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[00:00:11] are the main headlines of this Sunday. A
[00:00:14] disaster, the words of the German Chancellor to describe the
[00:00:17] result of his party in the state of Mecklenburg, Western
[00:00:21] Pomerania, the far-right party AFD comes out on top,
[00:00:24] credited with 37 to 38 % of the votes, 20 points more
[00:00:28] than in 2021, the SPD would be around 36%, the
[00:00:32] CDU is plummeting to
[00:00:35] where the former eastern districts barely more than 5 %. Another setback in Berlin where
[00:00:39] it is the radical left party Die Linke that wins, success
[00:00:42] also in Berlin for the AFD which will reach between 13 and 16
[00:00:46] % of the votes against 9 % in 2023. Chancellor
[00:00:49] Merz says he takes his responsibilities and promises to
[00:00:52] continue the reforms underway. We'll join our correspondent
[00:00:56] Caroline
[00:00:58] political and economic level in terms of Duble in Berlin and then we'll also talk about it with. from the heart of the news tonight,
[00:01:01] janettezus.
[00:01:05] 3rd and last day of the legislative elections in Russia, marked this
[00:01:09] Sunday by massive cyberattacks and a rain of Ukrainian
[00:01:12] drones. At least two people were killed, about twenty injured
[00:01:16] according to Russian authorities. Moscow warns that attacks on
[00:01:20] Kyiv will intensify in
[00:01:23] allowances, unemployment, retaliation. And then the 43rd edition of the
[00:01:26] European Heritage Days, some 11 million... councils participate
[00:01:30] each year, an opportunity to discover exceptional sites
[00:01:34] usually closed to the general public, and among the curiosities to see
[00:01:38] this year a replica of the Jambart warship of Louis XIV that
[00:01:41] enthusiasts have been building for more than 20 years in
[00:01:45] northern France.
[00:01:54] CDU uh and within
[00:01:59] 2 weeks after the... triumph of the AfD in Saxony, the
[00:02:02] results of Sunday's regional elections in Berlin and Mecklenburg
[00:02:06] Western Pomerania confirm the very strong rise of the far-right, it
[00:02:10] thus comes out on top in Mecklenburg with 37
[00:02:13] to 38% of the votes, 20 points more than in 2021, the SPD
[00:02:17] would be around 36%, the CDU is
[00:02:20] plummeting to barely more than 5 %. And another setback for
[00:02:24] the CDU, this time in Berlin where it is the radical left party Die Linke that
[00:02:27] wins and success there too for the AFD. which would reach between 13 and
[00:02:31] 16% of the votes, Chancellor Fredrik Schmerz
[00:02:35] speaks of disaster and says he takes his
[00:02:37] responsibility, he promises to continue his reforms, we
[00:02:41] will listen to the German
[00:02:42] Chancellor.
[00:02:46] We cannot sugarcoat the result obtained in Mecklenburg, it is a
[00:02:49] disaster.
[00:02:52] The CDU fought, but it ended up being crushed in
[00:02:56] the growing confrontation between the SPD and the AFD.
[00:03:01] Trust in our institutions is eroding, actively
[00:03:04] undermined by radical parties on the left and
[00:03:06] right. Our response to this situation must
[00:03:10] be to prepare the future of our country. To
[00:03:15] region, a southern region of achieve this, we need change.
[00:03:20] killed several people, including an employee of support of Germany for Change requires effort, but reforms must move forward.
[00:03:23] Indeed, we are in a difficult
[00:03:25] situation, but we
[00:03:28] %. hmm so we talked a lot about the take responsibility for these reforms. I personally take this
[00:03:32] responsibility because I want to see our country
[00:03:35] move forward, and we join our correspondent
[00:03:39] Caroline Duble in Berlin, good evening
[00:03:41] Caroline, the results therefore confirm what was
[00:03:45] expected, namely a very strong rise of the far-right,
[00:03:48] the AFD in these two regional
[00:03:50] elections.
[00:03:55] Mecklenburg and these areas of eastern Yes, absolutely and especially in Mecklenburg -Vorpommern where the socialist candidate
[00:03:59] seemed to have. her lead was credited with one more point in the polls
[00:04:02] these last few days, but that was not enough, it is indeed the AFD that once
[00:04:07] that also explains this success of again wins a region, well, it is the first
[00:04:09] party in a region, because this victory does not mean that they will
[00:04:13] be able to form a government due to the sanitary
[00:04:17] cordon that the other parties have pledged to respect, that is to say
[00:04:22] indicators of to refuse any coalition with the AFD, so there you go, but nevertheless, they are indeed
[00:04:26] 20 points higher than in the last elections, this
[00:04:29] is the... third time that they are the leading party in regional
[00:04:33] elections, three times in regions
[00:04:36] focused on the fight against of former East Germany and in Berlin too, they
[00:04:39] are up 4 points compared to the previous
[00:04:43] elections, behind neck and neck with the Greens
[00:04:47] still for 3rd place and behind Die Linke, the far-left,
[00:04:50] which wins this election in
[00:04:54] Berlin, the CDU with 20 points is
[00:04:57] also down, yes, and it is a real debacle therefore
[00:05:02] this success of the AFD which is definitely for the CDU, German Chancellor
[00:05:04] spokesperson for Eastern voters Fredrik Schmerz spoke immediately after the announcement of the
[00:05:07] results, the first partial results, exit polls, he said he took his share
[00:05:10] of responsibility in
[00:05:14] this debacle which he qualified as a disaster, nevertheless he
[00:05:17] did not announce, as some expected, his resignation, he
[00:05:21] undertakes on the other hand to continue, he says, his reforms, hm
[00:05:24] hm,
[00:05:28] absolutely, he called on Germans to be patient, to be
[00:05:32] firm, he wants to continue his
[00:05:35] course of reform, he says this is the answer
[00:05:39] against against the extremes, against this crisis of confidence also in... institutions
[00:05:42] and he seems especially with this speech seems
[00:05:46] to want to give
[00:05:48] to put an end to the rumors that
[00:05:52] circulated in Germany these last few days, there were already names of potential
[00:05:56] replacements circulating but no, he is really ready
[00:05:59] to take his responsibility, to continue the
[00:06:02] reforms, he therefore remains Chancellor and head of the
[00:06:06] CDU and calls on the
[00:06:09] Germans to confront the difficulties to come... that
[00:06:12] these reforms will bring with them but to
[00:06:16] keep the course, according to him, it is the only possible answer
[00:06:20] to the challenges of our time. thank you very much Caroline,
[00:06:23] from Berlin and we will talk about the outcome of
[00:06:27] this double regional election in Germany with the guest of "Au cœur de l'info" this
[00:06:30] evening, Janette Zous, member of the study committee on Franco-German
[00:06:34] relations at Ifri, the French institute of international relations,
[00:06:37] good evening, thank you very much for being with us this evening on France 24 to comment
[00:06:41] therefore on these results which are still partial, in any case
[00:06:45] a photograph of what seems to be emerging this
[00:06:49] evening in Germany, namely mainly this very strong
[00:06:52] push, right, of the far-right 2 weeks after
[00:06:55] this historic victory of the AFD in Sax Anhalt
[00:06:58] a particularly strong push therefore in
[00:07:02] Mecklenburg, another territory of former East Germany where
[00:07:05] there the AFD wins, mm-hmm. indeed, we
[00:07:09] expected a score in those areas. So finally no big
[00:07:13] surprises following the polls, but for the
[00:07:17] CDU, as you said recently, it's
[00:07:20] really a major setback, a disaster as the
[00:07:24] Chancellor Merkel says, and so we are really in the low range of the polls
[00:07:27] where the CDU is floundering around and that too is a
[00:07:30] peculiarity of the German political system around this minimum
[00:07:34] threshold that must be crossed in fact to be
[00:07:36] represented and they would be barely above if they
[00:07:40] are finally below wait.
[00:07:45] catastrophic, they would therefore be excluded from the regional parliament and that would be
[00:07:48] a first, yes, that would be completely a first,
[00:07:52] after that it's not exactly like in Saxony-Anhalt
[00:07:56] because there we saw the advantage of the incumbent, in fact, of this
[00:07:59] candidate who is therefore the former Minister-President
[00:08:03] of Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania, Manuela Schwesig
[00:08:07] who can still benefit from a fairly
[00:08:10] strong popularity rating. Which was much less the case in Saxony-Anhalt with the
[00:08:14] counter-candidate of Holger Zickmantel, but each state has its
[00:08:18] own specificities anyway, I don't know, we'll perhaps come back to Berlin, there
[00:08:21] again a very different clientele, so it's true that each state is
[00:08:25] different, but we still see a trend towards a clear rise of
[00:08:29] this party which is the Alternative for Germany with its own
[00:08:32] causes, in Mecklenburg, we will obviously come back to it,
[00:08:36] but go ahead on Berlin, a strong surge also there
[00:08:40] of the AFD which would be between 13 and 16% against 9
[00:08:44] % if I'm not mistaken in 2000 in
[00:08:47] 2023, there too it's uh it's not surprising,
[00:08:51] yes, well it's true that the progression there is a little bit more relative, a
[00:08:54] little bit lower because we are facing a more urban, more
[00:08:58] cosmopolitan environment perhaps, so far-right ideas
[00:09:01] perhaps take hold a little less even if it must also be said that this is the strategy
[00:09:05] also of the AFD, this double strategy of normalization, a certain
[00:09:08] tie strategy, the figurehead Christine Brinck was
[00:09:12] had much much less radical remarks and that is
[00:09:16] also reflected in the program that
[00:09:20] absolutely, he has different wings within the party,
[00:09:23] Sigmund himself in Saxony-Anhalt truly
[00:09:27] more radical even if he personally was even part of the CDU at
[00:09:30] the time, but he has in his entourage personalities who
[00:09:34] even passed for neo-Nazis, that also applies to the
[00:09:38] AFD candidate in
[00:09:40] Western Pomerania, Eric Holm. But that's not the case for Christine
[00:09:44] Brinker in Berlin, for example, so it varies depending on the state,
[00:09:48] but the AFD, it will be necessary to see depending on the
[00:09:51] constituencies, depending on the districts in Berlin, because we do not yet have the results
[00:09:54] according to the districts, the AFD will be around 50 or
[00:09:58] 40% in some districts, while in others
[00:10:01] it will almost be non-existent, so a high
[00:10:04] fragmentation also polarization of this
[00:10:08] vote within Berlin. We will therefore talk
[00:10:11] about the reasons for
[00:10:15] on the rise, but first we heard Chancellor Fredrik
[00:10:18] Schmerz say, well, speak of catastrophe, of disaster,
[00:10:22] say that he took his responsibilities, well, finally he did not resign. While
[00:10:25] many thought that after this speech and this crisis meeting
[00:10:29] at the CDU headquarters he would announce it in view
[00:10:33] of the results, he says on the other hand that he will
[00:10:36] continue his reforms, what did you find of
[00:10:40] this, yes, well first of all it must be remembered that it is completely
[00:10:43] unprecedented and not necessarily something unusual if a chancellor
[00:10:47] speaks after the results of regional elections
[00:10:50] because normally each state does its own thing and it's
[00:10:54] not ch'.
[00:10:57] uh in itself no, even if of course the Länder play a role within the
[00:11:00] Bundesrat which is the equivalent of the Senate, except that it has much more
[00:11:04] weight in Germany, so the second chamber that makes laws, so we
[00:11:08] can change something there, but it's not a total
[00:11:11] reversal of national policy right away, the
[00:11:15] government was elected until 2029, so the
[00:11:18] mandate has barely begun, his argument
[00:11:22] is that these structural reforms that...
[00:11:25] uh started well, it takes time and it was also
[00:11:28] corroborated by the vice chancellor, the finance minister Las
[00:11:32] Klingbeil, who himself comes from the SPD, so the
[00:11:36] social democrats, who seems to continue this
[00:11:39] rather liberal path, I would say, of making
[00:11:42] budget cuts but also cutting into the welfare state, into
[00:11:46] family
[00:11:48] and so on. This defeat of the CDU is a
[00:11:52] personal debacle, you said, for Schmerz or a
[00:11:55] broader crisis of the party, an ideological crisis,
[00:11:59] well, it's generally a structural problem that the CDU has
[00:12:03] which may have been exacerbated by the performance which is
[00:12:06] judged very mediocre probably by the electorate
[00:12:10] of Friedrich Merz, but the CDU itself faces a really
[00:12:13] structural problem, namely that it shifts to the right on
[00:12:17] the narrative level, so it partially adopts certain
[00:12:21] demands that the far-right had on immigration, that's a lot.
[00:12:25] It has become more right-wing and at the same time in practice it must always enter
[00:12:28] into a coalition with a partner who is rather from the
[00:12:31] left, so whether it is the SPD which is of course center-left or there
[00:12:35] it will be a question of entering into a coalition even with
[00:12:39] Die Linke possibly or with other parties of the more
[00:12:41] radical political spectrum or at least
[00:12:45] the Greens too, so it's getting less and less easy to form a
[00:12:49] stable government with only two parties where the CDU can really
[00:12:52] assert itself, so the electorate votes for something. for a rather right-wing electoral program
[00:12:56] but ends up with rather left-wing governments and that's it and that's what
[00:12:59] the AFD
[00:13:03] in fact criticizes the current government for when
[00:13:06] it lies in some way to the voters and that only with the AFD will
[00:13:10] there be a real right-wing program except that at the same time the AFD
[00:13:13] renounces any type of coalition, of making compromises
[00:13:17] but Fredrik Schmerz was still personally attacked
[00:13:20] 88% of Germans are dissatisfied according
[00:13:24] to the... polls, yes, it's unprecedented indeed,
[00:13:28] he has a way of presenting things a bit
[00:13:31] gloomy, let's say, so some, well,
[00:13:35] perhaps lack optimism in a time that is in any case not easy on the
[00:13:38] international level, of course, with the massive
[00:13:42] Ukraine, which is something that is more and more contested, which the AFD
[00:13:46] contests and notably in this region of former East Germany, we must also remember a
[00:13:50] more pacifist culture and a reluctance towards this support, but
[00:13:54] it also really has this economic aspect with therefore an
[00:13:57] image of Germany in full transformation on the industrial
[00:14:01] level of its industrial model on the economic level with a
[00:14:04] situation of decline uh and so the German model which is a bit
[00:14:08] questioned and the CDU which has always been considered the party for
[00:14:12] the economy for economic recovery but which is slow to
[00:14:15] come. You mentioned uh therefore
[00:14:20] Germany, former East Germany, uh you
[00:14:23] spoke of the problems. economic problems felt by the population
[00:14:27] there, it's a persistent feeling of decline
[00:14:32] the AFD, well I was talking about the economic situation in
[00:14:36] the whole country, so it's already a situation that's not, well, a bit in
[00:14:39] decline for the whole country, but it is true that when we look again
[00:14:43] at the figures, the macro-economic
[00:14:47] former East Germany compared to the western parts,
[00:14:51] things have improved a lot, for example unemployment, of course it was around
[00:14:55] 20% after the reunification, but there is still this
[00:14:58] feeling of decline, but it's not only an economic feeling, it's notably
[00:15:02] a feeling of not being sufficiently represented, of not being
[00:15:05] sufficiently heard, and it was notably, some even speak of
[00:15:09] contempt from West Germans, there is a
[00:15:13] somewhat anti-establishment trend and it is on that that the AFD manages to
[00:15:16] capitalize in particular while the party was rather founded in
[00:15:20] the West, which is interesting, but it has a bit, it
[00:15:23] acts a bit... it has become a party that is a kind of
[00:15:29] by also playing on nostalgia, so
[00:15:32] this nostalgic feeling of
[00:15:36] the good old days, saying that
[00:15:39] we are returning to the good old Germany where it was
[00:15:43] good to live and so it's really a bit of a topsy-turvy
[00:15:47] world but it manages to capitalize on this feeling indeed
[00:15:50] you would speak of a two-speed Germany still today
[00:15:53] 40 years after reunification we clearly see a clear gap
[00:15:57] politically, economically
[00:16:01] still apparently the fragmentation and
[00:16:04] polarization of the debate does not help to
[00:16:07] reconcile the people and we also see it in Berlin
[00:16:12] vote differently than the western part, so even within the same city
[00:16:16] where one might think that things have harmonized
[00:16:20] this is not the case, so it is also a task that the
[00:16:23] government now has to to maybe
[00:16:27] have a different communication strategy but also
[00:16:30] to have what can we deploy as a strategy also on the
[00:16:36] representation also. political of these people uh to
[00:16:40] change things, until now all parties have refused to
[00:16:44] govern with the far-right, with the AFD, so in
[00:16:47] Germany, if I'm not mistaken, we don't speak of a sanitary cordon but of a firewall,
[00:16:51] is that right? Can this wall
[00:16:54] fall, in your opinion, that's the whole question, for now it's not
[00:16:58] falling, it's out of the question, even on TV
[00:17:01] but it's especially for the CDU that the question arises,
[00:17:05] of course, because the AFD sees in the CDU the coalition
[00:17:09] partner, well, almost the only possible coalition partner
[00:17:11] uh the CDU has what is called a list
[00:17:15] of incompatibilities and it includes the AFD but also Die Linke, this
[00:17:19] more radical left-wing party and
[00:17:22] as long as it doesn't change that even on a legal level if you
[00:17:24] will, it cannot enter into a coalition but of course
[00:17:28] there are voices even within the
[00:17:31] the AFD notably of course for a
[00:17:34] coalition between the CDU and the FD, we are not
[00:17:38] yet at that stage, for that, the AFD would have to normalize
[00:17:41] itself further and really distance itself from remarks that were
[00:17:45] even made during this neo-fascist
[00:17:48] campaign, about the relativization of national
[00:17:52] socialism, uh would you say that Saxony-Anhalt in the end
[00:17:56] was a laboratory and is everything that happened therefore in
[00:17:59] Saxony-Anhalt but also today in Mecklenburg
[00:18:02] Western Pomerania a warning for the rest of the country
[00:18:06] absolutely. really the question whether the AFD will be able
[00:18:10] to govern because it is also a real test of credibility for the country, so if
[00:18:14] it ever fails it could also have a domino
[00:18:16] effect, in this case negative for other states, but if
[00:18:20] it manages to, it has already won the elections but to form a
[00:18:24] stable government, that could in
[00:18:26] turn have a positive domino effect, so
[00:18:30] everything remains to be seen, but it can
[00:18:33] also rely, if it fails to govern, on this
[00:18:36] victim positioning. So that's also a
[00:18:40] victimization strategy, anyway, the others don't want to govern
[00:18:43] with us, it's not our fault, so that makes the AFD
[00:18:47] rise even more in the future and once we are
[00:18:50] ready, we take over the government, so it's true that it's still a little early for the
[00:18:54] party and I think the party did not expect such a result, especially in
[00:18:57] Saxony-Anhalt where it really came very close
[00:19:00] to this symbolic bar of 5
[00:19:06] AFD and the CDU, and the other
[00:19:09] traditional party, the SPD,
[00:19:12] also losing momentum, absolutely,
[00:19:15] and that's a bit the irony of fate, so to speak, is that the
[00:19:19] SPD often finds itself in governments even though it was
[00:19:22] sanctioned during the elections, this is likely
[00:19:26] to be the case in Berlin where it's not clear
[00:19:29] it's first, it would probably be Die Linke who could therefore lead the
[00:19:33] government but it would therefore be among the
[00:19:36] coalition partners. And that would of course also be the case
[00:19:39] in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, so what I find a bit
[00:19:43] curious is that the victory, in a way,
[00:19:46] of Manuela Schwesig, the SPD in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern,
[00:19:50] presented itself as a victory even though the SPD has further decreased compared
[00:19:54] to its previous result, so just facing the
[00:19:57] AFD and not having a much
[00:20:00] lower result is considered a victory in
[00:20:04] itself, so the problem is that this debate hides a bit
[00:20:08] the real underlying debates and it is a campaign
[00:20:11] entirely
[00:20:14] the AFD, but we still talk relatively little about the real issues
[00:20:18] and what really occupies the electorate, perhaps a
[00:20:21] last question, do you think that the result of this
[00:20:25] double regional election therefore with national implications,
[00:20:28] as you well reminded, will perhaps modify somewhat Germany's
[00:20:32] position regarding this famous aid to
[00:20:35] Ukraine which is contested by a part
[00:20:38] of the German population and in this case by the AFD voters?
[00:20:42] I don't think so at this stage, but of course, it
[00:20:45] is necessary to find some answers and to better communicate
[00:20:49] why... this support is necessary, but
[00:20:52] I think it's really something extremely important for Germany
[00:20:56] to show solidarity with Ukraine and for
[00:20:59] now I don't see a questioning of this policy, but in the
[00:21:03] medium to long term, if the war continues, it could
[00:21:07] represent a growing challenge, after that it must be remembered that this
[00:21:10] electorate also of former East Germany in terms of population percentage
[00:21:13] is a minority of course, so it won't
[00:21:17] completely change the political balance but it remains a full
[00:21:20] challenge for the country, thank you very much Janette Zous,
[00:21:24] for answering our questions this evening therefore after this double
[00:21:28] regional election in Germany
[00:21:31] so I remind you in Berlin and in Mecklenburg
[00:21:34] Western Pomerania which therefore confirms the very strong
[00:21:38] rise of the far-right AFD which therefore comes out on
[00:21:41] top in Mecklenburg Western Pomerania credited with
[00:21:45] 37 to 38% of the votes, that's 20 points more than in
[00:21:48] 2021. And it's a real debacle, we can say
[00:21:52] for the CDU, Chancellor Matz speaks of
[00:21:56] catastrophe, he says he takes his responsibility and promises to
[00:21:59] continue his reforms. Thank you again Jannetz for
[00:22:03] answering our questions this evening, we
[00:22:06] now go to Russia, 3rd and last day of the
[00:22:10] legislative elections which were marked this Sunday by massive
[00:22:13] cyberattacks and a rain of Ukrainian drones, at least
[00:22:17] two people were killed and about twenty injured. This is according
[00:22:20] to Russian authorities, whatever the case, the election has no stakes,
[00:22:24] the presidential party United Russia is assured of its
[00:22:27] victory and moreover preliminary results are being
[00:22:31] released by the Russian electoral commission, with no surprise
[00:22:34] obviously, the United Russia party is leading with
[00:22:38] 57.54 % of the votes, knowing that there is
[00:22:42] no real credible opposition in the
[00:22:51] unprecedented Ukrainian offensive. The Russian capital and its region were the
[00:22:55] target of several hundred Ukrainian drones, if most were
[00:22:58] intercepted and shot down, several escaped Russian anti-aircraft
[00:23:01] defense and notably struck several floors of a residential
[00:23:05] building in the capital or this oil
[00:23:08] refinery. Other devices fell in this residential
[00:23:11] area of Sofino in the Moscow region, causing significant
[00:23:15] casualties and damage.
[00:23:16] building, I had walked about twenty steps from
[00:23:20] the entrance when the explosion
[00:23:24] occurred, the windows shattered, people started screaming, I turned
[00:23:27] around, the front doors had been blown open, there were
[00:23:31] injured people, probably even fatally, but we cannot be
[00:23:34] sure, emergency services arrived on the scene, they did not let us
[00:23:38] approach, this massive Ukrainian drone attack
[00:23:42] comes in a context of intensifying fighting on both
[00:23:45] sides, a series of Russian strikes on more than 30 sites in the Kyiv
[00:23:49] region caused several deaths, including children, on Saturday and
[00:23:52] Sunday. This offensive also comes on the 3rd
[00:23:55] and last day of voting in Russia and has been denounced by the Russian
[00:23:59] authorities as aiming to disrupt the smooth running of the
[00:24:02] election. In the Kherson
[00:24:05] Ukraine controlled by Russia, a drone notably
[00:24:10] the electoral commission. More than 4
[00:24:12] and a half years after the start of the full-scale invasion of Ukraine in
[00:24:15] 2022, these legislative elections aim to renew the
[00:24:19] Duma, the lower house of the Russian parliament, in a context of
[00:24:22] repression of all forms of opposition, they should
[00:24:25] unsurprisingly result in the victory of Vladimir Putin's
[00:24:29] party.
[00:24:31] 43rd edition of the European Heritage Days, some
[00:24:35] 11 million French people participate every year, an opportunity to
[00:24:38] discover exceptional sites usually closed to the general
[00:24:42] public, and among the curiosities to see this year a replica of the Jambart
[00:24:45] warship of Louis XIV that enthusiasts have been building for more than
[00:24:56] sea monster, it is an ancient ogre of the
[00:25:00] seas, the Jambard, a mythical ship. It
[00:25:03] has been almost 25 years since artisans have been striving to reproduce it
[00:25:07] and to highlight ancient techniques. The main interest of the site is
[00:25:11] to come and discover the construction of the ship with the old
[00:25:14] trades, so forging for example, naval carpentry which are the two trades that are most
[00:25:18] exploited today and to have children who come with schools, to have people who
[00:25:22] come to visit and this pedagogical transmission of old
[00:25:25] trades, in its construction engravings like these serve
[00:25:29] as an example and let us guess the scale of a boat and its
[00:25:32] gigantic hull of 57 m, dimensions
[00:25:35] that look like a challenge for these volunteers. The smallest piece weighs about
[00:25:39] 600 kg, these are the pieces above us there that are part of the
[00:25:42] skeleton, so today we have modern tools, it's true
[00:25:46] that we have big cranes, tractors, but you have to think about the time when... that by
[00:25:50] hand, a ship worthy of the king who
[00:25:54] sailed it, Louis XIV himself, in a few
[00:25:57] years it will be the largest navigable wooden sailing ship in the
[00:26:01] world, yet it... will never go to sea,
[00:26:04] a conscious choice to allow everyone the leisure to
[00:26:07] contemplate it.
[00:26:11] minutes, see you
[00:26:13] soon.
[00:26:18] soon.
[00:26:32] Leo XIV pontifical visit to France,
[00:26:36] live on France 24,
[00:28:19] said this is illegal, a judge said this is illegal and this is continuing on. Ice is very
[00:28:22] opaque about its intentions to remove people to
[00:28:25] third countries. I think that it's fair to say that
[00:28:29] everybody is running a little scared of the US.
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[00:30:05] It's 8:30 PM here in Paris, good evening everyone and welcome if you're joining us for the
[00:30:09] continuation of "Au Cœur de l'Info", here are the main headlines for this Sunday, a
[00:30:13] catastrophe, the words of the German Chancellor to describe the result
[00:30:16] of his party in the state of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern,
[00:30:19] the far-right party AfD comes out on top,
[00:30:23] credited with 37 to 38% of the votes, 20 points more than in
[00:30:26] 2021, the SPD would be around 36%, the
[00:30:30] CDU plummets. barely
[00:30:33] above 5% at this stage, another setback
[00:30:37] in Berlin, it's the radical left party Die Linke that
[00:30:40] wins, also a success for the AfD in Berlin which will reach between
[00:30:44] 13 and 16% of the votes against 9% in
[00:30:47] 2023. Chancellor Merz spoke immediately
[00:30:50] after these results, he said he took responsibility and promised
[00:30:54] to continue his reforms, more details in a moment
[00:30:57] from Caroline Duble in Berlin.