ESPRESO — broadcast 20260920 163000 UTC 507 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:31] all wars begin with the capture of Poland and it's not [00:00:34] just like that, World War I, World War II, [00:00:38] they keep provoking and provoking, what's the problem with [00:00:41] you, you were already part of the [00:00:44] Russian empire, well everywhere, you should [00:00:47] understand, it's better to be friends with [00:00:49] Russia, [00:00:53] well, the fact that they were part of the Russian empire should [00:00:56] somehow hint to the Poles that it's better to stay away from Russia. [00:01:01] further, but the fact, you know, once again we heard that it turns out, it wasn't [00:01:05] Hitler who attacked Poland, but Hitler was literally [00:01:08] provoked, and Poland itself is to blame for the start of World War [00:01:12] II, a wonderful thought, and not for the first time, that's all you needed [00:01:16] to know about Russian [00:01:17] Nazism, [00:01:20] and then this, one could even say who [00:01:24] Zhuravlev is, he is nobody, some kind of, well [00:01:27] deputy, well yes, but this is not something obvious. such an official [00:01:31] no, that's roughly what Sergey Lavrov said, [00:01:34] who is now leading the United [00:01:38] Russia list in the elections, let me remind you, and who literally told how [00:01:42] he will quickly defeat [00:01:45] the EU, and well the old nag [00:01:48] constantly tells how peaceful she is, but for some reason [00:01:51] she wants to quickly defeat [00:01:53] the EU. If Europe, which daily [00:01:57] talks about preparing for war with Russia... [00:02:14] it's similar to what was said about Ukraine, [00:02:17] said Putin's aide Patrushev, [00:02:21] who was previously the director of the FSB, this is in Solovyov's style [00:02:24] about two or three days to capture Kyiv, here it's the same [00:02:28] only with Poland. [00:02:32] Speaking of Poland's military advantage over Russia, Sikorski, [00:02:36] apparently, does not realize that in case of Poland's [00:02:39] entry into military actions against Russia, our country [00:02:42] will use its entire arsenal of available forces and [00:02:45] means, and Polish statehood will cease to [00:02:48] exist in two or three days. [00:02:52] Well, that's all you needed to know about the peacefulness of Russians and how [00:02:55] they are not going to attack European [00:02:58] countries. [00:03:01] Oh, and finally, all these talks about [00:03:05] how it would be possible to resist [00:03:07] Russia, against the background of another incident that is now [00:03:11] happening near the borders of the European Union, when [00:03:14] drones are already flying into the territory of Romania and Poland, [00:03:18] when terrorist attacks are taking place [00:03:21] in Europe, and the last one is a drone strike on [00:03:25] a train that was literally 2 km from the [00:03:28] border with Poland. Russian propaganda, which [00:03:31] literally boasts that they [00:03:34] hit a train with European [00:03:37] leaders. [00:03:41] Strikes on Volyn worried Warsaw, Prime Minister Donald [00:03:45] Tusk convened an urgent meeting today, where he announced that Putin's [00:03:49] next target will be on the territory of [00:03:52] Poland. [00:03:55] Tusk was frightened by the incident in the area of Yahodyn, a city bordering [00:03:58] Ukraine. [00:04:08] Think about it, a train with Boris Johnson and Advisor [00:04:12] to Chancellor Merz. In another train, former CIA head David [00:04:16] Petraeus was present. [00:04:17] Петреус. [00:04:21] Sources from The Sun claim that the real target was Boris Johnson. [00:04:24] he was saved only by an earlier [00:04:28] departure. [00:04:32] true, well, and whether it's true, it's also interesting to see what Russian propagandists say [00:04:35] about it, because, you know, [00:04:39] even Russian propagandists have to [00:04:41] somehow explain why they are hitting civilian [00:04:45] trains, and it's very interesting when in the same [00:04:49] news, they first quote that it was a train that [00:04:52] went from Kyiv to Warsaw, and then they [00:04:56] say that NATO weapons were being transported on this train. [00:05:02] Poland condemned the attack of a Russian drone on a passenger train that was [00:05:05] traveling from Kyiv to Warsaw, near the border with Ukraine, the drone [00:05:09] hit the train just 2 km from the border, the strike. precisely [00:05:12] on NATO [00:05:13] supplies, [00:05:18] the locomotive that was supposed to carry weapons for the Armed Forces of Ukraine burned [00:05:22] down, its front part is completely destroyed, the scheme of the Ukrainian [00:05:26] authorities is simple and cynical, they attach several wagons with [00:05:29] weapons to a passenger train at the Polish border, then to [00:05:33] Ukraine. Well, I repeat, this is a train [00:05:37] that was going to Warsaw. That is, [00:05:39] why take weapons from Kyiv to [00:05:42] Warsaw, well, there will be no answer to this question, of course, [00:05:46] because all this is just fiction, all this is [00:05:49] a lie, and strikes on [00:05:52] civilian trains are just ordinary [00:05:56] terrorism, this whole story is so wild [00:05:59] that the Russian propagandist Mardan did not even immediately [00:06:03] believe that it really happened, because indeed, well [00:06:05] hitting a passenger train that is going [00:06:09] to Poland with people. [00:06:21] on Sunday some fantastic strange [00:06:23] news appeared, which did not reach my [00:06:27] consciousness, because I honestly did not [00:06:31] believe it, [00:06:34] well, what I bought it for, that's what I'm selling to you now, [00:06:38] allegedly on Sunday during one of our drone attacks. [00:06:43] the attack was carried out on objects in Western Ukraine. [00:06:47] The locomotive of the so-called diplomatic [00:06:49] train came under fire. [00:06:56] Well, and then it turned out that yes, they hit. [00:06:59] And you know, a Russian propagandist doesn't really need to think much. [00:07:03] He immediately changed the version and began to say that [00:07:07] it turns out that this was not an accidental strike, but a [00:07:10] signal, literally, to Europeans, [00:07:14] and so, moreover, that's how trains with [00:07:18] Europeans should be [00:07:18] hit, [00:07:22] something happened, [00:07:25] now everything is very uneven, and actually this drone, this [00:07:28] reactive parcel, which flew over the railway in Western [00:07:31] Ukraine, of course, this is [00:07:33] a signal, of course, this is a package, [00:07:37] a parcel, yes, a diplomatic [00:07:39] parcel, no need to travel. The Russian Ministry of [00:07:43] Defense signaled Johnson and all other national security [00:07:47] advisers, [00:07:50] well, and Skabeyeva directly said that this is well, and [00:07:53] wonderful, this is such a common terrorist [00:07:57] activity, and they only regret that they didn't kill [00:08:00] Johnson. [00:08:03] You see how the strike, they say that this is also aggression against Polish [00:08:07] territory, the Polish-Ukrainian border on Ukrainian [00:08:11] territory, they are afraid that... [00:08:14] why Boris Johnson for me? I only have one question: why didn't [00:08:17] they hit? [00:08:20] well, these are probably these peaceful, literally [00:08:24] signals that Russia sends, that is, it was only necessary for [00:08:27] Kushner and Vodcov [00:08:30] to go to Putin, and you see, they, the Russians [00:08:33] decided to target a passenger train with Europeans, such a [00:08:37] peaceful signal, absolutely, in what [00:08:40] note, when no drones flew [00:08:42] here, [00:08:46] no one tried to shoot down any trains, [00:08:50] and probably at that moment they were not worried that some weapons would travel [00:08:53] by train with Jared Kushner, [00:08:57] suddenly they invented all these stories, what does this mean, this means that [00:09:01] in reality there is absolutely [00:09:03] no such a signal that Putin [00:09:07] wants some peace, that he [00:09:10] just wants to end the war, and [00:09:13] he just can't agree, no, it's [00:09:17] not like that, Putin wants to get [00:09:20] foreign territories, that's all he wants with all these conversations, [00:09:24] he's just trying to take them without a [00:09:27] fight, [00:09:30] well, and another story that these American [00:09:34] negotiators told, that literally now [00:09:36] it's impossible to negotiate with Putin, but after the elections to the [00:09:40] State Duma he obviously [00:09:42] wants to negotiate and will push more for [00:09:45] negotiations, and here it's also very interesting, because [00:09:48] a statement appeared from Vladimir Putin, his [00:09:51] address to the Russian people on the occasion of the elections, and [00:09:55] where he said [00:09:57] that at these elections, which will take place in [00:10:01] the State Duma on September 18-20, participation in [00:10:05] this voting should demonstrate support for [00:10:08] Russian military personnel and become a common response to those [00:10:12] who... Who, according to Putin, wants to weaken [00:10:15] Russia. Your choice and will will once again show that behind [00:10:18] our fighters are millions of people, that we are a united [00:10:22] people, Putin said, and he called participation in the elections [00:10:25] a contribution to strengthening the country, and the [00:10:28] voting itself a general contribution to Russia's victory, that is, [00:10:31] Putin said in plain text that participation [00:10:35] in the elections is a demonstration [00:10:39] of support for the war of the Russian Federation against [00:10:42] Ukraine, such a peaceful [00:10:45] signal, very strange, I would say, because you know, [00:10:49] peaceful signals are not sent like that to their people, they don't say [00:10:53] that your participation in the elections is... participation in the war, when they want to end [00:10:56] this war, right? therefore [00:10:59] something else is behind this, and what is behind it is also in [00:11:03] principle in this appeal of Putin, he [00:11:07] called these elections a significant and in many [00:11:10] ways decisive election campaign, why should this be [00:11:14] a decisive campaign, because for the first time residents [00:11:18] of territories occupied after 2022 will [00:11:20] vote, that is, in fact, these elections, [00:11:24] Putin believes, are a way to legitimize [00:11:27] the occupation of Ukrainian territories, something like what they [00:11:31] tried to do with a referendum in Crimea, then [00:11:34] elections in Crimea, as if after that it could be [00:11:38] said that this is Russian territory, but [00:11:41] no, it's not like that, because [00:11:44] elections in Russia have no power at all, [00:11:48] and they generally show nothing, and this, [00:11:51] for example, showed that they have an electronic [00:11:55] election topic, and it was literally hacked the other day and [00:11:59] these hackers found out [00:12:01] that it generally doesn't matter what was [00:12:05] voted for, because in the system itself [00:12:08] you can simply set literally any votes in [00:12:11] any region and any percentages, well, [00:12:14] that is, simply sitting at a computer you can manipulate [00:12:18] elections in the Russian Federation easily and without any [00:12:22] problems, that is, there are no [00:12:25] elections in Russia, and therefore this, you know, message [00:12:29] to the Americans, that after the elections something will become [00:12:32] clear, actually says only one [00:12:36] thing, that in this way Putin probably tells the Americans that [00:12:39] after the elections he will definitely seize [00:12:43] Ukraine, you see, I even bring some [00:12:46] legal basis for this, and therefore continue to pressure Ukraine, [00:12:50] demand that they give me those territories that I [00:12:53] want without a fight, well... again nothing will come [00:12:57] of this, I'll say again, because just [00:13:00] as before, absolutely no one considered these to be [00:13:04] arguments, and on the other hand, [00:13:07] if you give Putin [00:13:10] uh literally to legitimize [00:13:13] his capture, well then there will be no end to the war, [00:13:17] but there will be attacks on other European countries, and you see Poland [00:13:21] is probably among the first, because [00:13:25] now the rhetoric regarding Poland and the Baltic [00:13:28] states is very, very aggressive and such that, [00:13:32] you know, hey, Europe in three days. [00:13:35] Therefore, you don't need to fall for these talks, and you need [00:13:39] to understand that the only thing that can stop the war [00:13:42] is Russia's defeat in [00:13:45] the war. There is no, you know, [00:13:48] diplomatic solution to this conflict. [00:13:51] There will be a winner and a loser, and that's it. And Russia [00:13:55] should be that loser. [00:13:58] See you. [00:14:05] And finally, the section that we prepare together with our colleagues [00:14:08] from StopFake. For over 10 years, they have been the first to notice, [00:14:12] check, and expose Russian disinformation. [00:14:15] Today, we will discuss the top three fakes of the week together with [00:14:18] Olena Churanova, editor and fact-checker [00:14:22] of StopFake. She is live from our studio. [00:14:25] Mrs. Olena, I greet you. [00:14:29] Greetings. So we count from third to [00:14:32] first. Third place. This fake [00:14:35] is designed to ridicule Finland's attempts to strengthen [00:14:39] the border with Russia and show them as senseless [00:14:42] and wasteful. In the pro-Russian segment of the network, [00:14:46] news spread that almost 200 km [00:14:49] of fence on the Finnish-Russian border [00:14:52] was allegedly destroyed by wild moose in a few weeks. [00:14:55] It was also claimed that 10 million euros were spent on [00:14:58] the fence, and the Finnish prosecutor's office is now investigating [00:15:02] possible misuse of funds. [00:15:05] To make the story more convincing, they even attributed [00:15:08] to Finland's largest daily newspaper Helsingin [00:15:11] Sanomat a quote that nature itself does not allow us [00:15:15] to separate ourselves from Russia. But the primary source of this news [00:15:19] is the Russian satirical publication IA Panorama, which [00:15:23] publishes fabricated materials. But from there, the story about the moose [00:15:27] was picked up by pro-Russian resources and bloggers began to spread it as [00:15:30] real news. [00:15:33] Concrete figures about the prosecutor's office [00:15:37] and a quote from a well-known newspaper in [00:15:40] Finland were added to the fabricated story, where in this case [00:15:43] satire ends and disinformation begins [00:15:46] and what image of Finland are they trying to create for the Russian [00:15:50] audience? [00:15:53] Well, here it's important to remember that [00:15:57] satire can also be disinformation, and there can be no clear boundary [00:16:00] here, even a meme, of course, a funny [00:16:03] picture can also promote some narrative. And here... [00:16:07] the satirical website, of course, joked about reality, [00:16:10] but at the same time, it was spread as [00:16:14] real news, why, so that, as you said, to create a certain image [00:16:17] of Finland, and what kind of image is that, to [00:16:21] laugh at, that Finland is not a serious threat, that [00:16:24] even some moose can destroy everything that they [00:16:27] really built this fence against Russia, and that this is not [00:16:31] a serious threat to Russia. [00:16:35] Second place, this fake is designed to [00:16:38] increase fear of mobilization and convince [00:16:41] Ukrainians that there are no more volunteers [00:16:44] left. Photos and a short video were circulated on social networks, [00:16:48] allegedly showing Ukrainian military personnel in handcuffs [00:16:51] on their way to the front. The authors of the posts claim that [00:16:55] the men are allegedly being taken to slaughter against their will, [00:16:58] but checking the photo revealed digital marking, which [00:17:02] indicates the use of artificial intelligence during its creation [00:17:06] or editing. There are other details. The camouflage only [00:17:10] resembles Ukrainian Pixel, but has an atypical pattern, [00:17:14] the T-shirts do not have characteristic army [00:17:17] symbols. The video also raises doubts, it is unknown who, [00:17:20] where and when it was filmed, the recording itself does not confirm that the people [00:17:24] shown are mobilized, that they are being taken to the front, or that the photo and video [00:17:28] generally concern the same event. Stop [00:17:31] Fake checked the video using several detectors, one [00:17:34] showed 100% probable [00:17:38] forgery, two others around 60% and [00:17:41] 50%. This does not prove that the entire video was created [00:17:45] by AI, but it gives additional reasons to doubt its [00:17:48] authenticity. So, the topic of forced [00:17:52] mobilization remains one of the main ones for [00:17:55] Russian fakes: have there been more fakes about [00:17:59] mobilization created or edited with the help [00:18:02] of AI, and how much harder is it to recognize [00:18:05] them today? [00:18:09] And how could there not be more, essentially, as soon as ChatGPT appeared, [00:18:12] as soon as all these accessible free tools appeared, even slightly [00:18:16] paid ones, it became easier to create all these fakes [00:18:20] now, and but, if earlier it was easier [00:18:23] to refute them, because we could look at these six fingers, and [00:18:26] at some incorrect ears, some details, [00:18:30] then now, of course, the quality becomes much easier, but [00:18:34] actually in their... refutations and we constantly emphasize that [00:18:38] also, alongside the tools for creating fakes, tools for [00:18:41] refutation are being created, so you can [00:18:44] easily type "AI fake check" into [00:18:48] Google, "ChatGPT fake check", for example, or upload [00:18:51] an image to Gemini and ask if it's artificial [00:18:55] intelligence, and it can give you a certain answer, whether there is really [00:18:58] some generation, and first place, [00:19:02] fake of the week, this fake is designed to... convince [00:19:06] Ukrainians that the fate of Ukraine is allegedly already being decided without [00:19:09] it, and Russia is preparing to dictate to the USA the terms [00:19:13] of ending the war. In the Russian-speaking segment of the network, [00:19:17] an alleged publication by The New York Times [00:19:20] with Russia's demands to Trump [00:19:23] was circulated. Among them are depriving Ukraine of access to [00:19:26] the sea, prohibiting NATO from operating on its territory, and a sharp [00:19:30] reduction of the Ukrainian army. The posts [00:19:33] also included a map of the de facto division of the country. The Southeast [00:19:36] was included in the so-called Novorossiya, the western regions [00:19:39] were given to Poland, Hungary and Romania, and Ukraine [00:19:43] was left with only the central part with Kyiv. [00:19:47] But there is no such publication in The New York Times. [00:19:50] Financial Times also did not publish it, which propagandists referred to in [00:19:54] other posts. The map also turned out to be fake. [00:19:57] It was somehow signed in [00:20:00] Italian, although both publications are English-language. And [00:20:04] a check revealed digital marking [00:20:07] Since ID in the image, which indicates the use [00:20:10] of artificial intelligence. The fake began to [00:20:13] spread against the background of negotiations between representatives of Donald Trump, Steve [00:20:16] Whitkoff and Jared Kushner, first in Moscow, and then [00:20:20] in Kyiv. The real negotiations were used by propagandists as a backdrop [00:20:24] for completely fabricated terms [00:20:27] of Russia. So the topic of alleged division [00:20:30] of Ukraine returns in fakes precisely against the background of negotiations [00:20:34] on ending the war. How to check [00:20:37] a loud insight with a reference to [00:20:41] Western media in a few minutes and not become [00:20:44] part of its [00:20:47] dissemination. It's very simple, you see that there is [00:20:51] Times Financial Times, you just copy the name of this media and next to it [00:20:55] you write exactly the thesis that is being spread, [00:20:58] if no such article, such material, such quote is found, [00:21:02] then it is only a fabrication of Russian [00:21:05] propagandists, therefore we learn how to use [00:21:09] Google, it is our everything, it is our first [00:21:12] tool for verification, and there are very [00:21:15] many different opportunities to check this information and that's it, that is, [00:21:19] we are looking for the primary source. We analyzed three different fakes: [00:21:23] about moose allegedly destroying Finland's fence on the border with [00:21:27] Russia, Ukrainian military personnel allegedly [00:21:30] sent to the front in handcuffs, and fabricated conditions [00:21:33] for Russia to end the war, attributed to The New [00:21:37] York Times. The topics are different, but the logic is similar: [00:21:40] present satire as real news, use questionable [00:21:44] photos and videos as proof, or cover up a fabricated [00:21:47] story with the name of authoritative Western [00:21:51] media. Thank you to Olena Churanova, editor and [00:21:54] fact-checker of StopFake and the entire StopFake team. [00:21:57] The algorithms of lies work, but we don't stop. [00:22:13] Now the main thing. Information and analytical show about [00:22:16] Ukraine and the world. Politics, economy, war and security. [00:22:20] Without manipulations, emotions and simplifications, we analyze [00:22:23] the events of the day, decisions that are being made right now and [00:22:27] their consequences for the country and society. Presenters and [00:22:30] experts explain complex things clearly. [00:22:33] This is not just a news broadcast, it is a guide in the complex [00:22:37] information reality. Now the main thing. [00:22:40] In the evening on Espresso. 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[00:28:09] Hello everyone, friends, this is Maryna Danyliuk Kermalaieva, now about the main thing, [00:28:13] the results of the week on the Espreso channel, these are subjective [00:28:16] results of the week, where we will deal with [00:28:19] the most important scandals, our scandals are corrupt, [00:28:22] undoubtedly, and they concern Zelenskyy's close circle, [00:28:26] those people who received all sorts of benefits, all sorts of [00:28:30] positions during Zelenskyy's era. [00:28:32] President Zelenskyy pretends not to know these people, and that he didn't [00:28:36] appoint them, and that he sees them for the first time and hears nothing about their escape abroad, [00:28:39] and people abroad behave [00:28:43] differently, but they have a common goal: to get political asylum [00:28:46] somewhere, to mess up the state of Ukraine, which gave you all [00:28:50] the benefits, and in this way possibly somehow [00:28:53] restart your political and business career. And [00:28:57] we will certainly begin with a new series of attacks [00:29:01] on Naboo Isab. The fact is that the past week [00:29:05] began with exactly a new attempt [00:29:08] to hack these anti-corruption institutions that do not [00:29:12] let Zelenskyy's close circle sleep, all these acquaintances of [00:29:15] Timur Mindich, Andriy Yermak, because [00:29:18] all these Ukrainian top corrupt officials are very afraid of [00:29:22] Nabusep, this is a direct quote from the tapes on Nabusep and the words [00:29:26] of Iryna Mudra, and in this way all these [00:29:28] top corrupt officials are thinking how not to respond. by [00:29:32] law, not to be in the courtroom where you feel very [00:29:36] uncomfortable under the gun of various [00:29:39] cameras, and then your quotes, [00:29:42] your images, what everything costs on you, are dragged out, this is very [00:29:45] uncomfortable, of course, we all understand, moreover, it's very [00:29:49] uncomfortable when a bracelet is put on you, all [00:29:52] of us watched a very interesting [00:29:55] epic with Andriy Borysovych Yermak, who, I remind you, [00:29:59] is also under corruption suspicion, [00:30:02] precisely because of part of these [00:30:05] Naboo tapes and Sap, and this [00:30:08] person initially manipulated letters from military [00:30:12] units in order to ride around and pretend to be a top lawyer, [00:30:16] a top human rights activist, and [00:30:19] now Andriy Yermak has also brought medical documents [00:30:22] to the Waks, where it is written that Andriy [00:30:26] Borysovych's health is very bad, and he cannot [00:30:29] wear an electronic bracelet in any way, because... this greatly [00:30:33] worsens his state of health, [00:30:36] absolutely strange, you know, thing, because [00:30:39] during Zelenskyy's era, we observed a number of high-profile [00:30:42] cases, for example, the case of Roman Chervinsky, and Roman [00:30:46] Chervinsky, for a long time, by the way, first sat in a pre-trial detention center, [00:30:49] and then also wore an electronic bracelet, even sat under house [00:30:53] arrest, well, and somehow the person did not complain that his health [00:30:56] deteriorated very sharply, due to the fact that he did not...