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[00:00:00] the Russian trail and the consequences all this could have
[00:00:03] for our society,
[00:00:06] our neighbors. We will continue to follow this,
[00:00:09] it is important.
[00:00:24] Let us honor with a moment of silence the memory of Ukrainian
[00:00:28] servicemen and civilians of Ukraine who died in the
[00:00:31] war unleashed by Russia.
[00:01:17] Every day, Russian aggression causes destruction and pain to Ukraine, but
[00:01:21] no crime should go unpunished. The International Register of Damage
[00:01:25] for Ukraine is the first step to obtaining compensation, created under the auspices
[00:01:28] of the Council of Europe, to record every loss since February 24,
[00:01:32] 2022. Anyone can submit an application.
[00:01:36] People who have lost their home, property or job, those who have survived captivity or lost
[00:01:39] loved ones, businesses and the state of Ukraine. 43
[00:01:43] categories of applications are provided. You can submit one or more applications in different
[00:01:47] categories through the web portal Diia. Most of the information
[00:01:50] will be pulled automatically. It is free and does not require
[00:01:53] lawyers. Your data is confidential and protected.
[00:01:57] The Register accepts and processes applications from victims for compensation for damage,
[00:02:01] losses and harm caused by Russian aggression. Further consideration
[00:02:04] of applications and decision-making on payments will be carried out by the future international compensation
[00:02:08] commission for Ukraine. It will determine the amounts of payments from the future
[00:02:12] compensation fund. Do not wait for the end of the war, submit
[00:02:15] your application to the register today.
[00:03:45] Hello everyone who is watching us now, this is Slava News, which can also be watched on
[00:03:48] Espresso, in the studio Oksana Vysochenska. And we start
[00:03:52] with the hottest news. A Russian attack drone hit
[00:03:56] a high-rise building in Kharkiv on the morning of October 12. There was
[00:03:59] extensive destruction of the upper floors, said Mayor
[00:04:03] Ihor Terekhov. We will find out more details
[00:04:06] very soon and inform you.
[00:04:10] Ukraine supports all real and reliable formats for ceasefire and
[00:04:14] war. Kyiv is ready not to strike Russian
[00:04:17] energy and counts on a similar readiness from Russia and on
[00:04:20] the agreement of the President of the United States of America on this.
[00:04:24] The Armed Forces received all necessary orders. This
[00:04:28] was stated by Volodymyr Zelenskyy
[00:04:30] in an address on October 11 in response to Trump's post about
[00:04:34] Ukraine and Russia allegedly agreeing to a so-called
[00:04:37] energy truce. The President of Ukraine emphasized that this
[00:04:41] is good news and it is important that it becomes part of
[00:04:44] reality. At the same time, the State Duma of the Russian Federation reported that they
[00:04:48] have no information about such agreements, and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
[00:04:51] of Ukraine on the same evening, after Zelenskyy's address, published
[00:04:55] a statement that the Kremlin did violate the truce
[00:04:59] immediately after its announcement, striking the Kharkiv
[00:05:02] TPP-5.
[00:05:05] There is a statement from the President of the United States that
[00:05:08] an energy ceasefire has been reached.
[00:05:12] This is good news for everyone, it is important
[00:05:16] that it becomes
[00:05:18] part of all real and
[00:05:21] reliable formats for ceasefire
[00:05:24] and end of war. Ukraine
[00:05:27] is ready not to strike Russian
[00:05:30] energy and we count on similar
[00:05:34] readiness from Russia and on
[00:05:37] the agreement of the President of the United States
[00:05:40] of America. Regarding this. We...
[00:05:43] We welcome such an agreement.
[00:05:46] The administration of US President Donald Trump threatens to stop
[00:05:50] supplying American weapons to Ukraine if the defense
[00:05:53] forces do not stop striking Russian energy
[00:05:56] infrastructure. This is reported by the Financial Times with
[00:05:59] reference to European officials who learned about
[00:06:02] telephone conversations between American officials and representatives of Ukraine and
[00:06:06] Europe. According to the publication, Washington also threatened
[00:06:10] to stop intelligence sharing with Kyiv and block
[00:06:13] the Pearl mechanism, through which NATO countries purchase American weapons
[00:06:17] for Ukraine. The White House declined
[00:06:20] to confirm or comment on these
[00:06:22] reports.
[00:06:25] Ukraine uses asymmetric strikes to reduce
[00:06:28] Russia's ability to launch ballistic attacks. In
[00:06:32] September and early October, the defense forces hit eight Russian
[00:06:35] launchers, destroyed three, and damaged
[00:06:38] five more. This was reported by Defense Minister Yevhen Khmara.
[00:06:42] According to him, these strikes have already forced Russian troops to cancel
[00:06:45] or change planned attacks. At the same time, existing
[00:06:49] and potential supplies of missiles for air defense
[00:06:52] are insufficient to completely protect Ukraine from
[00:06:55] ballistics. Therefore, Kyiv continues negotiations with
[00:06:58] partners on accelerating supplies. Khmara emphasized
[00:07:02] that Ukraine needs dozens and hundreds of missiles, not single
[00:07:05] deliveries. The minister also emphasized that the effectiveness
[00:07:08] of intercepting conventional Russian Shaheds exceeds 90%.
[00:07:13] And against jet drones, interceptor drones are already
[00:07:16] being used. In addition, since the beginning of Ukrainian operations against
[00:07:20] Russian oil refining, according to Khmara, 51% of the Russian
[00:07:23] Federation's capacity
[00:07:25] has been disabled.
[00:07:29] On October 12 and 13, a security forum will be held in Warsaw,
[00:07:32] at which the Commander-in-Chief of NATO forces in Europe,
[00:07:36] General Alexus Grenkevich, will for the first time publicly present
[00:07:39] the theory of victory over Russia. The strategy, which
[00:07:43] has been discussed at the highest level of the Alliance's military committee
[00:07:46] in recent months, will be dedicated to the future of NATO and the security
[00:07:49] of Europe. One of the key guidelines of the strategy is
[00:07:52] 2029. It was defined as an important
[00:07:56] deadline for preparing allies for future challenges. President
[00:08:00] of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy will also join the forum online, and
[00:08:03] the Ukrainian delegation will be headed by Foreign Minister Andriy
[00:08:06] Sybiha. He will also present the Russian attack
[00:08:10] drone Shahed, which is used for
[00:08:13] Ukrainian cities, and participants will discuss how
[00:08:16] to limit the production of such drones. In total, the forum
[00:08:19] will gather about two and a half thousand participants from 90
[00:08:22] countries, including representatives of NATO, EU governments and
[00:08:26] the defense
[00:08:27] industry.
[00:08:30] Poland and Europe will continue to support Ukraine in resisting
[00:08:34] Russian aggression. Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk
[00:08:37] assured President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy during a phone call
[00:08:41] on October 11. The parties discussed strengthening
[00:08:44] Ukraine's defense capabilities and the current needs of the Ukrainian
[00:08:48] army against the background of intensified Russian attacks.
[00:08:51] Zelenskyy emphasized the importance of joint actions to ensure
[00:08:54] security. The leaders also coordinated positions ahead of
[00:08:58] meetings at the EU level in Brussels. The conversation
[00:09:01] took place before the start of the Warsaw Security
[00:09:04] Forum.
[00:09:08] A man who threatened Prime Minister Donald Tusk
[00:09:12] and Defense Minister Władysław Kosiniak-Kamysz was detained in Poland. This
[00:09:16] was reported by Tusk himself. Earlier, Polish police received information
[00:09:20] about a possible assassination attempt on the Head of Government and the Head of the Defense
[00:09:23] Ministry. After that, Interior Minister Marcin Kierwinski and
[00:09:27] Special Services Coordinator Tomasz Siemoniak ordered
[00:09:30] the necessary measures to be taken. According to preliminary information, the threats could
[00:09:34] have come remotely, and Polish authorities are currently
[00:09:37] not reporting details about the detainee or the circumstances of the case.
[00:09:41] Let me remind you, earlier on Sunday morning, the State Security Service
[00:09:45] received information about an attack by email. According to sources
[00:09:48] of the Gazeta Wyborcza newspaper, the letter mentioned specific
[00:09:52] addresses where the Prime Minister and the Minister of
[00:09:55] Defense could have been, as well as their plans for the near
[00:09:58] future. The threat allegedly came from a circle of right-wing
[00:10:01] extremists, and the probable perpetrators were citizens
[00:10:05] of Poland. Law enforcement officers regarded the threats as indicating
[00:10:08] a high probability of their realization and convened an extraordinary meeting.
[00:10:15] Regardless of whether it concerns policemen or
[00:10:18] employees of the state protection service, we
[00:10:21] treat this matter with extreme seriousness.
[00:10:25] The radicalization of youth, about which we have talked so much over
[00:10:29] the past week, the radicalization of adults, various
[00:10:32] kinds of threats, some of which later turn out to be
[00:10:35] ridiculous jokes, but in this case we are talking about
[00:10:39] a high probability of the actual realization of these
[00:11:21] the Warsaw Security Forum, there at...
[00:11:25] the Warsaw Security Forum, where the theory of
[00:11:28] victory over Russia
[00:11:30] will be presented, our Natalka Volosatska, a correspondent from
[00:11:34] Warsaw, a correspondent of Slava, Natalka
[00:11:37] will follow all the statements, the
[00:11:40] course of events, and will
[00:11:42] inform our viewers about all this,
[00:11:46] so Natalka Volosatska is joining our broadcast,
[00:11:49] good morning, welcome, Natalka, good morning,
[00:11:53] hello. Please tell us what will
[00:11:57] happen today at the Warsaw Security Forum, besides
[00:12:00] the presentation of the theory of victory over Russia,
[00:12:04] will there be any other events, or will there be a broad discussion
[00:12:07] of this theory of victory over
[00:12:09] Russia?
[00:12:12] The Warsaw Security Forum will gather 2,500 participants from 90 countries over two
[00:12:15] days, including representatives of political, military, diplomatic bodies,
[00:12:19] defense. One of the main
[00:12:22] events, as you already mentioned, will be a public...
[00:12:32] Previously, the strategy was discussed only at the highest level of
[00:12:35] the military committee, which they do not use, say the employees
[00:12:39] of the State Emergency Service. Well, we haven't
[00:12:42] used it yet, maybe in winter, then we will
[00:12:44] use it, but for now we are managing, they just started turning it off, life will show,
[00:12:48] life will show, yes, and last winter we went, we know, it was difficult,
[00:12:52] there was no light. but we didn't go, somehow we managed while
[00:12:55] there is no, there is no year we went, we didn't go,
[00:12:59] honestly, we sat at home and lit candles, we
[00:13:03] visited several invincibility points in Kyiv, as of now there are few
[00:13:06] people everywhere, but the situation will likely change
[00:13:10] if the weather gets colder, the situation in
[00:13:13] the energy system becomes more difficult, I have never
[00:13:16] been there, but I saw that you can charge there,
[00:13:20] drink coffee or tea there, well, they only set it up yesterday, we haven't been there yet. will we
[00:13:23] go there? The State Emergency Service deployed
[00:13:27] five invincibility points in Kyiv, two in Holosiivskyi, two
[00:13:30] in Obolonskyi and one in Podilskyi districts. If the situation in
[00:13:34] the energy system worsens, the Ministry of Internal Affairs promises
[00:13:38] to increase their number both in the capital and in
[00:14:27] the Warsaw Security Forum, there at
[00:14:30] the Warsaw Security Forum, where the theory of
[00:14:34] victory over Russia
[00:14:36] will be presented, our Natalka Volosatska, a correspondent from
[00:14:40] Warsaw, a correspondent of Slava, Natalka
[00:14:43] will follow all the statements, the
[00:14:46] course of events and will
[00:14:48] inform our viewers about all this,
[00:14:52] so Natalka Volosatska is joining our broadcast,
[00:14:55] good morning, welcome, Natalka, good morning,
[00:14:59] hello, please tell us what will
[00:15:03] happen today at the Warsaw Security Forum, besides
[00:15:06] the presentation of the theory of victory over Russia,
[00:15:10] will there be any other events, or will there be a broad discussion
[00:15:13] of this theory of victory over
[00:15:15] Russia?
[00:15:18] The Warsaw Security Forum will gather 2,500 participants from 90 countries over two
[00:15:21] days, including representatives of political... military, diplomatic bodies,
[00:15:25] defense. One of the main events, as you already mentioned, will be
[00:15:28] the public presentation of the theory of victory in case of a Russian attack
[00:15:31] on the eastern flank, the program will be presented
[00:15:35] by Alexus. Yankevich, previously
[00:15:38] the strategy was discussed only at the highest level of
[00:15:41] the Alliance's military committee, this concept is about preparing NATO
[00:15:45] for a high-intensity conflict, the focus is on 2029, which
[00:15:48] is considered an important benchmark for the development
[00:15:52] of
[00:15:54] the combat readiness of European and American armed forces.
[00:15:58] The discussion will concern not only deterrence and the development
[00:16:01] of military and industrial potential, which will allow NATO
[00:16:05] to effectively respond to possible aggression. According to
[00:16:08] the organizers of the Warsaw Security Forum, the theory of
[00:16:11] victory should outline not only a way to delay an attack, but
[00:16:14] also to convince the enemy that the war against NATO cannot be
[00:16:28] by Prime Minister Donald Tusk, the Minister of Defense, Foreign Affairs and
[00:16:31] Finance, and also the head of the President of Poland's Chancellery and the head
[00:16:35] of the National Security Bureau. Sybiha
[00:16:45] on the possibilities of limiting
[00:16:51] Russian drone production and
[00:16:54] cutting off access to components from
[00:16:57] Western countries, which are actually
[00:17:06] Volosatska, correspondent of Slava from Warsaw, where
[00:17:09] the Warsaw Security Forum opens today.
[00:17:13] In a few hours, the Commander-in-Chief of the Allied
[00:17:17] Armed Forces of NATO in Europe, Alexus Grenkevich, will present
[00:17:21] a new alliance strategy at the defense forum in Warsaw, this is the theory of victory, it
[00:17:24] provides for a rapid repulsion of a possible attack from
[00:17:28] Russia, as well as the use of innovations, so at
[00:17:31] this moment we can say that such
[00:17:35] a report will be and such a report will be broadcast on
[00:17:39] Slava's YouTube channel from 14:10 to
[00:17:42] 14:40 Kyiv time, well, and this
[00:17:46] broadcast will be on Espresso TV channel, so
[00:17:49] don't miss it, what is known about
[00:17:53] the new plan, see in the next material.
[00:17:56] Integration of modern technologies
[00:18:03] into traditional military power. This is how the theory of
[00:18:07] victory by Alexus Grynkevych can be briefly described. The text of the document was
[00:18:10] kept in complete secrecy until today, however, some of its
[00:18:14] provisions still became known to the press. Thus, Bloomberg
[00:18:17] reports, citing interlocutors, that
[00:18:20] the new NATO strategy is a so-called roadmap of actions in
[00:18:24] case of a Russian attack on the Alliance countries.
[00:18:27] The goal is to deter a potential
[00:18:30] enemy and prevent war. If an attack
[00:18:34] happens, NATO must be ready to stop the invasion, show
[00:18:37] superiority and defeat enemy forces, with special
[00:18:41] attention to strengthening the defense of the eastern flank, increasing defense
[00:18:44] spending and training troops.
[00:18:48] At the heart of the strategy
[00:18:51] are new technologies, including autonomous drones and
[00:18:54] target detection systems using artificial intelligence. The Alliance plans
[00:18:57] to deter a Russian attack with ground forces, cheap
[00:19:01] drones and systems with minimal crew. The next
[00:19:05] step is the destruction of the Russian army's command
[00:19:09] and control systems, so that it cannot effectively
[00:19:13] coordinate combat
[00:19:14] operations.
[00:19:17] At the same time, the document emphasizes the defensive
[00:19:20] nature of NATO. The Alliance seeks to avoid provocations, but at the same
[00:19:23] time is ready to jointly counter hybrid
[00:19:26] threats, from cyberattacks to actions aimed at
[00:19:30] destabilizing
[00:19:30] society.
[00:19:34] Grenkevich's theory of victory is not only a step-by-step response to
[00:19:38] threats from Russia, but also a warning to the Kremlin's belligerent
[00:19:41] rhetoric, in particular to threats of invasion, violations
[00:19:45] of airspace by military aircraft, helicopters and
[00:19:48] drones, as well as to regular hybrid attacks. There was no detailed
[00:19:52] joint mechanism of action before this, but the
[00:19:55] development of the strategy itself was not without discussions,
[00:19:58] among the questions were where to invest money and what exactly stands
[00:20:02] behind defense
[00:20:03] spending.
[00:20:08] Earlier, the media reported that the US sent questionnaires
[00:20:11] to NATO allies, all to find out how much they
[00:20:15] spend on defense and whether they support Donald
[00:20:18] Trump's policy, this allegedly was supposed to help Washington decide
[00:20:21] whether to reduce American troops in Europe. Separately, the states
[00:20:25] asked how many additional military partners they could
[00:20:28] provide for NATO's
[00:20:30] common defense.
[00:20:35] I would add that the Alliance's defense strategy
[00:20:37] is constantly evolving. Thus, in 2014,
[00:20:41] after the annexation of Crimea and the start of the war in Donbas, NATO began
[00:20:45] to strengthen the defense of the eastern flank. In particular, in
[00:20:48] 2016, during the summit in Warsaw, member states
[00:20:51] decided to deploy multinational military
[00:20:54] units in Poland and the Baltic
[00:20:56] states.
[00:20:59] Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine forced NATO
[00:21:03] to significantly revise its defense plans. At the summits in
[00:21:06] Madrid in 2022 and in Vilnius in
[00:21:10] 2023. Allies agreed
[00:21:13] to defend every inch of Alliance territory and
[00:21:16] prepare over 300,000 troops for rapid deployment.
[00:21:20] Separately, military presence was expanded in Bulgaria, Hungary,
[00:21:23] Romania and Slovakia. In 2024,
[00:21:27] the Alliance's main mission became, I quote: "To make it impossible for
[00:21:30] a potential aggressor any window of opportunity for
[00:21:34] attack." And already in 2026,
[00:21:36] a battalion tactical group led by Sweden began
[00:21:46] aspect, indeed, it is interesting what the plan
[00:21:50] that will be presented is, we will follow this, let me remind you that
[00:21:54] on Slava's YouTube channel and live on Espresso,
[00:21:56] there will be a broadcast with Ukrainian translation of the speech
[00:22:00] of the Commander-in-Chief of the Allied Armed Forces of NATO in Europe, Alexus
[00:22:03] Grynkevych, he will present a new alliance strategy, the theory of
[00:22:06] victory, at the defense forum in Warsaw, and now we will
[00:22:26] concerns the future of the war,
[00:22:28] or the theory of victory, which
[00:22:31] will be presented today at the Warsaw Security
[00:22:35] Forum, much will be said about the human
[00:22:38] cost of war, where you will participate in
[00:22:41] panel discussions, how do you currently
[00:22:45] assess the level of
[00:22:48] discourse or the level of discussion that is being conducted not only in
[00:22:52] the Ukrainian information space, but also in the global information
[00:22:54] space about civilians, about those people
[00:22:58] who become victims of the Russian-Ukrainian war, and about
[00:23:02] those killings and about that terror that
[00:23:05] Russia inflicts
[00:23:09] on Ukrainians? Well, actually at
[00:23:12] the Warsaw Security Conference,
[00:23:15] a large number of participants are traditionally
[00:23:18] present.
[00:23:21] This year, this is a fairly high government level,
[00:23:24] the Minister of Foreign Affairs will be present, people's deputies,
[00:23:28] both opposition, including public organizations,
[00:23:30] I am not the only representative of Bohdan
[00:23:33] Hubko, traditionally present, and it should
[00:23:37] be noted that despite the fact that the forum is a security forum,
[00:23:40] that is, such events usually, let's say,
[00:23:43] are not very receptive to humanitarian issues,
[00:23:47] that is, issues of civilian population or
[00:23:51] human rights stories, but the Warsaw
[00:23:54] Security Forum has always remained quite open to
[00:23:57] this, and they should be thanked for it, and
[00:24:00] indeed I will participate in
[00:24:04] several panel discussions, I will also
[00:24:07] say that in the evening I will be present at a panel
[00:24:10] discussion, where the future of
[00:24:14] Russia will be discussed, frankly speaking, I doubted whether to accept
[00:24:17] the invitation to this discussion, Garry Kasparov will be
[00:24:21] present, but due to the fact that this person openly, frankly and
[00:24:25] practically supports the Armed Forces of Ukraine, I decided to join this discussion, because
[00:24:29] I believe that Ukrainians should participate
[00:24:32] in discussions about the future of Russia, because this
[00:24:36] is a matter of our survival, and as for the topic
[00:24:39] of the civilian population, it can be said that
[00:24:43] I also just participated in a meeting, a meeting
[00:24:46] of the OSCE Parliamentary Assembly. Again, it is primarily
[00:24:50] a security platform, but there, too, the topic of
[00:24:53] the Ukrainian civilian population, shelling
[00:24:56] that is intensifying, and the approaching
[00:25:00] winter, are heard, and in particular, they are heard
[00:25:04] from representatives of the American Congress, although it is very
[00:25:07] difficult to talk about it now, against the background of the latest decisions
[00:25:10] of the Trump administration, but
[00:25:14] it is important that there are still representatives of Congress, including
[00:25:17] Republicans, who remain... who still
[00:25:21] support Ukraine, although, of course, I understand that we
[00:25:24] expect a more proactive position, but they are there, and I
[00:25:28] hope that in the future this will
[00:25:31] help us somehow reach a different level
[00:25:34] of relations with the United States, return to the previous
[00:25:37] one, yes, but in general, answering your
[00:25:40] question, this is now one of the key topics,
[00:25:44] and also an interesting point, perhaps
[00:25:47] the viewers also know about the information
[00:25:50] that was yesterday
[00:25:51] about the prevention
[00:25:54] of an alleged assassination attempt on
[00:25:57] the leadership of Poland, and I can
[00:26:00] tell you that here within the framework of the forum.
[00:26:03] it seems to me that there were some unprecedented security
[00:26:06] measures, I think that this also gave the guests, who, let's
[00:26:10] say, experienced some inconveniences because of this,
[00:26:13] the opportunity to feel, in fact, the approaching
[00:26:17] of some kind of warlike
[00:26:20] mood, yes, I don't want to say in this regard, you know,
[00:26:23] that this is some kind of wonderful story, yes, and
[00:26:27] that they need it, but my message is
[00:26:31] that the war is becoming closer
[00:26:33] to the EU, I think that especially such
[00:26:37] countries as Poland, such countries as the Baltic states, are really
[00:26:41] feeling it first and foremost, to a lesser extent, of course, further
[00:26:44] west, but still it is much more palpable than
[00:26:48] even a few years ago, when the full-scale
[00:26:51] invasion had already begun, but still the war was not
[00:26:55] so palpable here in the European Union. Maria, if
[00:26:59] we compare conversations and discussions. the level
[00:27:03] of threats, so when you communicate with European
[00:27:06] colleagues, considering, well, even the intensity of the recent
[00:27:09] various attacks, hybrid attacks
[00:27:13] on the countries of the European Union,
[00:27:17] do you feel, well, the seriousness,
[00:27:20] so to speak, of intentions, the seriousness of threats in these
[00:27:24] conversations, do experts,
[00:27:27] politicians, various officials
[00:27:30] from European countries feel
[00:27:33] that Indeed, times are changing, and
[00:27:36] we need to react to them, not just
[00:27:39] theoretically, but
[00:27:41] practically.
[00:27:43] I think it depends, it depends on which country's
[00:27:47] representatives we are talking to and which
[00:27:50] representatives we are talking to. Well, the
[00:27:53] further west you go, the less this threat is felt,
[00:27:57] it seems to me. And again, unfortunately, my...
[00:28:00] Most of them are primarily people who
[00:28:04] deal with human rights, well, and there are still a lot of
[00:28:08] illusions, still a lot of, I would say,
[00:28:11] thoughtless pacifism. Yes, this story about
[00:28:14] peace for everyone and, so,
[00:28:18] let's give up weapons, and the
[00:28:21] army, and so on, yes, that is, simply a lack of contact with
[00:28:25] reality. I'm not saying this is in all cases, but it
[00:28:28] happens, or let's say, some
[00:28:31] blindness to
[00:28:34] the closest threats in the form of the Russian Federation,
[00:28:37] instead, attention to other conflicts. Yes, I won't
[00:28:41] go
[00:28:43] into details now, because again, this is a debatable issue, and I don't
[00:28:47] want to, let's say, say that some
[00:28:50] killings of civilians somewhere on another
[00:28:53] continent are less important than on our
[00:28:57] continent, but still, yes, that is, there are some threats that are
[00:29:00] directly for us, and then already some... conflicts that
[00:29:03] also probably need to be reacted to, it's just that still
[00:29:07] Russia is the biggest existential threat to everyone, including
[00:29:11] European human rights activists, yes, and
[00:29:14] therefore I think it depends, but overall the atmosphere,
[00:29:18] of course, especially in connection with the latest events, so this
[00:29:22] hybrid, hybrid attacks that you mentioned and
[00:29:25] non-hybrid ones as well, yes, they provoke
[00:29:28] greater such, well, let's say, mobilization.
[00:29:33] Here in Western countries, in EU countries,
[00:29:37] well, and it's very palpable from conversations and the general atmosphere, yes, what I
[00:29:40] said earlier, the general atmosphere, well,
[00:29:44] it's a military one, let's say. According to the data of the United
[00:29:47] Nations organization, in the first 8 months of this
[00:29:51] year, at least 22,202
[00:29:54] 22202
[00:29:57] civilians died in Ukraine as a result of the war, and another 13,000
[00:30:00] people were injured. At the same time, since
[00:30:04] the beginning of the full-scale invasion, the Office of the UN
[00:30:07] High Commissioner for Human Rights confirmed the deaths of at least
[00:30:11] 16,431 civilians, including
[00:30:15] 83 children. Many people
[00:30:19] were injured. Does this indicate
[00:30:22] that the killings and
[00:30:25] injuries of civilians in Ukraine in the
[00:30:28] Russian-Ukrainian war are
[00:30:30] Russia's tactic, that it's... not accidental, that it's
[00:30:34] a systematic killing or a planned
[00:30:38] killing by the Kremlin, and that this is one of the elements
[00:30:42] of this war in order to put pressure on
[00:30:45] the civilian population, in order to terrorize
[00:30:48] the civilian population, and that this pressure
[00:30:52] is unacceptable in the conditions of conducting such
[00:30:55] a war.
[00:30:58] Yes, I absolutely.