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[00:00:00] that's how it all began, the father offered
[00:00:03] a job as a social
[00:00:04] worker,
[00:00:08] and people started, they kept
[00:00:12] calling constantly,
[00:00:15] some have phones, the same ones, not just
[00:00:19] feature phones, smartphones, but they don't really
[00:00:22] understand them,
[00:00:25] well, and help, well, as if
[00:00:29] we...
[00:00:31] in everything
[00:00:34] we have to,
[00:00:37] monitoring health status, in the morning,
[00:00:40] in the evening, there, measuring blood pressure,
[00:00:44] saturation, that kind of thing, this, to monitor when
[00:00:47] to call an ambulance,
[00:00:51] well, prescriptions, some people cannot take
[00:00:55] them themselves, it is necessary to control, those that
[00:00:58] doctors prescribe.
[00:01:24] Why did you decide not to go to your children,
[00:01:27] why did you decide to stay exactly like this?
[00:01:34] Well, I was already working here, so there's no one to
[00:01:38] replace me,
[00:01:41] I understand that
[00:01:44] you understand, just yesterday, for example, a
[00:01:47] woman's blood pressure there the day before yesterday rose to 200 and
[00:01:50] above, well, and
[00:01:53] they don't feel it, but the woman has already had a stroke,
[00:01:56] and it means, well...
[00:02:00] she is already 80 years old, 79, to be
[00:02:03] precise,
[00:02:06] so there were beloved
[00:02:09] consequences,
[00:02:12] so there's no one to leave them with, I would say, how do
[00:02:15] people react to the fact that you are helping, that
[00:02:19] you stayed here, helping and I am next to
[00:02:22] them,
[00:02:26] well, okay, I once got sick, so... they
[00:02:30] visited me, we, well, I am currently living at
[00:02:34] the father's apiary, he
[00:02:37] offered, at first,
[00:02:39] well, since then, so
[00:02:43] with him, they visited me
[00:02:45] constantly,
[00:02:50] yes, well, how to say, we are already like a family
[00:02:54] here, I would say,
[00:02:57] they have determined. they feel a certain support, well,
[00:02:59] maybe, they thank you for what you
[00:03:03] do, constantly, constantly,
[00:03:06] constantly, constantly,
[00:03:09] well, as I said, twice a day you have to
[00:03:12] do measurements and everything,
[00:03:15] necessarily, I leave the
[00:03:18] room, thank you, Pavlo Oleksiiovych,
[00:03:22] first of all, I talk to people, always,
[00:03:25] well, from the point of view of optimism,
[00:03:29] it can always be... worse, many people ask about someone's relatives'
[00:03:32] birthdays or something, they need to find a postcard on Google
[00:03:36] and send a
[00:03:39] greeting there, one
[00:03:43] grandmother, for example, because
[00:03:45] her children rarely
[00:03:48] write, so she, well, she
[00:03:51] worries, she is afraid that something
[00:03:55] happened to them, and they
[00:03:59] start...
[00:04:01] so I literally wrote to them, you at least once a week
[00:04:05] write something to your mother,
[00:04:09] so that she is calm,
[00:04:12] well, and so, I also have to
[00:04:16] do documents for people, the same certificates
[00:04:19] for internally displaced persons,
[00:04:23] well, or go to the city and
[00:04:27] get identification codes, well, everything... in a row
[00:04:30] and help with finances,
[00:04:33] many people don't know how to use ATMs there
[00:04:36] or again, you need to go to
[00:04:40] the bank, so well
[00:04:44] there are those who can go themselves, but
[00:04:47] there are, well, about, well, I don't know,
[00:04:51] four men, maybe who can
[00:04:54] do it themselves nearby, well,
[00:04:57] we have to drive the others, and we also have. and palliative
[00:05:01] ones, so to speak, that is
[00:05:04] bedridden, well, we need to,
[00:05:08] well, take care of them,
[00:05:11] so our women in the team are such that
[00:05:14] they constantly
[00:05:18] help these people, because they are not able to help
[00:05:21] themselves, one who is
[00:05:24] already 93 says, I'm already
[00:05:27] tired of living, and she is a little sick, she has
[00:05:30] abscesses, well, pleurisy, abscess, all that
[00:05:34] was there, she was going to have fluid drained in the city,
[00:05:37] but she refused at that time,
[00:05:41] after that... she signed
[00:05:45] a refusal, well, after that, here on
[00:05:49] the spot,
[00:05:51] ah, she regretted refusing, because
[00:05:55] sometimes she feels bad because of that, well, there's no acute
[00:05:58] process, temperature is normal,
[00:06:02] and when they turned to those doctors again, they
[00:06:05] said we, well, it's good that we didn't do anything there, it
[00:06:09] might have gotten worse, well, 93 years old.
[00:06:13] Well, and when she tells me,
[00:06:17] I don't want to, I'm tired of all this, well, although
[00:06:21] she's great, she sways when walking, well,
[00:06:24] her gait is not very confident, she holds on to
[00:06:28] the walls, well, but
[00:06:31] she walks around every day, well, she doesn't
[00:06:34] stay in bed, and to those words that she is already
[00:06:38] tired, I tell her, listen, I say, Andrey,
[00:06:43] Halyna Andriyivna, look,
[00:06:46] you are now 93 years old, and when you turn
[00:06:50] 100, correspondents will definitely come to us, well, there are not
[00:06:54] many such people, I say, maybe there will be some
[00:06:57] help for our arrival, well,
[00:07:01] in this way, you actually need
[00:07:05] to support them in this way to encourage them, so that
[00:07:08] they continue to live, you know?
[00:07:12] In fact, Mr.
[00:07:15] Pavlo, such shelters, they not only
[00:07:18] need such care, but also the support of such
[00:07:22] caring people like you, but they also need funding,
[00:07:26] how do you manage to get such shelters, I propose to listen to
[00:07:30] experts further, the shelters of the Caritas network, and
[00:07:33] communal institutions, and state institutions,
[00:07:36] which are collective places
[00:07:39] of temporary residence, collective centers, and this is...
[00:07:42] a very good temporary solution for
[00:07:45] people, for any person who is currently
[00:07:48] in danger, under shelling,
[00:07:52] and has no confidence in what to do
[00:07:56] next, if she decides to evacuate,
[00:07:59] then such shelters, some of them operate for several months
[00:08:03] providing help, some for six months, and some
[00:08:06] for much longer, but this is
[00:08:09] definitely that effective help. which can
[00:08:13] become a helping hand
[00:08:16] for people and for a person
[00:08:19] to dare to leave for a safer
[00:08:23] territory. Unfortunately, or fortunately, such a story as Mr.
[00:08:27] Pavlo's is not unique for
[00:08:30] our organization, for our large network,
[00:08:34] because it often happens that a person
[00:08:37] at some critical moment of his
[00:08:40] life received help. when he needed such
[00:08:44] help, he recovered and found the
[00:08:47] strength to provide such help
[00:08:51] in return, understanding already the needs,
[00:08:54] and understanding what and how and where
[00:08:58] can be helpful, and having strength, and having
[00:09:02] aspiration, having great responsibility, therefore
[00:09:05] I always with gratitude
[00:09:08] to Mr. Pavlo and to
[00:09:11] similar... stories I treat, and
[00:09:15] Caritas, the entire Caritas network always
[00:09:17] supports such initiatives. Mr. Pavlo,
[00:09:21] in fact, you have a difficult job, you constantly
[00:09:24] need, these elderly people, they constantly need support, including
[00:09:28] your support, and you, you put
[00:09:31] your soul into them, your strength, what motivates you not
[00:09:34] to give up now on this path, not to abandon
[00:09:37] everything, but you continue to stay here on
[00:09:41] the spot and continue. to help the needy
[00:09:44] people here,
[00:09:49] because I can do this,
[00:09:52] well, if I, for example, couldn't, that would be another
[00:09:56] matter, well, if it's within my power, I do what
[00:09:59] I can, well, and
[00:10:02] in fact, I myself
[00:10:05] rejoice when I succeed in something, for example, there are
[00:10:08] such
[00:10:10] things that people ask for, that I, for example, haven't done
[00:10:14] before, well, and when I succeed, well, I rejoice
[00:10:17] in it myself, well, some experience appears, well,
[00:10:21] I would also like to say
[00:10:24] a few. a few words about those
[00:10:27] who are still
[00:10:31] in the combat zone among people,
[00:10:34] well, that is, they don't want to leave their property,
[00:10:38] housing, well, I would say that
[00:10:42] life and health are the greatest
[00:10:45] value, priorities must
[00:10:48] be exactly these, well,
[00:10:52] because after the loss of life... or
[00:10:55] injury, it will already be difficult,
[00:10:58] well, and impossible to do
[00:11:01] anything, well, here there will be some hope,
[00:11:04] the main thing is to be safe.
[00:11:08] Mr. Pavlo, thank you for your work, for the sacrifice,
[00:11:11] in fact, that you put your strength into, which you
[00:11:15] give to these elderly people, who
[00:11:19] are in this shelter, thank you for working there, and in fact
[00:11:22] giving them hope for life. Thank you for joining
[00:11:26] the conversation today. Thank you for being with us, may people who inspire
[00:11:30] be near. See you!
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[00:16:49] they tortured for living a long time, for being rich,
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[00:17:11] what will happen if it hits us now,
[00:17:14] she is terribly afraid of this, that's why maybe we
[00:17:18] left quickly because of this, maybe we would have stayed longer, maybe you know, like people,
[00:17:21] it will get better, there will be no more shelling, but then it all
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[00:17:29] her vision deteriorated, then these shellings started,
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[00:22:41] On the line of contact and in the enemy's rear. The enemy
[00:22:44] will not understand where death came from. Special
[00:22:48] Operations Forces. Always beyond the limit.
[00:23:04] They persistently make their way into the military and overcome all
[00:23:08] obstacles to achieve Ukraine's victory on par with
[00:23:11] men. This is the story of women at war. My name is
[00:23:14] Khrystyna Parobiy. Welcome. "My
[00:23:17] brother," that's what comrades-in-arms call Olha with the call sign
[00:23:20] "Bambi." From the first days of service, she heard that she had no
[00:23:24] place in the army because she raises a son herself, but
[00:23:27] she managed to change the opinion of men about women in
[00:23:30] the army, as the heroine
[00:23:32] will tell further:
[00:23:36] I didn't meet a single man who would say, "Listen, you have
[00:23:40] children," but at the same time, I myself, from the first day of service, constantly heard
[00:23:43] this
[00:23:44] phrase,
[00:23:48] by the end of our joint.
[00:23:51] they thanked me for changing their
[00:23:54] perception of women in the military, I became
[00:23:58] like a real brother to them, a real
[00:24:01] brother,
[00:24:05] my son is proud of me, and I feel it so
[00:24:09] sincerely,
[00:24:11] my name is Olga, my call sign is Bambi and I am a medical
[00:24:15] instructor in the National Guard of Ukraine, since my name is
[00:24:18] Olga, my... my mother always affectionately
[00:24:21] called me fawn, so,
[00:24:24] and at some point I had to choose a call sign in the military, and
[00:24:28] nothing stuck to me for a very long time, everyone addressed me
[00:24:31] by family name or Ms. Sergeant, and
[00:24:35] with the call sign there was always a big problem, in fact, and then before
[00:24:39] going to combat, my mother gave me a t-shirt
[00:24:43] with Bambi, and I looked at it and thought, a fawn,
[00:24:46] Bambi, like, this is it.
[00:24:53] When I was little, I was always very drawn to the
[00:24:56] military, my godfather arranged some minimal
[00:25:00] basic training for me, physical exertion, because I promised
[00:25:03] that one day I would come to serve with him. I had experience working
[00:25:07] in medicine, I worked as a dental assistant,
[00:25:10] I also had quite extensive practice in various departments
[00:25:14] of surgery, so, but in the end, my official
[00:25:17] job was a kindergarten. The presence
[00:25:21] of a child became quite a
[00:25:24] triggering moment in the army, because I did not meet
[00:25:28] a single man who would say, "Listen, you have children," but at the same time, I
[00:25:32] myself, from the first day of service, constantly heard this phrase, it
[00:25:36] was very difficult, but my family, my
[00:25:39] mother, my mother supported me very much in this,
[00:25:42] and even before the full-scale invasion, we discussed with her
[00:25:46] the moment that in case of our
[00:25:49] son... I would join the army,
[00:25:52] because I am a medic, I can help, I have hands, I have legs, so
[00:25:56] and I am completely
[00:25:57] capable.
[00:26:00] I met the beginning of the war in...
[00:26:09] It started, somewhere around the
[00:26:11] 26th-27th of February, we were already leaving on
[00:26:15] an evacuation train, together with
[00:26:17] our son, his scooter, which he refused to leave
[00:26:21] at home, this scooter is a symbol of invincibility for us, I
[00:26:24] remember a lot of children, a lot of women, all this
[00:26:27] crying, we ended up with our son
[00:26:31] traveling in the vestibule, we were in
[00:26:34] the vestibule, I sat with him squatting, he
[00:26:37] slept in my arms, and then, when we arrived in Lviv, I was
[00:26:41] ready to kiss the cobblestones at the station, because the journey was really
[00:26:45] very
[00:26:45] difficult.
[00:26:49] March 1st, apparently, my godparents
[00:26:53] called me, my godfather, and said
[00:26:56] that medics were urgently needed, and if she knew anyone who was willing
[00:27:00] to go, and I immediately said
[00:27:03] a day later at 7:30 I was already
[00:27:06] at the threshold of the military unit in a pink tracksuit
[00:27:10] and started paving my
[00:27:13] way in the army, practically from the very first day I
[00:27:17] understood that they didn't want to see me there, they didn't want
[00:27:20] to take me, because I am a woman, because I have
[00:27:23] a child, well, and because society has set
[00:27:27] other tasks for me,
[00:27:30] well, and when I started... trying to communicate with
[00:27:33] people, I had a completely different idea, I
[00:27:37] thought that one could speak gently, calmly,
[00:27:41] people would understand this and accept it, but quite quickly it became
[00:27:44] clear to me that in the army it's either you or them,
[00:27:48] and since I was the only woman in the
[00:27:50] unit,
[00:27:53] I had to make quite an interesting choice and
[00:27:56] actually become such a dominant
[00:27:58] link, well, where I had to...
[00:28:02] manage, in fact, I performed the duties
[00:28:05] of the head of the medical point of the battalion, well, I had
[00:28:09] several men under
[00:28:11] my command, older than me, bigger than me,
[00:28:15] well, and it was quite difficult to gain their
[00:28:19] authority and respect. The first wounded were
[00:28:22] quite a stressful event for
[00:28:26] me, because it's one thing when you work in a nice, clean and
[00:28:29] calm surgical department, all together...
[00:28:32] when everything is exploding around you, they
[00:28:35] bring you people on the brink of life and death,
[00:28:38] and well, you just start playing a race with
[00:28:42] death and try to defeat it,
[00:28:45] this is a very expensive and very painful experience, because
[00:28:48] the hardest thing, perhaps, in our
[00:28:52] work is to constantly see broken destinies,
[00:28:56] the most painful for us,
[00:28:58] unidentified wounded who
[00:29:02] die in your arms, this is just, this is
[00:29:05] the first two hundred, and I remember it very
[00:29:09] clearly, a person with an open craniocerebral
[00:29:12] injury, with no documents,
[00:29:15] no dog tag, who was very difficult to identify by
[00:29:19] face, and this was very
[00:29:22] memorable, it hit very
[00:29:24] hard,
[00:29:26] young guys, for whom, when you write form 100,
[00:29:30] the first digits of the birth year
[00:29:32] are 2000 and there 2005,
[00:29:35] 2004, well, you don't believe in this
[00:29:39] reality at all, and the wounded
[00:29:42] who asked to be finished off, there was
[00:29:45] a wounded man with an injury to both
[00:29:48] eyes, who, well,
[00:29:52] very actively screamed that he begged to save his
[00:29:55] eye, and we couldn't understand why only the eye, because the person had
[00:29:59] both injured, as it turned out, one had already
[00:30:03] a protest, well, but in the end he lost both, the person
[00:30:06] completely lost his sight,
[00:30:10] the summer of 2024, it was generally very
[00:30:14] busy, so very scary and busy
[00:30:18] at the same time, the work was extremely intense,
[00:30:21] just the medics who worked in principle in all
[00:30:25] areas of the front, these are simply the gods of war,
[00:30:27] indeed, there were a lot of
[00:30:30] wounded, people... people with amputations just
[00:30:34] sat in line, because well, they sat, lay, whatever
[00:30:37] they could, there was just not enough hands, not enough
[00:30:41] tables, and well, the situation was really critical, if there is
[00:30:44] an evacuation, you will work, you will
[00:30:47] work for a day, you will work for two days in a row, if it's needed,
[00:30:50] and if the guys need your help,
[00:30:54] you sleep for an hour, you sleep 5 minutes, you sleep there
[00:30:57] for a couple of hours, you don't have any.