed that
[00:20:01] he spoke with negotiators,
[00:20:04] both with the American and Russian sides. He did not
[00:20:08] disclose details, but noted that he now better understands the state
[00:20:12] of the negotiation process and assured that Poland will continue
[00:20:15] to help
[00:20:16] Ukraine.
[00:20:21] This is the most important task for all defense ministries of countries friendly to
[00:20:24] Ukraine: to implement Ukrainian experience, knowledge, and
[00:20:27] capabilities into our production plans, military doctrines, and
[00:20:31] the training of our military. A revolution is happening
[00:20:34] in military affairs in Ukraine.
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