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[00:00:11] Good morning, dear friends, I'm so glad it's
[00:00:14] Saturday, and I'm happy to be back in your friendly
[00:00:18] company. What was the Horizon program like this past week? We'll find out in
[00:00:22] the next half hour. My name is Alexander Zhemzhurov,
[00:00:24] let's go!
[00:00:30] September in Estonia is traditionally the month
[00:00:32] of sobriety. The state company
[00:00:35] Septa, that is, we don't drink in September, year after
[00:00:39] year calls for a month of abstaining from alcohol.
[00:00:42] However, on the streets of the capital, the idea of voluntary
[00:00:46] sobriety often evokes only a condescending
[00:00:49] smirk. Citizens find reasons to drink in
[00:00:53] abundance. There's currently a campaign: September, no alcohol. Have you not
[00:00:57] thought about joining? No, why? Well, September
[00:01:00] 1st was my birthday, Knowledge Day, yeah,
[00:01:04] that's it, and I'm
[00:01:08] already 61 this year, I don't care
[00:01:12] what's happening in this world, the main thing is to have peace
[00:01:15] of mind, that's it. Well, I'm
[00:01:18] such a person, sometimes I want to
[00:01:21] relax, and I don't drink, not
[00:01:25] ever. No, of course, sometimes I
[00:01:27] drink, but not today. Have you ever been to
[00:01:31] the Tallinn sobering center? Yes, I have, well,
[00:01:35] what, I don't hide it, but I don't really like it, but
[00:01:38] it's nice, they put you to sleep at 9:00, wake you up around
[00:01:42] 8:50 or 8:45,
[00:01:45] repeatedly. And how was it there? Not good at all, I
[00:01:48] didn't like it, why? Because it's bad to get caught.
[00:01:52] I was there, but I didn't like it, because
[00:01:55] the space is confined, you can't do what you want, you can't even go
[00:01:58] outside, if...
[00:02:30] In the admissions department, the first thing is a total inventory
[00:02:33] of belongings, the next door is the doctor's office,
[00:02:37] if blood pressure is off the charts or there's suspicion of
[00:02:40] a serious injury, an ambulance is called. If there's no threat
[00:02:44] to life, they send you straight to
[00:02:46] sobering up. Wow, but this is definitely some kind of
[00:02:50] prison, it might seem like a prison, but
[00:02:54] in reality it's not quite like that, in prison there are completely different
[00:02:57] requirements and conditions, and we have our own. So there
[00:03:01] is a difference, but yes, when we leave the doctor, we bring the
[00:03:04] person here and lead them to a cell,
[00:03:08] a cell. Conditions for intoxicated guests
[00:03:11] are noticeably ascetic. A washbasin, a toilet,
[00:03:15] a tiny window and no unnecessary
[00:03:18] furniture. You can only lie down on a special
[00:03:21] mattress. Ah, well, it looks clean,
[00:03:24] let's see how soft it is. Actually, quite a comfortable
[00:03:27] mattress. So, what?
[00:03:30] Let's climb in. This is how the client
[00:03:33] spends time until 12 o'clock, until they're completely
[00:03:37] sober. Overall, the conditions are good.
[00:03:40] A pass. The services of the Tallinn
[00:03:43] sobering center are completely free for
[00:03:46] residents, so some citizens
[00:03:49] use this service with enviable
[00:03:51] regularity.
[00:03:56] We joke among ourselves that if there's a loyalty program in retail.
[00:04:42] Under the influence of alcohol, a person often becomes
[00:04:45] the main threat to themselves.
[00:04:47] себя.
[00:04:49] Many people try to harm themselves or
[00:04:52] hang themselves here, they cling to this faucet, to any
[00:04:56] little thing. There were cases when they tightened their own shirt
[00:05:00] tightly around their throat. Unfortunately, after sobering up,
[00:05:03] they don't even remember why they did it. Such an incident
[00:05:07] happens stably
[00:05:08] once a month. Only for incomplete.
[00:06:17] Be healthy, happiness to you,
[00:06:20] good luck and live richly.
[00:06:23] The Tallinn sobering center was visited by Yulia Rostok and
[00:06:27] Vasily Zaretsky, specially for the Horizon
[00:06:29] program.
[00:06:38] How to become a model, and most importantly, is it worth it? We'll talk about this
[00:06:42] today. Our guest is Sophia Vender, welcome,
[00:06:45] glad to see you, hello. You were 16
[00:06:49] when you started your career. I'm afraid to ask how old you are today, because I think you look
[00:06:53] at least 18. How was it then and how different was that time from
[00:06:57] what we see today in 2026? When
[00:07:00] I was 16, that was 25 years ago. Let
[00:07:04] them calculate how old I am now.
[00:07:07] It wasn't like it is now, because back then mobile
[00:07:10] phones were just appearing, there were no...
[00:07:42] an agent who saw you and said: "Oh my god, we need
[00:07:46] this, this girl for Gucci," or I don't know, or do you submit your own
[00:07:49] portfolio, take pictures, then send them,
[00:07:53] how does this process look, where would you recommend
[00:07:55] starting? When I started
[00:07:58] 25 years ago, it was for me a very accidental free
[00:08:02] trip to Tallinn, I'm from Kohtla-Järve, and my friend and I were just walking
[00:08:07] and went into a modeling agency, and my modeling
[00:08:10] career started like that. In principle, now that everyone
[00:08:14] knows so much about the modeling business, of course, there are already professional scouts who
[00:08:18] look on the streets and so on. For example, my daughter has already been found
[00:08:22] twice in a shopping center, offered to become a model. Aha, so
[00:08:25] today it's absolutely normal if someone
[00:08:29] approaches you and gives you their business card. So in reality, that's also how it's done. I've just heard
[00:08:32] stories that the best models were found almost
[00:08:36] at bus stops, somewhere, yes. That's really true,
[00:08:40] really true, because often... a model doesn't know that she's
[00:08:43] beautiful, she herself won't come to a modeling agency. These are
[00:08:47] girls who - a kind of, maybe even somewhat humble
[00:08:50] appearance, thin, tall, that's not
[00:08:54] quite what boys like, so in principle, future
[00:08:57] models don't even realize that they could potentially be models.
[00:09:01] Models seem, to girls who are in school and are a bit curvy,
[00:09:05] boys like them, they think, well, these are the kind of models there should be. But in
[00:09:08] fact, these are girls literally at bus stops, in shopping centers or somewhere? Who are
[00:09:12] thin, tall, and they don't
[00:09:15] have, I don't know, lips done, they shouldn't have
[00:09:18] them done or something like that, well, something
[00:09:21] natural and unusual that attracts - ah, well,
[00:09:24] are there any, I don't know, golden standards, proportions?
[00:09:28] I remember it used to be very important, 90,
[00:09:31] 60, 90, today that no longer exists, or is there
[00:09:35] still some kind of, well, I don't know, golden ratio for models? I would say
[00:09:39] 90-60-90, that's even a bit plump
[00:09:42] girl - now, of course, everyone is thin.
[00:09:46] In my time, now we had, we remember such a body
[00:09:49] positivity movement, it seemed that plus-size models appeared
[00:09:53] and so on, well, as that movement appeared, it also went
[00:09:57] away, everyone is still thin now, well, I understand that you've been working
[00:10:01] as a model your whole life, and not only that, but that's another
[00:10:04] conversation. How difficult is this job? From the outside, it seems
[00:10:08] like a beautiful life, I travel, I'm beautifully photographed, is that really
[00:10:12] true? How difficult is it to be a model? For me, at
[00:10:15] some point, it really became too difficult, I got tired, I got tired
[00:10:18] of dieting, I got tired of endless flying, I got tired of
[00:10:22] loneliness, that I was always alone, tired of... this unclear
[00:10:25] schedule, you don't know when you'll have work, when you'll have
[00:10:29] money, or you, for example, start working very
[00:10:32] actively, then you work, for example, for several months in a row, you have no
[00:10:36] rest, and for me, this imbalance with health, the fact
[00:10:39] that I don't have a normal social life, friends, because
[00:10:42] I constantly have to fly, constantly being in the metro, then on
[00:10:46] the bus, then in a taxi, then,
[00:10:48] constantly, I still, for example, don't like staying in hotels, because
[00:10:52] hotels for me are associated with the modeling business, that you're always... some
[00:10:56] presentation, you're flying somewhere, for example, a presentation in
[00:11:00] Shanghai was amazing,
[00:11:02] you fly, it seems like an amazing hotel, five-star, you work, but
[00:11:06] you're in the hotel alone, you don't even have anyone to share your joy with,
[00:11:10] look, I'm in a hotel, what a cool hotel or a cool event,
[00:11:13] I worked, and you fly back, for example, to another
[00:11:16] country or you go, maybe I'm talking about some trivial
[00:11:19] problems, but it's tiring, and you're always
[00:11:22] alone, and you're always waiting. What did you manage to encounter in your
[00:11:26] practice? Well, for example, I remember very
[00:11:30] well, it was a show,
[00:11:33] a loving one, they lined us up like this and
[00:11:36] said: "You, you have ugly legs," and I only had one
[00:11:40] pair of jeans for this show, "you're canceled, you're leaving," and the girl
[00:11:44] from the line, for example, she's standing there with 35 people, she goes home,
[00:11:48] such a disgrace in front of everyone, "you have an ugly face, get
[00:11:51] out of here," well, like that, well, this is very rude,
[00:11:55] such an attitude like a hanger, well, like a lifeless
[00:11:59] person, in principle, when you are, there are models now,
[00:12:02] when they are made up, touched, it's not a living person, they can pull
[00:12:06] their hair and so on, it's
[00:12:09] it's difficult, but it pays off in the end.
[00:12:13] How well do models earn, if
[00:12:16] we take, again, my case at 16, when I had no
[00:12:20] education, no experience, nothing, and I suddenly
[00:12:23] started earning, for example, more than my parents, that's a wow effect,
[00:12:27] right? So I think for all the girls who start at 14 or something, they
[00:12:31] suddenly earn a lot of money, compared to
[00:12:33] others, and without having an education, experience, nothing, except essentially
[00:12:37] appearance. So if money is the priority, then
[00:12:40] undoubtedly it's worth doing, and it gives
[00:12:44] you, for me it was a big leap into a different
[00:12:47] life altogether. But how long-term is modeling
[00:12:51] as a process, so to speak? If we talk about...
[00:12:55] how long can you work as a model? Is it for life or does this
[00:12:59] job end at a certain period of a person's
[00:13:01] life? Well, you can really do it until the very
[00:13:05] end, and the further along the easier it might be in some sense,
[00:13:09] because there's less competition. When you're
[00:13:11] 14-16, everyone is thin
[00:13:13] and pretty,
[00:13:15] and there's a lot of competition. Well, and there's much more work accordingly. But there are also
[00:13:18] grandmothers seventy, eighty years old, and
[00:13:22] men, everyone. And I highly recommend to all
[00:13:25] my acquaintances, friends, of any appearance,
[00:13:29] any shape, I always say, for those who have a very strong urge,
[00:13:32] we have an amazing casting agency, and
[00:13:36] people of very different types
[00:13:39] and appearances are needed, and
[00:13:43] so on. People with tattoos and
[00:13:46] dreadlocks and with a bit of a belly,
[00:13:50] because advertisements are different. For example, some advertise beer,
[00:13:53] right, others...
[00:14:10] What do models do besides modeling work? I know that you made an excellent career as a lawyer,
[00:14:14] your friend is a chemist. What else do models do, what stories have
[00:14:17] you encountered in life? Those
[00:14:20] models who, so to speak, finish their career, or it's slower for them...
[00:14:26] at what speed does it move? For example, I continue to do this, but not
[00:14:30] as actively as before, of course, I'm not running to eight castings a day. Now
[00:14:34] I only do selective jobs. And
[00:14:37] my good model friends, with
[00:14:41] whom we started, one works as a psychologist with very difficult
[00:14:44] clients and handles it very
[00:14:48] well. Another opened a modeling agency
[00:14:51] and now acts as a modeling agent herself.
[00:15:07] Fossils of prehistoric marine animals lie right
[00:15:11] underfoot in the center of Tallinn, they are literally
[00:15:14] trampled every day by tourists who admire the beauty
[00:15:17] of the Town Hall. Minu isiklikult olen Tallinna
[00:15:20] vanalinnas.
[00:15:25] Imagine an ice cream cone, and this is its
[00:15:29] shell. Here, for example, on the slab, this fossil is clearly
[00:15:32] visible. These creatures inhabited the territory
[00:15:36] of Estonia for hundreds of millions of years. If
[00:17:42] you look closely, you can see tiny holes, in
[00:17:45] each of them lived a tiny creature. All this resembles a multi-apartment
[00:17:50] building, in which one family lived, although we don't know how
[00:17:54] harmoniously.
[00:18:03] Fossils are easier to find during rain, in damp conditions.
[00:19:38] obvious. Vladimir Kharchenko and Yury Zhiltsov looked for fossils in Tallinn,
[00:19:42] especially for the Horizon
[00:19:43] program.