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[00:00:00] Estonia is experiencing a common tragedy, the wounds of which have not
[00:00:03] healed even after two decades. Who
[00:00:07] are these people who killed him, leaving
[00:00:10] a small child without a father, brothers and sisters
[00:00:13] without a brother? It's very difficult. This
[00:00:17] was a brutal murder, none of us
[00:00:20] live the life we had before all
[00:00:24] this. A brutal crime, as a result of which
[00:00:27] three people in the prime of their lives lost. Such
[00:00:36] cases that grip us, prosecutors, do not come across
[00:00:39] every day, but undoubtedly, this is one of the cases
[00:00:43] that we would very much like to investigate
[00:00:45] further.
[00:00:49] This is our small Estonia, and such a crime remained
[00:00:52] unsolved here. Unavoidably, the thought creeps in that perhaps
[00:00:56] they simply don't want to solve it.
[00:01:03] Tina and Urmas became the link between the two
[00:01:06] families. Urmas, who grew up in small Uhtna in a family with ten
[00:01:10] children, was the second son. From childhood, he loved military
[00:01:13] games, and therefore chose a career in the armed forces
[00:01:16] of the recently restored independent Estonian
[00:01:19] republic. He quickly became an officer, wrote
[00:01:23] many military textbooks, and became the acting
[00:01:26] head of the joint educational institution.
[00:03:30] evenings, they laughed, saying, "I'm like an adopted
[00:03:33] child, always coming to eat." The captain,
[00:03:37] who was 10 years older than Tina, was not free.
[00:03:40] Officially, he was married and had a four-year-old
[00:03:44] child at that time. In fact, Tina didn't
[00:03:47] like at all that all this was not finalized, and the fact that it was
[00:03:49] his official wife, the mother of his child, created big
[00:03:53] problems when Urmas wanted, for example, to see his
[00:03:56] daughter. So,
[00:04:00] there was tension, there was tension,
[00:04:04] yes, at that time Urmas was officially married, he had
[00:04:07] a child, yes, what did you think about him having
[00:04:10] a fiancée in Tartu? I can't say. He was
[00:04:14] very, very caring about his child, very caring, I
[00:04:18] understand. In fact, this is the life together of Urmas and
[00:04:22] Tina, they moved in together, right?
[00:04:23] daughter in Tartu for the duration of her
[00:05:00] studies. It is now
[00:05:03] known that Urmas had other relationships, and Tina
[00:05:07] had other admirers, but the young people remained on
[00:05:10] friendly terms.
[00:05:15] He was such a son who called every single
[00:05:18] day, every day, "It's me, Urmas, what
[00:05:22] are you doing, how are you, we'll build something." We talked
[00:05:25] a lot about politics and he said that when he
[00:05:29] finished his service in the army, he would definitely go into
[00:05:32] politics and defend large families,
[00:05:35] ah yes, such a plan was already in place, yes, he
[00:05:38] had a clear plan.
[00:05:41] The last time... relatives saw Urmas on Good Friday
[00:05:44] 2001, that is April 13, when
[00:05:48] he came home. At the same time, at Tina's parents' farm
[00:05:52] in Vlaiuz, they were celebrating both Easter and the birthday
[00:05:55] of her younger
[00:05:56] brother.
[00:06:01] That weekend, I was supposed to go to Tina's, we were supposed
[00:06:05] to do some chores and celebrate my brother's birthday. For some
[00:06:08] reason, I decided that this time... On Saturday evening, April
[00:06:47] 14th, Tina is at another
[00:06:51] friend's house on Jaama Street in Tartu, at a party
[00:06:55] where many young people come and this photo
[00:06:58] is taken. Despite the poor quality, this is the
[00:07:01] last known photograph with Tina. This
[00:07:05] was taken on the evening of April 14th. In light
[00:07:09] of subsequent events, it is extremely important that during that...
[00:08:12] and what's more important, there were Tina's driver's licenses,
[00:08:15] temporary licenses, which had the apartment address, so in theory
[00:08:19] someone took the keys and found out where these keys fit, right?
[00:08:23] Yes, yes, these driver's licenses we are
[00:08:27] talking about, from which the criminal hypothetically found out the
[00:08:30] address.
[00:08:33] Yes, that is, at that moment, along with everything else, Tina
[00:08:36] remained,
[00:08:39] jah, peale politseile helistamist öösel, siis... Yes, after
[00:08:43] calling the police at night, she waited until morning, then
[00:08:46] called her father. Her father had a spare key, she wanted
[00:08:50] her father to come to the city to change
[00:08:52] the locks.
[00:08:57] Actually, I was there, but I don't remember anymore, maybe she
[00:09:00] even called her mother, and her mother told her father.
[00:09:04] Of course, the parents were concerned that such an unpleasant
[00:09:07] story had happened, that someone might want to rob the apartment
[00:09:11] or something else. And then the father went there. Luckily,
[00:09:14] it happened that the mother did not
[00:09:17] go with him.
[00:09:22] It is now known that on Sunday morning, April 15, around
[00:09:26] 11:30, Elmo first arrived at Põllo
[00:09:30] Street, and entered the apartment with his own keys. Within
[00:09:33] an hour, Tina and Urmas, whom the girl had called,
[00:09:37] also arrived. After that,
[00:09:39] silence.
[00:09:43] it was like that, Elmo didn't answer calls, and we, of course,
[00:09:46] started finding out and calling, we called for a very long time, we called
[00:09:50] until our phones ran out of battery, all for nothing, no one
[00:09:54] answered, naturally, my mother and I went there, I
[00:09:57] think we scoured all the Tartu pubs, bars and
[00:10:01] restaurants, we thought of everything, where people could have
[00:10:04] disappeared.
[00:11:25] Yes, to which I looked at him like that, I always
[00:11:28] said that I would go inside, turn on the light, everything would
[00:11:32] be fine, kõik on siin
[00:11:34] hästi.
[00:11:42] And then, yes, I opened the door, turned on the light in
[00:11:45] the hallway, went to the room, it was Tina's
[00:11:48] room,
[00:11:51] then I turned left and saw the first body, Elmo.
[00:11:55] Elmo keha, see on, noh, nagu ikka šoki seisundis,
[00:11:58] nii-öelda nagu aeg
[00:11:59] luubis,
[00:12:03] everything is in slow motion, but you
[00:12:06] see everything familiar, sneakers, you recognize
[00:12:09] things, why them?
[00:14:55] korturis oli pilt,
[00:14:58] tavainimese jaoks ilmselt
[00:14:59] šokeeriv.
[00:15:03] shocking: a very beautiful, clean apartment, there is
[00:15:06] nothing that at first glance suggests that if you go further, you
[00:15:10] will see what you will see. At first glance,
[00:15:13] there is nothing there that usually characterizes a crime scene, a murder
[00:15:16] scene, signs of struggle, disorder. It felt
[00:15:19] as if the bodies had been moved here, brought from another
[00:15:23] place and placed in a clean apartment.
[00:16:07] tõenäoliseks, et Tartus eile hilisõhtul toime pandud kolmitmõrv
[00:16:11] on seotud ühe mõrvaohvri, Tartu kõrgema sõjakooli ülema
[00:16:14] kohuse täitja kapten Urmas Aal
[00:16:16] isikuga.
[00:16:24] Defense Forces, but most often they talk about the version
[00:16:27] of theft, the victims came at the moment when Tina's apartment
[00:16:31] was being searched, using stolen keys.
[00:16:33] this triple murder does not give
[00:18:37] the impression of a domestic quarrel or anything like that, I would
[00:18:41] use the word here: cleanly.
[00:18:44] The murder is committed, then he collects the cartridges, locks the door
[00:18:47] and leaves. Yes,
[00:18:50] this once again points to the characteristics of the personality, the nervous
[00:18:53] system, do not forget about fingerprints,
[00:18:57] DNA, well, almost nothing was left,
[00:19:01] most likely he was wearing gloves, or in
[00:19:04] gloves or was quite competent
[00:19:10] in the whole situation not to leave traces, and again, we did not exclude and could not exclude beforehand that this
[00:19:14] murder of a woman and men is not their
[00:19:17] first.
[00:19:23] Let's put this story on hold to continue next
[00:19:26] week. There are still many surprising twists. In search
[00:19:30] of the perpetrator, the police even used hypnosis and a lie
[00:19:33] detector. Justice is also being sought by the heroes of the next
[00:19:37] story. The beginning of the school year means a serious change
[00:19:40] in the usual rhythm, but this year the changes are especially
[00:19:43] noticeable. According to the government decree, based on scientific
[00:19:47] research, school lessons should start at 9:00
[00:19:50] AM. Reima Sildva conducted her small study
[00:19:54] and found that in almost half of the schools, this rule
[00:19:57] is being circumvented. In Kõrveküla, the situation reached a point
[00:20:01] where students' parents sued the local
[00:20:04] government.
[00:20:37] one thing is, of course, to create a precedent or at least show that
[00:20:41] it's not quite normal when somewhere they decide that a topic doesn't deserve
[00:20:44] attention, or that if the first difficulties arise, then the issue
[00:20:48] can simply be dropped.
[00:22:40] 33 do not want to and 33 who do not care
[00:22:43] at all. However, the survey presented by the deputy
[00:22:47] elder, an active group of parents, does not consider
[00:22:50] reliable. In this regard, 142 parents of the Kerveküla school
[00:22:54] signed a petition this spring, and 18
[00:22:57] of the most active ones went to the administrative
[00:23:00] court in early summer to force the school to start classes at
[00:23:04] 9:00 AM. As far as is known, they are the first and currently
[00:23:07] the only ones in Estonia who, according to their own words, went so
[00:23:11] far for the well-being of children. Both parents and the head
[00:23:15] of the Department of Preschool and Primary Education of the Ministry of Education and Science
[00:23:18] confirm that... modern scientific research
[00:23:21] supports a later start to school.
[00:23:25] We know, from decade to decade, from research to
[00:23:28] research, that a later start to the school day significantly
[00:23:32] leads to longer sleep for students. This result in scientific
[00:23:36] research is truly stable, and we also know well that
[00:23:39] longer sleep helps prevent many different
[00:23:43] health problems, both mental and physical health problems.
[00:23:46] In fact, this supports academic performance and physical activity.
[00:23:50] Sleep has a very, very positive effect on a child's well-being
[00:23:53] and health. We had a clinical psychologist
[00:23:57] speak at our school, talking about children and the development of the child's brain, and
[00:24:00] noted that initially children wake up easily until they
[00:24:04] reach adolescence, when all this brain
[00:24:07] chemistry, brain development, starts to change. And now, by
[00:24:11] the example of my eldest daughter, I see exactly this. If in
[00:24:14] the first grade it was still easy for her, now in early
[00:24:17] adolescence her rhythm has indeed changed, exactly
[00:24:21] as that clinical psychologist said, that is,
[00:24:25] it's harder to wake up in the morning, and she can't sleep in the evening. This
[00:24:28] affects her mood, it affects how easy or difficult it is to learn something,
[00:24:32] my son comes home and studies at home for a long time, precisely because he couldn't absorb the material at
[00:24:36] school in the first lessons, and not only in the first lessons, but in the following
[00:24:39] ones too. Fatigue doesn't come after the first lessons, if a child
[00:24:43] is chronically overtired, then this fatigue appears after lunch, and not
[00:24:47] only in the morning, it's not like we will survive the first lesson, but...
[00:25:50] the local government is somehow to blame for the child's need
[00:25:53] for sleep increasing or decreasing. Many
[00:25:56] people suggest a simple solution: let the child go to bed
[00:25:59] earlier. Well, that's not how it works.
[00:27:10] I completely agree that yes, starting classes at 9:00 could be
[00:27:14] good, children could indeed wake up, rest, and
[00:27:17] come to school refreshed, but then I get a bad
[00:27:21] feeling, what if the school day ends and the child goes to
[00:27:25] extra classes? For example, music school lessons
[00:27:28] last about the same amount of time as a regular lesson, 45 minutes.
[00:27:32] Sports training lasts an hour or two. Let's also factor in
[00:27:36] the commute home and back. Then I thought that such a child's
[00:27:40] active day already ends at 9 or 10
[00:27:43] o'clock. Therefore, I don't see that we are really
[00:27:46] thinking about the child's well-being or their mental
[00:27:50] health. So I rather see here that we are
[00:27:53] doing the children a disservice with this. Mina näen
[00:27:57] nagu hoopis seda, et sellega me teeme seda karuteenet
[00:28:00] lastele. back in July 2025, came into force
[00:28:02] this
[00:28:10] academic year, it still allows the school owner, if there are
[00:28:14] compelling reasons and after careful consideration,
[00:28:18] to make an exception and keep the earlier start time
[00:28:21] for classes. Thus, all schools had more than a year to
[00:28:25] prepare for the new academic year. According to the deputy
[00:28:28] elder of Volasti, the main issue is still network funding.
[00:29:32] start classes at 9:00, because it's a school of one community, there are
[00:29:36] its own small bus routes, parents themselves
[00:29:39] bring children from nearby areas, and there it is all
[00:29:43] possible to organize.
[00:29:47] At the request of an eyewitness, the Union of Estonian School Leaders conducted a quick survey among its
[00:29:51] members and received data from
[00:29:54] 122 schools. It was found that
[00:29:57] 54.5% of schools did not change the start time
[00:30:00] of classes for this academic year.
[00:30:02] Of the schools that responded, only thirty-one started classes at
[00:30:06] 9:00 AM. In 74 schools, the first
[00:30:09] bell rings at 8:30 AM or
[00:30:11] earlier.
[00:30:14] We also walked through the three largest cities in Estonia. Tallinn
[00:30:17] officially stated that out of 61 municipal
[00:30:20] schools, in more than half, specifically in twenty-six schools,
[00:30:24] classes start before 9
[00:30:26] o'clock. Out of 23 municipal schools
[00:30:29] in Tartu, in ten, classes start earlier.