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[00:00:00] how to fill out a project application, how to draw up
[00:00:03] an estimate, what documents should be submitted
[00:00:07] at the time of submission, that is,
[00:00:11] the entire application package, what
[00:00:14] it should be, and accordingly, we
[00:00:17] answer their questions at the end, that is, in
[00:00:21] a question and answer format, we are already working with them
[00:00:24] further. Do you have statistics on what veterans mostly
[00:00:27] want to do, for which grants? What kind of
[00:00:31] own business is this, what projects do they
[00:00:34] submit for this grant?
[00:00:37] Well, the main directions, the most
[00:00:40] popular ones
[00:00:43] among our grant recipients can be identified as
[00:00:46] agriculture, manufacturing entrepreneurship,
[00:00:49] food industry and restaurant business,
[00:00:53] trade and service sector. These are the main
[00:00:56] five areas where
[00:00:59] usually the largest number
[00:01:02] of applications for grants come in, but
[00:01:05] you know, in one's own business, there is actually huge competition,
[00:01:09] and it no longer matters whether you are a veteran or
[00:01:12] not, and you also help with
[00:01:15] employment, in particular, in your fund there is such an
[00:01:19] interesting program, I would say, a veteran's career, and in it,
[00:01:22] as far as I understand, veterans leave their job
[00:01:25] applications and their conditions, and
[00:01:28] they can actually include their combat experience, and the system itself
[00:01:32] will generate a resume for this civilian experience. How active and
[00:01:35] popular has such a program become among
[00:01:38] veterans?
[00:01:41] Yes, indeed, we have an online platform called "Veteran's Career", it was created
[00:01:44] specifically to facilitate
[00:01:48] for employers
[00:01:50] to specifically obtain a workforce
[00:01:54] in the form of veterans, as we know
[00:01:57] that now the labor market
[00:02:00] is a bit difficult with this, and accordingly,
[00:02:03] veterans do not get
[00:02:06] lost among,
[00:02:09] so to speak, the general mass
[00:02:13] of people looking for work, like, for example, on
[00:02:16] work.ua or rabota.ua, that is, it is exclusively a service for
[00:02:20] veterans, where they
[00:02:23] look for work, and where
[00:02:26] an employer can find only a veteran.
[00:02:30] Today, we already have more than 100, more
[00:02:34] than 150,000 vacancies from almost
[00:02:36] 1500 from 1,500
[00:02:40] employers, and also more than
[00:02:43] 300 registered, verified
[00:02:46] veterans who are looking for work.
[00:02:49] So, I know that there is a problem that veterans
[00:02:52] cannot go to work because
[00:02:56] of low salaries in this, because we all
[00:02:59] understand combat experience worked at
[00:03:03] zero, he received a salary of 100 thousand
[00:03:06] and plus, here employers offer a salary
[00:03:09] of 30-40 thousand, and maybe
[00:03:12] even less. How much does this platform of yours
[00:03:16] provide an opportunity to solve this
[00:03:19] problem?
[00:03:23] Well, I wouldn't say that it directly
[00:03:26] helps to solve this particular issue.
[00:03:30] It's more about employment, about
[00:03:34] self-employment. We all understand that
[00:03:37] no one can exist without money, in principle. So, it's
[00:03:41] more about employment, about a person's employment,
[00:03:45] that is, and it's important
[00:03:47] to understand that for successful integration,
[00:03:51] a job is also needed. This is one of the
[00:03:55] key factors in
[00:03:57] successful
[00:03:59] re-integration of a veteran
[00:04:02] into civilian
[00:04:05] society, for his successful
[00:04:08] return. He gets
[00:04:10] employed, he works with, he
[00:04:14] works in a team with civilians, or with
[00:04:18] fellow soldiers, or a mix,
[00:04:22] let's say, and
[00:04:25] here the employment process itself is important,
[00:04:28] well, and... and accordingly, the
[00:04:31] problem of exactly what
[00:04:35] you are talking about, salary. Well,
[00:04:38] we cannot influence that, so
[00:04:42] it's already a more economic
[00:04:45] component, which, well,
[00:04:49] in principle, it's a whole set of measures that
[00:04:53] should solve this issue. How many
[00:04:57] employers are willing to agree to these conditions? Which
[00:05:00] veterans write in your program,
[00:05:03] how actively do employers join you? Employers
[00:05:07] also join, because, again, we return to the topic of
[00:05:11] staff shortage. and
[00:05:14] uh, now a lion's
[00:05:16] share of society either
[00:05:20] serves or undergoes treatment after injury,
[00:05:23] right, or undergoes
[00:05:26] some certain process of re-integration, therefore,
[00:05:30] here somehow
[00:05:32] like this,
[00:05:35] actually, in the program description there is a point that employers should
[00:05:38] provide decent working conditions for a veteran. So, what should
[00:05:42] entrepreneurs be ready for when offering a job to a veteran? Should there be
[00:05:46] some special conditions, I don't know, maybe there should be some specific
[00:05:50] environment, what kind of attitude should
[00:05:53] there be? Well, first of all, we must
[00:05:57] treat a veteran with
[00:05:59] respect, well, this is rule number
[00:06:02] one. In principle, we need to prepare
[00:06:06] teams, we need to prepare our
[00:06:09] Asharmen, injuries and...
[00:06:12] severe severe injuries
[00:06:16] and health problems, so
[00:06:19] you need to be ready to adapt
[00:06:23] the workplace itself and
[00:06:27] accordingly, first of all, it is the adaptation
[00:06:30] of the team to the fact that
[00:06:33] in your team
[00:06:37] veterans will work or will
[00:06:40] work, you need to... break these
[00:06:44] stereotypes that
[00:06:47] society has about veterans being
[00:06:50] like this or that. Accordingly,
[00:06:54] we need to move away from these stereotypes.
[00:06:57] Veterans are also people,
[00:07:00] well, we are all people, and we want
[00:07:04] normal human relations
[00:07:07] for ourselves. Accordingly, and
[00:07:10] well, but first of all, it must be respect, respect for the
[00:07:14] experience that
[00:07:17] the veteran gained during military service
[00:07:20] and accordingly, the performance,
[00:07:23] and the performance of tasks on the line of combat. Mr.
[00:07:27] Oleg, thank you, I would like to remind you that we
[00:07:30] discussed the opportunities for employment of veterans with the hero of Ukraine,
[00:07:34] the head of the Ukrainian Veteran's Fund, Oleg
[00:07:37] Olyva. Thank you for being with us, that you
[00:07:41] care about the problems that exist in society today. Support each
[00:07:45] other, see you soon.
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[00:15:00] Greetings! American President Donald
[00:15:03] Trump on Friday, October 9, announced
[00:15:06] that he had a phone conversation with Russian
[00:15:10] dictator Vladimir Putin. Following
[00:15:12] this conversation, Russia will supply diesel to world
[00:15:16] markets, including the United States. This has already
[00:15:19] caused a sharp internal American
[00:15:22] scandal, which is discussed not
[00:15:26] but even by his supporters from the Republican Party.
[00:15:30] This week, Ukraine delivered two powerful strikes on
[00:15:33] Yandex data centers, as a result of which
[00:15:36] internet speed slowed down in Central Russia, including
[00:15:40] in the capital Moscow. We will talk about all this, as well as other
[00:15:44] hot topics of the week, with our guest today,
[00:15:47] public figure, advisor to the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine
[00:15:51] from 2014-2021, Zoryan
[00:15:54] Shkiryak. Greetings, Mr. Zoryan.
[00:15:58] Good day, glory to Ukraine. Glory to heroes. So,
[00:16:02] let's start with the hottest news. On Friday,
[00:16:05] October 9, Donald Trump, following a conversation with Vladimir
[00:16:09] Putin, announced that Russia would supply diesel,
[00:16:12] including to the American market. It also became known
[00:16:16] that the Ukrainian negotiating team, which arrived in the United
[00:16:20] States the day before,
[00:16:22] would be returning to Ukraine, and President Volodymyr Zelensky made
[00:16:26] a rather sharp statement, criticizing
[00:16:29] the relevant decisions of the American administration.
[00:16:32] Why did this scandalous incident
[00:16:35] happen exactly now, it seems to me, more than obvious,
[00:16:38] but what guided the American administration in making
[00:16:42] such an ambiguous decision?
[00:16:45] Well, you know, I think that for
[00:16:49] those people who are aware of what is happening
[00:16:53] in the United States of America in general,
[00:16:57] this blatant, well,
[00:17:00] cynical betrayal of Ukraine, and not only the betrayal of Ukraine,
[00:17:04] but the betrayal of practically the entire civilized
[00:17:07] world, because it is also a betrayal of allies, and first
[00:17:11] of all, the European Union, the betrayal
[00:17:13] of NATO, well, it probably did not become such
[00:17:17] a sensation,
[00:17:20] an extraordinary one, because from Donald Trump over
[00:17:23] the last two years we could
[00:17:26] expect anything, and yes, of course, this
[00:17:30] shameful agreement, and actually, this
[00:17:33] decision, which in its essence will absolutely
[00:17:37] not affect the price
[00:17:40] of diesel fuel and world markets
[00:17:43] in general, since the volumes that
[00:17:46] are offered, well, they cannot
[00:17:48] play any role.
[00:17:51] Well, America remains, nevertheless,
[00:17:54] a key ally of Ukraine, a country that
[00:17:58] continues to support Ukraine in its fight against
[00:18:01] Russia. Obviously, this decision was made by the administration, first
[00:18:05] of all, in the interests of American... well, I
[00:18:08] will refrain from any evaluations here, you have the
[00:18:11] right to them, of course, but this week in
[00:18:14] the Ukrainian capital, one of the significant events
[00:18:18] without exaggeration took place for the first time in eight years. The NATO
[00:18:21] Military Committee gathered in Kyiv, representatives of all 32 countries,
[00:18:25] including the United States, arrived to meet with
[00:18:28] the Ukrainian political and military
[00:18:31] leadership. This meeting primarily concerned
[00:18:35] not only increasing awareness of the allies
[00:18:38] regarding the current state of affairs, including the successful operation in Donbas
[00:18:42] conducted by the third army corps under the command of Brigadier General Andriy
[00:18:46] Biletsky, but also the fact that NATO now needs Ukraine
[00:18:49] even more than Ukraine needs
[00:18:52] NATO. The current situation at
[00:18:55] the front and the support of allies, do they give
[00:18:59] you reason for optimism in the near future?
[00:19:03] Absolutely, and I believe that this is
[00:19:07] a reason for optimism for all
[00:19:10] of us, because those, without
[00:19:13] exaggeration, powerful successes and powerful strikes that the
[00:19:17] Ukrainian army is delivering today, as you already
[00:19:19] mentioned, in particular the third army corps
[00:19:22] led by Brigadier General Biletsky,
[00:19:26] are a significant, let's say,
[00:19:29] significant reason to have this
[00:19:32] optimism. Moreover, I know for sure that these
[00:19:36] successes continue.
[00:19:38] and in particular on the Lyman direction, and now also on the
[00:19:41] Dobropil direction, and our
[00:19:45] defense forces are gradually
[00:19:48] liberating and returning those positions that
[00:19:51] were previously captured by the enemy,
[00:19:55] and this is a good marker, you know, for
[00:19:58] our European partners and for
[00:20:02] NATO countries, to show that Russia
[00:20:05] can
[00:20:08] be fought and can be fought quite successfully. I am convinced that
[00:20:11] in the near future we will learn about new
[00:20:14] achievements of both the third army corps and
[00:20:18] other units of the defense forces
[00:20:21] of Ukraine, since, as you know, everything that
[00:20:25] our military tells us
[00:20:29] usually gives information that, well,
[00:20:33] in its essence, is outdated due to the conduct of certain
[00:20:37] successful military special operations,
[00:20:40] so I think that we are waiting for news of the fourth
[00:20:44] season of Operation Vivaldi, and I think that others
[00:20:47] will follow.
[00:20:50] and important successes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in these
[00:20:53] directions, it is these successes of the Ukrainian
[00:20:57] army, it is the successes on the front, it is the successes on
[00:21:00] the line of combat
[00:21:03] engagement
[00:21:05] that forced, actually caused hysteria in the Kremlin, and they
[00:21:09] resort to
[00:21:11] this
[00:21:14] horrific, bloody terror that they have been perpetrating
[00:21:16] throughout, actually throughout all four
[00:21:20] and a half years, but in particular the last
[00:21:23] few months, thus
[00:21:25] inflicting all these strikes on civilian
[00:21:29] infrastructure, on residential areas,
[00:21:32] killing dozens and hundreds of innocent
[00:21:36] Ukrainian citizens, including
[00:21:39] Ukrainian children. Just this week, two demonstrative
[00:21:42] actions took place, two more war crimes: a missile
[00:21:46] strike on a residential building in the city of Pryluky, where, as of
[00:21:50] now, 33 deaths are reported, including five
[00:21:53] children. A strike on Kramatorsk, where more than 30
[00:21:57] died and dozens were wounded as a result of an
[00:22:00] air bomb hit, and The Telegraph newspaper reports
[00:22:04] that General Surovikin, also known by the nickname
[00:22:08] General Armageddon, is returning, returning
[00:22:11] by the will of Putin with the aim
[00:22:15] of destroying bridges across the Dnieper. What does
[00:22:18] this indicate? this current
[00:22:22] new harsh wave of attacks on civilian
[00:22:25] infrastructure and what does the Russian
[00:22:28] dictator seek? He seeks only one thing:
[00:22:32] to force the civilian population
[00:22:35] to panic, to force
[00:22:38] to cause despair in people,
[00:22:42] undoubtedly, to try to maximally
[00:22:45] create impossible
[00:22:48] conditions for... That is, to destroy
[00:22:52] energy, to destroy water supply,
[00:22:55] to destroy, to try to destroy bridges
[00:22:59] from the left to the right bank. Well, I don't think they will
[00:23:01] succeed, because actually, if we speak, you know,
[00:23:05] in such a factual language, then
[00:23:09] to destroy any Kyiv bridge,
[00:23:12] which, which were built back taking into account
[00:23:16] the possibility of a nuclear strike and nuclear war,
[00:23:20] then they were built using technologies that, well,
[00:23:23] today it is impossible to destroy them with drones,
[00:23:27] even reactive ones, it's just impossible. And
[00:23:30] to hit there with any missile, well,
[00:23:33] you know, I don't think that today
[00:23:36] Putin has
[00:23:40] such high-precision missiles that could deliver a precise strike on
[00:23:43] bridges, so it's rather a wave
[00:23:46] of informational terror, intimidation,
[00:23:50] undoubtedly, they will try
[00:23:52] to do it. As for Surovikin,
[00:23:56] well, you know, I don't
[00:24:00] know how confirmed this information is or not
[00:24:03] confirmed, because he was actually removed, since
[00:24:06] he practically took part
[00:24:10] in this mutiny of
[00:24:12] Prigozhin in 2023, well, if it's
[00:24:16] confirmed, yes, in 2024, in 2023, 2023, yes.
[00:24:21] So, but, if it's really so, well, that only
[00:24:25] means that the bench
[00:24:28] of reserves in the Russian
[00:24:32] general staff has become too, too
[00:24:34] short, meaning there is no one left to fight, if
[00:24:37] they bring back such
[00:24:41] odious personalities, and
[00:24:43] frankly, I cannot understand
[00:24:47] what role Surovikin can
[00:24:50] play specifically in the destruction of bridges or other
[00:24:54] infrastructure, since this is already being attempted
[00:24:58] for 4.5 years,
[00:25:01] so, well, it looks a bit chaotic to me,
[00:25:04] but if it is so, I repeat, if they bring him
[00:25:07] back, then it will mean that they are
[00:25:11] doing very badly with the command, and
[00:25:15] for us it makes absolutely
[00:25:17] no difference. Uh, well, that is,
[00:25:21] for us it makes no difference whether it's Surovikin,
[00:25:24] whether it's Gerasimov, whether it's some other scum and
[00:25:28] another Russian terrorist-murderer,
[00:25:31] we, we, we have our own work to do. This
[00:25:34] week, Ukraine continued its campaign of attacks on
[00:25:37] Russian oil refineries, in addition,
[00:25:41] two strikes were made on Yandex data centers.
[00:25:44] Russian media report slowdowns or
[00:25:47] outages of the internet in major cities.
[00:25:51] This applies not only to Yandex services, but also
[00:25:54] to other providers.
[00:25:57] How vulnerable do you think Russia is in
[00:26:00] this regard, how prepared is it for plan B, if they
[00:26:04] experience problems with other companies, and
[00:26:07] in general, what goal can the defense forces pursue
[00:26:10] in this case? The defense
[00:26:14] forces pursue an absolutely
[00:26:17] clear goal, the destruction of the enemy's capabilities,
[00:26:21] including geolocation and so on, so the strikes on data centers are
[00:26:25] actually a very good and successful
[00:26:28] special operation, and you see, today, especially in
[00:26:31] the central European part
[00:26:34] of Russia, the Internet has slowed down,
[00:26:38] we see a whole bunch of videos being
[00:26:40] distributed by
[00:26:44] residents regarding the failures that are
[00:26:47] happening there, and I believe that it is
[00:26:50] vulnerable, because their law prohibits moving these
[00:26:54] hostings, for example, abroad and so on, that is, they
[00:26:58] must be only on the territory
[00:27:01] of Russia, and... undoubtedly, such
[00:27:04] strikes will contribute to the defense forces and
[00:27:07] will contribute and are quite a sufficient and
[00:27:10] worthy response to the strikes, including those on
[00:27:14] Ukrainian data centers, which were carried out by
[00:27:18] Russian terrorist
[00:27:21] troops. I think that these are not the last strikes, there are still a few such
[00:27:25] data centers
[00:27:28] in that part of
[00:27:31] Europe
[00:27:33] that continue to work, but I think that the defense forces will
[00:27:37] definitely get to them
[00:27:39] soon, so I am convinced that these
[00:27:43] strikes are effective, and these strikes
[00:27:47] are very painful for the aggressor
[00:27:50] country, we saw how much they
[00:27:53] will be able to find a way out then from this situation,
[00:27:57] this is already question number two, but for this
[00:28:00] it will definitely take... enough time. Mr. Zoryn,
[00:28:04] we have seen a decrease in the number of hits by Russian
[00:28:07] jet Geranium
[00:28:10] five drones. Recently, the same
[00:28:13] applies to Russian cruise ballistic missiles, which are increasingly
[00:28:17] reaching their targets. Something happened,
[00:28:20] why has the Russians' effectiveness statistics
[00:28:24] sharply worsened? You know, I also
[00:28:28] noticed that. It's hard for me to say yet, but considering what
[00:28:31] I sometimes... even hear, yes, since we all live in
[00:28:35] Kyiv, we are all in the risk
[00:28:38] zone, and for many years we have lived, you know, by
[00:28:41] the principle of a lottery, whether it will hit or
[00:28:45] not, but I even see in the sky how
[00:28:48] these jet drones are really shot down, how
[00:28:52] effectively Ukrainian air defense
[00:28:55] works. I'm not ready yet, you know, I'm not a military
[00:28:58] expert, and I only use information from...
[00:29:02] open sources, but somehow it seems to me that we
[00:29:06] have found something, and we have something, and
[00:29:10] we have something quite effective, of course, this
[00:29:13] is not yet 90%
[00:29:17] shot down, but
[00:29:20] is it 90 plus, but recently, if I'm not
[00:29:23] mistaken, there was even information that
[00:29:25] 94%, yes, in one day they managed
[00:29:29] to shoot down Russian...
[00:29:32] drones, that is, well, these are fantastic results, if such
[00:29:35] a countermeasure has been found, then this is a huge
[00:29:39] achievement of both Ukrainian manufacturers and
[00:29:41] Ukrainian defense forces, so let's hope for
[00:29:45] that, and of course, let's hope that in the near
[00:29:49] future, Ukrainian ballistics, which we have been waiting for for so long,
[00:29:52] will visit Moscow, and finally we
[00:29:56] will also start removing directly from the
[00:29:59] capital of this kingdom of darkness. those objects
[00:30:03] that will critically affect the
[00:30:06] vital activity of this city. This
[00:30:10] week, two more events occurred that clearly fit
[00:30:14] into the logic of Russia's continued hybrid war against Europe. The first of these
[00:30:18] cases was when groups of unknown persons twice penetrated
[00:30:22] from the territory of the Republic of Belarus. One of them was a group of approximately
[00:30:25] 20 illegal migrants, who were accompanied by
[00:30:28] armed men without identification marks. And
[00:30:32] after penetrating the territory, they retreated, distracted the attention
[00:30:35] of the border patrol, at which time another group of unknown persons
[00:30:39] in masks penetrated another section, destroyed
[00:30:42] the electrical panel, stole surveillance cameras and managed...