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[00:00:01] with suspicion that he was spying there.
[00:00:04] So, Mykhailo Tkach and his operator, Yaroslav
[00:00:08] Bondarenko, went to Vienna to make a report
[00:00:11] about how the Ukrainian fugitive, the former
[00:00:15] Prosecutor General of Ukraine, Ruslan
[00:00:18] Kravchenko, had settled there. The escape of Ruslan Kravchenko
[00:00:21] is a story worth a separate episode.
[00:00:25] Let me remind you that for a whole week Volodymyr Zelenskyy essentially
[00:00:28] did not take any drastic steps to ensure
[00:00:31] that Ruslan Kravchenko could be held accountable
[00:00:34] for all those things that happened in
[00:00:38] the Ukrainian Prosecutor General's Office, and what happened there, I remind you,
[00:00:42] the Prosecutor General's Office became such a
[00:00:46] den where
[00:00:49] already entire top officials of
[00:00:52] our Prosecutor General's Office and people who
[00:00:55] were responsible for international cooperation
[00:00:59] oversaw fraudulent call centers, and these fraudulent
[00:01:02] call centers, not only robbed Ukrainian
[00:01:05] citizens, they also decided to expand the horizon of their
[00:01:08] activities and began to rob
[00:01:11] Europeans. And, I don't know if
[00:01:15] the case would have seen the light of day, if at the beginning of
[00:01:17] summer Western diplomats had not started
[00:01:20] to press the Ukrainian authorities and ask them to somehow
[00:01:24] deal with these fraudulent call centers, because
[00:01:27] there were already stories when these call centers called
[00:01:31] relatives of those diplomats who work in
[00:01:34] Ukraine,
[00:01:37] but look, obviously, Ruslan Kravchenko knew a lot,
[00:01:40] and in order to prevent Ruslan Kravchenko from
[00:01:44] giving some interviews, from saying
[00:01:47] too much, they decided to save him and give
[00:01:50] him opportunities for retreat. I will also
[00:01:53] remind you, they made sure that this person received a full September
[00:01:57] salary with additional payments, payouts. That is, so that
[00:02:01] he had almost 10 thousand dollars for that,
[00:02:04] for the first budget, as they say, for a very
[00:02:07] expensive European capital, such as Vienna. And
[00:02:11] Mykhailo Tkach told that he and
[00:02:15] his operator went because
[00:02:18] they had such an editorial task, to find
[00:02:22] in Vienna this former fugitive Prosecutor General, who
[00:02:26] also registered in Vienna at a fake address, and in this
[00:02:29] way... to show how he lives in
[00:02:33] the Austrian capital,
[00:02:36] but when they were performing this task,
[00:02:39] they were met by
[00:02:42] armed people, then it became clear that these
[00:02:45] were Austrian special forces, there was an interesting comment
[00:02:49] from the Austrian Minister of Internal Affairs,
[00:02:52] who confirmed that yes, they caught Ukrainian
[00:02:56] journalists, and...
[00:03:00] a quarrel started there, an extortion to sign
[00:03:04] a document in German began there, and there were
[00:03:07] photographs where the operator of the Ukrainian
[00:03:10] Pravda publication received
[00:03:13] kicks and scratches.
[00:03:16] The story is very, very, you know, nasty, because I
[00:03:20] fully share the opinions of many Ukrainians who even
[00:03:23] wrote on Twitter about what kind of
[00:03:27] European country this is, these fraudulent call centers were already
[00:03:31] robbing European pensioners at
[00:03:33] full capacity, and now it turns out that
[00:03:36] Austria, Vienna protects
[00:03:40] these corrupt officials, and look what an interesting story
[00:03:43] emerged, I fully share the opinions from
[00:03:47] the Ukrainian trend, that how did it happen, the European
[00:03:50] Union itself, a number of European countries, including
[00:03:54] very important ones, like Great Britain, complained and
[00:03:57] asked the Ukrainian government to somehow stop
[00:04:00] these fraudulent call centers, which had already completely lost
[00:04:04] their minds, which had already started to rob everything that lives,
[00:04:07] moves, and has a bank account, and Austria
[00:04:10] covers those people, under whose leadership
[00:04:14] exactly this crazy
[00:04:16] fraudulent scheme
[00:04:20] took place, when they
[00:04:22] essentially earned billions, and then
[00:04:26] legalized them through such simpletons as this muse,
[00:04:31] who made herself a type of sole proprietor, who
[00:04:35] offered her prosecutor to use the sole proprietorship of her
[00:04:38] mother, her sister, and her son-in-law and in this way to pump
[00:04:42] millions and millions of money
[00:04:45] that Ukrainian prosecutors received through these
[00:04:48] schemes,
[00:04:50] because Tkach said that they gave
[00:04:54] him this document to sign, and this is like an analogue
[00:04:58] of suspicion, that... there were three articles: the first -
[00:05:01] espionage in favor of Ukrainian military intelligence, that is, essentially
[00:05:05] they accused Mykhailo Tkach, I understand, of working in the interests
[00:05:08] of the Defense Intelligence of Ukraine, the second - participation in a criminal organization,
[00:05:11] interesting: which one, the third
[00:05:14] - causing damage to Austria, well, and
[00:05:18] similar accusations were imputed to Yaroslav
[00:05:21] Bondarenko,
[00:05:23] moreover, he says that we actually worked in Vienna many
[00:05:27] times, always in public places, accordingly, we worked with respect to public
[00:05:31] people, information about whom is of
[00:05:34] such a wording was a shock
[00:05:38] to me, but look, it is worth
[00:05:43] saying that information appeared that Ruslan Kravchenko, after
[00:05:46] settling in Vienna, lives there
[00:05:49] not just as a civilian, he also
[00:05:52] managed to get protection and
[00:05:55] security from the local Ministry
[00:05:58] of Internal Affairs, and I now guarantee that Ruslan
[00:06:02] Kravchenko will use
[00:06:05] this attempt by Ukrainian journalists to explain where exactly
[00:06:08] the former top Ukrainian official is, as
[00:06:12] pressure on him, that he is a victim of Zelenskyy's political regime, and
[00:06:16] thus Ruslan Kravchenko will further intensify his efforts to make
[00:06:19] Austria grant him political asylum. That is, we are talking
[00:06:23] about an absolutely cynical and unprincipled person who is ready
[00:06:27] for literally anything to get this political
[00:06:30] asylum and make it seem that he is generally
[00:06:33] not involved in anything, and generally he doesn't know those
[00:06:36] Ukrainians, and Ukraine is a foreign country to him. And you know, what
[00:06:40] a shock, because when you...
[00:06:47] he had a huge
[00:06:48] career
[00:06:52] rise, because this person headed the tax
[00:06:56] service before the Prosecutor General's Office, by the way, she was
[00:07:00] a very important prosecutor who
[00:07:03] collected all
[00:07:05] these testimonies about war
[00:07:09] crimes of the Russian Federation and the Russian
[00:07:13] occupation army in the city of Bucha, this
[00:07:16] city that became simply a symbol of what Russian
[00:07:19] occupation is at the beginning of the full-scale invasion, and how can
[00:07:22] we prove that Russia really committed war crimes against us,
[00:07:26] that Russia is evil, if
[00:07:29] the prosecutor who collected these evidence, who just
[00:07:33] had everything during Zelenskyy's era, whose official salary was
[00:07:36] excellent, which many Ukrainians
[00:07:39] dreamed of, how he now openly works against
[00:07:43] his state, and again, how all these
[00:07:46] Ukrainian top corrupt officials fear publicity, fear
[00:07:49] Ukrainian media, who might not have filmed anything
[00:07:53] so phenomenal, because if you
[00:07:56] look at it, well, the
[00:07:59] plots of Mykhailo Tkach are quite
[00:08:02] simple, it's a shooting of how
[00:08:06] you are driving, how you observe someone, a couple
[00:08:09] of facts, a couple of documents?
[00:08:12] and maybe Yaroslav Bondarenko,
[00:08:16] the cameraman, was lucky to film how
[00:08:19] Ruslan Kravchenko himself or his
[00:08:23] dressed-up
[00:08:24] wife enters some building, but Ukrainian
[00:08:28] top corrupt officials fear this publicity, where they
[00:08:32] live, and obviously the revenge of Ukrainian citizens, well, there
[00:08:35] are now many of them in Europe, including such citizens who
[00:08:39] live in Vienna, and they are not living luxuriously
[00:08:42] like these top so this is an extremely unpleasant
[00:08:46] story about how Ukrainian top corrupt officials
[00:08:49] try to escape from
[00:08:52] justice, try to escape proper
[00:08:56] punishment, and also portray Ukrainian
[00:08:59] journalists as spies and criminals,
[00:09:02] who allegedly participate in a criminal organization, and it's
[00:09:06] interesting whether this story will continue and whether
[00:09:09] it won't become, you know, a life hack for other top corrupt officials,
[00:09:13] who will be very worried
[00:09:15] not to accidentally run into
[00:09:18] an interview with Mykhailo Tkach, an interview that
[00:09:21] they openly do not
[00:09:23] want to give, because
[00:09:26] for such people it's better to dig in
[00:09:29] somewhere, then get political
[00:09:32] asylum, and then at a convenient moment, maybe even peddle these
[00:09:36] reconciliation stories, there are also
[00:09:39] plenty of such politicians who have emerged and are working as
[00:09:42] doves of peace, but exactly on the side of the Russian
[00:09:46] Federation, because at that moment, when the Russian Federation
[00:09:50] felt that everything was great for them, when at the Valdai
[00:09:53] forum, which took place in the Moscow region, because
[00:09:56] Putin is very afraid of Ukrainian
[00:09:58] drones, and when the Russian
[00:10:02] occupation army is confident that it will squeeze Ukrainians into
[00:10:06] capitulation with all this urbicide and
[00:10:09] constant terror of this
[00:10:12] population, at that moment
[00:10:16] doves of peace emerge, and these doves of peace are
[00:10:20] completely different, there are such freaks as Potap and Nastya, who there
[00:10:23] told about how they had a cyst
[00:10:27] because Nastya spoke Ukrainian for six
[00:10:30] months in the backwoods,
[00:10:34] and there are also completely harmless characters, like the same
[00:10:37] Danylo Hetmantsev, this is a person who is responsible for tax and
[00:10:41] customs policy in the country, but this person emerged,
[00:10:44] and he pulled out
[00:10:48] quotes from one sociological
[00:10:51] study and said that we need to make peace with
[00:10:55] Russia, and here, you know, it's very important to raise archives, because
[00:10:58] the same Danylo Hetmantsev
[00:11:01] on February 22, 2022, what did he do?
[00:11:05] He said that we should not give money to the Ukrainian
[00:11:08] army and about that
[00:11:12] well, you know,
[00:11:15] well, this what European
[00:11:18] solidarity proposes, by the way, it was their proposal to give 50
[00:11:21] billion to the Ukrainian army, that this is pure populism. And why? Because
[00:11:25] obviously, such politicians were already waiting for their beloved
[00:11:29] Russia to come, and they could finally
[00:11:32] meet their Russian friends and chill beautifully with these
[00:11:36] Russian friends in occupied Ukraine. And believe me,
[00:11:40] this was already such a personnel reserve of the Russian Federation, which was prepared
[00:11:44] so that they would receive certain top positions in
[00:11:47] occupied Ukraine.
[00:11:50] Another dove of peace, Ihor Terekhov, the mayor of the city
[00:11:53] of Kharkiv, is also a person who at the beginning of the full-scale
[00:11:57] invasion went to Kharkiv residents and convinced them that
[00:12:01] they should endure, maybe it would be possible to reach an agreement through diplomatic
[00:12:03] means, and now this person openly
[00:12:07] opposes Valerii Zaluzhnyi,
[00:12:10] who can be clearly and openly called one of
[00:12:14] the main visionaries of defense policy, it is
[00:12:17] Valerii Zaluzhnyi who clearly convinces that we
[00:12:20] need to completely reformat our
[00:12:23] defense, and our civilian life taking into account that these
[00:12:26] neighbors such as the Russian Federation and Belarus will not go anywhere,
[00:12:30] and even an enclave like Transnistria will exist
[00:12:33] for now, so we need to completely adapt
[00:12:37] to the fact that there is evil around us, and how to
[00:12:40] live with this evil, we must be ready and
[00:12:43] armed, but Ihor Terekhov
[00:12:46] is already obviously aiming for some elections,
[00:12:50] though when these elections will be, it is unknown for sure, which elections
[00:12:53] they are hoping for and he decided to flirt with
[00:12:56] this audience, which wants simple
[00:12:59] solutions, and these simple
[00:13:02] solutions, they are such that there is some
[00:13:05] party of war, and we are not a party of war, and generally
[00:13:09] we need to make peace and generally we need to relax,
[00:13:12] it's interesting, at what point is Markova going to relax,
[00:13:16] considering that the city of Kharkiv is already a frontline
[00:13:19] city, and this is also a very important target for the Russian occupation
[00:13:23] army, because taking the city of Kharkiv...
[00:13:25] "the Russian occupation army planned in 2014,
[00:13:28] and similarly the Russian occupation army wants
[00:13:32] to take the city of Kharkiv, but already
[00:13:35] now, because their goal is
[00:13:38] to turn one of the main Ukrainian centers of
[00:13:42] the Left Bank into something as terrible as,
[00:13:46] God forgive me, what is called Donetsk and
[00:13:49] Luhansk. And such characters, like Ihor Terekhov, are true
[00:13:53] evil, because you lull the attention
[00:13:56] of Kharkiv residents, you tell them that peace will come very soon, but here
[00:14:00] it is worth saying that Kharkiv will never live in such
[00:14:04] a regime as before 2014, when it was possible
[00:14:07] to hang out with Russians, go for cheap products
[00:14:10] back and forth and think that Russians are brothers. Now
[00:14:13] these brothers just want to destroy the city of Kharkiv, and such
[00:14:17] characters as Ihor Terekhov only help them in this
[00:14:20] confidence that Kharkiv will be ours. Why? Because I remind
[00:14:24] you that shortly before the full-scale invasion,
[00:14:27] Ihor Tsyerikhov was doing what? He was making
[00:14:30] proposals that the Russian language should be regional,
[00:14:34] because the Russian language is very much needed in Kharkiv,
[00:14:36] it turns out. And such politicians,
[00:14:39] they are like chameleons, they can
[00:14:43] pretend to be patriots for a short time. But when
[00:14:46] such a moment comes that Russia may soon
[00:14:49] push Ukrainians to capitulation, they definitely
[00:14:52] show their true colors, and such statements,
[00:14:56] such opposition to Valerii Zaluzhnyi, once again
[00:14:59] emphasizes who Ihor Terekhov is, and when
[00:15:03] we talk about these doves of peace, I cannot but
[00:15:06] mention another character, namely Oleksiy Honcharenko, already
[00:15:10] a former Member of Parliament from European
[00:15:12] Solidarity, who was a bright Member of Parliament, here
[00:15:16] it is worth emphasizing that Oleksiy Honcharenko is a talented Ukrainian
[00:15:19] politician, yes, who knows how to play with
[00:15:22] populism, who knows how to play very well
[00:15:26] in the media, who has boosted his YouTube channel to 1.5 million
[00:15:29] subscribers, and who very skillfully
[00:15:33] uses even such limited parliamentary opportunities
[00:15:36] that exist in the current convocation, for
[00:15:40] example, his temporary special commission
[00:15:42] is worth it, which is better known as the Honcharenko TSC, it has
[00:15:46] a long name, defense and all that, because
[00:15:50] it has become such a platform for the personal PR of
[00:15:53] the solo politician Oleksiy Honcharenko, because there, how
[00:15:57] they hype on the topic of military commissariats and civilians, civilians and
[00:16:00] military commissariats, and similarly one can find interesting
[00:16:04] things, such as a full analysis of the interview
[00:16:07] of, and, um, the
[00:16:11] speech of Denis Shtillerman, where he said a lot of cringe,
[00:16:14] and then went for whitewashing interviews, or when Herman
[00:16:18] Halushchenko was invited, or when Zhumadilov came, and there
[00:16:22] we heard details of how Tymur Mindich influenced
[00:16:25] Ukrainian energy, and before that, also Ukrainian
[00:16:29] defense, for example, how he wanted to pawn off
[00:16:32] dubious Israeli bulletproof vests for the Ukrainian
[00:16:36] army. But Oleksiy Honcharenko
[00:16:39] also decided to come out with such peaceful
[00:16:42] initiatives, well,
[00:16:44] which are
[00:16:46] completely unsuccessful, and which are completely infantile, for
[00:16:50] example, in one of the series of posts there was such
[00:16:53] a quote that Ukraine should stop this with Russia,
[00:16:57] mutually hitting Ukrainian
[00:17:00] schools and kindergartens, and this is outright nonsense, because it is the Ukrainian
[00:17:04] side that did not hit Russian kindergartens and schools, there was none.
[00:17:08] It was not in nature, but the Russian side hits whatever it can reach,
[00:17:11] or when there were such proposals about
[00:17:15] historical personalities, that something needed to be smoothed over, that
[00:17:19] there was manipulation on the monument to the unknown soldier, about
[00:17:22] the Russian language there was again manipulation, and
[00:17:26] this very clearly shows that this
[00:17:29] politician is looking for his audience and
[00:17:32] is trying to find his niche, to ride the same
[00:17:36] niche that really wants simple solutions with
[00:17:39] Russia and peace at any cost, and this is about
[00:17:42] 7-10% of look, all these peace plans, they
[00:17:45] are shattered, they are already shattered, because the US Secretary
[00:17:49] of State, Marco Rubio, came out and said that at
[00:17:52] this stage all these negotiations are
[00:17:55] impossible, and why, because Putin does not want to make
[00:17:59] peace, Russia does not want to make peace, Russia is confident
[00:18:02] that it will suffocate Ukraine into capitulation, also
[00:18:06] the Russian Federation is confident that it
[00:18:09] will be able to deceive and continue to deceive Donald
[00:18:13] Trump and gradually
[00:18:17] achieve the lifting of sanctions and thus there is no need to stop the war
[00:18:20] against Ukraine and thus already raise
[00:18:24] money for new escalation, including in
[00:18:28] Ukraine and for new acts of war
[00:18:31] already against NATO and EU countries, but already in Eastern Europe,
[00:18:34] for example, in the Baltics. Therefore.
[00:18:38] This is also a story about how these doves
[00:18:41] of peace flew out, but look, in their beaks
[00:18:45] are not olive branches, but
[00:18:48] branches of some shit, and all
[00:18:51] these peace plans and proposals, they did not last a week,
[00:18:55] because they were completely shattered against
[00:18:58] the harsh reality, where the Russian Federation is not going
[00:19:01] to stop the war, everything suits them, and they further want to press
[00:19:05] us with urbicide and geno. So there will be no morality, as they
[00:19:09] say, think for yourselves and
[00:19:12] openly analyze all these doves of peace, definitely check if
[00:19:16] they had Russian relatives or connections with pro-Russian
[00:19:19] parties, because that's why, because this is always a very
[00:19:23] good marker of who this dove of peace is. Thank you all for
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[00:23:16] ORB. This is already
[00:23:26] practically the second week
[00:23:28] of almost daily and
[00:23:32] nightly terror, and it's about this terror that we will
[00:23:35] talk at the beginning of our broadcast.
[00:23:38] Volodymyr Bondarenko, Kyiv City Council deputy, we are waiting
[00:23:41] for his appearance on our air,
[00:23:44] we will ask about the current situation in Kyiv
[00:23:47] at this minute. And specifically about all these
[00:23:51] attacks. Good day.
[00:23:54] Good day, Mr. Roman, Ms. Lesya, ladies and gentlemen,
[00:23:58] good day. The attack on
[00:24:01] Kyiv continues, I hope that we are all
[00:24:04] safe now, as Vitali Klitschko just
[00:24:08] announced another, unfortunately, hit on an administrative
[00:24:12] building in the Holosiivskyi district. As
[00:24:15] of now, at least, before this hit, we had
[00:24:19] four casualties, and three of them were hospitalized,
[00:24:22] as of now all special services are moving to the site
[00:24:26] of the UAV crash in the Holosiivskyi district, so we will
[00:24:30] unfortunately wait for the next information. We
[00:24:33] saw in the last few days,
[00:24:36] there were strikes on schools and kindergartens,
[00:24:39] that is, in the current scale
[00:24:42] of Kyiv, how many such institutions are actually
[00:24:46] out of order? Well, Roman, if we talk about
[00:24:50] educational institutions, we can say that every third educational
[00:24:53] institution in Kyiv suffered from Russian
[00:24:56] air attacks, starting from the beginning
[00:25:00] of the full-scale invasion, unfortunately, in recent days we
[00:25:03] see that these are again attacks only
[00:25:06] on civilian infrastructure, these are
[00:25:09] administrative buildings, these are business centers, these are
[00:25:12] data centers, these are shopping centers, these are educational institutions,
[00:25:16] these are residential buildings, these are transport infrastructure
[00:25:20] objects, as today we had to
[00:25:22] change the movement of transport, in particular
[00:25:25] trolleybuses due to damage to the contact
[00:25:28] network, but I emphasize again that this is exclusively
[00:25:32] civilian infrastructure, and no matter how Russians try to explain
[00:25:35] it, unfortunately, the facts do not change, this
[00:25:39] constant strike on internet providers
[00:25:42] and their data centers, where
[00:25:46] data centers, how catastrophic does this already look?
[00:25:50] That is, we remember, after the first, second
[00:25:53] strikes, a rather large number of subscribers suddenly
[00:25:56] lost internet, as
[00:25:59] of now, what is the situation with the internet in Kyiv?
[00:26:04] Well, with mobile internet there are certain difficulties,
[00:26:07] first of all, today the administrative building
[00:26:11] of Kyivstar's headquarters was attacked,
[00:26:15] accordingly, there are indeed difficulties in Kyiv, this affects
[00:26:18] the quality of mobile internet, this affects certain
[00:26:22] geolocation work, particularly in the city of
[00:26:25] Kyiv. At the same time, phone communication
[00:26:29] works and for... city
[00:26:33] services responsible, in particular, for
[00:26:35] information security,
[00:26:38] information and communication,
[00:26:40] direct phone communication will
[00:26:44] work normally, even in
[00:26:46] cases of continued phone
[00:26:50] communication, but we saw that some of our colleagues who
[00:26:53] work on streaming TV channels, like
[00:26:57] YouTube channels, simply stopped broadcasting, at least
[00:27:01] yesterday. There are problems, as the Russians
[00:27:04] are disabling the largest data centers in the capital, so
[00:27:08] there are problems, and disruptions with mobile internet are expected in the nearest future,
[00:27:11] Mr. Volodymyr, we saw there was a rate, a rate of the
[00:27:15] supreme, among the issues, besides drones,
[00:27:18] interceptors, there were also exactly about data centers, probably the capital's
[00:27:22] small parliament also has to decide something, our specialists
[00:27:26] said that it is necessary to decentralize, it is necessary to
[00:27:29] move,
[00:27:31] are there already some... some algorithm, decision, or will
[00:27:35] each internet operator and
[00:27:38] data center employees deal with it themselves according to an individual
[00:27:42] plan? Roman, here, for the most part, each
[00:27:45] provider will solve this issue independently regarding
[00:27:49] decentralization. In fact, they are already decentralized, that is, there are
[00:27:52] large data centers, there are data centers that are smaller
[00:27:55] in volume. At the same time, over the past few
[00:27:59] I say why it is a tendency and there will indeed be problems. Because
[00:28:03] over the past few days we have seen quite targeted
[00:28:06] strikes that are aimed precisely at objects
[00:28:09] that are data centers, and I am not
[00:28:13] sure that it will be possible for internet providers
[00:28:16] to quickly decentralize these
[00:28:19] objects throughout the territory of Kyiv and the region,
[00:28:22] respectively. Mr. Volodymyr, how does movement around
[00:28:26] Kyiv look now? We saw this attack in broad daylight
[00:28:30] on a parking lot, how do... with mobile shelters, can they
[00:28:34] really ensure the safety of
[00:28:38] people in broad daylight, because the Russians are now
[00:28:41] not just tormenting residents and guests of
[00:28:45] the capital at night? Lesya, in any case,
[00:28:48] we are installing mobile shelters. Kyiv Pastram is currently
[00:28:52] doing this at public transport stops where there are no
[00:28:55] nearby stationary shelters of any kind. At the same time, well,
[00:28:58] categorically, let's be frank,
[00:29:01] categorically. Mobile shelters will not solve the problem. That is probably
[00:29:05] the worst, simplest type of shelter that will protect
[00:29:08] us only from debris and only
[00:29:11] a small number of people, but they still need to be installed.
[00:29:15] The first 50 will appear in the near
[00:29:18] future, then by the end of the year, as many as the city manages to put in place,
[00:29:21] despite the fact that, unfortunately,
[00:29:24] the district administrations and districts failed this task
[00:29:28] for almost a year, now the city is taking it over and the city will
[00:29:31] do it itself. We also don't see another choice, but
[00:29:35] they still have to appear, despite the fact that, I emphasize
[00:29:38] again, they are
[00:29:41] the worst, probably, in terms of shelters, but
[00:29:44] the pace, the increase in the number of people
[00:29:47] who in one second lose their
[00:29:51] house, apartment, we see private housing and
[00:29:54] apartment buildings, it has grown
[00:29:56] geometrically. In addition to the fact that people
[00:30:00] are helped by both local authorities and volunteers, well, to
[00:30:03] cover, let's say, broken windows, or something
[00:30:07] else, here we are talking about a more serious matter. Ahead
[00:30:10] is autumn, winter, you lose your house, I don't know
[00:30:14] how quickly it works, there is compensation, and
[00:30:17] the number of people is growing, this means a geometric
[00:30:20] increase in money, which would have to be issued simultaneously
[00:30:24] every day to a new portion
[00:30:27] of Kyiv residents. How is this,
[00:30:30] well, at least as of this week, there were no interruptions in funding
[00:30:34] for its recovery program in Kyiv, of course, the number is growing. The only thing
[00:30:38] we can say so far is that it is mostly
[00:30:41] damaged, not destroyed housing, meaning people will receive
[00:30:45] compensation much faster than if it were complete
[00:30:49] destruction. At the same time, there are indeed private houses that were completely
[00:30:52] destroyed, and a number of apartments, which today, this issue
[00:30:56] is being resolved a little differently,