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[00:00:00] but he immediately specified the term combat and he says: I [00:00:03] quote, the word as well as the image are now clear to us, the fight [00:00:07] to which we are invited is that of faith, and he says: it is not a fight [00:00:10] against others, it is not a fight that uses the weapons of violence, of [00:00:14] contempt, of oppression, our only weapon is that of love that gives [00:00:18] itself, it is absolutely radical, it is [00:00:22] absolutely, I would say [00:00:25] strange in a world that is saturated by power relations and by the [00:00:29] quest for... meaning, but this is [00:00:32] state visit, the Holy See refused indeed the meaning of the Gospel and the message that the [00:00:34] Pope wanted to address to young French people. [00:00:37] Thank you, Pierre Jova, [00:00:40] choosing the the the Constance, Colona Cesari, I turn to [00:00:43] arrested by immigration police. you, we are going to try to move forward [00:00:45] more than a few hours now, it is 9:30 in [00:00:50] visit of the head of Paris, the mass in Place de la Concorde, it is around [00:00:52] 3 PM, 6000 people expected, [00:00:56] even more, because the perimeter has been extended beyond the... [00:01:00] the Concorde for those who don't know Paris, to the Avenue de la Grande Armée, [00:01:03] the Champs-Élysées and so on, you were talking earlier [00:01:07] about meetings between Pope Leo XIV and the French, [00:01:10] Monsignor Aveline, who is the president of the Conference of Bishops, says that [00:01:14] Pope Leo XIV is interested in France, that there is in France a [00:01:17] desire for Leo XIV, is that a word that [00:01:21] you would take up for yourself [00:01:24] regarding his desire, yes, I think so, he said that he [00:01:28] wanted to see Notre Dame again. [00:01:31] center in the country. uh, which means he had seen it when he was young, [00:01:33] he also showed in this speech at the Élysée [00:01:37] how much French culture, the arts of [00:01:40] France, that's what I was saying earlier, Pierre Giovat, but it's [00:01:43] important and that's a place that France occupies [00:01:47] also in the imagination of all popes, we are a place of [00:01:51] culture, we are a place of excellence, he underlined it, he [00:01:54] used this word, he flattered President Macron [00:01:58] by talking to him about his, by reminding him of his beautiful speech at the Collège [00:02:02] des Bernardins where he had said in 2018: "I want to repair [00:02:06] the damaged link between the Church and [00:02:08] France." There you go, he flattered him a bit, stroked the President [00:02:12] in the right way, because he does have areas where he doesn't have [00:02:16] misunderstandings, and it's true that I think that [00:02:18] he's someone who first of all has [00:02:21] French roots and and his grandmother was [00:02:25] Jefferson was the Pastor's volunteer French, oh yes, but really uh his great-grandmother [00:02:28] too, uh... [00:02:30] leave. The community of on his father's side and on his mother's side, so he is very French and in [00:02:33] fact I read the article written by a [00:02:37] researcher from Argenton-sur-Creuse that I wanted [00:02:40] to send and present to the Nunciature so that she [00:02:44] could present her work to the [00:02:46] current events in the 27 countries of Pope herself, we know that his great guest confronted with the burning issues of family, his great-grandparents lived on Rue [00:02:49] Saint-Dominique in those neighborhoods through which he passed [00:02:52] yesterday in the 14th arrondissement, that they worked [00:02:58] this sect within in a sugar company Rubinton, well he is... connected to France by his paternal [00:03:02] and maternal side, he loves this country, a priori, he was [00:03:05] happy, that's true, Cardinal Avelline also [00:03:09] somewhat forced his hand to make him put France [00:03:12] on the agenda of his travels, his [00:03:15] fourth, well fifth trip [00:03:18] abroad instead of Peru, but Peru which he will visit [00:03:22] soon because that too is his other country, there you go, but no, [00:03:26] no, I think he's very happy to be here, in fact, I think we see him moved. [00:03:30] uh here, he even wiped away a tear [00:03:33] yesterday at the Stade de France, it was really obvious, his [00:03:37] eyes were shining, we saw him at ease, we see him [00:03:40] smiling, he spoke in French, and he spoke in [00:03:42] French, in Macron's way, Constance [00:03:45] César, you were talking about Emmanuel Macron who will not [00:03:49] be at the mass today, who will [00:03:52] not be at any mass anyway, do you think [00:03:56] his absence will have an impact? Listen? [00:04:00] So we don't quite understand why he went to attend Pope [00:04:04] Francis's mass at the Vélodrome [00:04:07] in 2023 in Marseille and [00:04:10] why he is not here in the name of the same [00:04:13] secularism which would forbid him, which [00:04:16] is a mistaken interpretation in my opinion, which he didn't do, which is not the [00:04:20] same as the one he made in 2023. [00:04:23] There you go, his place perhaps other [00:04:26] political leaders incidentally presidential candidates. [00:04:30] They will be there today in Place de la Concorde. So listen, [00:04:33] the Prime Minister will be there, uh Brigitte Macron will be there. [00:04:37] Gabriel [00:04:40] there you go, not the left apparently, no left-wing candidate will [00:04:43] be there but there you go, so on [00:04:47] the absence specifically of the president, there you go, who perhaps [00:04:51] hours a day with no way to wanted to show a his first match as coach of mood also, uh [00:04:54] since the Holy See refused certain [00:04:58] aspects of the trip and... certain appointments [00:05:01] midday, a complete tour of that the President would have liked to place on the agenda, [00:05:04] notably a dinner at the Élysée, notably something [00:05:08] more substantial at the time of the [00:05:11] arrival at the airport and then [00:05:14] an award ceremony, so there you go, is that what angered him? He would have [00:05:18] refused the Legion of Honor apparently, there you go, there you go, since he doesn't [00:05:21] want to be there to receive medals, which is not [00:05:25] exactly in the [00:05:27] DNA of popes to go and be decorated [00:05:31] by presidents, so because it is also, as we [00:05:35] recall, an apostolic visit, he said: I am [00:05:39] here as a pastor, there you go, there you go, absolutely, so it is not a [00:05:44] the protocol, behind the state [00:05:47] visit, there are gestures, particular acts, by [00:05:52] strict uh [00:05:55] I was going to say domain protocol of the apostolic [00:05:58] visit, here we have a [00:06:02] the Catholic Church to his local church, the Church [00:06:06] of France and to its faithful to revive faith [00:06:09] in a country, to verify that everything is... well, that [00:06:13] everyone is doing well in his church and incidentally, to [00:06:16] visit a country too, even if it's not a state visit. Pierre [00:06:20] Jehova, if you are still with us in duplex, what [00:06:24] can we expect today there at the Place de la [00:06:28] Concorde in your opinion? [00:06:31] It will be a great joy, a great popular moment, uh [00:06:34] it will be a mass, a mass of the people of God, I [00:06:38] think there is truly great joy among French Catholics. [00:06:42] since yesterday and I also believe a joy and a curiosity [00:06:46] that goes beyond Catholic circles, you were talking [00:06:49] about the Pope's desire to better understand France and the desire of some [00:06:53] French people to better understand the Pope, I think that in our [00:06:56] secularized society, paradoxically there is a [00:06:59] desire for God, there is a desire to know more about [00:07:03] spirituality, about the meaning of life, uh, on Monday the [00:07:07] Pope will be in Metz, I will be there myself, and in the diocese [00:07:10] of Metz, imagine that... in 2017 there were 27 [00:07:14] adult baptisms and in [00:07:17] 2026 this year there were 192, nearly [00:07:20] 200, it's a reflection of France where baptisms [00:07:24] have increased uh really exponentially, adult baptisms, [00:07:27] and so I think we should truly rejoice in this [00:07:31] curiosity, in this spiritual [00:07:34] hunger that runs through our people, and I believe that even if it's [00:07:37] entirely their choice not to come and attend this afternoon's mass, [00:07:41] I believe... that French politicians, especially those preparing [00:07:45] for the highest office, would do well [00:07:48] to take it into account and keep an eye on it, stay with us Pierre [00:07:51] Geovat, I'm going back to find Mélina Huette who [00:07:55] is near the Bakita house in the 18th [00:07:59] arrondissement of Paris, Mélina, the Pope is about [00:08:02] to leave, we are starting to hear his first [00:08:05] words, he has pleaded for living together in [00:08:09] dignity and peace, a message launched in the presence [00:08:13] of exiles whom he is meeting, the meeting will [00:08:16] end in not [00:08:19] long. [00:08:23] Yes, absolutely, you know it because you have the pool images, as they say [00:08:27] in the jargon, and he has finished his speech, we feel it on site [00:08:30] because the police motorcyclists have just restarted their [00:08:34] vehicles and are about to leave, you will see behind me everyone, [00:08:37] anyway, you see the journalists who are [00:08:40] ready to take pictures. Departure of this delegation. There [00:08:44] is indeed Mélina, the image of the Pope who is coming out of this Bagita house [00:08:47] and greeting the crowd not [00:08:49] far away. [00:08:54] Exactly, so in the neighborhood there are a lot of people who have [00:08:57] gathered, a lot of people have gathered in the [00:09:01] neighborhood, you can't see them because they are behind the police barriers that we were able [00:09:05] to pass through as journalists, but everyone wants to see the Pope [00:09:08] of course, here it is still the objective since it is a [00:09:12] historical visit, and in this neighborhood we are [00:09:15] not used to having this kind of visit, you see the motorcyclists leaving behind [00:09:19] me, that's it, as you said earlier, the [00:09:22] Pope has finished his speech, a speech that was very [00:09:26] short but very spiritual with references to saints, to [00:09:29] the Gospels, he mentioned Saint Bakita, named after [00:09:33] this house where he met staff members, [00:09:36] volunteers and exiles, Bakita [00:09:39] who, according to the Pope, invites us to see the... [00:09:42] invisible, it echoes the phrase painted on a wall of this [00:09:46] Bakita house right next to where I am standing, taken from the Gospel of [00:09:49] Matthew, I quote: "I was a stranger and you welcomed [00:09:53] me." So there you see the cars moving away [00:09:57] behind me, to come back a little to his words and his [00:10:00] speech, it's a passage he had already quoted last [00:10:04] June in the Canaries, I explained that a bit earlier when he [00:10:07] had come to pay tribute to migrants who lost [00:10:10] their lives notably in the Mediterranean trying [00:10:14] to cross, he had thrown flowers into the sea to pay [00:10:17] tribute to the people who lost their lives on the path of exile [00:10:21] in search of a future. Thank you very much [00:10:25] Melina Uet, we will find you later [00:10:28] for more information, images of this Saturday [00:10:32] morning, the Pope is leaving the Bakita house [00:10:36] and the day will continue with a [00:10:39] detour to the Catholic Institute of Paris before this famous [00:10:42] mass at Place de la Concorde and then later the [00:10:46] departure for Lourdes, Constance [00:10:49] Césarie Colona, among the statements that are starting to come in and [00:10:52] that we need to remember, [00:10:56] Leo XIV reportedly declared notably, [00:10:59] "The history of the Church and humanity is not written by those who give the impression [00:11:03] of winning by imposing themselves and occupying space, but by those [00:11:07] who make room who establish peace [00:11:11] processes following trust and encouraging [00:11:15] life," a statement from this Saturday morning. [00:11:17] So far no lack of coherence to [00:11:21] note, quite the contrary, no, but I think we won't catch the [00:11:25] Pope in the trap of getting the message [00:11:28] wrong and advocating for secularism or [00:11:32] laws uh that [00:11:34] would infringe on the conception of life that the Church [00:11:38] knows how to defend, but still he always uses [00:11:42] a bit of this same vocabulary, life, the slogan of the trip is "For the world [00:11:46] and life," so you see we are on the theme of life, of [00:11:49] the protection of life and of the most vulnerable, but I note [00:11:52] anyway that with this Pope, as perhaps already [00:11:56] with his predecessor, unlike, I would [00:11:59] say, John Paul II and Benedict XVI who continued in a [00:12:03] slightly more conservative vein and [00:12:05] less focused on the world, less focused on the social [00:12:09] doctrine of the Church and more on ultimately an internal [00:12:13] message to the Church, well this Pope, he does [00:12:16] not lecture, you see, even when he talks to young people, [00:12:20] he doesn't tell them how they should behave, you see a [00:12:23] vocabulary that has disappeared from the mouths, I think, of popes, [00:12:27] it's sexual morality, family morality, you remember [00:12:31] John Paul II who spoke, who condemned condoms, who [00:12:34] said sex is a best, is a wonderful gift from God but [00:12:38] reserved for marriage, phrases like that [00:12:42] that said what was the morality of the Church in [00:12:46] matters, particularly sexual, of private things, there he doesn't [00:12:50] have that at all in the mouths of these recent popes, the discourse has [00:12:53] changed and I find that [00:12:57] this man, we see him, he is a firm [00:13:00] Pope, but who doesn't get angry, who [00:13:03] doesn't make reproaches, complaints, and speaking [00:13:07] of firmness, Constant Césari Colona, we are going to close [00:13:11] this very extensive edition dedicated to this trip [00:13:14] to the Bakita house, speaking of firmness, the Pope's Lourdes [00:13:18] stage, we are thinking obviously of [00:13:23] the Catholic Church, towards which, we are talking about the priestly [00:13:26] fraternity of Saint Pius X, towards [00:13:29] which Leo XIV showed himself very, very [00:13:32] firm, even more than Francis before him, so how [00:13:36] is this stage in Lourdes shaping up? So Lourdes, it's [00:13:39] really not, well, it's again pastoral [00:13:43] work, the fragile people, the [00:13:46] sick people and also the victims of sexual abuse, he [00:13:50] is going to meet seven people who have been designated by [00:13:53] associations, uh... including people who are there [00:13:56] because they experienced abuses at Betarram who will [00:14:00] ask for the suppression of the congregation of the Fathers of Betarram, [00:14:04] so there you go, he has these people, we also hope that this [00:14:08] Pope will be firm also on his handling of [00:14:12] sexual scandals in the Church and that it will progress perhaps even faster, [00:14:15] but he will not speak, in my opinion, to the [00:14:18] traditionalists, I think he has settled, as you said, very clearly [00:14:22] the chapter, these people want to continue to ordain... [00:14:25] bishops, while in canon law, it is the Pope who ordains [00:14:29] bishops, that falls, I would say, [00:14:32] immediate excommunication, ipso facto, there you go, [00:14:34] so he didn't compromise, [00:14:38] he didn't try to win them back, anyway these people want to leave [00:14:41] the Church in a way, we're going to leave, Constance [00:14:45] Colonna, on these images I think we're getting from the Place de la Concorde [00:14:49] where this mass will take place later, thank you very much [00:14:52] for continuing to follow us, you will [00:14:56] remain for a good part of the day to continue to explain all this to us, to [00:15:00] enlighten us. France 24 [00:15:03] continues on France 24 and on France24.com in English, French, [00:16:03] I've been there about thirty times in the last 7 or 8 [00:16:06] months. and each time it is extremely [00:16:09] difficult [00:16:12] every Friday Diane, a pastor in San Antonio, [00:16:15] hits the road to visit families [00:16:37] All these roofs you see are part of the [00:16:39] complex, there's a guard right at [00:16:42] the entrance, [00:16:45] if agents think you're doing something suspicious or filming, I [00:16:49] will be immediately denied access to the [00:16:51] center. [00:16:54] We let Diane go through security [00:16:55] alone. [00:16:58] ICE systematically denies journalists access. Dilé [00:17:02] can accommodate up to 2400 people, making [00:17:05] it the largest family detention [00:17:08] From the inside, there are only these official [00:17:11] images, a virtual tour of [00:17:14] the facility, dormitories and classrooms. [00:17:18] classes. [00:17:20] Outside, we find Diane who was able to speak with three [00:17:24] families during 2 hours of [00:17:25] visit. [00:17:28] The first person I spoke to had been arrested 10 days earlier and [00:17:32] transferred here. She was completely [00:17:35] devastated. She told me she was considering giving up and [00:17:39] leaving. Her 9-year-old daughter was hardly [00:17:43] eating. She cried throughout the [00:17:45] visit. No child should be placed in [00:17:49] detention. This center has no reason to exist. It [00:17:53] only serves to make families suffer and traumatize children. [00:17:57] Since the beginning of Donald Trump's second term, more than 6200 [00:18:01] children have been placed in detention by [00:18:03] ICE. [00:18:07] operations across the country. new video shows what appears to be ice [00:18:11] agents arresting a man inside an Oregon home depot. one and [00:18:15] four ice arrest happened in Texas under the president's [00:18:18] immigration crackdown. life for one San Antonio family turned [00:18:22] upside down when a mother and two children [00:18:24] were [00:18:28] taken. It was Monday, April 27th, 7:30 in the [00:18:32] morning. As I was walking to the bus stop with the children, [00:18:36] that's when the agents from... [00:18:53] As I was leaving the apartment, I realized I didn't have the keys. I turned back. As I was returning, I saw that they were arresting my family. They approached with their vehicles, got out, surrounded us, and that's when they started asking if I [00:18:57] was named Josene. I told them no. They checked [00:19:00] everything, and they said, "Okay, you're not the one we're [00:19:03] looking for, but you've still committed a crime and you must come with us." [00:19:08] My children were crying, so I decided not to prolong things and not [00:19:12] make the situation even more tense. I said, "Okay, children, [00:19:15] we'll go with them, may God be with [00:19:17] us." [00:19:23] The policy of incarcerating migrants, this Venezuelan family experienced it [00:19:27] directly. To avoid being arrested, Victor took [00:19:31] refuge at home, his partner and his two children were first [00:19:35] taken by immigration police to these... [00:19:40] Once there, they constantly asked me to call my husband, so he [00:19:44] would come to the premises, so they wouldn't separate me from the children, because [00:19:48] they threatened to take them to a detention center for minors, those [00:19:52] hours at the ICE premises were very difficult [00:19:54] emotionally, because I didn't know what was going to [00:19:57] happen, to avoid being incarcerated himself, [00:20:01] Victor refused, after 12 hours, in the middle [00:20:04] of the night, his family was transferred to Diley. [00:20:08] It is a center adapted for young children, they have [00:20:12] some recreational activities to make the days pass faster, [00:20:14] but for us, the adults, the days were [00:20:17] very long, and since I didn't sleep [00:20:21] well, the nights were [00:20:22] endless. [00:20:25] There was a light on 24 [00:20:29] turn it off, there were rounds all night, so sleeping was [00:20:32] complicated and the food was very [00:20:35] bad. [00:20:37] With the help of their lawyer, the mobilization is organized around [00:20:40] Victor, because the family entered legally into the United States, the parents [00:20:44] have work permits, the children are in school, [00:20:48] so their arrest causes. [00:21:07] This situation really destroyed me, [00:21:10] it was very hard to see them take my family away, the children are [00:21:14] excellent students, they have values, an [00:21:17] education, to see them go through [00:21:20] such an ordeal without being able to do [00:21:23] anything, as a father, it [00:21:24] broke me, [00:21:30] destroyed me. You would think that they would target people with a criminal past first, [00:21:33] since that's the promise Donald Trump is campaigning on and the message hammered home by his [00:21:37] administration, but that's absolutely not what's happening, the children and families who are [00:21:41] sent to Dilley had built their lives in the United States, overnight [00:21:45] they are imprisoned as if they were criminals. [00:21:48] It's a trauma for them, for the parents, for everyone. Of [00:21:52] about 400,000 people detained by ICE in a year and a half, less than [00:21:56] 40% had a criminal record. [00:22:10] It's mass time for Pastor Diane, she founded this [00:22:14] congregation almost 4 years ago, with one goal, to offer [00:22:17] migrants a community and a church. [00:22:45] Church, about fifty with the [00:22:48] children, before there were many more of us. [00:22:50] About a quarter of the families in our community have seen one of their loved ones [00:22:53] arrested and then expelled. [00:22:57] Very often these families end up leaving the region. This [00:23:00] policy is destroying the very fabric of our [00:23:03] community. Dialine is Jefferson's [00:23:06] wife. Her husband was arrested by ICE last [00:23:10] November 6th during a routine traffic stop. [00:23:15] assistant. He was always the first to arrive and the last to [00:23:20] La Roca del Refugio is like my family, it's immense help [00:23:24] for me and for my daughters, without this community, I don't know what [00:23:28] my life would be today. [00:23:53] Jefferson is detained 2 hours away from San Antonio, despite the [00:23:56] risks, he agreed to testify openly, the [00:24:00] family from Venezuela entered the United States in 2024 [00:24:04] seeking asylum. [00:24:08] I had never been separated from my daughters, my daughters had never been [00:24:11] separated from their father for so long, they suffer a lot, just like me, I suffer [00:24:14] from being separated from them without knowing what they are going to do with us [00:24:17] here. [00:24:20] For 8 months, he has been living in this center called Don [00:24:22] Outo. To achieve their expulsion goals, authorities [00:24:26] push detainees to leave the territory in exchange for a sum [00:24:30] of money. [00:24:33] Right now, we are told that whoever signs receives 2600 [00:24:36] dollars. I don't want to accept their money. What I want [00:24:40] is to be given a chance in this country where I seek to build a future for my [00:24:43] daughters. So that they can study, without [00:24:45] leaving. [00:24:48] Asserting his rights, even if it means enduring [00:24:52] difficult living conditions, a room of a few square meters shared [00:24:55] with another detainee, care that is lacking. [00:24:58] défaut, [00:25:02] The people who died in detention centers, it's because they were not [00:25:06] treated quickly, sometimes we hear on the news that we have the [00:25:10] best medical care, but it's false, I saw with my own [00:25:13] eyes one day a 50-year-old man have a cardiac arrest and they took [00:25:17] about 20 minutes to arrive to get him out of his cell. [00:25:21] We all started screaming, making noise for them to come, and [00:25:24] it was only after a long time that they came to [00:25:26] get him. [00:25:32] According to Human Rights Watch, in a year and a half, at least 54 people [00:25:35] have died in ICE prisons, including about ten by suicide. The rate [00:25:39] the mortality rate has more than doubled compared to previous years. The [00:25:43] majority of detention centers are not directly managed by the Department of Homeland [00:25:47] Security, but subcontracted to companies. like Core [00:25:50] Civic, [00:25:53] this journalist wanted to obtain a copy of the contract that governs the Dîlet [00:25:57] center. In its response, the legal department [00:26:00] of Core Civic refused. but attached to the email, a [00:26:04] document by mistake. This is the contract between the [00:26:07] Department of Homeland Security and the city of Diley, which then served [00:26:10] as an intermediary for the contract concluded with Core Civic. In this [00:26:14] new version, the monthly amount increases from 12.6 to [00:26:17] 13.1 million dollars. This is the sum that [00:26:20] the company receives each month, simply to maintain the center in [00:26:24] capacity to accommodate up to 2400 people. The [00:26:27] contract provides for a fixed amount, regardless of the actual number of [00:26:30] detainees. In exchange. [00:26:32] Core Civic commits to providing a minimum of services, food, [00:26:36] education, health, but does the company fulfill its [00:26:39] obligations? Impossible to verify. One thing is certain, Core Civic's [00:26:42] revenues related to ICE have multiplied by [00:26:46] 2 in 1 year. [00:26:49] these companies have every interest in reducing their costs as much as possible since it is up to them to [00:26:52] finance the daily operation of these centers with this monthly [00:26:56] allowance. [00:26:59] so if Core Civic receives 13.1 million dollars. per month, but [00:27:03] it manages to operate the center by spending only 2 [00:27:06] million, all the rest is profit for [00:27:09] the company. The Trump administration plans [00:27:12] to further expand its network of ICE detention centers with [00:27:16] 45 billion dollars allocated by [00:27:18] 2029. [00:27:23] For families like Jefferson's and Dialine's, separation [00:27:27] makes daily life difficult to continue to [00:27:30] pay the rent and send a little... [00:27:39] I go out every day with fear in my stomach because my daughters stay at [00:27:42] home and I have to leave at 5 am. [00:27:46] About 15 days ago where I was, there was a raid with [00:27:50] about 15 ICE cars encircling the area, but [00:27:53] thank God they didn't enter, but they [00:27:57] took a lot of people and I was very scared because I told myself if they catch me [00:28:00] here, my daughters are alone at home. [00:28:06] It's hard for them when I leave, and since their [00:28:09] dad is no longer here, when I come home, they say: "Oh mom, you're here, we were scared, we [00:28:13] prayed, she also suffers [00:28:15] a lot." [00:28:21] Jefferson was finally released a few days after our [00:28:24] interview. The family still hopes to build a better [00:28:27] future on this land of immigration, which has become a land [00:28:31] of expulsion. [00:28:36] In Europe, he leads, he decides, facing Caroline [00:28:40] de Camaré, they answer all your questions, the Americans are [00:28:44] unpredictable, a [00:28:49] the Union and the concerns of citizens. He has only one [00:28:52] dictator, that's Mr. Putin. Here [00:28:56] is Europe, we are listening to you, presented by Caroline de Camaret, to [00:28:59] be seen on France 24. [00:30:07] This is Paris direct for you, we are together until 2 pm, welcome, [00:30:10] we obviously continue to follow this visit of Leo XIV in France, the [00:30:14] Pope has already visited a center dedicated to the reception and integration [00:30:18] of exiled people, it is located in the north of Paris, he called for living [00:30:22] together in dignity and peace, we find on site [00:30:25] Melina Huette. Meanwhile, the faithful are beginning to [00:30:29] flock to the Place de la Concorde and the Champs. The Pope [00:30:33] who will celebrate an XXL mass starting at [00:30:36] 3 pm, he will descend, he will descend, sorry, before going to the [00:30:39] Champs-Élysées, this is one of the highlights of this visit, as well as the meeting [00:30:43] with catechumens, it will be discussed in a moment with Constance Colona [00:30:47] Cesari. [00:30:50] Zinedine Zidane has reason to be satisfied with [00:30:53] the French team, a 1-0 victory against Turkey in the Nations League, but [00:30:57] this victory was overshadowed by a