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[00:01:15] you know, we very often talk about what should be in a first aid kit, we talk about
[00:01:19] that it should contain certain drugs
[00:01:22] that can relieve pain, and relieve an allergic reaction,
[00:01:26] but again, a thermometer is mandatory, maybe even...
[00:01:30] a CO2 meter, but another very important element
[00:01:33] is mentioned, an integral part, this is a tonometer, in order to
[00:01:36] measure blood pressure and understand what the pressure is,
[00:01:40] what the pulse is, so that very often people after a certain
[00:01:43] age, they constantly start the day with
[00:01:47] measuring, and yes, your own pressure,
[00:01:51] the tonometer looks like this, let's slowly
[00:01:54] take it, I'll take it in my hand, I'll show you, it's like a
[00:01:57] pulse meter, and the main thing is on the screen... it will immediately be
[00:02:01] displayed for you, immediately you will see the pressure,
[00:02:04] yes, the lower and upper readings and the pulse, well, and
[00:02:07] that's it, yes, oh, it's already, you see, starting
[00:02:11] to work, it's already waiting for me to put it on
[00:02:14] myself, yes, wonderful, how much will
[00:02:17] such a tonometer cost, tell me, please, from
[00:02:20] 499 UAH, excellent tonometer, listen,
[00:02:23] works flawlessly, perfectly, and I will
[00:02:26] tell you, indeed, this is one of the best options that one should consider. Just
[00:02:30] imagine, yes, well, let's see,
[00:02:33] let's figure it out, and in general, I will
[00:02:37] tell you that this tonometer is very light, compact
[00:02:40] to the maximum, so, it has a pressure
[00:02:43] control function, this is it, you see, put it on your hand,
[00:02:47] press the button, everything will be immediately visible, yes
[00:02:50] on our tonometer, put it
[00:02:54] with the screen facing the inner
[00:02:56] side of your hand, slightly...
[00:03:00] lower, yes, lower than I put it on, and
[00:03:03] press the button, in principle, nothing new, yes, nothing
[00:03:07] complicated is done, but you press the button immediately
[00:03:11] and it starts measuring, yes, and it works
[00:03:15] 100%, it's very easy to store, very
[00:03:18] simple, actually, I will tell you that it will
[00:03:21] immediately take all the measurements you need, and it immediately
[00:03:24] starts, let's say so,
[00:03:27] measuring pressure. That is, you don't have to
[00:03:31] do anything, you don't have to open it, you know, as very often happens with tonometers, that
[00:03:34] you have to open it, you have to wrap it around your hand,
[00:03:38] like these larger tonometers used to have to be wrapped around your hand
[00:03:42] and so on, but here in this case you don't have to
[00:03:46] do anything like that, you just put it on your hand, fastened it, you
[00:03:48] looked, it immediately starts taking measurements and it gives
[00:03:51] you the result, it needs a little time to think, you
[00:03:55] hold it in the correct hand position. And it
[00:03:58] immediately gives you the correct result,
[00:04:02] shows whether the pressure is high or
[00:04:05] low, well, and specifically which one, so it
[00:04:09] seems to me that this is a very convenient thing, which is
[00:04:12] so, that's it, I did it, I
[00:04:16] did it, I measured it, you see, how wonderfully it works,
[00:04:20] then it pronounces, it then pronounces these
[00:04:24] numbers, well, I don't
[00:04:27] know if it will be visible or not, but it...
[00:04:30] shows, you see, it immediately, it shows
[00:04:33] the readings,
[00:04:34] yes,
[00:04:37] that's great, I really like it, listen, it even repeated everything to me
[00:04:41] in English that is written here,
[00:04:45] great, I am very pleased, and
[00:04:48] first, it's very simple, second, it's very
[00:04:51] fast, and it measured
[00:04:55] the pressure, yes, I can show you, what is written,
[00:04:59] I think it will be... visible, I hold my hand like this so that it doesn't, let's
[00:05:02] see what is written on it, or no, what
[00:05:05] readings, yes, well, look, it measured
[00:05:09] for me, so, 124 over 72,
[00:05:16] well, everything is there, yes, and it also measures the pulse, of course, well, it's understandable, I'm active,
[00:05:20] so it can't be lower, but it's
[00:05:23] understandable and that's it, I just put it on my hand, pressed
[00:05:27] one button, actually start and nothing
[00:05:30] else, and it measured and gave me
[00:05:33] the result, what pressure and how it should be, you understand,
[00:05:37] very easy, very fast, I like that we
[00:05:40] have such an offer now, and... I want to tell
[00:05:43] you the following, that today this is
[00:05:47] indeed the best option that should
[00:05:50] always be at hand, that is, you should take it
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[00:07:32] Well, literally, I don't know, a few, probably minutes ago
[00:07:35] information appeared on CBS, it seems that CBS
[00:07:39] News was the first to report it, an American channel.
[00:07:43] President Trump stated that
[00:07:46] Ukraine needs a new president, this news
[00:07:49] is now spreading like wildfire
[00:07:52] all over the world, well, and this is
[00:07:56] truly, how to
[00:07:59] comment on this, well, I told you that we are on an airplane in a period
[00:08:02] of turbulence, Trump replied, you said, well, and he
[00:08:06] will continue to fool around, well, just wait, November
[00:08:10] 4, 2026. This person will suffer a
[00:08:13] shameful defeat, we will find ourselves in a new political era, and then she will, until
[00:08:17] that time, she will try to
[00:08:21] save herself, I understand this perfectly,
[00:08:25] after everything he has done in these year and a half, he has no way out, well,
[00:08:28] look, why does he talk like that, first, he
[00:08:32] really demanded from Zelensky that Zelensky stop striking
[00:08:35] oil refineries, he is still saying that Zelensky can do whatever
[00:08:39] he wants, just let him not hit Russian oil
[00:08:42] refining, and what should we hit? Kindergartens, well, I think that Trump would prefer that, it's about
[00:08:46] money, well, we can hit Valdbez,
[00:08:49] marketplaces, military factories, just not oil, not
[00:08:52] diesel, so that he could pretend to Americans that he
[00:08:56] is solving the diesel issue, first,
[00:08:59] second, he can
[00:09:02] promise this to Putin, then, how does he look? He looks
[00:09:06] like a weakling, this is what Putin asked him for, so that
[00:09:09] on May 9, they would not hit Moscow,
[00:09:13] and he fulfilled it, because he is a strong person, he told
[00:09:16] Zelensky, Zelensky did it, what is there, he controls
[00:09:20] Zelensky, Putin controls, I don't know, there who, Lukashenko, everyone
[00:09:23] has their own puppets, ugh, and if it
[00:09:27] turns out that Zelensky is not a puppet of Trump, how can Trump live, how can he
[00:09:30] sleep, how can he look Putin
[00:09:33] in the eye,
[00:09:35] well, no way, it means he feels like a person over whom
[00:09:39] Zelensky deliberately mocks him.
[00:09:43] He makes him look like a weakling in front of the whole
[00:09:46] world,
[00:09:50] well, and I think he really wants us not to hit Russian oil refining, because
[00:09:54] look, if we hit Russian oil refining, we
[00:09:57] reduce the share price of Lukoil, well,
[00:10:00] besides all that, yes, they are now just
[00:10:03] accomplices, Trump, Vidhov, Kushner, they
[00:10:06] are accomplices, of this, Putin from the point
[00:10:10] of view of the complex. car processing, they are Russian
[00:10:14] oligarchs, and these are people who want to become
[00:10:17] Russian oligarchs, to be new
[00:10:20] oligarchs,
[00:10:23] well, and why, and this is actually.
[00:10:26] Trump tells Zelensky not to touch, this is mine, why are you shooting at
[00:10:29] mine, this at my car? Uh-huh, I
[00:10:33] tell you, don't touch my car, I will buy it tomorrow, it is standing there in the
[00:10:37] salon, don't touch this salon, my car is there, shoot
[00:10:41] wherever you want, a kindergarten, there is no car of mine there, here you are,
[00:10:45] and you are directly shooting,
[00:10:48] Zelensky tells him, okay, I will not shoot, and you achieve that they do not shoot
[00:10:51] at our energy systems, but the wind cannot do that anymore.
[00:10:56] Because it's necessary to convince Putin, and Putin doesn't have the guts
[00:10:59] for that, he can only control Zelensky from his point of view,
[00:11:03] and Putin is an equal player, what can he tell him? He has nothing
[00:11:06] against Putin, and these
[00:11:10] arguments.
[00:11:15] That's the whole story, and that's why he starts saying: give me another Zelensky, another Zelensky
[00:11:19] will do what I say.
[00:11:21] Well, Zaluzhnyi said something similar earlier, just. it never sounded
[00:11:25] so straightforward and so
[00:11:28] simple, I don't even know how to correctly choose the word, not diplomatic, well,
[00:11:32] listen, Trump and diplomacy are completely opposite things, first of all, you don't need to
[00:11:35] consider that all this is so serious, tomorrow there will be a new
[00:11:38] statement, ugh, all this will start
[00:11:41] changing,
[00:11:44] Europeans will protest there, he will see the reaction, he will start
[00:11:47] playing it back, but it repeats, in the coming
[00:11:51] weeks this person can do whatever he wants, not only in
[00:11:54] our. direction, in any,
[00:11:58] he just cannot understand, this person, what to do to increase
[00:12:02] his rating,
[00:12:03] what?
[00:12:07] By the way, about ratings,
[00:12:10] for President Zelensky, Zelensky, by the way, remains one of
[00:12:14] the most popular politicians, he has one of the highest
[00:12:17] levels of trust, he, however, is still,
[00:12:21] it seems, in third place in terms of trust.
[00:12:26] This was measured recently, in first
[00:12:28] place are Zaluzhny and Budanov, Budanov, by the way, has fallen quite significantly,
[00:12:32] it's very interesting that very sharply and
[00:12:35] suddenly, and it's difficult to explain, Fedorov's rating
[00:12:39] fell, why it's difficult to explain Fedorov's, because in this situation,
[00:12:42] he was a person with whom certain expectations of a specific
[00:12:45] nature were associated, and these expectations were
[00:12:49] related to the fact that people considered the turning point in the war to be
[00:12:53] precisely the strikes on Russian oil refineries, on
[00:12:57] Russia as such, because they believed that these strikes would lead to
[00:13:00] some kind of turning point, and I, by the way, what I said then,
[00:13:04] no, they won't, it just, the war changed its nature, we hit
[00:13:08] Russia, they hit us, and not that they hit in one direction, but
[00:13:12] this will not lead to a turning point, and people did not
[00:13:15] want to understand this and believed that this was it, this was
[00:13:18] the end, Fedorov
[00:13:21] is gone, perhaps they believe that he made
[00:13:25] certain mistakes when he did not agree to become
[00:13:28] an advisor to the Minister of Defense of Ukraine, and instead became
[00:13:32] an advisor to the Minister of Defense of Italy, all this has already been forgotten, he is no longer there, in
[00:13:35] the public space he is practically non-existent,
[00:13:39] and it
[00:13:41] turned out that all these hopes that strikes on Russia would lead to
[00:13:45] a turning point, they
[00:13:48] are not so realistic, and you understand that if Zelensky had removed
[00:13:52] Fedorov from the post of Minister of Defense today... no,
[00:13:55] mhm, there would be no cardboard protests in support of Fedorov,
[00:13:59] everyone would say, perhaps, another Minister of Defense is needed, who
[00:14:02] will more effectively protect
[00:14:05] the Ukrainian sky, because those strikes on Russia are good, but
[00:14:09] something is wrong, Kyiv is under such attacks, and where was the Ministry
[00:14:12] of Defense, and where is our ballistics, Fedorov, what will happen, and where is our ballistics,
[00:14:16] absolutely precisely, if Zelensky needed to politically destroy
[00:14:19] Fedorov, then he simply
[00:14:20] rushed,
[00:14:24] that's all. So I don't see, I don't see
[00:14:28] anything unexpected in Fedorov's rating fall, I don't
[00:14:31] see anything unexpected in Budanov's rating fall, because Budanov again
[00:14:35] got into a story
[00:14:36] with
[00:14:41] various unpleasant things, mildly speaking, of a corrupt nature in the office
[00:14:44] of the President of Ukraine, he is also associated with these things, that is, no longer just
[00:14:48] with the war, but with office
[00:14:51] management, and I see nothing strange that...
[00:14:55] General Zaluzhny's rating, because Zaluzhny
[00:14:59] after his resignation does not participate
[00:15:02] in Ukrainian internal processes, the myth
[00:15:05] about him as a person who was able to protect the country during
[00:15:08] the most difficult period
[00:15:11] remains,
[00:15:13] no corruption abuses have been noticed by him, because he is simply not
[00:15:17] here, that is, there is no negativity towards him,
[00:15:21] and the myth lives on, well,
[00:15:23] and he appears in public space only with
[00:15:26] conceptual texts, he
[00:15:29] chose for himself such an role, if you want,
[00:15:31] such a mentor and
[00:15:34] military prophet, on Facebook he often... can post
[00:15:38] a photo with his wife, which collects a million likes, well, a photo with his wife
[00:15:41] is just a photo with his wife, it's, well, you understand, I mean, he's not
[00:15:45] a person who gives ratings, expresses opinions on some current
[00:15:49] topics, he expresses opinions on global topics,
[00:15:52] ugh, and he is present as a myth, as a god from
[00:15:55] the machine, perhaps in a situation where there is no real
[00:15:59] political process, this is the most, I would say, advantageous position, and
[00:16:02] Zelensky has a rating because he is the president of a warring country, someone stops
[00:16:06] trusting him, but...
[00:16:10] because he is the President of Ukraine, so all this, I just see the logic in
[00:16:14] these ratings. By the way,
[00:16:17] about this peace party, we talked about it
[00:16:20] last week, and last
[00:16:22] week, when Oleksiy Honcharenko
[00:16:26] was still in the faction of European Solidarity, we discussed
[00:16:30] why they took so long to make this
[00:16:32] decision, now he is no longer in this faction.
[00:16:35] And, but, but I just tried to
[00:16:38] count how many people theoretically in the Verkhovna
[00:16:41] Rada could sign Oleksiy Honcharenko's
[00:16:45] so-called peace plan, I counted that there were no less
[00:16:48] than a hundred, literally no less than a hundred, and we constantly say
[00:16:52] that Oleksiy Honcharenko, what a horror, how could you have such a
[00:16:56] deputy in your faction, Poroshenko, I think that the whole story with Oleksiy Honcharenko
[00:17:00] is exclusively because he was in Eurosolidarity, if he, if he had presented his
[00:17:03] empty plan from some other parliamentary group, no one would have even
[00:17:07] noticed, because you understand that the main disadvantage of this
[00:17:11] plan is exclusively that it is not because we cannot
[00:17:14] implement it, but because the Russians are not
[00:17:18] going to implement it, this is
[00:17:21] the problem, that we
[00:17:23] are not
[00:17:26] discussing plans, because there is Trump's plan of 28
[00:17:29] points, there is Honcharenko's plan, there were numerous plans
[00:17:32] of Zelensky, ugh, but
[00:17:35] the essence of the situation is that I, for example, claim and try to
[00:17:38] verify this,
[00:17:41] that Russia does not want to negotiate with Ukraine and will not
[00:17:45] do so, well, and by the way, Rubio says this, Ba says this,
[00:17:49] German Foreign Minister Waideful, who met with Lavrov, says that Russia does not seek
[00:17:52] any negotiations, and people who come up with these
[00:17:56] plans say, we need to talk to Russia, well, we need to, but
[00:17:59] if she doesn't want to talk to you, well, so,
[00:18:02] but this is a matter of religion, they
[00:18:05] believe that Russia
[00:18:08] will be ready to talk if they promise her
[00:20:54] of war, well, they are at least logical, because there is a party of war, there are people who
[00:20:58] say, we don't want any negotiations with Ukraine, we will
[00:21:02] talk to Ukraine only after it withdraws troops from Donbas, maybe we will talk
[00:21:05] to it,
[00:21:08] and this has been going on for 4.5 years,
[00:21:11] denazification,
[00:21:14] what else is there, well, army reduction, refusal,
[00:21:18] neutral status, and so on and so forth. The root cause
[00:21:20] of the war, well, but the root cause of the war is
[00:21:24] ultimately, as you said, it's actually,
[00:21:28] the desire of Ukrainians not to live in Russia and be Russians, well, that's
[00:21:32] right, and the desire of Russians for Ukrainians to be
[00:21:34] Russians, that's all, these are different, I just want to
[00:21:38] understand how to agree, well, how
[00:21:41] to agree on these principles,
[00:21:45] about what to agree, well, I think this is a practical,
[00:21:48] actually, I think... This is a consequence
[00:21:52] of understanding what the root causes are, because we always say that
[00:21:56] the root causes that Putin talks about are just some
[00:22:00] kind of figure of speech, conditionally speaking, with which
[00:22:04] they justify their murders, but in
[00:22:06] fact, we could take this more seriously and say,
[00:22:10] at least, that we could maximally stop
[00:22:12] being those who can be called, I don't
[00:22:16] know, a fraternal nation. a Russian nation and so on, so
[00:22:20] at least, well, here is Rhodes and we can jump
[00:22:24] right now and, for example, at least carry out all the reforms,
[00:22:28] start carrying out all the reforms, right now during the war there is a window
[00:22:32] of opportunities, that is, it would already be a good signal for Putin that
[00:22:35] Ukraine is changing so much,
[00:22:38] that perhaps there is no
[00:22:40] longer any sense in fighting for
[00:22:43] it so much, they will think over time, for example, or at least they
[00:22:47] said it aloud, that perhaps Stalin made a mistake
[00:22:51] by annexing Western Ukraine, he failed to digest it. Yes, I read
[00:22:55] a lot about Stalin's megalomania, what it all led to.
[00:22:58] If, if we show that Ukraine is so different from
[00:23:02] Russia, that it cannot be digested, then we need to kill all
[00:23:05] the population here to occupy the territory without population, I will tell you the logic. But the question is
[00:23:09] that this is a much more difficult task, and it gives fewer bonuses, well, he
[00:23:13] is doing this right now, why? He is actually carrying it out, what he is doing now
[00:23:17] is exactly that. Strikes on Kyiv. This is an attempt
[00:23:20] to deprive Kyiv of its population, and strikes on
[00:23:24] Kharkiv are an attempt to deprive Kharkiv of its population, how many people
[00:23:28] are left in Kharkiv now from the wartime population? I actually, by the way, don't
[00:23:31] know the exact figure, whether Kharkiv is still in second place,
[00:23:35] I don't think so, well, that is, we don't know this to the end,
[00:23:38] but the idea is this, if you are right, you want
[00:23:42] to prove to him that the entire population is disloyal, because
[00:23:44] before the war
[00:23:48] he thought that he would capture this country. well, with a loyal population,
[00:23:52] half of the population voted for Yanukovych, for this whole
[00:23:55] campaign, so there will be a wonderful population, and he will not capture Western Ukraine,
[00:23:59] he will give it to Poland, well, and Crimea, by the way, turned out to be
[00:24:02] loyal after the annexation, to be honest, if we don't consider how
[00:24:05] loyal, it turned out to be subjugated, yes,
[00:24:08] of course, there was no partisan movement, open sabotage of something, and
[00:24:12] it didn't start, no, of course, there were
[00:24:15] people who opposed it, they were simply imprisoned and so on and so forth, that's
[00:24:18] true. But this was not the way, no one
[00:24:22] bombed Crimea before, how do you think loyal Crimea would have been if they had
[00:24:26] bombed it for two years, destroyed half of Sevastopol,
[00:24:29] Simferopol, Yalta, people would have treated Russia
[00:24:32] differently, of course, well, and Crimea is still a special region, we
[00:24:36] also understand that, it has always differed in all polls and
[00:24:39] from all perspectives, the essence is not in this, it's just that Crimea also has fewer people now than it did
[00:24:43] before the occupation, ugh, the essence is in something else, that conclusions have been drawn,
[00:24:47] that the entire population is disloyal.
[00:24:50] In the center and in the west more, in the east and in the south
[00:24:53] maybe less, but the very fact that these people have been living
[00:24:57] in war for many years, their relatives are fighting in the army, how can they
[00:25:00] be considered loyal, that is, in principle, he is not, this is not the
[00:25:04] idea that everyone will flow out of here, well, a large number will leave before
[00:25:07] the occupation, and then there will be occupation and
[00:25:10] filtration, those who remain, the fewer remain, the
[00:25:13] easier it is to resettle to those territories, which is basically what is happening
[00:25:17] in Mariupol, and happened after 1945, by the way,
[00:25:20] mass resettlement from Russia, well, Putin's
[00:25:23] advisor said that Ukraine has always been saved by resettling its own population, for example, in
[00:25:27] Lviv, a third of the population, even now, are somehow
[00:25:30] descendants of those who came in 1945 and after
[00:25:34] 1945 they could have come not from Russia, but from Soviet Ukraine, this is a different
[00:25:38] situation, yes of course, but the essence is not in this, the essence is in
[00:25:41] that these are planned actions, I am absolutely sure that he needs territory without
[00:25:45] population,
[00:25:47] and by the way, so that you understand, that they will now
[00:25:50] act like that, they are simply not communists, communists believed that
[00:25:54] they could intimidate some population, expel some, leave some for
[00:25:57] display, if they capture Latvia now, there will be no more...
[00:26:01] In Estonia there will be no Estonians, they will
[00:26:04] simply drive them out on national grounds, because these are
[00:26:07] chauvinists,
[00:26:09] I can ask this question again,
[00:26:14] which has been asked a million times, but again,
[00:26:18] again, okay, is that enough
[00:26:21] land for you? No, I think this is an incorrect way of
[00:26:25] posing the question, the question is not that there is little land, the question is where this land
[00:26:28] is located, if Russia wants to
[00:26:31] be... a European player, and it
[00:26:34] perceives what a Russian European player is, it's not that
[00:26:37] they compete with Fiat,
[00:26:41] uh-huh, with
[00:26:42] Airbus,
[00:26:45] with, I don't know, with her
[00:26:49] German banks and Swiss, with
[00:26:52] French wineries, they are afraid,
[00:26:56] uh-huh, they want to rule Europe
[00:26:59] with fear, the less from...
[00:27:17] and France is not that far, that is, the closer Russia
[00:27:20] will be to Europe, the greater its role as a gendarme, if you
[00:27:24] talk about trading with fear, and not with some scientific and technical
[00:27:27] achievements,
[00:27:30] thus, without Ukraine, Russia is not... a European
[00:27:33] empire, it is precisely the possession of Ukrainian lands,
[00:27:36] precisely lands, objectively, but Stalin accidentally crossed
[00:27:40] the Carpathians and annexed Transcarpathian Oblast
[00:27:43] to the Ukrainian SSR, and he accidentally there,
[00:27:47] specifically annexing this former Subcarpathian Rus,
[00:27:50] exchanged part of its territory for the territory
[00:27:53] of Slovakia with Chop, Chop is not Subcarpathian Rus, it is simply
[00:27:57] Slovakia itself, he annexed it to Transcarpathian Oblast, because
[00:28:00] he needed a nodal railway. this one, and for what? and
[00:28:04] for troops,
[00:28:07] well, and then this Chop was used in 1968, when there was a Prague Spring, it's
[00:28:10] all not accidental.
[00:28:13] Well, and thus objective reality says that
[00:28:17] if you want to build an empire that will be a player in
[00:28:20] Europe, and if you believe that without this role your
[00:28:24] country will slide to third position, it will not
[00:28:28] be considered a superpower, here Ilham Aliyev, the president of
[00:28:31] Azerbaijan, says, there are two... superpowers, we have partners with them, there is no third,
[00:28:34] and Putin needs there to be a third,
[00:28:38] uh-huh, without Ukraine Russia cannot be such a player,
[00:28:41] this is objective reality, GDP at the level of
[00:28:44] Texas, they want to
[00:28:48] compensate for all this with territory, by the way, Carlson in this
[00:28:52] interview with the Brit, the British lord, he
[00:28:56] said that America has
[00:28:58] a bigger, Russia has a bigger GDP than Great Britain.
[00:29:02] and he immediately interrupted him saying no, it has half the GDP. For
[00:29:06] Carlson it was a revelation. It seems
[00:29:09] so. Yes, but, that is
[00:29:12] Russia, Russia
[00:29:15] is overestimated in