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[00:00:00] to take out all living things in Kyiv, to take out the warehouses
[00:00:04] that provide the Kyiv agglomeration and
[00:00:08] make life unbearable for Kyiv residents in the Ukrainian
[00:00:11] capital, and traditionally, you know, our Ukrainian
[00:00:13] men, before the new
[00:00:16] winter, they are very infantile about preparation and for some reason
[00:00:20] they think that it will bring again, there will be some positive temperature, and
[00:00:24] somewhere in the air our temperate climatic
[00:00:28] zone will dissolve, that is, there will be no... cold mornings, there will be no cold
[00:00:31] nights, and one can somehow get through there without light and
[00:00:34] heat, but in fact it turned out not
[00:00:38] so, and this autumn, early, let's still
[00:00:41] talk about autumn, it's still far from even deep
[00:00:44] November, not the winter month December, when
[00:00:48] the days are already as short as possible and it's really cold, we
[00:00:52] already have problems with both light and water,
[00:00:55] and the subway stops almost every day, because
[00:00:59] there is not enough... voltage in the power grid,
[00:01:02] and of course, it is worth saying here that
[00:01:06] the Russian Federation is to blame for all the troubles of Ukrainians, Kyiv residents, this
[00:01:09] is undoubtedly the Russian Federation, which commits this terror,
[00:01:13] urbicide and inflicts more and more strikes on
[00:01:16] our infrastructure, and moreover, these new
[00:01:19] business deals with Donald Trump give them
[00:01:23] confidence that they will still break our rear and force
[00:01:26] Ukrainians to give up and say: yes, we... want
[00:01:30] to capitulate, just don't hit us, don't kill us, please,
[00:01:33] all this gives Putin
[00:01:36] confidence that a little more, and he will still pressure Ukrainians on
[00:01:40] those conditions that the Russian Federation has been putting forward for a long time,
[00:01:44] and this is capitulation, in fact, a refusal of its
[00:01:47] identity, this is such a very, very curtailed sovereignty,
[00:01:51] where we are left with the role, well, something very similar to Belarus, or even
[00:01:55] completely some kind of decorative state, where
[00:01:58] we will be allowed... at the bottom of Russia somewhere on a separate stage
[00:02:02] to perform in satin shalwars and embroidered shirts, and
[00:02:06] of course, Putin really wants us not to work, not
[00:02:10] to work with the West in terms of providing for our army,
[00:02:13] so that third countries do not help us with weapons,
[00:02:16] intelligence and everything else, and thus it would be possible sooner or
[00:02:20] later to conquer us by military means, this is all such a preparatory
[00:02:23] stage for the complete absorption and occupation of Ukraine, this
[00:02:27] is everything that happens in a sick mind.
[00:02:30] Putin, but look, uh, yes,
[00:02:34] Russia bears full responsibility for the fact that it wants to destroy our statehood
[00:02:37] and destroy our Ukrainians, who lived peacefully
[00:02:41] and built their lives in our Ukrainian cities. But,
[00:02:45] let's be honest, the Ukrainian authorities bear full
[00:02:48] responsibility for the preparation and for the adaptation of this preparation
[00:02:52] in the conditions of an exhausting war, and
[00:02:55] these hybrid attempts to conquer Ukrainians
[00:02:58] by any means. because when some city, including
[00:03:02] the capital, was not fully prepared
[00:03:05] for such scenarios in 2022 or even
[00:03:09] in 2023, because I remind you
[00:03:12] that it was in the autumn of 2022
[00:03:15] that the Russian Federation began to apply the tactic
[00:03:19] of urbicide for the first time, then it was still possible
[00:03:23] to understand, but when the Ukrainian capital, which is target number
[00:03:26] one, is not ready for almost the fifth year. this
[00:03:30] full-scale invasion, then there are questions for everyone, including Mayor Klitschko,
[00:03:34] who has been in this position for a very long time, and
[00:03:37] for some reason, he doesn't fully
[00:03:40] do what the mayor of the capital should do in
[00:03:44] war. Moreover, let's not forget such leaders as Tymur
[00:03:47] Tkachenko, who traditionally liked to promote themselves by
[00:03:51] taking photos with famous volunteers, like Serhiy Sternenko, and
[00:03:55] promised that they would protect the Ukrainian
[00:03:58] capital from shaheds together. But not a word when these
[00:04:02] shaheds are now flying like a flock of crows over
[00:04:05] the heads of Kyiv residents, moreover, Tymur
[00:04:08] Tkachenko is now in a new position, he is now responsible for the Kyiv
[00:04:12] region, and somehow the person forgot his promises, there were
[00:04:16] other leaders who headed
[00:04:19] the military-civilian administration, and their only
[00:04:23] media activity was to take photos at the place
[00:04:26] where a Russian missile hit a residential building in Kyiv,
[00:04:30] count the victims, be the first to give this information, even
[00:04:33] before the State Emergency Service,
[00:04:36] accordingly, responsible, yes,
[00:04:39] for this or
[00:04:43] that
[00:04:47] specific area, yes, for which the State Emergency Service is responsible, and
[00:04:50] thus issue that how much we care about these Kyiv residents,
[00:04:54] yes, plus very often our
[00:04:58] leaders like to abuse.
[00:05:00] exclusively positive news and not talk about tomorrow, and
[00:05:04] here such situations arise as now, when you don't
[00:05:07] know how you will live further,
[00:05:11] what to prepare for, and here... the mayor
[00:05:13] of Kyiv, Vitaliy Klitschko, appears in an interview
[00:05:17] with
[00:05:19] Associated
[00:05:21] Press France and simply gives
[00:05:25] a crazy advice for Kyiv residents, that
[00:05:28] our attacks are intensifying, Kyiv is under attack,
[00:05:32] and therefore it's about the survival of the city, and
[00:05:35] then a great advice, that
[00:05:39] if you have friends, if you have relatives outside
[00:05:43] Kyiv, please, leave, leave for
[00:05:46] a certain time, because that's how it should be. And
[00:05:50] here I'm interested, for whom are these advices intended, because
[00:05:53] look, it's clearly understood, in the fifth year
[00:05:57] of the full-scale invasion, that everyone who had the opportunity to leave
[00:06:00] Kyiv, or for example, buy a village house somewhere in Vinnytsia region
[00:06:04] and re-equip it more or less for normal living,
[00:06:08] that is, there were at least minimal conveniences, all these
[00:06:12] people... have already done everything, moreover, if someone had the opportunity
[00:06:15] to move to the western borders and
[00:06:19] rent housing somewhere in Ivano-Frankivsk, Lviv or
[00:06:22] Uzhhorod, these people have already done so, because they have such
[00:06:26] an opportunity, and also, look, whoever wanted to,
[00:06:29] has already left abroad, and to relatives who
[00:06:33] live further away, but what kind of advice is this, please, leave
[00:06:36] with your whole families, because we really need
[00:06:39] to survive this survival regime.
[00:06:43] So, look, the mayor of Kyiv is a very
[00:06:47] responsible position, this is a position that accumulates
[00:06:51] billions of funds, and these billions of funds
[00:06:54] do not come out of thin air, they are accumulated
[00:06:58] by these Kyiv residents who go to work every day, who perform
[00:07:02] all their functional duties at work,
[00:07:06] which are assigned to them within their job
[00:07:09] responsibilities, and I'm interested, how does the mayor
[00:07:13] want to receive this money, on which he also lives, and which
[00:07:17] is stolen by various scoundrels and carpenters
[00:07:19] later, who switch from party to party, from
[00:07:23] faction to faction, and make friends with any mayor who would be in our
[00:07:27] Ukrainian capital and with any government that heads
[00:07:30] the government there and sits on Bankova Street, what money will he live on if these families
[00:07:33] leave, moreover, where to leave if, for example, Kyiv region is also
[00:07:37] suffering from shelling, and there
[00:07:40] is also no electricity, there may also be... no water,
[00:07:43] if the Russian Federation intensifies its attacks on
[00:07:46] our water supply systems, then where
[00:07:49] to run? Plus, it seems to me that when some of the
[00:07:53] Ukrainian top officials come out with such advice, then they have
[00:07:56] some unrealistic and exorbitant
[00:07:59] ideas about the everyday life of an ordinary
[00:08:02] Ukrainian, about what apartments these Ukrainians
[00:08:06] live in, and if you live in a private house, what kind of
[00:08:09] private house is it, that is, it is not designed for... a full-fledged
[00:08:12] family to come to you, for example, four or five
[00:08:15] people, moreover,
[00:08:19] okay, this family moved
[00:08:22] from Kyiv for a temporary period, who will do the work that
[00:08:25] is left without
[00:08:29] people, because they left somewhere, again, how do children get
[00:08:33] to their school,
[00:08:36] that is, these are such empty advice that only
[00:08:40] increasingly annoy and show...
[00:08:42] only our leaders do not prepare for
[00:08:46] worse scenarios, they prepare exclusively for positive things, they
[00:08:49] hype exclusively on deaths, they
[00:08:52] like some loud headlines,
[00:08:56] they like to promote themselves at the place
[00:08:59] where a Russian missile or shahed hit, but they bear no
[00:09:03] responsibility, and this is actually terrible, because what did
[00:09:06] the mayor say further in this interview
[00:09:09] to the French.
[00:09:12] that in general I do not call for a complete evacuation of Kyiv,
[00:09:16] to leave the cities empty and give them to Russia, that is exactly the scenario
[00:09:19] Putin seeks, yes, but you call for panic,
[00:09:23] you call for people to simply hit their heads and not
[00:09:27] know what to do tomorrow,
[00:09:30] and this is actually very terrible, because
[00:09:33] an irresponsible top manager is the worst thing that can be in
[00:09:37] wartime, and also a top manager who does not take responsibility
[00:09:41] directly for his... obligations,
[00:09:43] then this is also a completely
[00:09:47] inadequate thing, and here one can talk as much as one wants about
[00:09:50] how the central government, represented by Zelensky,
[00:09:53] oppresses Klitschko, there they block, by the way, there
[00:09:57] money through the treasury, how they delayed
[00:10:00] payment for equipment, again through this
[00:10:03] very treasury, but look, there is such a very important
[00:10:07] nuance: both the government, and the president, and Klitschko, they are all
[00:10:11] in Kyiv.
[00:10:13] They themselves promised us at the beginning of the full-scale
[00:10:16] invasion, and for them it was such a significant argument
[00:10:20] for absolutely everyone, that I didn't flee, I'm not going to flee, I'm going to
[00:10:24] stay here in Ukraine. in Kyiv, so let's work, guys,
[00:10:27] because when you,
[00:10:30] start getting acquainted with the analytics of
[00:10:32] top experts on energy issues,
[00:10:36] then some things are just so terrible, for
[00:10:40] example, there was information from the publication Nashi
[00:10:44] Hroshi, and here Nashi Hroshi analyzed
[00:10:47] several tenders on ProZorro, and here, look what
[00:10:50] it says: September contracts for backup power for 13
[00:10:54] pumping... stations provide for the completion of work
[00:10:57] by March 27, 2027,
[00:11:00] at the end of the heating season, what backup solutions
[00:11:03] will ensure their operation until then? And I'm interested, what
[00:11:07] backup solutions will ensure operation until then
[00:11:11] and why didn't last winter, which was extremely difficult for the city
[00:11:14] of Kyiv, teach our
[00:11:17] leaders anything? What were they thinking about? About a quick victory? About
[00:11:21] Donald Trump and Putin somehow agreeing to end
[00:11:25] this war? About us being given some adequate terms
[00:11:28] for this peace? Well, it's not working out that way, moreover, we
[00:11:32] see what happened at these recent
[00:11:36] negotiations of the delegation, yes,
[00:11:39] Russian-Ukrainian and the already
[00:11:42] traditional American one, consisting
[00:11:45] of Trump's son-in-law, Kushner, and his
[00:11:49] golf buddy Stephen Witkoff, ended in nothing,
[00:11:52] ended prematurely, because the Russian Federation.
[00:11:55] tried to persuade the United States of America to lift
[00:11:59] sanctions in exchange for the Russian Federation not hitting
[00:12:02] our energy facilities.
[00:12:06] These conditions are absolutely
[00:12:09] unacceptable to us, we cannot accept them. In general, sanctions
[00:12:13] against the Russian Federation were imposed by the United States of America for
[00:12:17] acts of aggression against Ukraine. In 2014,
[00:12:20] I remind you, Obama signed all these
[00:12:23] decrees. uh, which imposed significant
[00:12:27] sanctions, which are effective despite everything on the Russian Federation, exactly
[00:12:30] for the annexation and occupation of the Ukrainian peninsula
[00:12:33] of Crimea. The Russian Federation is now trying by any
[00:12:37] means to lift these sanctions, because they need hard cash to
[00:12:41] wage war in Ukraine and further, to
[00:12:44] escalate the situation already on the eastern
[00:12:47] flank of NATO, or to conduct hybrid
[00:12:50] wars against those states
[00:12:53] that do not want to fall into the orbit
[00:12:57] of the Russian Federation and repeat the path
[00:13:00] from which they barely escaped when
[00:13:03] the USSR collapsed and
[00:13:07] this iron curtain fell, but
[00:13:10] Putin has such sentiments, and now the Russian
[00:13:14] Federation is very actively playing Donald Trump, because
[00:13:17] Donald Trump, he is currently captive to his elections,
[00:13:21] it is very important for him to promise populist promises
[00:13:24] to his voters, voters in all countries are the same, so
[00:13:28] to assert that, you know, the Ukrainian
[00:13:31] people somehow messed up in 2019,
[00:13:34] and all Ukrainians are stupid, is absolutely
[00:13:37] wrong, because voters are the same
[00:13:39] everywhere, most people like simple
[00:13:43] solutions, most people like freebies, most people are ready
[00:13:47] to do anything for an extra 2000
[00:13:50] dollars, and accordingly it's not surprising when in Germany
[00:13:53] people massively vote for Alternative for Germany, which
[00:13:56] promises that Germans will never
[00:14:00] fight Russia, let's lift sanctions from the Russian Federation, and
[00:14:03] in general, let's go even further, let's let cheap
[00:14:07] Russian gas through the Nord Streams again and we will live
[00:14:11] in abundance and you will be able to regularly go on vacation somewhere
[00:14:15] on the Greek islands.
[00:14:18] When we analyze this populism for Americans, it
[00:14:22] looks somewhat... differently.
[00:14:26] Donald Trump promised his voters that I will provide
[00:14:29] you with cheap diesel, we will definitely agree with the Russian
[00:14:33] Federation, and that Russian diesel will flow to us like a river, and
[00:14:37] everything will be great, so don't worry, sit and vote for
[00:14:40] Republicans,
[00:14:42] but here it is worth saying that the Russian
[00:14:46] Federation still suffers from Ukrainian attacks on
[00:14:49] oil refineries. And news has long appeared
[00:14:53] that the Russian Federation itself buys diesel from India,
[00:14:57] so the question is who will provide whom,
[00:15:00] and that this populism is always the same, you know,
[00:15:04] Ukrainians for a long time various pro-Russian parties were fed
[00:15:08] with the narrative that, well, vote
[00:15:11] for us, because we will definitely organize cheap
[00:15:15] energy resources, cheap Russian gas from Russia, and you will
[00:15:19] pay little for utilities,
[00:15:22] and during the second half of the 2000s, at
[00:15:26] the beginning of the 2010s, it worked simply
[00:15:29] ideally for the electoral sympathies of the Party of Regions and
[00:15:33] various other parties, and with those regional leaders who
[00:15:36] were called differently in each election, but
[00:15:40] did it bring total success for those voters who voted for the Party
[00:15:43] of Regions? Absolutely not, because a huge number of these
[00:15:47] voters, unfortunately, became homeless, they
[00:15:50] became victims of the first stage of the war,
[00:15:54] the second stage of the war, they lost
[00:15:56] their business, they lost their homes, they
[00:16:00] sometimes lost their relatives, and is
[00:16:03] this not an overprice for this cheap Russian
[00:16:06] gas? When you look at modern America, it
[00:16:10] loses this, you know, greatness,
[00:16:13] loses respect and loses that image
[00:16:16] that was widely formed by
[00:16:20] films and various American
[00:16:22] cultural products somewhere in the 80s and 90s of the last
[00:16:26] century, when
[00:16:29] we, as children, were shown that
[00:16:33] the United States of America is a super-strong state, it is a
[00:16:36] beautiful state that will definitely save you, that everything will be
[00:16:40] great and that true American heroes
[00:16:43] will never make a deal with Russian
[00:16:52] are ready for anything to make a business deal for the Russian
[00:16:56] Federation, and the Russian Federation is not at all against
[00:16:59] using American money later to continue
[00:17:03] its aggressive wars against other
[00:17:06] nations. And this is the moment when you understand
[00:17:09] how much America is relaxed by the feeling
[00:17:13] that an ocean separates you from Europe,
[00:17:17] that your
[00:17:21] last civil war was a very, very long time ago,
[00:17:23] several centuries ago, and thus it will not
[00:17:27] affect you, but it will, it will definitely
[00:17:30] affect you, it's just that now
[00:17:33] America, with these business deals and attempts to appease Putin,
[00:17:37] is indeed losing its image, and you know, when there was this Anchorage,
[00:17:41] probably not by chance, there was this shot, both photo and
[00:17:45] video, which widely spread later through all
[00:17:49] the media. When American soldiers
[00:17:52] laid carpets for Putin and crawled before this
[00:17:56] plane, the Russian
[00:17:58] dictator's plane. So there will be no morality here, but look, this is
[00:18:02] the moment when the Ukrainian government,
[00:18:06] the state of Ukraine, must... look for a new alternative,
[00:18:09] when Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, the person responsible
[00:18:13] for international policy, comes out and says that
[00:18:16] friends, no negotiations are possible
[00:18:19] at this stage, Putin is escalating this whole situation and there is no way out of
[00:18:23] this war through negotiations, then we
[00:18:26] should look for path number two, and
[00:18:29] obviously we need to form our own base, foundation and
[00:18:33] look for internal resources and
[00:18:36] talk more with... the European Union, which actually
[00:18:39] gives us real money and helps us finance
[00:18:43] our entire defense history,
[00:18:47] even pays salaries to our servicemen from
[00:18:51] the SS. So when Ursula von der Leyen demands from
[00:18:54] Zelensky again: please, vote for reforms, please,
[00:18:57] here for each reform we have a price, how much
[00:19:00] this reform costs, we should not giggle and try to save
[00:19:03] Iryna Mudra or Tymur Mindich for the nth time.
[00:19:07] or Andriy Yarmak, but listen to what the Europeans say, because
[00:19:11] it turns out that
[00:19:13] this
[00:19:15] is the only force that is currently helping us, because it
[00:19:18] itself is already in this war, yes, sometimes European
[00:19:22] leaders do not want to tell the truth and try
[00:19:25] more to play out
[00:19:29] this plot from the movie "Don't Look Up", but there is
[00:19:32] an objective reality, the war affects every
[00:19:35] European, and if... if these Europeans do not help
[00:19:39] Ukraine today, then tomorrow their young men will be forced
[00:19:43] to take off their lace
[00:19:46] blouses, take off their pink jeans,
[00:19:50] join the territorial defense and
[00:19:52] think about how they will defend their own
[00:19:56] capitals, because the Ukrainian reserve will not be
[00:20:00] enough for everything, and when someone says, oh, maybe in
[00:20:03] Ukraine it's time to arrange a women's mobilization, then
[00:20:06] get ready, because we also have women,
[00:20:09] you know, their number is not rubber, and women don't give birth, as they
[00:20:13] say, so we only have one
[00:20:16] way out: Zelensky must convene his Verkhovna Rada and
[00:20:20] the Verkhovna Rada must vote for that package of reforms from
[00:20:24] Taras Kachka's Marta Kos's package, which
[00:20:27] has been talked about for a long time, and which we need. I will remind you what were
[00:20:31] the main points of reforms in this package, namely
[00:20:34] the reform of the SBI and uh...
[00:20:38] that is, to elect a new Prosecutor General in an honest
[00:20:41] and transparent competition, and not as Ruslan Kravchenko was elected,
[00:20:44] so that Ruslan Kravchenko would then come and destroy NABU and SAPO, and
[00:20:48] it is mandatory... to grant additional
[00:20:52] powers for anti-corruption investigations to NABU
[00:20:56] and SAPO. Obviously, Zelensky and the company really don't want
[00:21:00] to do all this, because then suspicions will come
[00:21:02] to various Davids Arakhamias, then
[00:21:06] Rustem Umerov will have to go to interrogations,
[00:21:09] then the case of Mindich, who hid in Israel
[00:21:13] under the guise of not even being a citizen of Ukraine, will have to be moved, but nevertheless
[00:21:17] this person still... has influence on the office of the President of Ukraine,
[00:21:20] and of course, they will have to answer
[00:21:24] for all these very inadequate
[00:21:28] bails for Ukrainian corrupt officials, because every
[00:21:31] new story is more cringe. And if we've
[00:21:34] already started talking about these bails, then let's analyze
[00:21:38] the story of the former deputy head of the office
[00:21:42] of the President of Ukraine, Iryna Mudra, I remind you that she is
[00:21:45] the star of the second part of anti-corruption
[00:21:48] tapes, uh. all anti-corruption tapes
[00:21:51] were called Forest Gump
[00:21:55] and she is the author of a very immortal
[00:21:59] juicy quote about how we all
[00:22:02] will be in luxury if NABU continues to
[00:22:06] do its work so well, and what a luxury
[00:22:09] it will be if suddenly Mr.
[00:22:13] Klymenko remains in the position
[00:22:17] of SAPO prosecutor for another seven years, as a result of... an honest and transparent
[00:22:21] competition, so this woman, who was very
[00:22:24] afraid that NABU-SAPO
[00:22:28] would catch all these green leaders by the ass,
[00:22:31] she finally collected 20 million
[00:22:34] UAH for bail and was released, by the way, from
[00:22:38] the Kyiv pre-trial detention center, and
[00:22:40] you know, this bail is very reminiscent of the collection
[00:22:44] of bail for the former head of the Office
[00:22:48] of the President of Ukraine, Ruslan. not Ruslan, but
[00:22:51] Andriy Yermak,
[00:22:54] because for Yermak, this bail was paid by everyone,
[00:22:57] including Kosyi and Kryvyi, and
[00:23:00] Serhiy Rebrov, the famous Ukrainian
[00:23:03] footballer and coach, former coach of our
[00:23:06] national team, and his numerous classmates,
[00:23:10] lawyer Fomin, who, well, just
[00:23:14] said that Yermak is an honest person, and
[00:23:17] in fact, his friendship with Veronika is just. just a friendship
[00:23:21] between a man and a woman, well, and so what if Yermak consults with her about
[00:23:24] his personnel appointments, and that's how it turned
[00:23:28] out here, so for Iryna Mudra, bail
[00:23:31] was paid, she herself contributed a small relative
[00:23:35] share, her civil husband contributed, and it turns
[00:23:38] out it's not Maksym Maketa, she has another civil husband, the father of her
[00:23:42] youngest child, who held a high
[00:23:45] position in the national police, and this man also contributed
[00:23:49] to. for the mother of his child, more than 4 million
[00:23:52] UAH, but there are also some very
[00:23:55] interesting characters, such as an Instagrammer,
[00:23:59] butchers, and such ladies,
[00:24:03] there was also a cleaning lady, who previously
[00:24:06] stole game consoles from the office
[00:24:10] where she cleaned, and now it turns out that the lady has
[00:24:14] a lot of money, and the only
[00:24:17] purpose for which she took... this large sum of money
[00:24:21] is to take it to save Iryna Mudra, it's interesting,
[00:24:25] what, what made her change her mind, when before
[00:24:28] this woman stole
[00:24:31] game consoles, and now helps Iryna
[00:24:35] Mudra to get free. So
[00:24:38] let's figure out who these
[00:24:40] people are, great thanks here to the Schemes project of Radio
[00:24:44] Liberty, because they found a list of all these bail providers,
[00:24:48] it turns out that we have some restrictions and... and it cannot be freely obtained,
[00:24:52] but there are law enforcement agencies,
[00:24:54] which leak certain information, and thus
[00:24:58] one can see who these benefactors of ours are, so
[00:25:02] 692,359
[00:25:05] UAH were contributed by a certain 42-year-old
[00:25:07] Kateryna Zhahlova.
[00:25:11] According to the company UtroL, she is
[00:25:14] the founder and beneficiary of Mira Trade company in
[00:25:17] Kramatorsk.
[00:25:20] So, in 2025, she had two
[00:25:23] proceedings. In the
[00:25:27] first one, Kyivteploenergo demanded
[00:25:29] debt collection from her, meaning the woman didn't even have money to pay for
[00:25:33] utility services. In the second, she was tried for theft. And
[00:25:37] what kind of story was this? This is exactly the story about these gaming
[00:25:40] consoles. In April 2025,
[00:25:44] Zhahlova worked as a cleaner, and then she
[00:25:47] took five gaming
[00:25:50] devices from the office of Ubisoft Ukraine
[00:25:53] for the sum of 44,500
[00:25:56] UAH. The court found her guilty and sentenced her to 5 years
[00:25:59] of imprisonment, but released her from... from
[00:26:02] punishment.
[00:26:05] Now this woman has a two-year
[00:26:08] probation period, and as you can see, during this period, she
[00:26:12] suddenly found this money and
[00:26:15] decided to contribute it for Iryna Mudra. And there's also
[00:26:19] another lady, her name is
[00:26:21] Svitlana Chaika. This woman contributed for Iryna Mudra
[00:26:25] 692,350
[00:26:28] UAH. According to YouControl, she
[00:26:32] is the founder and head of five companies in Kyiv and
[00:26:35] Kharkiv. She also has a private entrepreneurship for the activity of insurance
[00:26:39] agents and brokers. In the court register, journalists found a verdict
[00:26:43] from 2022 regarding a woman with the same surname. And
[00:26:47] now think about it: in June
[00:26:49] 2020, a woman named
[00:26:52] Svitlana Chaika, together with her close friend,
[00:26:56] a man also previously convicted, decided
[00:26:59] to enter one of the entrances and stole a children's stroller
[00:27:03] there. Moreover, the children's stroller
[00:27:07] was already not new, it cost 1100 UAH,
[00:27:11] and this crazy couple pawned this stroller at
[00:27:14] a nearby pawnshop to get at least some money. And
[00:27:18] now, women like this with this name
[00:27:21] have such money. Well, and there's another
[00:27:25] very interesting story worth noting, also with corrupt
[00:27:29] connections.
[00:27:31] 2 million 4000 UAH bail for Mudra was contributed by a certain
[00:27:35] 35-year-old Mariya
[00:27:37] Skabalanovych. So, who is this person?
[00:27:41] This is an internet,
[00:27:44] Instagram, even singer from
[00:27:46] Dnipro,
[00:27:48] who lives in Odesa. And, by the way, you can find
[00:27:52] mentions on the internet that this lady
[00:27:55] participated in various singing
[00:27:58] contests in a country like Israel. And I'll remind you, Israel
[00:28:02] is also a very interesting point, because let's remember where
[00:28:06] Tymur Mindych is and where numerous
[00:28:10] relatives of Iryna Mudra live, and they also
[00:28:14] have Israeli citizenship and
[00:28:17] seemingly are no longer interested in the issue
[00:28:20] of Ukraine. But look, when journalists from the Skhemy project
[00:28:24] called this
[00:28:26] singer, she said that she doesn't know at all, and who
[00:28:30] knows what connects her with Iryna Mudra, and hung up.
[00:28:33] But it turns out that this
[00:28:37] singer has a husband, Oleksandr
[00:28:39] Froimovych, and this Froimovych is a
[00:28:43] businessman from Odesa, and he acted as a guarantor
[00:28:46] in the so-called Kaufman Borukhovych case, or
[00:28:50] if you decipher what kind of case this is, it's
[00:28:53] about illegal seizure
[00:28:57] of the Odesa International Airport,
[00:29:01] and so... this man paid bail
[00:29:04] for these individuals who were involved in this case.
[00:29:07] So, you see, we have such a very interesting case when corrupt officials
[00:29:11] definitely go and save other
[00:29:14] corrupt officials, and they have money, and such
[00:29:18] interesting connections, how one corrupt official saves
[00:29:21] another. And here I'm just curious, where did our
[00:29:24] Ministry of Finance go, where did our financial
[00:29:28] monitoring go? Why
[00:29:31] when you transfer extra money from card to card,
[00:29:35] the bank will definitely write to you, asking: what kind of
[00:29:38] operation is this? But when women with criminal
[00:29:41] proceedings suddenly have almost 700,000
[00:29:44] UAH, and they send it as bail for Iryna
[00:29:47] Mudra, nobody asks any questions. So,
[00:29:51] the question is whether Mr. Pronin is still asleep and what
[00:29:55] our financial
[00:29:57] monitoring is doing.
[00:29:59] It's just
[00:30:02] interesting. But... but look, there's an even more striking story:
[00:30:05] one of the guarantors is named
[00:30:08] Vladyslav Halka. He also contributed almost 700,000 UAH,
[00:30:12] and he's also supposedly a businessman, but a very
[00:30:15] interesting businessman. He's registered in a dormitory, and this person
[00:30:18] was looking for a job for a long time, any job, even a
[00:30:22] dishwasher or a cleaner, or in the field of
[00:30:25] construction, anything. Moreover,
[00:30:28] investigative journalists found applications
[00:30:32] for micro-loans.
[00:30:35] What did this person do?
[00:30:37] They took these
[00:30:41] applications, and the amounts there were also small, up to 500
[00:30:45] UAH. But the most interesting thing is that when
[00:30:48] journalists from the Skhemy project wrote to him in a messenger and asked: please tell us,
[00:30:52] what are you doing, and where do you have such
[00:30:55] money from? Why, why did you
[00:30:58] contribute for...