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[00:16:48] Wounded soldiers, missing persons, captured displaced persons appeared in
[00:16:52] Ukraine during the Russian-Ukrainian war.
[00:16:55] They have their own problems, which we, as media workers, society and
[00:16:59] the state, cannot close our eyes to. So in this studio
[00:17:02] we will discuss these difficulties, this is the "Live" project, my name is
[00:17:06] Khrystyna Porubiy. Hello,
[00:17:09] plumbing,
[00:17:11] electrics, pencils
[00:17:14] to cover chips. In this shot, veteran
[00:17:17] Yuriy Novitsky is showing his tools to make
[00:17:21] another apartment renovation. What do we have there? Three-way wipers,
[00:17:25] under-hood cleaning, that is, we completely clean
[00:17:28] And this is Oleh Haradiy, showing
[00:17:32] his own business, a car wash.
[00:17:35] These men are united by being Ukrainian.
[00:17:38] And also by the problem they faced when returning to civilian
[00:17:41] life: finding a job. Mr. Yuriy served in the 125th
[00:17:44] Separate Heavy Mechanized Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. From
[00:17:48] the first days of the full-scale invasion
[00:17:52] army. At the beginning of 2023, the soldier was wounded in
[00:17:56] Donetsk region. Six wounds, punctured
[00:17:59] lung, shoulder blades, half torn out,
[00:18:03] right biceps, well, here the tendons
[00:18:06] are severed. And a leg, well, maybe
[00:18:09] something else I got, and also here I was just shot at
[00:18:13] by tanks and everything you want, mortars, and
[00:18:16] accordingly to survive there, it's very lucky, you
[00:18:20] look for harmony in this life, you don't find it, and then you realize, you survived
[00:18:24] there and shouldn't have survived, because there
[00:18:26] were so many
[00:18:30] they pumped me out and so on, and you think, well, you don't
[00:18:33] just survive, you have to
[00:18:37] тому... дати і щось знайти в тому житті. Півроку
[00:18:40] Yuriy underwent rehabilitation
[00:18:44] home and started looking for
[00:18:47] - to become a masseur. Office
[00:18:51] робота чи малорухливий спосіб життя йому не підходили, адже аби
[00:18:55] втамувати сильний біль, чоловіку необхідно постійно рухатися та
[00:18:58] He tried working in various
[00:19:02] fields, but failed.
[00:19:04] He practically constantly encountered
[00:19:08] the fact that they don't want to hire veterans because they are crazy,
[00:19:11] well, in most cases there is such an option, but I
[00:19:15] am not that bad, unless it's local, then
[00:19:19] I started really wanting to return, but then
[00:19:22] I realized that other ailments were emerging, I needed to take care
[00:19:26] of my health and work, accordingly I needed something to
[00:19:29] live on, and I looked for drones,
[00:19:33] work on drones, I worked, we found with
[00:19:35] a comrade to assemble.
[00:19:41] different antennas and in principle it was somehow normal, because you do
[00:19:45] something useful, something normal for victory, and then after a month we were told not to
[00:19:48] come anymore, for unknown reasons, we coped normally on a par with
[00:19:52] others, they said that students are cheaper
[00:19:54] it somehow fell
[00:19:58] to do something for someone, you want, well, so that, because it's
[00:20:02] a thousand a day for 8 hours of hard work, essentially
[00:20:05] it was.
[00:20:10] everything hurt, and you realize that you are not
[00:20:12] needed there, it was very
[00:20:16] unclear how two of us veterans after being wounded
[00:20:19] were fired from work, despite all attempts to get a job and
[00:20:23] understand what you want to do, I remembered my
[00:20:26] calling from childhood, and I remembered that since childhood I always
[00:20:30] loved to break things, everything that was some toys, everything was
[00:20:34] broken, all clocks disassembled, I never
[00:20:37] repaired anything and realized that it was probably
[00:20:41] mine, so I probably started repairing things,
[00:20:44] assembling those cabinets,
[00:20:47] furniture, plumbing. Although by
[00:20:50] profession I am a music teacher, so
[00:20:53] it doesn't coincide all together. Today Yuriy is
[00:20:57] already has his own clients who
[00:21:01] help with
[00:21:03] household tasks.
[00:21:09] In this man's workshop, it's always
[00:21:12] loud.
[00:21:17] Because here Mr. Oleh and the guys are engaged in
[00:21:21] professional car care, I was always interested in cars,
[00:21:25] and before the full-scale invasion
[00:21:28] cars, only I repaired
[00:21:32] them, but since spinal injuries make themselves
[00:21:35] heavy work or stand
[00:21:39] so I decided that I needed to do
[00:21:42] some easier work and decided to get into
[00:21:46] detailing, it's also kind of
[00:21:49] but... I don't get such big physical loads
[00:21:52] as in repair, when you repair a car.
[00:21:56] Since the beginning of the full-scale Russian aggression against Ukraine, the man served
[00:22:00] in units of the Main Intelligence Directorate, then in the Chernihiv and
[00:22:03] Donetsk directions. He decided to work for himself after being discharged from
[00:22:07] service, took a training course and opened a veteran business. It was
[00:22:11] a bit difficult, it didn't happen immediately, like, I got discharged
[00:22:14] and immediately
[00:22:18] I also had some psychological
[00:22:21] difficulties, and
[00:22:24] actually I was a little bit confused, I didn't know
[00:22:28] what to take on, like, already
[00:22:31] later, when I, let's say, I realized that my
[00:22:35] condition had normalized, and I thought, damn, you
[00:22:39] wanted to do this, what are you thinking, just do what
[00:22:42] you wanted, Mr. Oleh continues to develop his own business,
[00:22:46] won a grant and aims not only to improve the business, but also
[00:22:50] to involve his comrades
[00:22:53] was in the veteran corps, I also emphasized to the guys there,
[00:22:56] who don't have a job, who want to learn, want
[00:23:00] to develop, of course, please, we always
[00:23:03] invite veterans are generally a
[00:23:05] priority,
[00:23:09] let them come, these are my comrades, finding a job when
[00:23:13] returning to civilian life for
[00:23:16] challenge, now in Ukraine there are already about one...
[00:23:21] veterans, most of them face low
[00:23:24] wages. A person who,
[00:23:27] after a salary of 30,000 in peacetime,
[00:23:30] entered the military world,
[00:23:34] where the salary increased somewhat, increased somewhat, everyone remembers,
[00:23:38] in particular, how 100,000 was not some kind
[00:23:42] of fantasy in combat, in fact, I also earned
[00:23:45] 100,000 when I was in combat, 100,000 bonuses, this in a certain
[00:23:49] way... changes you, and to go back and work
[00:23:52] for 30,000, it already seems to you that it's below your
[00:23:56] dignity. This is a very big threshold that is very difficult to cross. In the previous
[00:23:59] year alone, over 57% of veterans
[00:24:02] faced difficulties with employment after
[00:24:06] service. These results were published by the Ukrainian
[00:24:09] Veterans Fund. The most common reasons cited were inadequate
[00:24:13] salaries, physical health problems, their own psycho-emotional
[00:24:17] discrimination.
[00:24:23] So, what opportunities are there for veterans' employment, we will
[00:24:26] discuss further in the program, we have the Deputy Minister for Veterans
[00:24:30] Affairs of Ukraine, Yulia Kyrylova, on the line. Ms.
[00:24:33] Yulia, I welcome you, thank you for joining us today
[00:24:36] on air. Good afternoon. So, I
[00:24:40] will start with figures, as of mid- 2026,
[00:24:43] the number of veterans in Ukraine reaches over
[00:24:47] 1.8 million veterans. These
[00:24:50] data were announced by ex-Prime Minister
[00:24:53] Yulia Svyrydenko. And at the third conference on veteran reintegration,
[00:24:56] the Government announced that by 2030, it will be able
[00:25:00] to employ 100,000 veterans. Tell us, what
[00:25:04] vacancies, now and conditions do you offer veterans. Who will be these
[00:25:07] employers and what will be the conditions for these
[00:25:10] people?
[00:25:13] Yes, actually, I want to emphasize that in this case the Ministry of
[00:25:17] Veterans Affairs is not... the body that
[00:25:21] distributes any vacancies, that is, the ministry
[00:25:24] forms a system in which a veteran is not left
[00:25:28] alone with the labor market, that is, our key
[00:25:32] task is to remove those barriers that exist today
[00:25:35] employer. First
[00:25:38] of all, if we are talking about veterans, then
[00:25:42] this is to
[00:25:45] discharge from military
[00:25:48] his skills and abilities that he acquired during
[00:25:52] проходження військової служби, допомогти
[00:25:55] him go through retraining, find
[00:25:57] an employer, actually help the employer
[00:26:01] the workplace, and in fact here
[00:26:04] government programs have been created to
[00:26:07] compensate the cost of re-equipping workplaces
[00:26:11] for persons with disabilities and
[00:26:13] persons with disabilities due to the war, including,
[00:26:16] in fact, this is also the training of teams, because
[00:26:19] a veteran returns first of all to
[00:26:23] a team, and we must be ready to prepare
[00:26:26] our teams for the fact that veterans
[00:26:30] will return with their unique experience. into this particular
[00:26:33] team, so our basic task as a state in
[00:26:36] employers, and we this
[00:26:39] year, in fact, during this conference, the state target
[00:26:42] program "Veteran-Work"
[00:26:45] was approved,
[00:26:47] which actually provides for all these
[00:26:49] ways for veterans to,
[00:26:53] after returning from military
[00:26:56] service, be able to find themselves in
[00:26:59] civilian employment, this is actually interaction
[00:27:02] with career advisors of our support specialists, this
[00:27:06] is also veteran support from the moment of demobilization
[00:27:08] to the moment of his
[00:27:11] employment, and also for a year
[00:27:14] after employment, that is, we do not
[00:27:18] set ourselves the goal of collecting indicators of how many veterans we
[00:27:21] employed, for us now the key is how many
[00:27:25] veterans stayed in their jobs
[00:27:28] after employment, and here, our specialists...
[00:27:32] together with career advisors develop
[00:27:36] an individual employment plan and a monitoring
[00:27:39] plan, if a person, after
[00:27:43] getting employed at a specific
[00:27:46] enterprise, has some problems with work, wants
[00:27:50] to change this job, or lacks some knowledge,
[00:27:53] skills or abilities, then our support specialists
[00:27:57] acquire during military help, through our
[00:28:00] programs, to find that place where she can undergo
[00:28:04] some retraining or improve, confirm her
[00:28:08] qualification, recognize her qualification skills
[00:28:11] that she, for example, acquired during military service, and here
[00:28:15] we have worked out a great thanks to the national agency
[00:28:18] of qualifications for the map of qualification
[00:28:22] centers and the creation of additional qualification
[00:28:25] centers for veterans to
[00:28:28] be able to recognize those qualif...cation skills that
[00:28:31] they acquired during service,
[00:28:35] but do not have, for example, an official
[00:28:38] document from some educational
[00:28:42] institution to confirm that the person has undergone such training,
[00:28:45] however, in the security and defense sector, she could
[00:28:48] have undergone such training, she could have worked in this
[00:28:52] profession, accordingly
[00:28:54] the qualification center will help this person confirm
[00:28:57] the qualification, and she will be able to officially work in
[00:29:00] this position in...
[00:29:05] According to the data from the Ukrainian Veterans Fund,
[00:29:08] 31% of unemployment is among veterans.
[00:29:12] And most often, veterans say that they cannot find
[00:29:15] a job due to inappropriate salaries. We understand that when
[00:29:19] a veteran returns from the combat zone,
[00:29:22] where he received 100,000 and more in salary,
[00:29:26] he returns here, and here,
[00:29:29] let's be frank, there are no such salaries in the rear...
[00:29:32] What steps is the government currently taking, in particular
[00:29:36] the ministry, and finally, what, in your opinion, can be done to resolve this
[00:29:39] issue?
[00:29:42] Actually, look, for us, if we talk about
[00:29:46] unemployment statistics among veterans, for us, it is
[00:29:49] a priority not just to push a person into some vacancy,
[00:29:53] a specific job there, or perhaps into the
[00:29:57] sphere where she worked before, just
[00:30:00] to close this... statistics there somehow
[00:30:03] to equalize, to raise unemployment, for us here, first
[00:30:07] of all, it is important to evaluate the experience
[00:30:10] that a person gains during service.
[00:30:14] Indeed, we cannot say that a veteran
[00:30:18] should receive more at the enterprise, the salary
[00:30:21] should be equal for everyone, because we are all
[00:30:25] employees, civilian employees, and
[00:30:29] this is about the principle of justice first.
[00:30:32] in terms of remuneration, if we talk about veterans, how
[00:30:36] can we equalize this, or raise it,
[00:30:39] or help these people earn more, this is what
[00:30:43] I told you, accordingly, this
[00:30:45] is about
[00:30:47] recognizing those skills, knowledge and abilities that people
[00:30:51] service.
[00:30:54] And once, a long time ago, we discussed
[00:30:57] this area with employees of the banking sector,
[00:31:01] when we... when we launched
[00:31:04] this state target program, and to
[00:31:07] my question, to what position do you...