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[00:00:00] Drone brigades, vehicles and pickups,
[00:00:03] we will protect those who protect us,
[00:00:26] welcome to Espreso, these are the news and Oksana is in the studio.
[00:00:30] We start with strikes on Russia. In Moscow airports, due to a massive drone
[00:00:32] attack, over 400
[00:00:36] flights were delayed and cancelled. The most restrictions were at
[00:00:39] Sheremetyevo, where by noon over 30 planes were off schedule,
[00:00:42] and over 240 more were delayed for arrival and
[00:00:46] departure. Some aircraft were redirected to Nizhny Novgorod,
[00:00:50] Kazan, Cheboksary and St. Petersburg. At
[00:00:53] Vnukovo, 11 flights were cancelled, and another 129
[00:00:56] were delayed. At Domodedovo, one flight was cancelled and 20 were
[00:01:00] delayed. At Zhukovsky airport, two flights were cancelled
[00:01:03] and seven were delayed. The press services of Russian airports
[00:01:07] stated that flights are operating and working
[00:01:11] according to a revised schedule. Vnukovo reported a
[00:01:14] gradual return to normal
[00:01:16] operations.
[00:01:19] The Moscow region of Russia suffered a massive drone
[00:01:22] attack overnight, after which fires broke out in several areas.
[00:01:26] In particular, a large fire occurred on the territory of the warehouse complex in...
[00:01:31] There were also reports of explosions near TES-22 in Lyubertsy, where Russian
[00:01:34] air defense tried to shoot down drones, as monitoring
[00:01:37] Telegram channels write. Drones also attacked the area of the Moscow
[00:01:41] oil refinery in Kapotnya, where a fire could
[00:01:44] have broken out near one of the installations. Videos of the consequences of the attack
[00:01:48] and the work of Russian air
[00:01:52] defense are circulating online. Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin announced the
[00:01:55] most massive drone attack on the Russian capital. According to
[00:01:59] him, since September 15, the Russian air defense has allegedly
[00:02:02] intercepted over 1600
[00:02:06] drones at various frontiers, 450 of which were on approach to
[00:02:09] Moscow. At the same time, Ukrainian President Volodymyr
[00:02:12] Zelenskyy stated that last night, Ukrainian long-range
[00:02:16] weapons worked very effectively in the Moscow region,
[00:02:19] hitting one of the key enterprises of the Russian oil
[00:02:22] industry and a logistics facility of Russian troops. According
[00:02:26] to him, during the operation, FP-1,
[00:02:30] RZ100, Mich 2000, Polyanytsia,
[00:02:33] Vendetta, Liutyi, Bars, Flamingo, Sichen, and
[00:02:36] Pelikan were used, and the SBU, unmanned systems forces, SSO, Hur and the foreign
[00:02:40] intelligence
[00:02:42] service were involved in the strikes.
[00:02:46] The partisan movement Atezh announced damage to a railway switch
[00:02:49] in Russian Taganrog, Rostov Oblast. According
[00:02:53] to the partisans, their agents disabled an important element
[00:02:57] of the railway infrastructure, on which the movement of trains in this
[00:03:01] section depends. ATSH claims that the damage may
[00:03:04] complicate the movement of military echelons towards the occupied
[00:03:07] territories of Ukraine. Taganrog is an important railway
[00:03:11] hub for moving cargo to the Azov Sea region. Military
[00:03:15] equipment, fuel, and other
[00:03:18] cargo can be transported through this area. Partisans
[00:03:22] claim that the sabotage may cause train delays and
[00:03:25] disrupted railway traffic schedules.
[00:03:27] Soldiers from the 100th Separate Mechanized. Khady appealed to us and you for
[00:03:31] help. Transport, equipment, and machinery are needed, without which
[00:03:35] it is difficult to perform combat tasks. Our goal is very
[00:03:38] ambitious - 3.5 million UAH. This amount is large, but
[00:03:42] the needs at the front do not decrease, so, if you have
[00:03:45] the opportunity, join with a hryvnia. Everything that can be purchased
[00:03:49] thanks to this collection will work for our
[00:03:52] victory.
[00:03:56] Naftogaz signed a memorandum with Hungarian company MOL on the
[00:03:59] construction of facilities for storing petroleum products in
[00:04:03] Hungary, as announced by acting head of the board
[00:04:06] of Naftogaz Serhiy Fedorenko. The facilities
[00:04:09] are planned to be located near the Ukrainian-Hungarian border
[00:04:12] for Ukraine's needs. According to Fedorenko, the creation of
[00:04:16] additional storage facilities outside the zone of Russian shelling
[00:04:20] should increase the stability of the fuel market and the reliability
[00:04:23] of supply. The agreement was reached during the Carpathian
[00:04:26] Economic Forum within the framework of the Carpathian Eight Summit.
[00:04:33] Support for Ukraine is a state interest of Poland,
[00:04:37] stated the country's Minister of Defense Władysław Kosiniak-Kamysz. According to
[00:04:40] him, Ukrainian air defense allows intercepting Russian missiles and
[00:04:44] drones before they reach the EU border. He
[00:04:48] emphasized that without sufficient air defense systems and
[00:04:51] ammunition, a significant part of Russian air targets may
[00:04:54] reach Poland. This statement was made after a Russian
[00:04:58] attack drone fell in Volyn region, approximately 4
[00:05:01] km from the Polish border. Kosiniak-Kamysz
[00:05:05] also reported that Poland is intensifying the activity of its air
[00:05:08] forces amid Russian
[00:05:09] provocations.
[00:05:15] You see what is happening: missiles fall, drones fall
[00:05:19] a kilometer from the Polish border, if
[00:05:22] Ukraine does not have air defense systems,
[00:05:26] if it does not have ammunition to shoot down these drones,
[00:05:29] most of them will fly through Ukraine and reach
[00:05:32] Poland. Do you want this? Continue to bully
[00:05:36] Ukrainians, do it so that we can no longer
[00:05:39] talk normally to each other, or Ukrainians.
[00:05:52] We should not lose sight of our state interest,
[00:05:56] which lies in supporting Ukraine, which is conducting
[00:06:00] military operations so that missiles are intercepted there and do not
[00:06:03] reach Poland.
[00:06:06] Before the full-scale war, he worked at Espreso, loved
[00:06:10] his job and cared not only about his family, but also about his
[00:06:13] employees. Mykola Kudyirko joined the army from
[00:06:16] the first days of the full-scale war, defended Kyiv region
[00:06:19] and went missing during a combat mission in the Kursk
[00:06:22] direction. For almost two years, relatives, friends and comrades waited for
[00:06:26] news and hoped that the defender was alive. Recently, the man
[00:06:30] was laid to rest in Kyiv, where Mykola Kudyirko
[00:06:33] remained in the memory of those who knew him personally. In our
[00:06:37] story.
[00:06:41] State flag of Ukraine.
[00:06:53] In Kyiv, Ukrainian defender and
[00:06:57] former employee of Espreso TV channel Mykola
[00:07:00] Kudyirko was laid to rest. He went missing on December
[00:07:03] 7, 2024, during a combat
[00:07:07] mission in the Kursk direction. After almost two years of uncertainty
[00:07:11] and waiting, he returned home on
[00:07:14] a shield. From the first day, he was always there, never, as they say,
[00:07:17] gave up, and in principle, he even joined the service
[00:07:21] officially as a volunteer, went to the military enlistment office himself, signed
[00:07:24] a contract, and in the Kursk direction, unfortunately, it
[00:07:28] happened that during the
[00:07:30] most brutal battles, Mykola then went missing. Everyone
[00:07:33] waited, hoped, but unfortunately, today we see that
[00:07:37] our Mykola has returned home. Mykola joined the territorial
[00:07:40] defense forces in the first days of the full-scale war,
[00:07:44] participated in the liberation of the occupied territories
[00:07:47] of Kyiv region, and later served in the 41st separate
[00:07:50] mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Unfortunately,
[00:07:54] it happened that first his son
[00:07:57] was called to the army. He
[00:08:00] always, he just adored his family, his daughter, for
[00:08:04] him she was, as my mother says, my little flower.
[00:08:07] And he could not just stand
[00:08:09] aside, he also went to... For
[00:08:13] colleagues from Espreso, he remained a person you could
[00:08:17] rely on. At the beginning of the Great War, he helped
[00:08:20] evacuate technical equipment from the Kyiv studio
[00:08:23] of the TV channel and take out relatives of his
[00:08:26] employees. In 2022, when he
[00:08:29] remained, remained in Kyiv, we were forced to
[00:08:32] leave to start broadcasting in
[00:08:34] Lviv. He called me several times, and about
[00:08:38] caring, he said: "Don't worry, I purposely go to your".
[00:08:55] and constant shelling, the person still thought and cared. Colleagues recall that caring for others was usual for Mykola
[00:08:58] even in the most difficult times. He
[00:09:01] was always a true comrade, as he said when
[00:09:04] he was alive and working, "my brother," he called everyone "brothers."
[00:09:08] He was a leader among... The hero
[00:09:36] was buried at Berkovetske cemetery. Mykola
[00:09:39] is survived by his mother, wife, daughter and son, and... although Mykola
[00:09:43] is no longer with us, his memory will remain with those who knew
[00:09:46] him personally, his relatives, comrades, and colleagues. For
[00:09:50] them, he will forever remain a person who cared for
[00:09:53] others and defended Ukraine until his last
[00:09:56] breath.
[00:09:59] Eternal memory to Mykola and all who died defending
[00:10:02] Ukraine from Russian aggression. This is all the information
[00:10:06] we have now. My colleagues Kateryna Nekrecha and Serhiy
[00:10:09] Rudenko will continue. Stay with Espreso.
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[00:10:53] Ukrainian Focus Evening. Every weekday on
[00:10:56] Espreso. We are raising funds for a Rep and two
[00:10:59] engines for medic-evac military personnel of the special
[00:11:02] operations forces who are defending our country in the eastern
[00:11:06] direction. The enemy disabled vehicles that
[00:11:09] are used to evacuate the wounded from the front
[00:11:13] lines. Therefore, we ask for help with fundraising.
[00:11:16] Without our help, our paramedic girls will not
[00:11:20] cope. Let's help save the lives of our wounded
[00:11:23] defenders together.
[00:11:47] So, now the main thing, we continue our broadcast, Kateryna
[00:11:51] Nekrecha, Serhiy Rudenko are working for you in this studio, and today,
[00:11:55] September 20, we will talk, among
[00:11:58] other things, about the Ukrainian budget, what are the problems,
[00:12:02] questions already this year, and what are the plans for
[00:12:05] next year, 2027. This year's defense budget is lacking
[00:12:09] 27 billion dollars, in
[00:12:12] 2027, 52.6 billion
[00:12:15] dollars of support will be needed,
[00:12:19] as stated by Finance Minister Marchenko. Part of
[00:12:22] this amount has already been found,
[00:12:25] but there is still a shortfall, so, where to get this
[00:12:29] money, we will talk further with our guest, she is a People's
[00:12:33] Deputy of Ukraine, a member of the Committee on National Security, Defense and
[00:12:36] Intelligence, Iryna Friz. Ms. Ira,
[00:12:39] welcome to Espreso. Good
[00:12:42] day, greetings to you. Good day, Ms. Iryna. Please explain
[00:12:46] how the government intends to cover the expenses
[00:12:50] necessary for defense due to this
[00:12:54] deficit. Because Koretsky has been talking for
[00:12:58] the past few weeks, or even for
[00:13:01] the past week, about a catastrophic financial
[00:13:05] situation. Why did this happen and why are there
[00:13:09] problems with financing
[00:13:10] defense?
[00:13:13] Well, let's start from the very beginning, because
[00:13:16] when the budget for 2026 was approved, you
[00:13:20] remember, we repeatedly said that the budget
[00:13:23] of the Ministry of Defense is... underfunded, because it
[00:13:27] was approved even below those indicators
[00:13:31] that were for 2025, and this
[00:13:35] applies not only to the budget of the Ministry of Defense, it
[00:13:38] applies to all subjects of the defense
[00:13:41] forces, which in 2025
[00:13:43] were significantly less funded in 2026,
[00:13:47] than in 2025,
[00:13:51] therefore, we need to start with the fact that the budget was
[00:13:55] inadequate from the very beginning to the needs that the General
[00:13:58] Staff spoke about, and
[00:14:01] then we simply trace, for example,
[00:14:04] new contracts from the former minister Fedorov, which
[00:14:08] according to various calculations,
[00:14:11] require an additional approximately 100 billion
[00:14:14] UAH in the state budget, which were not included
[00:14:18] from the very beginning, this is in addition to the existing deficit, we
[00:14:21] add even then we face
[00:14:25] what war actually dictates, and war
[00:14:28] dictates the use of completely different means,
[00:14:31] its conduct and accordingly an increase in budget
[00:14:35] allocations for those types of
[00:14:38] weapons that have proven their effectiveness and
[00:14:42] allow our military
[00:14:46] to professionally perform combat missions to
[00:14:49] repel aggression, so it's a complex of problems and
[00:14:52] it begins with the fact that the budget... of 2026
[00:14:56] directly for the Ministry of Defense was
[00:14:59] unsatisfactory, that is, it did not even cover
[00:15:02] 50%
[00:15:04] of the need that was stated in the
[00:15:07] letter from the Ministry of Defense during the budget review,
[00:15:11] they were counting on money from partners, first of all,
[00:15:14] they were counting on money from partners to come in and thus
[00:15:17] cover the hole in the budget that
[00:15:21] was emerging already at the end of the first quarter.
[00:15:25] 2026, but we see that money from our partners does not
[00:15:29] come in those amounts and,
[00:15:32] let's say, in those terms
[00:15:35] that would be needed. for us, and here we
[00:15:39] are talking about the effective use of the
[00:15:42] budget we have, that is, the quality
[00:15:46] of application regarding the financing of those
[00:15:49] items that are priorities in a country at war, from
[00:15:53] my point of view, it is a crime
[00:15:56] to use such hard-earned
[00:15:59] money for the budget, from
[00:16:02] taxes on all kinds of PR
[00:16:06] campaigns of the government, these are
[00:16:10] "Yabaki" (a slang term for public works or projects used for political gain), and all
[00:16:12] this populist nonsense that
[00:16:15] drains money from the state budget instead of covering
[00:16:19] the primary needs of our
[00:16:22] defense forces, which is the monetary support for our military
[00:16:25] and the minimal provision of what
[00:16:29] Ukraine can produce and purchase
[00:16:33] directly from its manufacturers, so it's a
[00:16:36] complex of problems. It was obvious back
[00:16:40] in early 2026, and now it has simply
[00:16:43] taken on quite threatening
[00:16:47] features from my point of view, and I
[00:16:50] am confident that first of all, everyone at all
[00:16:53] levels, both government officials, and
[00:16:57] the president, first of all, and including
[00:17:00] deputies, must contribute to ensuring
[00:17:02] that
[00:17:05] our relations with our partners
[00:17:09] prove the need
[00:17:11] for additional funding for Ukraine already this year, possibly even at the expense
[00:17:15] of money allocated
[00:17:19] by our partners for our country in 2027.
[00:17:22] Ms. Iryna, please tell me,
[00:17:26] what you are talking about, can
[00:17:29] it be corrected over the next,
[00:17:32] it can be corrected over the next few months, I mean.
[00:17:36] budget items, reducing
[00:17:40] those expenses that can be reduced, reallocating
[00:17:43] money to reduce this defense budget
[00:17:47] deficit, I mean, there is a single
[00:17:50] telethon that is still financed from
[00:17:54] the state budget this year, and is included for next
[00:17:57] year, maybe it is from this money that we need to take those
[00:18:01] resources that are so lacking for defense and for our entire
[00:18:05] defense complex and the Defense Forces
[00:18:08] of Ukraine? You know, you correctly named those
[00:18:12] expenditure items that largely
[00:18:15] need to be suspended for
[00:18:18] funding, because first of all, we must
[00:18:21] provide salaries to our military and
[00:18:24] servicemen, considering this, should
[00:18:28] the government introduce changes,
[00:18:31] they certainly should, and the sooner they prepare and introduce them,
[00:18:34] the more
[00:18:37] opportunities there will be not to allow, let's say, a gap
[00:18:40] in payments, and this, in my opinion, should be
[00:18:44] our number one priority today, therefore,
[00:18:47] the government and the prime minister, who has already stated
[00:18:50] that he found about 70 billion across various
[00:18:54] items, need to focus not only on these
[00:18:57] 70, but I think they can also increase them, in particular, the proposals
[00:19:01] of European Solidarity state that more than 100
[00:19:04] billion can be found, even...
[00:19:09] in the current state, current budget, in order to reallocate
[00:19:12] them to provide for the defense forces,
[00:19:15] therefore, in this case, the government must focus
[00:19:19] on the rapid preparation of these documents, these
[00:19:22] changes, submit them to parliament, and
[00:19:26] parliament, I am sure, will be ready to consider
[00:19:30] them in a sufficiently short time, despite
[00:19:33] quite, possibly unpopular
[00:19:36] steps, which will have to be taken in order to
[00:19:40] close this gap in
[00:19:44] financing specifically for the defense forces, because
[00:19:46] we cannot afford such
[00:19:49] a luxury to spend, well,
[00:19:53] that is, we largely should not afford it, but the government allows
[00:19:57] itself such a luxury, to spend absolutely wastefully
[00:20:00] their money, I mean on those
[00:20:03] articles that are
[00:20:07] not only not priorities, but are not even in the second
[00:20:10] priority of our state, everything except defense capability now must
[00:20:14] recede into the background. Ms. Iro, when you talk about
[00:20:18] unpopular steps, what do you mean by that?
[00:20:22] I don't want to announce
[00:20:24] them now, but I think that some
[00:20:27] articles, under which funding is currently
[00:20:31] taking place, except for, I mean, social
[00:20:34] expenditures, I think they will be preserved. Nevertheless, the government
[00:20:38] will be forced to reduce
[00:20:41] funding for them until the end of the year, but what exactly they
[00:20:45] will choose, which specific articles, let's wait, we will not jump
[00:20:49] ahead.
[00:20:52] of the horse and we will comment on
[00:20:55] specific changes that they will introduce and whether
[00:20:58] they will have the courage and wisdom to introduce them
[00:21:02] in full to provide our
[00:21:06] army with
[00:21:09] minimums, I consider them minimums,
[00:21:13] minimal provisions, because if we are already talking about
[00:21:16] weapons, then in this case, we have to turn to
[00:21:20] our partners again, and to those programs through which we
[00:21:23] purchase the weapons that we do not produce ourselves, and also
[00:21:27] to address, in general, you know,
[00:21:31] a change in the financial model is needed,
[00:21:33] in particular regarding the provision of defense forces,
[00:21:37] that is, the money that is in our budget should be
[00:21:41] maximized to meet minimal needs, and this is the financial
[00:21:44] support for our military and
[00:21:48] minimal needs. defense forces, everything we can
[00:21:51] ask from our partners, and what dialogue we need
[00:21:55] to establish, is that not,
[00:21:58] buy directly from them
[00:22:01] the weapons that we are capable of producing ourselves,
[00:22:04] but invest, or direct the money of our
[00:22:08] European partners into scaling up and expanding
[00:22:11] those types
[00:22:14] of weapons that we produce ourselves, this will give us
[00:22:17] the opportunity and save. well practically
[00:22:21] financial resources directly in
[00:22:25] the state, and most importantly - to reduce time, yes, that is
[00:22:28] logistics will be much faster than
[00:22:32] when we buy or when we expect this or
[00:22:35] that weapon from partners, and besides,
[00:22:39] under international programs, another thing,
[00:22:42] we must maximally speed up the moments
[00:22:46] of supplying us with what we do not produce, that is...
[00:22:50] partners' money into investing in our
[00:22:54] production, and at the same time, through such
[00:22:57] programs as Purl, yes, international ones, which we
[00:23:01] use to purchase what
[00:23:04] will allow us to hold the sky, yes, these are missiles for
[00:23:07] air defense, these are means of air attack, these are
[00:23:11] artillery shells, that is, everything that we do not produce ourselves and
[00:23:14] are not capable of producing in the near future, we must maximally
[00:23:18] purchase, everything else... that we are capable of scaling up in order to
[00:23:22] ensure the effectiveness
[00:23:25] of our army's work, we must address
[00:23:29] our partners regarding their
[00:23:33] investment in our defense industry, because we react much
[00:23:37] faster and much more operationally to changes
[00:23:40] in the means and methods of
[00:23:44] warfare, and therefore we can much faster
[00:23:47] offer innovative solutions, and which are already proving
[00:23:51] effective because we actually use
[00:23:55] and test them immediately and apply them in
[00:23:58] continuous conditions, yes, that is,
[00:24:02] non-stop, there is an innovative solution, there is a product,
[00:24:06] there is, there is a test and there
[00:24:08] is a need to scale it up in order to supply it immediately to
[00:24:12] the troops. Ms. Iryna, a very short question,
[00:24:16] I hope for an equally short answer from you.
[00:24:20] Zelenskyy said that the Verkhovna Rada must adopt seven
[00:24:23] draft laws or laws that our
[00:24:26] Western partners demand, and in order for
[00:24:29] full funding for Ukraine to resume. What
[00:24:33] are the prospects for adopting these draft laws? We know that in the first reading,
[00:24:37] the law that
[00:24:40] increases taxes on international
[00:24:43] parcels, parcels that come from abroad, passed.
[00:24:47] Is there a prospect that these laws will be adopted
[00:24:50] quickly and as our Western
[00:24:53] partners ask for them? Well, you know,
[00:24:57] before talking about the adoption of these unpopular laws, it should
[00:25:00] be noted that the government, including at the presidential
[00:25:04] level, failed in the negotiation track with our
[00:25:07] partners, was unable to prove the necessity
[00:25:10] of postponing certain unpopular
[00:25:13] steps, and now parliament is virtually put,
[00:25:17] you know, before an
[00:25:20] essential, I would say, blackmail attempt, trying
[00:25:23] to make parliament the scapegoat for unpopular
[00:25:26] decisions. The thing is, a fish rots
[00:25:30] from the head down, and in this context, the government must honestly
[00:25:33] admit that they failed the international negotiation track.
[00:25:37] Now, moving on to these, so to speak,
[00:25:40] unpopular laws, regarding parcels, you know that the demand of European
[00:25:43] Solidarity for parcels for
[00:25:46] servicemen, or those that have military purpose,
[00:25:50] should not have such taxation, was favorably
[00:25:53] received, and we will continue to insist on it. As
[00:25:56] for their consideration, there are
[00:25:59] three weeks ahead, in fact. when the Verkhovna
[00:26:03] Rada will not be working, if during this time, and
[00:26:06] there were, it seems, two weeks given
[00:26:09] for introducing amendments and consideration by
[00:26:12] the relevant committee, if the relevant committees are able to prepare
[00:26:16] the laws for consideration in parliament, then believe
[00:26:19] me, parliament is not going to postpone the issue of consideration and
[00:26:22] adoption of a decision, but parliament will stand quite firmly on
[00:26:26] the fact that a certain
[00:26:28] segment that these
[00:26:33] unpopular decisions affect
[00:26:36] must be protected, so
[00:26:40] we will continue to see how ready the draft laws are, and to what extent parliament will be ready to work.
[00:26:43] Thank you, thank you, Ms. Iryna, this was Iryna Friz, People's Deputy
[00:26:47] of Ukraine, member of the Committee on National Security, Defense and
[00:26:51] intelligence of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine. Next, we will talk
[00:26:55] about, among other things, the attack on the Moscow
[00:26:59] region. The founder of the company joins the broadcast.
[00:27:02] The manufacturer of defense products first contact, a combatant, is
[00:27:06] Valeriy Borovyk, and we will further discuss
[00:27:10] the consequences of this attack of the defense
[00:27:12] forces, and so, Mr. Valeriy, we welcome you to
[00:27:16] Espreso, thank you for being with us this morning, this day, this evening already,
[00:27:20] good afternoon, glad to see you, let's
[00:27:23] start with the attack that took place by the defense
[00:27:27] forces, on the night of September
[00:27:30] 20th in... on Moscow and the Moscow
[00:27:34] region, President Zelensky said that during the night
[00:27:37] attack, the defense forces used a number of
[00:27:41] Ukrainian long-range weapons, including Flamingo, Polianytsia,
[00:27:44] and Pelikan. What can you say about this attack that
[00:27:48] took place, because the Russians are talking about
[00:27:52] 1600 Ukrainian drones that flew to Moscow, which were
[00:27:55] allegedly shot down in the Moscow region,
[00:27:59] is this a systemic and already combined
[00:28:02] ballistic-drone war against Moscow,
[00:28:06] or is it still a test,
[00:28:08] or, let's say, an approbation of their
[00:28:11] air defense with new means of destruction, in particular
[00:28:15] Pelikan, about which, I hope, you will
[00:28:18] tell us a little more, because Flamingo and Polianytsia have already
[00:28:21] been discussed on air and generally in the mass media
[00:28:25] quite a lot.
[00:28:28] Well, I think that in your definition of this attack, you need to set aside the first word for some
[00:28:31] time. The word ballistic, that is,
[00:28:34] there was no ballistic component here, unfortunately, but I think we are getting
[00:28:38] there, and maybe even this year we will return this
[00:28:41] word in our next plot someday, for now this
[00:28:45] was a combined attack with different means, both drone and
[00:28:49] non-drone, and this shows
[00:28:52] that in the end we started
[00:28:55] to scale and apply those
[00:28:58] means that exhaust the enemy's air defense
[00:29:01] system. Of different types, that is,
[00:29:05] we have already seen such similar attacks
[00:29:08] on Kyiv from the enemy, when there is
[00:29:11] ballistic, then different types of Shaheds,
[00:29:14] missiles, all this can go in parallel,
[00:29:17] we are quite good at fighting cruise
[00:29:21] missiles, but it's more difficult for us with ballistic
[00:29:24] missiles, and sometimes almost impossible, because there are not enough
[00:29:27] means, here we showed that we can
[00:29:31] combine... to strike, indeed, many means were launched,
[00:29:35] not many reached, because the air defense system of the Moscow
[00:29:39] region, Jupiter, it is quite serious and
[00:29:42] echeloned, multi-layered, and
[00:29:46] therefore, but this is already, well, an indicator,
[00:29:49] this entire smoke, all these
[00:29:52] results that exist, fires, this shows
[00:29:56] that the war is increasingly breaking
[00:29:59] through to the heart.
[00:30:02] the heart of the enemy, and this is very important, now
[00:30:06] the defense forces really need to make
[00:30:10] their own analysis, which means passed, which did not
[00:30:12] pass, and what will be, there will be then
[00:30:16] additional reconnaissance, there will be then the detection of their
[00:30:19] anti-missile components, because air defense systems are moving, they are not
[00:30:23] standing still, but we will understand how the enemy fights,
[00:30:26] we already basically understand, but such massive
[00:30:30] attacks, they give more mass information for analysis,
[00:30:34] for adjusting subsequent attacks, and accordingly
[00:30:38] adjusting possibly technical characteristics. We will
[00:30:41] see, as they say, in the swamps. If we talk about
[00:30:45] this Pelican, what
[00:30:48] is known about it, what can be said about it?
[00:30:51] Well, look, all the characteristics are
[00:30:54] always larger,
[00:30:58] better than what we have...