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[00:00:00] he did it in Austria and how Ruslan Kravchenko is trying to save
[00:00:04] himself and get political asylum and how this case will help
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[00:06:44] Hello everyone, friends, this is about the main results, and in this
[00:06:47] part we will talk about the sensational case, about how a Ukrainian
[00:06:51] investigative journalist, who works for the publication Ukrainska Pravda,
[00:06:55] Mykhailo Tkach, was detained in Vienna, and
[00:06:58] suspected of spying there. So,
[00:07:02] Mykhailo Tkach and his operator, Yaroslav
[00:07:05] Bondarenko, went to Vienna to make a report
[00:07:08] about how the Ukrainian fugitive, former Prosecutor General
[00:07:12] of Ukraine, Ruslan Kravchenko, had settled
[00:07:15] there. Ruslan Kravchenko's escape
[00:07:19] is a story worth a separate episode.
[00:07:22] Let me remind you that for a whole week Volodymyr Zelenskyy essentially
[00:07:26] did not take any drastic steps to ensure that
[00:07:29] Ruslan Kravchenko could be held accountable
[00:07:33] for all the things that were happening in
[00:07:37] the Ukrainian Prosecutor General's Office, and what was happening there, I will remind you,
[00:07:41] the Prosecutor General's Office became such a
[00:07:45] den where
[00:07:48] entire top leaders
[00:07:52] of the Prosecutor General's Office and people who were responsible for
[00:07:56] international cooperation, supervised fraudulent call centers, and these
[00:07:59] fraudulent call centers, not only robbed Ukrainian
[00:08:02] citizens, they already decided to expand the horizon of their
[00:08:06] activities, they started robbing
[00:08:08] Europeans, and not knowing
[00:08:12] the witness case, if at the beginning of
[00:08:15] summer Western diplomats had not already started
[00:08:18] pressuring the Ukrainian authorities and asking them to somehow
[00:08:21] deal with these fraudulent call centers, because
[00:08:25] there were already stories when these fraudulent call centers called
[00:08:29] the relatives of those diplomats who work in
[00:08:32] Ukraine,
[00:08:34] but look, it's obvious that Ruslan Kravchenko knew a lot,
[00:08:37] and in order for Ruslan Kravchenko not to
[00:08:41] go to an interview where he would say
[00:08:44] too much, they decided to save him and give
[00:08:47] him opportunities for retreat, and
[00:08:50] I will also remind you, they made sure that this person received a full September
[00:08:54] salary with surcharges, payments,
[00:08:57] that is, so that he had almost 10 thousand dollars
[00:09:01] for that, so that there was the first budget, as they say, for a very
[00:09:05] expensive European capital like Vienna, and so
[00:09:09] Mykhailo Tkach said that... with
[00:09:13] the operator they went because
[00:09:16] they had such an editorial task, to find in
[00:09:19] Vienna this former Prosecutor General, a fugitive,
[00:09:23] who also registered in Vienna at a fake address, and
[00:09:26] thus show how he lives there
[00:09:30] in the Austrian capital,
[00:09:33] but when they were performing this task, then
[00:09:37] they were met
[00:09:39] by armed people, then it became... clear that these
[00:09:43] were people who were Austrian special forces,
[00:09:47] there was an interesting comment by the Minister of Internal Affairs of Austria, who
[00:09:51] confirmed that yes, they caught Ukrainian
[00:09:54] journalists, and
[00:09:57] then there was a quarrel,
[00:10:01] there was a demand to sign a document in German,
[00:10:05] and there were photos where
[00:10:07] the operator of the Ukrainska Pravda publication received
[00:10:10] some kicks and scratches,
[00:10:14] the story is very and very, you know, nasty, because I
[00:10:17] completely share the opinion of many Ukrainians who even wrote
[00:10:21] on Twitter about what kind of European
[00:10:24] country this is, like fraudulent call centers were already
[00:10:27] robbing European pensioners
[00:10:30] at full capacity, and now how is it that
[00:10:33] Austria, Vienna protects
[00:10:37] these corrupt officials, and look what an interesting story
[00:10:41] happened, I completely share the opinions from
[00:10:44] Ukrainian trends, that how did it happen, the European
[00:10:48] Union itself, a number of European countries, including
[00:10:51] very important ones, like Great Britain, Bitkel.
[00:10:55] and asked the Ukrainian government to somehow stop these fraudulent call centers,
[00:10:59] which had already completely
[00:11:01] blown the roof off, which had already started robbing everything that was alive
[00:11:05] there, moving and had a bank account, and Austria
[00:11:08] covers those people under whose leadership
[00:11:11] exactly this
[00:11:14] insane fraudulent
[00:11:17] scheme happened, when
[00:11:20] in fact billions were earned, and then
[00:11:23] legalized through... through such fools as this
[00:11:27] muse,
[00:11:29] who made herself a kind of private entrepreneur, who
[00:11:32] offered her prosecutor to use the private entrepreneur of her
[00:11:36] mother, her sister and her son-in-law and thus pump
[00:11:39] millions and millions of money that Ukrainian
[00:11:43] prosecutors received through these
[00:11:45] schemes,
[00:11:48] because Tkach said that they gave him
[00:11:52] this document to sign, and it is like an analogue of
[00:11:55] a suspicion, that there were three articles: first:
[00:11:59] espionage for the benefit of Ukrainian military intelligence, that is, they essentially
[00:12:02] accused Mykhailo Tkach, I understand, of working in the interests of
[00:12:05] Hurmo, second - participation in a criminal organization,
[00:12:09] interesting in which one, third,
[00:12:13] this is causing damage to Austria, well, and similar
[00:12:16] accusations were brought against Yaroslav
[00:12:18] Bondarenko,
[00:12:21] moreover, Tkach says that we actually worked in Vienna
[00:12:25] many times, always in public places, accordingly, we worked with regard to public
[00:12:28] people, information about whom is of
[00:12:31] public interest, and therefore to hear such a wording was a shock
[00:12:35] for me. But, look, here
[00:12:39] it is worth saying that information appeared that Ruslan
[00:12:43] Kravchenko, after settling in Vienna,
[00:12:46] he lives there not just as a civilian, he also
[00:12:49] managed to get protection and
[00:12:52] security from the city's Ministry
[00:12:56] of Internal Affairs, and I now guarantee that Ruslan
[00:12:59] Kravchenko will use
[00:13:02] this attempt by Ukrainian journalists to explain where
[00:13:06] exactly the former Ukrainian top official is,
[00:13:09] as pressure on him, that he is a victim of Zelenskyy's
[00:13:12] political regime, and thus Ruslan Kravchenko will further
[00:13:15] activate the process of Austria granting him political
[00:13:18] asylum. That is, we are talking about an absolutely cynical and
[00:13:22] unprincipled person who is ready literally... for anything to
[00:13:26] get this political asylum and pretend
[00:13:29] that he has nothing to do with anything, and
[00:13:32] generally he doesn't know those Ukrainians, and Ukraine is a foreign
[00:13:36] state to him. And you know, what a shock, because when
[00:13:39] you analyze, you understand that Ruslan Kravchenko, for a long time,
[00:13:43] was indeed Volodymyr
[00:13:45] Zelenskyy's favorite. It was during Zelenskyy's era that he had
[00:13:49] a huge career rise, because this
[00:13:52] person headed the Prosecutor General's Office before...
[00:13:55] Во before that, by the way, was a very
[00:13:59] important prosecutor who collected all
[00:14:03] these testimonies about the war
[00:14:06] crimes of the Russian Federation and the Russian
[00:14:09] occupation army in the city of Bucha,
[00:14:13] this city that became simply a symbol of what Russian
[00:14:16] occupation is at the beginning of the full-scale invasion. And how can we
[00:14:20] prove that Russia really committed war crimes
[00:14:23] against us, that Russia... this is evil, if
[00:14:26] the prosecutor who collected these evidences, who just
[00:14:30] had everything during Zelenskyy's era, whose official salary was
[00:14:34] excellent, which many Ukrainians would dream
[00:14:37] of, how he now openly works against his
[00:14:40] state, and again, how all these
[00:14:43] Ukrainian top corrupt officials are afraid of publicity, afraid
[00:14:47] of Ukrainian media, which might not have filmed something
[00:14:51] so phenomenal, because if you look at...
[00:14:55] Well, the plots of Mykhailo
[00:14:58] Tkach are quite simple.
[00:15:01] It's filming how you drive on the road, how you
[00:15:05] follow someone, a couple of facts, a couple
[00:15:08] of documents. And maybe
[00:15:11] somewhere, Yaroslav Bondarenko, the operator, well,
[00:15:15] was lucky enough to film how somewhere into some building
[00:15:18] enters either Ruslan Kravchenko himself, or his pampered
[00:15:22] wife, but... Ukrainian
[00:15:25] top corrupt officials are afraid of this publicity, where
[00:15:29] they live, and obviously the revenge of Ukrainian
[00:15:32] citizens, of whom there are now many in Europe, including
[00:15:36] citizens who live in Vienna, and they do not
[00:15:39] live luxuriously, like these top corrupt officials.
[00:15:42] Therefore, this is an extremely unpleasant story about how
[00:15:45] Ukrainian top corrupt officials are trying to
[00:15:48] escape from justice, trying to
[00:15:51] escape from due punishment, and also
[00:15:55] portraying Ukrainian journalists as spies and
[00:15:58] criminals, who allegedly take
[00:16:01] part in a criminal organization, and it is interesting whether this story
[00:16:04] will continue and whether it will not become... a life hack for
[00:16:08] other top corrupt officials, who will be very
[00:16:11] worried that they might accidentally stumble upon
[00:16:15] an interview with Mykhailo Tkach, an interview that
[00:16:19] they openly do not
[00:16:20] want to give, because
[00:16:23] for such people it is better to dig in somewhere,
[00:16:27] then get political
[00:16:30] asylum, and then at a convenient moment, perhaps, pump out these
[00:16:33] conciliatory stories, such
[00:16:36] politicians also not... who crawled out and now work
[00:16:40] as doves of peace, but precisely on the side of the Russian
[00:16:43] Federation, because at the moment when the Russian Federation
[00:16:47] felt that everything was fine with them, when at the Valdai
[00:16:51] forum, which took place in the Moscow region, because
[00:16:54] Putin is very afraid of Ukrainian
[00:16:55] drones, when the Russian
[00:16:59] occupation army is confident that it will squeeze Ukrainians into
[00:17:03] capitulation with all this urbicide and constant...
[00:17:09] terror of the civilian population,
[00:17:12] at this moment doves of peace emerge,
[00:17:16] and these doves of peace are completely different. There are such freaks
[00:17:19] as Potap and Nastya, who talked about how they got
[00:17:23] a cyst because
[00:17:26] for half a year Nastya spoke Ukrainian in
[00:17:29] everyday life, and there are also completely
[00:17:33] harmless characters, such as Danylo Hetmantsev, this is a person
[00:17:36] who is responsible for tax and customs policy in
[00:17:39] the country, but this person
[00:17:42] appeared, gathered
[00:17:46] quotes from one sociological
[00:17:49] study and said that we need to make peace with
[00:17:52] Russia, and here, you know, it is very important to raise archives, because
[00:17:56] the same Danylo Hetmantsev on February 22,
[00:17:59] 2022, what did he do? He said
[00:18:03] that we should not give money to the Ukrainian army and that, well,
[00:18:07] you
[00:18:09] know, well, this is
[00:18:12] what European
[00:18:15] Solidarity proposes, by the way, their proposal was to give
[00:18:18] 50 billion to the Ukrainian army, that this is pure
[00:18:21] populism, and why? Because obviously, such politicians already
[00:18:24] expected when their beloved Russia would come, and they
[00:18:28] would finally be able to wait for their Russian friends and
[00:18:31] perfectly chill with these Russian friends in occupied
[00:18:35] Ukraine, and believe me, this was already such a personnel reserve
[00:18:39] of the Russian Federation, which was prepared to receive
[00:18:43] those or other top positions in occupied
[00:18:45] Ukraine. Another dove of peace - Ihor
[00:18:49] Terekhov, this is the mayor of the city of Kharkiv, this is also a person who
[00:18:52] at the beginning of the full-scale invasion went to Kharkiv residents and
[00:18:56] convinced them that, well, endure, maybe it will be possible
[00:19:00] to agree diplomatically. And now
[00:19:03] this person openly opposes Valeriy
[00:19:05] Zaluzhnyi, who can be clearly and
[00:19:09] openly called one of the main visionaries of defense
[00:19:13] policy, Valeriy Zaluzhnyi clearly convinces
[00:19:17] that we need to completely reformat our
[00:19:20] defense and our civilian life, taking into account that these
[00:19:24] neighbors, such as the Russian Federation and Belarus, will not disappear,
[00:19:27] and even an enclave like Transnistria, it will continue to
[00:19:30] exist. Therefore, we need to completely
[00:19:33] adapt to the fact that evil is around us.
[00:19:37] And how to live with this evil, we need to be ready
[00:19:40] and armed, but Ihor Terekhov
[00:19:44] is already obviously aimed at some elections,
[00:19:47] although when these elections will be, it is not known for sure, what elections
[00:19:51] they hope for, and decided to flirt with
[00:19:54] that audience who wants simple
[00:19:56] solutions, and these simple
[00:19:59] solutions, they are such that there is some
[00:20:03] party of war, and we are not a party of war, and in general
[00:20:06] we need... and in general we need to relax,
[00:20:10] it's interesting, at what point the mayor of Kharkiv plans to relax,
[00:20:14] given that the city of Kharkiv is already a front-line city, and this
[00:20:18] is also a very important target for the Russian occupation army, because
[00:20:21] to take the city of Kharkiv, the Russian occupation army planned in
[00:20:24] 2014, and also the Russian
[00:20:28] occupation army wants to take the city of Kharkiv, but
[00:20:31] already now, because their goal is
[00:20:35] to turn one of the main Ukrainian centers
[00:20:39] of the left bank, into something terrible, like
[00:20:43] God forbid, what is called Donetsk and
[00:20:47] Luhansk, and such characters as Ihor Terekhov. in this
[00:20:50] is true evil, because you lull the attention
[00:20:54] of Kharkiv residents, you tell them that peace will come soon, but
[00:20:57] here it is worth saying that Kharkiv will never live in
[00:21:01] such a regime as before 2014, when it was possible
[00:21:04] to hang out with Russians, go for cheap groceries
[00:21:07] back and forth, and think that Russians are brothers. Now
[00:21:11] these brothers just want to destroy the city of Kharkiv, and such
[00:21:14] characters as Ihor Terekhov only help them in this
[00:21:17] confidence that Kharkiv will be ours.
[00:21:20] Why? Because I remind you that not long before the full-scale invasion
[00:21:24] Ihor Terekhov did what? He made
[00:21:27] proposals that the Russian language should be regional, because
[00:21:31] the Russian language is very much needed in Kharkiv, it turns out.
[00:21:35] And such politicians, they are like chameleons,
[00:21:39] they can pretend to be patriots for a short time,
[00:21:43] but when such a moment arises that Russia may soon
[00:21:46] pressure Ukrainians into capitulation, they will definitely... show
[00:21:50] their true colors and such speeches,
[00:21:53] such opposition to Valeriy Zaluzhnyi, once again
[00:21:57] emphasizes who Ihor Terekhov is, and when
[00:22:00] we talk about these peaceful doves, I cannot help but
[00:22:04] mention another character, namely Oleksiy Honcharenko, already
[00:22:07] a former deputy of European Solidarity, who was
[00:22:11] a prominent deputy, it is worth emphasizing here that Oleksiy
[00:22:15] Honcharenko is a talented Ukrainian politician, who knows how
[00:22:18] to play with... populism, who knows how to play
[00:22:21] very well in the media, who boosted his YouTube channel
[00:22:25] to 1.5 million subscribers, and
[00:22:28] who very skillfully uses even
[00:22:32] such meager parliamentary opportunities that exist in
[00:22:35] the current convocation, for example, what is his
[00:22:39] TSK worth, which is more known as Honcharenko's TSK, it has
[00:22:43] a long name, there's defense and all that, because
[00:22:47] it has become such a platform for personal... PR
[00:22:51] of the solo politician Oleksiy Honcharenko, because there, how they
[00:22:54] hype on the topic of TCC and civilians, civilians and
[00:22:57] TCC, and also interesting
[00:23:01] things can be found, like, for example, a complete analysis of
[00:23:03] the interview, and
[00:23:07] the speech of Denys Shtilerman, where he said a lot of
[00:23:10] cringe, and then went to whitewashing interviews,
[00:23:14] or when Herman Halushchenko was invited, or
[00:23:17] when Zhumadilov came, and there we heard... details of how
[00:23:21] Timur Mindich influenced Ukrainian energy, and
[00:23:25] before that, also Ukrainian defense, for example, how he wanted
[00:23:28] to sell dubious Israeli
[00:23:32] bulletproof vests to the Ukrainian army,
[00:23:35] but Oleksiy Honcharenko also decided to come out with
[00:23:39] peaceful such initiatives, well,
[00:23:41] which are
[00:23:44] absolutely unsuccessful and which are absolutely infantile, for
[00:23:47] example, in one of the... series of posts there was such a quote,
[00:23:51] that Ukraine should stop this with Russia, mutually
[00:23:55] washing Ukrainian schools and kindergartens, and this
[00:23:59] is blatant nonsense, because it was the Ukrainian side that did not hit
[00:24:03] Russian kindergartens and schools, there was no such thing in nature, but
[00:24:06] the Russian side hits whatever it can reach,
[00:24:09] or when there were such proposals about historical
[00:24:13] figures, that something needed to be smoothed over, that there was
[00:24:16] manipulation on the monument to the unknown soldier. about the Russian
[00:24:20] language again there was manipulation, and this
[00:24:24] very clearly shows that this politician
[00:24:27] is looking for his audience and is also trying
[00:24:31] to find his niche, to ride the same niche that very much wants simple
[00:24:35] solutions with Russia, and peace at any cost, and this is about
[00:24:38] 7-10% of Ukrainians.
[00:24:41] But, look, all these peace plans, they are breaking, they have already
[00:24:44] broken, because the US Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, came out
[00:24:48] and said that at this stage all these
[00:24:52] negotiations are impossible, and why? Because
[00:24:55] Putin does not want to make peace, Russia does not want to
[00:24:58] make peace. Russia is confident that it will strangle Ukraine into
[00:25:01] capitulation. Also the Russian Federation is confident
[00:25:05] that it will be able to
[00:25:08] deceive and continue to deceive Donald
[00:25:11] Trump and gradually
[00:25:14] achieve the lifting of sanctions, and thus there is no need to stop
[00:25:18] the war against Ukraine. And how to collect
[00:25:22] money for a new escalation, including in
[00:25:25] Ukraine and for new acts of war
[00:25:28] already against NATO and EU states, but already in Eastern
[00:25:31] Europe, for example, in the Baltics,
[00:25:34] so this is also a story about how
[00:25:37] these doves of peace flew out, but
[00:25:40] look, in their beaks there are not
[00:25:44] myrtle branches, but branches of some
[00:25:47] crap, and all these peace plans. proposals
[00:25:50] did not last even a week, because they completely
[00:25:53] crashed against the harsh reality, where the Russian
[00:25:57] Federation is not going to stop the war, everything suits them, and
[00:26:01] they further want to... press us with urbicide and
[00:26:04] genocide, so there will be no morality, as they say, think
[00:26:08] for yourselves and openly analyze
[00:26:10] all these peaceful doves, always check if they had any Russian
[00:26:14] relatives or connections with pro-Russian parties, because this is, now
[00:26:17] тому що це завжди дуже гарний
[00:26:21] маркер, хто ж такий цей голубок мир. всім дякую за увагу,
[00:26:24] about the main thing, Maryna Danyliuk Rymlayeva,
[00:26:28] stay with us.
[00:26:42] war, rockets for patriots in the world
[00:26:46] exist, strikes on
[00:26:48] Russia,
[00:26:51] dialogue between the government and
[00:26:53] society,
[00:27:01] support for Ukraine. Behind every loud
[00:27:04] event stands the main question, what's next on weekdays
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