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[00:00:02] well, in shots, but the work of F-16s,
[00:00:06] maintenance, and so on, duty, all
[00:00:09] of this affects the cost
[00:00:12] of shooting down, so we are going the way of reactive
[00:00:15] interceptors
[00:00:18] with subsequent scaling of a normal solution that will
[00:00:21] be developed, and also the way of
[00:00:24] missiles, small missiles,
[00:00:27] inexpensive ones with new types of homing
[00:00:31] heads by, television
[00:00:34] trail, by well
[00:00:37] connected to the head
[00:00:39] with video guidance, that is,
[00:00:43] these things are part of the puzzle,
[00:00:47] the next, the next part is REB complexes that
[00:00:50] are supposed to shoot down targets, shoot down
[00:00:54] navigation missiles, uh, that's
[00:00:57] what, well, the main thing.
[00:01:00] Unexpectedly for everyone, turrets on
[00:01:03] artificial intelligence started shooting something down, here we need to collect
[00:01:07] statistics to understand if it was a bingo, or if they
[00:01:10] can really work in a dive, you say
[00:01:13] 600-700 km, now they tested it over
[00:01:17] the week, a week ago their cruising speed was
[00:01:20] sometimes 800 km, what does this mean, if it
[00:01:24] goes 800 km, not in a dive, but at
[00:01:28] cruising speed. This means that in a dive it can
[00:01:31] reach 100-100 km/h
[00:01:35] attack, I think that turrets with
[00:01:38] artificial intelligence will cope, because
[00:01:42] the software update system must be
[00:01:45] accustomed to it, and we will see if it will physically detect
[00:01:49] in time and not just detect this
[00:01:51] drone, but also determine where
[00:01:55] to dump so that in the next moment to understand
[00:01:59] at what point it will be. That is, it is quite a complex story, and therefore
[00:02:02] this complex of measures forms the system
[00:02:06] of defense of the country. Mr. Valeriy, that is,
[00:02:09] we understand, these turrets are, as they say, the last hope, it would already
[00:02:13] have to shoot down only at a low altitude,
[00:02:17] but when you talk about cruising at 800, we also
[00:02:21] hear that Russian terrorist occupiers say,
[00:02:24] let's try to quickly accelerate to
[00:02:28] 900, maybe more. And in this case, we
[00:02:31] recall that a year and a half
[00:02:34] ago these jet Geraniums
[00:02:38] were used against Ukraine, and
[00:02:41] the need to act according to the same principle
[00:02:44] of technological warfare, there is
[00:02:47] a threat, we are working on a means of destruction,
[00:02:51] and everyone complains, and including the military also
[00:02:54] told us that it's kind of strange,
[00:02:57] a year and a half to react to... now they are talking about
[00:03:01] acceleration, have we learned
[00:03:04] lessons from that Geran 5, and are we
[00:03:08] already working on means that should
[00:03:11] protect our cities from 900
[00:03:14] thousand-kilometer high-speed something, I don't know, Geran-6
[00:03:18] they will call it or what.
[00:03:22] I don't see that lessons have been learned yet, I don't feel it, I want to tell you
[00:03:25] more, for example, fiber-optic drones, we
[00:03:28] were the first to show them.
[00:03:30] even before the war, and they were not scaled,
[00:03:34] but the Russians went this way and strongly
[00:03:38] opposed us when they came to Kurtsina,
[00:03:41] so, this is one point, that is, they did not
[00:03:45] react then and we lagged behind, indeed
[00:03:47] a year and a half ago, when jet drones came to the regions
[00:03:51] that are closer to the contact line,
[00:03:55] then they flew, if you remember,
[00:03:58] to Kyiv, then already... then, I
[00:04:01] personally, and my colleagues said that, I said
[00:04:05] that 80%, get ready, there will be jet
[00:04:08] drones, they needed
[00:04:11] a year to actually
[00:04:14] scale all this, so, and during
[00:04:18] this year no
[00:04:21] technical task was given by the Ministry of Defense,
[00:04:24] by the General Staff, saying,
[00:04:27] let's find this countermeasure and scale it up. When
[00:04:30] they woke up, it was when 50% of the drone
[00:04:34] attacks came, 50% of them were reactive, and
[00:04:38] everyone, oh, let's quickly, quickly counter
[00:04:41] reactive drones, interceptors, so that they
[00:04:45] shoot down these cheap drones, yes, they are like that,
[00:04:48] but, but speed is not the main indicator, yes,
[00:04:52] our companies make high-speed drones,
[00:04:55] and we have them, well, and what, we need a detection
[00:04:59] system, but do we need to? finish, accumulate, accumulate
[00:05:02] hits, so, the radar field needs to
[00:05:05] be friends with the fact that they give preliminary detection and
[00:05:09] tracking of the flight trajectory. That is,
[00:05:13] none of this was prepared, why, I
[00:05:15] can answer, because the Ministry of Defense still
[00:05:19] does not have a strategic
[00:05:21] center that looks ahead, at
[00:05:24] the war for one, two, three, five
[00:05:27] years ahead, which, perhaps, is only partially involved in
[00:05:31] extinguishing fires of what exists today, but we need to look at where
[00:05:34] the world is moving, where
[00:05:38] they are moving, and counter not only
[00:05:41] by writing documents about what will happen tomorrow, but so that based on this
[00:05:45] document, the Ministry of Defense would react
[00:05:48] quickly and give a request, you
[00:05:51] companies, please,
[00:05:54] do what will counteract in a year,
[00:05:58] clarify then, because we have sincere young
[00:06:02] hearts carrying cardboard boxes for the digital Minister of Defense
[00:06:05] Fedorov, who is silent somewhere from Italy and does not say
[00:06:09] why there was no strategic...
[00:06:12] plan, we hear about regular
[00:06:15] rates of the supreme commander, where this topic
[00:06:18] is sounded, and you say that again and again
[00:06:22] there is no systemic visionary order
[00:06:26] from the Ministry of Defense, well, it somehow
[00:06:29] doesn't add up, it doesn't add up with
[00:06:33] what, well, I mean, it doesn't
[00:06:37] add up with an understanding of the threat, because if you react
[00:06:41] at such a pace, then in...
[00:06:51] This is a systemic problem since 2019, I think,
[00:06:54] somewhere, that is, before there was such a department, or
[00:06:58] a center for strategic planning,
[00:07:01] so, once, who was there, Nazarov, it seems,
[00:07:04] was there, or he headed it, or was a deputy,
[00:07:08] was a deputy chief of the General Staff, that is, once
[00:07:11] such things... existed, which were planned ahead, they were not very
[00:07:15] listened to, but they planned
[00:07:17] a strategy, what could be, they,
[00:07:21] for example, prepared, a complete strategy for countering the seizure
[00:07:24] of Crimea was prepared, and then, when Turchynov
[00:07:27] came, when Maidan happened, they did not implement
[00:07:30] what they should have, because that government did not have the balls, frankly, of steel,
[00:07:34] with which it would have been possible to defend Crimea, Crimea could have been defended,
[00:07:38] returning to us, to your question.
[00:07:41] This is a systemic problem
[00:07:43] regardless of the minister's surname, by the way,
[00:07:47] Mykhailo wanted to create such a thing,
[00:07:51] but it was still too late, it should have been done
[00:07:54] earlier within the framework of the stake,
[00:07:57] and only Mykhailo was a participant in
[00:08:00] the NSDC, and and the Minister
[00:08:03] of Digital Transformation, that is, no one dealt with the systemic
[00:08:06] problem of forecasting ahead, as I said
[00:08:09] earlier, and is not
[00:08:12] dealing with it now either, so the new
[00:08:15] minister, the new chief
[00:08:19] of the General Staff needs to pay attention to this,
[00:08:22] based on the mistakes that were made, and
[00:08:25] create people who
[00:08:28] visionarily look ahead, and not just simply
[00:08:31] look and give analytics, I repeat
[00:08:34] to high-ranking officials, after this, the high-ranking official must give
[00:08:38] a budget to finance
[00:08:41] what will work in a year and a half. Mr.
[00:08:45] Valeriy, thank you, Valeriy Borovyk, founder of the defense products manufacturing company
[00:08:49] Fast Contact and a combat veteran was with us, well, now let's
[00:08:52] talk a bit about what awaits our country with the fact
[00:08:56] that every day Russia takes the lives
[00:08:59] of Ukrainians and takes the lives of even
[00:09:03] small Ukrainians, well,
[00:09:05] those, those children who are born during the war, their number
[00:09:09] is becoming smaller and smaller. Stefan Khmil, Doctor of Medical Sciences, obstetrician,
[00:09:13] gynecologist, reproductologist and founder of the network of medical centers, Professor Stefan Khmil's Clinic,
[00:09:16] is with us on the line. Mr. Stefan, we welcome
[00:09:19] you. Good day. Mr.
[00:09:22] Stefan, there is a program for
[00:09:24] the military, about free freezing
[00:09:28] of their biological material, or, in simple words, about
[00:09:32] freezing sperm, spermatozoa, but
[00:09:35] they say that not all military personnel use this
[00:09:39] program, not all are in a hurry to do it, or not
[00:09:43] all know,
[00:09:46] how is it generally with this now, why
[00:09:50] are the military not in such a hurry to do this, and can,
[00:09:53] biological material be taken from a deceased
[00:09:57] military man, if, for example, his wife or
[00:10:00] parents want to have
[00:10:04] descendants from him later?
[00:10:07] You know, I am very pleased that you are raising such a very relevant
[00:10:11] topic, I... like the birth rate in Ukraine, especially for
[00:10:15] the military, the preservation of
[00:10:18] the biological material of our gene pool
[00:10:21] of our defenders, our
[00:10:24] heroes. Yes, today we can
[00:10:27] do this, and we are doing this within our
[00:10:31] clinics, from the first days of the war, we launched
[00:10:34] this project, free cryopreservation
[00:10:37] of spermatozoa, and also cryopreservation of egg
[00:10:41] cells in the freezer, and in
[00:10:44] 2025, a program was
[00:10:47] launched, the government adopted a resolution,
[00:10:50] allocated funds for free cryopreservation.
[00:10:55] of biological material of our servicemen who
[00:10:58] are serving, well, one cannot say that this program does not
[00:11:01] work, it really works, yes,
[00:11:04] but it is clear that we would like it to work better, this
[00:11:08] is somewhere more related to the fact that there is insufficient
[00:11:11] awareness among our servicemen,
[00:11:15] insufficient information reaches them,
[00:11:18] and also there
[00:11:22] is insufficient communication, there is no such opportunity when
[00:11:25] they are on duty, to let them go
[00:11:28] for this, but I think that this needs to be done, because
[00:11:32] the military must preserve their biological
[00:11:36] material, when they return after
[00:11:40] the war, they will be able to have children,
[00:11:42] war leads to a lot of injuries,
[00:11:46] plus stress can lead to
[00:11:49] impaired production of egg cells and
[00:11:52] spermatozoa, and also... injuries can
[00:11:56] lead to the fact that there will be no cells at all, but
[00:11:59] if, and then they can use their biological
[00:12:02] material, well, and the other side is
[00:12:06] when servicemen
[00:12:09] die, and whether it is possible to take biological
[00:12:12] material from them, yes, it is possible, there are countries where, for example, in
[00:12:16] Israel, within the first 36 hours it is allowed to take
[00:12:19] biological material, but this is one medical
[00:12:23] aspect, and the other... medical aspects, medically we
[00:12:27] can do this, but legal aspects, because
[00:12:30] fatherhood - this must be the permission of this
[00:12:34] serviceman for it to be
[00:12:37] done, that he gives this permission, all
[00:12:40] this must be formalized
[00:12:43] before he dies, and therefore
[00:12:47] there are legal aspects here, medical, please,
[00:12:50] we can do this, Professor, please tell us, when
[00:12:53] we generally...
[00:12:55] realize the demographic
[00:12:59] catastrophe, a large number of people have left, a large number
[00:13:02] are wounded, there are dead, that's right, and and this
[00:13:06] process does not strongly stimulate, especially in
[00:13:10] front-line areas, to think about fatherhood
[00:13:13] and new children, and in this case is there some model that
[00:13:17] you said, this is our program, and is there any general
[00:13:20] model that you are oriented towards and that has
[00:13:24] a positive... that's after demographic such
[00:13:28] catastrophes to restore
[00:13:31] at least the demographic picture in one or two
[00:13:34] generations. You know, we really
[00:13:38] have a demographic crisis today. I think too little attention
[00:13:42] is paid to this issue, because look, we had
[00:13:45] 52 million, more than 52 million in 1992,
[00:13:48] in 2012 there were
[00:13:52] born 514 thousand children.
[00:13:57] Last year 169 thousand, and this
[00:14:00] year even less, in half a year 73
[00:14:03] thousand children, this is a catastrophe, the fertility
[00:14:07] rate today in 2023
[00:14:10] was 0.7, today it is even
[00:14:13] lower, for a nation, we need to explain to
[00:14:16] viewers what a fertility rate is, 0.7 is
[00:14:19] a child per adult woman,
[00:14:23] that's all. Every married couple can have
[00:14:26] children, has them, and for the nation to be at this
[00:14:30] level, it needs 2.2,
[00:14:33] for it to be, for every woman to give birth to
[00:14:36] 2.2 children, so that
[00:14:39] the birth rate in the country does not decrease, we have
[00:14:42] a catastrophe, we are in last place in the
[00:14:45] world, and therefore we must do everything to revive
[00:14:48] the Ukrainian nation,
[00:14:51] mortality is 1:4, one child is born, four
[00:14:55] die, this is a catastrophe,
[00:14:58] and we must do everything so that
[00:15:01] every woman who still wants to give birth,
[00:15:05] to create all opportunities for the birth
[00:15:08] of a child, and such indicators have never
[00:15:11] existed in all the years of Ukraine's existence, even information
[00:15:15] for 300 years such a low birth rate has never existed and
[00:15:18] exists today,
[00:15:20] день,
[00:15:23] as, for example, in neighboring countries
[00:15:25] where there is no war, but there is also a birth rate crisis, yesterday I spoke with Irena
[00:15:28] Karpa, and she says: France
[00:15:31] is dying out, a birth rate crisis,
[00:15:34] neighboring Poland, they are thinking how
[00:15:38] to increase the birth rate, how are they solving
[00:15:40] these problems? The whole world is fighting for this,
[00:15:44] but France compared to us, excuse me, is
[00:15:47] in a much better situation, but let's take our Polish neighbors,
[00:15:51] let's compare, yes, they also launched a state
[00:15:54] program, infertility treatment, they
[00:15:58] allocate 6 billion to a married
[00:16:01] couple, if you convert it to hryvnia, 6
[00:16:05] billion hryvnias, if you don't convert it per year for
[00:16:09] infertility treatment, we, if I'm not mistaken,
[00:16:12] allocated 385 million, how many
[00:16:15] times less, and there everything is allowed,
[00:16:18] expansion, everything, please, no spermatozoa, please, donor,
[00:16:22] no cells, please, donor, no
[00:16:25] embryo, please, donor embryos,
[00:16:28] the program is expanded much more, and the state
[00:16:31] finances much more annual opportunities, I
[00:16:35] think that we should also...
[00:16:39] expand this program today and give
[00:16:42] Ukrainian women who wish to
[00:16:45] become pregnant, wish to give birth, all
[00:16:48] opportunities to do so,
[00:16:51] otherwise there will be degeneration of the Ukrainian nation, look at the pace
[00:16:55] at which we
[00:16:56] are dying out,
[00:17:02] Mr. Stefan, thank you for the conversation, Stefan Khmil, Doctor of Medical Sciences,
[00:17:06] obstetrician-gynecologist.
[00:17:09] Medical Centers, Professor Stefan Khmil's Clinic was with us, we talked
[00:17:12] a bit about where we are heading with our
[00:17:15] birth rate. And in this case, you and Irena, we talked yesterday
[00:17:19] about France, so the birth rate is falling, but the population
[00:17:22] is not falling, and then the question arises, how will the far-right,
[00:17:26] far-left react to the fact that there are so many migrants, and there
[00:17:29] is another side of the coin, we see how
[00:17:32] billion-strong China fought with
[00:17:36] and opposing programs, remember, that is, to limit the number
[00:17:40] of children, and now they are also racking their brains how
[00:17:43] to make sure they have more children, so that's actually what
[00:17:46] it is, there is no universal program that would
[00:17:50] work, despite the fact that billboards appear, in this area
[00:17:53] there are few children, or there are "love,
[00:17:57] Chernobryevi", it somehow does not work, these mechanisms are not launched,
[00:18:00] so dear friends, we are working in this studio
[00:18:04] until 7 pm, so stay with us, we still have topics... to talk about,
[00:18:08] in particular about children, and how this whole situation in the world
[00:18:11] affects them and why they suddenly go out to protests, or
[00:18:15] resort to some kind of massacre, or to the fact that, for example,
[00:18:19] it recently became known that a 14-year-old girl committed a triple murder, and
[00:18:22] then killed a military man, more on that later, stay with us.
[00:18:41] Alaska Statelo 10:17 sizes from 35 to 46
[00:18:45] look as elegant as possible, we see
[00:18:48] a classic anatomical toe cap around
[00:18:51] the perimeter made of eco beech and anti-vandal
[00:18:54] coating of the insert, which will hold the shoe in shape, and
[00:18:58] they are touch-sensitive, they are made of rainwear fabric, this is
[00:19:02] one of the strongest rainwear fabrics and the best for shoes, after all,
[00:19:05] it's not a jacket. You know, where we walk, shoes in
[00:19:09] which we can step in a puddle, and in slush, and walk
[00:19:12] in the snow, in general, these shoes, you see in the graphics already and the description
[00:19:16] up to -30, the sole is polyvinyl chloride,
[00:19:19] the last is barefoot, orthopedic shoes, all orthopedic
[00:19:23] requirements are met, I will definitely tell
[00:19:27] you in detail about these shoes as a qualified technologist, but
[00:19:30] the price, the price, which does not fit
[00:19:34] into any framework, because today until the end of the
[00:19:38] broadcast, winter shoes, friends,
[00:19:40] I will note, cost from 899
[00:19:44] UAH, so that you can really shoe your whole family, especially since we
[00:19:47] have sizes that will fit
[00:19:50] youth, teenagers, 35th, 36th, please,
[00:19:54] 40th, 46th, we essentially have the entire
[00:19:57] standard size range, plus this is
[00:20:00] a unisex model, it is very important to take this into account, because,
[00:20:04] for example, a woman's foot, a man's foot, they differ.
[00:20:08] A man's foot is wider, so
[00:20:11] it is larger, there is fullness, there are completely
[00:20:14] different numbers, but the unisex collection is designed
[00:20:18] specifically for wide and medium feet,
[00:20:21] plus these are full-size shoes that will not squeeze,
[00:20:24] compress, because this can be not only painful and unpleasant, but also
[00:20:28] dangerous, for girls it can turn into varicose veins,
[00:20:31] for all men foot pain, various
[00:20:35] cramps in the middle of the night, they don't just appear. They are already
[00:20:38] provoked by something, these are already the consequences of some uncomfortable
[00:20:42] moments related, among other things, to uncomfortable shoes, so
[00:20:45] comfortable shoes are also because they have a sole.
[00:20:48] and it is dense, high, you
[00:20:52] know very well that, in fact, we freeze not only from
[00:20:55] the ambient temperature, so air, but also from the ground,
[00:20:59] when the ground is frozen, and this is already January, February, especially
[00:21:02] a month, so if, for example, a rubber sole, or any
[00:21:06] other material, any, except PVC, especially a leather sole, well,
[00:21:10] definitely it's better not to go outside, unless you take a taxi, a car and
[00:21:14] drive, because the same rubber freezes, you stepped on the
[00:21:17] frosty ground for... walked for half an hour or an hour
[00:21:21] outside at -10, this sole freezes and cold comes from
[00:21:24] the sole. Here the PVC material is resistant, it
[00:21:28] actually has these, let's say, temperature-resistant properties, it
[00:21:32] will not freeze, why is PVC actively used by everyone
[00:21:36] now, because this material also does not heat up, so
[00:21:39] summer shoes are also made of PVC, this is polyvinyl chloride,
[00:21:43] yes, these are modern polymers and it does not freeze, with all its
[00:21:47] properties, this sole is quite elastic. A rubber sole, if you
[00:21:51] walked, stood in the frost at -20, it
[00:21:54] freezes, becomes like a stone, and it's better not to bend it, with
[00:21:57] a PVC sole you can safely do it, because it will not
[00:22:01] break, and I am telling you this now, as a qualified
[00:22:04] technologist of shoe production, as a person who spent four years
[00:22:08] in lectures and
[00:22:11] not only in workshops, at the technical school of light industry, sewing
[00:22:14] shoes for our military, so the inner and
[00:22:17] outer zippers, which ensures comfortable
[00:22:21] putting on, besides, these shoes are
[00:22:24] insulated twice: the first lining goes directly behind
[00:22:27] the rainwear fabric, you see, it is even stitched,
[00:22:31] here we have quilted shoes, there is a lining,
[00:22:34] synthetic winterizer goes, and then eco-fur goes,
[00:22:38] it imitates fur, thick, packed,
[00:22:41] this fur is quite high, but at the same time, keep in
[00:22:44] mind that lasts are chosen for winter shoes,
[00:22:48] because the pile takes up space. the air you actually
[00:22:51] insert your foot into, put on, and your foot needs to
[00:22:55] still move so that you can wiggle your toes, if you
[00:22:58] put on shoes and they are tight, take them off,
[00:23:01] choose a different size, but I repeat that these are full-size
[00:23:04] shoes, which will not create
[00:23:08] discomfort if you choose your size, 36 goes on 36,
[00:23:11] 37 on 37, the insole is removable, over time you can
[00:23:14] replace it, it's better to take it out, constantly process it, wash it,
[00:23:18] clean it, so we've sorted that out. Next, why this sole
[00:23:21] is also very cool PVC polyvinyl chloride in
[00:23:24] its pure form, does not freeze, does not crack,
[00:23:28] this sole, this material is resistant to
[00:23:31] chemical reagents, to aggressive environments,
[00:23:34] salt, slush, water, so
[00:23:38] call, reserve.
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[00:26:10] Now the main thing on Espreso, thank you for
[00:26:13] watching, we welcome new viewers, and welcome
[00:26:16] everyone who is already with us. For an hour, we will be working until 7 PM in
[00:26:20] this studio, we will inform you about everything that is happening in the country at
[00:26:24] this moment, and also we will summarize
[00:26:26] this difficult week, which
[00:26:30] is still ongoing and which the Russians continue to make
[00:26:33] hellish. If you open the news feed, it literally
[00:26:36] becomes somehow unbearable, painful, because
[00:26:40] the news from Nikopol, about the Russians killing an 11-year-old boy there,
[00:26:44] the news from Kharkiv about the Russians hitting a medical facility there,
[00:26:47] there are five injured and among them a rescuer,
[00:26:51] also already there is, the number
[00:26:54] of victims after the shelling of
[00:26:56] Obolon has increased, in short, the Russians
[00:27:00] continue to make our lives even
[00:27:04] more unbearable, although it would seem where else more, well,
[00:27:08] and we will summarize this difficult week, and now let's talk a little
[00:27:12] about our children, and when I say "our", I mean not only
[00:27:15] Ukrainian children, because I think that this chaos,
[00:27:19] some kind of chaos of madness, the Russians are trying to spread to
[00:27:23] children in other countries, where it is much calmer than in Ukraine, and
[00:27:26] it seemed that life should look
[00:27:29] good and quiet and cozy, but... no, the Russians
[00:27:33] are doing something incredible, this is my assumption, of course, because there is no
[00:27:36] evidence that the Russians are behind this, but nevertheless,
[00:27:39] now let's bring Olena Shershnyova,
[00:27:43] a psychologist, into our conversation, and ask her why this is happening. The latest
[00:27:47] news in Ukraine,
[00:27:49] which, which somehow
[00:27:52] makes,
[00:27:55] which, which somehow just
[00:27:58] disarms, in Rivne, a 14-year-old girl poisoned, and then...
[00:28:03] via video call with her curator, she showed how
[00:28:07] she chokes a soldier, and such reports about how Russians
[00:28:10] use our teenagers, how they use them
[00:28:14] for their own benefit, on the eve
[00:28:17] there was a similar story from the Security Service of Ukraine, when
[00:28:20] two 16-17 year old boys were detained, one had already managed
[00:28:24] to set fire to a number of cars
[00:28:27] of such trucks that work on logistics in
[00:28:30] Ukraine, the second was just about to... was supposed to continue
[00:28:34] setting fires and explosives, they were caught at that moment, and these
[00:28:38] are again teenagers, and these are again teenagers, this is what
[00:28:41] is happening in neighboring, for example, Poland, in neighboring Poland
[00:28:45] one after another news about teenagers
[00:28:48] coming to their schools where they once studied or where
[00:28:52] they study and attacking teachers and students with
[00:28:54] knives, and now there was an inspection
[00:28:58] in Poland, and after this inspection it turned out that...
[00:29:03] 76 arrests in connection with violence attacks in schools, they inspected
[00:29:07] 50,000 educational institutions, France,
[00:29:10] well, protests are also going on there now,
[00:29:14] I suggest that we go step by step, because here there are very very
[00:29:17] different, different planes, but nevertheless these are teenagers
[00:29:21] and they somehow
[00:29:23] somehow too much aggression, the psychologist is already
[00:29:27] in touch with us, good day to you, Ms.
[00:29:30] Olena.
[00:29:33] You also probably read these news, and what emotions do
[00:29:36] they evoke in you, why do teenagers get into these news,
[00:29:40] into these feeds to me, teenagers?
[00:29:43] Hello, because teenagers are the most vulnerable, probably among
[00:29:47] us, their psyche is not yet formed, their
[00:29:50] values are mostly still forming, and therefore they are
[00:29:54] an easy target for manipulation, for
[00:29:57] this propaganda, for those manipulators, for those Kremlin agents,
[00:30:00] who reach out to teenagers, gain their trust... and then,
[00:30:04] like puppets, they control them. They also reach out to
[00:30:07] adults and recruit adults, but it's harder with them,
[00:30:11] teenagers, due to their, as I said, vulnerability,
[00:30:14] become just such, well, like clay in the hands,
[00:30:18] particularly of Russian propagandists, and Ms. Olena, how does it
[00:30:21] work, for example, based on the stories we've been tracking over
[00:30:25] the week, for example, in our neighbors? That is, how do
[00:30:29] they work, do they reach out, for example, through... some kind of
[00:30:32] chatbot through some social networks and say: listen, take
[00:30:36] a knife, stab your classmate, and maybe
[00:30:40] also the principal and the teacher at the same time, right? Well, that is
[00:30:43] I understand when they recruit
[00:30:47] our teenagers through Telegram channels, and say, you're sitting
[00:30:50] without money, here's a thousand dollars, if you set fire
[00:30:54] to some electric substation or
[00:30:58] a military car, here...