FRANCE24 — broadcast 20260807 113000 UTC 436 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] 24. [00:00:09] Paris direct continues on France 24, welcome to all. Here are [00:00:12] the main headlines of today's news this Friday: Deadly shooting in [00:00:16] Thailand, an adolescent armed with a pistol killed his two [00:00:20] grandparents before going to his high school where he killed six [00:00:25] and a relaunch of the be remembered, is a member of more people, about fifteen people were injured, the prime minister laments [00:00:27] a terrible incident. [00:00:31] Perhaps the birth of a new diplomatic and strategic bloc, [00:00:34] Pakistan, Turkey and Saudi Arabia have just signed a mutual [00:00:38] precedent since Turkey defense agreement, an impact between major Sunni powers against a backdrop of war [00:00:42] against Shiite Iran. Mélina Uet will help us [00:00:45] understand the stakes of this summit in [00:00:48] Mecca. It's the beginning of a new era today in [00:00:52] Colombia, Abelardo de la Espriella will be officially [00:00:55] sworn in as president of the Republic of Colombia. Symbolically, the [00:00:59] ceremony will take place in Cali, a stronghold [00:01:01] There is another group called the of drug traffickers to whom the new head of state has declared war, [00:01:05] Jean-Louis Martin, a specialist in Latin America, will be with us to [00:01:08] explain what will happen on the very first day of this new presidential term. [00:01:26] How to explain this deadly team in Thailand, why? [00:01:30] An adolescent armed with a pistol killed eight people in [00:01:34] total, his own grandparents first, then six people at [00:01:37] his school near Bangkok, 15 people [00:01:41] were also injured, the shooter killed himself and according to the [00:01:45] Thai prime minister, he had clearly planned his [00:01:48] attack, details with Axel Simon. [00:01:52] Outside the school, crying teachers embraced, the [00:01:56] staff and students of this school in the Bangkok suburb [00:02:00] experienced a nightmare in broad daylight at school, a 14-year-old [00:02:03] adolescent opened fire, killing several people and injuring about fifteen before [00:02:07] committing suicide, some students and teachers managed [00:02:10] to lock themselves in the classrooms, others tried to hide or [00:02:14] flee, [00:02:17] found refuge in the toilets, we thought it was over, [00:02:21] then a teacher shouted run fast, the shooter went to another [00:02:24] building and ran [00:02:26] here, when I was... [00:02:32] there it was total chaos, the students we took care of outside were injured in the back, [00:02:35] chest and arm, we gave them [00:02:38] I could write 10,000 words about FIFA's problems, but the solution is only in first aid, the shooter was still active at that [00:02:41] moment. According to the police, the shooter is one [00:02:45] of the school's students, he fired more than twenty bullets with a pistol [00:02:50] a complete overhaul of FIFA's governance. belonging to his grandfather and was [00:02:51] January there was a source close to found in possession of about thirty additional ammunition. The police [00:02:54] specified that the shooter had killed his [00:02:57] investors, Gianni Infantino has grandparents at their home before going to his school and opening [00:03:00] fire, I am deeply pained, not [00:03:04] only for the victims, but also to see that such an incident can [00:03:07] occur in our country. This is the [00:03:10] reason why the government has not authorized the extension of the right to own [00:03:13] firearms, it is exactly for this [00:03:16] reason. [00:03:19] The political commitments of recent years to toughen legislation on [00:03:24] too, is someone who comes from gun ownership have not prevented a multiplication of shootings. [00:03:27] It is estimated that there are more than 10 million firearms in circulation in [00:03:30] Thailand, or one for every seven inhabitants. This is the [00:03:34] second deadly school shooting [00:03:37] quite easily with people from in Thailand this year. In 2022, a former police officer had [00:03:40] also killed 36 people in a daycare center in the north of the country, [00:03:43] most of whom were [00:03:46] has not delegated the management of children. [00:03:48] big guest confronted with the burning topic of The pact was signed just [00:03:50] current events in the 27 countries of a few minutes ago. Gathered [00:03:52] of economics, in Mecca, representatives of Turkey, Pakistan and [00:03:54] Saudi Arabia signed a [00:03:57] four corners of the world, these players of defense agreement. Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the Prime Minister, [00:04:00] Pakistani Shebaz Sharif and Saudi Crown Prince [00:04:05] delegate the management of Mohammed Bin Salman signed the text in Mecca, [00:04:07] an event likely to give birth [00:04:09] you for being with us, here are the headlines to a new diplomatic and strategic bloc as the war [00:04:12] between the United States and Iran reshuffles regional [00:04:15] balances. Mélanie Huette, Mélina Huette [00:04:18] pardon, you are an international columnist and senior reporter for [00:04:22] France 24, you will help us see things more clearly, first [00:04:25] what is in this text, Mélina? So according to the joint [00:04:29] declaration of the three countries, it provides that any armed attack [00:04:32] against one of them will be considered as an attack against the [00:04:36] three, in fact it is a collective defense [00:04:38] clause which, in its very wording, [00:04:42] in fact, is like Article 5, for example, of the North Atlantic Treaty [00:04:46] of NATO. In fact, the text extends to Turkey a pact that [00:04:50] control of the had already been concluded almost a year ago, now it was in September 2025 between Riyadh and [00:04:54] Islamabad and which already laid down this formula, so we can talk about a new alliance [00:04:58] but in fact it is rather the... [00:05:00] the enlargement, pardon, of a pre-existing alliance and then there is something [00:05:04] interesting, it's a bit like Ankara's after-sales service which is almost as [00:05:07] instructive as the agreement itself, a Turkish official quoted by [00:05:11] Reuters specifies three things. The pact is purely [00:05:14] defensive, so it does not target any particular actor and remains [00:05:18] open to other countries in the region and above all what [00:05:21] this official adds is that the agreement does not abrogate or [00:05:24] replace any existing commitment, whether bilateral [00:05:28] or multilateral. In fact, who is this [00:05:31] clarification addressed to? Well, to Brussels and to Washington, why? Because Turkey, it must [00:05:37] NATO and so one could question the compatibility of the [00:05:40] two commitments. Imagine that... tomorrow NATO is at war [00:05:44] against Pakistan, what does Turkey do in that case? Well, [00:05:47] there is a [00:05:51] joined NATO in 1952 and in 1955 the [00:05:54] Baghdad Pact was signed which already [00:05:58] linked Turkey to other countries including [00:06:01] Pakistan. One more thing to remember: Pakistan [00:06:04] is the only Muslim country to possess nuclear [00:06:07] weapons. So Mélina, can we really [00:06:11] talk about... the creation of a Sunni bloc which [00:06:14] would therefore constitute a defense axis against [00:06:18] Shiite Iran? Well, it is true that presented like that and with [00:06:22] the forces present we would be tempted to say so but the map you are going to see on [00:06:25] the screen shows precisely why this reading does not stand [00:06:29] up to the test of facts. In fact, what you see here are [00:06:32] two pieces of information, two superimposed pieces of information. The [00:06:35] background color indicates the majority confession of the population, [00:06:39] pay attention, the border indicates the alignment of the power in place. In fact, when... [00:06:42] look at Syria for example, it is predominantly Sunni with a [00:06:45] border on the Riyadh side, except that until December 2024, as you know, the same map would [00:06:49] have shown it with this border, on the Tehran side since the [00:06:53] country was governed by an Alawite minority, therefore Shiite. [00:06:57] The population has not changed, the power has. It's the same for [00:07:00] Bahrain. In fact, zoom in a little to show you, it presents the [00:07:03] inverse configuration with a population that is predominantly Shiite, but a monarchy that [00:07:07] is aligned with Riyadh. In fact, what unites the three countries [00:07:11] that have signed this agreement in Mecca today can be seen [00:07:15] elsewhere on this map, it's on the red dots that you see scattered everywhere. For [00:07:19] example, Saudi Arabia finds itself caught [00:07:22] in a vise on its two maritime fronts, on one side to [00:07:25] the east, the Strait of Hormuz, as you know, locked down since the beginning of the [00:07:29] American and Israeli [00:07:31] war against Iran, to the west, descending [00:07:35] towards Marib, there is the resumption of the Yemeni conflict with tools that [00:07:39] target Saudi ships in the Red Sea and then we recall that the tools... well, [00:07:42] they are proxies of Iran, hence this initiative in fact which was [00:07:46] launched by Riyadh a week ago to secure [00:07:50] precisely the Red Sea, Bab el-Mandeb and the Gulf of Aden, [00:07:53] 14 countries have joined it, including Turkey [00:07:57] and Pakistan, that is to say the two guests of the day, and then a small [00:08:00] clue to finish, in [00:08:04] the Saudi army who assured our AFP colleagues that Ankara [00:08:07] would not join this alliance, 7 months later [00:08:10] Turkey. is at the table, thank you [00:08:14] Mélina Huette, international columnist, senior reporter on [00:08:17] France, thank you for all these lines of [00:08:20] thought. So a page turns in [00:08:24] Colombia, today Cabellardo de la [00:08:27] Espriella will officially assume the role of [00:08:31] head of state, elected on June 21st, the millionaire [00:08:34] ultra-right lawyer will be sworn in, for once, the [00:08:38] ceremony will take place, not in Bogota, the capital. [00:08:44] but in Cali, the country's third largest city and incidentally a stronghold of [00:08:47] drug traffickers to whom the new president has declared war [00:08:50] with the support of Washington, the explanations of Romain [00:08:53] Michelot: [00:08:56] patrols everywhere in Cali, the 3rd city of [00:08:59] Colombia, it is here under high security that the [00:09:02] inauguration of the new far-right president-elect Abelardo de la [00:09:06] Espriella takes place. More than 1100 men and women have been [00:09:10] deployed here with drones. Anti-drone [00:09:12] system, armored vehicles and all the [00:09:16] necessary equipment for this democratic event to take place [00:09:19] peacefully. Ordinarily, this inauguration of the [00:09:23] Colombian president takes place in the capital, Bogota, but not [00:09:26] with Abelardo de la Espriella. The millionaire [00:09:29] lawyer, new to politics, chose Cali where attacks [00:09:33] claimed by guerrillas recently occurred, a symbol, because the [00:09:37] new president promises a strong approach to fight against these armed [00:09:40] groups and drug trafficking. Bombings against the camps of these [00:09:44] organizations or even the creation of mega-prisons like in [00:09:47] El Salvador, a program reiterated since his election last [00:09:51] June and contrary to his left-wing predecessor Gustavo [00:09:54] Petro who had tried to negotiate the disarmament of these armed [00:09:57] groups. There will be no false peace process, the only peace [00:10:01] possible is that imposed by arms. Any bandit who does not submit will [00:10:05] be eliminated. I have foreseen this. For this, [00:10:08] Colombia can count on the support of the United States and Israel, whose [00:10:12] representatives will be present at the inauguration ceremony, [00:10:16] but these very strong statements also worry a part of the [00:10:19] population. [00:10:22] According to these announcements, we can clearly see that he will be... a rather [00:10:26] authoritarian leader, [00:10:28] I just hope there will be no violence, new violence within the [00:10:32] population, [00:10:34] a challenge, because according to the Peace Foundation, in [00:10:37] 2025, Colombia had nearly 25,000 armed people [00:10:41] within illegal organizations. [00:10:45] So what will happen on the very first day of this new presidential [00:10:49] term? We will ask Jean-Louis [00:10:52] Martin, economist and specialist in Latin [00:10:55] America at Ifri, the French Institute of International Relations, hello and thank you for accepting [00:10:59] France 24's invitation. First of all, do you agree [00:11:03] that the choice of Cali [00:11:06] for the inauguration ceremony is not an innocent [00:11:09] choice? [00:11:12] No, I think there can be two explanations. [00:11:16] Albert is a provincial from the coast [00:11:19] and that is a region that has given relatively few [00:11:23] presidents to Colombia, so there is a kind of [00:11:25] almost identity [00:11:28] claim in having chosen [00:11:31] to organize this inauguration in the [00:11:34] provinces. Afterwards, there may also be a provocative side, which is [00:11:37] that Cali is a city that, during the last [00:11:40] elections, voted rather for his [00:11:44] opponent, so it is also perhaps a kind of marking of the [00:11:47] territory. Jean-Louis Martin, the Colombian authorities announced [00:11:51] yesterday that they had found a bus loaded with explosives, which would have been [00:11:55] prepared to target precisely the president-elect. Does this [00:11:59] foreshadow a rather tense start to the [00:12:02] term from a security [00:12:04] point of view? [00:12:08] probably because he [00:12:11] is clear that the [00:12:15] armed opposition [00:12:17] forces in the [00:12:20] countryside will not remain inactive, [00:12:24] because he has directly threatened [00:12:27] them and he has very [00:12:31] concretely threatened to use a strong hand against [00:12:34] them. They will react and their priority [00:12:38] is to maintain territorial control because they need [00:12:41] that for coca production, for transformation into [00:12:45] cocaine and then in their spare time to do [00:12:49] a bit of extortion from the local population, merchants, etc. [00:12:52] So yes, he will oppose them. [00:12:55] and they will probably react [00:12:58] and certainly in part through [00:13:01] attacks or attempted attacks like that. So we [00:13:05] see in the images that accompany your words [00:13:09] that Abelardo de la Espriella [00:13:12] always appears behind armored glass, he is always accompanied by [00:13:16] heavily armed guards with [00:13:20] bulletproof shields. [00:13:24] Can we say that he is a target today? [00:13:28] Politics is a dangerous [00:13:30] profession in Colombia. There have been several [00:13:33] prominent leaders who have been assassinated, the [00:13:37] last one was Miguel [00:13:39] Uribe last year in 2025, [00:13:42] who was at [00:13:44] the time the main right-wing candidate [00:13:47] for this year's presidential elections, [00:13:50] so yes... he [00:13:54] but like almost all Colombian politicians, [00:13:57] he has a target on his back. Yes, Abelardo de la [00:14:01] Espriella, who has received Donald Trump's support, [00:14:04] intends to align himself with the American administration [00:14:08] in the war on drugs. What [00:14:12] is the risk for Colombians, this time not for him, [00:14:16] of seeing an open war break out with drug [00:14:19] traffickers? [00:14:21] Well, it is quite likely that violence will increase in the short [00:14:25] term because, as I told you, these armed groups, which are pure [00:14:29] narcos now, that is to say that there is [00:14:32] no longer anything political in this opposition, it [00:14:36] was still possible to negotiate a political [00:14:39] agreement around 2015-2016 and that is [00:14:42] what Santos did at the time, which led to the Havana [00:14:45] agreement with the FARC guerrilla, [00:14:49] even though the FARC themselves had also deviated quite a bit in the production of... [00:14:53] at that time it was still possible to talk politics with [00:14:56] them, that's no longer the case at all, we're dealing with [00:14:59] simple armed gangs who have territorial [00:15:03] control in certain regions and it is [00:15:06] likely that Deslaspira [00:15:09] will concentrate his forces in [00:15:11] these regions to regain [00:15:15] territory, it's a bit contradictory with what [00:15:18] he says elsewhere because if [00:15:21] the armed groups are strong in certain regions, it's [00:15:25] precisely because the state is rarely there, and he [00:15:28] explains that he wants to both reconquer these [00:15:31] territories but [00:15:34] reduce the size of the state by 40 %, yet the Colombian state is [00:15:38] not an omnipresent state, to say the least, [00:15:41] meaning it is a large country with a complicated [00:15:44] geography, but there are many regions of the country where the state is rather [00:15:48] conspicuous by its absence, and therefore his desire to [00:15:52] massively reduce, since his [00:15:55] model is Miley in Argentina, to massively [00:15:58] reduce public spending, is a bit [00:16:01] contradictory with his idea of regaining control of the territory. [00:16:05] So, the president-elect has given one [00:16:08] month to the FARC rebels to lay down their arms. What you are saying is that he [00:16:12] has little chance of winning the showdown that he himself [00:16:15] initiated? No, not within a month, [00:16:18] these people are not going to give in, so you mentioned the [00:16:22] FARC rebels, indeed, the opponents, there [00:16:26] are two, three main groups, [00:16:30] there are FARC dissidents who refused the peace agreement in [00:16:33] 2016 or who accepted it and then changed their minds. [00:16:39] ELN which has a long tradition, [00:16:42] but a very distant tradition, because as I said, there is nothing political left in their actions or their [00:16:46] claims, they no longer make any political speeches. So [00:16:49] this group is called the ELN, and it is a national [00:16:53] liberation army, and then there is another group called the Gulf [00:16:56] Clan, which also has no [00:17:00] political agenda, but is a simple grouping [00:17:03] of drug mafias. So, [00:17:07] none of the three will give in so easily to simple [00:17:10] threats, they will resist, there will be [00:17:13] attacks and so I think that in the short term, [00:17:17] the Colombian population will have a bad [00:17:19] time. After that, I'm not saying that he's completely [00:17:23] wrong because the [00:17:26] objective, the discourse of total peace through [00:17:29] negotiations by the outgoing president Gustavo Petro was [00:17:33] also an illusion, meaning that there was really not much to negotiate with [00:17:37] these people. Since the only thing that interests them, as I told you, is territorial [00:17:40] control, which is something that a state will certainly [00:17:44] not accept. Jean-Louis Martin, you [00:17:48] mentioned the alignment of the [00:17:51] Colombian president-elect with the Argentinian Javier [00:17:54] Milei. The program he put forward [00:17:57] foresees 40% savings and 7% [00:18:01] annual growth. Do you believe that this [00:18:03] is realistic? [00:18:05] No, it is not realistic. That is the short answer. After [00:18:09] that, he needs to do something about public [00:18:12] finances. One of the problems in Colombia is not just [00:18:16] the narcos, it's that public finances have seriously [00:18:19] deteriorated during the Petro government, [00:18:22] not at the beginning, it was quite well managed, but the [00:18:25] last two or three years, the first year was [00:18:29] fine and then it really went off track. He has a [00:18:31] budget deficit that must be something like [00:18:34] around 7% of GDP, he needs to do something very [00:18:38] quickly and in fact he will govern [00:18:41] with the traditional right, he has chosen as [00:18:44] vice-president someone who was [00:18:47] Minister of Finance under Ivan Duque, who was the [00:18:51] conservative president before [00:18:54] Petro and he has in his government [00:18:56] several, for example his Minister of Finance [00:19:02] the traditional right, it's something quite classic in Latin America, [00:19:06] we see it in Brazil with [00:19:09] Bolsonaro where in fact he governs [00:19:14] the traditional right, the exception there is perhaps Milei [00:19:18] who also governs with people from the traditional right, but to whom he [00:19:23] the economy to this traditional right because he [00:19:27] has his own ideas in terms [00:19:30] like Bolsonaro, he has absolutely [00:19:33] none, it's not at all his field of expertise, [00:19:37] so he will [00:19:42] the economy in large part, I think, to his [00:19:45] vice-president and his Minister of Finance. So to [00:19:49] continue in the same vein, to return to your question, pardon [00:19:52] me, it's not realistic because it already has a weak [00:19:56] state, so it certainly has savings to make, [00:20:00] abuses of corruption to eliminate, [00:20:04] I'm not sure he'll do much better than his predecessors on these plans. And [00:20:07] yet he announces a reduction in social services, a decrease in [00:20:11] public programs, should we conclude that the daily life of [00:20:14] Colombians will significantly change in the [00:20:17] future? [00:20:20] He has efficiency gains to make, for example, [00:20:23] in the health sector, he has [00:20:26] other things that would require more investment and more people, [00:20:30] such as in justice and police, we don't [00:20:34] really see where [00:20:36] he will find massive savings, in any [00:20:40] case, 40 % of central government [00:20:43] public spending less is a total [00:20:46] illusion unless it's a trap because on the other [00:20:50] hand, he also explains that he wants to delegate a certain number [00:20:53] of functions to the Colombian [00:20:57] departments since it is organized into departments in Colombia [00:21:01] as well. But [00:21:03] I don't know where these departments will [00:21:07] get the resources. So he talks [00:21:10] about accelerated growth, new resources, [00:21:15] exploitation of natural resources, particularly [00:21:18] oil. That won't go far simply for a [00:21:21] physical reason, which is that Colombia has only [00:21:25] a few mineral resources, [00:21:28] it is quite well endowed with coal, but [00:21:32] that is a little more complicated to sell, even if it is very [00:21:35] good quality coal, Colombian coal, but oil [00:21:39] will not work miracles. Thank you [00:21:42] Jean-Louis Martin, thank you for answering France's questions, I remind you that you are [00:21:46] an economist and specialist in Latin America at Ifri. [00:21:50] We were talking about Argentina, the country was the scene of violent [00:21:54] hours, look at these images, we are in Buenos Aires and [00:21:58] the police intervened to disperse protesters who [00:22:01] were marching in front of the Senate, tear gas [00:22:05] and water cannons against Jettepierre, Argentinian [00:22:07] media reported two injured in the police ranks, one injured on the [00:22:11] protester side, it is a bill initiated by Javier Milei that set the [00:22:15] powder on fire, it notably provides for the facilitation of land [00:22:18] expulsions and is therefore part of the ultra-liberal logic [00:22:21] driven by the head of state, the text is being examined by the [00:22:25] Senate and it is also an opportunity for some to criticize the link between [00:22:28] the Milei administration and Washington, as you can see, the American [00:22:32] flag was [00:24:25] country, a renaissance for these [00:24:29] takeover in [00:25:02] who passed oppressive laws against women and banned [00:25:06] them from playing football, so they have a message to convey: [00:25:10] I want to use this platform to defend the cause of [00:25:13] women in Afghanistan who have been banned from studying for 5 [00:25:17] years. 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Symbolically, the [00:30:54] ceremony will take place in Calli, a stronghold of drug traffickers to whom the [00:30:58] new head of state has...