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[00:00:00] in France, live on France
[00:00:02] 24,
[00:00:07] it's 9:30 PM in Paris and it's time for the political
[00:00:10] essentials.
[00:00:15] Tonight's political essential is with Richard Verli, good evening, good evening,
[00:00:18] editorialist and journalist for the Swiss online media Blick. On
[00:00:22] the program of this issue, international news that impacts the daily lives of
[00:00:26] French people and the presidential campaign: Russia, war in the
[00:00:29] Middle East, and soaring fuel prices. Emmanuel Macron
[00:00:32] gathered the main candidates for his succession on Friday in a serious atmosphere. He
[00:00:36] will also be on television Thursday at 8 PM with our colleagues from TF1
[00:00:40] and France 2. Meanwhile, Prime Minister Sébastien Lecornu is
[00:00:44] facing the budget constraints for 2027, with 54 billion
[00:00:48] euros in efforts to plan for and rising anger. Is a new social
[00:00:51] and political crisis still avoidable? Finally, can the
[00:00:55] second round lineup for the presidential election still change? Polls still predict
[00:00:59] a duel between Marine Le Pen and Jean-Luc Mélenchon, while the left and center
[00:01:02] are still in a fierce battle to nominate a
[00:01:05] candidate.
[00:01:09] Emmanuel Macron therefore gathered the leaders of the main
[00:01:13] parties at the Elysée on Friday to discuss the international situation, including
[00:01:17] many candidates for his succession. The French president
[00:01:19] particularly insisted on the evolution of the Russian threat. He also reminded that the rise
[00:01:23] in energy and fuel prices was linked to the international context. Let's
[00:01:27] listen: "Drone intrusions
[00:01:30] into the airspace of several countries,
[00:01:34] with real depth in Russian action, show us
[00:01:37] that no state is safe. So, in the face of this,
[00:01:41] we act, we act through the mobilization we have
[00:01:44] decided, mobilization of our zone
[00:01:47] prefects, mobilization of
[00:01:50] the entire French system to better protect our
[00:01:53] most strategic facilities and our industrial and technological defense
[00:01:57] base, and a collective posture of... great
[00:02:00] vigilance. We are in a moment of
[00:02:02] vigilance."
[00:02:05] Richard, what did Emmanuel Macron seek to do by organizing this meeting
[00:02:08] with the main party leaders? Was it really to make them
[00:02:11] responsible, to prevent them from
[00:02:14] right, welcome to your Africa inflaming the debate themselves? Yes, there was a dimension of
[00:02:16] warning, a warning to political leaders. Let's
[00:02:20] the. note that neither Marine Le Pen nor Jean-Luc Mélenchon, the presumed
[00:02:24] finalists you just mentioned, were at this meeting. They were
[00:02:27] represented, but Emmanuel Macron wanted to warn political forces and
[00:02:31] candidates about the situation. He did so in a solemn
[00:02:35] and, I would say, extremely professional manner, as he was surrounded by the
[00:02:38] heads of intelligence services, security services, and the
[00:02:41] army. And if we are to believe the political leaders when they left,
[00:02:45] they were quite impressed by what they had been told. So,
[00:02:48] a warning to political forces and through political forces and his
[00:02:52] intervention before the podium, before the press, after
[00:02:55] a warning to the French people on the theme: "This is not a
[00:02:59] period... like any other, and we must deduce that this cannot be an
[00:03:03] electoral campaign like any other." It is clear that Emmanuel Macron
[00:03:06] is afraid, afraid that this electoral campaign will spiral out of control,
[00:03:10] especially since the two extremes are in a strong position in the polls. He
[00:03:13] fears promises that would be inconsiderate in terms of
[00:03:16] budget, in terms of security. And Emmanuel Macron does not forget, it must be said,
[00:03:20] that these two parties, the National Rally and La France
[00:03:23] Insoumise, are two parties that have long advocated, and even still advocate,
[00:03:27] appeasement with Russia, a Russia that... he
[00:03:30] explicitly named. He also attributed part of the responsibility, particularly for
[00:03:34] fuels, to Donald Trump and to Israel, given the war in Iran. Can
[00:03:37] we say that the message was well received, since we see that Marine Le Pen and Jordan Bardella, as we will see
[00:03:41] in their statement on the air, condemned Moscow's hostile
[00:03:45] acts the very next day? Does that mean that ultimately he managed to create a united front, at least on
[00:03:49] this issue? Probably this meeting had an
[00:03:52] effect, once again this warning. It was a clear
[00:03:55] way of saying and taking the French people
[00:03:59] as witnesses, by saying, "There are
[00:04:03] issues on which one cannot be partisan, on which one
[00:04:06] cannot be demagogic: it is the security of the country." So, after the
[00:04:10] question we can ask, certainly the National Rally today warns
[00:04:14] against Russia's hybrid actions, but the entire
[00:04:17] past of this party proves its
[00:04:20] desire for appeasement with Moscow, so this is in the party's DNA
[00:04:24] and it will not disappear during the campaign. This is what Emmanuel Macron
[00:04:27] will reiterate on Thursday on the set of France 2 and... when he will be
[00:04:30] interviewed at 8 PM, that the hour is serious. He will undoubtedly say that,
[00:04:34] he will say it with elements that he will have brought back from this week that he will
[00:04:38] spend in the United States, a crucial week, I remind you, because
[00:04:41] President Trump will meet Xi Jinping, will
[00:04:46] mainly extract meet the Chinese president. So, really, we see that geopolitics is at the
[00:04:50] heart of the electoral campaign, and then this
[00:04:53] geopolitics has a direct effect on the
[00:04:55] would say, I'm rather glad to finances of the French people through fuel. I also think that if he
[00:04:58] speaks, it's to... reassure, because at the moment we see anxieties emerging,
[00:05:02] first the anger, like fishermen, like other sectors,
[00:05:06] but also anxieties about winter, winter in Ukraine and also winter in France, because
[00:05:10] clearly here in the role of gas and oil will be needed. The international context
[00:05:13] indeed, and he has the potentially explosive national context. Prime
[00:05:17] Minister Sébastien Lecornu warned this week that he would ask for
[00:05:20] 54 billion euros in efforts to try to bring the deficit back to 5% of
[00:05:24] GDP next year. For that, several measures are being considered, and they are
[00:05:28] particularly unpopular: freezing retirement pensions, freezing civil
[00:05:32] servant salaries, increasing taxes. A day of demonstrations and strikes
[00:05:36] is planned in 9 days, on Tuesday, September
[00:05:39] 29th. Is Sébastien Lecornu taking the risk
[00:05:42] of setting the country on fire to save public
[00:05:45] accounts? Listen, if the country catches fire because
[00:05:49] of that, it's still worrying because public accounts are
[00:05:53] the future of France, it must be said. If you look back a little, you know,
[00:05:57] I'm a correspondent for a Swiss media, France's public finances
[00:06:00] cannot continue like this. It has become a
[00:06:03] precipice. At some point, we have to stop the bleeding. I say
[00:06:07] "bleeding" because these are terms we read in the international press,
[00:06:11] in the Financial Times, in the Wall Street Journal, and let's not forget that France
[00:06:14] continues to
[00:06:17] how should I say, we continue to lend to France but at rates
[00:06:20] of 4.5%, which are very high rates that will have to be
[00:06:24] paid. The debt burden is 70 billion euros per year,
[00:06:28] which is more than the savings Sébastien Lecornu is considering making. So,
[00:06:31] I think he's doing the job, we must admit, he's doing the job.
[00:06:35] Surprisingly, he's asking for 54 billion euros, while François Bayrou, who was
[00:06:39] fired by the deputies, who was overthrown, only asked for...
[00:06:42] 44 billion. We'll see what Sébastien Lecornu manages to
[00:06:46] save during the budget discussion. The rumor circulating,
[00:06:50] which you probably know, is that this budget will probably
[00:06:53] be adopted by ordinance. So, it will be the government's
[00:06:57] version that ultimately prevails. Why? Because there is no agreement between the political
[00:07:01] forces, and because in any case, once the new president is
[00:07:04] elected, he will have a rectifying finance law. So, in fact, it's a
[00:07:07] semi-budget. That's where we can still doubt Sébastien Lecornu's
[00:07:11] promises. These promises will only last until May 2,
[00:07:14] 2027, the date the new president takes office. Except that there's what will
[00:07:18] happen in parliament, and then there's what will happen in the streets. We already started
[00:07:22] seeing it yesterday in Marseille at the port of Marseille where the Yellow
[00:07:26] Vests were back. So there were only 200, but should we
[00:07:30] nevertheless expect an explosive
[00:07:33] social autumn? Listen, the situation is
[00:07:37] really nothing like that of the Yellow Vests in the winter of
[00:07:39] 2018-2019. The Yellow Vests, first of all,
[00:07:43] the French people were caught by surprise by this measure of
[00:07:46] 80 km/h plus the increase in diesel prices,
[00:07:50] and that was the responsibility of the French government, in this case the government
[00:07:54] of Édouard Philippe, on that subject. And that's undoubtedly what Emmanuel Macron will say
[00:07:57] on Thursday: it's not France's responsibility for fuel, it's the
[00:08:01] geopolitical situation and the fact that France, the French people,
[00:08:05] I think the French people are ready to hear, in any case they have heard it so far, they have still
[00:08:09] been moderate in their reaction. Of course, what...
[00:08:12] complicates things is that now it's no longer possible to write checks. Up until
[00:08:16] now, the government has written a lot of checks, but I would say,
[00:08:19] if there is a protest to be had, it must take place during the
[00:08:23] electoral campaign through voting. That's still the purpose of a presidential
[00:08:26] campaign. So I think will there be Yellow Vests
[00:08:30] this winter? We cannot rule it out, but the
[00:08:33] democratic game, at its core, is where protests must
[00:08:37] be inserted today, because in the midst of all that, there is indeed the race for
[00:08:40] 2027. Marine Le Pen and Mélenchon continue to advance in battle
[00:08:44] formation. On the left, it begins with an internal battle.
[00:08:48] Five candidates are engaged in the social-democratic primary: Olivier
[00:08:51] Faure, Jérôme Guedj, Emmanuel Morel, Raphaël Glucksmann, and Ségolène
[00:08:55] Royal. I would like us to pause for a moment on this
[00:08:58] candidacy, Ségolène Royal, who already participated in the second round of a
[00:09:02] presidential election, that was in 2007 against Nicolas Sarkozy. Is her
[00:09:06] candidacy going to be a bit of a
[00:09:09] wrench in the works? Is it going to prevent the...
[00:09:12] announced duel between Olivier Faure and Raphaël Glucksmann? Listen, for
[00:09:16] now, if we look at the polls, but these polls are difficult because the
[00:09:20] vote in the socialist primary will bring together activists in the broad
[00:09:23] sense. I think we're talking about roughly 100,000 voters, 100,000
[00:09:26] participants. And so it's difficult because there are, I would say,
[00:09:30] internal party matters specific to the Socialist Party. There is the memory of
[00:09:34] Ségolène Royal, who was a valiant candidate, it must be said, against
[00:09:38] Nicolas Sarkozy, and who at the time had been, she had been a candidate at
[00:09:41] the end of a primary which she had won. So I think
[00:09:44] what strikes me is that Ségolène Royal has a political
[00:09:48] record that speaks for her. She has a media image that is, we could say,
[00:09:51] controversial, but she is in a position to ask the
[00:09:55] two main candidates, that is, Olivier Faure and
[00:09:58] Raphaël Glucksmann, the right questions, because deep down she
[00:10:02] knows what a presidential campaign is, and so I
[00:10:08] have her in this primary because she will
[00:10:10] raise the level of the debate. In a way, and we'll see if
[00:10:14] one of the two candidates will have more difficulty in
[00:10:17] withstanding the attacks or in any case the onslaught of Ségolène Royal, who is
[00:10:23] the outsider, the big surprise.
[00:10:25] would be for her to qualify for the second round since it's a two-round primary. Ségolène
[00:10:29] Royal, when asked what the difference was between her and Raphaël
[00:10:32] Glucksmann, she answered "experience" in
[00:10:36] this interview with Libération. Thank you very much, Richard, for coming to the France
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[00:12:39] news. Headlining tonight, the families of the 37
[00:12:42] gold panners who died in detention in central Nigeria are demanding
[00:12:46] justice. The government has appointed an independent commission to conduct
[00:12:50] the investigation. We will also talk about the start of the
[00:12:54] school year in Ivory Coast and the heavy cost of
[00:12:57] schooling children. Report from our correspondents
[00:13:01] with parents who organize themselves and sometimes have to pay astronomical
[00:13:04] sums to buy school supplies, books, and other
[00:13:08] uniforms.
[00:13:11] And our focus this Sunday evening is on Morocco, 3 days before the
[00:13:15] legislative elections. Nearly 400 deputies to be elected,
[00:13:18] new rules to moralize political
[00:13:21] life, promote women and youth, but behind the ballot...
[00:13:25] an essential question: what confidence do Moroccans still place
[00:13:28] in their political representatives? Decryption with political
[00:13:32] scientist Nadia Hashimi
[00:13:34] Alaoui.
[00:13:38] We open this news report by going to central Nigeria, to Mina,
[00:13:41] where families are demanding explanations and justice
[00:13:45] after the death of 37 alleged illegal
[00:13:48] miners while they were detained by the country's
[00:13:51] civil defense corps. The government has, for its part, appointed an independent
[00:13:55] commission composed of 10 members to conduct the investigation. Nina
[00:13:59] Masson.
[00:14:01] In Mina, in central Nigeria, the streets have
[00:14:04] returned to calm after several days of violent
[00:14:07] demonstrations. Last Thursday, in this locality,
[00:14:11] 37 young men were found dead in detention. Their
[00:14:14] families are now demanding justice.
[00:14:18] The government is supposed to give us justice. If the government does not take
[00:14:21] decisive measures, we will continue the protest.
[00:14:25] The 37 alleged gold panners, suspected of illegal gold
[00:14:29] extraction, had been arrested by the Nigerian Civil Defense,
[00:14:33] a paramilitary group that supports the police in ensuring
[00:14:36] security and protecting sensitive
[00:14:38] infrastructure. Survivors report having been
[00:14:42] crammed into overcrowded and poorly
[00:14:44] ventilated cells. The Nigerian president has ordered a thorough
[00:14:48] investigation. We want the investigation to determine who gave the orders that led
[00:14:52] to these deaths. We have suffered a serious injustice.
[00:14:56] We have been denied justice. The governor has decreed 3 days of mourning and postponed the
[00:15:00] start of the electoral campaign. The state
[00:15:02] of Niger, which is twice the size of Belgium, is rich in mineral
[00:15:06] resources and attracts thousands of artisanal miners who
[00:15:11] gold.
[00:15:13] It's back to school in Ivory Coast, and with it, a sometimes heavy
[00:15:17] bill for families: books, supplies, uniforms. To
[00:15:20] send their children to school, parents have to pay sometimes several
[00:15:24] tens of thousands of CFA francs. So, everyone
[00:15:27] organizes as best they can. The report by Ma Camara, Damien Koffi and Caroline
[00:15:31] Dumai. Every school year, this single mother
[00:15:35] preferred to seize the opportunity. She would go to the... ground bookstores and
[00:15:39] pass her textbooks from one child to another. But with the
[00:15:42] change in editions, the old books no longer correspond to the
[00:15:45] new program, which forces her to buy new ones. "You
[00:15:49] have a little one who's going to 4th grade, another who's doing
[00:15:52] 3rd grade. The one who's going to 3rd grade, he has a 4th grade book that's
[00:15:56] there, you can't give it to the other one. You're forced to
[00:15:59] buy a new 4th grade book again. That the old ones are there that the child
[00:16:03] can use, we say we can't anymore. At that moment, it really tires us out."
[00:16:07] Some... parents find other solutions. HR manager
[00:16:10] during the day, Francis becomes a VTC driver in the
[00:16:13] evening and on weekends for a daily salary supplement of
[00:16:17] 25,000 CFA francs. "It's back to school to
[00:16:20] be able to send the children to school, the supplies, all
[00:16:23] that. That's why I got into VTCs to
[00:16:27] earn a second income. We can't rely on just one income,
[00:16:31] so with this one as a supplement, the children
[00:16:34] can go to school peacefully." When the expenses of...
[00:16:47] who turned to her town hall for her son, met the director of socio-cultural services to request support for my son
[00:16:50] who just got his BPC.
[00:16:53] The institution he was assigned to and the costs are
[00:16:57] really high for me as a student's parent. The town hall
[00:17:01] of Treichville indicates that it has implemented support mechanisms
[00:17:05] for certain families.
[00:17:07] "We have nearly 4,000 children who are assisted with school
[00:17:11] kits, we have nearly 5,000 children who are assisted, we
[00:17:14] try to help parents so that parents can be less stressed, so that the children
[00:17:18] themselves work towards excellence." Faced with criticism on social
[00:17:22] media, the state has promised the standardization of school
[00:17:25] books, but also a textbook exchange program with a
[00:17:28] pre-rental formula to relieve
[00:17:30] families.
[00:17:33] Let's move on to our focus this Sunday evening and look at the
[00:17:36] elections in Morocco. Moroccans are called to the polls this
[00:17:40] Wednesday, September 23, to renew the 395
[00:17:43] seats of the House of Representatives. An
[00:17:47] election organized with new rules, more control over
[00:17:50] candidacies, funding, but also measures in
[00:17:54] favor of women and youth. But beyond these reforms, there are the
[00:17:57] concerns of Moroccans: purchasing power, employment,
[00:18:01] education, health, and inequalities, and above all, one question: do voters
[00:18:04] still believe in the ability of political parties to change
[00:18:08] their daily lives? To discuss this, we welcome Nadia
[00:18:12] Hashimi Alaoui, professor of political science affiliated with
[00:18:15] the International University of Rabat. Thank you and
[00:18:18] welcome to the show! So, what is
[00:18:22] the issue for us, for the viewers, what is the main
[00:18:25] issue of these legislative elections in
[00:18:27] Morocco?
[00:18:29] Well, the issue, uh, it needs to be put in context. Often, when we talk about
[00:18:33] elections and, uh, we have in mind the big ones, the
[00:18:36] meaning. When the elections, uh, for example, in France
[00:18:40] twenty-four, in France, uh, in Morocco,
[00:18:43] the issue is not taking power. The political
[00:18:47] issue of these legislative elections, uh, is to be who will lead a
[00:18:51] head of government, a new government. The issue is to be able to
[00:18:54] participate in political decision-making, rather than taking
[00:18:57] power, participating in political decision-making, participating in the big
[00:19:01] arbitrations that will take place,
[00:19:04] uh, within the framework of a political project that...
[00:19:07] is often, is, let's say, already defined, which is not defined
[00:19:11] simply by the government and the parliament. So the issue is participation
[00:19:14] both in decision-making and in the
[00:19:18] redistribution of resources
[00:19:21] and the definition of public policies. So, in what
[00:19:25] you said, obviously there is the issue of participating,
[00:19:29] uh, and of this decision-making. There is also behind that the
[00:19:33] question of among the political parties,
[00:19:36] uh, some... cause, I would schematize, but in any case more fear than
[00:19:40] others in that, in that, in that. Can you
[00:19:44] explain exactly? Well, fear, I don't know, there has been
[00:19:47] uh, let's say that today you have a fairly fragmented partisan scene
[00:19:51] but which is organized
[00:19:54] around four major parties: the three parties of the current
[00:19:57] governmental coalition, and then we are seeing a
[00:20:01] resurgence, uh, at least
[00:20:04] in the discourse of the PJD, which was president,
[00:20:07] which is the Islamist party, but which has already been in power for 10
[00:20:11] years. And then you have the Moroccan left, which has been quite
[00:20:14] weakened, not the Socialist Party USFP
[00:20:18] and the small left-wing parties, but
[00:20:22] uh, so the parties don't cause fear, because what
[00:20:25] is playing out, in fact, is the first place
[00:20:29] at the end of the election with three major, three
[00:20:32] major parties that have already been in government, and as I was telling
[00:20:36] you, uh, Islamists that we had, who at the
[00:20:40] last legislative elections in the last
[00:20:43] legislative elections had been ousted
[00:20:45] by the ballot box, had suffered
[00:20:49] a... a significant defeat, and who
[00:20:52] today, or in any case, that's perhaps the question, but I wouldn't speak
[00:20:56] of fear, much more of, you know, elections in Morocco have become
[00:21:00] institutionalized, let's say, in the landscape, uh, it's no longer the
[00:21:03] issues themselves that cause fear, perhaps, it's the
[00:21:07] participation rate, but we can talk about that later. Do Moroccans,
[00:21:10] do Moroccans even still have confidence
[00:21:14] in political parties?
[00:21:17] Well, the crisis of confidence in political parties is
[00:21:20] old in Morocco, uh, it's, uh,
[00:21:24] since, let's say, the turn of the 2000s,
[00:21:27] the first major legislative elections we had in the new reign in
[00:21:31] 2002, the question was already being asked
[00:21:34] about uh, well, the crisis of
[00:21:37] confidence in political parties, political parties that were unable to renew themselves. 20 years later,
[00:21:41] it's the same thing, only worse,
[00:21:44] uh, it's not unique to Morocco, you see to what extent
[00:21:47] everywhere you mentioned in the news about... the distrust we have towards political
[00:21:51] parties, uh, but indeed
[00:21:55] there is a significant distrust towards
[00:21:58] a political class uh, which at the same
[00:22:02] time struggles to broaden its ranks, which struggles to open its
[00:22:05] partisan structures, but which
[00:22:08] also, not only struggles to renew itself,
[00:22:11] but to which, ultimately, we also leave very little
[00:22:14] room. I mentioned earlier about the
[00:22:17] significance of elections, which are about taking power. You know, the big
[00:22:21] political stakes, the big, the big
[00:22:25] public policies are almost already on
[00:22:28] track. So this distrust,
[00:22:32] added to the fact that the stakes uh and that the
[00:22:35] question about the
[00:22:38] significance or the real weight contributes to
[00:22:41] fostering a kind of disinterest and distrust. So these
[00:22:44] elections, can they really help, for example, to renew the political
[00:22:48] class? I am thinking of women. We saw that there were changes in the rules
[00:22:52] for allocation, women, young people. We remember that we are
[00:22:56] a few days away from the 1st anniversary of numerous demonstrations by Generation
[00:22:59] Z. Uh, what will remain
[00:23:02] of all this
[00:23:04] uh?
[00:23:06] Well, we often tend to say that after two
[00:23:10] weeks will have forgotten the elections in Morocco because what will be at stake is more or
[00:23:14] less the coalition that will come to power and what
[00:23:17] it will form Let's stay on
[00:23:21] you were talking about young people and women, on the question of women, there is a
[00:23:25] list of women, in Morocco, a bit like what
[00:23:28] was done in France to
[00:23:32] really open up politics,
[00:23:35] to open up politics to women, effectively forced the issue with the question of national lists, it
[00:23:39] will be a regional list where you have a list of
[00:23:43] women, so that is a way to
[00:23:46] indeed increase participation, especially in the
[00:23:50] parliament, that is a fairly classic mechanism, regarding
[00:23:54] young people, that is more complicated, and
[00:23:57] that is one of the central problems,
[00:24:00] that is, how can you, there is currently no
[00:24:04] political party that has managed to capture
[00:24:08] what we have seen throughout the year, that is, a
[00:24:11] demand for social demands expressed by
[00:24:15] Moroccan youth and which cannot be translated or expressed
[00:24:19] politically. and even less within political parties, and that
[00:24:22] is extremely problematic, and it is all the more an issue that we have
[00:24:26] seen frightening images of all these young people
[00:24:30] assaulting Spain, who left
[00:24:33] uh uh precisely for the enclave
[00:24:36] of Ceuta, is it precisely
[00:24:38] uh will anything remain of it, I use
[00:24:42] that term, but for political leaders to know
[00:24:46] how to address these
[00:24:49] young people and... what can be done to keep them ultimately on Moroccan soil?
[00:24:53] So two things, I would take you back on the
[00:24:56] terms, these frightening images, this
[00:24:59] assault, well, that's what has been said a lot.
[00:25:03] the terminology used. What we can say already is, I would say first of all, these dramatic
[00:25:06] images and which raise questions both
[00:25:10] about Morocco and also about
[00:25:13] international
[00:25:14] migration
[00:25:17] policies. So that's one thing, and I'm not saying it
[00:25:21] simply to highlight the semantic dimension,
[00:25:25] but also because these images
[00:25:29] uh we still don't have an answer
[00:25:32] to what they convey, I mean, we don't have explanations. It would be
[00:25:36] a bit reductive to say already "these
[00:25:40] young people" because there weren't only young people, as we saw in
[00:25:43] testimonies.
[00:25:45] Indeed, there were many young people, but that wasn't all.
[00:25:48] Uh the profiles we can see are extremely
[00:25:51] diversified and heterogeneous. You had people who had jobs, others who didn't,
[00:25:55] and without in any way
[00:25:58] minimizing it, on the contrary, it's rather a situation that raises questions and that
[00:26:02] not only raises questions but means that today it disarms us, we have no answer,
[00:26:06] it reflects a deep
[00:26:08] crisis which is not just an economic
[00:26:12] or a social crisis, which is a
[00:26:16] largely structural crisis, of the transformations that
[00:26:19] Moroccan political society is undergoing and of which we unfortunately
[00:26:22] have little knowledge, we are sorely
[00:26:26] lacking, but really sorely lacking
[00:26:29] in socio-economic studies on the
[00:26:32] transformation of Morocco, apart from a few snippets that we can
[00:26:36] get, but generally speaking, we
[00:26:39] are facing a deficit of knowledge
[00:26:43] about what is happening, the
[00:26:46] consequences of a society that
[00:26:49] is demographically transformed,
[00:26:52] a transformation that is economically, and even
[00:26:56] territorially, you have
[00:26:59] an accelerated normalization.
[00:27:03] Yeah, exactly, so just to tell you that it is indeed a
[00:27:06] silence, no one is talking about it in the campaign, but I think that this silence
[00:27:10] should also be seen in parallel with the fact of a
[00:27:13] kind of disoriented society, I
[00:27:16] will keep that word, absolutely. Thank you very much, Nadia Ashimi Halawi, this
[00:27:20] is the end of this Africa news broadcast. Thank you for staying with us as the news
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