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[00:00:00] the British party had a softer attitude towards the EU, Canada
[00:00:03] is obviously recovering, but the question is that there are still
[00:00:07] great chances that in some countries ultra-populists have
[00:00:10] chances, in Spain, for example, there are chances, in
[00:00:14] Poland, we see that frankly
[00:00:17] anti-Ukrainian populists, if to be honest, apart from AfD and Polish
[00:00:20] anti-populists, nowhere else is there such a
[00:00:24] degree of anti-Ukrainian sentiment, but
[00:00:27] Poles are no strangers to making fatal mistakes. so
[00:00:30] I think that yes, the threat is still there, but it is
[00:00:34] much smaller than before 2024,
[00:00:37] because yes, ratings have grown a bit since then, but the trend
[00:00:40] has changed, and Trump has greatly contributed to the change in trend,
[00:00:43] because he demonstrates what
[00:00:47] the power of really slightly crazy ultra-right
[00:00:51] is, and it is obviously ineffective and harms
[00:00:54] the state they rule, and but again,
[00:00:58] if European elites do not start solving the problems
[00:01:02] that generate such sentiments, and this is primarily wild, absolute
[00:01:05] social disappointment that has gripped Europe, which feeds
[00:01:09] the ultra-left, the ultra-right, and deindustrialization that has occurred over the last
[00:01:12] 30 years, then of course they will still have political chances, we need to
[00:01:16] treat the root causes, and they are economic, Mr. Yuriy, we
[00:01:20] just before you talked about the psychological
[00:01:23] aspects of manipulation, consciousness, involvement, and how this can
[00:01:27] affect, I will ask you from the point of view. this
[00:01:30] bet that Russia
[00:01:33] is making on the European theater of operations, because it sees, aha, here in
[00:01:37] France, it's normal and massive, after the yellow vests,
[00:01:41] young people went to destroy their native France, because these are
[00:01:44] such amazing syndromes,
[00:01:47] that is, I love myself so much in my country that I will just
[00:01:51] burn it, destroy it, break it,
[00:01:55] I saw similar syndromes, like in Iraq, Iraqis
[00:01:59] historical monuments during
[00:02:02] the war against Saddam, that is, let
[00:02:06] psychiatrists explain this, but we immediately saw how the Russians
[00:02:10] picked up these protests and how
[00:02:13] they carefully through a fairly large number of
[00:02:17] necessary, we will push in
[00:02:21] free Palestinians, we will reinforce them
[00:02:24] with our means and people, where necessary, we
[00:02:27] will bring out, for example, in Poland or in Berlin. people who will
[00:02:31] hold the most radical slogans, and then our
[00:02:35] colleagues-correspondents come up, ask questions, and it turns out that the person,
[00:02:38] except for Russian, cannot communicate, so we
[00:02:42] understand that they are working, so it is not necessarily
[00:02:45] that Russia launches these mechanisms,
[00:02:49] but now it is already flying,
[00:02:51] France is burning, now it has already gone to
[00:02:54] Brussels, now even to Austria, Vienna
[00:02:57] has spilled over, how much this... the bet
[00:03:01] of Putin's Chekists can work out with
[00:03:03] such street
[00:03:05] chaos,
[00:03:08] again, the question here is that the reasons are always more complex,
[00:03:12] there France, we can recall 1968, well, hardly
[00:03:15] remember to read about 1968, about how these massive protests
[00:03:19] took place, which then spread to neighboring
[00:03:22] countries, including Germany, in Germany it
[00:03:25] led to the formation of two wings of the left
[00:03:29] actually came to power in the social democratic party
[00:03:32] and became such a left-centrist force, and the other then
[00:03:36] created the Red Army Faction, which was
[00:03:39] probably the largest European terrorist
[00:03:42] organization, uh, on the one hand
[00:03:45] it killed former Nazis, and on the other hand, whoever they could
[00:03:48] reach, well, this is not the first time this has happened, and it must be understood that this is also
[00:03:52] a reflection of a certain social degree, and Russia always
[00:03:56] uses this very skillfully, it like any
[00:03:59] dictatorship. which is guided, including,
[00:04:01] applies the mechanism of cognitive warfare,
[00:04:05] Russia actively applies, and undoubtedly, it will
[00:04:09] fuel and ignite all possible
[00:04:12] centers of one political instability or another,
[00:04:16] both in Ukraine, taking advantage of our mistakes, and in Europe, and in America,
[00:04:20] that's why they support Trump, because he works for division, that's why they support
[00:04:23] the ultra-right, the ultra-left, and, but they will not break
[00:04:27] the European system, it is too reliable, first of all, and secondly,
[00:04:30] protests are still the
[00:04:32] norm, a democratic norm, they are just a bit destructive in France, but they were
[00:04:36] always like that there. Mr. Yuriy, thank you
[00:04:39] for your comment, for your participation in our program, Yuriy Bohdanov, political scientist
[00:04:43] and expert in strategic communications, we still have
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[00:06:27] You know, I was doing sanitary pruning of
[00:06:30] grapes and plums just the other day, and I regretted that I didn't have such a saw
[00:06:34] at hand, because I waved so much, and
[00:06:38] such a saw, such a compact one, was exactly what I
[00:06:41] needed. I will tell you that this is generally even a women's option
[00:06:45] for saws and that you will be able to manage even without some male
[00:06:49] help with such a saw, here you go,
[00:06:52] a strong cordless saw, durable,
[00:06:55] reliable, and actually capable of handling
[00:06:59] such tasks that you couldn't even imagine,
[00:07:02] so even if you want to prune an old rose
[00:07:06] bush, so that you don't have to use pruning shears
[00:07:09] or that saw, you just do it
[00:07:13] in one go, and now let's meet the cost, only from
[00:07:16] 999 UAH for a strong
[00:07:19] saw, a great saw, it's cordless,
[00:07:22] meaning you are energy-independent with all this, by the way, I was
[00:07:26] skeptical about cordless
[00:07:29] tools, now I'll tell you my story, but how foolish I was, I missed
[00:07:32] a lot, look, it always
[00:07:34] seemed to me,
[00:07:36] that a cordless, well, that's how it is in principle, an electric tool,
[00:07:40] a cordless tool, it's less powerful than, say, a gasoline tool,
[00:07:44] for example, especially a cordless one, and when I saw that there was
[00:07:47] a cordless lawnmower, my neighbor walks with such a cordless
[00:07:51] lawnmower, oh my god, I think what will she mow with that battery,
[00:07:55] how long will it last, but no, she mowed, and quite well, it
[00:07:58] was quite powerful, I thought, what
[00:08:01] is it, so, we asked, inquired, she says it's cordless,
[00:08:05] but it worked fine, well and did her
[00:08:08] job well, then I was given a cordless
[00:08:13] secateurs, on a battery,
[00:08:16] right? Oh my god, how beautiful it is, I was ready to
[00:08:20] cut everything I saw, and in principle, that's how it was, I couldn't
[00:08:23] stop, and then I see a cordless saw,
[00:08:27] oh my god, how beautiful it is, sanitary
[00:08:30] pruning of branches, this solves our most
[00:08:33] important task - sanitary pruning of
[00:08:37] trees, branches, yes, well, I wouldn't try to tackle
[00:08:40] a large trunk with such a saw. We also understand that
[00:08:44] it's not for some large trunks, but please,
[00:08:48] branches, and especially if they are soft
[00:08:52] wood species, let's also not forget that there are soft
[00:08:55] wood species, and there are hard
[00:08:59] option will definitely not work, but this option will work with
[00:09:03] plum, and with cherry, and with
[00:09:05] fruit trees, and with walnuts, in principle, this option can
[00:09:09] also work with such a saw. You
[00:09:13] just do such a nice sanitary pruning of trees, but
[00:09:16] if you have this, if you have acacia growth,
[00:09:20] for example, or cherry growth, right,
[00:09:23] you cut it with that shovel or axe, oh my god, you
[00:09:26] can also cut right into the ground with such
[00:09:30] a saw, don't worry that dirt will get in there, as it gets in,
[00:09:33] it will fly out just as easily, especially since you will still clean
[00:09:37] the chain, you will also tension it, yes, someone else lubricates
[00:09:40] chains in principle. And so this
[00:09:43] saw, I just couldn't
[00:09:46] put it down at all, I didn't let go of it literally the other day
[00:09:50] now when I had dacha days, I just wouldn't let go of it
[00:09:54] when I pruned grapes right away, I do sanitary pruning right away as
[00:09:58] soon as I harvest grapes, it's more convenient for me, and somewhere
[00:10:01] I was already struggling with these secateurs, but this saw would have saved me so much
[00:10:05] effort, so much time, this is generally a cool story,
[00:10:08] this saw and cordless tools are a very cool story because you don't
[00:10:12] need gasoline, there's also this gasoline equipment, well, that's
[00:10:15] generally terrible,
[00:10:18] then you walk around, smelling of these exhaust gases, gasoline
[00:10:22] splashed on you somewhere, then you start it, until the gasoline. some spark plugs are
[00:10:25] flooded or something, well, this is not our, not a woman's story
[00:10:29] for sure, there are electric tools, it's
[00:10:32] easier for us with them, yes
[00:10:35] with electric tools you can do whatever you want on an extension cord,
[00:10:38] yes, but these extension cords that you also
[00:10:41] press down on, especially when you have a large yard, yes, it's not
[00:10:45] enough, you need another extension cord, that's also a story,
[00:10:48] and so girls, a cordless
[00:10:51] tool, you walk with it calmly, you don't drag any cord
[00:10:55] behind you. you go any distance
[00:10:59] away from the outlet, you don't care, so you went somewhere, some people have big yards,
[00:11:02] some want to do something in the garden, maybe some cherry growth in the garden needs
[00:11:06] to be cut, this is generally an ideal story, you charge
[00:11:09] the battery and you don't know any trouble, I recommend it and I recommend it again, all
[00:11:13] technical characteristics, please, on the screen, and if you have any other
[00:11:16] questions, ask our managers, hurry up while this opportunity
[00:11:20] is still available and get it as soon as possible and you will
[00:11:23] still work with it in this area. zone,
[00:11:45] now the main thing, you are watching Espresso, Olesya Vakalyuk, Roman
[00:11:49] Chayka, we are glad that you join us, and we are glad that you
[00:11:52] have already spent two hours with us, and you will spend this hour. until 7 p.m. we
[00:11:56] work together with Roman, and in this hour
[00:11:59] we will start by talking about how
[00:12:02] we will spend the winter with or without light, when somewhere else in
[00:12:06] the country everything is normal and stable with electricity, there are
[00:12:09] cities where it is already very, very bad, and as
[00:12:13] we already spoke today with our correspondent from
[00:12:16] Kyiv, who says it's just October and October is quite
[00:12:20] warm, and there are already power outages, what to expect in winter,
[00:12:23] Volodymyr Omelchenko, director of energy programs at the Razumkov Center, we will
[00:12:27] ask him about this, he is on the line with us, Mr. Volodymyr, greetings,
[00:12:30] I also greet you, are you with light or without, do you have
[00:12:34] electricity, and I will say the same thing that our
[00:12:37] journalist said, her question was
[00:12:40] what to expect in winter, when already in
[00:12:44] October the capital has electricity interruptions, with
[00:12:47] emergency disconnections,
[00:12:50] yes, well, I am here in Sviatoshynskyi district, there
[00:12:53] was no light for a day. Then it appeared, now there is
[00:12:57] none again, why did this happen, because it does not
[00:13:00] depend on the temperature, now why does it not depend, because in
[00:13:04] principle we have solar power plants,
[00:13:08] nuclear units are working,
[00:13:10] hydroelectric power plants, the problem is somewhat different, that
[00:13:14] the enemy is trying to cut off the Kyiv region from
[00:13:17] the energy system, and the Kyiv region itself
[00:13:20] is extremely energy-deficient, because it was
[00:13:23] already energy-deficient, and they also destroyed Tez
[00:13:27] and Trypilska Tes and now they are cutting off the
[00:13:31] Kyiv energy ring along
[00:13:34] the perimeter, which connects the Kyiv
[00:13:36] region with the unified energy system, and as
[00:13:39] a result, uh, this region, like
[00:13:43] some others, because
[00:13:46] this means that the transmission of electrical energy depends
[00:13:49] on the Kyiv region
[00:13:52] and other regions. That's why they are in a state
[00:13:55] of almost total
[00:13:58] deficit, yes, that is, to assess what
[00:14:02] will happen next, the energy experts cannot, I do not have
[00:14:05] enough information, why they cannot, because in principle, the question is not
[00:14:09] whether these substations
[00:14:12] of high-voltage power lines
[00:14:15] are protected, but they really
[00:14:19] Ukrenergo did a good job in recent
[00:14:22] years and built large
[00:14:25] reinforced concrete blocks over the transformers, they
[00:14:28] are all protected, but it is impossible to protect all equipment, because
[00:14:32] it is 10 hectares of area,
[00:14:35] and the main, so to speak,
[00:14:39] reason, and why there are such disconnections, is
[00:14:42] not because of energy workers, that they prepared poorly
[00:14:46] or not, but because right now such a window
[00:14:49] of opportunity for Russia has opened up through
[00:14:52] reactive drones, that a huge...
[00:14:55] number of them reach
[00:14:58] the substations of high-voltage
[00:15:01] lines and virtually shoot them like in a shooting range, and
[00:15:05] here, you know, the energy workers can do nothing, especially
[00:15:08] they repair, yes, that is, they try, even risking
[00:15:12] their lives, here it is necessary that
[00:15:14] the leadership of our country
[00:15:18] appeal to the people, which knows all the information from
[00:15:21] the point of view of the possibilities of
[00:15:25] air defense from the point of view of Russia's ability
[00:15:27] to shell, what else to do for people, they
[00:15:31] should appeal, not an expert who does not possess
[00:15:35] all the information, because... the main problem
[00:15:38] is, this is a military component in
[00:15:41] these attacks, Mr. Volodymyr, if the enemy
[00:15:44] uses, as you say, this window of opportunity, and
[00:15:48] systematically cuts off the energy island
[00:15:51] around the capital, and from
[00:15:54] the country's leadership, military-political, we heard
[00:15:58] that a technical-military solution,
[00:16:01] particularly in terms of, for example, interceptors
[00:16:04] for those reactive...
[00:16:08] Geraniums will be somewhere by the end of autumn,
[00:16:12] then this is precisely the question that we would ask
[00:16:15] you to communicate, if it
[00:16:19] levels off, at least to the figures that
[00:16:22] our defense forces showed for
[00:16:25] those slow, as they say, mopeds, shaheds,
[00:16:29] that is, in the range of 90% interception, will this
[00:16:32] mean that our energy workers will be able,
[00:16:35] let's say, at the turn of autumn... winter,
[00:16:38] to return electricity, in particular to such cut-off energy
[00:16:42] islands, which the capital
[00:16:44] has become? Well, I think so, that most likely
[00:16:48] the situation will be better, yes, that is,
[00:16:51] but until the end of autumn
[00:16:54] people need to somehow survive until these
[00:16:57] anti- reactive drones appear,
[00:17:01] yes, that is, what will happen before that, people
[00:17:04] need to somehow... live and need to know detailed information about how our
[00:17:08] air defense process
[00:17:11] is developing, about the protection of the
[00:17:14] energy system, because unfortunately, in
[00:17:17] Kyiv we still see another very difficult problem,
[00:17:21] which is that the Kyiv City
[00:17:24] State Administration did not prepare,
[00:17:27] let's say, for all this,
[00:17:30] practically they could not even power
[00:17:34] critical infrastructure.
[00:17:37] In the fifth year of the war, yes, well, this is their
[00:17:40] responsibility, no one is responsible here, except them, except
[00:17:44] the Kyiv City State Administration, they have no one to blame,
[00:17:48] and the mayor of Kyiv, there is no one to blame here, you understand,
[00:17:51] that is, the state, the government is responsible for
[00:17:54] electricity supply, yes, and for the protection of
[00:17:58] infrastructure, but for criticism, for
[00:18:01] critical infrastructure, for its backup power, the
[00:18:05] Kyiv City State Administration
[00:18:08] is directly responsible, led by the mayor of Kyiv, it frankly
[00:18:11] failed this plan, this is another very serious
[00:18:15] problem, so it seems to me that so that it is not like
[00:18:18] in 2022, that
[00:18:21] people did not know what to do, so that the situation did not
[00:18:25] catch them unawares, people, who
[00:18:28] are ministers, I don't know, the government, should
[00:18:31] appeal to the people, explain the whole situation in detail, what
[00:18:34] they, what they should count on, honestly?
[00:18:38] Talk frankly with people, I don't see this
[00:18:41] yet, well, there were calls that people should leave and
[00:18:45] look for some alternative housing, Mr. Volodymyr, today
[00:18:49] after the Russian shelling, the metro stopped, will
[00:18:52] this now also become such a common
[00:18:56] thing that the capital's subway will stop
[00:18:59] due to power outages, because this is the main, the main
[00:19:03] transport in Kyiv,
[00:19:06] well, it is quite possible. I cannot say this for sure, because
[00:19:09] I do not have the information that
[00:19:12] is related to intelligence data on
[00:19:15] attacks on our infrastructure by Russia, their
[00:19:18] capabilities, our capabilities to shoot down,
[00:19:22] this is absolutely secret information, I do not possess it,
[00:19:25] but the situation, including with the metro, depends
[00:19:28] 90% on this information, but the fact
[00:19:31] remains, that the Kyiv
[00:19:35] City State Administration failed. its
[00:19:38] task, and they should have powered at least critical
[00:19:41] infrastructure, this was not done, so we see
[00:19:45] that the metro is not running, that there are problems with
[00:19:48] water supply and so on, so it
[00:19:51] seems to me that here there is a specific
[00:19:54] name, patronymic and surname, who is responsible for
[00:19:58] what. Mr. Volodymyr, when you spoke about
[00:20:01] the cutting off of energy deficient islands,
[00:20:05] we understand that these main
[00:20:09] power lines
[00:20:11] should actually come from our nuclear power plants,
[00:20:15] switch over, and here we have already seen
[00:20:18] many videos of how Russian drones,
[00:20:21] so-called mustachioed ones, work, and they are shown to us,
[00:20:25] that is, they are called upon to cut
[00:20:29] high-voltage power lines.
[00:20:33] How to put up protection or
[00:20:36] add air defense to power generation facilities,
[00:20:39] we somehow saw and understood this, but here you can't
[00:20:43] protect every power line, do you see any technical,
[00:20:47] technical military solution here? decision,
[00:20:51] in particular, well, now this is not the most serious,
[00:20:54] the main problem, that they have such
[00:20:58] drones and can blow up power
[00:21:01] line poles, yes, that is, well,
[00:21:05] there were indeed isolated cases this
[00:21:09] year, last year, but the most important problem is
[00:21:13] that the enemy strikes substations, the main
[00:21:17] equipment of substations, high-voltage power lines,
[00:21:20] including those substations that supply power from
[00:21:24] nuclear units, and thus we can have
[00:21:27] power, and we have additional power, that is, we
[00:21:30] do not have major problems with power
[00:21:33] now, the problem is with transmission, and
[00:21:37] it is the inability
[00:21:39] to protect
[00:21:41] these substations, since they are simply shot like in a shooting range,
[00:21:45] through this window of opportunity for Russia, which
[00:21:49] we talked about. Yes, this is the biggest
[00:21:52] problem, which can
[00:21:55] escalate into such a very
[00:21:57] serious humanitarian catastrophe,
[00:22:01] but I don't know that, I can't say for sure, I can't scare
[00:22:04] anyone or reassure anyone, because understand that now the main
[00:22:08] factor is the military factor, and we
[00:22:11] know nothing about it, well, as an energy expert, I know nothing about it,
[00:22:15] I cannot analyze the
[00:22:19] military factor, which determines
[00:22:23] 90% of the state
[00:22:24] of the energy system,
[00:22:27] induction, when it, we saw these options, electricity
[00:22:31] disappears, then water disappears
[00:22:34] or energy pumps, yes,
[00:22:36] or
[00:22:38] for too long without electricity there are base
[00:22:42] stations and even elements that are designed to maintain
[00:22:46] communication internet,
[00:22:49] but... correctly, this situation should have been foreseen, and
[00:22:53] for this there were almost 5 years for the Kyiv City
[00:22:56] Administration, electricity disappears, from the unified energy system they should have
[00:23:00] switched on backup, backup
[00:23:03] power, and immediately connected these pumps,
[00:23:06] including the metro, but the Kyiv City
[00:23:10] Administration did not do this, and in fact
[00:23:13] it was, I don't know, was it sabotage, or was it conscious or
[00:23:16] unconscious actions, but the fact is...
[00:23:20] we are faced with the fact that practically
[00:23:23] even the minimum was not done by the Kyiv
[00:23:27] city authorities. Mr. Volodymyr, what about other cities
[00:23:31] that are also shelled quite often
[00:23:34] by Russia, which of the cities can be given as
[00:23:38] an example, for example, Kyiv?
[00:23:42] Well, many, probably many cities, because
[00:23:45] perhaps such a level
[00:23:48] of neglect of people,
[00:23:52] as in Kyiv, is nowhere, yes, so I think that
[00:23:55] any place, city, it, any
[00:23:59] government in any place, it relates more
[00:24:02] responsibly to its residents, than
[00:24:05] the mayor of Kyiv and the Kyiv city administration do,
[00:24:09] well, we see this for ourselves practically,
[00:24:12] even in frontline, even in frontline areas,
[00:24:16] cities, where sometimes the situation is better than in
[00:24:19] Kyiv. just in a few words, explain, we also understand that this is
[00:24:22] from the same opera, yes, but there was
[00:24:26] a story when for a certain period in Kyiv,
[00:24:30] wastewater disposal disappeared, what people call sewerage,
[00:24:34] and then voices were heard that one must be ready
[00:24:37] to literally drain all this into
[00:24:40] the Dnipro, that's what was heard
[00:24:42] then, how dangerous is such
[00:24:46] an ecological sewerage
[00:24:50] catastrophe, this question is not for me, please, you need to
[00:24:53] contact Klychko, the
[00:24:56] administration, who, this is his
[00:24:58] task, to ensure the viability
[00:25:01] of the capital, so I am not
[00:25:04] a specialist in wastewater disposal, so
[00:25:08] other specialists are needed here, it would be better
[00:25:11] if the mayor of Kyiv and the heads
[00:25:14] of the Kyiv City Administration explained this situation, they
[00:25:18] also spoke about... yes,
[00:25:21] energy supply, thank you, Mr. Volodymyr, for the explanation,
[00:25:24] we wish you that the light returns to you, a day without
[00:25:28] electricity, Volodymyr Omelchenko, director of energy programs at the Razumkov
[00:25:31] Center, was with us, and now let's talk
[00:25:34] a little about our military and about what
[00:25:38] they say that they are treated as
[00:25:41] redundant, over 50% of veterans said that
[00:25:44] the state does not protect their rights, this was voiced by our
[00:25:48] ombudsman Mr. Lubinets, Yevhen Fylypets,
[00:25:51] military lawyer, is with us on the line,
[00:25:54] we will talk about why the military has such feelings.
[00:25:58] Mr. Yevhen, welcome. Good
[00:26:01] evening. Listen, more than 50% of veterans -
[00:26:05] that's a lot, well, the ombudsman voiced it, I think that he has
[00:26:09] some kind of operation, some research, there is some
[00:26:11] survey,
[00:26:14] I think that the ombudsman opened the incoming complaint registration journal and
[00:26:18] saw everything very well, the office calculated the figure for him, in which
[00:26:21] it is clearly defined how many people applied with a
[00:26:24] complaint not regarding mobilization, already specifically
[00:26:28] servicemen, although they have their own ombudsman, by the way,
[00:26:32] and... and family members of servicemen who
[00:26:35] either fight, or who, unfortunately, died, or are missing, because
[00:26:38] as a practicing lawyer I constantly encounter this
[00:26:41] block, because the social block is very
[00:26:45] large today, I already said in our previous broadcast, we all
[00:26:49] constantly comment on mobilization, but TCC is called broader,
[00:26:52] TCC and SP, so about this SP part, about
[00:26:56] this, about this direction of the work of the military enlistment office, this is a very
[00:27:00] important point, because there are many many nuances
[00:27:03] and people have now found
[00:27:07] an opportunity to contact the authorized person, his tools are also limited in his
[00:27:10] hands, he contacts the relevant body to
[00:27:14] deal with it and they give some formal replies, usually
[00:27:17] in accordance with there in the best case, in
[00:27:21] the worst case, they can just tell the person to go to court,
[00:27:24] this is a very common refusal,
[00:27:27] which they say, and we go to court, win cases, prove
[00:27:31] this to...
[00:27:34] That's how social support works today. Lubinets
[00:27:37] says that most often defenders and families of the deceased complain about problems with receiving
[00:27:41] financial aid, certificates, and also about obstacles in undergoing medical and psychological
[00:27:44] rehabilitation. So in your practice, what are
[00:27:48] the biggest and most common complaints
[00:27:50] of the military?
[00:27:52] Well, actually, here we need to figure out that each sectoral
[00:27:56] complaint is actually divided by target audience. If we are talking
[00:27:59] about servicemen, then this is of course everything that...
[00:28:02] concerns the Military Medical Commission, that is, people want to properly undergo
[00:28:06] a medical examination and what concerns payments, by the way, even recently
[00:28:09] people contacted me, I was surprised, the guy there actually almost
[00:28:13] falls under the category of hero of Ukraine, wounded
[00:28:17] and does not receive payments for the period of treatment and rehabilitation, this is a very common
[00:28:20] story, when they demand a passed Military Medical Commission, when he himself cannot
[00:28:24] initiate it and payments are stopped, that is,
[00:28:28] the issue of payments from military units - this is a very important issue,
[00:28:31] and... the second issue, regarding family members, here the important
[00:28:35] point after death is this path
[00:28:38] of documents, for what people apply for legal
[00:28:41] assistance, because everything is very simple, documents move very slowly,
[00:28:45] documents can get lost along the way, there are
[00:28:48] problems with documents, despite the fact that we have declared
[00:28:51] digitalization, like
[00:28:55] the absence of paper in the army, that is, it is an army plus and other
[00:28:58] moments that should do all this automatically, but it works in paper form,
[00:29:02] so there are
[00:29:05] there are also other issues that are also very actively
[00:29:09] considered, imagine a situation where
[00:29:12] massively, massively alcohol is found in the blood
[00:29:15] of a serviceman, cases are won in courts,
[00:29:18] alcohol is not an obstacle to payments to the family, families are not
[00:29:21] notified, for example, about certain funds on the account, just
[00:29:25] recently people from Lviv region from a small village
[00:29:28] contacted me, they say that a man went missing,
[00:29:33] the family cannot receive payments, there is such a specificity
[00:29:36] of the case, but on the account of this man there are still 2 million UAH
[00:29:40] in the military unit, but it is the task of the military enlistment office to notify, to make
[00:29:43] a request, to find out if funds have accumulated on his account or
[00:29:46] not, and this was not even done and purely by chance, we are talking like this,
[00:29:50] and for that family 2 million UAH is colossal huge funds, because
[00:29:54] that person who went missing died, she
[00:29:57] supported this family, so all these detailed, scrupulous moments should
[00:30:01] be worked out automatically, but it, unfortunately, begins to become systemic,
[00:30:05] and is there any tendency to correct it, we
[00:30:09] have already spoken many times with
[00:30:12] practicing legal people who point out these
[00:30:16] points, where, where formally they did not play, the date does not
[00:30:20] not coincide, they made changes, and it now applies
[00:30:24] to all cases that happened after the changes were made,
[00:30:27] but not to those same ones that were just
[00:30:31] a week before. That is, do you now see a tendency that after
[00:30:35] our conversations like today with you, after this
[00:30:38] someone is trying to correct something?
[00:30:42] In fact, all this is corrected at a later stage, because there is
[00:30:46] the concept of judicial practice, and when you constantly
[00:30:49] practice, you already understand in principle what the approximate court
[00:30:53] decision will be in such a case, because judicial practice is already being formed, for example,
[00:30:56] I mentioned alcohol today, it is clear that...