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[00:00:00] Poland does not allow for it to be the threat from Lyman was repelled, then here it brought to any other European
[00:00:03] exhibition, so there is also a certain problem with
[00:00:07] imports, and the fact that mock-ups are presented, a mock-up is much easier
[00:00:11] to export than some sample weapon, because there are also
[00:00:14] certain restrictions, but
[00:00:17] at the same time, we need to talk about the key
[00:00:21] request. Recently, Valeriy Zaluzhny appealed about
[00:00:24] the need to combine efforts to create quality
[00:00:27] solutions, and here I... support
[00:00:31] him, because again we saw at the exhibition in
[00:00:34] MSVO, again I saw at the exhibition
[00:00:37] Dalo in Denmark Dalo
[00:00:40] Day Industrial Day, I saw the fragmentation
[00:00:44] of the European agricultural market, most manufacturers seek
[00:00:47] to get expertise from Ukraine, to put
[00:00:50] a "Battleproof in Ukraine" sticker, but
[00:00:53] at the same time to work exclusively in the direction
[00:00:56] of monetizing their capabilities.
[00:00:59] Let's remember the experience of the Second World War, when
[00:01:02] the allies combined their efforts and how much
[00:01:06] and what kind of weapons to produce
[00:01:09] was decided not by separate ministries of separate states, but by a single
[00:01:13] body. So we have something like that,
[00:01:16] but at the same time, we need to talk about the fact that Ramstein is the distribution
[00:01:20] of available resources and their transfer to Ukraine. It is not
[00:01:23] the creation of a common strategy, where there are
[00:01:27] a number of European
[00:01:34] create a modern system that is capable of overcoming the ballistic threat.
[00:01:38] Let's solve the problem of reducing the cost of countering ballistic missiles,
[00:01:42] that is, further the European defense industry remains
[00:01:46] fragmented, ununified, and
[00:01:48] accordingly, most companies do not foresee
[00:01:52] rapid scaling in RD, they see
[00:01:55] the possibility of selling existing means directly to the state, which
[00:01:59] they... are ready to buy, so this is a global problem, perhaps, this is a request
[00:02:03] to Europe, this is a request to our diplomacy so that we can
[00:02:07] still unite our efforts. There is a promising proposal
[00:02:10] from the side of uniting efforts around Freya, because there
[00:02:14] is a proposal to unite efforts that exist in European countries, there
[00:02:17] are opportunities to produce solid fuel in Denmark, there are opportunities
[00:02:20] to produce guidance heads in Germany, radars,
[00:02:24] all these systems should be combined into a single complex, into
[00:02:27] a single network that will allow prototyping.
[00:02:33] By the way, here we should remember again that now the United States is considering the possibility
[00:02:37] of reducing the cost of Pact 3rd MSA missiles for the
[00:02:40] Patriot system, and missiles for the
[00:02:43] THAT systems (this is missile defense), accordingly, we need to say that
[00:02:47] most manufacturers are starting to look at
[00:02:50] cost reduction, but at the same time, most manufacturers say that funding
[00:02:54] is needed, because they are used to living in peacetime,
[00:02:57] where the deadline
[00:03:00] is set not by the battle line, but by the appropriate
[00:03:03] manager. Mr. Anatoliy, you literally anticipated my question
[00:03:07] about Freya, because just the other day President
[00:03:11] Zelensky mentioned her again, how seriously should we take this
[00:03:14] project? We just know that Europeans had more than one
[00:03:17] project in various
[00:03:20] defense sectors that they eventually didn't bring to
[00:03:24] fruition, precisely because there are many countries, many
[00:03:27] manufacturers, and a certain, excuse me... collective farm
[00:03:31] was formed. Will the same happen with Freya? How serious is
[00:03:35] the situation here?
[00:03:38] Let's start with the fact that Ukraine was not involved in those other
[00:03:41] projects. Perhaps this is Europe's main problem, that they couldn't
[00:03:45] unite.
[00:03:48] They couldn't unite, because one can recall the project
[00:03:51] of creating a joint aircraft, and
[00:03:54] let's remember even now, the beginning
[00:03:57] of the full-scale invasion, the creation of the "Sky Shield" of
[00:04:01] Europe, where the Europeans argued about what they would use as the main
[00:04:04] system, oh, the Patriot system or the
[00:04:07] SAMP/T system. Let's remember the drone wall,
[00:04:10] which still does not have this wall. Perhaps
[00:04:14] such a wall on the border with the Russian Federation. Accordingly, we need to
[00:04:18] say that the main task here is to overcome certain
[00:04:22] bureaucratic obstacles, and precisely bureaucratic obstacles
[00:04:25] in Europe, and at the same time bureaucratic obstacles in Ukraine, because
[00:04:29] again, according to the experience of the Second World War, there were no
[00:04:32] restrictions on technology transfer between states,
[00:04:36] allies, they quickly exchanged. Now,
[00:04:39] hypothetically, we have
[00:04:42] "open" arms exports, which have not yet
[00:04:46] started working, because there are a lot of memorandums and intentions, but there are no
[00:04:49] arms exports, and we have a ban on
[00:04:52] technology exports, and technology export is what is needed
[00:04:56] right now to quickly optimize in order to...
[00:05:00] gain experience from European countries, provide our
[00:05:03] capabilities and exchange this experience and create a joint
[00:05:06] product, and this is the main problem, because
[00:05:09] of course it's cool when we are given the opportunity to produce.
[00:05:13] But how much does this missile cost and how many can we produce and when will we start
[00:05:17] producing them? The same applies to missiles for Patriots.
[00:05:21] How long will it take for us to start producing them? Accordingly, we need to
[00:05:25] say that the cost and prime cost of these
[00:05:28] means are also much higher than what we need to counter
[00:05:32] the enemy threat. Because the enemy, for example, changes the tactics
[00:05:35] of air attack. He starts to use strategic aviation less,
[00:05:39] because the sortie of six strategic bombers.
[00:05:43] This is without the cost of missiles. Accordingly, it is
[00:05:46] easier to launch for this cost in addition to
[00:05:50] the reduced cost of missiles, reactive drones, which cost from 100 to there
[00:05:53] to 150,000 $. And significantly more. Although by
[00:05:57] profile, it is the same aerial target as a cruise missile for us. Therefore, in
[00:06:01] principle, here I would say that we need to look for solutions
[00:06:04] to reduce costs, interaction with European companies through
[00:06:08] the opening of technology transfer. This is a very important issue that
[00:06:12] is becoming the main obstacle to interaction
[00:06:15] between companies in the desire
[00:06:18] of investors to invest money in Ukraine, because let's
[00:06:22] compare some European companies that
[00:06:25] received about 600 million euros in investments last year. This
[00:06:29] year, Thales systems received billions of euros
[00:06:32] in investments because it has battle-proven solutions in Ukraine,
[00:06:36] while Ukrainian companies, last year, received only 125 million
[00:06:40] in investments. What does this tell you? It tells you that you need to
[00:06:43] attract investors. An investor can come in for what? When he can be guaranteed
[00:06:47] to receive IP of the product, if he invests, he will be able
[00:06:51] to produce this product in his country, or at least
[00:06:54] he will be protected by the state within the framework
[00:06:58] of the existing law of state-private partnership, but
[00:07:01] which does not work, his investments will be protected, that is, the state
[00:07:05] guarantees, because if we give an example,
[00:07:08] when the state guarantees, quality products appear, it is enough
[00:07:11] to recall. SpaceX with its
[00:07:15] Starlink. The state guaranteed that this product would be of high quality,
[00:07:18] and investors started to invest money. And when Musk's
[00:07:22] rockets fell, investors didn't ask, they waited for it to work.
[00:07:25] Well, we are so demanding. When something doesn't fly, we immediately start
[00:07:29] to criticize it. But at the same time, we need to say that precisely
[00:07:33] the quality interaction of state conditions that will allow
[00:07:36] Ukrainian manufacturers to attract European investors, to exchange
[00:07:40] technologies with Europeans. Europeans. this also
[00:07:43] entails certain opportunities, let's recall how Poland demanded drones from us for
[00:07:47] old MiG-29s, that is, when there are frameworks
[00:07:50] of interaction on equal terms, then it will be
[00:07:53] better for the Ukrainian manufacturer. It is clear that European
[00:07:57] manufacturers are afraid of Ukrainian manufacturers, because we offer many cheap
[00:08:00] solutions, let's recall Pepenger's interview, when he said
[00:08:04] that in order to create some element for us, we separate a separate
[00:08:08] enterprise, and Ukrainians take Jetson,
[00:08:11] NVIDIA, they take some... there Raspberry, and they make it. We need to say that
[00:08:15] we need to unite efforts between countries in order
[00:08:18] to create a unified system, where decisions
[00:08:21] of strategic importance will be made, because
[00:08:24] again, let's go back to the experience of the Second World War,
[00:08:27] when the decision of how much weapons were needed was made by a separate
[00:08:31] body, and not by some state ministry. Everything revolves around
[00:08:35] money, you yourselves in this conversation said several times about cheap solutions,
[00:08:38] that is, they must not just be some unique ones, they can be... they
[00:08:42] need to be scaled up for small costs, yes, with
[00:08:45] the Russians, this seems to be working out, we are currently shooting down
[00:08:49] in the conditions of this missile-drone terror, we are
[00:08:53] shooting it down with planes, this is an expensive solution, yes, this is
[00:08:56] an emergency solution, this is what we can do now,
[00:09:00] but in fact, this cannot be a strategic solution. Please tell
[00:09:04] me, what can close now this issue
[00:09:08] of this missile-drone terror, because Kyiv, in fact, well,
[00:09:11] this week. it's somehow a little calmer, probably,
[00:09:14] they are accumulating missile drones, but well, it feels
[00:09:17] like it was in 2022, when we had no Patriots and
[00:09:21] nothing, these must be
[00:09:23] reactive interceptors, these must be air defense systems, this must be
[00:09:27] a complex, what it must be, because there are different opinions and different
[00:09:31] discussions on how to build this new, actually,
[00:09:33] air defense.
[00:09:37] And let's start with the fact that there is no single solution that will save us from any
[00:09:40] threats, and therefore... we constantly, I constantly emphasize that
[00:09:44] we need to build a layered system with different
[00:09:47] types
[00:09:50] of detection, meaning we must detect in any weather conditions and
[00:09:54] any threats, detect an aerial
[00:09:58] target at different altitudes, regardless of the speed of flight,
[00:10:02] accordingly, already receiving information
[00:10:06] about the characteristics of the target, at what altitude, at what speed, then
[00:10:09] we can talk about the choice of weapons that we will use
[00:10:13] against this drone. And accordingly, this can only be said when we
[00:10:17] can saturate our capabilities with different
[00:10:19] tools. At one time, mobile fire groups
[00:10:23] used Brownings, then they
[00:10:25] got, uh, MANPADS systems, then they got
[00:10:28] interceptor drones, similarly, one can say that
[00:10:32] what could be used now,
[00:10:35] in fact, we are not only shooting down aircraft, and in recent
[00:10:38] times it should be noted that some capabilities for
[00:10:42] interception have improved, I won't say what
[00:10:45] tools, but they are very strange, but they
[00:10:49] help, and well, no one
[00:10:53] ... to whom, well, we
[00:10:56] have been saying for a long time that it can be used, but again, this requires
[00:10:59] a good understanding of the aerial target, so here I would
[00:11:03] say that in any case we must build a system that
[00:11:07] will be capable of responding even to future
[00:11:10] challenges, because now the enemy uses reactive
[00:11:14] speed, then he adapts mesh communication
[00:11:17] more efficiently, that is, the possibility, we have already seen
[00:11:21] the use of mesh communication along the western border
[00:11:27] accordingly, it must be said that this is the next direction, where
[00:11:30] it is moving, the main problem, one must understand that the enemy
[00:11:34] has most of the air attack means that he is currently using, instead
[00:11:38] of cruise missiles, these are unified tools,
[00:11:42] because if you look at the GPS antenna,
[00:11:45] which discards any deviations and
[00:11:49] receives navigation data, a unified system that can work
[00:11:52] on banderole, which can work on... which works on the
[00:11:56] MPK cabo module, communication system,
[00:12:00] navigation, cameras, all this is
[00:12:03] cheap Chinese, which is supplied by wagons,
[00:12:06] in containers from China, and
[00:12:09] accordingly, this allowed Russia to scale up the volume of such
[00:12:13] production and quickly modernize, because, for example, Geranium 3
[00:12:17] was a regular, regular Geranium
[00:12:20] with a WSO, but they put a jet engine on it, so they couldn't accelerate.
[00:12:25] So they strengthened the body and accordingly, now the form factor
[00:12:28] is changing, that is, there is a carpet
[00:12:31] or a banderole or
[00:12:34] a shahed or a karar 5, a karar drone
[00:12:37] Serany 5, this is a drone-missile, accordingly, we need to
[00:12:41] say that they did what was constantly unified,
[00:12:45] elements that can be used to assemble various tools
[00:12:48] and use them at the station without raising
[00:12:51] expensive strategic aviation, without raising expensive.
[00:12:56] And I understand that forecasts are always a thankless task, but I have heard
[00:13:00] that Ukraine will receive full protection against missile
[00:13:03] drones in about two months, and against
[00:13:06] ballistic missiles in about six months. Do you agree with this statement, or is it
[00:13:10] too optimistic, or too pessimistic? How are
[00:13:14] things progressing here?
[00:13:17] To receive, this means to receive from our Western companies, when there
[00:13:21] is an air-to-air missile, and they are modernizing nine of them.
[00:13:25] Or it is modernized under a ground platform and
[00:13:28] certain technical capabilities are being improved in order to be
[00:13:31] able to intercept airborne targets. It must be
[00:13:34] said that I will not correct it,
[00:13:37] only someone mistakenly said that it can intercept ballistic missiles, it
[00:13:41] cannot intercept ballistic missiles, because the speed does not allow it and the guidance systems do not
[00:13:45] allow it. This is exclusively
[00:13:47] a tactical air defense system that will work against
[00:13:51] cruise missiles, against planes, against jet drones.
[00:13:55] Uh, therefore, I would say that we now need not
[00:13:58] to wait again for our Western partners to provide something, but to do
[00:14:02] our own. A good example of capability regarding strikes
[00:14:05] deep into the territory of the Russian Federation. When we started producing our
[00:14:09] own means, Russia is now striving to gain
[00:14:12] energy dominance. Therefore, it must be said that when we
[00:14:16] are able to independently create means to counter such
[00:14:19] a threat, this will be the best solution. Of course,
[00:14:23] we won't be able to do it independently, but... when we combine efforts with
[00:14:27] our Western partners at the level of partnership and
[00:14:30] technology transfer, then we will have more
[00:14:34] opportunities. We logically came to the conversation about deep strikes,
[00:14:37] you mentioned long-range strikes on
[00:14:40] Russia, you know, there is no longer that feeling in
[00:14:44] society, as it was, for example, in May, in June, after another
[00:14:47] arrival, there is no such euphoria, on the one hand, people
[00:14:51] have probably gotten used to it, on the other hand, arrivals in Kyiv. in
[00:14:55] Ukraine also do not add much optimism, but here
[00:14:58] rather it is about Eric Schmidt, yes, about the former
[00:15:02] head of Google, who wrote a column, you obviously
[00:15:05] read it, about the fact that Ukraine
[00:15:08] is losing its advantage in the drone war with
[00:15:11] Russia, how objective is such
[00:15:14] an assessment?
[00:15:18] And this, in my opinion, is an assessment that forces
[00:15:22] us to again address a number of questions, what are we... or me
[00:15:25] like that, uh, here
[00:15:28] there is, uh, correct, such, correct, high-quality feedback
[00:15:32] from a person who works with drones, and there, accordingly,
[00:15:35] it must be said that his advice should be listened to,
[00:15:39] and you are again pushing me towards the topic
[00:15:42] of interaction with Western partners about accelerating our
[00:15:46] technologies, because we are significantly dependent on Chinese
[00:15:49] components. In order to start producing our own components, we
[00:15:52] need millions of investments to create factories that will
[00:15:56] produce flight controllers, produce
[00:15:59] engines. Well, we produce engines, but we still buy magnets
[00:16:03] from China. Accordingly, it must be said that we need
[00:16:07] a unified strategy for the development of the defense industry, which will fit into the strategy
[00:16:11] of the European Union, at least the countries that help
[00:16:14] us and actively help, not express their
[00:16:18] concern, but actually help us with weapons, help us
[00:16:21] with money. Accordingly, we need to talk about uniting efforts, creating
[00:16:25] a single communication center that will make decisions
[00:16:28] about what weapons, what companies start to make,
[00:16:32] develop, and where we get invest...
[00:16:34] investments, money from frozen accounts
[00:16:38] of the Russian Federation. Mr. Anatoliy, I thank you for the conversation, for sharing
[00:16:41] your impressions from the Polish exhibition and for such
[00:16:44] a certain strategic vision, such a contour you have drawn, what needs
[00:16:48] to be done, in particular in partnership with Europeans, because if Russia has
[00:16:51] its rear - it's China, then we obviously have our rear - it's Europe, and
[00:16:54] in particular those same component factories that you
[00:16:58] are talking about, we probably need to place them somewhere there, in order
[00:17:01] to protect them from Russian attacks, which will obviously
[00:17:05] intensify. Thank you, all the best. The peculiarity
[00:17:08] of this war is that it is the first such lightning-fast technological
[00:17:12] race. Between the invention of the submarine and
[00:17:15] sonar, 140 years passed. Between the use
[00:17:19] of poisonous gases and gas masks - 110, and between mines and
[00:17:22] mine detectors - 80. In this war,
[00:17:26] between the invention of offensive and defensive weapons,
[00:17:29] only a few months can pass. That is why
[00:17:32] today's engineers are also a bit of strategists who must
[00:17:36] understand where the war will go. At one of the
[00:17:39] largest European defense exhibitions in Kielce,
[00:17:42] the stands of Ukrainian manufacturers were at the top. Now we hope
[00:17:46] for conveyor production, which will make it easier
[00:17:50] for us, more painful
[00:17:51] for the enemy.
[00:17:56] If the Coral air defense system protects our sky, then
[00:17:59] the Ram-2X kamikaze drone has been attacking the enemy for two
[00:18:02] years, on the second line of the front and in
[00:18:06] Crimea. But... it was also presented for the first time,
[00:18:09] our troops fly into the second
[00:18:13] echelon
[00:18:16] of Russian troops, and there, finding
[00:18:19] the target, that is, either air defense, or radar,
[00:18:23] or other expensive equipment, they destroy it
[00:18:26] thanks to the Ram-2X product. Reactive
[00:18:29] drones, which currently terrorize Ukraine, will soon
[00:18:32] fly back to Russia as boomerangs. In Kielce,
[00:18:36] a turbojet engine for the Bars drone
[00:18:39] was presented, which successfully passed the final test. The drone
[00:18:43] itself has existed for more than a year, but previously it was assembled with imported
[00:18:46] engines, which is expensive, and there will always be a shortage of them.
[00:18:50] But now the localization level of the Bars exceeds
[00:18:53] 74%. And this means that its own power
[00:18:57] plant will allow to scale up the production
[00:19:00] of jet drones many times faster, without waiting for
[00:19:03] permits or supplies from foreign partners.
[00:19:07] That is, the Russians should prepare to experience the
[00:19:11] same thing that Kyivans are now experiencing. Just
[00:19:13] a little more. And this is a development that could protect the sky over
[00:19:17] Ukraine, the Shershen air defense system. This is an air defense system that does not depend on
[00:19:21] one type of missile and can launch five
[00:19:24] different types of them at targets. And therefore, the military will not be deterred
[00:19:28] by a lack of supplies. The complex can use both
[00:19:31] Soviet missiles like R-60, R-73
[00:19:35] and R-27, as well as Western
[00:19:38] AIM9 and Aim-132.
[00:19:41] According to the capabilities of the missiles, the short-range complex is analogous to
[00:19:44] the German IRIS-T
[00:19:47] SLM or the Norwegian-American
[00:19:50] NASAMS. It takes six months to produce one complex,
[00:19:54] and to launch mass production -
[00:19:57] money. The Russians destroyed all the manufacturer's capacities in Ukraine,
[00:20:01] but cooperation abroad has already begun.
[00:20:04] At the exhibition in Kielce, the Poles unexpectedly
[00:20:07] learned that the fifth president of Ukraine, whom
[00:20:11] they know, but primarily for his company's sweets,
[00:20:15] is now also an arms baron. Petro Poroshenko
[00:20:18] personally visited the exhibition to present the Rep
[00:20:21] Aetry system, in which he has long invested. This
[00:20:25] complex is a serious problem for Russian cabins and
[00:20:28] drones. It operates in a wide range
[00:20:31] of frequencies, from 300 to 6000 MHz.
[00:20:35] It scans the space at 360
[00:20:38] and can rotate on a rotating platform. The complex
[00:20:42] is mobile, it is installed on a regular pickup truck, and
[00:20:45] a crew of two people can deploy the system in just
[00:20:49] 10 minutes. About 400 such
[00:20:52] complexes are already working on the line of contact. Polish
[00:20:56] generals, who closely followed Ukrainian novelties,
[00:20:59] understand how much priorities have changed.
[00:21:02] No one will fight an old
[00:21:05] war. There is a change in thinking in Poland, we do not want
[00:21:08] to continue such purchases that are difficult to accept on the battlefield. Ukraine
[00:21:12] shows this, if we have to wait for ammunition that will be brought in within
[00:21:16] a few weeks, or maybe a month, then by the time it arrives, it may...
[00:21:21] New developments and their scaling require
[00:21:24] colossal funds and a reliable European
[00:21:27] rear. The Poles promise not to
[00:21:30] abandon us. 99% of donations that
[00:21:33] come to Ukraine pass through Poland. A whole logistics system was created
[00:21:37] in our country specifically to support Ukraine. I
[00:21:41] am absolutely convinced that Ukraine will win this
[00:21:43] war. Well, we have learned
[00:21:47] to create our own air defense, build jet engines, and
[00:21:51] close the sky with electronic warfare. Ukraine will definitely
[00:21:54] stand firm in the air war with Russia, for which this may
[00:21:57] be the last chance, because the news from
[00:22:00] the front certainly does not please the Kremlin. What happened
[00:22:04] last week? More in
[00:22:06] the review.
[00:22:11] The commander of the Center Group of Forces, created to defend
[00:22:14] the Sloviansk-Kramatorsk agglomeration of cities, as well as
[00:22:18] the entire territory of Donetsk region, which is under our control,
[00:22:21] began to partially unveil the curtain of secrecy about
[00:22:25] the counteroffensive campaign of the defense forces in the
[00:22:28] Lyman direction. The operation
[00:22:31] was named Vivaldi, hinting that
[00:22:34] it began in spring, it will not end even in autumn, and may even
[00:22:38] become cyclical. It is worth noting the uniqueness of
[00:22:41] Vivaldi, which took place in complete
[00:22:44] informational silence. Not only Ukrainian military
[00:22:48] analysts and observers kept silent about the
[00:22:52] course of the operation, but international OSINT analysts voluntarily
[00:22:55] joined and supported the secrecy regime, not
[00:22:59] telling the world about the successes
[00:23:02] of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The regime of informational silence allowed not only
[00:23:05] our military to operate successfully, but also provided
[00:23:08] cover for Russian generals, who could
[00:23:11] continue to lie to the top. Thus, at the time
[00:23:15] when Vivaldi was already hitting high notes, Putin
[00:23:18] was still saying that his troops were capturing
[00:23:21] Sviatohirsk, which even before the operation was
[00:23:24] 13 km from the front. The first to sound the alarm were Russian
[00:23:28] war correspondents. They saw how much the official information from
[00:23:32] the General Staff differed from the realities on the ground.
[00:23:35] At first, these were cautious warnings, but already
[00:23:39] recently, even recently, even those who work very closely
[00:23:42] with the Russian Ministry of Defense began
[00:23:45] to draw maps on which a salient with an area of more than
[00:23:48] 200 km,
[00:23:50] which hung over Lyman from the north, is almost
[00:23:53] completely cut off, and the occupying forces are trying
[00:23:57] to hold on to the western bank of the Zherebets River,
[00:24:01] and only after that did international OSINT analysts,
[00:24:05] such as, for example, Klement Molen, start talking about
[00:24:08] the successes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Lyman region. However,
[00:24:11] the Russian information space you can never believe,
[00:24:15] although it is a certain marker. Instead, officially,
[00:24:19] Andriy only informed about that section
[00:24:22] of the front that is no longer part of the operation zone
[00:24:26] and is safe for our military, and that is
[00:24:29] 85 km on the western
[00:24:33] bank of the Netrius River, which the Russians tried
[00:24:36] to force crossing since December of last year. At the same time,
[00:24:40] the commander of the third corps noted that
[00:24:42] 75 of them are clearing territories in the area
[00:24:46] of Oleksandrivka, Yarova and
[00:24:49] Korovy Yar, and thereby recognized the fact of enemy infiltration
[00:24:53] up to 9 km deep into our defense, which
[00:24:56] took place in the spring of this year. At the same time, the liberation of the villages
[00:25:00] Serednie and Novoselevka, as well as the advance into
[00:25:02] Shandrygolovovo, this is already de-occupation,
[00:25:06] which took place in May on both
[00:25:09] banks of the river. A devastating blow was dealt to
[00:25:12] the combat capability of the 20th and 25th armies
[00:25:15] of the Russian Federation, says Biletsky. Considering that as many as two...
[00:25:20] combined arms armies of the occupiers could not be located in several
[00:25:24] villages, the commander thus announces the following
[00:25:27] events that the Armed Forces of Ukraine implemented throughout
[00:25:30] the summer. In particular, they exerted active pressure on
[00:25:34] the Lyman salient from three sides, from the west to
[00:25:37] Zelena Dolyna, from the north to Katerynivka and Nove, and from
[00:25:41] the south in the area of the villages Kolodiazy and
[00:25:43] Bilohorivka. Simultaneously, our
[00:25:46] drones cut off logistics, hitting deep first
[00:25:50] by 50 km, and then further. This forced
[00:25:53] the occupiers to dismantle the built pipeline and move
[00:25:57] fuel supplies from Luhansk region outside Ukraine
[00:26:00] to Voronezh Oblast. Without going into details and
[00:26:04] specifics, one can only point to the general
[00:26:07] logic that the Vivaldi operation
[00:26:10] may have, in particular, to straighten the front along the Zherebets River. For this, the defense forces
[00:26:14] need not only to cut off the Lyman
[00:26:18] salient, but also to liberate Zarichne and advance east
[00:26:21] of Yampol, having previously also completely
[00:26:24] cleared this town, which has been under
[00:26:28] mutual control for six months. In open sources, there is now a lot of
[00:26:31] information that... The ultimate goal of the operation is to reach the bank
[00:26:35] of the Black Zherebets River, but our operation is called Vivaldi,
[00:26:38] and Vivaldi, as you know, has four seasons, and this is only
[00:26:42] the first of them, so follow our official announcements and
[00:26:46] do not rush with spoilers, good news will come. All this will allow
[00:26:50] not only to secure Lyman, but to completely eliminate the threat
[00:26:54] of Russians bypassing Sloviansk from the north. Thus, the enemy will have
[00:26:58] no other choice than to storm our
[00:27:01] most powerful fortifications in Donetsk region head-on,
[00:27:04] breaking through fields to the outskirts of Kramatorsk and
[00:27:07] Sloviansk, as well as through the urban jungle
[00:27:10] of Kostiantynivka and Druzhkivka. And all
[00:27:13] the decisions of the new command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are now aimed at
[00:27:16] strengthening the defense capabilities of these cities. After personnel
[00:27:19] decisions, reinforcements followed with assault regiments and
[00:27:23] drone systems. As a result, Kostiantynivka,
[00:27:26] which the occupiers, according to their official sources,
[00:27:30] captured back in July, firmly holds its defenses, and General
[00:27:34] Hrunis, who reported the capture of Kostiantynivka, was recently
[00:27:37] eliminated by the SBS Raroh brigade.
[00:27:41] In the city itself, having not had significant
[00:27:44] success for a month, the enemy significantly reduced its activity and again shifted it
[00:27:48] more to the flanks. From the right flank in September
[00:27:52] they expanded their control zone to the north along the city by
[00:27:55] more than 2.5 km, and also
[00:27:58] directed the vector of their attack to the west, capturing
[00:28:01] part of the long beam and moving in
[00:28:04] the direction of Mykolaypillya, to meet them
[00:28:07] in a parallel course is another vector of attack aimed at
[00:28:11] Raiyski. The goal of both is not only to encircle Kostiantynivka, but
[00:28:14] also to get as close as possible to Druzhkivka, so that before winter
[00:28:18] they can start fighting for it, because wintering in the field is a
[00:28:21] deadly prospect for them. Already now in Druzhkivka, the defense
[00:28:25] forces are neutralizing lone infiltrators. From the left
[00:28:28] flank, the enemy almost occupied Chasiv Yar and advanced
[00:28:32] to Mykolaivka and Chervone. The 24th mechanized brigade,
[00:28:36] which held the defense of this sector for almost 2.5 years,
[00:28:39] is gradually being replaced by the 46th brigade
[00:28:42] of airborne assault troops, which will be forced to maintain circular
[00:28:46] defense, as Russian assault troops here are trying to
[00:28:49] repeat the right-flank maneuver and advance to
[00:28:52] the north along the city, attacking the village of
[00:28:55] Novodmytrivka and Yizhivka. Meanwhile,
[00:28:59] on the Sloviansk and Kramatorsk fronts, the
[00:29:02] negative trend of gradual advance towards the cities
[00:29:05] from the east continues. It was here in September that the Russians captured the most
[00:29:09] territory. Let's consider the most critical sections of the front.
[00:29:12] The advance in part of the village of Markovo allowed the enemy to firmly
[00:29:16] entrench themselves on the right bank of the Siversky Donets-Donbas
[00:29:19] canal, which is laid along the highest points of the
[00:29:23] heights that hang over the agglomeration. Control
[00:29:26] of the heights will give a great advantage in the battles for the cities. Therefore,
[00:29:30] the occupiers will continue to move north.
[00:29:33] Battles are currently underway for our positions in Malynivka and
[00:29:37] Tykhonivka. Further north, the Russian army occupied
[00:29:40] Fedorivka Druha and advanced towards Rai-Oleksandrivka, whose defenders
[00:29:44] found themselves squeezed from both
[00:29:47] flanks. And east of our fortified area, the enemy is gradually
[00:29:50] closing the last large pocket, thereby
[00:29:53] straightening the front and forming new vectors
[00:29:56] of attack. In particular, on the villages of Orikhuvatka,
[00:29:59] Zapovidne and, most importantly, on the city of Mykolaivka, where the
[00:30:03] Sloviansk TPP is located. In Mykolaivka itself, rifle battles
[00:30:07] are already regular. The enemy is breaking through here again from
[00:30:11] both flanks, from the south and north. Individual assault troops
[00:30:14] have already tried to entrench themselves on the territory of the TPP,
[00:30:17] where they were destroyed. The trends are alarming, as
[00:30:20] Mykolaivka is the gateway for an offensive on Sloviansk. If
[00:30:24] загрозу з боку Лиману вдалося відбити, то тут вона із
[00:30:28] becomes more and more obvious every week. Nevertheless, in a
[00:30:31] public speech, the head of the defense of Sloviansk
[00:30:35] and Kramatorsk, Andriy Biletsky, stated that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are able not
[00:30:39] only to hold.