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[00:00:00] or still activate the fifth NATO station, the ballistics will
[00:00:03] immediately arrive from Russia, not only
[00:00:06] drones, but if it flies to Poland,
[00:00:10] Russian ballistics, to
[00:00:12] Poland, from what
[00:00:15] distance, from Kaliningrad region, well,
[00:00:18] in principle, yes, unless through unless Ukraine remains a buffer in such a case,
[00:00:21] I think Sikorsky still meant some worse
[00:00:25] situations, when that, well, it means that ballistics will
[00:00:28] already fly from...
[00:00:33] well, you see how important Ukraine is for Poland, because
[00:00:36] if Russia occupies Ukraine and
[00:00:40] ballistics fly over the eastern regions of Poland, that's a completely different story than
[00:00:43] just reactive drones, right? Of course. The drone still has
[00:00:47] to fly through Ukraine. Well, okay, we're just
[00:00:51] purely theoretically analyzing this situation. So everything
[00:00:54] flew. Poland is unlikely to respond immediately, but
[00:00:58] activates Article Five of NATO. And
[00:01:01] during
[00:01:04] the meeting of the defense ministers of NATO
[00:01:06] member states, the American Secretary
[00:01:09] of Defense,
[00:01:13] or some European ones, tell the Poles, you know, it's very
[00:01:17] important that you repel these attacks, we will provide you with more
[00:01:20] Patriot batteries and more anti-missile equipment, but please
[00:01:24] do not hit the territory of the Russian
[00:01:27] Federation itself, because this can lead
[00:01:30] to a real nuclear conflict, so please, defeat Russia in
[00:01:34] your own territory, we will strengthen your anti-missile defense, it
[00:01:38] may be, quite, well,
[00:01:41] that's the fear of nuclear
[00:01:45] war, because if, hypothetically,
[00:01:49] Russia strikes with a nuclear missile at
[00:01:51] Ukraine, this does not require a nuclear
[00:01:54] response from the United
[00:01:56] States,
[00:01:59] well, this can... deep concern, this can cause new
[00:02:02] serious sanctions, this can cause a lot, but we don't
[00:02:05] know how ready the United States will be, even under
[00:02:09] Trump, we knew, we knew there wasn't a forceful strike on Russia in such a
[00:02:12] situation, much worse, we knew,
[00:02:16] Mr. Vitaly, under Biden, that they had this
[00:02:19] tiger committee or whatever it was called, which
[00:02:22] developed, in principle, the course of action, what they would do in case
[00:02:26] even tactical nuclear weapons were used on the territory of Ukraine, that is, there should have been an immediate
[00:02:30] strike with conventional weapons, but American conventional weapons - that's
[00:02:33] also not insignificant, let's say, they could have completely destroyed, for example, the Baltic
[00:02:37] fleet with one strike,
[00:02:40] well, again, the conventional weapons of the United States -
[00:02:43] that's a serious thing, but we see how these conventional weapons worked against
[00:02:46] Iran, they even destroyed the Iranian
[00:02:49] fleet, well, they destroyed it, and
[00:02:52] so what,
[00:02:54] how did this generally affect their ability to control
[00:02:57] the situation in Iran. There is no US fleet,
[00:03:01] there is no Romanian Strait, and everything else is very
[00:03:03] good.
[00:03:05] Therefore, here too there is always the question that the United States, with conventional weapons,
[00:03:09] will destroy something in Russia, but will they create real conditions
[00:03:12] for the security of their allies in Europe, for their own military
[00:03:16] facilities.
[00:03:19] Again, we are talking about new technologies in war that are
[00:03:22] developing. Remember that just a few months
[00:03:25] ago we didn't talk about missile Shaheds at all,
[00:03:29] right?
[00:03:31] There were some isolated rocket,
[00:03:34] rockets, reactive Shaheds, I apologize, and
[00:03:37] when they appeared, it was specially reported that
[00:03:41] one or two reactive
[00:03:44] Shaheds appeared,
[00:03:47] now it's whole herds, attacking
[00:03:50] атакують
[00:03:54] Ukraine, and what is a reactive Shahed anyway, you could
[00:03:58] say it's a modification of a cruise
[00:04:00] missile
[00:04:02] of a new type, we call it a rocket-reactive Shahed, but it's just a regular
[00:04:05] missile attack,
[00:04:08] essentially, just
[00:04:10] scaled up,
[00:04:14] and I think there will be many more such achievements in military-technical
[00:04:17] progress in the next period of the Russian-Ukrainian
[00:04:21] war from both sides,
[00:04:25] how can countries that have classic
[00:04:27] equipment,
[00:04:30] who did not fight in this drone war, in this missile war, be confident in
[00:04:33] their victory? Victory is no longer about the number
[00:04:37] of iron, but about the ability
[00:04:40] to fight in new conditions, that's the
[00:04:49] the assessment of the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Poland, and today I
[00:04:53] saw the assessment of the President of Latvia,
[00:04:56] who said completely different things.
[00:05:00] He said, Edgars Rinkēvičs, that the war using
[00:05:03] drones in Ukraine is developing rapidly,
[00:05:07] and that measures to prepare for aerial warfare may become irrelevant
[00:05:10] even before next year.
[00:05:13] Europe is not keeping up with the development of drone technologies and
[00:05:16] aerial warfare in Ukraine, and most NATO countries will not be able to repel
[00:05:20] an attack by Russian missiles in case of escalation
[00:05:22] of the conflict, air defense systems, protection
[00:05:26] against drones and missile defense have serious problems, and
[00:05:30] let's be frank, Ukraine has such problems, Europe and NATO
[00:05:34] have such problems. If
[00:05:36] Russia decides to launch only a few missiles at European
[00:05:40] territory, today for many countries this will become a serious challenge that
[00:05:43] will be difficult to cope with,
[00:05:47] and here the question arises, you are an average
[00:05:51] resident of Latvia,
[00:05:54] also of Russian origin, or even Latvian origin, you live somewhere in
[00:05:58] Ludza or Jelgava, and you see such
[00:06:02] a statement by the President of Latvia, and
[00:06:06] then a politician appears who says, you understand that you need to reach an agreement with
[00:06:09] Putin? The question is not even whether we are right or not... right,
[00:06:13] the question is that if a few missiles fall on your Ludza or Jelgava or
[00:06:16] Riga, we just won't repel them, you will be in ruins, we invested
[00:06:20] money in your home, in your
[00:06:23] apartment, in your business, this is the work of your whole
[00:06:27] life, you will be left without this work, without a home,
[00:06:31] all because we have to help Ukraine,
[00:06:35] so maybe it's better if Ukrainians flee to
[00:06:38] Europe, we will live peacefully and negotiate with Putin, why should we
[00:06:41] save an apartment for a Ukrainian, why should we
[00:06:45] burn down our own house? What is this
[00:06:48] anyway? We can read moral
[00:06:52] lectures to these people, but the vast majority of people can think,
[00:06:55] at least, who are outside political categories,
[00:06:59] that this is the only possible way of thinking,
[00:07:02] if we cannot cope with Russia, we must agree with it,
[00:07:05] I repeat again, this was the point of view of the vast majority
[00:07:09] of Ukrainians before 2022.
[00:07:13] We were awakened only by a merciless war for
[00:07:16] the destruction of Ukraine and the Ukrainian people, which is ongoing
[00:07:19] right now. The awakening of Europeans will
[00:07:23] only happen when the fire spreads to their territory and becomes the same war for
[00:07:27] their extermination. Until then, we can only hope for
[00:07:31] common sense, it's good that it exists at all. I repeat, we
[00:07:34] must thank Europeans that they still do not vote as Ukrainians
[00:07:38] always voted, because if Europeans voted the
[00:07:41] same way... destructively, Ukrainians would vote, there would be no Ukrainians left,
[00:07:45] that's
[00:07:48] the paradox, there would simply be no Ukrainians and no
[00:07:51] Ukraine, and we are discussing how Europeans will react,
[00:07:55] so far they have reacted quite adequately,
[00:07:58] allowing politicians to come to power who are ready to at least
[00:08:02] help us, we still had complaints that they were not helping
[00:08:05] enough, although from the point of view of such, I would
[00:08:08] say, our own
[00:08:11] logic of self-preservation, they would have long stopped helping us and would have
[00:08:15] long ago made a deal with the Kremlin, right? By the way, nothing
[00:08:19] is better proof that those European values, which we
[00:08:23] discussed a lot, are not entirely an empty sound, let's say,
[00:08:26] because in the end, that sixth year of virtually unprecedented
[00:08:29] aid, this is great evidence, well,
[00:08:33] just imagine purely
[00:08:37] theoretically, that throughout Europe
[00:08:39] from...
[00:08:41] from Lisbon to
[00:08:45] Przemyśl there lived people with Ukrainian
[00:08:48] electoral principles, instincts,
[00:08:52] instincts, yes, yes, that Ukrainians would simply live in Europe,
[00:08:56] here are Ukrainians in Ukraine and on the other side
[00:08:58] of the border, also
[00:09:01] Ukrainians,
[00:09:05] well, how would all this look, I'll tell you more, we
[00:09:09] know how all this would look, we saw how
[00:09:13] some Ukrainian diasporas in the United States
[00:09:16] of America
[00:09:19] in the same Pennsylvania voted,
[00:09:21] right?
[00:09:26] Here's your answer to the question.
[00:09:30] They voted the way the average
[00:09:34] Ukrainian voter voted for promises, for pleasant
[00:09:37] promises.
[00:09:40] And we were very offended by these people, and what... you vote for those who promise
[00:09:43] to help Ukraine not for real, but people
[00:09:46] promised, they heard promises of improving their
[00:09:49] own well-being,
[00:09:52] returning to values that were very important to them,
[00:09:54] right, and they
[00:09:56] voted,
[00:09:59] and we should still
[00:10:02] analyze this whole voting structure, because
[00:10:06] we usually talk about the voting
[00:10:09] of Ukrainian diasporas in those American states where these diasporas possibly... something
[00:10:12] decide,
[00:10:15] but there is voting in states where they do not decide, they still
[00:10:18] vote
[00:10:21] in the way this logic tells
[00:10:25] them. What was promised, simply
[00:10:28] most residents of these states, not Ukrainian,
[00:10:31] diaspora, decide differently, but
[00:10:35] if these diaspora residents were not the majority, then the situation in these states would be completely different, there would be no
[00:10:39] hope at all that people who wanted to
[00:10:42] help Ukraine would ever have the opportunity
[00:10:51] how we actually voted in 2019, now
[00:10:55] those for whom we voted do not vote
[00:10:58] today, they even go on a one-month
[00:11:01] vacation in the middle of the huge
[00:11:04] budget crisis that is coming upon us and
[00:11:07] threatens to disrupt payments even to state employees, but
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[00:11:11] minutes.
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[00:16:52] Well, we're back, and I will, you know, continue
[00:16:55] the topic of the results of certain elections
[00:16:58] in 2019, the people's
[00:17:01] deputies whom we elected in the distant year of 2019, before the war, who
[00:17:04] already in... in principle, for
[00:17:08] how many years, two something, they have overstayed their
[00:17:11] terms, decided to go on
[00:17:15] vacation for 26 days, maybe these are very important
[00:17:18] vacations, maybe they will travel to districts and meet with
[00:17:22] voters, maybe they will work in committees, maybe they have some
[00:17:26] urgent matters, they will be engaged in volunteering, I don't know
[00:17:29] what, but all this happens against the background of the fact that
[00:17:32] we have a terrible budget crisis, a cosmic
[00:17:36] deficit, said Volodymyr Zelensky,
[00:17:40] the Minister of Finance warns that budget payments may be
[00:17:43] disrupted, and well, just such
[00:17:46] a story, and this is because we disrupted
[00:17:50] voting on several reforms that are primarily needed by
[00:17:54] Ukraine, not Europe, but because of which Europe has now
[00:17:57] blocked part of this loan of 90 billion, and
[00:18:00] this is about an amount of approximately 27 billion
[00:18:19] this is possible in principle, and and most importantly, what amazes me is some kind of Olympic
[00:18:22] calm, people don't go out to the
[00:18:25] streets, on central channels, or whatever it's called,
[00:18:29] telethon, everything is calm, some good news
[00:18:32] about our offensives, counter-offensives, President
[00:18:35] Zelensky smiles.
[00:18:38] proposes a good idea to pay us, for example, in advance
[00:18:42] from next year's money to
[00:18:43] Europeans.
[00:18:47] I don't understand this, but you perfectly understand that the parliament would hardly go on
[00:18:51] vacation if there was no understanding between the leadership of the parliament and
[00:18:55] the leadership of the president's office, right? Between the president and
[00:18:58] the speaker.
[00:19:01] So here there is another surreal situation, that
[00:19:04] the president, on the one hand, talks about financial problems.
[00:19:07] also about the fact that the parliament does not adopt
[00:19:10] European integration laws, and on the other
[00:19:13] hand, it does not influence these
[00:19:17] vacation decisions in any way, or vice versa
[00:19:19] influences, because we perfectly
[00:19:22] understand that neither the ruling
[00:19:26] majority,
[00:19:29] nor the speaker of the parliament, nor the head of the Servant
[00:19:33] of the People faction in the parliament, are subjects in terms of their relations
[00:19:36] with the head of state, we generally say that recently
[00:19:40] the head
[00:19:43] of the Servant of the People party faction in parliament has gained
[00:19:46] enormous authority in the president's
[00:19:49] office, some compare him to
[00:19:52] Andriy Yermak's influence, but I don't know how appropriate these
[00:19:55] comparisons are at all, because I always said that in
[00:19:59] personalistic regimes, and we live in a personalistic
[00:20:02] regime, the influence of a favorite
[00:20:05] is determined by himself.
[00:20:12] And here a very simple question arises for me: perhaps, on
[00:20:15] the one hand,
[00:20:18] there is a desire to get money, and on the other hand, there is
[00:20:21] an unwillingness to adopt certain
[00:20:23] laws,
[00:20:26] and we are living in this situation.
[00:20:30] Listen, I have explained many times that all the laws that Europeans
[00:20:33] demand from us contradict the logic of personalism
[00:20:37] of the post-Soviet regime, which has been built here since
[00:20:41] 2019,
[00:20:45] because both the head of state and the people associated
[00:20:48] with him have an absolutely Soviet view of power, they are
[00:20:52] Soviet people, it is very strange that they turned out to be so
[00:20:55] Soviet at such an age, but on
[00:20:59] the other hand, they grew up
[00:21:01] when this Soviet heritage in a large part
[00:21:05] of Ukraine and in a large part of families was not overcome, they
[00:21:09] were brought up as Soviet people, with
[00:21:11] Soviet ideas about what power is and what
[00:21:14] control is, so don't be surprised that Volodymyr
[00:21:17] Zelensky has approximately the same idea
[00:21:21] of power as Leonid Kuchma, let's say, it's not worth it, because these are actually people of the same
[00:21:25] layer, I would say, just Kuchma lived in the Soviet
[00:21:28] Union,
[00:21:30] Союзі,
[00:21:32] and Zelensky was brought up in a Soviet environment,
[00:21:36] and he will not be different, because what
[00:21:39] is given to you, what is instilled in you during your upbringing, you will not be
[00:21:43] able to change,
[00:21:47] you see people who at... 20-30 years
[00:21:51] old move to Western countries, as from
[00:21:54] the Soviet Union they moved, here's a good
[00:21:56] example, to the United
[00:21:59] States,
[00:22:02] to European countries, to
[00:22:05] Israel,
[00:22:08] and look what happened to many of them there, not all, many,
[00:22:11] they remained absolutely Soviet
[00:22:15] people in their attitude to life, here's Brighton Beach, uh-huh,
[00:22:18] all their idea of... it was more sausage, freedom,
[00:22:22] money, freedom, I would even say, conditionally speaking, no
[00:22:25] persecution,
[00:22:29] no persecution, perhaps, it's not even freedom,
[00:22:32] uh-huh, these people even
[00:22:35] after decades in Western societies, consider
[00:22:39] the values of these Western societies to be somehow
[00:22:41] retarded,
[00:22:45] not that they don't want to integrate, not because they can't, but because they don't want to, because
[00:22:49] you can't integrate into that, well, this is
[00:22:53] also, by the way, what happens with people who live, hypothetically, this often happens
[00:22:56] hours away from Manhattan, it very often happens with
[00:22:59] Islamic families who move, for example, to European
[00:23:03] societies or American, well, of course, listen, well, in
[00:23:06] Islamic countries at least there is an excuse, they have faith, but
[00:23:10] these people don't believe in anything except 200
[00:23:13] grams of Dutch cheese and 300 grams
[00:23:17] of Odesa sausage, that's the trick. It would seem they should have
[00:23:20] been more flexible, but no, this sausage absolutely
[00:23:23] suits them as the meaning of life, it can just be such a sausage,
[00:23:27] such a sausage, or it can be a billion dollars, it doesn't matter, it
[00:23:30] doesn't affect a person
[00:23:31] in any way,
[00:23:36] well, the same thing, of course, happens with people who stay at home with their
[00:23:39] Soviet upbringing, but get incredible opportunities
[00:23:43] to realize their principles, when
[00:23:46] they get power, what do you want from them, uh-huh, well...
[00:23:50] No one ever denied that their rules of life are
[00:23:53] correct. Moreover, for these rules of life, the vast majority
[00:23:57] of their compatriots entrusted them with positions, so why should they think that they are mistaken
[00:24:01] in something?
[00:24:03] Of course, especially for a person who has never been involved in
[00:24:07] politics, being elected head of a multi-million
[00:24:10] state is a move into a non-existent world,
[00:24:14] in which this person will be isolated from reality until the last
[00:24:17] day of their powers, and it is unknown whether they will emerge from this non-existent
[00:24:21] world after the end of their presidential
[00:24:24] term,
[00:24:26] that's all, that's why I keep saying, I would
[00:24:30] like to see the parliament as a subject, the parliament is not
[00:24:33] a subject,
[00:24:35] you should have asked yourselves not why people don't
[00:24:39] go out into the streets, but what is happening to the deputies themselves,
[00:24:42] uh-huh, they know that Ukraine
[00:24:45] is threatened with falling into
[00:24:49] an economic... abyss, they may realize that the people in
[00:24:52] the residence of the President of Ukraine are incompetent in solving the problems
[00:24:56] of the state's survival, they are citizens of this
[00:24:58] state, they must think what will happen to them
[00:25:01] themselves
[00:25:04] if the state ceases
[00:25:06] to exist,
[00:25:10] or do they think that Putin will gather them for a session of the Verkhovna Rada, or will they
[00:25:13] solemnly adopt an act on the transformation of Ukraine into the Ukrainian
[00:25:17] ASSR, as part of Russia, the Russian Federation, and
[00:25:20] will Putin need them? This is not a legitimate parliament, the legitimate one
[00:25:24] was destroyed in 2014
[00:25:26] by the uprising of nationalists, we know who is
[00:25:29] legitimate here, Dirkach Zaliynykov, so
[00:25:33] don't hope, they will hang you by your arms and legs on
[00:25:36] Khreschatyk,
[00:25:40] and this somehow absolutely doesn't bother them, that's what's strange,
[00:25:43] themselves, we are not talking about people, people may not
[00:25:46] understand something, of course, the vast majority of Ukrainian... voters
[00:25:50] still don't understand where she is. is located and the volume of the exhaust, does not understand,
[00:25:53] but they are not obliged to, an ordinary person in general
[00:25:57] solves their problems, they work, they defend the country, they pay
[00:26:01] taxes, they elect these deputies, so that they understand this, and not so that
[00:26:05] she sits every day by the TV or by
[00:26:09] this computer and thinks about how to save
[00:26:12] the country, she does everything possible or not
[00:26:16] does, as a citizen,
[00:26:19] and deputies, ministers,
[00:26:22] president should govern, if there is a problem of financial
[00:26:25] catastrophe, they should solve it, and not rest from their
[00:26:28] work,
[00:26:31] that's all. And therefore, there is indeed a serious question with this subjectivity
[00:26:35] of these deputies,
[00:26:37] it was not people who should have gathered from the point of view
[00:26:41] of the logic of the process in the streets and asked where the parliament is, it was the parliamentarians who should have
[00:26:45] gathered in front of
[00:26:48] a closed parliament, uh-huh, and asked the
[00:26:51] speaker why it was closed, and if the speaker cannot give such an answer or
[00:26:55] informs them that some official from the office decided to re-elect
[00:26:59] this speaker and finally elect the head of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine.
[00:27:02] who will be able to really return subjectivity to the parliament, who will not go
[00:27:06] to the president's office and talk
[00:27:09] with officials about how the parliament should work, who will remember that it is
[00:27:13] a parliamentary-presidential republic, in which the powers of the head of state
[00:27:17] are significantly limited.
[00:27:20] Well, we currently have this state of
[00:27:23] war, which greatly increases the powers
[00:27:27] of the president. For example, this week the president
[00:27:29] appointed a temporary acting.
[00:27:32] General Prosecutor Anton Kovalsky, who
[00:27:36] was, I think, in Khmelnytskyi or Vinnytsia, some
[00:27:39] regional prosecutor, and I specifically looked it up, and the law,
[00:27:43] the provisions of the law on martial law, allow
[00:27:46] the president in emergency situations to simply appoint anyone
[00:27:49] with a legal education there, or who otherwise meets
[00:27:53] professional requirements, as temporary acting General
[00:27:57] Prosecutor. But this is a very important appointment, everyone
[00:27:59] was waiting for it, because it was supposed to be
[00:28:03] a signal of how, in principle, the president is getting out of this
[00:28:06] situation, the Carthage of this scandal, when
[00:28:10] it turned out that the entire top of the Prosecutor General's Office was corrupt, not corrupt,
[00:28:13] that's not the word, rather connected with
[00:28:16] criminality, which is organized, with organized
[00:28:19] crime, the top of the General Prosecutor's Office of Ukraine is not
[00:28:23] just connected with organized crime, it is organized crime,
[00:28:26] judging by everything, and is, it is organized crime
[00:28:30] connected with it.
[00:28:33] And here, here it was very important how Zelensky would act, many people
[00:28:37] hoped that he would appoint this competition, there was already a bill,
[00:28:40] it was already ready to be voted on for
[00:28:43] this competition, selection, independent, this would be a very good
[00:28:46] signal for Western partners, for
[00:28:49] society, I don't
[00:28:51] know,
[00:28:54] I think that Zelensky generally believes that what he told the Prosecutor
[00:28:58] General to resign and did not support him when the Prosecutor General made accusations
[00:29:02] against the leadership of NABU, this is already a huge
[00:29:05] success from the point of view of his
[00:29:09] dialogue with society, you understand? And the fact that he
[00:29:12] has to consult about candidates with society, this seems
[00:29:15] to me
[00:29:18] to be the president's understanding of how he should behave in critical
[00:29:21] situations,
[00:29:23] that's the problem, so you are again imposing
[00:29:27] your ideas about how the government should function on the president, and the president
[00:29:30] believes, and a huge number of people who are supporters
[00:29:34] of the president, that power should be concentrated in one hand, especially
[00:29:37] during martial law, and not invent all these competitions, all these
[00:29:41] conversations, because he knows better, and if
[00:29:44] he doesn't know better, then he still has to work with this prosecutor, and this is a critical situation, so
[00:29:48] let him do what is needed, and if the previous
[00:29:51] time it was wrong, well, a mistake, we'll fix it, and the previous time
[00:29:55] it was even more wrong, well, a mistake, he fixed it, he doesn't
[00:29:58] learn, he doesn't learn, and there is some critical number, well, that is...
[00:30:02] mistakes, well, that are permissible, well, there are two or three mistakes, I
[00:30:06] remember also, I don't know, the coach of the French national team, when they
[00:30:10] won then, I don't remember in what year, in '98, and he
[00:30:13] said: our, our,
[00:30:16] our advantage is that we always have the right to
[00:30:19] make mistakes in the team, well, okay, but how many times can the president of
[00:30:23] a warring state make mistakes? As many as he wants, because
[00:30:26] if I voted for this president, then it will be very difficult for me
[00:30:30] to tell myself that I made a mistake. Uh-huh, people
[00:30:34] who tell themselves I made
[00:30:36] a mistake,
[00:30:40] as a rule, are not
[00:30:41] the majority among the electorate,
[00:30:44] so a person who has already voted for something and then received such
[00:30:47] a result, will never admit their own mistakes, there are
[00:30:51] some people who say, well, at most, they can say, we didn't vote
[00:30:55] for Zelensky, but we voted against Poroshenko, remember
[00:30:58] that idea.