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[00:01:01] New week, new beginning, hopefully
[00:01:05] everyone is in line. In the studio is Alexander Zhemzhurov, this is the Horizon program and we
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[00:01:15] today in the program Horizon. Chocolate and
[00:01:18] buns are not encouraged, dishes are almost not
[00:01:21] salted. We will talk about the peculiarities of modern school menus with
[00:01:24] nutritionist, Alexandra
[00:01:27] Gagen.
[00:01:40] About literary achievements, the art of translation and Russian literature
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[00:01:49] The inauguration of Yulia Madise took place, the head of state
[00:01:52] is forming her apparatus: in Estonia a new president has been elected,
[00:01:56] and the new president begins work with a new team. Who are these
[00:02:00] presidential advisers, what do they advise, we decided
[00:02:03] to ask them ourselves. Our reporter Artur
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[00:02:10] about the intricacies of their work.
[00:02:15] New requirements are being introduced in school canteens:
[00:02:18] less salt and less sugar. And now the cooks have started
[00:02:22] complaining that the food is becoming bland, and schoolchildren,
[00:02:25] imagine, even bring salt shakers from home
[00:02:29] and sprinkle a little salt on it themselves. We will discuss
[00:02:33] this topic today with a nutritionist, we have Alexander Gagin in the studio,
[00:02:36] hello, good evening, good evening, well whose side are you on, should food be tasty
[00:02:40] and salty, or should food be healthy and bland, food
[00:02:44] should be healthy and slightly salted, let's
[00:02:47] talk about the horrors of salt, why are we so afraid of it, what
[00:02:51] is its harm? In fact, we are afraid of an excess of salt,
[00:02:55] not salt as such, this is what we should really
[00:02:58] beware of. Because, unfortunately, an excess of salt, yes,
[00:03:02] it affects the body as a whole and the retention
[00:03:06] of fluid, it can affect the kidneys,
[00:03:09] people prone to higher arterial pressure
[00:03:12] will also, unfortunately, in this
[00:03:15] situation suffer somewhat, for example, the pressure on their kidneys will
[00:03:19] increase, that is, salt is a product that in
[00:03:22] fact is not an enemy to our body, not
[00:03:25] foreign, that is, if we compare it with other
[00:03:29] products, water salt is something that our body
[00:03:33] accepts as its own, everything else is already
[00:03:36] foreign, so salt in certain amounts
[00:03:40] helps the movement of fluid, for example, in tissues,
[00:03:43] why after we have eaten something sweet
[00:03:47] do we crave something salty, yes, very often
[00:03:50] such situations arise, because
[00:03:53] for - well, as a means of transport, let's
[00:03:56] say, for glucose,
[00:04:00] sugars, salt also, sodium can play a certain role, you
[00:04:04] should not be afraid of it, you should be friends with it, well,
[00:04:07] can you, let's say, slightly restructure yourself, re-educate yourself, I
[00:04:11] remember once I was on diets and also
[00:04:15] reduced salt, sugar, and after that
[00:04:18] any slightly salted thing seemed just oversalted to me,
[00:04:22] oversalted, yes, how difficult is it
[00:04:25] for a child, for example, to restructure their receptors, how long does this period
[00:04:28] take in time, well, it varies.
[00:05:00] There is quite a lot of salt in different
[00:05:03] semi-finished products, in sausages, in ham, in
[00:05:06] fast food, in different snacks, in chips, it
[00:05:10] is everywhere, that is, hidden salt is that which, well, we don't understand, right, that
[00:05:13] this food, but it is not sprinkled with salt, right, we don't visually
[00:05:17] see that salt is present, but we
[00:05:20] feel it, I know that you are a specialist in packaging,
[00:05:23] how to find this salt on the package, what to pay attention to, there are
[00:05:27] two places where the composition will be
[00:05:31] indicated on the package,
[00:05:33] one of them, one of these places, is a table with nutritional
[00:05:36] substances, the very bottom line in this table is always
[00:05:40] salt, that is, it indicates how much salt
[00:05:44] is contained per 100 grams of product, and
[00:05:47] there is also a list, it is usually written in lines like this, salt
[00:05:51] is also necessarily indicated there, and you should
[00:05:54] - well, it is desirable to choose products where salt will
[00:05:57] be placed well, literally at the end of this list
[00:06:00] of ingredients, that is, we look not at the amount, let's say,
[00:06:03] of salt, but so that it stands in this grid there and there - we
[00:06:07] look and in the list so that it is closer to the end, in
[00:06:11] the table we look at how much. Because the list shows us
[00:06:14] the product that is most
[00:06:17] involved, it is in the first place and goes in descending order, uh-huh,
[00:06:21] how much salt can you eat in a day, well, I understand that
[00:06:25] for each product there is as much salt as
[00:06:28] is necessary according to the recipe, well, how much can we, as humans, as a species,
[00:06:32] eat salt, there are norms, well, they are a bit floating, that is,
[00:06:36] I would say that adequate, well, it's about one teaspoon, uh-huh.
[00:06:40] Well, that's adequate, I understand that there are
[00:06:42] norms that give us a little more option,
[00:06:45] but still I would - not cross this
[00:06:49] line too much, well, can you, I don't know, if we ate
[00:06:52] too much salt, I don't know, well, they say if you ate a lot of sweets, go to
[00:06:56] the gym, then burn calories with salt, does it also work like that, I don't know, drink
[00:07:00] 2 liters of water, then can you somehow just expel it from the body,
[00:07:04] I wouldn't say that you need to go
[00:07:07] and wash it down with large amounts of water, you can
[00:07:11] slightly increase water intake relative
[00:07:14] to how much we drink, but the body in this situation,
[00:07:18] it can react differently, it can retain
[00:07:21] fluid, and it can, on the contrary,
[00:07:25] due to increased fluid, stimulate
[00:07:28] and excrete salt faster, here again we do not
[00:07:31] know how the body will react, but slightly
[00:07:34] increase water intake on that day, yes, of course, but it's better, of course,
[00:07:38] not to overeat salt, well, so that children don't take salt to school?
[00:07:42] What would you advise, what should they take with them for a snack, now this
[00:07:46] is one of the most important topics, healthy eating for children at school, what
[00:07:49] to pay attention to? Well, I would suggest
[00:07:52] that parents look at what
[00:07:56] the child eats as a whole, that is, let's start from home,
[00:08:00] look at what the child eats as a whole, how high is his
[00:08:03] habit of salty foods, some different
[00:08:07] snacks, what he snacks on the go
[00:08:10] after school, if he didn't have lunch, for example, at school, such a
[00:08:14] not very good situation happened, you can
[00:08:17] give a fruit that you don't need, for example, to peel in a difficult
[00:08:21] way, right, you can give nuts, please,
[00:08:25] which are not cooked in salt in sugar,
[00:08:28] but ordinary, well, slightly dried, for example,
[00:08:32] you can even give a sandwich, if the child can
[00:08:34] easily eat it, well, I won't
[00:08:38] say, you can't replace a school lunch with it,
[00:08:41] no, you can also look for more healthy
[00:08:45] bars, you can make these bars at home yourself,
[00:08:48] it's not that difficult to do, that is, well, a little bit, yes,
[00:08:52] pay attention - to the composition, of course,
[00:08:55] of products in the store, definitely pay attention, if we give
[00:08:59] some crackers, let's say, yes, plus or minus like oatmeal
[00:09:03] cookies or something like that, just look
[00:09:06] and dig a little deeper, see how much salt and sugar
[00:09:10] is contained there. Alexander, are there healthy chips,
[00:09:13] safe chips that even children can eat? Well, if
[00:09:17] we make them at home. Wow, or yes,
[00:09:20] in our supermarkets there are vegetable chips,
[00:09:23] almost without adding salt, but
[00:09:27] unfortunately, their price will be significantly higher than what
[00:09:30] children are usually used to, but you
[00:09:33] can try it, why not, at least little
[00:09:37] by little, little by little to reformat
[00:09:40] the child, so to speak. The Nobel Committee awarded
[00:10:14] Anne Carson for her bold and inventive creative
[00:10:17] search for new forms, now at the Toronto Public Library
[00:10:21] there is a queue for her books. The number of
[00:10:26] reservations for our copies of the book Autobiography
[00:10:29] of Red has sharply increased to more than
[00:10:32] 270 applications, and these are only paper
[00:10:36] books. We also have an e-book and an audiobook, now we
[00:10:40] are buying more copies to meet the demand.
[00:10:43] The writer herself avoids the press, when the Nobel Committee
[00:10:47] called her to congratulate her on the award, Carson
[00:10:50] said that she would now go for a walk in the forest so that they would
[00:10:54] not bother her.