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[00:00:00] occupied Fedorivka Druha and advanced towards Rai
[00:00:03] Oleksandrivka, whose defenders found themselves squeezed from
[00:00:06] both flanks. To the east of our fortified area, the enemy is gradually
[00:00:10] closing the last large pocket, thereby
[00:00:13] straightening the front and forming new vectors of
[00:00:16] attack, particularly on the villages of Orikhuvatka,
[00:00:19] Zapovidne, and most importantly, on the city of Mykolaivka, where the
[00:00:23] Sloviansk TPP is located. In Mykolaivka itself, regular
[00:00:27] small arms battles are already taking place. The enemy is breaking through again from both
[00:00:31] flanks, from the south and north. Separate assault groups
[00:00:34] have already tried to entrench themselves on the territory of the TPP,
[00:00:37] where they were destroyed. The trends are threatening, as
[00:00:40] Mykolaivka is a gateway for an offensive on Sloviansk. If
[00:00:44] the threat from Lyman was repelled, here it becomes increasingly
[00:00:48] obvious every week. Nevertheless, with a public
[00:00:51] statement, the head of the defense of Sloviansk and Kramatorsk, Andriy Biletskyi,
[00:00:55] stated that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are able not only to hold
[00:00:59] the belt of fortified cities, but also
[00:01:02] to improve their positions here in anticipation of
[00:01:05] mobilization in Russia, since we will not see the results
[00:01:08] of mobilization on the front earlier than November,
[00:01:11] December, so it is likely that soon we will be able
[00:01:15] to observe a certain change in the logic of battles for cities,
[00:01:18] based on the types of troops that came here to
[00:01:21] reinforce the 11th Army Corps, so
[00:01:25] soon we will see how the new commander
[00:01:28] will resolve the crisis, which is the biggest of all
[00:01:31] others on the entire thousand-kilometer
[00:01:35] front. This was the program "Eastern Shield." We will talk about the main
[00:01:39] trends of the war, both on the front and in the rear,
[00:01:42] in a week.
[00:02:09] My dad is a defender of Ukraine, he is a military man and now
[00:02:13] defends our Ukraine, my dad
[00:02:16] is a combat medic, he saves and
[00:02:19] treats wounded defenders, my dad is the best
[00:02:22] for me, dad is my hero, I love
[00:02:26] him very much and want him to come back soon, I really
[00:02:30] miss him, sometimes I can just
[00:02:33] cry when I remember
[00:02:36] him, I love him very
[00:02:39] much and wait for him every day, I love him very much,
[00:02:43] I'm waiting for him to come home, thank you, dad,
[00:02:46] for protecting us, thank you, dad, thank you,
[00:02:50] dad, thank you,
[00:02:52] dad.
[00:03:11] Winter Waltz, I think all our presenters have held
[00:03:14] these blankets in their hands. Listen, this is
[00:03:17] sheep's wool, and these are new ones we
[00:03:21] have, listen, how fluffy they are, how
[00:03:24] they are so, you know, high, fluffy,
[00:03:28] fluffy, and how warm are they?
[00:03:30] They cannot not warm, they cannot not be soft,
[00:03:34] because this is our sheep's wool, well, who would
[00:03:37] openly ignore these blankets, just
[00:03:41] turn around and leave, because these blankets, by all accounts, are simply
[00:03:45] a godsend, I will understand people who say this
[00:03:49] is expensive, because such blankets are indeed expensive, this
[00:03:53] is expensive, yes, they are an order of magnitude more expensive
[00:03:56] than with sintepon itself.
[00:04:01] Look how beautiful they are, with flowers, and stars, and some
[00:04:05] camels, oh, and different colors, and the price, you know,
[00:04:09] what it will be for them, well, you probably think, 1005, you are right, by
[00:04:13] the way, in stores they are 500, 5-6, ours
[00:04:17] start from 1299
[00:04:20] UAH, in four different sizes,
[00:04:24] single, one and a half double, double
[00:04:27] and euro, this is the largest
[00:04:30] and five different colors, so let's look at
[00:04:34] them with you, so this is our stars, called with
[00:04:38] white, with white wool, please look, now I will
[00:04:41] show you, beautiful, right, cool, it's such a, oh my,
[00:04:45] it's a pity you can't feel it, it's so
[00:04:47] plushy, and now, let me just
[00:04:51] press it and I want you to see how it bounces back, so it won't
[00:04:55] clump, the height here, look, now I'll
[00:04:59] show you, look how thick it is, 4 cm,
[00:05:03] 4 cm, oh, how
[00:05:06] cool it is, and so you can spread it on the couch somewhere,
[00:05:10] next, next.
[00:05:13] This is called,
[00:05:16] now caravan, well, the
[00:05:19] chocolate one, look, it's as if bronze on this side,
[00:05:23] as if embroidered with gold, caravan, there's some
[00:05:26] chocolate here, it's also thick, thick,
[00:05:30] just a second, look at the height,
[00:05:32] and also densely filled,
[00:05:36] so you know, it won't sag, it's not only a blanket,
[00:05:39] you can spread it somewhere on the couch, on
[00:05:43] the bed, we have a lot of options for you,
[00:05:46] so this one is called flowers,
[00:05:50] gray wool, but gray is so, you know, light, this is how it looks,
[00:05:53] very light, great, you can wash it in the washing
[00:05:57] machine, don't be afraid, and the care for them
[00:06:00] just doesn't shed, they are hypoallergenic, and
[00:06:04] this one is, by the way, leaves, and look at the
[00:06:07] interesting wool, so purple, such
[00:06:10] deep, dark, rich. I would even say
[00:06:13] it's like a plum or some kind of eggplant
[00:06:16] color, so beautiful. Yes, yes.
[00:06:20] Next, behind my back now, I want to
[00:06:23] show you this, this is
[00:06:27] leaves with brown wool, some
[00:06:31] autumn leaves, and such dark colors
[00:06:34] of bitter chocolate, and at the same time look how they are stitched, these are
[00:06:38] quilted, quilted blankets, of course, they will
[00:06:41] not. clump,
[00:06:44] or get lumpy, so you don't have to worry
[00:06:47] that they will change their shape, this filling will be even,
[00:06:50] they are so stuffed, high, 4
[00:06:54] cm is the height of these blankets, this is a full mattress, this is a feather bed,
[00:06:57] excuse me, what a light one, it won't crush,
[00:07:00] you can sleep on this, and under this you can sleep, in summer,
[00:07:04] so you put it on top of the mattress,
[00:07:07] roll up, let's do this for sure, well, and from above and
[00:07:10] below, I actually slept like that, when my apartment, imagine,
[00:07:14] had zero temperature, I bought myself, bought another one, I
[00:07:18] lay on this blanket, and also covered myself, well
[00:07:21] and actually with my head, of course, but it was so
[00:07:25] warm that it was almost stuffy, not stuffy, you know, just
[00:07:28] so hot I overheated, they are very warm,
[00:07:32] these blankets are very cool in winter, well,
[00:07:35] I have a small apartment, I don't have mezzanines
[00:07:38] or any extra shelves and shelves to
[00:07:41] store all this. That's why in summer I sleep on
[00:07:45] these blankets, I only put the textile side down and
[00:07:49] just lie down, it's so soft to sleep on them, great, the blankets are wide,
[00:07:52] the blankets are high, I would even say, and very, very
[00:07:56] comfortable, the warmest of all that we have, and you save at least
[00:07:59] 1300 UAH on them, the off-air price will be 2,600,
[00:08:03] currently from 1299 UAH, hurry up to order and take care of yourselves,
[00:08:07] have a peaceful
[00:08:08] night.
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[00:09:34] Hello, you are watching the Saturday Hello Club with Vitaliy Portnikov. My name is
[00:09:37] Andriy Saichuk, Mr. Vitaliy, I hope you are joining us too, Mr. Vitaliy,
[00:09:41] I greet you.
[00:09:45] Hello, Mr. Andriy. Let's start, probably,
[00:09:48] with the topic of war. This week we have had many attacks on
[00:09:52] the railway. In general, statistics have been published, according to which
[00:09:56] about 40 locomotives are destroyed by Russia per
[00:09:59] month. And this week the attacks were
[00:10:02] very close to the so-called diplomatic trains.
[00:10:06] I am sure that they probably do not announce them in any way, and maybe there is
[00:10:10] some kind of information exchange even with the aggressor, nevertheless,
[00:10:13] these were very dangerous attacks, for
[00:10:16] example, in Yahodyn, a
[00:10:19] Russian Federation drone hit a locomotive, exactly when the train
[00:10:23] carrying Johnson and Bildt, i.e., former
[00:10:27] prime ministers of Great Britain and Sweden, was passing. Also,
[00:10:31] former CIA head David Petraeus
[00:10:32] was practically hastily
[00:10:35] evacuated in another story, meaning that
[00:10:39] Russia is hitting trains where
[00:10:41] European or American former
[00:10:44] high-ranking officials could be harmed
[00:10:47] or even killed. Are these, in your opinion,
[00:10:50] conscious acts?
[00:10:52] Well, I think that in a
[00:10:55] situation where we are discussing the transformation
[00:10:59] of life in Ukraine into
[00:11:01] constant attacks
[00:11:04] by Russian ballistic missiles,
[00:11:07] Russian jet
[00:11:11] drones, the fact that the Russians are hitting
[00:11:14] trains fits into this
[00:11:17] picture: the attempt to make the lives of Ukrainians
[00:11:21] unbearable, the attempt to
[00:11:24] isolate Ukraine from the outside world, it
[00:11:28] seems to me, much more important is the fact
[00:11:31] that Russia systematically hits border
[00:11:34] crossings, and it happened on the border with the Republic of Moldova,
[00:11:38] and it happened on the border with Poland this
[00:11:41] week, and this is the main
[00:11:44] goal. As for
[00:11:48] the fact that in the trains leaving
[00:11:51] Ukraine, there may be people who
[00:11:54] previously held high positions
[00:11:57] in their countries, it is unlikely
[00:12:00] that this corresponds to the safety
[00:12:03] protocol, because I
[00:12:07] assume that when some
[00:12:11] current Western leaders visit
[00:12:13] Ukraine, there may be certain
[00:12:16] messages, although I am not sure about
[00:12:19] this, to Moscow, that such a visit
[00:12:22] is taking place, although I will remind you that there was a situation
[00:12:26] when a Russian drone exploded
[00:12:29] in close proximity to the motorcade of Greek Prime Minister
[00:12:33] Mitsotakis in Odesa, it
[00:12:35] also happened, and his position, as we see, also did not
[00:12:38] protect him, well, as for the fact that people who were once
[00:12:42] figures in Western
[00:12:44] politics, to specifically be interested
[00:12:48] in the trains in which they travel, well, that
[00:12:52] seems to me a very big exaggeration, to put it mildly.
[00:12:55] There was an attack on a train with active
[00:12:59] national security advisors from European countries,
[00:13:03] as far as I understand, who were returning from
[00:13:06] Ukraine, because they
[00:13:09] participated in that meeting with
[00:13:12] Verhofstadt and, who
[00:13:14] first visited Moscow, then visited Kyiv, and
[00:13:17] there were Europeans, as you remember, there were reports that this
[00:13:21] train could have been hit by shelling, but
[00:13:25] again, we don't know how much the shelling and schedules
[00:13:28] coincide in terms of Russians receiving
[00:13:31] information, you understand that when shelling happens, when
[00:13:35] certain trains stop, and other trains stop behind them,
[00:13:38] it creates a certain degree of
[00:13:41] chaos, which also needs to be remembered,
[00:13:44] that here it's not particularly easy to track,
[00:13:47] so the figures of Boris Johnson or Carl Bildt are unlikely to be the main
[00:13:51] topic in this situation,
[00:13:55] but the main topic is first and foremost the attempt to isolate
[00:13:58] Ukraine from its neighbors. This is indeed
[00:14:02] alarming. Well, and generally these talks about Russia preparing
[00:14:06] many diversions and carrying
[00:14:09] them out now in Europe, there are also some mysterious deaths, just
[00:14:13] now, for example, two leaders of the Ukrainian diaspora in two
[00:14:17] European countries, almost simultaneous,
[00:14:20] also we have the statement
[00:14:24] of Admiral Giuseppe Cavo Dragone that the Russian Federation is preparing
[00:14:28] an attack on the eastern flank,
[00:14:31] we have extremely high activity of Russian
[00:14:34] drones near military bases in Great
[00:14:38] Britain and so on, so there are many, many signals,
[00:14:41] and what do they indicate, can
[00:14:45] Russia really dare to make some very
[00:14:48] serious provocations, and what pushes it to
[00:14:51] this? Well, we have talked about this repeatedly.
[00:14:56] There is an absolute logic of event
[00:14:59] development that can be traced practically from
[00:15:03] 2024
[00:15:06] from the presidential elections in the United States
[00:15:09] of America, when the Russians obviously had
[00:15:12] hopes,
[00:15:14] real hopes that
[00:15:17] they would
[00:15:19] succeed
[00:15:22] in resolving the issue of the Russian-Ukrainian war after the change of government
[00:15:26] in the United States, because they believed that the new president of the United States would
[00:15:29] negotiate with Putin, stop supporting
[00:15:33] Ukraine, and not act like his
[00:15:35] predecessor, you remember that Donald Trump generally
[00:15:39] promised to end the war quickly, and the Russians could hope that this
[00:15:42] end would be precisely
[00:15:44] connected
[00:15:46] with
[00:15:49] concessions in their favor, well, and
[00:15:52] even if there are no concessions, the mere absence of American aid would force
[00:15:56] Ukraine to capitulate. These were all the hopes for 2025,
[00:16:00] which did not
[00:16:02] end in anything serious and
[00:16:06] positive. And in 2026,
[00:16:09] something began that Russia could not have expected at all:
[00:16:13] attacks on the territory of the Russian
[00:16:15] Federation itself. You see that this very
[00:16:19] year, we certainly
[00:16:22] should not call it a turning point in the war, as it was in the first months
[00:16:26] when these attacks appeared,
[00:16:29] but it changed the war significantly,
[00:16:33] that is, now the economy of the Russian Federation itself suffers,
[00:16:36] its own security. In the Russian Federation, this
[00:16:39] is serious. And here the question arises, you analyze why this
[00:16:43] did not happen. Why our
[00:16:45] plan for Trump's victory in the US elections and the collapse of Ukraine turned out to be
[00:16:49] futile. Maybe Ukraine holds on so well?
[00:16:53] No. Europeans help it. It turned out
[00:16:57] that Europeans are ready to help
[00:17:00] Ukraine much more than they helped when
[00:17:04] Americans helped. Then the aid
[00:17:07] was based on Americans,
[00:17:10] now it is based on Europeans, so what do we need
[00:17:13] to do, force Europeans to stop
[00:17:16] helping,
[00:17:19] convince society in Europe that
[00:17:22] aid to Ukraine is a blow to their own security, create
[00:17:26] an atmosphere of danger there, pour
[00:17:28] gasoline, if speaking the words of
[00:17:32] Russian Chekists, that's exactly how they characterized their actions
[00:17:35] in eastern Ukraine in 2014.
[00:17:37] In
[00:17:39] fact,
[00:17:42] all these sabotages, all this hybrid
[00:17:46] warfare, all these appearances of
[00:17:49] drones in the airspace of European countries,
[00:17:52] and they very often have a clearly expressed
[00:17:56] pre-election nature, all these actions. I will remind you that
[00:17:59] recently there were elections in the German
[00:18:02] state of Saxony-Anhalt, where the far-right
[00:18:06] party "Alternative for Germany" triumphed, whose
[00:18:09] leaders do not conceal
[00:18:13] either their desire to stop helping Ukraine, or their desire
[00:18:17] to restore ties with Russia, or their desire to again receive Russian
[00:18:20] gas, cheap, they
[00:18:23] don't just talk about it openly, they hold
[00:18:27] meetings with the same Kirill Dmitriev,
[00:18:30] that is, they have such intentions, they have such plans, this is exactly
[00:18:34] the party that can suit Putin, and what
[00:18:37] happens? On the eve of these elections in Saxony,
[00:18:40] Anhalt, and by the way, elections in another East German state,
[00:18:44] Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, a whole fireworks
[00:18:47] of sabotage takes place in East
[00:18:49] Germany.
[00:18:52] We can assume that these acts of sabotage convince voters
[00:18:56] of Alternative for Germany and similar political forces that they should
[00:18:59] vote for those political parties that are ready to fight
[00:19:03] Russia, but we have our own experience, how
[00:19:07] our voter always tried to vote for someone who
[00:19:11] would negotiate with Putin,
[00:19:13] always, the idea that this person would negotiate with
[00:19:17] Moscow was a guiding star
[00:19:21] during any voting there, with the exception,
[00:19:24] perhaps, of the 2004
[00:19:27] elections.
[00:19:29] Here's your answer to the question
[00:19:32] why the East German voter,
[00:19:36] and there a huge number of people lived in
[00:19:39] a similar regime to the Soviet Ukrainian
[00:19:42] for decades, should react differently,
[00:19:46] the Russians are counting on this, that
[00:19:48] they will show voters in the territory of the former German
[00:19:51] Democratic Republic how
[00:19:54] risky it is to cast their vote for those who want confrontation with
[00:19:57] the Kremlin, they are succeeding, I asked
[00:20:01] myself the question, how will the decision of the German
[00:20:04] government to accuse
[00:20:08] Russia of organizing sabotage at Leipzig
[00:20:12] airport affect the mood of German
[00:20:16] voters in the state elections, will
[00:20:20] they understand the danger of Russia, or on the contrary, will they
[00:20:23] take it even
[00:20:24] more
[00:20:27] seriously if someone promises them to negotiate with Putin. The
[00:20:31] second option happened, almost expected.
[00:20:35] Valeriy Zaluzhnyy wrote about this, by the way, in a new article where he
[00:20:38] says that the fear of nuclear escalation, nuclear weapons,
[00:20:42] paralyzed our allies at the beginning of the war. Putin still
[00:20:45] hopes that this fear will paralyze European society,
[00:20:49] and such people as
[00:20:51] Merz will sooner or later be
[00:20:55] replaced by more, let's say, loyal
[00:20:59] politicians to him, or
[00:21:02] is he mistaken again in his assessments
[00:21:04] in reality?
[00:21:07] Well, you know, I don't know how much this is a fear of nuclear weapons as
[00:21:10] such, maybe it's a fear of war,
[00:21:14] well, people generally tend to be afraid
[00:21:17] of war, and they look for
[00:21:20] opportunities to prevent
[00:21:23] this war,
[00:21:25] and they very often grasp at some
[00:21:28] straw that seems to them a sufficiently
[00:21:31] serious tool to avoid trouble. Well,
[00:21:35] listen, again, why are we discussing Europeans, let's
[00:21:39] discuss Ukrainians. We have many people
[00:21:43] who believe that if we concede the territories
[00:21:46] of Donetsk and Luhansk regions, the war
[00:21:49] will end, because that's what Putin says,
[00:21:53] uh-huh,
[00:21:56] our government is unconstructive, because for the sake of a few cities in
[00:21:59] Donbas, it agrees to
[00:22:02] the destruction
[00:22:04] of other Ukrainian cities, that is, these people honestly believe that
[00:22:08] Putin has been waging this war for 4.5
[00:22:10] years, agreed to huge Western
[00:22:14] sanctions, the deaths of thousands of his
[00:22:18] compatriots, spending billions on this war
[00:22:21] solely to get to Kramatorsk, and as
[00:22:25] soon as he gets to Kramatorsk, all his
[00:22:28] interest in Ukraine will end, he doesn't need
[00:22:31] Ukraine anymore, why, only because these people don't live in
[00:22:34] Kramatorsk, and they
[00:22:37] think that if Putin is satisfied with Kramatorsk, then
[00:22:40] he will no longer have any claims
[00:22:44] to their city, he will have no interest,
[00:22:47] why would he, relatively speaking,
[00:22:50] go to Odesa and even more to Zhytomyr
[00:22:54] or
[00:22:58] Ternopil, he has no such interest, he only needs Donetsk,
[00:23:02] they believe in that, and Putin helps them believe in it
[00:23:05] when he says that the capture of Donetsk region will be
[00:23:08] an indispensable condition for negotiations, he doesn't even say for peace, he
[00:23:11] says for negotiations, in principle he promises these people nothing real, as always,
[00:23:15] but they are ready to believe, they grab onto these
[00:23:18] words of the Russian leader, again, not
[00:23:22] for the first time, and these are people who live in war, who
[00:23:25] saw that Putin sent his troops to Kyiv and to
[00:23:29] Chernihiv, and not just to Donetsk,
[00:23:32] who in principle should not be deceived by this whole story,
[00:23:35] but they want to believe in the unrealistic, because this unrealistic,
[00:23:38] at least in their dreams, deprives them of rocket attacks,
[00:23:42] arrivals, drones, deaths, suffering, and
[00:23:45] they believe in information convenient for them. Very often people, under the influence of such
[00:23:51] convenient information, arranged revolutions,
[00:23:55] coups, agreed to the terms
[00:23:58] of the enemy, and then happily died
[00:24:01] with their families in mass graves. How are Europeans
[00:24:05] different? They are also people, they can
[00:24:07] believe
[00:24:10] that Russia is only interested in
[00:24:13] Ukraine,
[00:24:16] or perhaps in the former Soviet republics, well, that was generally
[00:24:19] Russia. You ask a average European what that
[00:24:23] was at all, it was Russia, a huge number of people in Europe, the vast
[00:24:26] majority, still do not distinguish, especially, Ukraine from Russia, well, maybe someone
[00:24:30] thinks that Ukrainians are more free than Russians, so to
[00:24:33] speak, well, they were more free, they will become less free, they will sort
[00:24:37] it out without us, let them sort it out
[00:24:40] themselves, well, we did not make much distinction
[00:24:44] in Ukraine between Castilians and Catalans in Spain, and
[00:24:48] when Catalonia declared
[00:24:51] independence
[00:24:54] from Spain, even if it was illegitimate for three days, we considered it separatism, it's generally Spanish, although
[00:24:58] Catalans themselves may not consider themselves Spanish, but what do we care,
[00:25:02] we need peace in Spain, so we can vacation there,
[00:25:05] hypothetically, if we talk about the average European, even about
[00:25:09] a pre-war Ukrainian, why do we need any problems in
[00:25:12] Barcelona, we want to live
[00:25:15] peacefully, well, excuse me, for the average
[00:25:18] European, Barcelona and is much closer than Ukraine, with its
[00:25:22] problems, most Europeans learned about Ukraine only when we
[00:25:26] started being bombed, for an ordinary
[00:25:29] citizen, it's just a continuation of Russia, some
[00:25:32] ordinariness, I'm not even talking about an ordinary American, the fact that
[00:25:36] people started distinguishing,
[00:25:39] this is already an event of the last few years, not
[00:25:42] decades,
[00:25:44] because for them it was clear that the Soviet Union collapsed, what is the Soviet Union,
[00:25:48] Russia collapsed, well, it collapsed, as it collapsed, so it can
[00:25:50] gather, and this is not the first time this has happened, when
[00:25:54] there was a war in Yugoslavia, most people in Europe perceived it the same way,
[00:25:57] well, there was Yugoslavia, it collapsed, they are fighting there,
[00:26:01] what do we have to do with it? So that nothing happens to us, so that this
[00:26:04] war does not spread to our
[00:26:06] lands,
[00:26:09] that's all, and here some European politicians
[00:26:12] like Merz appear, who say no, you don't understand, we won't avoid
[00:26:15] war, it will come to our lands, what a horror, and there are
[00:26:19] people who say, listen, they are deceiving you to profit from the
[00:26:23] military-industrial complex, so that you paid more
[00:26:25] taxes, or spent more
[00:26:29] money,
[00:26:32] and people... start to wonder: why did I start paying 50%
[00:26:35] taxes? What happened? Why are gas prices
[00:26:39] so high? And Trump said why? Because Ukraine is attacking
[00:26:42] Russia. Who can really vote for some
[00:26:46] normal person who does not speculate on such things, does not speculate on
[00:26:50] war. And this person
[00:26:53] will help peace. Well, let them
[00:26:56] conquer this Ukraine and calm down and there will be peace. Simple logic, I
[00:27:00] think. Gabrielius Landsbergis,
[00:27:04] Lithuanian politician, former Minister of Foreign Affairs,
[00:27:08] he said recently that Europe will defeat
[00:27:11] Russia in any case, but the question is where exactly, whether in
[00:27:15] Ukraine, or in Poland, or even in
[00:27:18] Berlin, and I think that Lithuanian politicians,
[00:27:21] the Baltic countries in general, have always had a sober, very
[00:27:25] clear, crystal-clear perspective when looking at Russian,
[00:27:29] imperial ambitions after the 90s.
[00:27:33] Is this opinion still prevailing, or
[00:27:37] do Europeans, the establishment, still understand that, that in Ukraine
[00:27:41] this war must be won, if they don't, well, we have a statement,
[00:27:45] for example, from Radek Sikorski, who was Minister of Defense, was Deputy
[00:27:48] Minister of Defense, a person who knows what the armed forces
[00:27:52] of Poland are, who said quite, I don't know, dismissively, that
[00:27:56] Poland would easily defeat Russia if it came to an open
[00:28:00] conflict.
[00:28:05] Again, in what parameters would this conflict
[00:28:07] take place?
[00:28:11] Donald Trump probably would have thought
[00:28:12] that
[00:28:15] the United States would easily defeat Iran, right?
[00:28:17] He told us about it countless times.
[00:28:21] And at Donald Trump's disposal,
[00:28:24] if we talk about the United States and Iran, forces that cannot even
[00:28:28] be compared to
[00:28:31] the forces that Poland has. Poland wants to have an American
[00:28:34] military base, not America, not America Poland,
[00:28:37] right? And then it turned out that in modern
[00:28:41] warfare, all this power is not
[00:28:44] worth that much, actually.
[00:28:48] Well, look,
[00:28:50] really, what about this power?
[00:28:54] Now the United States reports that they
[00:28:57] are delaying the supply of modern weapons to their European
[00:29:00] allies, including. And Poland
[00:29:02] probably, somewhere up to 5 years for certain
[00:29:06] nomenclature, up to 5 years the United States is going to
[00:29:09] replenish its stockpiles of weapons, already depleted in one
[00:29:13] single miserable war, excuse me, with
[00:29:15] Iran,
[00:29:17] where the United States controls the sky, controls
[00:29:20] the sky, but there are no missiles.
[00:29:24] Now let's imagine the optimistic
[00:29:27] words of the Polish Foreign Minister regarding
[00:29:30] the victory over Russia, this is... the question is where to
[00:29:34] achieve this victory, so let's imagine
[00:29:38] a real Russian-Polish war only
[00:29:41] without an army, when such a swarm
[00:29:45] of drones appears in the sky of Poland, will attack
[00:29:48] Polish strategic
[00:29:51] objects, what should Poland do in
[00:29:54] response, probably attack Russian,
[00:29:57] right,
[00:30:00] or still activate Article Five. And ballistic missiles will immediately
[00:30:04] arrive from Russia, not just
[00:30:06] drones, but how will Russian ballistic missiles
[00:30:10] fly to Poland, to
[00:30:12] Poland,
[00:30:14] from what distance, from the Kaliningrad region, well,
[00:30:18] in principle, yes, unless through, unless Ukraine remains in such a case
[00:30:21] a buffer, well, I think Sikorski still meant some worse
[00:30:25] situations, when it means that ballistic missiles will already
[00:30:28] fly from the Russian Yavoriv training ground.
[00:30:32] Well, you see how important Ukraine is for Poland, because
[00:30:36] if Russia occupies Ukraine and
[00:30:40] ballistic missiles fly over the eastern regions of Poland, that's a completely different story
[00:30:43] than just jet drones, right? Of course. The drone still has
[00:30:47] to fly through Ukraine. Well, okay, we're just
[00:30:51] purely theoretically analyzing this situation. So it all
[00:30:54] flew. Poland is unlikely to respond immediately, but
[00:30:58] activates NATO's Article Five.