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[00:00:06] Hello everyone, welcome to France 24. It is 3 PM in Paris,
[00:00:10] time to take a tour of the world news. First, the
[00:00:13] death toll is rising in Ukraine, with four dead in the
[00:00:16] massive bombardments overnight on Kyiv and its region. Volodymyr
[00:00:20] Zelensky denounced the use of ballistic missiles against
[00:00:24] civilian infrastructure. Moscow claims responsibility for the attacks but says it can
[00:00:27] target a fuel depot
[00:00:30] and an arms factory. These attacks come as the
[00:00:33] Ukrainian president makes his first visit to Serbia,
[00:00:37] an ally of Russia.
[00:00:39] Tension is rising between
[00:00:42] Madrid and Rome. Spain announced it would implement border
[00:00:45] controls for travelers from Italy, a retaliatory measure
[00:00:49] similar to the one Rome had introduced following the
[00:00:53] Ceuta crisis. And then these first testimonies
[00:00:55] collected in Nigeria. Last
[00:00:58] Thursday, more than 300 people were released after kidnappings
[00:01:02] in two northern states of the country last February. Among them
[00:01:06] are children who, as you will see, recount the ordeal they
[00:01:09] endured for months.
[00:01:11] decontamination is technically The death toll is therefore rising in Ukraine, with four dead in new
[00:01:14] massive bombardments on the
[00:01:20] of thousands of deaths also.
[00:01:28] capital, Kyiv, and its region. The toll was given this
[00:01:32] afternoon by President Volodymyr Zelensky, who
[00:01:35] denounced the use of ballistic missiles against civilians.
[00:01:39] For its part, Moscow claimed its attacks, but said it had
[00:01:43] targeted a fuel depot and an arms factory. Listen to
[00:01:46] the testimony of residents in Kyiv
[00:01:49] it is absolutely essential woken up by the sound of bombs. There was a terrible explosion. The
[00:01:53] crash was so violent that it sounded like the device was falling into the
[00:01:55] yard, and that's exactly where
[00:01:57] it landed. For now, we are walking
[00:02:00] in the neighboring house, our doors and windows were blown
[00:02:03] open. I immediately checked if my husband
[00:02:06] twice the annual budget of the was alive, because she was in another room. We went out and everything had already
[00:02:10] burned. My husband rushed to fetch water to extinguish the fire
[00:02:13] but in vain. The neighbors came out to try to save a
[00:02:17] young child but they couldn't find him.
[00:02:21] forces rescued 308 people And then we learned late this morning that a drone that entered
[00:02:24] Bulgaria this Saturday morning
[00:02:26] on the subject that the exploded near the border with Romania and especially
[00:02:30] near a gas pipeline that
[00:02:33] connects Turkey to Ukraine, passing, as you can see on this map,
[00:02:37] through the Balkans. The device was carrying a large quantity
[00:02:40] of explosives according to the Bulgarian authorities, who say they have
[00:02:46] with the participation once no information for the moment on the origin of the device. No
[00:02:49] victim has been reported. In the rest of the European news, the
[00:02:53] diplomatic standoff is intensifying between Madrid and
[00:02:57] Rome. Spain announced that it will introduce temporary border controls
[00:03:00] in its ports and
[00:03:03] bad communication from some airports for travelers from Italy. A retaliatory measure
[00:03:07] similar to the one Rome had imposed on Spain following the massive
[00:03:10] influx of migrants into the enclave of Ceuta. The weather is stormy
[00:03:14] between the two European allies, Alice Broga.
[00:03:17] A new confrontation between Madrid and Rome on the migration issue.
[00:03:21] Travelers from Italy will be controlled upon their arrival in Spain
[00:03:24] at ports and airports, from Saturday midnight until
[00:03:27] September 7. Madrid thus states that it wants to cope
[00:03:30] with the persistence of irregular migratory pressure suffered by
[00:03:34] but obviously it's a serious Italy, a way of
[00:03:35] problem, the epiphas for passing the buck to Rome, which used the same argument to
[00:03:39] implement border controls for travelers coming from
[00:03:42] Spain. Last July 31, the Italian
[00:03:45] far-right Prime Minister Georgia Meloni had announced
[00:03:48] the suspension until August 15 of the Schengen agreement
[00:03:51] on free movement with this country. A measure taken
[00:03:55] after 72,000 migrants crossed the border between Morocco and
[00:03:58] the Spanish enclave of Ceuta in North Africa last week.
[00:04:01] According to the Spanish government, 70,000 migrants have now returned to
[00:04:04] Morocco, but hundreds of unaccompanied children have remained in Ceuta.
[00:04:07] Some are being registered with the
[00:04:10] a tour of the world of Spanish police. Morocco says
[00:04:12] and instead we import it is ready to cooperate with Spain for their repatriation. The figure I can give you at this
[00:04:16] stage is that
[00:04:19] a lawyer, I am very much in favor of the application of 1342 boys and
[00:04:20] responsibility, very much in favor of girls have been registered and integrated into the reception
[00:04:23] system. The process continues, of course, the situation has been
[00:04:27] complex due to the volume of arrivals and a certain overpopulation,
[00:04:31] but things are gradually returning to normal. According to the
[00:04:34] Minister of Youth, some minors
[00:04:36] will be transferred to less saturated reception centers in the
[00:04:39] Spanish peninsula in the coming weeks.
[00:04:42] Donald Trump has his man at the head of American justice.
[00:04:45] Tote Blanche, his former personal lawyer, was
[00:04:49] confirmed by a very narrow majority by the American Senate, 50 votes
[00:04:53] to 49. Two Republican senators voted against the
[00:04:56] appointment of Donald Trump's trusted man, who
[00:05:00] notably helped make the Justice Department an extension of the
[00:05:03] White House. I acted under the direction of the president,
[00:05:07] notably declared the one who was Pam Bondi's deputy in recent
[00:05:10] years, the former Minister of Justice, thanked after her
[00:05:14] handling of the Epstein case. Since then, Blanche has been
[00:05:18] acting as interim. He has notably initiated many lawsuits against
[00:05:21] Donald Trump's presumed enemies, causing massive
[00:05:25] departures of career prosecutors. American justice,
[00:05:29] however, is not yet entirely in Donald Trump's hands. The
[00:05:32] District of Columbia Court of Appeals confirmed the suspension
[00:05:36] of the White House ballroom project. The work had been
[00:05:39] stopped by a judge last April for lack of congressional approval.
[00:05:43] A national disgrace... will the White House ballroom
[00:05:46] ever come out of the ground? This project, dear to
[00:05:49] Donald Trump, whose construction began at the end of 2025,
[00:05:53] has just been blocked again by American justice. The District
[00:05:56] of Columbia Court of Appeals confirmed a decision from last
[00:06:00] April: the work must stop because it was started without
[00:06:04] congressional approval, essential for such a project
[00:06:07] at the White House. A new setback for Donald Trump, who
[00:06:10] defends this project tooth and
[00:06:16] nail. This decision, taken while a large part of the work
[00:06:19] has already been completed and paid for, constitutes a
[00:06:23] threat to national security of the utmost gravity.
[00:06:26] It is also a national disgrace. We will immediately
[00:06:30] appeal this decision before the Supreme Court of the United
[00:06:33] States. This ballroom, more than 8300 square meters with a
[00:06:36] capacity of 1000 people, is financed by private funds,
[00:06:40] according to the American president, but the budget has already
[00:06:43] soared from 200 to 400 million dollars today.
[00:06:46] Donald Trump justifies this project and assures that the
[00:06:50] building will contain other military defense devices,
[00:06:53] but it is highly criticized. The National Trust for Historic
[00:06:55] Preservation, an NGO for the preservation of historic
[00:06:59] buildings, contested it in court. The Democratic opposition
[00:07:02] makes it the symbol of the president's ego.
[00:07:06] These are projects dictated by vanity, and the president
[00:07:09] would literally spend 70% of his time on them. The
[00:07:13] president is a very busy person, he has many things to pay
[00:07:16] attention to, including the war in Iran. This project is also
[00:07:20] not unanimous within the Republican party. Donald Trump's
[00:07:22] government now has 14 days to appeal before the US
[00:07:25] Supreme Court. These are the first testimonies
[00:07:29] reaching us from Nigeria. Last Thursday, the country's security
[00:07:34] kidnapped during separate attacks in two northern states
[00:07:37] of Nigeria. Among them were children. Today, the survivors
[00:07:40] recount the ordeal they
[00:07:42] endured during captivity, since their kidnapping last
[00:07:46] February. Axel Simon, women and children still
[00:07:49] traumatized. They were rescued on Thursday by Nigerian
[00:07:52] security forces and are now waiting to return home.
[00:07:56] They were among the 308 people kidnapped last February in
[00:07:59] two northern states of Nigeria.
[00:08:02] Today, some testify to the ordeal they went through.
[00:08:06] Every time a plane approached, they ordered us to turn off the fires
[00:08:09] we had lit and to keep absolute silence so as not to
[00:08:13] be spotted. They didn't always give us food. We
[00:08:16] and our children went to bed with empty stomachs. There
[00:08:20] were sick people among us. Several pregnant women gave
[00:08:23] birth during our captivity. For the families of the hostages,
[00:08:25] it's finally a relief after 6 months of anxiety.
[00:08:29] "We couldn't sleep or eat, our thoughts were
[00:08:33] monopolized by worry, especially for the children."
[00:08:36] The 308 victims had been held captive since February
[00:08:39] following several deadly attacks by armed groups in two
[00:08:43] northern states of the country, like this one in Kwara state
[00:08:45] during which more than 170
[00:08:48] people were killed and the village reduced to ashes.
[00:08:52] The vast rescue operation on Thursday was carried out
[00:08:55] jointly by the armed forces, intelligence services, and
[00:08:58] police. Everyone was rescued alive. As you can see, there
[00:09:02] are only children and women here today, about forty are
[00:09:06] still in the hospital.
[00:09:08] Nigeria is struggling to contain armed attacks and kidnappings
[00:09:14] perpetrated by armed groups and jihadists who spread terror.
[00:09:17] The Nigerian president had
[00:09:19] attributed responsibility for the
[00:09:21] main attack in February to the Islamist movement Boko Haram,
[00:09:25] a term also used. France 24,
[00:09:29] LCP, public senat presents,
[00:09:33] thank you for joining us in Brussels at the European
[00:09:37] Parliament. We breathe, drink and ingest daily
[00:09:40] harmful microparticles for our health. These are
[00:09:43] epiphas or eternal pollutants, used for their non-stick
[00:09:46] properties, their resistance to
[00:09:49] water or heat. Epiphas are in fact omnipresent in
[00:09:53] the products we use, cosmetics, kitchen utensils, to clothing.
[00:09:57] 10,000 substances of this type are listed. They take
[00:10:00] a very long time to decompose, are not recyclable, hence their
[00:10:03] common name of eternal pollutant. And last March, a report by the
[00:10:06] European Chemicals Agency warned about their danger to
[00:10:10] our health, eternal pollutants causing cancer and reproductive
[00:10:28] problems. While 100,000 industrial sites in Europe release these epiphas, this
[00:10:45] report recommends a broad ban on these substances,
[00:10:48] but the health, tech, and energy industries fear a total
[00:10:52] ban and threaten to relocate for lack of credible alternatives.
[00:10:55] The European Commission favors a progressive restriction of
[00:10:59] epiphas, starting with everyday consumer products with a law
[00:11:02] expected by 2027. If nothing is done, at least the decontamination
[00:11:05] of eternal pollutants will cost European states up to 1700
[00:11:09] billion euros by 2050. So to discuss this today, we have
[00:11:13] with us two MEPs, Benoît Sard. Hello, you are Belgian,
[00:11:16] a member of the Renew group in the center of the hemicycle, a farmer
[00:11:19] by profession, and with you today Marie Toussaint. Hello.
[00:11:23] French Green MEP Marie Toussaint. Epiphas
[00:11:26] is one of the most serious public health problems of our
[00:11:30] century, yes, it is certainly the health bomb of our century.
[00:11:34] It has effects on health. We estimate around 16 million
[00:11:38] Europeans today are affected in their health because of
[00:11:41] these pollutants. Several tens
[00:11:45] So it's estimated of course premature deaths and pollutants
[00:11:48] that are eternal that we find everywhere up to the summit of
[00:11:52] the Himalayas because well it circulates through the...
[00:11:56] yes the clouds and it is notably due to the deployment
[00:11:58] of these extremely polluting microorganisms, epiphas,
[00:12:02] eternal pollutants that we have exceeded one of the planetary
[00:12:06] limits which is that of drinking water which is no longer
[00:12:09] drinkable in terms of rainwater anywhere around the planet so
[00:12:14] to well to get out of it simply and precisely with territories
[00:12:18] in Europe also that are contaminated by these eternal
[00:12:21] pollutants notably in France in certain villages
[00:12:24] of the Ardèche or... last it was discovered
[00:12:27] a high contamination of tap water and we are going to
[00:12:30] watch the reaction of the inhabitants at the time. People are worried,
[00:12:33] everyone says oh my God can I wash my vegetables, can I brush
[00:12:37] my teeth with water, what should I do? Apparently
[00:12:40] this pollution has been going on for many years,
[00:12:44] we are talking about twenty years.
[00:12:47] We realize from reading all the scientific studies
[00:12:51] health consequences are numerous. Especially over the years,
[00:12:55] as the intoxication accumulates, we are talking about miscarriages,
[00:12:58] malformations, and autoimmune diseases. Benoît Cassar,
[00:13:02] in this village in the Meuse, industrial sludge from the nearby
[00:13:05] factory was used in agriculture. As a farmer, you must have also
[00:13:08] heard a lot about similar contamination, notably in
[00:13:12] Belgium, indeed, in 2023 there was a
[00:13:16] contamination of the water consumed by the inhabitants
[00:13:19] which came from an industry in Flanders and the transmission
[00:13:22] of information took some
[00:13:25] time, there was a bit of
[00:13:28] of our leaders at the time and it dragged on and then
[00:13:32] after a few months it came out in the press and the inhabitants
[00:13:35] realized that they had for a certain period of time
[00:13:39] ingested water that was not compliant with the
[00:13:43] regulations, following this, measures were taken to decontaminate
[00:13:45] the water, notably with
[00:13:48] activated carbon and then charcoal, sorry, and then
[00:13:51] subsequently everything was regulated, everything was put
[00:13:55] back in place correctly,
[00:14:00] which we must find solutions, whether at European level
[00:14:03] or at national or regional level for monitoring.
[00:14:06] Marie Toussaint, this eternal pollutant contamination
[00:14:10] lasts for years and affects populations. The European
[00:14:13] Chemicals Agency report is alarmist, but perhaps a little
[00:14:17] late. Obviously, but I want to come back to
[00:14:20] one of the things Mr. Cassar said, because he says, everything
[00:14:23] is back to normal. I don't know what normal is,
[00:14:26] today normal is contamination by pollutants that we call
[00:14:29] eternal, there's a reason for that, it doesn't just last a few
[00:14:33] years, it's several centuries and in reality we don't even
[00:14:37] know with the treatment processes for water,
[00:14:40] we don't know how to completely eliminate them and PFAS are
[00:14:43] also in the food we eat, so it's not just tap water,
[00:14:47] but also what we eat, they are in everyday products and they
[00:14:51] are also in the soil which is much longer to decontaminate
[00:14:53] and we don't know yet how to do it, after you ask the
[00:14:57] question. Why are we reacting so late? What is happening?
[00:15:00] So first the European Agency for chemicals is reacting
[00:15:04] now because it was seized in 2023 by six
[00:15:07] European countries, five from the European Union plus Norway,
[00:15:11] but also Sweden, Germany, the Netherlands, Denmark, to say
[00:15:15] but wait, there's a major health and environmental
[00:15:19] problem, we should go towards a ban and so the European Agency
[00:15:23] took up the subject and answers us today, but
[00:15:26] we know that these eternal pollutants are toxic since
[00:15:29] the 50s, 60s. In any case, the industries that produce
[00:15:33] them, BASF, Bayer, the chemical giants have known for decades,
[00:15:37] but as on other subjects, as on asbestos, as on chlorodecone,
[00:15:41] as on so many other subjects, the studies have been hidden,
[00:15:45] they have been kept by the industries themselves who have instead
[00:15:48] produced other industrial studies in Europe incidentally who are
[00:15:52] concerned by this pollution and this enormous use of PFAS,
[00:15:56] it's enormous and we continue to see there on the study that
[00:16:00] was carried out the consultation by the European Chemicals
[00:16:03] Agency in 2023 several thousand documents from the chemical
[00:16:07] industries to claim that these products are not or are hardly
[00:16:11] harmful, we are facing a massive lobbying. So Benoît,
[00:16:14] since January the European Union has limited to
[00:16:17] 0.1 micrograms per liter the threshold of about twenty
[00:16:21] PFAS in water. MEPs have also voted for PFAS thresholds
[00:16:24] in food packaging and toys from 2030. Is the awareness
[00:16:28] sufficient and quick enough? Awareness is much older than
[00:16:32] that since as early as 2004, the Stockholm Conference,
[00:16:35] the Stockholm Convention established a list of the most toxic
[00:16:39] and most resistant pollutants and since that time,
[00:16:43] 2006, with the implementation of the REACH regulation, these
[00:16:47] products have been banned and gradually we are moving
[00:16:50] in the right direction since later we saw that in other
[00:16:54] specific sectors such as food or
[00:16:57] consumer water, the standards have tightened,
[00:17:01] but the trend is good, awareness is there, but we must
[00:17:05] not believe that it is simple and I do not like caricatures,
[00:17:09] I believe that in politics we must be nuanced and know
[00:17:13] that there are important consequences of the ban on PFAS, for
[00:17:16] example if we take areas
[00:17:17] such as renewable energy
[00:17:20] to which Ms. Toussaint is very sensitive, but in
[00:17:24] solar panels or in heat pumps which are
[00:17:28] very recent alternatives at a time when fossil
[00:17:31] energy will be scarce and become very expensive,
[00:17:34] there is a need to use PFAS, so there are always
[00:17:37] advantages and disadvantages, of course we must try to
[00:17:40] find alternative solutions to evolve, but it's not
[00:17:43] as simple as snapping your fingers, Marie Toussaint,
[00:17:47] a response, it would be too simple to ban all eternal
[00:17:51] pollutants tomorrow for our economy. So there are three
[00:17:54] types of PFAS, so it's a family of 10 to 12,000
[00:17:57] products. There are three types of PFAS: non-essential
[00:18:01] PFAS, I'll come back to that, substitutable PFAS, and
[00:18:04] essential PFAS. I want to take this opportunity to commend the
[00:18:07] remarkable work of an association called Notre Affaire à Tous,
[00:18:10] which is doing a very big report on the Lyon metropolitan
[00:18:14] area on these products, their uses. We can discuss
[00:18:17] it, of course, there is a political debate and
[00:18:23] again of the chemical lobbies, but what we consider is that
[00:18:27] all non-essential PFAS can be banned from consumption
[00:18:30] but also from production on these famous thousands of
[00:18:34] contaminated sites today in products must be banned
[00:18:37] as quickly as possible and in fact when we look at the
[00:18:40] only truly essential products for which PFAS
[00:18:44] are needed are products from medicine and be careful
[00:18:47] when I say essential that doesn't mean that in 5 or
[00:18:50] 10 years they will still be needed and
[00:18:54] so on. Very quickly on substitution
[00:18:57] products and here I ask a question and I also share
[00:19:01] with Mr. Today there are countries like China that are
[00:19:04] investing enormously to find substitution products, while
[00:19:08] European or American companies are rather closing ranks and
[00:19:11] spending more money to prevent their release than money on
[00:19:15] substitution products and therefore there is a risk of losing
[00:19:19] competitiveness. Total ban except, except indeed,
[00:19:22] pharmaceutical. I'm glad Ms. Toussaint brought up
[00:19:26] China because that's exactly what we're seeing today. This
[00:19:30] regulation I mentioned, which already exists here,
[00:19:34] also exists in the United States and Japan. It does not exist
[00:19:38] in countries with which we have trade agreements, such as
[00:19:41] India, China, or Brazil. So at some point, the challenge
[00:19:45] is to say, if we ban it here immediately,
[00:19:50] products where these standards do not exist, as we see today
[00:19:54] in Belgium, for example, 1 billion packages arrive from
[00:19:58] China each year. We no
[00:20:01] longer know how to deal with that. There is no control
[00:20:05] or almost no control over these products. I'm not a fan of
[00:20:08] comms, but it's really a good example because at some
[00:20:12] point, if we want to go too fast in too brutal a way
[00:20:15] here, we will destroy our economy, and we cannot do that either,
[00:20:18] because behind our economy there is also the health of
[00:20:22] consumers, there is also the possibility of evolving towards
[00:20:26] a better environment. So it's good to be a leader, it's
[00:20:29] very good to be a leader, but we must first make those who
[00:20:33] supply the market respect it, have the means to do
[00:20:36] so, find substitution products, and all this must be done
[00:20:40] coherently. If we lose that coherence, it's economic
[00:20:43] suicide. I admire the ideal of the Greens,
[00:20:47] but at some point a little economic realism is necessary
[00:20:51] too. That's why I was talking about competitiveness because
[00:20:54] realism is also seeing that, as with renewable energy
[00:20:58] and electric cars, China has taken the lead.
[00:21:02] So the question facing the European economy today is, do we want
[00:21:06] to be behind, clinging to technologies of the past,
[00:21:10] or move forward? But we agree with Mr. Cassar that
[00:21:13] we should not subject European workers or farmers
[00:21:17] to unfair competition. That's important. However,
[00:21:20] we disagree on the conclusion. What we say is that we must
[00:21:24] have high ambitions and ensure that others also have high
[00:21:28] ambitions. We don't say that because others do anything,
[00:21:32] like slavery and polluting products, that we should have
[00:21:35] the same economic model as others. I think, on the contrary,
[00:21:39] yes, but if we take the argument to the bottom of the slide,
[00:21:43] that's where we end up. So what we say, on the contrary,
[00:21:46] is let's make Europe a pioneer of ecological transition,
[00:21:50] of benevolence towards its citizens. Once again, it's
[00:21:54] about our health, and that way we will take the rest of
[00:21:58] the world with us. Benoît Sard,
[00:22:01] complicated.
[00:22:04] soumettre soumettre les travailleurs ou les agriculteurs agricultrices
[00:22:08] européennes à une concurrence déloyale, ça c'est important, par contre on n'est pas d'accord sur la
[00:22:11] conclusion, nous ce qu'on dit c'est il faut avoir des ambitions élevées et faire en
[00:22:15] sorte que les autres et eux aussi des ambitions élevées, on dit pas comme les autres font
[00:22:19] n'importe quoi. et de l'esclavage et des produits polluants et n'importe quoi
[00:22:22] alors il faut qu'on ait le même modèle économique que les autres je pense qu'au contraire au
[00:22:26] contraire oui mais c'est si on tire l'argument si on va en bas du du toboggan c'est
[00:22:29] là où arrive donc ce qu'on dit au contraire c'est faisons de l'Europe un
[00:22:33] pionnière de la transition écologique du de la bienveillance sur
[00:22:36] ses citoyennes et ses citoyens encore une fois c'est notre santé et comme ça on entraînera
[00:22:40] le reste du monde avec nous benossar la dépollution elle est compliquée techniquement très
[00:22:44] costly according to the report of the European chemical agency, it
[00:22:47] would amount to at least if we legislate. from now on
[00:22:51] 300 billion euros, that's still
[00:22:56] European Union, and if we fair to 1700 billion
[00:22:59] then where do we find the money? Do we have to tax polluters?
[00:23:03] But the problem is that we must do things in order, the
[00:23:07] first thing is to stop the source by finding
[00:23:11] other means of production by finding
[00:23:14] substitution methods and then gradually
[00:23:18] depollute but if... we do everything at the same time right away,
[00:23:22] who has the means, it's easier to say the polluter pays, I can share
[00:23:26] the philosophy, but today if we bombard
[00:23:29] companies, citizens with taxes at a time when purchasing
[00:23:33] power is complicated for citizens and companies
[00:23:36] are in increasingly complicated global competition
[00:23:40] with Chinese dumping with taxes in America we kill the system
[00:23:44] so we have to do things realistically Marie Toussaint, should
[00:23:47] we apply the polluter pays principle? That is, tax industrialists
[00:23:50] who do not respect the PFAS standards or should we let them
[00:23:54] invest in alternatives to these eternal pollutants? Well, I'm quite
[00:23:58] surprised by what Mr. Cassard says because we co-signed a written question together to
[00:24:01] precisely say that local authorities pay extremely dearly for the cost of
[00:24:05] depollution and that it was not necessarily up to them to do it so I am quite surprised but
[00:24:08] indeed two things, firstly it comes back to the previous question, charity
[00:24:12] begins at home and secondly there is
[00:24:15] a responsibility and responsibility must
[00:24:18] be applied. We cannot say all day long, you have to be
[00:24:22] responsible for your actions when talking about individuals and say but companies
[00:24:25] must not be responsible for their actions. There are industrialists who have had
[00:24:28] knowledge of the damages, the harmful effects of eternal
[00:24:32] pollutants since the 1960s, once again, this was demonstrated by Robert
[00:24:36] Bilot in a major trial held in the United States which is the subject of a film that
[00:24:39] popularized the subject of PFAS, Dark Waters in 2017, thanks to
[00:24:43] this trial, information was obtained, they have known for more than 50 years, and
[00:24:47] so at some point they are responsible for having continued to develop. the products, having
[00:24:50] developed them in proportion and also in number of products concerned,
[00:24:54] and at some point they must pay for what they have done for the
[00:24:58] technological choices they have made, I understand that it is difficult,
[00:25:02] that it will indeed raise economic questions, that it must
[00:25:05] be organized, but you know, I am
[00:25:10] the polluter pays principle. The reality is that we should not go through taxes, we should go
[00:25:14] before courts, but then the sums would be so colossal that it would indeed destroy
[00:25:17] the economy, so as politicians we must find a way to get out of it by
[00:25:21] preserving jobs and acting in the general
[00:25:24] interest. Moreover, Benoît Cassard, is the problem not also within
[00:25:28] this assembly? We can clearly see that there is an operation by the European
[00:25:32] People's Party in agreement with a more radical right to
[00:25:36] unravel all the environmental protection standards
[00:25:40] uh the Green Deal specifically for
[00:25:43] industrialists in the name of competitiveness. I believe that in the
[00:25:47] previous mandate in which I was not... took
[00:25:51] radically green options that proved to be
[00:25:54] inapplicable on the ground, a law that is not
[00:25:57] applicable is not good, ideals are very
[00:26:00] good, regulations. For achievements, it's very good, but if they are
[00:26:04] inapplicable, they don't succeed, they are useless in the end
[00:26:07] except to waste time, so today we must find a
[00:26:11] balance between the very noble objectives of the previous
[00:26:14] mandate, with a realistic implementation that
[00:26:18] takes into account environmental, economic and
[00:26:21] social aspects, what I find quite crazy with this type of argument, is that
[00:26:24] in fact the realism is that climate change is destroying
[00:26:28] the economy, he has one of the prices of young economists who showed that it was
[00:26:32] several. finally that it was hundreds of times the
[00:26:34] world's GDP finally that it cost a crazy amount of money,
[00:26:38] but realism would be to let it happen and to let climate change continue,
[00:26:42] the PEs said 2000 billion, 2000 billion is gigantic for
[00:26:46] the economic cost of pollution and we are told that
[00:26:49] realism would be to continue in the PFAS, excuse me, but whatever
[00:26:53] angles we take, the logic would be to respect planetary limits
[00:26:56] to return to respecting nature, that doesn't mean going back to the candle, it means trying to find a
[00:27:00] way to protect everyone. including economic actors, otherwise who will
[00:27:04] pay the cost of all the current disasters, we agree that we must find a
[00:27:07] way and we will end on these words,
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[00:30:12] current events, at the top, the death toll is rising in
[00:30:16] Ukraine, four dead in the massive bombings overnight on Kyiv
[00:30:20] and its region, Volodymyr Zelensky denounced the use
[00:30:23] of ballistic missiles against civilian
[00:30:26] infrastructure. Moscow claims the attacks but says it targeted a
[00:30:30] fuel depot and a weapons factory. These attacks
[00:30:34] come as the Ukrainian president makes his first visit to
[00:30:37] Serbia, an ally of
[00:30:39] Russia.
[00:30:41] There's trouble between Madrid and Rome, Spain
[00:30:45] announces it will implement border controls for travelers
[00:30:48] from Italy, identical retaliatory measures to
[00:30:52] those Rome had established following the Ceuta